Reaction to this tweet indicates a lot of people not 100% sold on their kids.
— Schooley (@Rschooley) March 28, 2018
(Reminder: Schooley writes cartoon shows for a living. Yes, it’s a joke!)
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Now, *this* is depressing: Tim Cook is happy to tell us that privacy — like clean water, decent health care, education, and so many other valuable commodities — is just another luxury good…
"Privacy to us..a human right…a civil liberty…something that is unique to America. This is like freedom of speech and freedom of the press," Cook said. "Privacy is right up there with that for us"
Monetized in Golden Age of personal data surveillance https://t.co/0IwICvn4hH
— Thomas Drake (@Thomas_Drake1) March 29, 2018
… Speaking at a town hall event hosted by MSNBC’s Chris Hayes and Recode’s Kara Swisher, Cook said Facebook put profits above all else when it allegedly allowed user data to be taken through connected apps. The event is part of MSNBC’s “Revolution” series.
When asked what he would do if he were in Zuckerberg’s position, Cook replied: “What would I do? I wouldn’t be in this situation.”
“The truth is we could make a ton of money if we monetized our customer, if our customer was our product,” Cook said. “We’ve elected not to do that.”…
Of course, Apple’s already made such ‘tons of money’ selling to “discerning” customers that its biggest problem is not drawing undue attention from government authorities, so Mr. Cook can afford to look down his nose at penny-an-ad barrel-scrapers like Zuckerberg…
Baud
Maybe they could lower the price of their phones so that the rubes can afford privacy too.
Mnemosyne
Um, Tim Cook said kind of the exact opposite of what you said he did. It’s right there in the pull quote you used:
Corner Stone
Chris Hayes continues to tarnish himself, IMO, with his Bernie fascination.
Mary G
@Baud: And pay taxes instead of off-shoring money until the Republicans are in power, then bring it back and give it to shareholders, i.e. people already rolling in dough, instead of customers.
Baud
@Corner Stone: Is that where “Revolution” comes from?
Calouste
I don’t know who Thomas Drake is, but privacy isn’t exactly unique to America.
Thornton Hall
Humans will never care about privacy the way privacy advocates want them to because its existence is a passing historical blip of about 100 years, after 300,000 years of evolving without it.
Corner Stone
Otherwise known as, “Please, PLEASE, take these wheelbarrows full of cash and shut up, shutup, SHUTUP!”
Uber appears to have reached settlement with family of woman who died in Arizona accident
LATimes
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The family of an Arizona woman killed when she was struck by an autonomous Uber vehicle apparently has reached a financial settlement with the company.
Cristina Perez Hesano, an attorney for the daughter and husband of 49-year-old Elaine Herzberg, responded Thursday to inquiries by the Associated Press by saying only that the matter “has been resolved.”
Ken
@Thornton Hall: Much like flush toilets and computers, then.
Baud
@Corner Stone: Settlement was a no brainier.
Juju
Since this is an open thread, and I know this is way off topic, but is it just me who thinks John Dowd looks like a human/vogon hybrid? Every time I see a picture of him all I can think about is painfully bad poetry.
oatler.
I hate to blame everything on the DEA, but I’m going to blame those fuckers.
Corner Stone
@Baud: I don’t know who named the series “Revolution”, but Hayes can’t quit having Bernie on his show to expound and shoutily waggle his finger at Democrats.
I think Hayes has the right perspective on some things but he just bugs the shit outta me.
Corner Stone
@Juju: I think John Dowd looks like a jowly pigman that escaped from Animal Farm.
Baud
@Corner Stone: Baseball season means I can ignore Hayes for six months.
scav
@Calouste: I’m not getting that either, especially as when I was studying privacy issues (especially the geographic end of things), the regulations in the EU were kilometers x 1.609s ahead of anything over here.
Coffee at dawn ☕
@Juju: I keep thinking of the guy in Star Wars – “I have the death sentence on 12 systems.”
HRA
Well Tim Cook if “privacy is a human right….” then why are you asking me for my email password? Gawd!
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Mnemosyne: Yes, I am not seeing it too. WTF?
Apple has it’s faults, but they would be insane to destroy the trust they have with their almost cult like users by pulling some cheep data mining stunt.
Major Major Major Major
Or Tim Cook actually cares. In addition to selling luxury goods. They’re… not in any way in conflict.
Juju
@Coffee at dawn ☕: I had to look that one up.
I can see that.
mike in dc
@Corner Stone: Hayes is a lefty at heart, and I think lefties have a soft spot for pols who unapologetically seem to advocate for lefty policy positions. I do think Hayes should be more mindful of the flaws of said pol, though.
Major Major Major Major
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: I think that AL is trying to snark that privacy is a human right (as long as you can afford Apple products).
lamh36
Parkland Survivor Rejects Laura Ingraham Apology: “#ShutUpAndBeObjective” – Update via @deadline
dmsilev
Yeah, I think Anne is being unfair to Apple (I know, poor misunderstood Apple). Now, I’m sure Cook is taking potshots at Facebook because, well, it’s an easy target, but one of the ways that Apple justifies the price they charge is by convincing their users that they’re not immediately turning around and selling all sorts of user data to advertisers and other such. If they were caught doing that anyway, it’d piss off a lot of people who might decide that their next phone won’t actually be an iPhone and would probably lose them money overall.
Call it long-term self-interest.
Incitatus for Senate
@Major Major Major Major: I think that contempt for Apple always gets clicks, no matter how silly it may be.
Brachiator
Loved this Onion headline concerning Zuckerberg:
But it’s not just a FaceBook problem. In real breaking news,
The Internets, by definition, makes social and information connections deep and instantaneous. Manipulation and abuse is just a mouse click away.
Steeplejack
@Juju:
A week or two ago Colbert introduced a bit about him with “Presidential lawyer and Cadbury meat egg John Dowd . . .”
Major Major Major Major
The Onion is currently running Laura Ingraham’s picture with the headline Nation’s Ivy Leaguers Share Hearty Laugh That Dartmouth Grad Thinks She Can Talk Shit On Anyone
bemused
@Corner Stone:
Is the group “One Revolution” all Bernie people?
Baud
@Incitatus for Senate:
To be fair, we appreciate contempt for just about everyone.
James E. Powell
@Baud:
I’m kind of curious to know why the claimants’ attorney settled so quickly. Would the price have gone down during discovery?
Brachiator
@Baud:
Even Samsung, Google and other companies are getting into the needlessly expensive “flagship” phone game. It ain’t just Apple.
Baud
@Brachiator:
That’s a lot of users of an app I never heard of.
Major Major Major Major
@Brachiator: Apple is the only one that has a reputation for making it mandatory.
Baud
@Brachiator: Nah. List prices are high, but there are often tons of discounts on android phones.
Baud
@James E. Powell: Price was probably high enough. Lawyers generally have a sense of what they think they can recover in a trial.
dmsilev
@Brachiator: I read a story the other day about some company that was rolling out a $2200 smartphone. Which is to say, more than double what Apple charges for their New Shiny. I guess there’s good business in soaking the rich.
Bailey
How is is possible for a front pager to completely misunderstand or misrepresent the exact quote she’s highlighting?
Tim Cook said no such thing. Beyond the quotes others highlighted, there is this detail from Apple’s past:
This is a baffling post.
Corner Stone
@James E. Powell: Just a guess, but they took an air cannon and shot money at the family until they were buried in it.
The longer that case drug on the longer the hiatus of the testing phase was going to be. Uber doesn’t give a shit they killed someone with a family. They just want to get back to the grift.
Incitatus for Senate
At last, an honest politician.
David Evans
@Thornton Hall: For almost all of those 300,000 years anyone invading your privacy was right next to you and you could negotiate with them. Now it could be someone on the far side of the world, or a huge corporation which has no need to consider your feelings. Not the same thing.
WhatsMyNym
@Brachiator: Google’s Play Store shows only 50 million downloads of the MyFitnessPal app. I think their user count is not realistic.
Mary G
Andy McCabe, who Bilbo Bigot fired late Friday night to cut off his pension that would have vested on Sunday, put up a GoFundMe for legal expenses. He says it is not to replace any personal income and if any is left over when it’s all settled he’ll donate it to a charity of his choice. It’s been up five hours and he’s already over $200,000 towards his goal of $250,000. I’m sure his lawyers will find they need more.
Rick
I’m writing this on one of my Macs. I could use the Air Mac, or the Chrome book or the Microsoft 10, either the laptop or the desktop, or I could use one of my Linux boxes (the Raspberry Pi or the TinkerBoard), or the android with either of them… But I write it on my iMac. Because I’m a “discerning” user… or some such. You don’t know how far Apple goes to keep the users data away from anyone else. Check it out. … Added: I’ve also got an iPhone.
Corner Stone
@Mary G:
If he has a case with standing to get to depositions/discovery then it is worth every penny.
lamh36
Lord…a comment on another blog, got me thinking bout the Thornbirds mini-series now. Anyone else remembers it?
Could they even ATTEMPT a remake of that mini-series on broadcast tv today? They’d have to be streaming or cable!!!
Like I said below…The Thorn Birds was the first mini-series I remember watching as a teen!
I had such a crush on Richard Chamberlain!!! I was like why CAN’T Meggie and Father Ralph just be in love….LOL
Hows about I didn’t realize ’til now that it was based in Australia???
https://youtu.be/4ZP5D03LlV8
Brachiator
@dmsilev:
I don’t know. Once you get up to $2200 for a smartphone, you are combining conspicuous consumption with stupidity. This is sometimes a small market. But hey, if rich dopes want to throw money away, who are we to try to tell them otherwise.
@Baud:
I don’t even look at or think about the ultra-expensive flagship phones, even if they dangle a discount. But I know a few people who happily bought some of them.
Major Major Major Major
@WhatsMyNym: their website makes it look like they’re probably counting strava, Fitbit, etc.
lamh36
@lamh36: ooh…and I know exactly who’d I’d cast as Father Ralph and Meggie
Jude Law as Father Ralph de Bricassart …easy peasy…he has already showed he can play a “raffish” priest and he can play young and older Father Ralph…just like he did in The Young Pope…
Keira Knightley as Meghann “Meggie” Cleary…now this is a tough one…because in the mini-series, Meggie is portrayed as young girl, an adult woman, and an “older” woman…but just sticking with the adult/older Meggie for now, Keira could be a good choice…IDK about the aging bit…but I mean, it’s a bit more lines, and a gray wig? Keira could probably pull it off
Bailey
@lamh36:
Casting of the mini-series and their non-Antipodean accents certainly muddied the waters on its location, but yeah, The Thorn Birds is all about the outback in Australia. Probably the only Australian in the series, though, was Bryan Brown (Meggie’s husband.) As I recall, they still threw in some Australian slang into the dialogue.
For what it’s worth, the book was better.
different-church-lady
@Major Major Major Major:
Facebook freeware = payday loans. Discuss.
Major Major Major Major
@different-church-lady: no thanks!
KithKanan
@WhatsMyNym: I’m probably in the breach. I used MFP on the web years before I had a smartphone. The app is comparatively recent. I certainly believe they don’t have that many active users, but total accounts? It’s very possible that many people have signed up since they launched back in 2005.
lamh36
Have y’all seen the TIME cover with AG KKKlebler? Now thiss what I would call someone’s evil aura coming thru via the camera lense!!!!
https://twitter.com/fergnerduson/status/979372797116993537
Jay
@James E. Powell:
Uber probably came in “high” to kill the media coverage and shore up stock prices.
different-church-lady
Remember the days when people expected to pay money for software?
Brachiator
@WhatsMyNym:
The number is from the company’s own press release.
It’s bad enough that there may have been a data breach. Does it make it worse if their security people can’t accurately count users? But in any event, they are notifying customers and asking that they take steps to protect their information.
lamh36
Well NO SHIT SHERLOCK!
burnspbesq
@Mary G:
You do get that it’s the shareholders’ money, do you not?
Steeplejack
@Corner Stone:
You’ll be happy to know that with Steve Kornacki sitting in for Tweety my DVR buffer is down to the present moment. In fact, I’m probably over to HGTV or baseball until Rachel Maddow.
I don’t think Kornacki is worse; he just doesn’t have the hate-watching factor I get with Matthews.
Shana
@Juju: It’s not just you.
different-church-lady
@Brachiator: Hondas are way too expensive: everyone should drive Ford econoboxes.
lollipopguild
@lamh36: How long before all of the Reich-Wing harpies and Flying Monkeys attack for saying the obvious?
John Revolta
@Mary G: We had some guy around here last week trying to collect $ allegedly for McCabe but it smelt like yesterdays haddock. Hope this one’s legit.
Baud
@different-church-lady:
No. I’ve always used free software.
Steeplejack
@WhatsMyNym:
It’s probably also available at the Apple store (whatever it’s called). And perhaps at other app stores overseas.
Mnemosyne
@Brachiator:
It sounds like the MyFitnessPal thing is a good old-fashioned data breach, though, not a Facebook situation where MFP was letting anyone with a buck in their hand buy all of your information.
@Baud:
They also have a website, and there are probably more users of that than of the app. It’s pretty popular for calorie counting and exercise tracking.
And Major^4 is probably right that they’re counting users of related sites as well.
John Revolta
@different-church-lady: Hell, I’m so old I remember when people used to expect to pay money for music.
Major Major Major Major
@Baud: I don’t think I’ve bought a non-video game, non-tax-related piece of software in years.
Even longer if you don’t count Office products.
Jay
@Brachiator:
Used IPhone’s are cheap, and easy to unlock. As long as I keep my IPhone for 2 years on my plan, it’s free, and the same price as an android.
different-church-lady
@WhatsMyNym:
30 million of them are one guy in Duluth who can’t get the damn thing to install on his Galaxy S II.
Jay
More postit’s, more yarn, gonna need another wall soon:
“In late February 2018 The Washington Post reported that one of Vladimir Putin’s main oligarch allies, Yevgeniy Prigozhin, was an intermediary between the Syrian government, the Russian government and Russian mercenaries under Prigozhin’s control.
This is the same Yevgeniy Prigozhin who was indicted in February along with 12 other Russians and three Russian entities by special counsel Robert Mueller as part of his growing investigation into the nexus of all things related to Donald Trump and Russia. The Post report also stated that a senior Russian government minister approved the Russian mercenary attack on U.S. troops and their allies in Syria in February, and that Prigozhin communicated this to the Russian mercenaries before the in the attack.”
https://warisboring.com/how-syria-fits-into-the-trump-russia-scandal/
Mary G
@John Revolta: There’s a picture of him with his family and their golden retriever. Lol. I just assumed it was legit because several people I follow on twitter said it was, reporters and such.
ETA: Some good news:
Brachiator
@different-church-lady:
Eons ago, I had a contract job in an office where I used my own personally bought, legal copy of WordPerfect. People always pestered me to let them make a copy of the software. Other people talked about their favorite shareware products that somehow they never got around to buying. Piracy has always been an issue.
different-church-lady
@John Revolta: Heh. Maybe those days are coming back. 2017 was the first time since 2011 that physical media outsold downloads. It appears people who look at their music as disposable are switching to streaming services. I believe this is a good thing: if (like me) you enjoy the tangible artifact component of music reproduction, thingness is no longer being pushed in its grave. If you just want your music to wash over you, you don’t have to go through the tedium of managing a virtual copy of anything. The ugly middle state — the part where you pay to “own” something you can’t touch (it’s an album, but it’s only a digital facsimile of an album) — disappears.
different-church-lady
@Brachiator: OK: “Remember when software was a thing your friends paid good money for?”
Major Major Major Major
Edit: totally misread
John Revolta
@Mary G: Hmmm. Did the dog look………..you know………….boneyfied?
different-church-lady
@Major Major Major Major: Our world is bifucated. We have people paying the cell carriers hundreds of dollars a month who then bitch when an app costs $3.99 or a tune is a buck.
This is something I believe the open-source folks didn’t really think through.
lamh36
lamh36
Brachiator
@different-church-lady:
Cars are way too expensive. Everyone should walk.
Major Major Major Major
@different-church-lady:
Er, what is?
different-church-lady
@lamh36: Someone tried to murder him — after that a internet bloviator is peanuts on the fear scale.
different-church-lady
@Brachiator: Walking is way too tedious. Everyone should just talk to Alexa from the couch.
different-church-lady
@Major Major Major Major: What happens to our world when all the software is free and open.
Major Major Major Major
@different-church-lady: I’m really not seeing how open source software has any bearing on whatever it is you’re complaining about.
lamh36
These kids are NOT playing…and are NOT scared of Fox News or conservative blowhard…and like most kids their ages, you are NOT gonna beat them in the game of social media…these kids were RAISED in modern social media times…and this is why the NRA and folks like Ingraham…are feeling some heat
zhena gogolia
@lamh36:
I do feel for the poor innocent kids who think that Laura Ingraham is or ever could be a journalist.
different-church-lady
@Major Major Major Major: This is probably because I’m at least partially talking out of my hat. I will attempt to clarify.
* Many open-source advocates believe software should be free
* Google and Facebook are good examples of the pitfalls of making the software free at the expense of privacy, while also driving out expectations that software should be anything but free.
Now, certainly open-souce advocates weren’t thinking, “Oh, Google taking over everything, let’s work towards that.” They’re not responsible for this state of affairs, but they coincidentally share a belief that the software shouldn’t cost the user anything.
You may now beat my theory to a bloody mash.
zhena gogolia
@lamh36:
AND BARBARA STANWYCK IS DEAD, DAMMIT!
MomSense
@lamh36:
Of course I remember Thornbirds. I’m a sucker for all of those dramas. The women of Dynasty made the dramatic turn and hair flip into an art form.
rikyrah
@Corner Stone:
No lie told
zhena gogolia
@Bailey:
I loved that book. Wonder if it’s in the attic somewhere. I loved Bryan Brown too. “A Town Called Alice” . . . .
SiubhanDuinne
Braves, I can’t quit you. When I first checked in, it was the bottom of the 8th and Atlanta was losing to Philadelphia 5-2. Final score, Braves 8, Phillies 5.
I deplore the chop and chant, and I’ll never go to a game at SunTrust Field. But if I’m on the road during the season and the Braves are the visiting team, I’m happy to build my own itinerary around their schedule.
(As a native Chicagoan, of course, I am genetically obliged to be a Cubbies fan.)
Major Major Major Major
@different-church-lady: I don’t think a lot of open-source boosters believe that (at least not that *all* software should be free), and Facebook and google are not for the most part open-source.
zhena gogolia
@Jay:
Inorite, it’s like we have to have a big wall with push pins and threads leading from one to another like the cops on Death in Paradise.
different-church-lady
@Major Major Major Major: Am I munging up two different groups that have partial overlap? Misusing the term “open-source”? Certainly there are advocates for freeware as a social philosophy.
Brachiator
@different-church-lady:
There you go! I imagine that some people deep into the Internet-of-things have almost become phone whisperers.
rikyrah
@lamh36:
Him and his sister.
Great tag team
lamh36
Because of course…like someone said on twitter…the Roseanne reboot is like “Black Panther” for the deplorables…
I wouldn’t watch that reboot…if you paid me to. (Well, unless you were gonna pay me like 9 figures AFTER taxes…a girl gots bills)
different-church-lady
@Brachiator: You could get a lot of people to murder their grandmother’s pets if you just
wrotegave them a smartphone app for it.rikyrah
@lamh36:
I loved it. It rocked. Had a huge crush on Chamberlain too.
kindness
Well I use both Apple products and FB. I don’t live my life on FB, I set my security pretty high as far as sharing goes, so there isn’t all that much there. Apple, well, I buy their phones, ipads, ipods & computers, but nothing from iTunes so my transactions with them are much fewer and farther between. Yea, I might have had my FB data scooped as several people who I am friends with live there and take every stupid quiz and share it telling us to do it too.
People love to hate Apple. They are overly large now but I still like their products. People are going to town on slamming FB and FB deserves every slam they get. They knew they were open to the abuse through the apps. They didn’t care. The money was paramount. I still use FB though, truth be told.
SiubhanDuinne
@Bailey:
I read the book long before the mini-series came out. Loved not only The Thorn Birds, but also Tim and The Ladies of Missalonghi. Wonderful writer, whose works did translate well to both the small and the big screen.
clay
@different-church-lady: Good news. Maybe that will mean that Matador Records will finally release the last album in their Pavement reissue series. (They blamed low physical media sales on the cancellation of the series.)
lamh36
Brachiator
@zhena gogolia:
I really liked that series as well. Caught it on PBS over a couple of weeks. Prior to that, I mainly knew Bryan Brown from that ridiculous Tom Cruise movie, “Cocktail,” and that he had married the stunning Rachel Ward.
Sometime later, “A Town Called Alice” led me to that magnificent series “Tenko,” about the experiences of British, Australian and Dutch women who were captured after the Fall of Singapore in 1942,
rikyrah
@lamh36:
Someone unknown. Do an international search
Major Major Major Major
@different-church-lady: you are, I believe. ‘Open-source’ is about collaborative development of software tools, but it doesn’t necessarily follow that people who like that also think we should live in a techno-utopia where everything is free. It’s the “free as in ‘free speech’, or ‘free beer’?” distinction.
So, google uses open-source things (C, C++, Python, HTML, etc) to make their proprietary software, which they then license to you in exchange for your information. (Google also makes open-source things, like AI software tools and a popular user interface framework.)
Jay
@zhena gogolia:
I had to pop into town yesterday to get more bright red postit’s and blood red angora yarn, ’cause the dead Russians are piling up.
SiubhanDuinne
@lamh36:
That would be delicious casting!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@lamh36: sounds like George has a keen understanding of how the “internet” works. Deleting the tweets should put an end to this story!
Seriously, I wondered if those tweets weren’t the prelude to divorce news.
zhena gogolia
@Brachiator:
When I was younger I thoroughly enjoyed reading A Town Called Alice. I tried a couple of years ago, but the experience of those people was just too scary.
rikyrah
@lamh36:
Pure evil.
I mean ..Son of Satan evil
zhena gogolia
@lamh36:
I have a feeling their ratings may go down. I’m sad because I do love John Goodman, and I loved the original series.
lamh36
And….once again Chris Evans is back on top of my…Hot Actors Named Chris list…even WITH the pornstache (Unless and until Chris Pine gets on social media…Chris Pine…get you azz on twitter my man!)
Mandalay
@different-church-lady:
It’s worse than that. You never really own books and music downloaded from Amazon. For example, if you download a CD from Amazon you can copy it to a thumb drive, but if you lend that thumb drive to anyone else Amazon might get very cross with you.
SiubhanDuinne
@lamh36:
LOL. Chickenshit bastard.
Brachiator
@different-church-lady:
Ya know, I hope not. Might make a fun video game, though.
Mary G
@rikyrah: Lauren Hogg is only 14, but she rules.
TenguPhule
@Baud:
Some of us are able to survive without having a phone on hand all the time.
TenguPhule
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
So one incompetent CEO away then.
JR
The incentive to preserve user privacy is financial, but that’s because Apple provides a product that isn’t contingent on users surrendering their privacy. Surrendering your privacy is Facebook’s model. What’s stunning is how incompetently they’ve handled their business.
lamh36
@SiubhanDuinne: I’m wishy washy on the Knightley casting…but I Jude Law as Father Ralph was my FIRST choice! I didn’t even look for another one…LOL
TenguPhule
@different-church-lady:
Remember when the only way to get software was on physical discs?
TenguPhule
@different-church-lady:
You can theoretically end payday loans by paying them the money they think you owe them.
magurakurin
@Brachiator: but the cheapest Apple phone is nowhere near the cheapest Android platform phone. Right now I can get a Chinese made ZTE phone for $9 from my carrier if I want. But the Taiwanese Asus phone I bought for $6 from my carrier is still working. If you really don’t care much about the device, very cheap phones can be had, but not from Apple.
lamh36
Steve in the ATL
@Mary G:
If they don’t, I’m going to file a bar complaint against them!
TenguPhule
@Baud:
High grade organic gluten-free contempt, we’re not complete monsters.
sukabi
@Baud: do they require a Facebook connected login?
Major Major Major Major
@sukabi: no.
Bailey
@zhena gogolia:
I definitely liked, but didn’t love, the original series. Due to conflicts, I’m not even sure I watched much past the 3rd season.
I tuned into the first two new episodes of the revival. The first was awful, the second was much better. As far as revivals go, content wise, I think they’ll probably do a pretty good job of it. Roseanne is a terrible actress but John Goodman, Laurie Metcalf and Sara Gilbert are all so good. (They even manage to overcome the dopey sitcom with three-camera setup and laugh-track that I can no longer abide.)
But I can’t see me sticking with it because the real Roseanne is just a nasty, crazy person and I can’t support even one thin dime heading her way. I understand that the series isn’t even likely to revolve much around her, and usually I can separate the art from the artist, but in this situation, I just cannot, which is a shame. The other actors are so talented. There’s real talent in the writing. I understand, conceptually, how bringing the show back now may be a good idea, but then again, I don’t and I’m not sure what Goodman, et al, are truly getting out of this.
lamh36
TenguPhule
@Bailey:
You must be new here. Back in the day John Cole did some truly epic face palming posts.
Major Major Major Major
@Bailey:
I can think of a few million things.
lamh36
Welp….HULU stops Ingraham show advertising!
Booger
@Baud: You know, Armour, the world-renowned manufacturer of potted meat products.
Major Major Major Major
@lamh36: yay! Now I don’t have to feel bad!
Steve in the ATL
@SiubhanDuinne:
Gooooooo Braves! Sic ‘em! Woof woof woof woof!
Concur on the Cubs and SunTrust field, though my objections to the latter are (1) the horrible location, (2) the racist reason for moving there, and (3) the lingering pain of having worked for SunTrust [shudder].
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Ivanka’s on the job!
and, Tiff, blink twice if you need help
SiubhanDuinne
@Steve in the ATL:
You are a credit to your profession!
different-church-lady
@TenguPhule: Yes. And I liked it that way.
lamh36
@lamh36: I think people who say this will give them ratings forget what happened to Glenn Beck’s show. Remember Color of Change started and continued a boycott of Beck’s Fox News show…without advertisers…the ratings eventually dropped…and Beck’s show was DONE!
IDK, but I think this kids…will keep this going… we’ll see if Inghram’s show goes down like Beck’s or if it survives more like O’Reilly’s did…ya know BEFORE the harrassment settlements were revealed.
different-church-lady
@Mandalay: I have always suspected a stealthy secondary reason for the big push to electronic everything was to kill the second-hand market for books and records.
piratedan
@Brachiator: you could even catch him in the old Aussie film Breaker Morant, which is an excellent film by the by…
Mary G
Parkland kids with a baby, so cute!
different-church-lady
@lamh36:
KELLYANNE: “Are you crazy? He knows people who have polonium! Get that crap deleted before he sees it!”
Roger Moore
@Baud:
Part of what you’re paying for, though, is them not monetizing your information. You can pay directly when you buy your device, or you can pay indirectly when the device manufacturer, OS provider, and/or carrier decides to sell your information to the highest bidder, but you’re going to pay one way or the other.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I like Goodman too, and also Laurie Metcalfe. A review I read said Sara Gilbert is stealing the show. All people I like whose work I’d like to see. In the clip I saw the character Roseanne says she voted for trump because “he talked about jobs” and “he’s gonna shake things up”, so whether she knew it or not, the writers nailed the depth and thoughtfulness of a trump voter. I did like seeing Metcalfe in a pink hat and “nasty woman” shirt
Trump keeps bragging that 18 million people watched an old tee-vee show with a fading star who likes him. Given that the porn star who spanked him got much higher ratings, should he really be making this point?
Brachiator
@magurakurin:
All very true. But my main point is that the trend towards high price “flagship” phones, whether by Apple or Android, is more about excessive vanity than anything else.
Also, I love my Android phone, but I think it ridiculous that you can buy a new Android phone and never have the latest version of the Android operating system for the life of the device.
Steve in the ATL
@SiubhanDuinne: thank you! And holy shit the rain is coming down hard, at least way over here where I am, like two miles from you.
For those not familiar with Atlanta, this time of year is characterized by alternating massive pollen storms that turn the city yellow interspersed with massive rainstorms that create rivers of yellow pollen-infested water. I intentionally left two of our cars outside of the garage tonight to rinse off the pollen.
Corner Stone
And Chris Hayes follows a bizarre interview with Shulkin with a both barrels blazing dose of Bernie Fucking Sanders.
SiubhanDuinne
@Steve in the ATL:
Yup, pouring like a sumbish! And earlier today, the thickest yellow pollen of the season so far.
And WOOPS! there goes the thunder!
Major Major Major Major
@Steve in the ATL: you’re missing a lovely day in the SFO.
Corner Stone
Oh well.
lamh36
@Bailey: what folks like John Goodman and Laurie Metcalf and Sara Gilbert gets outta this reboot…or why would they do it..
Oh…IDK…maybe…
https://youtu.be/IOM0olrdb6M
Steve in the ATL
@Major Major Major Major: give me a little time—back next week! And may have some free time Friday happy hour-ish. Earlier if I can get the witness to admit to the murder! Or maybe this is a labor-related trial and not an old “Perry Mason” episode. Hard to keep those straight.
Brachiator
@piratedan:
I forgot about that one. Yep. A very good film.
different-church-lady
@Roger Moore:
DING DING DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER!!
The high cost of “free” tech.
The point I was tying to make earlier is that the “free” tech creates a state where everyone thinks all tech ought to be free, and drives out all the tech that doesn’t choose to take data/privacy instead of money.
patroclus
Don’t tell Corner Stone, but I’m pretty sure Richard Chamberlain is gay.
I like Roseanne (albeit not Roseanne Barr) and I’m gonna watch the show no matter what 97% of the GOS says.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Infrastructure week! Infrastructure speak!
The Syria thing especially isn’t getting much attention. Granted, he probably doesn’t remember he said it, and we’re all getting worn down, I think.
Corner Stone
@patroclus:
Wait a second…are you trying to tell me Richard Chamberlain is gay? But he had sex with all the lady parts!
BellyCat
@different-church-lady:
Pretty satisfied with this state regarding electricity in my house. Then again, I’m also one of those “discerning” users.
Bailey
@lamh36:
I’m sure they’re all being incredibly well compensated and that is hard to turn down. Sara Gilbert is a producer of the new series — she’ll make off even better, particularly if this gets picked up for a new season which at this point I can’t imagine it won’t be.
But Goodman and Metcalf have had outstanding careers and neither, I suspect, would truly like to be tarred with the nastiness of Roseanne Barr’s Nazi tweets, pizzagate conspiracy theories, crisis actors, and general batshit craziness.
I saw Goodman appear with Barr on Kimmel the other night and he looked fairly pained in the presence of Roseanne’s asshattery.
I could be projecting.
tobie
@Corner Stone: I wonder at what point Hayes realizes that he’s giving Sanders free advertising and a boost on his next campaign in much the same manner as all the cable networks gave Trump a leg up by constantly interviewing him and airing his rallies.
SiubhanDuinne
@Steve in the ATL:
Never worked for SunTrust, but horrible location and racist reason for move — not to mention sheer waste and stupidity of moving when the only 20-year-old Ted could have been renovated for much less money than building an entirely new stadium — are my primary reasons.
different-church-lady
@BellyCat: YOU DON’T OWN THE ELECTRICITY! IT’S GONE THE MOMENT YOU ACQUIRE IT.
Mnemosyne
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Well, Russia is aiding and abetting the Syrian government in committing a bunch of war crimes right now, so I’m sure that Vlad has told Donnie that everything’s under control and Donnie shouldn’t worry his pretty little head about Syria anymore.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Carter Page, Sam Nurnberg, that Credico (sp?) guy Ari Melber keeps having on, Roger Stone…
How will it affect the Meuller case that so many of the key figures/witnesses seem like they should be playing poker for cigarettes with Danny DeVito and kept away from adult scissors?
different-church-lady
@tobie: I wonder at what point he even cares.
lamh36
@Bailey: Ya know, I’m not at all surprised by the ratings for Roseanne…couple it with folks just seeing what all the fuss is about…but also…there is a reason why Trump won other than Russia…a good number of the “type” WWC portrayed by Roseanne voted for him/against HRC add those people bam ratings
As I said, someone called it “Black Panther for Deplorables” and I think that’s spot on…I’d only add, “for Deplorables and the more “progressive” family members of those Deplorables” who grew up in that type of family culture
Mnemosyne
@different-church-lady:
DO YOU NEED TO SWITCH TO DECAF?
Major Major Major Major
@different-church-lady: you would not be alone in making this point! But you gotta use the right words :)
Roger Moore
@different-church-lady:
Open Source is not primarily about cost; it’s about knowledge and control. If you have the source to your software (and the legal right to make full use of it) you have full power over your system. If you can read the source, it’s much harder for somebody to stick in a back door that gives them access to your computer. If you can modify the source, you can fix the problem with the program that’s bothering you, or hire a contractor to do it for you. If you have the source for the program you use, you can continue to maintain it even if the author abandons it. If you can understand the data format- which you can do if you have the source- no vendor can force you to upgrade by holding your data hostage.
different-church-lady
@Mnemosyne: I HAVE BEEN TOLD IN THIS VERY FORUM THAT THIS IS AN AMUSING AND WELCOME PART OF MY ON-LINE PERSONALITY!
Corner Stone
Carter Page is one crazy white boy.
different-church-lady
@Mnemosyne: ALSO, YES.
different-church-lady
@Major Major Major Major: OK, good. (a) I’m not crazy or alone and (b) I learned something new today.
magurakurin
@Brachiator:
I guess. But it doesn’t seem to make that much of a difference, at least not to me. My phone is Android 6, and I have an Asus tablet that Asus pushed up to 7. I honestly don’t see any difference in the two. But, yeah, I think you are correct in saying that there is a fair amount of skulduggery going on with the makers and new phones and new OS updates. Marketing drives pretty much every business, I reckon. I never plan to buy a new model at full price ever, so, it is different for me. I can understand the anger though for people that shell out full price and then have Samsung or Asus or whoever just blow them off on the next Android update.
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
I didn’t watch the revival since I wasn’t a big fan of the original, but apparently the Laurie Metcalf character is pissed at the Roseanne character because Roseanne talked her into voting for Jill Stein instead of Hillary, so they seem to be addressing the full spectrum of Dumb White People.
lamh36
Mnemosyne
@different-church-lady:
OKAY THEN!
Major Major Major Major
@magurakurin: on the other hand, older android versions have security flaws.
lamh36
Bailey
@lamh36:
Yeah, I’m not sure if that is the right description, though. Black Panther’s box office numbers show that a whole lot more people than just left leaning people saw that movie. Similarly, Roseanne’s numbers show that a whole lot more people than Deplorables are watching this. The Trump call-out and Roseanne Barr being an online troll no doubt excites a certain population, but many others are tuning in.
But as far as Roseanne Conner voting for Trump? Despite the white working class myth, I still don’t really see it based on her prior characterization.
I don’t think her explanation even made sense except as perhaps some living documentation of how the Conner family failed to thrive in any possible way. It’s probably worth noting that only Roseanne is shown/known to have supported Trump. It’s almost as if she’s being portrayed as the crazy white Grandma in a family that isn’t a divided as the hype would have you believe.
It even picks up with them having shitty insurance and not being able to afford medication only to later scoff at the idea of universal health care, as though Roseanne were so mathematically superior while never making the connection that both voting for a.) a con man or b.) a Republican will set you miles back rather than addressing your health care needs.
I mean, possibly, it is an accurate reflection of how backwards the thinking many white blue collar workers have gotten, and that just reveals something more frustrating about how to communicate basic concepts, but it was either so simplified as to be mind-numbing or was punching down on both the characters and the audience.
The problem is, there isn’t a strong argument amongst any class of people for voting Trump (or continuing to support him) unless racism and bigotry (or being a hedge fund manager) are considered and yet the Conners aren’t bigoted or racist, so it actually doesn’t reveal much about the Deplorables at all. And the rest of the content was totally progressive, so not sure how excited this makes the Deplorables in the long run.
It’s like the real Roseanne grafted her nonsense voting onto a fictional family that didn’t deserve it at all.
schrodingers_cat
@Mnemosyne: She is switching to gimlets instead.
Baud
@Major Major Major Major:
The big problem with Android is that the market is far more complicated than with Apple, so it’s hard to talk about Android as a single thing.
lamh36
@Mnemosyne: seems to me that makes it seem like HRC voters are dumb and can be persuaded by smarter Conservatives to vote against her instead of for her.
IDK…it’s not a great portrayal of a HRC supporter, IMHO…but YMMV?
Major Major Major Major
@Baud: Which is why there are so many unsecured android phones out there.
different-church-lady
@Mnemosyne:
Likewise, but my guts are telling me that there are layers of irony going on that would quite understandably go over the heads of the deplorables and their tribal chieftain.
different-church-lady
@lamh36:
They’re not HRC voters if they didn’t vote for her.
Baud
@Major Major Major Major: Right.
Mnemosyne
@schrodingers_cat:
It turns out that I kind of like gin, so I should try a gimlet the next time G and I go out for drinks. ?
Baud
In all candor, I don’t enjoy any sitcoms anymore, so I probably wouldn’t be into the Roseanne reboot even if it weren’t for the Trump connection.
different-church-lady
@Mnemosyne:
That only happens to the best people!
Amir Khalid
@Brachiator:
Most people could get along just fine with a smart phone that could do a few things well enough: take photos, play music and video, surf the Internet, handle a few essential apps. In an ideal world, phone makers wouldn’t be pushing people to buy a new and fancier one every year or so. Smart phones are in effect disposable on a one-year or two-year timescale, and that costs. There’s the cost of purchase, there’s an environmental cost in making phones that will all be in a junk pile by this time next year, there’s a cost in dealing with the growing mountain of obsolete tech. But that’s the smartphone makers’ business model now.
BellyCat
@different-church-lady:
Ahhhh…. So it’s like marriage.
schrodingers_cat
@Mnemosyne: I like gin the best of all hard liquor. I am not much of a drinker though.
Steve in the ATL
@lamh36:
Holy fucking shit
Steve in the ATL
@Baud:
Not since “golden girls” went off the air, eh?
Baud
@Steve in the ATL: It’s almost as if he’s Putin’s Puppet.
I’m sure it’ll be covered on the next episode of Roseanne.
Baud
@Steve in the ATL: I miss Bea.
lamh36
@Bailey: the Black Panther comment was meant in terms of the “cultural significance” that Black Panther had for folks in the Black Panther…it just so happened to also be good.
The WWC culture that Roseanne portrayed before and wants to portray now, is a cultural thing as well. The “crazy white grandmother” in a divided family is actually exactly a cultural thing tho.
Oh and don’t even get me started on the Black grandchild in the promos…who was here and gone (we’ll see if she reappears in later episodes). If you were wondering who the Black grandchild’s mother is supposed to be? If you recall, from an original series ep, when DJ didn’t want to kiss a classmate because she was Black…in the new series…DJ married her…IDK…but I find that ugh…and I’m sure some may not understand what my issue with it is…but I have issue with it.
Anyway…I’m glad for folk who loved it, but me personally, I refuse to watch anything w/Roseanne in it…she is vile.
Major Major Major Major
@Steve in the ATL: what’s wrong with Golden Girls??
raven
@Mnemosyne: You probably know I’m pretty anti-booze but this song is a jam with the great Chicago axe man Mike Bloomfield along with Paul Butterfield
My woman says it’s a dog gone shame the way some men bring their wives money and furs and jewelry and I come home, ain’t got a dime and smellin’ like a brewery
I’m drunk again, I’ve been been drinkin’ Gordons gin
Bailey
@lamh36:
I really can’t argue with that. I doubt I’ll watch beyond the first two episodes posted to Hulu. I did want to see what the hubbub was about.
different-church-lady
That only happens to the worst people.
patroclus
It’s a frickin sitcom!! I simply cannot believe virtually the entire the left blogosphere is going apes%$t about it. The original Roseanne was very funny – the one where they got stoned was up there with “As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.” This one looks to be pretty good too. And it’s gonna get monster ratings.
magurakurin
Michael Rapaport going off on Laura Ingraham. brutal.
raven
And while we’re at it
Paul Butterfield – In My Own Dream
MomSense
@raven:
I am listening to Mike Bloomfield right now. Maryannne is on.
Steve in the ATL
@raven: that’s for rich folks. We men of the people drink Taaka.
Elizabelle
Gin can be very useful in getting through the Trump years, dreadful as they are.
I wonder if Moscow Mules have become less popular, since we have one in the White House.
schrodingers_cat
@lamh36:I agree with you about Roseanne.
Baud
@patroclus:
You’re new to the left blogosphere.
Don’t know or care. Let the market decide.
JR
@lamh36: The pressure points are easy: producers, other actors on the show. If Roseanne wants to make this her Trump apologia, those folks should be forced to own it or walk away.
raven
@Steve in the ATL: Why am I thinking Butterfield and Bloomfield were not exactly in the rich people world?
lamh36
And…Johnson & Johnson…OUT!
patroclus
@Baud: We roundly mocked Dan Quayle for his take on Murphy Brown. Now, we’re emulating him. It’s just a sitcom!
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: “No puppet, no puppet; you’re the puppet!”
efgoldman
@Bailey: Oh for fuck’s sake, Wilmerbot. It’s a fucking sitcom.
raven
@MomSense: He was incredible.
Bailey
@lamh36:
Never mind. Roxanne Gay said it much better than I ever could in an opinion piece she just posted. Pretty much sums up my thoughts exactly:
Baud
@patroclus:
That’s a dumbass comparison.
magurakurin
@Baud:
me also. I never cared much for the sit-com genre, and in particular the ones that were loaded with social propaganda as they “examined the hard hitting issues of the day.” Things like Seinfeld that are just silly and confine social commentary more to simply the absurdity of life I don’t mind, but the Ozzie and Harriet style instructional film strip type ones, I never much cared for. I have always thought that the way that elements of America society defines itself, educates itself, and has “discussions of issues” with itself through sit-coms is a rather dysfunctional element of the society I grew up in.
Bailey
@efgoldman:
Well, eloldman, I have no idea what you mean by this. That sitcoms can’t reflect real life or that cultural criticism is a subject that you don’t understand? Either way, you sound like an old man yelling at clouds.
Major Major Major Major
@Baud: this isn’t even left blogistan!
J R in WV
@Major Major Major Major:
Linux, and associated free/open tools.
Why do anything else?
lamh36
@Bailey: which is what I said about ratings…folks seeing what’s new and the others I mentioned.
The question is will those folks who were just looking to see what’s new, continue to watch or will the ratings just be driven by those others I mentioned.
Again…if you watched it and loved it…good for you…I aint mad atcha…but nah…I’ll pass…thx
Baud
@Major Major Major Major:
I knew I should’a taken that left turn at Albuquerque.
raven
@J R in WV: I ask again, did you see my references to Sea of Cortez books on your photo thread?
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: Agreed, all these tired retreads, sequels and prequels are mostly boring. I am going back to my roots, discovering new Hindi movies and rediscovering older ones, mostly through their music. Since I have almost twenty years of catching up to do, I have a lot to pick and choose from.
ETA: As for sitcoms, after Seinfeld I haven’t really gotten into one. Friends was kinda meh.
Bailey
@lamh36:
If I had to guess, I’d say that ratings will probably level out a bit but not tank, no matter what or who Roseanne is. And my guess is that the vast majority of the country doesn’t know or hasn’t been exposed to Roseanne’s nasty Twitter incarnation over the past several years.
I didn’t love it. But I didn’t hate it either. I can recognize quality produced content and that goes a long way in explaining the ratings. I don’t plan to continue watching because I can’t stomach Roseanne.
zhena gogolia
@lamh36:
The sister was always depicted as making bad choices. Roseanne, OTOH, was depicted as being smart and salt of the earth, so it’s not consistent.
BillinGlendaleCA
@patroclus: I don’t think we’d be talking about it much except that Trump brought it up.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat: I didn’t realize you weren’t up on Hindi movies.
Baud
@BillinGlendaleCA: It’s been in the news too because of the good ratings.
zhena gogolia
@Baud:
I watched Black-ish for a few weeks to see Daveed Diggs, and although it made me laugh, I haven’t watched again. I’ve just gotten off of series television of any kind. (unless it’s PBS)
Major Major Major Major
@J R in WV: those games I buy often don’t run on Linux.
Steve in the ATL
@patroclus: Dan Quayle blamed a sitcom for the collapse of society. That isn’t the complaint here. Go back and reread the posts and then try again.
Baud
@zhena gogolia: I still watch brainless TV dramas. Just not sit-coms.
NotMax
@raven
Much liked your typo ‘Sea of Cortex’ in an earlier comment.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud:I have been catching up, over the last two years.
SiubhanDuinne
@Baud:
There used to be a regular commenter here with that nym. Wonder what ever happened to him/her.
Major Major Major Major
@Baud: I myself love mediocre procedurals.
Mnemosyne
@patroclus:
So, comrade, were you unable to sleep, or did they put you on a new shift? It’s awfully early in Moscow.
zhena gogolia
@Baud:
The dramas are too bloody these days.
scav
@Bailey: Oddly enough, I’ve not recognized any consistent stable relationship between quality of production or content and ratings or sales. Some things are just pet rocks and cabbage patch whatevers.
raven
@NotMax: phone
NotMax
@Major Major Major Major
Admit it, you’re just waiting for someone to produce The Javascript Murders.
:)
patroclus
@Steve in the ATL: You need to go over to the GOS and read the multiple recommended threads and all the posts there and try again. Are you going to join the boycott of ABC and all their advertisers over this? Do you really think that’s an appropriate response?
Major Major Major Major
@NotMax: is that where I murder Brendan Eich every week?
Mary G
Crap anybody who didn’t vote or didn’t vote for Hillary has screwed our progressive paradise:
They can all go DIAF and I usually don’t say things like that, but the thought of some Federalist weasel operating here is nauseating.
JR
@Bailey: Speaking of Jill Stein, it’s worth mentioning that Barr a few primaries to Stein in the past.
I’ve felt that Barr is basically a troll and always has been.
Mnemosyne
@schrodingers_cat:
People were super excited about the “Gilmore Girls” revival and then hated it once it actually aired.
Roseanne became infamous for her behind-the-scenes antics last time, so we’ll see if the producers are able to keep her on a short leash or if she’ll blow the whole thing up again.
lamh36
@zhena gogolia: I do try to watch Black-ish more often than not…if not the night of, I binge watch eps I’ve missed.
Speaking of Black-ish, ABC and Roseanne, I literally just saw this come across my timeline…
If ya’ll are not familiar with this, here is the backstory:
ABC Shelved ‘Black-ish’ Political Episode Over ‘Creative Differences’ (EXCLUSIVE)
I guess I buy that…but the episode was filmed, edited, and in the can, so…”creative differences” shoulda shelfed it BEFORE the money was actually spent?
But ok…
efgoldman
@patroclus:
I don’t boycott ABC. I just don’t watch any of their programs except some sports BECAUSE THEY SUCK
efgoldman
We going for a TBogg unit?
Mary G
@Mnemosyne: Yeah, I give her 25 days before she’s screaming abuse at some poor ABC executive and gets bounced.
Mnemosyne
@patroclus:
Comrade, you need to update your troll farm’s briefing book. Half the commenters here are refugees from when the Great Orange Satan lost its damn mind after Obama was elected.
Really, you guys have all of our Facebook data and you still can’t get the basics right?
NotMax
@Major Major Major Major
In an endless loop which never resolves.
:)
Brachiator
@Amir Khalid:
I’m not sure that the pricing for premium “flagship” phones are truly reflective of costs, but I take your point.
But again, one of the crazy things is that as of February, only 1.1 percent of Android phones are running Oreo, and Android P is around the corner. And even if we only considered Nougat and Marshmallow phones, you have this weird situation where hardware and software innovation are permanently out of sync. And yet, people accept it and keep buying new phones.
schrodingers_cat
@Mnemosyne: I liked the Gilmore Girls revival, except for the Rory character but I had hated her in the last two seasons of the original show too. So not a surprise.
debbie
@lamh36:
I’m sorry not to see that Blackish episode. That and Modern Family are the only sitcoms I watch.
Bemused senior
@Brachiator: Biggest risk to user whose account was breached is to people who use the same account on multiple sites, especially their email account. Depending how it was stored and how strong, it can eventually be cracked. Then the crackers can try it against the email account and perhaps others. When large internet sites we’re breached the security group I was in at (large email provider) would try to get the stolen file , often posted, and Mark all accounts in our service for the list as needing a password reset. A lot of email break-ins happen this way. Moral is use different passwords on different sites.
Mnemosyne
Look, people, there’s only one logical answer to this sitcom dispute:
Everyone needs to watch “The Good Place.”
Problem solved. You’re welcome.
patroclus
@efgoldman: Yeah, ever since they dumped MNF, I don’t watch much on ABC anymore either. But the new Roseanne, which is executive produced by Sara Gilbert, and has a gayish grandson and an African-American granddaughter, and a surrogate mom and good acting talent in Goodman, Gilbert and Roseanne’s sister, looks interesting. Besides, the Alienist just ended, I just binge-watched The Pact, McMafia is on a different night, and Game of Thrones won’t be on for months.
Major Major Major Major
@Mnemosyne: fun fact: Michael Schur owns the film rights to Infinite Jest.
Brachiator
@NotMax:
Ha! I’d watch that show. It could be set in a small sea coast village called Oracle.
schrodingers_cat
@NotMax: With elebenty GO TO statements, Oh noes..
patroclus
@Mnemosyne: What on earth are you talking about?
scuffletuffle
@zhena gogolia: Bryan Brown…I’ll be in my bunk…
Major Major Major Major
@NotMax:
while(1) { kill() }; “The M^4 Story”seaboogie
@Mnemosyne: Thanks to you and the other commenter for talk me down last night re: Ingraham. I ended up just calling her a *garbage person* and left it completely ungendered. David Hogg is so much classier than me – his brilliant strategy has cost her 8 sponsors as of an hour or so ago.
BillinGlendaleCA
@patroclus:
Now, why on earth would I want to do that?
Brachiator
@Bemused senior:
Yep. I’m trying to get better about this, going back and changing old passwords. Also use 2 factor authentication.
And yet I am sometimes amazed at the poor password habits of some people.
Mnemosyne
@patroclus:
Sorry, I was reading too fast and thought our “contrarian” Russian troll Procopius was back. My bad.
To me, claiming “contrarianism” as a virtue just says that you’re admitting to being easily manipulated, since all someone has to do is say the opposite of what they want you to think and you’ll go right along with it. Contrarianism is laziness trying to pretend to be smart.
JR
@Brachiator: Wasn’t that Myst?
magurakurin
@Mnemosyne:
lol
patroclus
@BillinGlendaleCA: Well, that comment was in reply to Steve in the ATL. In your case, I wouldn’t recommend it. Unless you want see multiple threads and posts calling for a boycott of ABC and all of their advertisers as well as pressure campaigns on John Goodman, Sara Gilbert and others for making a living by appearing in a sitcom with Roseanne Barr. I’m sorry to go against the grain here and say I liked the premiere. At least here, I think, I can get away with it without being called “comrade.”:-)
magurakurin
@patroclus:
considering that Russia is now a mafia-state and not a communist state, maybe we should switch to calling people “a friend of ours”
MomSense
@raven:
He died so young. Tragic because he was a beautiful artist.
patroclus
@Mnemosyne: No problem. I don’t claim to be a “contrarian.” But I did like the Roseanne premiere. And that’s clearly a minority here on BJ. On the GOS, though, I’m pretty sure I’d be hide-rated if I expressed that view today.
I have been to Russia though – as part of a school jazz band in 1979 and again in 1994 for Law Day with, among others, the then-Chief Judge of the 6th Circuit. They just loved our music the first time, our message on constitutionalism and the rule of law went over less well the second time.
Steeplejack
@raven:
He saw and replied.
Omnes Omnibus
@schrodingers_cat: We know.
Westyny
@raven: That might be Elvin Bishop playing the lead guitar and singing in that song. But, yeah, great.
Omnes Omnibus
@patroclus: Is this GOS? If you want that fight, have it there. Please. You are boring me.
Steve in the ATL
@patroclus:
Like hell I do. If you want to discuss the opinions at GOS, then go there and post. We don’t give a shit about Bernie Bros or Never Hillary morons at B-J, which is why most of us are here and not there.
magurakurin
@Steve in the ATL:
and a lot of us check over there pretty regularly. I stop by there everyday. I knew full well about the Rosanne rage going on there. Still, it can be a good source for headlines and there are informative and entertaining diaries from time to time. Just stay out of the comments. That’s pure crap over there.
Corner Stone
@Omnes Omnibus: The cranky pants. They are cranky tonight.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: I am here because Atrios, et al., went a bit doolally in 2008.
patroclus
@Steve in the ATL: And if you don’t like Roseanne, try and make your points reasonably and with respect like we do on BJ rather than the way they do it on the GOS. The GOS ad hominem style you’re using here is inappropriate.
magurakurin
@Omnes Omnibus: I still read Atrios everyday. I like what he is saying about self-driving cars these days. On politics he isn’t my favorite. And I never read the comments much at all. They never seem to discuss the main topic, like, ever.
Mnemosyne
@patroclus:
I have developed a visceral reaction to the word “contrarian” that’s quite similar to a certain Stooge’s reaction to the words “Niagara Falls.”
magurakurin
@patroclus:
that’s news to me. I’ve seen some hell fire, knock down drag outs here. Like full on WWE squared circle stuff.
Mnemosyne
Do we get a TBogg unit for this thread with one more comment?
Omnes Omnibus
@magurakurin: The fuck you have, shit bag.
BlueDWarrior
@SiubhanDuinne: yeah I wish teams with American aboriginal themes would refrain from the tomahawk chop. But I still have a soft spot for the Braves since the mid 90s, though my no 1 team are the Chicago Cubs.
magurakurin
@Omnes Omnibus: lol
patroclus
@Omnes Omnibus: LOL. In that vein, I liked the Roseanne premiere – deal with it! (Hopefully, that doesn’t bore you).
magurakurin
@Mnemosyne: I believe a Tbogg unit is 500, so unless someone calls Bernie Sanders a Russian plant who has a secret crush on Ivanka Trump…probably not. Two threads on top of this one, now…
Omnes Omnibus
@patroclus: Too late.
NotMax
@magurakurin
Yeah, 300 would only be counted as 3/5 of a Tbogg unit.
;)
Gerald
@Baud:
Now THAT would be putting HIS money where his mouth IS!
Don’t think that will be happening … not anytime soon!
Gerald
@Corner Stone: Uber hushed THIS cluster … REAL quick!
schrodingers_cat
@Omnes Omnibus: Of course, since I am always sharing what I find.
The Other Bob
@Rick:
I seem to remember a whole lot of nude photos hacked from Apple iCloud accounts. I am betting some of those victims didn’t even know their photos were on the cloud.
Apple never paid a price for that debacle.