Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Conservatism: there are some people the law protects but does not bind and others who the law binds but does not protect.

You can’t attract Republican voters. You can only out organize them.

Second rate reporter says what?

I’ve spoken to my cat about this, but it doesn’t seem to do any good.

Schmidt just says fuck it, opens a tea shop.

This blog will pay for itself.

Let’s finish the job.

Jesus, Mary, & Joseph how is that election even close?

if you can’t see it, then you are useless in the fight to stop it.

This fight is for everything.

Republicans do not pay their debts.

Historically it was a little unusual for the president to be an incoherent babbling moron.

No offense, but this thread hasn’t been about you for quite a while.

fuckem (in honor of the late great efgoldman)

Putin dreamed of ending NATO, and now it’s Finnish-ed.

Republicans don’t trust women.

Not so fun when the rabbit gets the gun, is it?

An unpunished coup is a training exercise.

I’m pretty sure there’s only one Jack Smith.

A sufficient plurality of insane, greedy people can tank any democratic system ever devised, apparently.

If you tweet it in all caps, that makes it true!

It’s the corruption, stupid.

When do the post office & the dmv weigh in on the wuhan virus?

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

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Yesterday in Domestic Terrorism and Stochastic Violence: Exceedingly Pale Edition Part II

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Last night Adam Purinton of Olathe, KS decided he needed to take his 1st and 2nd Amendment rights out for some exercise at the local sports bar. Purinton killed one patron of the bar and wounded two.

A man opened fire at a crowded Olathe bar, killing one man and wounding two others before he was arrested across state lines hours later, police said Thursday about an attack that some witnesses suggested had racial overtones.

Adam Purinton, 51, of Olathe, was arrested in Henry County, MO after the shooting Wednesday evening at Austins Bar and Grill in Olathe. He waived extradition from Henry County Thursday and was expected to be returned to Kansas, said Maj. Rob Hills of the Henry County Sheriff’s Office.

He has been charged with murder and attempted murder.

The Kansas City Star reports that Purinton provided his own explanation for his actions at the time of the attack:

At least one witness reportedly heard the suspect yell “get out of my country” shortly before shooting men he thought were Middle Eastern. Both men, engineers at Garmin, appear to be originally from India.

Like the fine, brave, upstanding citizen that he is, he fled across state lines to a near by Applebees where he asked the bartender “he needed a place to hide out” and that “he had killed two Middle Eastern men”.

The victims are Srinivas Kuchibhotla, Alok Madasani, and Ian Grillot. Kuchibotla died of a result of his injuries, while Madasani and Grillot were wounded. Grillot is reported to have stood up to the shooter in defense of Kuchibhotla and Madasani.

This is Purinton.

Which reminds us to post this obligatory page from the Preacher comic book:

 

 

 

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  3. 3.

    Woodrow/Asim

    As much as that scene was Ennis taking the damned easiest way out ever around race representation in his works (oohhhhh….PREACHER) — I confess it was a downright visceral thrill when I read it.

    And I wonder if he had a chat with ol’ David Brooks at the salad bar, while he was at Applebees…

  4. 4.

    debbie

    Just horrible. I await Trump’s pronouncement that his overwhelming election victory isn’t responsible for enabling diseased Americans like this clown.

    ETA: Good to know that the bartender then called the cops. I wouldn’t have been surprised if he hadn’t.

  5. 5.

    Boussinesque

    I just…
    I just can’t. I’ll never understand the level of hate that would drive someone to do something like this.
    Maybe I should be glad for that.

    What’re the chances this gets tagged appropriately as terrorism by the media? /bitter

  7. 7.

    scav

    @debbie: If you hold out for sincerity, you could very well be the all-time world record holder for patient (and a strong contender for hopeful.)

  8. 8.

    MattF

    A few more like this, and the whole ‘we give too many visas to furriners’ issue will go away by itself.

  10. 10.

    trollhattan

    Thank bog we have a president with the stones to utter the magic words, “Radical Islamic terrorism.” It’s really making a difference.

  13. 13.

    debbie

    What pisses me off about Adam’s first link is that the headline is: Witnesses say Olathe bar shooting may have racial overtones. May have?

  14. 14.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Boussinesque: Most likely it’ll get classified as a hate crime. There are hate crimes that are not terrorism, terrorism that is not hate crime, and there is stuff like this, Dylann Roof’s shooting at Mother Emmanuel Church and the pasty, pudgy kid last week that really are both. They are not just an expression of bias made real through violence, they convey an attempt to instill a form of politically driven fear through the application of violence that is intended to impact and influence not the immediate victims, but rather others like them. This latter group, made up of survivors and those from their group (ethnic or religious or linguistic or gendered or some combination) are really the targets. As are everyone else in society in an attempt to make everyone choose up sides. Finally, government at different levels is also a target. The violence is intended to force them to act and, through acting, communicate whether they side with the victims or the perpetrators.

  17. 17.

    Schlemazel

    I don’t suppose it will matter to the racist assholes but those do not sound like Muslim names. But they sure didn’t come from Europe so I guess he will get a pass.

  18. 18.

    Adam L Silverman

    @MattF: A few more like this, in states like Missouri and Kansas, which are Constitutional Carry states (no permit’s needed to carry), and potential victims will begin teaching potential attackers that the saying “G-d made man, Samuel Colt made man equal” doesn’t just apply to white people. And then we’ll really see what’s what.

  19. 19.

    les

    @MattF:

    A few more like this, and the whole ‘we give too many visas to furriners’ issue will go away by itself.

    Surely you jest. Zero murders by refugees since 2001; but they’re still too scary to be permitted into KS by the brave, patriotic ammosexuals running the state. Reality plays no part in conservative “politics.”

  21. 21.

    ThresherK

    Is this close to Kansas City?

    More broadly, how much more of this is gonna happen before companies think twice about expanding or reloctaing to Freedylvania instead of less-dangerous coastal elite place?

  22. 22.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Adam L Silverman: This.Right.Here.

    Never forget that in 1967, Governor Shitty grade Z movie star signed into law the most restrictive firearms legislation of the 60’s, because the Black Panthers had been parading around with long guns, quite legally, in Sacramento.

  23. 23.

    Death Panel Truck

    This guy is only 51? I’m three years older than this asshole, and compared to him, I don’t look a day over 40.

  24. 24.

    Adam L Silverman

    @schrodingers_cat: Actually they don’t hate you per se, they just aren’t smart enough to distinguish between different groups of non pale people. That’s hard. Takes work. Makes their heads hurt. So the good news is that if you’re attacked its likely not about you, it was about someone from the Middle East. Just a case of mistaken identity.
    (and I wish I could put the sarc tags on this, but I can’t)

  27. 27.

    TenguPhule

    @Adam L Silverman: Five bucks says Komrade Sessions doesn’t treat this as a federal hate crime. This is what Dolt 45 wanted and the positive feedback will continue until more like this guy start emerging like the poisonous fungi they are.

  28. 28.

    les

    @Adam L Silverman: I wish I believed that. These fuckers are still fighting the border wars from the 1860’s and you can guess what side they’re on. They’ve run out of abortion providers to kill, gotta do something.

  29. 29.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Villago Delenda Est: That were unarmed, per California law at the time. I am aware. That’s part of what I think will get interesting. Not just the individual interactions between people, making assumptions about who may or may not be a threat or who might or might not be able to defend themselves, but just how deeply the 40 year long attempt to move American attitudes and beliefs on the 2nd Amendment have really gone. And just what the US government will and won’t do and just what the 2nd Amendment Absolutists will then do in response to government action.

  30. 30.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @Boussinesque

    I just can’t. I’ll never understand the level of hate that would drive someone to do something like this.
    Maybe I should be glad for that.

    Considering that sunken eye, serious ill, but to much engery look, more like the level of meth he was on.

    Seriously, if had I meet that guy on the street were I live I would be thinking “druggie, watch out”

    Damn; drugs, guns, dumb and racism, what a hellish mix.

  32. 32.

    TenguPhule

    @Adam L Silverman: And at that point the Cold CIvil War goes hot. Because Blahs and Browns will not be allowed by Donald to legally carry guns that might be used against his white followers.

  33. 33.

    tobie

    This is really upsetting. Did the shooter have a criminal history, a history of mental illness, violence, spousal abuse? How did he get his murderous gun?

  34. 34.

    les

    @ThresherK:

    Is this close to Kansas City?

    Essentially a KC burb. Employers are already avoiding Brownbackistan–they’re running out of excuses for the abject failure of tax breaks to create the economic miracle, and KS is close to the bottom of the country in job creation.

  40. 40.

    Adam L Silverman

    @TenguPhule: Despite him driving ten minutes down the road, and as a result crossing state lines, this will be handled by the local prosecutor and police in Olathe, KS.

  41. 41.

    Cacti

    Yes Virginia, there really are white men out there who think Ajit the neurologist and Mohammed the software engineer are the reason they lost their coal mining job.

  44. 44.

    Adam L Silverman

    @les: You don’t believe that African Americans of a variety of religions, Muslim Americans of a variety of ethnicities, white Americans of a variety of minority religions, Indian Americans of a variety of religions, Hispanic and LatinX Americans of a variety of religions, Pakistani Americans, Indonesian Americans, Filipino Americans, etc, etc, etc don’t own and carry guns for self defense? I’m pretty sure they do.

  45. 45.

    scottinnj

    Yes but the libtard elite may have been condescending to real American’s economic anxieties, so both sides, really.

  47. 47.

    Adam L Silverman

    @tobie: I’m guessing, since he was at a sports bar, that booze was involved. Given the area the sports bar was in, I know of half a dozen lawful gun stores (LGS – has a Federal Firearms Licence/FFL and adheres to all applicable Federal and state laws).

  49. 49.

    D58826

    Hmm from the photo a fine example of the Aryan race.

    On a slightly different topic – isn’t this one of the many things that got Nixon in trouble:

    FBI refused White House request to knock down recent Trump-Russia stories.

    FBI Director James Comey testifies during a hearing before House Oversight and Government Reform Committee on July 7, 2016.

    FBI Director James Comey testifies during a hearing before House Oversight and Government Reform Committee on July 7, 2016.

    Washington (CNN) — The FBI rejected a recent White House request to publicly knock down media reports about communications between Donald Trump’s associates and Russians known to US intelligence during the 2016 presidential campaign, multiple US officials briefed on the matter tell CNN.

    White House officials had sought the help of the bureau and other agencies investigating the Russia matter to say that the reports were wrong and that there had been no contacts, the officials said. The reports of the contacts were first published by The New York Times and CNN on February 14.

    The direct communications between the White House and the FBI were unusual because of decade-old restrictions on such contacts. Such a request from the White House is a violation of procedures that limit communications with the FBI on pending investigations.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/23/politics/fbi-refused-white-house-request-to-knock-down-recent-trump-russia-stories/index.html

  50. 50.

    Adam L Silverman

    @NotMax: Thanks. Will read later. I’ve been planning on doing a “what’s going on with Iraq/ISIS/Syria” post for weeks now and every time I think I’m going to write it, something else needs to be written about.

  55. 55.

    piratedan

    @tobie: reminds me of that quote from Gohmert last night about the no town hall meetings for him because he didn’t want to be “Gabby Gifforded”, and I can only imagine how he voted on Obama’s proposed additional gun restrictions for people who have mental health issues.

    Guns are all well and good when we “encourage” our constituents to take out their anger on those blacks and browns and uppity wimmens we keep warning them about but suddenly the tunes change when it’s actually their own bullshit that gets exposed and brought out for discussion.

    Patriots all…

  56. 56.

    Mnemosyne

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Yep. Like the asshole who shot up the Sikh temple in Wisconsin, thinking it was a mosque. It’s not like it would have been better if it had been a mosque, but there’s something weirdly frustrating about a bias crime that happens because of a mistaken identity.

  58. 58.

    AnotherBruce

    @debbie: I think that’s too skeptical. Most people want to live with their conscience. I can’t blame you, but the cynicism is despondingly sad.

  59. 59.

    trollhattan

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Among the entire WH viper nest Gorka has managed to really snag my attention. His preening self-confidence and cancerous, distorted worldview may cause real damage if Bannon allows him direct access to Trump. Personally, I loathe his Andy Sullivan-WF Buckley accent, which is icing on the Turdkuchen.

    In the unintentional humor category, he told some interviewer (NPR or BBC) that nobody yet appreciates the “genius of Trump and Breitbart” and predicts a 50-year Republican rule. (Why not a thousand years, eh?)

  60. 60.

    lgerard

    I’m sessions would not see it as a hate crime since the guy hates middle easterners but he shot guys from India

  62. 62.

    tobie

    @piratedan: There is no end to Republican self-pity and sense of victimhood. Yeah, sure, Gohmert fears for his life because liberals who support gun control will come to his town halls. What’s even more disturbing is that his constituents keep on voting for him! Hard to excuse this.

  63. 63.

    Mnemosyne

    @piratedan:

    Americans for Responsible Solutions (which is Giffords’ gun control PAC) posted a statement from her that her office held a town hall within a few days of her shooting. It was a very nice fuck you to Gohmert and other cowardly Republicans.

  67. 67.

    japa21

    @schrodingers_cat: Yes, they hate you, not for who you are but because of what they think you are. And guess what, they also hate all of us that have your back and the backs of millions of others that are on their hate list. Just the modern day equivalent of hating both the n****rs and the n****er-lovers.

  69. 69.

    Adam L Silverman

    @trollhattan: I’m going to state the following and then shut up about this topic:
    I am the guy that he claims to be.

    And that’s all I have to say about that.

  70. 70.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Adam L Silverman: Yeah, I tossed it in there for the edification of all. Most of my comments that are directed at you are not really directed at you, but I include things for the general Juiceitariat. Because I know you’re versed in nearly all of this, but other commenters may have missed them, or may need context (particularly on military matters…things that Omnes, or John, or raven, or other vets would instantly grok may not be so grokable by other commenters).

  72. 72.

    Jeffro

    OT but I see that Maureen Dowd has decided to start following me on Twitter today ( I don’t follow her )… did I do something wrong to deserve this ?

  73. 73.

    ? Martin

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Actually they don’t hate you per se, they just aren’t smart enough to distinguish between different groups of non pale people.

    I’m not so sure. I’m increasingly convinced that the GOP vision for the US is a venn diagram with one circle labeled ‘heterosexual white christian’. Anyone outside of that circle is either relegated to formal 2nd class citizen or removed from society. TVUUC wasn’t really any different from this event:

    During the interview Adkisson stated that he had targeted the church because of its liberal teachings and his belief that all liberals should be killed because they were ruining the country, and that he felt that the Democrats had tied his country’s hands in the war on terror and they had ruined every institution in America with the aid of major media outlets. Adkisson made statements that because he could not get to the leaders of the liberal movement that he would then target those that had voted them into office. Adkisson stated that he had held these beliefs for about the last ten years.

    This guy looks like the prototype Trump rally attendee.

  74. 74.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Adam L Silverman: The great thing is your writing communicates that. Just like Richard/David and health insurance. There’s a credibility to the writing style of both of you.

  75. 75.

    Jeffro

    Also Mrs. Jeffro is telling me that trump (or someone in the trump administration) just got busted trying to step on the Russia investigation already?

    Who had the under on that particular bet?

  81. 81.

    Patricia Kayden

    @schrodingers_cat: Amen. That’s exactly what I was thinking. I assume this 51 year old (wow does he look old!!) White murderer was a part of the much vaunted working class that we’re all supposed to be worried about and reach out to. Yeah right. As if we could.

  83. 83.

    Renie

    Adam, If so inclined, can you try to explain what type of gov’t Bannon is attempting to create based on his CPAC statements? It sounds like he wants to burn everything down and start over. I would hope that the GOP will have a problem with this and try to stop him.

    Thanks in advance for your always great comments.

  88. 88.

    ? Martin

    Just saw that Trump admin plans to crack down on recreational weed. I’d start stockpiling almonds and avacados, folks, by the time we’re done it’ll be a felony to own a Beach Boys album.

  89. 89.

    HeleninEire

    So I got into Dublin at 5am (midnight NY time). The flight was uneventful until the landing. High winds shook the plane mega. And then we had to wait 45 minutes for our bags. Aer Lingus blamed the high winds but huh? Were they afraid the bags would blow off the cart? So anyway I was in the apt by 6:15 and asleep by 7. And I slept for NINE hours. À record for me. When I woke up decided i needed a bit of detox from the NY fun. So I went to O’Shea’s . My local bar.

    Hey I never said this story made sense.

    Truly this is home. Thrilled to be back. COME VISIT!!

  90. 90.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Renie: Boize Moi…

    That may have to wait till tomorrow. Because I’m honestly I’m not sure I really understand it. I understand what he says – he’s speaking English. Or rather I’m not sure I understand the end state that he thinks he’s trying to achieve.

  91. 91.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Timurid: From your link:

    The direct communications between the White House and the FBI were unusual because of decade-old restrictions on such contacts. Such a request from the White House is a violation of procedures that limit communications with the FBI on pending investigations.

    So basically, the White House tried to get the FBI to lie? This is what we are dealing with, folks. A lying White House trying to force other agencies to cover its tracks. Sure makes me feel safe.

  93. 93.

    hovercraft

    You know that this poor man was distraught because these men stole his job opportunity and made him economically anxious, if it wasn’t for these men coming in and undercutting him, he so would have gotten a job as an engineer.

  94. 94.

    ? Martin

    @Renie:

    It sounds like he wants to burn everything down and start over. I would hope that the GOP will have a problem with this and try to stop him.

    Yes; and very funny.

    My sense from other things I’ve read and seen so far is that the government they want is one where everything is run out of the WH. That’s what an authoritarian state does. All of these agencies are a threat to their vision – they have some measure of independent authority because while they’re part of the executive branch, they’re equally beholden to the laws that Congress has written and the courts. Trumps attacks on the courts support this vision, so yes, he wants to burn the agencies down and run a pure political operation out of the WH where all decisions are made. Look at the cabinet choices. Look at the who has been involved in the EOs.

  96. 96.

    Jeffro

    @Adam L Silverman: @Mnemosyne:

    I truly cannot imagine how she latched on to me…unless she was going through the ‘follow’ list of a couple other folks at the NYT? Maybe she hates Brooksie as much as I do?? Ah well…

    In other news, this is creative: GOP congressman plans to go all “Love Actually” on unruly constituents. at his upcoming town hall. Good plan, my man, good plan! What could possible go wrong…I’m sure the protestors won’t bring cue cards of their own, right? (Probably funnier ones, too!)

  102. 102.

    TenguPhule

    @Renie: Feudalism. With himself as lord.

    What always irritates me about those people is that 99% of the time, in that system they would be on the bottom because a more physically fit facist would be holding all the power in that case. Tubbo facists would be slaves at best, the long pork at worst.

  106. 106.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @? Martin: Here’s the thing…just like in the Star Wars prequels, Donald cannot be an absolute monarch. He cannot just abolish Congress, or the rest of the executive branch. Not just yet. He still needs the Congress and the bureaucracy to control things. He and his inner circle have no fucking idea how big a monster they’re trying to tame/cut down, and they have no idea how long it takes to get things done. Recall that it took Palpatine 20 years to get enough control of the beast so that he could abolish the Imperial Senate…the last vestige of the Old Republic, and bring about a new order of Moffs, Imperial Star Destroyers, and Death Stars. This is no Weimar Republic he’s trying to defang. It’s a 230 year old thing that has grown over those years to span a continent.

  107. 107.

    TenguPhule

    @Villago Delenda Est: Sadly, the rot has spread far enough that he just might have enough brownshirts in the halls of power to make the attempt. He doesn’t have a majority, but a minority concentrated in the right spots could do just as well.

  109. 109.

    Gretchen

    We live in suburban Kansas City near Olathe. My daughter is bringing her Indian-American boyfriend home soon to meet the family. Now I’m nervous about that.
    Then I think of the many immigrants I work with who live in Olathe. It’s a pretty diverse and prosperous town.

  112. 112.

    Mike in NC

    Tea Party nuts in charge of the NC General Assembly are crafting a bill to do away with the requirement to obtain a concealed carry permit.

  113. 113.

    Ruckus

    @Death Panel Truck:
    Meth must be such a fun experience. Let’s total it up.
    1. Sharpens the mind. Well….. No, it’s more like dragging it along the road behind a truck. For six weeks.
    2. Free Dentistry. Well….. Not exactly the stellar results one might actually desire.
    3. Fountain of Youth. Well…. No need to worry about SS being around, you won’t make it that far and you’ll look like you did.
    4. Free Education. Well…. At least everyone else gets to learn how big of an ass you are, even when you are over in the corner gibbering like a – shit there isn’t any other animal stupid enough to try this shit.

  115. 115.

    Adam L Silverman

    @trollhattan: That assumes the best place for someone like me is working in the White House. And the reality is that my deliverables on ISIL and the Levantine problem set are in the right hands where they can do the most good vis a vis the wannabe.

  117. 117.

    Adam L Silverman

    @waysel: I’ve seen a lot of them. To clarify: what I think, based on what he’s stated, he’s likely to accomplish is not necessarily what he thinks he’s trying to accomplish.

  118. 118.

    J R in WV

    @Death Panel Truck:

    I’m 66 and I look like a spring chicken compared to this damaged piece of crap. Meth, much?

    I keep saying I’m gonna resume carrying again, even though in WV most violence is in alleys behind bars at 3 am or between relatives. I do travel outside WV. Some of those places have this kind of violence…

  120. 120.

    momus

    This can’t be a terrorist attack because the perp is white. It can’t be a tourist attack because he is a local. It must be a false flag attack. That’s it, the non-whites attacked him by their mere presence.

  121. 121.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @momus: They are both inferior to the white man, and infinitely more devious and clever than any white man can possibly imagine.

    Just like Obama.

  123. 123.

    J R in WV

    @Mike in NC:

    They did that here in WV. But I was informed by a local state rep that they left the infrastructure for CCW permits intact, so I can keep my permit renewed in order to be able to carry legally in most other states. This is primarily important so as to be able to transport target guns from place to place to shoot at targets with friends who also shoot.

    Also to protect myself and others from nutcases like this yob. I really think more Democrats should take up recreational target practice, and get carry permits, and shoot often, and be armed against the fascists like Mr Yob, the shooter of people who weren’t even the people he hates.

  124. 124.

    Adam L Silverman

    @J R in WV: My understanding is that most of the Constitutional Carry states did the same thing. My guess is that the legislation is all done from a template. Most likely from NRA-ILA.

  130. 130.

    Mike G

    This guy sure has a lot of economic anxiety. You can tell he would have been a brilliant aviation engineer if the Indian he killed hadn’t stolen his job.

  131. 131.

    Miss Bianca

    I’m just so sad about it all right now. I mean, it’s not as if it’s any secret that Whiter Wingerdom is toxic. But to see it enabled, abetted, encouraged and emboldened by the fact that the Shitgibbon and his disgusting myrmidons have taken over is just so nauseating it literally makes me sick to my stomach. Make the White House White Again, yee-haw!

    Ugh. Cannot.stand.my.tribe.

  133. 133.

    Gretchen

    Kansas City again. Our shooters are not only awful but stupid. This guy shot a couple of Indians because he thought they were from the Middle East and members of a completely different religion than they actually practiced. The guy who shot up the Jewish Community Center a couple of years ago didn’t realize that there really aren’t that many Jews in Kansas City, and none of the people he shot were actually Jewish. There was one woman working at the nursing home, and a grandfather and grandson going to a singing competition for the grandson. Because many members of the community used the community center. What do you do with someone so ignorant that they hate people they know nothing about, and confuse those people they know nothing about, with other people they also know nothing about, who are completely separate from the first group?How can we wall off these haters into their own special place where they can’t hurt other people who are just minding their own business, going for a beer after work?

  135. 135.

    leeleeFL

    @Miss Bianca: Yes, this. I have spent soooooooo many years ashamed of my whiteness. Our tribe is, sadly, so willing to destroy others to survive that, surely, we must burn out. I am not sure how much longer it will be. But it feels closer all the time lately.

  137. 137.

    leeleeFL

    @Miss Bianca: I know what you mean. Nice to meet a fellow race-traitor. I was raised to admire diversity, to embrace differences. I have not ever fit in. I used to feel left out. Now I feel proud of my squareness in a round hole world!

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