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I started to write a post about Roseanne Barr’s racist as fuck tweets and Disney/ABC’s horrible decision not to fire her racist ass immediately. But then there’s other news, such as Trump’s ridiculous lies this morning about the Mueller team trying to throw the midterms to the Democrats, the Supreme Court decision that will allow wingnut states to drive more abortion providers out of practice and the new report about the death toll of Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico: 4,645 killed. And it’s barely past noon.

I want another long weekend to begin right now. Open thread.

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  1. 1.

    JPL

    Wanda Sykes just left the Roseanne show. I didn’t know she was on the show, but good for her.
    The Supreme Court is taking away a safe form of early abortion, and that should horrify us.
    Also the weather sucks, and I blame everyone.

  2. 2.

    JPL

    WASHINGTON – The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is proposing a rule to end a program that allows certain foreign entrepreneurs to be considered for parole to temporarily come to the United States to develop and build start-up businesses here, known as the International Entrepreneur Rule (IE Final Rule).

  3. 3.

    MisterForkbeard

    Remember, it’s not really racist when a Trump Supporter does it. Especially when that Trump Supporter makes the company money by being racist and attacking liberals.

    I hadn’t heard about the new Supreme Court decision. That’s both stupid AND depressing.

  4. 4.

    VeniceRiley

    Westcoaster here. I just saw the headline Rosanne apologized for her racist …. and I haven’t even caught the original offense yet. Such is west life. Ana yay for Wanda. I heart Wanda. Wanda forever.

  5. 5.

    Baud

    While the Supreme Court’s refusal to hear the case is not good for Arkansas clinics, it’s not a decision that is precedent. And my limited understanding of the case is that there were procedural reasons why the Supreme Court would not take it.

  6. 6.

    SFAW

    Pet peeve: calling Pizzagate a “baseless conspiracy theory” is bullshit. It was a fucking LIE, you candy-assed motherfuckers, foisted on the public by a bunch of lying right-wing nut jobs.

    Assholes.

  7. 7.

    Bobby Thomson

    Gilbert, Metcalfe, and Anderson have a lot to answer for. Never expected more from Roseanne but she’d still be where-are-they-now without them.

  8. 8.

    Betty Cracker

    @JPL: Just saw the news about Sykes. She was apparently a head writer on the show. Good for her for quitting.

    Disney/ABC should have never rebooted the show around that racist kook in the first place. Hopefully they’ll do the right thing and boot her sorry ass now.

  11. 11.

    Joey Maloney

    I’m already looking forward to Roseanne endlessly whining about how she’s been victimized by the George SJWoros worldwide conspiracy.

  12. 12.

    geg6

    ABC/Disney need to shut that stupid beyotch up. I’m about to really sacrifice and refuse to ever patronize anything they touch or is associated with them forever if they don’t fire her. And for a Star Wars fanatic who hasn’t yet seen Solo, that’s pretty telling as to how pissed off I am.

  13. 13.

    scav

    Let us glory in and reflect on all the above-mentioned facets of Les Trumpenists vision of Returning ‘Merican Greatness that all those dead veterans are so very proud to have died for (with Trump as Their Sole and Unique Deliverer).

  15. 15.

    David Anderson

    Looking forward to a the instant DiD experts to emerge on Twitter re the Harvard study

  16. 16.

    SFAW

    @SFAW:
    Since FYWP won’t let me edit my own comment:

    The “Pizzagate” comment was because, if I read the linked article correctly, The Vile Piece Of Shit Formerly Known As Roseanne is apparently still pushing it. TVPOSFKAR is doing its damnedest to try to out-vile the Lying Deadbeat in Chief.

  19. 19.

    bystander

    But Roseanne’s First Amendment rights! Also, she is commenting on someone else’s physical appearance?

    This unfortunately is making me not like Laurie Metcalfe or John Goodman. I never worked for anyone who made such vile comments. Why do they? And I loved Metcalfe in Three Tall Women, but can’t believe she needs this gig that much.

  20. 20.

    The Red Pen

    This bullshit will continue until we do what we have to do: fight centrists and “corporate Dems.”

    In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.

  21. 21.

    Betty Cracker

    @Bobby Thomson: Goodman too, and I love him. They should kill Roseanne’s character off and call the show “Dan.” But seriously, if she gets away with this shit, that’s another line erased.

  22. 22.

    Kay

    People knew she was horrible before Trump, though, right? My sense of her was always that she’s legitimately unstable.

    I think some comics can use that and create something new or original out of it, but hers always had such a mean edge it just didn’t appeal to me at all. Like someone you would back away slowly from, not knowing when they’ll spew acid.

    I mean, the big laugh line in the new show was when she manhandles her grandaughter. It’s like some awful caricature of a hillbilly. Hillbillies should be insulted. Why is this person making a living acting like some awful, stylized version of people she has nothing to do with?

  24. 24.

    bemused

    @Betty Cracker:

    I just knew Rosanne would self-destruct, racist trumpette and all, and her show will go down too.
    It’s beyond infuriating that sleazy, amoral degenerates trump, his administration and GOP still exist.

  25. 25.

    scav

    @bystander: Well, you should also reconsider the platform that is enabling (for profit!) the widespread distribution of her viewponts. Who is the Leader of the Club?!

  26. 26.

    Baud

    @Kay: My guess is that people hoped she would shut up and be happy raking in the money from the reboot.

  28. 28.

    zhena gogolia

    @Kay:

    I haven’t watched a second of the new show, but her character on the old show was charming and funny. Back then I was able to separate the character from the obviously disturbed person. But she’s really losing it now.

  29. 29.

    bystander

    @zhena gogolia:

    Uh, if the Holocaust cookies didn’t do it…

    I’m glad I don’t know to what that refers, but I’m hoping it’s about facebook’s invasion of privacy.

  30. 30.

    Betty Cracker

    @zhena gogolia: I think she got away with that because she’s Jewish herself and was claiming she was being edgy in a publication noted for such stunts. There’s no way to spin calling Valerie Jarrett an ape.

  32. 32.

    germy

    Judy Tenuta is funnier than Roseanne.

    Judy had her voice and persona stolen early in her career by Barr. All Barr did was add the racism.

  33. 33.

    Roger Moore

    @Joey Maloney:
    I saw that she was repeating lies about him turning in other Jews to the Nazis for profit- as part of her apology to Chelsea Clinton for claiming she was married to Soros’s nephew. What a total shitstain.

  36. 36.

    donnah

    As with any protest, simply not watching/attending isn’t enough. I have more than once written or emailed a business, network, or representative about something that is wrong. I don’t always get a reply, but I compose a civil but strongly worded message about why some issue is wrong and give my two cents worth. Otherwise they just pretend no one is upset.

    Speak out, speak up.

  37. 37.

    SFAW

    @Betty Cracker:

    There’s no way to spin calling Valerie Jarrett an ape.

    Or George Soros a Nazi who sold out his Jewish friends to the Nazis, so that he could take the friends’ money.

    ETA: And I see Roger Moore got there first.

  38. 38.

    Baud

    @Betty Cracker:

    Here’s some actual good news today.

    In a near-unanimous decision authored by Justice Sonia Sotomayor, the court began by making clear that the driveway where Collins’ motorcycle was parked was part of the curtilage protected by the Fourth Amendment. The court then explained that the justification for the automobile exception doesn’t consider a resident’s privacy interest in his home and its curtilage at all; rather, the rationale rests on the twin ideas that cars can easily be moved and are subject to regulation simply by virtue of being on the roads. None of the Supreme Court’s cases, the court continued, indicates that the automobile exception allows a police officer to enter the home or its curtilage without a warrant to search a vehicle – if anything, the court has emphasized the need to treat “automobiles differently from houses.” “Given the centrality of the Fourth Amendment interest in the home and its curtilage and the disconnect between that interest and the justifications behind the automobile exception,” the court concluded, “we decline Virginia’s invitation to extend the automobile exception to permit a warrantless intrusion on a home or its curtilage.”

    The court also rejected Virginia’s fallback argument, which would allow police officers to enter some parts of the curtilage (such as the driveway) without a warrant to search a car, but not the house or other structures inside the curtilage, such as a garage. Such a rule, Virginia suggested, would give police officers a bright line to use when determining whether they need a warrant.

    http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/05/opinion-analysis-justices-decline-to-extend-fourth-amendments-automobile-exception/

  40. 40.

    Kay

    @Baud:

    Right, Because she’s always shown such discipline and restraint. The racism is newly revealed. The nasty-crazy isn’t.

    This isn’t even original, what she’s doing. It’s like a nastier, more sophisticated version of the skits making fun of hillbillies in olde timey country music shows, except that was affectionate and authentic.

    Just another low talent climbing on the grift wagon. She better bank the money. This show isn’t going to last.

  41. 41.

    JPL

    @Roger Moore: She’s a liar. Her most vocal supporters think Kaepernick taking a knee was offensive, but Roseanne grabbing her crotch while singing the anthem was okay.

  42. 42.

    Jeffro

    17 days later, speculation about where Melania is, and why she went into hiding in the first place, seems to be speeding up a bit.

    Ye gods. If Michelle Obama or Bill Clinton went to the hospital, then ducked out of sight, we’d have been hearing about it on Day Two.

  43. 43.

    PST

    I can’t say that Barr’s apology is WORSE than the insult, but it is disgusting in the way she frames her offensive remark to help set up a defense. She says:

    I apologize to Valerie Jarrett and to all Americans. I am truly sorry for making a bad joke about her politics and her looks. I should have known better. Forgive me-my joke was in bad taste.

    To call one of the oldest racist tropes in the book a “bad joke about her politics and her looks” invites her supporters to say, “How is this any different than what Michelle Wolf said about Sarah Sanders’s politics and looks.” Preposterous, of course, but it gives them a fig leaf. Likewise making this a matter of “bad taste” rather than racism. Sort of like, “Oops, I said the n-word in mixed company. My bad!”

  45. 45.

    germy

    Her entire shtick — from her stand up to her show — is that she happens to be a normal, regular white woman. Quick-witted, observant, funny, and (now) powerful, also. But the normal, regular white woman thing is her base thing. And the election proved, quite demonstratively, that normal, regular white women are Trump supporters. Expecting her to be anything else is like expecting to be able to breathe underwater.

    Her defense of Trump is what you’d expect from a normal, regular white woman with her power and platform. As is her regular attacks on Barack Obama and her tweets about Valerie Jarrett, for which she has now apologized for. She is a tiger gone tiger.

    And because she’s a normal, regular woman who is also white, she will continue to be defended. Excuses will continue to be made for her. Opportunities will continue to exist. Chances will continue to refresh. Consequences will continue to be a thing that other people have to deal with, like consequences are seasonal allergies.

    But who knows? Maybe I’ll be surprised.

    https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.com/roseanne-barr-is-a-white-woman-1826389403

  48. 48.

    CliosFanboy ne Woodrowfan

    @bystander: she was dressed as Hitler, pulling a tray of cookies shaped like little Jews out of an oven as if it were a cooking show….

  51. 51.

    Humdog

    Hey Betty, I love your dog pics where you can tell they are searching for sun after the rains. Dear old Daisy may like one of the new outdoor dog beds I bought. It is very soft feeling but it allows rain to run right through it because it is not padded. I can find the name if you need a bed that looks like it can survive all your rain.

  53. 53.

    Kay

    Wanda Sykes
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    I will not be returning to @RoseanneOnABC.

    That’s all one can do. Act according to conscience and let the chips fall. If there are a lot of boycotters it will harm Barr’s career and if there aren’t, it won’t.

  54. 54.

    Betty Cracker

    @Humdog: That would be great — I was just thinking earlier today it would be nice to have outdoor dog beds for the mutts, but I wasn’t sure that was a thing…

  55. 55.

    germy

    Give Wanda her own ABC sitcom. Give her complete creative freedom with it. She can write and produce and hire co-writers she respects.

    Give her roseanne’s old timeslot.

    And roseanne can tour the U.S., doing her standup at places like The Laff Shack and Chuckles in Boise.

  56. 56.

    No Drought No More

    Trump’s remark about November’s elections is an obvious extension of McConnell’s successful Supreme Court stratagem. It amounts to the newest corkscrew twist in the republican party playbook. I assume it’s now being played in desperation by Donald Trump for no other reason than because he is desperate. Certainly that vicious little shit has never had an original thought in his entire life.

    Democratic party shot-callers would have been wise to have made it a campaign issue in 2016. I really don’t understand why it wasn’t, either.

  59. 59.

    Humdog

    @Betty Cracker: I got it thru Drs. foster & Smith. Comfy n Dry is the name and it is a nice soft foam with a washable cover. My dog that eats pillow beds is not interested in chewing it, either.

  60. 60.

    oatler.

    I predict Goodman and Gilbert quit and are replaced by James Woods and Victoria Jackson. Also predict that ABC show “The View” will not tackle the unpleasantness happening on that other ABC show.

  61. 61.

    sherparick

    @VeniceRiley: It was a “I apologize if some were offended” by “my bad joke” about Ms. Jarrett’s “politics (e.g. Muslim Brotherhood)” and Ms. Jarret’s “appearance” (she use the word “Ape.”) So, yea, it was a racist as “fuck.”

    The Puerto Rico story in incredibly sad, and reveals how much media has declined in the 13 years since Katrina since this story was so poorly covered (compare to the tweets, blogs, stories, and video coverage of a certain wedding between a B-list TV star (a nice person) and a British Aristocrat (who again appears to be a very nice person) to the coverage of Puerto Rico and all that damage and deaths.

    And the Infant in Chief loves making sure he is the center of attention – even the Media would probably ignore the Trump’s Russiagate saga for a few days if he did not tweet out an attack on a daily basis. So that keeps the infotainment industrial comple centered on him. He does understand TV and ratings, I give him that.

  62. 62.

    Brachiator

    We are in the election cycle. We have to concentrate on sane people and people we can reach.

    A “Clinton would have been worse” article recently popped up in my news feed. I didn’t even bother browsing it. Crazy people, and Bernie Bro delusional soc alists respond to Trump by retreating further into their fantasy world. I can’t be bothered.

    When Trump supporters insist that he is still their man, I might respond to a specific topic of conversation and point out how he has lied to them (tax cuts for example), and then note that they are defending a man who has told them to their face that he will fuck them over, and then I move on.

    In a sane world, ABC/Disney would cancel the Roseanne Show, because it appeals to forces which will eventually come after them. But they think that they can safely make some money off of her before The Deluge. Good luck with that.

  64. 64.

    TenguPhule

    @SFAW:

    Pet peeve: calling Pizzagate a “baseless conspiracy theory” is bullshit. It was a fucking LIE, you candy-assed motherfuckers, foisted on the public by a bunch of lying right-wing nut jobs.

    You sound shrill, which is the worst possible thing to Very Serious People. //s

  66. 66.

    catclub

    But the Supreme Court declined to accept the challenge, without noted dissent even from liberal justices who are supportive of abortion rights.

    I am puzzled, there must be something more to this.

  68. 68.

    germy

    @oatler.:

    Also predict that ABC show “The View” will not tackle the unpleasantness

    I don’t watch the view. Do they have a history of ignoring inconvenient events?

  69. 69.

    Manyakitty

    @LAO: Never stop sniffing glue during Infrastructure Week. It IS still Infrastructure Week, right?

  70. 70.

    guachi

    @Baud: I look up “curtilage” in Wikipedia as I’d forgotten what the word meant exactly in a legal context and Wikipedia already has a line added regarding this case.

  74. 74.

    Citizen Alan

    @Kay:

    I agree about her obvious instability, but that seems to be par for the course among American comedians. I said 4 years the one of the big differences between the US and Great Britain is demonstrated by our comedians. American comedians always seem to be mental cases who are working out there psychological problems through comedy. The British comedians, on the other hand, all seemed went to Cambridge and got started in the Cambridge Footlights

  75. 75.

    zhena gogolia

    @Baud:

    What did she “pioneer”?

    ETA: Joan Rivers was a domestic goddess, Totie Fields was fat, Moms Mabley was working class.

  77. 77.

    trollhattan

    @Betty Cracker: @geg6:
    They’ll $hut it down only if it co$ts them, because it’$ a rating$ bonanza. Time to $hame her adverti$er$ becau$e nothing el$e matter$.

  79. 79.

    Manyakitty

    @Betty Cracker: Exactly. I’m Jewish, I thought the thing with the cookies was gross and stupid, but was overall not that bothered. She seems much worse off in the last several years, however, and it makes me wonder if she’s always been such hateful garbage or if something has gone horribly wrong in her life.

  80. 80.

    Brachiator

    @PST:

    To call one of the oldest racist tropes in the book a “bad joke about her politics and her looks” invites her supporters to say, “How is this any different than what Michelle Wolf said about Sarah Sanders’s politics and looks.” Preposterous, of course, but it gives them a fig leaf.

    No comparison at all. The Wolf’s joke was crafted to specifically NOT be about Sarah Sanders’ looks.

    I got no patience with these people. None.

    @germy:

    Fake News…I was never the head writer. I was a “Consulting Producer.”

    I also had seen “head writer.” Greatly appreciate the clarification.

  81. 81.

    Baud

    @zhena gogolia:

    Summary FTA

    In the late 1980s and early 1990s, the Emmy Award-winning actress Roseanne Barr starred in the popular and groundbreaking show on television titled simply “Roseanne,” the first TV series to openly advocate for gay rights. “Roseanne” featured one of the first lesbian kisses on TV, in an episode when Roseanne kisses Mariel Hemingway. “Roseanne” was also the first sitcom to ever feature a gay marriage. The series tackled other controversial topics, as well: poverty, class, abortion and feminism. From her open support of unions in earlier shows to her tribute to Native Americans toward the end of the series, Roseanne never shied away from contentious issues. The writer Barbara Ehrenreich once praised Roseanne Barr for representing “the hopeless underclass of the female sex: polyester-clad, overweight occupants of the slow track; fast-food waitresses, factory workers, housewives, members of the invisible pink-collar army; the despised, the jilted, the underpaid.” We play excerpts from the groundbreaking sitcom and speak with Barr about her childhood in Utah, where she was raised half-Jewish and half-Mormon, and talk about how she “made it OK for women to talk about their actual lives on television.”

  82. 82.

    zhena gogolia

    @Brachiator:

    But as the responses to her tweets say, she is playing into DJT’s hands by using the despicable term “fake news.”

  83. 83.

    oatler.

    @germy: I don’t know that myself but both shows are in the ABC family, and the Family takes care of its own.
    UPDATE: The View is on right now and no mention of “Roseanne”.just ragging on Trump’s ugly tweets.

  86. 86.

    Another Scott

    @JPL: Be suspicious of “obvious” conclusions about the merits when this SCOTUS has a unanimous opinion/decision/lack-of-action. Would Notorius RBG really gut abortion rights? Really?!?

    SCOTUSBlog:

    Amy Howe Independent Contractor and Reporter

    Posted Tue, May 29th, 2018 12:22 pm

    Justices stay out of Arkansas abortion case

    The Supreme Court issued orders this morning from the justices’ private conference last week, and the big news out of today’s order list was what the justices did not do: They did not add any new cases to their merits docket for next term, and they did not ask the U.S. solicitor general to weigh in on any cases. They also did not act on several of the high-profile petitions that they have considered at several conferences in recent weeks. And perhaps most significantly, they did not intervene in a challenge to an Arkansas law regulating medication abortions – that is, abortions performed in early pregnancy by administering drugs, rather than surgically.

    The Arkansas law at issue requires doctors who prescribe abortion-inducing drugs to have an agreement with another doctor who will agree to handle emergencies and has privileges to admit patients to a nearby hospital. The lawsuit was filed by Planned Parenthood, which runs reproductive-health clinics in Fayetteville and Little Rock that provide (among other things) medication abortions. Planned Parenthood says that it could not find a doctor willing to enter into the agreement required by the law; as a result, it contends, if the law goes into effect, it will not be able to provide medication abortions at its clinics and the state would have “only one remaining abortion provider.”

    A federal district judge temporarily barred the state from implementing the law, but the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 8th Circuit reversed. It ruled that the law cannot be blocked without “concrete district court findings estimating the number of women” who would either postpone the procedure or pass it up altogether.

    Planned Parenthood asked the Supreme Court to intervene, telling the justices that the Supreme Court’s abortion cases do not call for the kind of showing that the 8th Circuit required. Indeed, Planned Parenthood suggested, the 8th Circuit’s decision is so plainly wrong that the Supreme Court could reverse it without seeking additional briefing and oral argument on the merits.

    But today the justices denied Planned Parenthood’s petition for review without comment, after considering it at only one conference. There is no way to know why the justices declined to step in, but the preliminary nature of the proceedings may have played a role.

    The justices once again did not act on another case involving abortion: Azar v. Garza, in which the federal government has asked them to nullify a ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit that cleared the way for a pregnant teenager to obtain an abortion. The justices have now considered the case at over a dozen conferences – and at nine conferences since receiving the lower-court records in late February.

    The justices will meet for their next conference on Thursday, May 31; we expect orders from that conference on Monday, June 4, at 9:30 a.m.

    This post was originally published at Howe on the Court.

    (Emphasis added.)

    The SCOTUS usually (with notorious exceptions) doesn’t like taking cases until they have finished with their paths at lower levels.

    I trust the women on the court. They must have had a reason for going along with not trying to throw out these horrible laws at this time.

    My $0.02.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  87. 87.

    JPL

    @germy: Wanda’s appeared on several shows. She was on The New Adventures of Old Christine with Julia Louis Dreyfus. Of course we know that Dreyfus went onto other ventures.

  88. 88.

    SFAW

    @TenguPhule:

    You sound shrill, which is the worst possible thing to Very Serious People. //s

    I’ll try to type in a lower register from now on.

  89. 89.

    MattF

    I’m hoping that the Rothschilds can arrange for continually miserable weather in Barr’s immediate vicinity. I’ll send them a J-gram right away.

  90. 90.

    TenguPhule

    @LAO:

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.

    Its Infrastructure week. The Administration plans to build towers of bullshit all week.

  91. 91.

    germy

    @Brachiator:

    No comparison at all. The Wolf’s joke was crafted to specifically NOT be about Sarah Sanders’ looks.

    I still wonder if people thought Michelle said “fat” instead of “facts” during her monologue.

    But then it occurs to me that the people most outraged by her monologue don’t really give a shit about civility; they’re just weaponizing our own decency against us.

  92. 92.

    The Moar You Know

    Amy Goodman doesn’t once mention the word “Trump” in her interview.

    @Baud: That’s because the interview was in 2011. Damn. Does no one here read?

  93. 93.

    trollhattan

    @SFAW:

    I’ll try to type in a lower register from now on.

    That’s what the foot pedals are for.

  94. 94.

    TenguPhule

    Mnuchin said no trade wait with China last week.

    This week, Trump decided that we will have a trade war with China. No fooling this time.

  95. 95.

    germy

    @JPL:

    Of course we know that Dreyfus went onto other ventures.

    Yes, I just found out she’ll be winning the Mark Twain Prize.

  98. 98.

    Aleta

    Apologies are part of her shtick. Just before her latest one (for VJ) and sign off, she retweeted someone saying BLM and Ant ifa are fronts for Soros. Her feed is a billboard to gotv for T. and she uses insults to flash lights around it. I begin to wonder if she’s paid by the R convention slush fund.

  99. 99.

    Mandalay

    A reporter on CNN just said that Barr’s tweets “seem to have gone further than before”.

    What the hell possesses someone to choose to use the word “seem”? Does CNN want to claim that Barr’s tweet likening a black woman to an ape is not objectively worse than anything Barr has tweeted before, so weasel words must be used?

  100. 100.

    TenguPhule

    @Kay:

    People knew she was horrible before Trump, though, right?

    Prior to Trump ruining everything for everyone, horrible people on TV were considered funny.

    Or so I heard.

  101. 101.

    TenguPhule

    @Kay:

    This isn’t even original, what she’s doing. It’s like a nastier, more sophisticated version of the skits making fun of hillbillies in olde timey country music shows, except that was affectionate and authentic.

    It always sounds better in the original German.

  102. 102.

    TenguPhule

    @Mandalay:

    What the hell possesses someone to choose to use the word “seem”?

    Four years in journalism college courses and a brain uninterested in common grammar.

  103. 103.

    Brachiator

    @zhena gogolia:

    But as the responses to her tweets say, she is playing into DJT’s hands by using the despicable term “fake news.”

    Or she is taking the phrase back. The main point is, she corrected the inaccuracy, and I also hear that she is no longer working on the show.

    People need to put this stuff into perspective.

    @germy:

    I still wonder if people thought Michelle said “fat” instead of “facts” during her monologue.

    No. Trumpers who parrot his insults and defend his abuses tried to create a distraction, and largely failed.

  104. 104.

    Just One More Canuck

    @TenguPhule: I want to time travel forward to February 2021, so I can read about how horrible President Baud has been in his first two weeks in office

  105. 105.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    Rep. Diane Black (R-TN), a candidate for governor of Tennessee, says that pornography is a “big part” of the impetus for school shootings, along with violent movies, “idle hands” and the “deterioration of the family.”

    So the Republicans have gone to school shootings are caused by masturbation. They will take their cold dead hands off of their own junk before their guns.

  106. 106.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @JPL: Good for her! I love Wanda Sykes work, but I also love that you see her on the street here every once in awhile. Apparently she either lives here in the Philly burbs or has some connection to this area, because you see her in the local shops and she did at least one community theater performance.

    I promise you all that I play it cool and don’t do any stalkery-fan stuff, or even stare menacingly.

  107. 107.

    trollhattan

    Where in the everloving fuck this this part of her tweetSturm come from?

    “Sorry to have tweeted incorrect info about you! I Please forgive me!” Roseanne shot back. “By the way, George Soros is a nazi who turned in his fellow Jews [to] be murdered in German concentration camps & stole their wealth-were you aware of that? But, we all make mistakes, right Chelsea?”

    After several hours of retweeting similarly far-right commentary about the Clintons and Jarrett, Barr finally changed her tune, writing: “I apologize to Valerie Jarrett and to all Americans. I am truly sorry for making a bad joke about her politics and her looks. I should have known better. Forgive me-my joke was in bad taste.” She did not apologize for the false comments about Soros.

    Is this a standard RW meme I’ve previously missed? (BTW, Soros was born in 1930 so must have been an awfully young Nazi wealth thief.)

  108. 108.

    TenguPhule

    @Betty Cracker:

    Also, the stock market is tanking!

    That would be Trump announcing the whole Trade War thing with China, Mexico and Canada.

  110. 110.

    Mike J

    Barr also called Susan Rice an ape. What is it about Susan Rice and Valerie Jarret? If only we could figure out what they have in common.

  111. 111.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    Huh. Having weird symptoms this morning in Firefox. Everything seems OK till I hit the “Post Comment” button, then it never posts. Based on the status bar it seems to be in some sort of infinite HTML loop. “Waiting for pagead2.googlesyndication.com, waiting for something.msdn.net, waiting for (about 3 other things that are flashing by too quick to read)”

    That has happened now 3 times this morning.

    This is from Safari, where everything seems to be normal. P.S. I’m on a MacBook. Safari’s on the same MacBook.

    I’ve been pretty loyal to Firefox but it’s had a lot of weird problems lately.

  112. 112.

    burnspbesq

    @Baud:

    True enough, but the Eighth Circuit decision dissolving the temporary injunction was utter bullshite.

    Back to the district court for discovery, then cross-motions for summary judgment. Meanwhile, women suffer needlessly, and won’t punish Republicans who cause their suffering, because who the fuck can explain why.

  113. 113.

    MattF

    @TenguPhule: It would be nice if Wall Street started having second thoughts about Trump, but that hasn’t happened. Maybe in the not-so-distant future, though– particularly if Trump ever actually has an economic policy, rather than just ‘chaos in my wake’.

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    JPL

    ABC News (app) has the AP article addressing Barr’s comments and it includes stating that there has been no comment from ABC.
    hmm
    All of the comments by Barr were offensive and if I were Soros, I’d sue her for libel.

  115. 115.

    Jeffro

    @TenguPhule:

    Mnuchin said no trade war with China last week.

    This week, Trump decided that we will have a trade war with China. No fooling this time.

    He’s just trying to look tough so Congress will back off the ZTE issue, so that Trumpov’s Chinese-financing-backed hotel deal in Indonesia

    #1 post-Trumpov priority: law mandating full public disclosure of all presidential/senatorial/congressional candidates’ full tax returns for at least a decade prior to declaring candidacy. No exceptions.
    #2 post-Trumpov priority: law mandating all assets and business interests be put in a true blind trust post-election/pre-swearing in, not revocable (or whatever the term is) until X years after president/senator/congressperson leaves office

  116. 116.

    JPL

    @Jeffro: If democrats get control of the house, then they could pass a law stating that candidates must release their tax returns.

  120. 120.

    The Moar You Know

    If democrats get control of the house, then they could pass a law stating that candidates must release their tax returns.

    @JPL: They sure could. Then said law would go to the Senate and quietly die, as does much legislation. No need for Preznit Carrotface to even soil his hands with a veto Sharpie.

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    Chyron HR

    @No Drought No More:

    They did. Your Revolution responded with outraged howls that you wouldn’t give in to the “corporatist Democratic establishment’s blackmail”.

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    Brachiator

    @Jeffro:

    Mnuchin said no trade war with China last week.

    This week, Trump decided that we will have a trade war with China. No fooling this time.

    Remember, this is not chaotic bullshit, it is a hard-nosed winning negotiating style.

  125. 125.

    Calouste

    @Quinerly: I take that to mean that ABC has lawyers reviewing her contract to determine what the impact of canceling the show would be.

  127. 127.

    Planetpundit

    SCOTUS news is horrific. the Wingnut Hail Mary option of throwing as many vile abortion bans into the end zone paid off with a TD.

  130. 130.

    JPL

    @Quinerly: Well it appears that ABC might have suggested that move. It doesn’t change the fact that the problem is Roseanne not twitter.

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    trollhattan

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:
    I have to believe she lifted the Soros as Nazi collaborator business from RW talking points. Curious as to the actual “source.” Did he join the Poland invasion at age 9?

  133. 133.

    JPL

    I’m going to post this again, because there is absolutely no reason for this action.

    WASHINGTON – The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is proposing a rule to end a program that allows certain foreign entrepreneurs to be considered for parole to temporarily come to the United States to develop and build start-up businesses here, known as the International Entrepreneur Rule (IE Final Rule).

    https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/humanitarian-parole/dhs-proposes-remove-international-entrepreneur-rule?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosprorata&stream=top

  135. 135.

    Kay

    @Citizen Alan:

    For it to be funny for me it has to be true. It’s an original take on something people know and recognize. That’s why we laugh.

    I don’t think Roseanne tells the truth. Valerie Jarret doesn’t look like an ape and Obama wasn’t in a Muslim group.

    To contrast, Huckabee Sanders does lie all the time and she wears eye shadow and (many) women recognize “smoky eye” as the sort of bullshit we’re sold by the beauty industry, which makes it funny. I knew immediately what it meant. A lot of beauty marketing is funny and we’re all familiar with it. It’s a commonality thing, not a divisive “I’m a racist” thing.

  138. 138.

    Aleta

    Word is that Roseanne has been cancelled. Sykes says she was not a writer, but a produced.

  139. 139.

    Josie

    ABC just announced it has cancelled Roseanne’s show.

    ETA: Beat to the punch by faster typists.

  141. 141.

    TenguPhule

    @Brachiator:

    We have to concentrate on sane people and people we can reach.

    I hate to tell you this, but we need a majority.

  145. 145.

    Shell

    How does anyone with two brain cells think calling any black person a ‘monkey’ could be excused as some kind of joke?

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    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @GregB: I always thought Roseanne was a horrible boor.

    She was. Sort of. Her shtick when she started in standup and when I first started hearing about her, was “trailer-trash mom”. Not glamorous. Not polite. I never saw more than 1 or 2 episodes of the old show but I understand the tone was overtly rude and low-class, but underneath it loving and full of humor and warmth. So for instance if Mom said “I’m going to take your lip and sew it to the top of your head”, everybody just laughed.

    I gather she kind of lost the “humor and warmth” part over the years.

  149. 149.

    germy

    Cancelled

    Laugh Out Fucking Loud.

    Who could've possibly known Roseanne would be racist online, you know, except literally any person who's been online in the last 10 years?— Mike Drucker (@MikeDrucker) May 29, 2018

  152. 152.

    Kay

    @Citizen Alan:

    I don’t even think she’s convincing in the character she plays, which is her idea of “everywoman”. I actually would go further- I think it has an edge of contempt for the people she’s caricaturing, much worse than any liberal might do.

  154. 154.

    TenguPhule

    @JPL:

    because there is absolutely no reason for this action.

    You’re wrong.

    There is a perfectly good reason for this action: Fascism.

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    Mandalay

    @Jeffro:

    law mandating full public disclosure of all presidential/senatorial/congressional candidates’ full tax returns for at least a decade prior to declaring candidacy. No exceptions.

    Well I’m not sure that demanding a return for the prior tax year is always feasible, but I’m with you in principle.

    But Cynthia Nixon’s position during her recent run was ridiculous: “some third-party screw up is preventing me from releasing my 2017 return so you get absolutely nothing from me”. She could have gratuitously released summary information for her 2017 return, or her full 2015 and 2016 returns to show that she was on the level, but apparently that was a bridge too far for her.

    And regardless of any new laws, Democrats need to start pounding the message that candidates who don’t want to release their returns are unpatriotic, and from the same gene pool as necrophiliacs and child molesters. Unless something is done I anticipate Bernie Sanders proudly running again as a Democrat in 2020, with a gazillion explanations and excuses prepared for why his tax returns can’t be made public.

  162. 162.

    Spanky

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    Hangs on everything or just on BJ?

    I had I think 5 tabs open, and they all hung. But I always figured only one was causing that, although I have nothing to back up that idea.

  163. 163.

    MattF

    @JPL: I think Barr will crater and implode all on her own, regardless of Twitter, or ABC, or George Soros. Just give her enough room, and there’ll be Rosanne-debris all over the place– she’s that dish- of-the-day now, with a special topping of loss of self-control.

  164. 164.

    VeniceRiley

    A GBCW, or is it GBCT? tweet from Roseanne

    I apologize. I am now leaving Twitter.
    Roseanne Barr (@therealroseanne) May 29, 2018

  165. 165.

    MisterForkbeard

    @zhena gogolia: Basically? Republicans convinced the media that they were following a laughable “Joe Biden” rule and the media was too lazy to ever correct their mistake. Democrats DID push on this but were ignored – they kept getting asked “Well, you say that but don’t the Republicans have a point and isn’t this legal?”, and as the delay got longer and longer and the election closer the “just wait for the next president” made more common sense.

    Basically, it was a casualty of our awful fucking media who pre-emptively decided to adopt pro-republican framing and because most people assumed Hillary would win, making it a non-issue after the election was over.

  166. 166.

    J R in WV

    We, the people, don’t have much leverage against Giant Evil Corp, and it’s ABC subsidiary, but what we have is an organized boycott by the majority group of Americans. Here’s what I sent to ABC.com’s contact form just now, after picking the Roseann show as one I have an issue with, and starting with my issue in two words:

    Hate speech!

    You are presenting a “star” to the world as if she is one more actress, when in fact she is a bigoted purveyor of hate speech against Muslims, Black Americans, Democrats (who are and were a majority of voters in 7 of the past 8 presidential elections) and immigrants of all kinds.

    As of now I will not be watching ABC nor Disney movies, EXCEPT to identify ABC advertisers in order to boycott them going forward.

    Fire Roseanne “KKK” Barr Now!
    Boycott Disney ABC !

    They have a strict limit on character count, so I didn’t get flowery and detailed as I sometimes do. Also it isn’t 3 am, but I was pretty angry. Maybe if a few million people send similar emails and make phone calls, they’ll realize what a boat-anchor Ms Barr is for their brand!

    Hate Speech!!

  167. 167.

    Aleta

    Erik Loomis Mod mourjou • a day ago

    ICE operates semi-independently of presidential will. The structures of ethnic cleansing were all set up before 2016. There is however a reason that ICE agents and its union are all-in on Trump unlike any federal worker union has ever been for any president in American history.

  169. 169.

    Jeffro

    @Mandalay:

    Democrats need to start pounding the message that candidates who don’t want to release their returns are unpatriotic, and from the same gene pool as necrophiliacs and child molesters.

    I’m good with this, but it won’t fly with the Repubs…they’re ALREADY okay with child molester candidates. Ugh, these fucking people…

  170. 170.

    Brachiator

    @TenguPhule:

    We have to concentrate on sane people and people we can reach.

    I hate to tell you this, but we need a majority.

    Yawn. I’m pretty consistent here. I say go after votes. But there are clearly some in the lunatic fringe who retreat deeper into a fantasy realm as a reaction to current events. When I see someone react to Trump by more loudly insisting that “Clinton would be worse,” I know I am dealing with a person is not rational. When people want to endlessly revisit Obama’s “failings” instead of moving forward, I know that I am wasting my time.

  171. 171.

    catclub

    @chris:

    Add in the Italian crash

    if only it were an employment thing, then: “The Italian Job, Crash”

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