Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Damn right I heard that as a threat.

Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.

I have other things to bitch about but those will have to wait.

Republicans want to make it harder to vote and easier for them to cheat.

We will not go back.

If you tweet it in all caps, that makes it true!

They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!

I am pretty sure these ‘journalists’ were not always such a bootlicking sycophants.

The next time the wall street journal editorial board speaks the truth will be the first.

Republicans: slavery is when you own me. freedom is when I own you.

New McCarthy, same old McCarthyism.

Republicans cannot even be trusted with their own money.

People identifying as christian while ignoring christ and his teachings is a strange thing indeed.

“Until such time as the world ends, we will act as though it intends to spin on.”

Dumb motherfuckers cannot understand a consequence that most 4 year olds have fully sorted out.

We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. keep building.

Those who are easily outraged are easily manipulated.

JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?

“Can i answer the question? No you can not!”

Technically true, but collectively nonsense

Whoever he was, that guy was nuts.

Lick the third rail, it tastes like chocolate!

This must be what justice looks like, not vengeful, just peaceful exuberance.

Only Democrats have agency, apparently.

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Yesterday’s DACA Ruling

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I miss the more sedate pace of yesteryear, when we might have chewed over a ruling on a president’s immigration-related order for several days. Too much goes by the boards in these evil times. But yesterday, the Trump admin did get a major rebuke from a Republican-appointed judge for tantrum-torpedoing the DACA program because Obama. Via Vox:

In a ruling released Tuesday night in the case NAACP v. Trump (combined with the case Trustees of Princeton University v. Trump), DC District Judge John Bates continued a streak of legal defeats the Trump administration has suffered in their attempts to end the DACA program.

Two federal judges had already issued preliminary injunctions against the administration, forcing the government to allow immigrants who already have work permits under DACA to apply for two-year renewals.

Judge Bates went further. His ruling would force the Trump administration to allow immigrants who qualify for DACA — by being between the ages of 15 and 31, having arrived in the US before 2007, being enrolled in school or having a degree, and not having a significant criminal record — to apply for work permits even if they never applied before September 2017.

Crucially, though, Bates’s ruling doesn’t go into effect for 90 days. In the meantime, the judge is giving the Trump administration a chance to redeem itself. If Trump’s Department of Homeland Security issues a new memo in the next 90 days that offers a stronger legal argument for ending DACA than the one it’s provided so far, it can avoid having to grant new DACA permits.

The ruling could end up reanimating DACA in full, against the administration’s wishes. Or it could give the administration a lifeline that will help it persuade appeals courts to overturn the defeats it’s already suffered. It all depends on what happens in the next 90 days.

I’m not a lawyer, so I don’t know what the chances are the Trump people will come up with a rationale that will satisfy the judge. Sarah Huckabee Sanders’ comments on the ruling today indicate that all they have so far is the racist bamboozle dance they’ve been doing all along. Via Politico:

Speaking at the White House press briefing, Sanders blasted the ruling as “extraordinarily broad and wrong on the law.”

“This ruling is good news for smuggling organizations and criminal networks and horrible news for our national security,” the Trump spokeswoman said.

Sanders argued that the decision “creates an incentive for more illegal immigrant youth to come here and causes them to expect similar judicial policies be applied to them.”

Unless the youthful drug mules in Huckabee Sanders’ imagination are capable of traveling back in time and arriving in the U.S. by 2007, they won’t qualify for DACA. She probably knows that. Or not. Anyway, she’s a liar, as is her boss.

American young people in DACA status are worth at least 10,000 spawn of Mike Huckabee and represent less than 1/10,000th of a national security threat than Trump’s unsecured phone. But you knew that.

Open thread.

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  2. 2.

    Yarrow

    Anyway, she’s a liar, as is her boss.

    I had the misfortune of seeing her face on the TV today. She is such an ugly looking person. And it’s not really about her looks. It’s the ugly on the inside that just radiates from her every pore.

  3. 3.

    JPL

    @Chet Murthy: If he was prescribing himself opioids, I think his career in the military is finished. He’s young, so not sure where he goes from here.

  4. 4.

    Frankensteinbeck

    I’m not a lawyer, so I don’t know what the chances are the Trump people will come up with a rationale that will satisfy the judge.

    Judging purely from the administration’s performance so far, there’s about a 1 in 4 chance a non-idiot will craft something immoral and vile but legal. The other 3 out of 4, the administration comes back with proof the arguments against them were right all along.

    Unless the youthful drug mules in Huckabee Sanders’ imagination are capable of traveling back in time and arriving in the U.S. by 2007, they won’t qualify for DACA. She probably knows that. Or not. Anyway, she’s a liar, as is her boss.

    Putting on my Racist Whisperer hat again. I have no idea about Sanders, but in the mind of Trump, Kelly, most of his administration, and tens of millions of Republican voters, you are missing the bigger picture. They know in their hearts that America is being flooded with drug-dealing, rapist, murdering, Mexican immigrants. Your argument just means that you don’t get it, caught on a technicality without seeing whatever fact must exist that proves you’re wrong. It doesn’t matter what that fact is. They know it must be there because they know that Spooky Spooky Drug Dealers Drug Cartels Oooh, so they’re free to dismiss your arguments.

  5. 5.

    feebog

    @Yarrow:

    She is such an ugly looking person. And it’s not really about her looks. It’s the ugly on the inside that just radiates from her every pore.

    I don’t know, every time I see her I am reminded about lipstick and a pig for some reason.

  6. 6.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et Al.)

    I’m so fucking glad Mueller is going to put out a report in two or three months, and I don’t want to get greedy here, but damn, can’t he get it done already? This misadministration fucks the country harder by the day.

  7. 7.

    Yarrow

    @JPL: I wonder if they’ll let him retire and collect his pension? Seems like if the allegations are true they are so bad that maybe he would not be allowed to do that. And his medical career is toast. What a mess.

  12. 12.

    tobie

    I wonder how long before these DACA make their way to the Supreme Court. Yesterday’s ruling gutting the ability of Americans to hold foreign corporations liable for human rights abuses and today’s oral arguments concerning the muslim ban have gotten me depressed. I don’t know how Kennedy earned his reputation as a swing vote on the court. With the exception of LGBTQ rights, he strikes me as someone who always sides with the powerful.

  13. 13.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Chet Murthy:

    Back when he had that presser in January, following T’s annual physical, I came away with distinctly skeevy vibes about Ronny Jackson. Never envisioned anything like this, though.

  16. 16.

    The Golux

    @Yarrow:

    It’s the ugly on the inside that just radiates from her every pore.

    QFT. It’s amazing how the people who replace jettisoned Trump appointees make one long for those jettisoned. Sean Spicer was a rock of integrity and decency in comparison.

  18. 18.

    Betty Cracker

    @JPL: Jackson is further proof that everything Trump touches turns to shit. I’m just speculating from what little we know, but I get the feeling Jackson is maybe a high-functioning alcoholic. Now he’s toast.

  20. 20.

    dmsilev

    @Betty Cracker: When his nomination was first announced, I felt bad for him. I sort of thought that Trump strong-armed him into “volunteering” for a job that he knew he wasn’t qualified for.

    Yeah, well, maybe I was a tad too charitable.

  21. 21.

    Percysowner

    @Yarrow: It takes a lot to lose a government pension. Committing crimes against national security level of bad. Ronnie Johnson was a bad, bad, bad employee, but he didn’t give., or

  25. 25.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    The owner of the New England Patriots said in a meeting with NFL owners, executives and players that President Trump was using public fury over football players who kneel during the national anthem as “fodder to do his mission.”
    ***

    “The problem we have is, we have a president who will use that as fodder to do his mission that I don’t feel is in the best interests of America,” Kraft, a longtime Trump supporter, said, according to the Times. “It’s divisive and it’s horrible.”

    If only someone had warned Kraft before the election

    Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie called Trump’s presidency “disastrous.”

    “Another fact I want to throw out there: Many of us have no interest in supporting President Trump,” Mr. Lurie said.

    “But this is not where you brandish a group of people because they own assets in a sport we love, supporting what many of us perceive as, you know, one disastrous presidency,” he said, using a vulgarity to emphasize “disastrous,”

  26. 26.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Betty Cracker:

    Jackson is further proof that everything Trump touches turns to shit.

    It’s incredible. Not a lot of things have caught me by surprise in the clusterfuck so far. One has been how powerful and universal the Shit Midas effect has been. The other is his cowardice. I expected both things in general, but not the all-consuming, mythological extent of them. People who had great reputations let Trump touch them, and a few weeks later, we find out they’re incompetent criminals.

  27. 27.

    schrodingers_cat

    @Frankensteinbeck: To me it was plain old English. I used to think she was a bit high strung and little crazy.
    In fact it was her constant insistence that she was not a racist that prompted me to look at her emails in that light. Especially after her excuse making for the man in the WH.

  28. 28.

    SiubhanDuinne

    these evil times

    Needs to be a tag.

    (Not the rotating kind; the category kind.)

  29. 29.

    Brachiator

    @tobie:

    I wonder how long before these DACA make their way to the Supreme Court. Yesterday’s ruling gutting the ability of Americans to hold foreign corporations liable for human rights abuses and today’s oral arguments concerning the muslim ban have gotten me depressed.

    I think that the Court may defer to Trump with respect to the Muslim ban, not wanting to get drawn into a battle over presidential power.

    But Congressional action over DACA might make a Supreme Court battle unnecessary. Unfortunately, the Trump administration, urged on by a nasty anti-immigrant faction of conservatives, keeps targeting groups of nonwhite people, branding them as undesirable, and deporting them. From WaPo and other sources:

    The Department of Homeland Security is preparing to cancel the temporary residency permits of about 9,000 immigrants from Nepal, the Trump administration’s latest move to expel foreigners living in the United States with some form of provisional status.

    According to internal planning documents viewed by The Washington Post, Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen will give the Nepalis a one-year grace period to prepare their departure, but they would face deportation after June 24, 2019.

    The Nepalis were granted temporary protected status (TPS) — allowing them to remain in the United States legally — after a 7.8-magnitude earthquake devastated the country three years ago, on April 25, 2015, killing nearly 9,000.

    The TPS designation was created by Congress in 1990 to avoid sending foreigners back to nations destabilized by natural disasters, armed conflict and other catastrophes.

    Immigration hard-liners in the Trump administration have pushed to eliminate TPS protections whenever possible. In recent months DHS has canceled the residency permits of 200,000 Salvadorans, 50,000 Haitians and a smaller number of Nicaraguans and Sudanese.

  30. 30.

    Yarrow

    @Frankensteinbeck: OT – I wanted to let you know that I recently saw the former tween, now teen, who I gave your “Please Don’t Tell My Parents I Blew up the Moon” book to a few years ago (when she was a tween) and it is still her favorite book. How many other books are in the series? I owe her a late birthday present and was thinking of getting her the rest of them. Anyway, I thought you’d like to know you have a big fan!

  33. 33.

    Brachiator

    OT. Trump gets history wrong again.

    Macron followed a long line of heads of state to address a joint session, from British Prime Minister Winston Churchill in 1941 to Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi in 2016.

    The French leader noted that his speech to lawmakers fell on the 58th anniversary of the last time a French leader spoke to lawmakers, when President Charles de Gaulle visited Washington in 1960. Although Trump tweeted Wednesday morning that such a “great honor” was “seldom allowed,” more than 100 leaders have appeared before a joint session since Churchill.

    Macron’s speech was well received. Sadly, Trump probably will not pay attention to it, especially the calls for tolerance and multi-national co-operation.

  34. 34.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @schrodingers_cat:
    Oh, I see, I see! Yes, the way they read the same words and seem to take an utterly different meaning out of them. It’s what dog whistling is based on. I grew up… awash in this stuff, where once you already knew that almost all young black men were in gangs or trying to resist being recruited by gangs, that they were standing in the corner of every school yard trying to get kids hooked with that first free sniff of cocaine, tougher drug laws just made sense. It was for their own good! And the whole Middle East was a jumble of ‘Arabs’ and ‘Muslims’ who were all insane and evil and called America the Great Satan, so reasoning with them was a foolish idea. And so on, and so on. I identify racism as much as anything by checking what I was raised to think, and going the other way. Misogyny, too. And abusive psychology. Man, do I hate the South.

  37. 37.

    Mike J

    @Chet Murthy: Yesterday when the big news was that he gave staffers on AF1 Ambien it sounded like the sort of nothing story they would throw out to make people think all the accusations were nothing. I knew it couldn’t be all he did to get Republicans to look askance. There had to evidence of worse stuff.

    What’s funny is Sanders complaining about dusky drug mules while the opioid epidemic has been fueled by white guys who went to med school.

  39. 39.

    Aleta

    HUD Sec Carson donates entire furniture collection for use in low income housing. “Inspired” Cabinet members quickly deed 100s of their best houses over to program.

    HUD Sec Carson on Wednesday proposd raising the amount that low-income families are expected to pay for rent — tripling it for the poorest households — as well as making it easier for property owners to demand work requirements for those receiving federal housing subsidies. The move to overhaul how rental subsidies are calculated would affect 4.7 million families.
    …
    “There is one inescapable imperative driving this reform effort,” Carson said. … “The current system isn’t working very well. Doing nothing is not an option.” The bill would also allow public housing agencies and property owners to impose work requirements.
    …
    “Every year, it takes more money, millions of dollars more, to serve the same number of households,” Carson said.
    … Decades-old rules … are “far too confusing” and convoluted, often resulting in families who earn the same income paying vastly different amounts of rent “because they know how to work the system.”
    “They know how to include certain deductions that other people may not be aware of,” Carson said.
    …
    HUD also seeks to eliminate deductions for medical and child-care costs when determining a tenant’s rent.

  41. 41.

    Aleta

    @Aleta: cont.

    Barbara Sard, vice president for housing policy at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, said the latest proposal, if passed, could result in millions of individuals losing their homes. “The very purpose of these programs is to provide a stable home for people who otherwise can’t manage on their own,” Sard said. “Ignoring that destroys the effectiveness of these programs to prevent homelessness and keep children out of foster care.”

  46. 46.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    The Hill
    ‏Verified account @thehill
    7m7 minutes ago

    #BREAKING: Cohen to plead the Fifth in Stormy Daniels lawsuit

    34 replies 69 retweets 99 likes

  48. 48.

    Ocotillo

    When Doctor Feelgood gave the presser about our 239 lb occupant, so many of us were thinking he’s lying, Trump put him up to this, etc… Adam even came in and wrote in comments about despite how it looked, the good doctor would do no such thing. Add to mix it was said Obama liked the guy and while no one really believed Fatty really weighs 239, well I guess the doctor is being as vague as possible without out and out lying.

    Now reading the reports, his being a kiss up kind of guy, it really leaves no doubt he lied his ass off at the January presser.

  49. 49.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    Sarah Sanders
    ‏Verified account @SarahHuckabee
    3 Nov 2016

    When you’re attacking FBI agents because you’re under criminal investigation, you’re losing

    19,959 replies 62,887 retweets 68,303 likes

  50. 50.

    Chet Murthy

    @Gelfling 545: Sorry, I didn’t mean that Jackson wasn’t culpable. Just that …. well, y’know, when’s the last time a woman was caught doing anything even remotely as flagrant? It’s *men*, and then sure yeah, “men close to Trump — he draws the shits in like a magnet”. But first, it’s men.

  53. 53.

    SenyorDave

    @Frankensteinbeck: I have no idea about Sanders, but in the mind of Trump, Kelly, most of his administration, and tens of millions of Republican voters, you are missing the bigger picture. They know in their hearts that America is being flooded with drug-dealing, rapist, murdering, Mexican immigrants

    Sanders shouldn’t be given a pass. She comes out on a daily basis trying to justify Trump’s racism. As far as I’m concerned she is no different than any other mouthpiece for a fascist . Whether she believes it or is just doing it for the money, she is an EVIL woman.

  54. 54.

    TenguPhule

    @Chet Murthy:

    well, y’know, when’s the last time a woman was caught doing anything even remotely as flagrant?

    Dunno, what was Devos’s last public statement?

  56. 56.

    TenguPhule

    @Baud:

    I’m starting to doubt his assessment of Trump’s health.

    We should have known that his statement about Trump having the best jeans was wrong when we saw he never wears any.

  57. 57.

    Aleta

    About the dotted dress worn by the dishonorable curator of sweatshops:

    @HappyHound1
    Replying to @IvankaTrump

    Very toilet paper holder circa 1950 Retro chic

    Picture

  58. 58.

    Brachiator

    @debbie:

    Speaking of Kanye

    I understand that William and Kate are thinking of naming their new son Kanye. Or Barak.

  59. 59.

    Gelfling 545

    @Betty Cracker: its more like he’s a geiger counter for fecal matter. He seeks them out – like calling to like. What’s most amazing is that he has not found someone even by accident who is marginally competent and even borderline ethical when left to his own devices.

  60. 60.

    Chet Murthy

    @TenguPhule: Well, actually, no. I can hate Devos, but even she hasn’t (ahem) risen to the levels of flagrant illegality, bad judgment, and all-around ass-hole-ish-ness, of just this guy Jackson. And Jackson isn’t the worst.

    I -get- that politically she’s a wrecking-ball, and evil as all-get-out. But (as many have pointed out) it’s that they’re so incompetent at being evil, so incompetent at simply existing on the planet that shocks.

  65. 65.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Chet Murthy:

    But first, it’s men.

    Only by coincidence, because there are far less women in Trump’s orbit. The man is disgustingly, overtly misogynistic. He doesn’t trust women in positions of power, and only a few in positions of being his direct sidekick. There just aren’t many getting the chance to prove how corrupt they are.

    EDIT – @Chet Murthy:

    I can hate Devos, but even she hasn’t (ahem) risen to the levels of flagrant illegality, bad judgment, and all-around ass-hole-ish-ness, of just this guy Jackson.

    Given DeVos’s history of pushing policies of bigotry in schools, literally not knowing the slightest thing about her job, and bragging about how she bought her way to power, I think she’s much worse than Jackson in every department.

  66. 66.

    TenguPhule

    @Chet Murthy:

    but even she hasn’t (ahem) risen to the levels of flagrant illegality, bad judgment, and all-around ass-hole-ish-ness, of just this guy Jackson.

    That we know of. Yet.

  68. 68.

    debbie

    @Aleta:

    Good god, that’s an ugly dress! And exactly the wrong shoes to wear with it! Coco Chanel is barfing rivers of polyester.

  69. 69.

    Stuart Frasier

    The craziest thing about this administration is that it makes me believe things that I would have previously dismissed as conspiracy theory. I’m now a Girther, as well as a Peeliever.

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