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You are here: Home / Politics / America / Yesterday in Domestic Terrorism and Stochastic Violence: Exceedingly Pale Edition Part II

Yesterday in Domestic Terrorism and Stochastic Violence: Exceedingly Pale Edition Part II

by Adam L Silverman|  February 23, 20176:06 pm| 137 Comments

This post is in: America, Ammosexuals, Domestic Politics, domestic terrorists, Election 2016, Gun nuts, Open Threads, Politics, Post-racial America, Silverman on Security, Not Normal

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Last night Adam Purinton of Olathe, KS decided he needed to take his 1st and 2nd Amendment rights out for some exercise at the local sports bar. Purinton killed one patron of the bar and wounded two.

A man opened fire at a crowded Olathe bar, killing one man and wounding two others before he was arrested across state lines hours later, police said Thursday about an attack that some witnesses suggested had racial overtones.

Adam Purinton, 51, of Olathe, was arrested in Henry County, MO after the shooting Wednesday evening at Austins Bar and Grill in Olathe. He waived extradition from Henry County Thursday and was expected to be returned to Kansas, said Maj. Rob Hills of the Henry County Sheriff’s Office.

He has been charged with murder and attempted murder.

The Kansas City Star reports that Purinton provided his own explanation for his actions at the time of the attack:

At least one witness reportedly heard the suspect yell “get out of my country” shortly before shooting men he thought were Middle Eastern. Both men, engineers at Garmin, appear to be originally from India.

Like the fine, brave, upstanding citizen that he is, he fled across state lines to a near by Applebees where he asked the bartender “he needed a place to hide out” and that “he had killed two Middle Eastern men”.

The victims are Srinivas Kuchibhotla, Alok Madasani, and Ian Grillot. Kuchibotla died of a result of his injuries, while Madasani and Grillot were wounded. Grillot is reported to have stood up to the shooter in defense of Kuchibhotla and Madasani.

This is Purinton.

Which reminds us to post this obligatory page from the Preacher comic book:

 

 

 

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    February 23, 2017 at 6:10 pm

    Tragic.

    Expect more.

  2. 2.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 6:11 pm

    @Baud: I always do.

  3. 3.

    Woodrow/Asim

    February 23, 2017 at 6:12 pm

    As much as that scene was Ennis taking the damned easiest way out ever around race representation in his works (oohhhhh….PREACHER) — I confess it was a downright visceral thrill when I read it.

    And I wonder if he had a chat with ol’ David Brooks at the salad bar, while he was at Applebees…

  4. 4.

    debbie

    February 23, 2017 at 6:14 pm

    Just horrible. I await Trump’s pronouncement that his overwhelming election victory isn’t responsible for enabling diseased Americans like this clown.

    ETA: Good to know that the bartender then called the cops. I wouldn’t have been surprised if he hadn’t.

  5. 5.

    Boussinesque

    February 23, 2017 at 6:16 pm

    I just…
    I just can’t. I’ll never understand the level of hate that would drive someone to do something like this.
    Maybe I should be glad for that.

    What’re the chances this gets tagged appropriately as terrorism by the media? /bitter

  6. 6.

    mai naem mobile

    February 23, 2017 at 6:17 pm

    Dolt 45 has more blood on his hands. Pig. Asshole. Douchebag.

  7. 7.

    scav

    February 23, 2017 at 6:17 pm

    @debbie: If you hold out for sincerity, you could very well be the all-time world record holder for patient (and a strong contender for hopeful.)

  8. 8.

    MattF

    February 23, 2017 at 6:20 pm

    A few more like this, and the whole ‘we give too many visas to furriners’ issue will go away by itself.

  9. 9.

    zhena gogolia

    February 23, 2017 at 6:21 pm

    When are we going to deport all the white chinless racists so the rest of us can feel safe?

  10. 10.

    trollhattan

    February 23, 2017 at 6:21 pm

    Thank bog we have a president with the stones to utter the magic words, “Radical Islamic terrorism.” It’s really making a difference.

  11. 11.

    schrodingers_cat

    February 23, 2017 at 6:22 pm

    They hate us enough to kill us without reason but we are supposed to understand their motivation to vote for T. Fuck that shit.

  12. 12.

    Hunter Gathers

    February 23, 2017 at 6:23 pm

    His anxieties are clearly economic.

  13. 13.

    debbie

    February 23, 2017 at 6:24 pm

    What pisses me off about Adam’s first link is that the headline is: Witnesses say Olathe bar shooting may have racial overtones. May have?

  14. 14.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 6:24 pm

    @Boussinesque: Most likely it’ll get classified as a hate crime. There are hate crimes that are not terrorism, terrorism that is not hate crime, and there is stuff like this, Dylann Roof’s shooting at Mother Emmanuel Church and the pasty, pudgy kid last week that really are both. They are not just an expression of bias made real through violence, they convey an attempt to instill a form of politically driven fear through the application of violence that is intended to impact and influence not the immediate victims, but rather others like them. This latter group, made up of survivors and those from their group (ethnic or religious or linguistic or gendered or some combination) are really the targets. As are everyone else in society in an attempt to make everyone choose up sides. Finally, government at different levels is also a target. The violence is intended to force them to act and, through acting, communicate whether they side with the victims or the perpetrators.

  15. 15.

    Oatler.

    February 23, 2017 at 6:24 pm

    Bleeding Kansas. All the time.

  16. 16.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 23, 2017 at 6:25 pm

    @debbie: “both sides do it” etc.

    The stupidity of the Village has infected journamalism across the country.

  17. 17.

    Schlemazel

    February 23, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    I don’t suppose it will matter to the racist assholes but those do not sound like Muslim names. But they sure didn’t come from Europe so I guess he will get a pass.

  18. 18.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    @MattF: A few more like this, in states like Missouri and Kansas, which are Constitutional Carry states (no permit’s needed to carry), and potential victims will begin teaching potential attackers that the saying “G-d made man, Samuel Colt made man equal” doesn’t just apply to white people. And then we’ll really see what’s what.

  19. 19.

    les

    February 23, 2017 at 6:27 pm

    @MattF:

    A few more like this, and the whole ‘we give too many visas to furriners’ issue will go away by itself.

    Surely you jest. Zero murders by refugees since 2001; but they’re still too scary to be permitted into KS by the brave, patriotic ammosexuals running the state. Reality plays no part in conservative “politics.”

  20. 20.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 6:27 pm

    @trollhattan: And tough guy’s like this on his staff:
    http://www.newsweek.com/sebastian-gorka-white-house-terrorism-adviser-angry-call-559805

    You have to actually listen to the audio. Real tough guy we’re dealing with here.

  21. 21.

    ThresherK

    February 23, 2017 at 6:29 pm

    Is this close to Kansas City?

    More broadly, how much more of this is gonna happen before companies think twice about expanding or reloctaing to Freedylvania instead of less-dangerous coastal elite place?

  22. 22.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 23, 2017 at 6:29 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: This.Right.Here.

    Never forget that in 1967, Governor Shitty grade Z movie star signed into law the most restrictive firearms legislation of the 60’s, because the Black Panthers had been parading around with long guns, quite legally, in Sacramento.

  23. 23.

    Death Panel Truck

    February 23, 2017 at 6:29 pm

    This guy is only 51? I’m three years older than this asshole, and compared to him, I don’t look a day over 40.

  24. 24.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 6:30 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Actually they don’t hate you per se, they just aren’t smart enough to distinguish between different groups of non pale people. That’s hard. Takes work. Makes their heads hurt. So the good news is that if you’re attacked its likely not about you, it was about someone from the Middle East. Just a case of mistaken identity.
    (and I wish I could put the sarc tags on this, but I can’t)

  25. 25.

    Timurid

    February 23, 2017 at 6:31 pm

    Sounds like somebody’s got something to hide…

  26. 26.

    MattF

    February 23, 2017 at 6:31 pm

    @les: I mean that intelligent, ambitious, and competent immigrants will go elsewhere. It’s a big world.

  27. 27.

    TenguPhule

    February 23, 2017 at 6:32 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Five bucks says Komrade Sessions doesn’t treat this as a federal hate crime. This is what Dolt 45 wanted and the positive feedback will continue until more like this guy start emerging like the poisonous fungi they are.

  28. 28.

    les

    February 23, 2017 at 6:33 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I wish I believed that. These fuckers are still fighting the border wars from the 1860’s and you can guess what side they’re on. They’ve run out of abortion providers to kill, gotta do something.

  29. 29.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 6:33 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: That were unarmed, per California law at the time. I am aware. That’s part of what I think will get interesting. Not just the individual interactions between people, making assumptions about who may or may not be a threat or who might or might not be able to defend themselves, but just how deeply the 40 year long attempt to move American attitudes and beliefs on the 2nd Amendment have really gone. And just what the US government will and won’t do and just what the 2nd Amendment Absolutists will then do in response to government action.

  30. 30.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    February 23, 2017 at 6:34 pm

    @Boussinesque

    I just can’t. I’ll never understand the level of hate that would drive someone to do something like this.
    Maybe I should be glad for that.

    Considering that sunken eye, serious ill, but to much engery look, more like the level of meth he was on.

    Seriously, if had I meet that guy on the street were I live I would be thinking “druggie, watch out”

    Damn; drugs, guns, dumb and racism, what a hellish mix.

  31. 31.

    schrodingers_cat

    February 23, 2017 at 6:34 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: They hate me, because I am different.

  32. 32.

    TenguPhule

    February 23, 2017 at 6:35 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: And at that point the Cold CIvil War goes hot. Because Blahs and Browns will not be allowed by Donald to legally carry guns that might be used against his white followers.

  33. 33.

    tobie

    February 23, 2017 at 6:35 pm

    This is really upsetting. Did the shooter have a criminal history, a history of mental illness, violence, spousal abuse? How did he get his murderous gun?

  34. 34.

    les

    February 23, 2017 at 6:36 pm

    @ThresherK:

    Is this close to Kansas City?

    Essentially a KC burb. Employers are already avoiding Brownbackistan–they’re running out of excuses for the abject failure of tax breaks to create the economic miracle, and KS is close to the bottom of the country in job creation.

  35. 35.

    Tokyokie

    February 23, 2017 at 6:36 pm

    @ThresherK: Olathe is a suburb of KC. The higher-tone ‘burbs are on the Kansas side of the border.

  36. 36.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 6:37 pm

    @Timurid: Ongoing, open Counterintelligence investigations are not confirmed or denied. Nothing to knock back.

  37. 37.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 23, 2017 at 6:37 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Some folks put together a video of two different approaches to someone walking around with an AR-15 along a road in Oregon. One white, one black. You can guess how the LEO’s reacted.

  38. 38.

    Tokyokie

    February 23, 2017 at 6:39 pm

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: Look at his mouth. You can’t see his lips. Which means he’s missing a lot of teeth. Which indicates he’s a meth head. And that’s the first thing I noticed about the picture.

  39. 39.

    EBT

    February 23, 2017 at 6:40 pm

    @Baud: There is always more, and it is always worse.

  40. 40.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 6:40 pm

    @TenguPhule: Despite him driving ten minutes down the road, and as a result crossing state lines, this will be handled by the local prosecutor and police in Olathe, KS.

  41. 41.

    Cacti

    February 23, 2017 at 6:40 pm

    Yes Virginia, there really are white men out there who think Ajit the neurologist and Mohammed the software engineer are the reason they lost their coal mining job.

  42. 42.

    ThresherK

    February 23, 2017 at 6:41 pm

    @les:
    @Tokyokie:

    Thanx to each.

  43. 43.

    NotMax

    February 23, 2017 at 6:41 pm

    A (possibly) Syrian celebration to savor (video at linked page).

    Adam, you might find this article of some interest, military-wise.

  44. 44.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 6:42 pm

    @les: You don’t believe that African Americans of a variety of religions, Muslim Americans of a variety of ethnicities, white Americans of a variety of minority religions, Indian Americans of a variety of religions, Hispanic and LatinX Americans of a variety of religions, Pakistani Americans, Indonesian Americans, Filipino Americans, etc, etc, etc don’t own and carry guns for self defense? I’m pretty sure they do.

  45. 45.

    scottinnj

    February 23, 2017 at 6:42 pm

    Yes but the libtard elite may have been condescending to real American’s economic anxieties, so both sides, really.

  46. 46.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 6:43 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: They hate you because they are too stupid to understand difference. And we’ve got your back.

  47. 47.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 6:45 pm

    @tobie: I’m guessing, since he was at a sports bar, that booze was involved. Given the area the sports bar was in, I know of half a dozen lawful gun stores (LGS – has a Federal Firearms Licence/FFL and adheres to all applicable Federal and state laws).

  48. 48.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 6:45 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: I’ve seen it.

  49. 49.

    D58826

    February 23, 2017 at 6:46 pm

    Hmm from the photo a fine example of the Aryan race.

    On a slightly different topic – isn’t this one of the many things that got Nixon in trouble:

    FBI refused White House request to knock down recent Trump-Russia stories.

    

    FBI Director James Comey testifies during a hearing before House Oversight and Government Reform Committee on July 7, 2016.

    FBI Director James Comey testifies during a hearing before House Oversight and Government Reform Committee on July 7, 2016.

    Washington (CNN) — The FBI rejected a recent White House request to publicly knock down media reports about communications between Donald Trump’s associates and Russians known to US intelligence during the 2016 presidential campaign, multiple US officials briefed on the matter tell CNN.

    White House officials had sought the help of the bureau and other agencies investigating the Russia matter to say that the reports were wrong and that there had been no contacts, the officials said. The reports of the contacts were first published by The New York Times and CNN on February 14.

    The direct communications between the White House and the FBI were unusual because of decade-old restrictions on such contacts. Such a request from the White House is a violation of procedures that limit communications with the FBI on pending investigations.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/23/politics/fbi-refused-white-house-request-to-knock-down-recent-trump-russia-stories/index.html

  50. 50.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 6:46 pm

    @NotMax: Thanks. Will read later. I’ve been planning on doing a “what’s going on with Iraq/ISIS/Syria” post for weeks now and every time I think I’m going to write it, something else needs to be written about.

  51. 51.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 23, 2017 at 6:46 pm

    @Hunter Gathers: They always are.

  52. 52.

    Spanky

    February 23, 2017 at 6:46 pm

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

    Seriously, if had I meet that guy on the street were I live I would be thinking “druggie, watch out”

    Damn; drugs, guns, dumb and racism, what a hellish mix.

    Seconded, which answers @Death Panel Truck: ‘s question on his age.

    A meth body carrying a Confederate mind.

  53. 53.

    schrodingers_cat

    February 23, 2017 at 6:49 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: And I have yours. We have to stand together, for divided we fall.

  54. 54.

    Mnemosyne

    February 23, 2017 at 6:49 pm

    @Death Panel Truck:

    You probably smoke less meth than he does.

  55. 55.

    piratedan

    February 23, 2017 at 6:51 pm

    @tobie: reminds me of that quote from Gohmert last night about the no town hall meetings for him because he didn’t want to be “Gabby Gifforded”, and I can only imagine how he voted on Obama’s proposed additional gun restrictions for people who have mental health issues.

    Guns are all well and good when we “encourage” our constituents to take out their anger on those blacks and browns and uppity wimmens we keep warning them about but suddenly the tunes change when it’s actually their own bullshit that gets exposed and brought out for discussion.

    Patriots all…

  56. 56.

    Mnemosyne

    February 23, 2017 at 6:51 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Yep. Like the asshole who shot up the Sikh temple in Wisconsin, thinking it was a mosque. It’s not like it would have been better if it had been a mosque, but there’s something weirdly frustrating about a bias crime that happens because of a mistaken identity.

  57. 57.

    ruemara

    February 23, 2017 at 6:51 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: No offense, Adam, but it is really that simple.

  58. 58.

    AnotherBruce

    February 23, 2017 at 6:52 pm

    @debbie: I think that’s too skeptical. Most people want to live with their conscience. I can’t blame you, but the cynicism is despondingly sad.

  59. 59.

    trollhattan

    February 23, 2017 at 6:53 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Among the entire WH viper nest Gorka has managed to really snag my attention. His preening self-confidence and cancerous, distorted worldview may cause real damage if Bannon allows him direct access to Trump. Personally, I loathe his Andy Sullivan-WF Buckley accent, which is icing on the Turdkuchen.

    In the unintentional humor category, he told some interviewer (NPR or BBC) that nobody yet appreciates the “genius of Trump and Breitbart” and predicts a 50-year Republican rule. (Why not a thousand years, eh?)

  60. 60.

    lgerard

    February 23, 2017 at 6:53 pm

    I’m sessions would not see it as a hate crime since the guy hates middle easterners but he shot guys from India

  61. 61.

    danielx

    February 23, 2017 at 6:53 pm

    @Death Panel Truck:

    White trash asshole years are longer than normal years.

  62. 62.

    tobie

    February 23, 2017 at 6:57 pm

    @piratedan: There is no end to Republican self-pity and sense of victimhood. Yeah, sure, Gohmert fears for his life because liberals who support gun control will come to his town halls. What’s even more disturbing is that his constituents keep on voting for him! Hard to excuse this.

  63. 63.

    Mnemosyne

    February 23, 2017 at 6:58 pm

    @piratedan:

    Americans for Responsible Solutions (which is Giffords’ gun control PAC) posted a statement from her that her office held a town hall within a few days of her shooting. It was a very nice fuck you to Gohmert and other cowardly Republicans.

  64. 64.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 23, 2017 at 6:58 pm

    @lgerard: “The wogs begin at Calais”.

  65. 65.

    Kenneth Kohl

    February 23, 2017 at 7:00 pm

    @Death Panel Truck: My thoughts, too. I’m 15 yrs older than this fck and he looks like my uncle.

  66. 66.

    Brachiator

    February 23, 2017 at 7:01 pm

    Anything from Trump yet? Anything?

  67. 67.

    japa21

    February 23, 2017 at 7:01 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Yes, they hate you, not for who you are but because of what they think you are. And guess what, they also hate all of us that have your back and the backs of millions of others that are on their hate list. Just the modern day equivalent of hating both the n****rs and the n****er-lovers.

  68. 68.

    trollhattan

    February 23, 2017 at 7:02 pm

    @Kenneth Kohl:
    Honestly, he looks like any of several hundred homeless guys wandering downtown. Rode hard, put away wet (and murderous in this case).

  69. 69.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 7:03 pm

    @trollhattan: I’m going to state the following and then shut up about this topic:
    I am the guy that he claims to be.

    And that’s all I have to say about that.

  70. 70.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 23, 2017 at 7:06 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Yeah, I tossed it in there for the edification of all. Most of my comments that are directed at you are not really directed at you, but I include things for the general Juiceitariat. Because I know you’re versed in nearly all of this, but other commenters may have missed them, or may need context (particularly on military matters…things that Omnes, or John, or raven, or other vets would instantly grok may not be so grokable by other commenters).

  71. 71.

    raven

    February 23, 2017 at 7:08 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Help I’m a Grok!

  72. 72.

    Jeffro

    February 23, 2017 at 7:10 pm

    OT but I see that Maureen Dowd has decided to start following me on Twitter today ( I don’t follow her )… did I do something wrong to deserve this ?

  73. 73.

    ? Martin

    February 23, 2017 at 7:10 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Actually they don’t hate you per se, they just aren’t smart enough to distinguish between different groups of non pale people.

    I’m not so sure. I’m increasingly convinced that the GOP vision for the US is a venn diagram with one circle labeled ‘heterosexual white christian’. Anyone outside of that circle is either relegated to formal 2nd class citizen or removed from society. TVUUC wasn’t really any different from this event:

    During the interview Adkisson stated that he had targeted the church because of its liberal teachings and his belief that all liberals should be killed because they were ruining the country, and that he felt that the Democrats had tied his country’s hands in the war on terror and they had ruined every institution in America with the aid of major media outlets. Adkisson made statements that because he could not get to the leaders of the liberal movement that he would then target those that had voted them into office. Adkisson stated that he had held these beliefs for about the last ten years.

    This guy looks like the prototype Trump rally attendee.

  74. 74.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 23, 2017 at 7:10 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: The great thing is your writing communicates that. Just like Richard/David and health insurance. There’s a credibility to the writing style of both of you.

  75. 75.

    Jeffro

    February 23, 2017 at 7:11 pm

    Also Mrs. Jeffro is telling me that trump (or someone in the trump administration) just got busted trying to step on the Russia investigation already?

    Who had the under on that particular bet?

  76. 76.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 7:11 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Tracking.

  77. 77.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 7:12 pm

    @Jeffro: Maybe she’s out of gin and thinks you have some.

  78. 78.

    raven

    February 23, 2017 at 7:12 pm

    @Jeffro: “Busted” don’t mean what it used to.

  79. 79.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 23, 2017 at 7:13 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: If it were Peggy Noonan, I’d say fer sure!

  80. 80.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 7:13 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Is the email address you use here to comment legit? If not, shoot me an email at my contact info on the drop down please.

  81. 81.

    Patricia Kayden

    February 23, 2017 at 7:13 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Amen. That’s exactly what I was thinking. I assume this 51 year old (wow does he look old!!) White murderer was a part of the much vaunted working class that we’re all supposed to be worried about and reach out to. Yeah right. As if we could.

  82. 82.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 23, 2017 at 7:14 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Oh, it’s real. We’ve exchanged offline (as in not in the comments section) before.

  83. 83.

    Renie

    February 23, 2017 at 7:15 pm

    Adam, If so inclined, can you try to explain what type of gov’t Bannon is attempting to create based on his CPAC statements? It sounds like he wants to burn everything down and start over. I would hope that the GOP will have a problem with this and try to stop him.

    Thanks in advance for your always great comments.

  84. 84.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 7:15 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: And thanks for the kind words.

  85. 85.

    Patricia Kayden

    February 23, 2017 at 7:16 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Like that White racist who shot up a Sikh temple thinking they were Middle Eastern. This appears to happen too often.

  86. 86.

    bemused

    February 23, 2017 at 7:16 pm

    @Death Panel Truck:

    51? He looks at least 20 years older.

  87. 87.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 7:17 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Gotcha, couldn’t remember. I’ve got to go run an errand, but I’ll push something across later this evening.

  88. 88.

    ? Martin

    February 23, 2017 at 7:17 pm

    Just saw that Trump admin plans to crack down on recreational weed. I’d start stockpiling almonds and avacados, folks, by the time we’re done it’ll be a felony to own a Beach Boys album.

  89. 89.

    HeleninEire

    February 23, 2017 at 7:18 pm

    So I got into Dublin at 5am (midnight NY time). The flight was uneventful until the landing. High winds shook the plane mega. And then we had to wait 45 minutes for our bags. Aer Lingus blamed the high winds but huh? Were they afraid the bags would blow off the cart? So anyway I was in the apt by 6:15 and asleep by 7. And I slept for NINE hours. À record for me. When I woke up decided i needed a bit of detox from the NY fun. So I went to O’Shea’s . My local bar.

    Hey I never said this story made sense.

    Truly this is home. Thrilled to be back. COME VISIT!!

  90. 90.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 7:18 pm

    @Renie: Boize Moi…

    That may have to wait till tomorrow. Because I’m honestly I’m not sure I really understand it. I understand what he says – he’s speaking English. Or rather I’m not sure I understand the end state that he thinks he’s trying to achieve.

  91. 91.

    Patricia Kayden

    February 23, 2017 at 7:18 pm

    @Timurid: From your link:

    The direct communications between the White House and the FBI were unusual because of decade-old restrictions on such contacts. Such a request from the White House is a violation of procedures that limit communications with the FBI on pending investigations.

    So basically, the White House tried to get the FBI to lie? This is what we are dealing with, folks. A lying White House trying to force other agencies to cover its tracks. Sure makes me feel safe.

  92. 92.

    Mnemosyne

    February 23, 2017 at 7:20 pm

    @Jeffro:

    I bet that if you start posting a lot of praise of Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta-Jones, she’ll unfollow you.

  93. 93.

    hovercraft

    February 23, 2017 at 7:22 pm

    You know that this poor man was distraught because these men stole his job opportunity and made him economically anxious, if it wasn’t for these men coming in and undercutting him, he so would have gotten a job as an engineer.

  94. 94.

    ? Martin

    February 23, 2017 at 7:22 pm

    @Renie:

    It sounds like he wants to burn everything down and start over. I would hope that the GOP will have a problem with this and try to stop him.

    Yes; and very funny.

    My sense from other things I’ve read and seen so far is that the government they want is one where everything is run out of the WH. That’s what an authoritarian state does. All of these agencies are a threat to their vision – they have some measure of independent authority because while they’re part of the executive branch, they’re equally beholden to the laws that Congress has written and the courts. Trumps attacks on the courts support this vision, so yes, he wants to burn the agencies down and run a pure political operation out of the WH where all decisions are made. Look at the cabinet choices. Look at the who has been involved in the EOs.

  95. 95.

    Patricia Kayden

    February 23, 2017 at 7:26 pm

    @hovercraft: Isn’t it great to have someone to blame all of your problems on? And if they’re Brown/Black, that’s a bonus.

  96. 96.

    Jeffro

    February 23, 2017 at 7:27 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: @Mnemosyne:

    I truly cannot imagine how she latched on to me…unless she was going through the ‘follow’ list of a couple other folks at the NYT? Maybe she hates Brooksie as much as I do?? Ah well…

    In other news, this is creative: GOP congressman plans to go all “Love Actually” on unruly constituents. at his upcoming town hall. Good plan, my man, good plan! What could possible go wrong…I’m sure the protestors won’t bring cue cards of their own, right? (Probably funnier ones, too!)

  97. 97.

    bemused

    February 23, 2017 at 7:28 pm

    @? Martin:

    If only he would partake of the weed himself.

  98. 98.

    trollhattan

    February 23, 2017 at 7:34 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:
    And yet he’s the one steps away from the power center. Yeesh

  99. 99.

    TenguPhule

    February 23, 2017 at 7:37 pm

    The return of prisons for profit. What could possibly go wrong?

    Cleek’s Law is becoming one of the founding principles of reality itself.

  100. 100.

    debbie

    February 23, 2017 at 7:37 pm

    @AnotherBruce:

    How can you not be cynical when things like this are going on?

  101. 101.

    TenguPhule

    February 23, 2017 at 7:38 pm

    @? Martin: Beach Boys are already in violation of the Geneva Conventions against inhumane weapons.

  102. 102.

    TenguPhule

    February 23, 2017 at 7:41 pm

    @Renie: Feudalism. With himself as lord.

    What always irritates me about those people is that 99% of the time, in that system they would be on the bottom because a more physically fit facist would be holding all the power in that case. Tubbo facists would be slaves at best, the long pork at worst.

  103. 103.

    Smiling Mortician

    February 23, 2017 at 7:45 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Seconded. Adam is my go-to source for understanding anything related to military/intelligence.

  104. 104.

    Mnemosyne

    February 23, 2017 at 7:48 pm

    @Jeffro:

    Hey, at least he isn’t being a crybaby. I’ll be curious to see how his townhalls go.

  105. 105.

    PaulW

    February 23, 2017 at 7:50 pm

    The Indian government should charge him with terrorism and demand he be turned over to them for trial.

  106. 106.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 23, 2017 at 7:51 pm

    @? Martin: Here’s the thing…just like in the Star Wars prequels, Donald cannot be an absolute monarch. He cannot just abolish Congress, or the rest of the executive branch. Not just yet. He still needs the Congress and the bureaucracy to control things. He and his inner circle have no fucking idea how big a monster they’re trying to tame/cut down, and they have no idea how long it takes to get things done. Recall that it took Palpatine 20 years to get enough control of the beast so that he could abolish the Imperial Senate…the last vestige of the Old Republic, and bring about a new order of Moffs, Imperial Star Destroyers, and Death Stars. This is no Weimar Republic he’s trying to defang. It’s a 230 year old thing that has grown over those years to span a continent.

  107. 107.

    TenguPhule

    February 23, 2017 at 7:55 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Sadly, the rot has spread far enough that he just might have enough brownshirts in the halls of power to make the attempt. He doesn’t have a majority, but a minority concentrated in the right spots could do just as well.

  108. 108.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 23, 2017 at 7:55 pm

    @TenguPhule: ICE is the American Gestapo.

  109. 109.

    Gretchen

    February 23, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    We live in suburban Kansas City near Olathe. My daughter is bringing her Indian-American boyfriend home soon to meet the family. Now I’m nervous about that.
    Then I think of the many immigrants I work with who live in Olathe. It’s a pretty diverse and prosperous town.

  110. 110.

    Ruckus

    February 23, 2017 at 8:02 pm

    @danielx:
    Don’t know about longer, but they are more surreal and irrational. With a shitpot of dumb thrown in.

  111. 111.

    waysel

    February 23, 2017 at 8:04 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: If it helps, there were a lot of Bannon speaking videos on youtube recently, if they haven’t pulled them down.

  112. 112.

    Mike in NC

    February 23, 2017 at 8:10 pm

    Tea Party nuts in charge of the NC General Assembly are crafting a bill to do away with the requirement to obtain a concealed carry permit.

  113. 113.

    Ruckus

    February 23, 2017 at 8:12 pm

    @Death Panel Truck:
    Meth must be such a fun experience. Let’s total it up.
    1. Sharpens the mind. Well….. No, it’s more like dragging it along the road behind a truck. For six weeks.
    2. Free Dentistry. Well….. Not exactly the stellar results one might actually desire.
    3. Fountain of Youth. Well…. No need to worry about SS being around, you won’t make it that far and you’ll look like you did.
    4. Free Education. Well…. At least everyone else gets to learn how big of an ass you are, even when you are over in the corner gibbering like a – shit there isn’t any other animal stupid enough to try this shit.

  114. 114.

    lurker dean

    February 23, 2017 at 8:21 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: ice and the cbp. the cbp violated court orders but there seem to be no repercussions.

  115. 115.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 8:29 pm

    @trollhattan: That assumes the best place for someone like me is working in the White House. And the reality is that my deliverables on ISIL and the Levantine problem set are in the right hands where they can do the most good vis a vis the wannabe.

  116. 116.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 8:33 pm

    @Smiling Mortician: I am so sorry for contributing to any confusion you may have. ?

  117. 117.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 8:35 pm

    @waysel: I’ve seen a lot of them. To clarify: what I think, based on what he’s stated, he’s likely to accomplish is not necessarily what he thinks he’s trying to accomplish.

  118. 118.

    J R in WV

    February 23, 2017 at 9:13 pm

    @Death Panel Truck:

    I’m 66 and I look like a spring chicken compared to this damaged piece of crap. Meth, much?

    I keep saying I’m gonna resume carrying again, even though in WV most violence is in alleys behind bars at 3 am or between relatives. I do travel outside WV. Some of those places have this kind of violence…

  119. 119.

    J R in WV

    February 23, 2017 at 9:22 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    You smoke meth? I thought… well, I am ignorant about how you do meth. Totally.

  120. 120.

    momus

    February 23, 2017 at 9:32 pm

    This can’t be a terrorist attack because the perp is white. It can’t be a tourist attack because he is a local. It must be a false flag attack. That’s it, the non-whites attacked him by their mere presence.

  121. 121.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 23, 2017 at 9:40 pm

    @momus: They are both inferior to the white man, and infinitely more devious and clever than any white man can possibly imagine.

    Just like Obama.

  122. 122.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 9:41 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Just sent you a test message. Let me know if it made it across.

  123. 123.

    J R in WV

    February 23, 2017 at 9:42 pm

    @Mike in NC:

    They did that here in WV. But I was informed by a local state rep that they left the infrastructure for CCW permits intact, so I can keep my permit renewed in order to be able to carry legally in most other states. This is primarily important so as to be able to transport target guns from place to place to shoot at targets with friends who also shoot.

    Also to protect myself and others from nutcases like this yob. I really think more Democrats should take up recreational target practice, and get carry permits, and shoot often, and be armed against the fascists like Mr Yob, the shooter of people who weren’t even the people he hates.

  124. 124.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 9:43 pm

    @J R in WV: My understanding is that most of the Constitutional Carry states did the same thing. My guess is that the legislation is all done from a template. Most likely from NRA-ILA.

  125. 125.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 23, 2017 at 9:56 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: You’ve passed the midterm. Now it’s time for the final!

  126. 126.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 23, 2017 at 10:04 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Just got your context email. Thank you for it and the email to follow.

  127. 127.

    mapaghimagsik

    February 23, 2017 at 10:05 pm

    @? Martin: Can’t have legal businesses stepping in where organized crime is making a buck.

  128. 128.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 23, 2017 at 10:07 pm

    @J R in WV: I am a year older than that guy. My dad looks younger than he does.

  129. 129.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 23, 2017 at 10:11 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: My Dad died in 2003 and looks younger than that guy. Amazing what a good taxidermist can do!

  130. 130.

    Mike G

    February 23, 2017 at 11:42 pm

    This guy sure has a lot of economic anxiety. You can tell he would have been a brilliant aviation engineer if the Indian he killed hadn’t stolen his job.

  131. 131.

    Miss Bianca

    February 24, 2017 at 12:47 am

    I’m just so sad about it all right now. I mean, it’s not as if it’s any secret that Whiter Wingerdom is toxic. But to see it enabled, abetted, encouraged and emboldened by the fact that the Shitgibbon and his disgusting myrmidons have taken over is just so nauseating it literally makes me sick to my stomach. Make the White House White Again, yee-haw!

    Ugh. Cannot.stand.my.tribe.

  132. 132.

    Miss Bianca

    February 24, 2017 at 12:51 am

    @Adam L Silverman: My God, how have you managed to make me laugh right now?! Hell, my dad was cremated 18 years ago and his *urn* is in better shape than this guy!

  133. 133.

    Gretchen

    February 24, 2017 at 2:41 am

    Kansas City again. Our shooters are not only awful but stupid. This guy shot a couple of Indians because he thought they were from the Middle East and members of a completely different religion than they actually practiced. The guy who shot up the Jewish Community Center a couple of years ago didn’t realize that there really aren’t that many Jews in Kansas City, and none of the people he shot were actually Jewish. There was one woman working at the nursing home, and a grandfather and grandson going to a singing competition for the grandson. Because many members of the community used the community center. What do you do with someone so ignorant that they hate people they know nothing about, and confuse those people they know nothing about, with other people they also know nothing about, who are completely separate from the first group?How can we wall off these haters into their own special place where they can’t hurt other people who are just minding their own business, going for a beer after work?

  134. 134.

    liberal

    February 24, 2017 at 4:58 am

    @NotMax: nah. They’re much better off under ISIS than Assad.

  135. 135.

    leeleeFL

    February 24, 2017 at 9:22 am

    @Miss Bianca: Yes, this. I have spent soooooooo many years ashamed of my whiteness. Our tribe is, sadly, so willing to destroy others to survive that, surely, we must burn out. I am not sure how much longer it will be. But it feels closer all the time lately.

  136. 136.

    Miss Bianca

    February 24, 2017 at 10:37 am

    @leeleeFL: y’know…sometimes, I just think, “the sooner the better”. WhiteNuss Sucks.

  137. 137.

    leeleeFL

    February 24, 2017 at 11:28 am

    @Miss Bianca: I know what you mean. Nice to meet a fellow race-traitor. I was raised to admire diversity, to embrace differences. I have not ever fit in. I used to feel left out. Now I feel proud of my squareness in a round hole world!

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