Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Everybody saw this coming.

I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.

Jesus, Mary, & Joseph how is that election even close?

Battle won, war still ongoing.

Republican obstruction dressed up as bipartisanship. Again.

Take your GOP plan out of the witness protection program.

I’m pretty sure there’s only one Jack Smith.

Pessimism assures that nothing of any importance will change.

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.

So many bastards, so little time.

There is no compromise when it comes to body autonomy. You either have it or you don’t.

Technically true, but collectively nonsense

When do the post office & the dmv weigh in on the wuhan virus?

Speaking of republicans, is there a way for a political party to declare intellectual bankruptcy?

Something needs to be done about our bogus SCOTUS.

Democrats have delivered the Square Deal, the New Deal, the Fair Deal, and now… the Big Joe Biden Deal.

Thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege.

JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?

Optimism opens the door to great things.

The revolution will be supervised.

Republicans can’t even be trusted with their own money.

Some judge needs to shut this circus down soon.

Perhaps you mistook them for somebody who gives a damn.

Jack Smith: “Why did you start campaigning in the middle of my investigation?!”

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Stephen Miller positive:

Trump senior adviser Stephen Miller became the latest White House staffer to test positive for COVID-19 late Tuesday. Miller said he tested positive after repeatedly testing negative, raising concerns there may be many more within the president’s orbit unknowingly carrying the virus even as they report testing negative.

“Over the last 5 days I have been working remotely and self-isolating, testing negative every day through yesterday,” Miller said in a statement. “Today, I tested positive for COVID-19 and am in quarantine.”

Thoughts and Prayers… for the virus.

*** Update ***

I really should read my own fucking blog.

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  2. 2.

    r€nato

    Covid has come down with Stephen Miller, thoughts and prayers for Covid.

    I bet Miller did nazi that coming.

  4. 4.

    Calouste

    Biden is saying that if the shitgibbon is still positive by the time of the next debate, it should be canceled.

  7. 7.

    way2blue

    I hope Biden continues to get tested via the (more accurate) PCR method over the next few days. I worry that he isn’t ‘out of the woods’ yet.

  14. 14.

    Ken

    @Immanentize: I certainly don’t read the blog. I just skim the posts and comments to find things I can comment on.  It’s like those whatchamacallits, people do them… conversations, where the other person is flapping their mouth while you’re thinking of what to say.

  17. 17.

    jl

    @Steeplejack (phone): Thanks. Somehow The Onion keeps itself alive.

    Rudy Giuliani Tests Positive For Slew Of Obscure Bat Diseases Unrelated To Covid-19

    https://www.theonion.com/rudy-giuliani-tests-positive-for-slew-of-obscure-bat-di-1845255014

    Some commenter said Giuliani was coughing up a storm on Fox News. I hope he stays healthy so people can send this link around. Edit: I don’t want the joke to be ‘too sooned.’

    @MomSense: I’m crossing my fingers for him to stay healthy. If he is the only healthy Trumpster confidant surrogate left, that would be great in so many ways. We can’t lose Rudy!

  18. 18.

    Sab

    I managed to sprain my thumb cooking! Lifted too big a pot with the non-dominant hand. It hurt a lot yesterday. I taped it up in an Ace bandage last night. Okay now, but hurt this morning.

    I feel for cats and squirels and dogs. Life sucks without two opposable thumbs.

  19. 19.

    Mike in DC

    @Calouste:

    That should be a no-brainer.  I mean, he may still even be symptomatic on the 15th or the 22nd.  Of course, without the debates, Trump is basically dependent upon outside circumstances to give him any kind of chance at all.

  26. 26.

    Calouste

    @dmsilev: 
    I’m wondering whether the statement was intended to solicit a reaction from the braying pumpkin along the lines of “I’m not sick!!” when it’s going to be obvious in a few days that he still is.

  28. 28.

    rikyrah

    "It's incredibly selfish of older people or neurotic people who are timid & afraid & won't come out of their basements to confine children & young people to miss out on the most important part of their lives" – Fox News is now straight up blaming old & vulnerable people for Covid pic.twitter.com/mLhiwDHmrN— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 6, 2020

  30. 30.

    dmsilev

    Today in clusterfuck news:

    White House signals stronger coronavirus precautions, but Trump continues to resist

    The White House offered an informal nod to coronavirus best practices Tuesday, with mask-wearing prevalent after months of flouting public health recommendations and new internal guidelines for interacting with President Trump, who tested positive for the virus late last week. But the biggest source of resistance appeared to be Trump himself, who, despite having just come home from a three-night hospitalization, was defiant — lobbying to return immediately to work in the Oval Office, discussing an address to the nation as early as Tuesday evening and clamoring to get back on the campaign trail in the coming days.

     

    The White House really isn’t doing anything you’re supposed to be doing in these situations,” said Angela Rasmussen, a virologist on the faculty of Columbia’s Mailman School of Public Health. Rasmussen added that while she agreed with Trump’s call not succumb to fear, “we also shouldn’t not take the virus seriously just because President Trump says he feels better and is flying around on Marine One and standing on the balcony like Evita.”

     

    Public polling in recent days has painted a long uphill climb for reelection, including a CNN/SSRS poll released Tuesday showing Trump falling to 16 points behind Biden, who leads 57 to 41 percent. A GOP group working to elect Senate Republicans conducted polling over the weekend in four states — Colorado, Georgia, Montana and North Carolina — as Trump was hospitalized. The president’s numbers dropped “significantly” in every state, falling by about five points in all four.  “The president is in real trouble,” said one of the group’s operatives, who is also close to the White House.

    Many of Trump’s allies and advisers see his response to his own illness as a missed opportunity. Some had hoped that he would emerge from his hospital stay slightly humbled, with a newfound display of seriousness and empathy, and would receive a boost of public sympathy. But so far, that has not happened. Internal Republican polling has consistently shown that the coronavirus — and not taking it seriously enough — remains the president’s electoral albatross. They believe it has caused the president to lose support among senior citizens and suburban women, both key voting blocs.

  33. 33.

    Yutsano

    I think the Lincoln Project is running out of material. They already did a video targeted at Dense like this. Not that I mind the day before a debate that shouldn’t happen but shrug.

  35. 35.

    hueyplong

    @rikyrah: I saw that clip.  The Fox host tried to throw her a lifeline, something along the lines of, “Selfish? [pause] Or scared?”

    [like, pump the breaks there, that’s the quiet part said out loud]

    But the  monster wouldn’t have it.  “Selfish.”

  36. 36.

    Galento

    Anecdotal, but when I sent the Miller info (and the pic John had posted earlier) to my 81 year old mother, she asked if she could send it to my siblings. A few minutes later, she replied with this: “Your brother asked: Q: What’s the difference between a bucket of shit and a Republican?  A:. The bucket!”   My family are reliably small d Dem but not prone to making strident political statements. This is a sign of how bad things are for them. (I hope…)

  38. 38.

    Gin & Tonic

    WaPo reporting that the debate commission is installing barriers on both sides, effectively telling Pence to pound sand.

  40. 40.

    dmsilev

    @Gin & Tonic: Look, maybe we should compromise and require that Pence attend the debate in an airtight hazmat suit. He’d be allowed to bring exactly as much oxygen as was administered to Trump over the past week.

  42. 42.

    jl

    @MomSense: See? Rudy is a gift. May be hard for some commenters, but he needs to stay healthy.

    Barr has just completely disappeared though, huh? Wonder why?

  43. 43.

    RSA

    “Over the last 5 days I have been working remotely and self-isolating, testing negative every day through yesterday,” Miller said in a statement. “Today, I tested positive for COVID-19 and am in quarantine.”

    Unsurprisingly, Miller uses these two terms as if he’s totally unfamiliar with the CDC‘s definitions.

    Isolation separates sick people with a contagious disease from people who are not sick.
    Quarantine separates and restricts the movement of people who were exposed to a contagious disease to see if they become sick.

  44. 44.

    A Ghost to Most

    I hope the nazi weasel suffers

    RIP Eddie. 2020 is such an awful year, and yet, it is a year of two Drive-By Truckers’ albums, and the birth of my new mj strain.

  46. 46.

    Ken

    @Gin & Tonic: They should also enforce the testing requirement.  They could have test kits and a lab tech ready in case either of them (by which I mean Pence) doesn’t have documentation for a recent test.

  50. 50.

    dmsilev

    @Ken: As I understand it, a rapid test on-site was the plan last week as well, but Trump bypassed that by arriving late, probably deliberately.

  52. 52.

    Another Scott

    Reuters:

    Reuters/Ipsos is polling likely voters in six states – Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, North Carolina, Florida and Arizona – that will play critical roles in deciding whether Trump wins a second term in office or if Biden ousts him in the November election.

    Below is a state-by-state look at Reuters/Ipsos findings, based on the online responses of likely voters, which include responses from some who cast ballots ahead of the formal Nov. 3 Election Day, which is increasingly common due to the coronavirus pandemic:

    MICHIGAN (Sept. 29-Oct. 6):
    * Voting for Biden: 51%
    * Voting for Trump: 43%
    […]
    * 10% said they already had voted.

    NORTH CAROLINA (Sept. 29-Oct. 6):
    * Voting for Biden: 47%
    * Voting for Trump: 47%
    […]
    * 8% said they already had voted.

    WISCONSIN (Sept. 29-Oct. 5):
    * Voting for Biden: 50%
    * Voting for Trump: 44%
    […]
    * 13% said they already had voted.

    PENNSYLVANIA (Sept. 29-Oct. 5):
    * Voting for Biden: 50%
    * Voting for Trump: 45%
    […]
    * 2% said they already had voted.

    FLORIDA (Sept. 11-16):
    * Voting for Biden: 47%
    * Voting for Trump: 47%
    […]
    * 3% said they already had voted.

    ARIZONA (Sept. 11-17):
    * Voting for Biden: 47%
    * Voting for Trump: 46%
    […]
    * 3% said they already had voted.

    […]

    I assume things have gotten worse in FL and AZ since those September surveys.

    Run up the score!!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  53. 53.

    Bill Arnold

    @MomSense:

    He also seems to have outed Bill Barr as testing positive – but I’m sure they will say it was a mistake.

    That could be Bill Stepien, who is SARS-CoV-2 positive. Though why not both?

  54. 54.

    Jeffro

    @dmsilev: He had to have known he had it when he arrived for that debate.  What’s the term, legally speaking: homicidal negligence?  Attempted manslaughter?

  55. 55.

    jl

    @dmsilev: No health slump bump for Trump? Hoocuddanode?

    If the link works, here is magazine cover of Ike convalescing from a heart attack.

    https://oldlifemagazine.com/november-14-1955-life-magazine.html

    If a leader presents himself as a human being and works hard, and he doesn’t work hard at bringing the illness upon himself, and people like him, probably gets a bump.

    Or maybe the illness didn’t hurt Eisenhower because he wore those goofy 50s shirts and ties.

  56. 56.

    Bill Arnold

    @RSA:

    Unsurprisingly, Miller uses these two terms as if he’s totally unfamiliar with the CDC‘s definitions.

    It’s possible that they are doing that deliberately, or that somebody among them got them into that confusion.
    It provides ambiguity about what’s going on, which they think is desirable for them at this point in time.

  57. 57.

    Jeffro

    Btw folks even at this late date Hugh Hewitt’s latest is titled “How trumpov Has Made The Country Better Off Than It Was Four Years Ago”.

    In a just world, the WaPo would have printed it with several inches of blank space.  Alas…

    Btw I’m listening to Biden’s speech right now and wow.  As much as I would love for trumpov to fall to the much-analyzed crazification factor, I’ll settle for him getting below 40% nationally and an epic, Reagan/Mondale kind of result.  Iowa, Georgia, Texas, I’m looking at you.

  59. 59.

    brantl

    @Calouste:  Put him in a plexiglass cage, with an N95 filter on the air intake and output. It will acclimatize him for after the election. And now, snakes have to be on the lookout for Covid-19.

  60. 60.

    Jeffro

    PS  I’m seeing Biden & Co saying ‘no debate’ next week if trumpov still has Covid-19.  GOOD.  Fuck it – just punt, stay healthy, and take the win, Uncle Joe.

  61. 61.

    Ken

    @dmsilev: As I understand it, a rapid test on-site was the plan last week as well, but Trump bypassed that by arriving late, probably deliberately.

    This is why we need the League of Women Voters to take over again.  I can easily imagine the moderator sorrowfully explaining to the camera, “Our debate tonight will be delayed, since one of the candidates didn’t arrive on time…”

  65. 65.

    jl

    @Bill Arnold: “That could be Bill Stepien, who is SARS-CoV-2 positive.”

    Could be, but who else pumps out so much and such great fog of war that gently drifts like a typhoon through his own side?

  66. 66.

    Jeffro

    Oh and hey, trumpov has decided to declassify and disseminate all documents about the Russia investigation AND…AND…Hillary’s emails.

    Because you know, he was carefully looking into it these past four years but now in the past few days there’s some sort of reason he just has to blast it all out there.

    Republicans…whew…you are so incredibly going to regret not having any principles…

  68. 68.

    Ken

    @Jeffro: Or they could offer remote debates, with Trump joining from his “basement office adjacent to the medical unit” (a phrase they should repeat as often as possible while negotiating).

  69. 69.

    Bill Arnold

    @Jeffro:

    PS I’m seeing Biden & Co saying ‘no debate’ next week if trumpov still has Covid-19. GOOD

    Joe has no good reason to risk infection by an intracellular parasite known to cause lung, heart and brain damage; he is ahead.
    An I absolutely would not trust Trump’s word on tests; he has (probably, not yet proven) already tried to assassinate Biden using his own SARS-CoV-2 infected body (and loud,  unceasing talking) as a weapon.

  70. 70.

    Chief Oshkosh

    @rikyrah: Ya know, I see people like that, blaming everyone but themselves and their failed leadership for what was an avoidable living hell for the nation (and the world), and all I can think of is this scene from once upon a time in Hollywood:

    https://youtu.be/39GTH8UlXK8

  71. 71.

    r€nato

    @Jeffro: in a country that wasn’t batshit insane, Trump would be on the business end of a Mondale-style wipeout and be polling at best in the low 30s if not worse.

  72. 72.

    Jeffro

    @Ken: Maybe they could just put out competing policy statemen…hee…Hee Hee…HEEHAWLOLOLOL oh my

    Never mind.  I keep forgetting this is America and we don’t ‘do’ serious.

  74. 74.

    jl

    @satby: Eisenhower also played it pretty straight PR-wise with his bowel obstruction about a year later. If anything would give his WWII rep a run for its money, that would.

  75. 75.

    r€nato

    @Baud: good point, but of course the EC greatly magnifies differences in the popular vote total. Just ask dead Ross Perot, got a remarkable 18% of the popular vote and not one single EV. Not gonna bother looking up the last time a major party candidate lost so badly in the EC, maybe McGovern but other than him I bet you have to go back a long ways, if ever anybody has lost nearly every state without being a minor party candidate.

    Sticking with my original assertion, Mango Mussolini should be barely cracking 30% if that in a non-insane USA. Does he have to literally rape an infant in broad daylight on Fifth Avenue before the country largely agrees he’s a fucking piece of shit who shouldn’t be elected to even precinct committeeman?

  76. 76.

    PPCLI

    @Jeffro: We’ll need to demand the full, unredacted Mueller report right away! It’s declassified now, it says right there in the President’s own proclamation.

  77. 77.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @jl: There was a tweet I saw that had Giuliani’s hand visible, and somebody who said they work in a mortuary said that was not the hand of a living person.

    That was a joke of course but it was definitely not the right color for a live human limb. Some kind of serious circulatory issue there or something.

  79. 79.

    Mike in NC

    @Jeffro: Commenters as always are laying into Hewitt for being a predictable wingnut hack. At this time in 2018 he was begging people to vote Republican in spite of Trump’s awfulness. Just because.

  80. 80.

    Jeffro

    @r€nato: I have trouble thinking that half of all males (meaning a majority of white males) and a third of all women still – STILL! – support this utterly corrupt moron.

    What’d they get for it?  A brief reassurance that they’re still going to stay on top in our uniquely American caste system?

    (Yes, obviously.  Oh well, sucks to be them)

  84. 84.

    Sab

    @rikyrah: Phuck my grandkids if they feel that way. Pass their inheritance down to them, or spend it on massive Covid hospitalization bills. Gtandkids or Covid? Covid everytime.

    Have my grandkids visited me once in my Covid old people quarantine.? Came weekly to the window and waved a bunch, but does that count? Covid is here demanding attention every day.

    // Seems inappropriate. That’s what happned, but yikes. Not what we meant. Of course not. Covid, like divorce, makes you see sides of yourself you wish you hadn’t known about.

  85. 85.

    jl

    @Bill Arnold: There is also the unfortunate issue of Trump keeling over in some way (partial or total keel) due the disease, whether he still has it or not. Trump will still be convalescing in the best case.

    I’d offer a remote debate, but only if I thought Trump could get through the damn thing without going south.  Whether live or remote, no way in real time to do even those crude fourth rate edits we see in the Trump videos . Trump has to get through it without a coughing fit or worse on the first take. OTOH, I guess if he ‘roided up right before, I read that shuts down the coughing.

  86. 86.

    Chyron HR

    @Jeffro:

    Oh and hey, trumpov has decided to declassify and disseminate all documents about the Russia investigation

    I know he’s chasing the dragon hard right now but surely somewhere in that big durian of a brain he knows he’s guilty, right?

  88. 88.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    I wonder if he’ll regret this when he comes down from this steroid mania

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump · 31m

    I have fully authorized the total Declassification of any & all documents pertaining to the single greatest political CRIME in American History, the Russia Hoax. Likewise, the Hillary Clinton Email Scandal. No redactions!

  89. 89.

    Jeffro

    @Bill Arnold: oh, totally.

    Just pull out now, give the obvious and sane and right reasons for doing so, and move on.  They will lose not one single vote nationwide for doing so.

    Heck, have Senator Harris do a short presser tomorrow night instead: “Since I couldn’t safely share my ideas with the American public while on stage with Vice President Pence, I’d like to talk with you all for just a few minutes about my joy at joining this ticket and my hopes for what we’ll accomplish for the American people”

    mic. drop.

  91. 91.

    r€nato

    @Jeffro: yes, you are correct. They all think as well that they are in on the grift. They have learned nothing from Brad Parscale as well as Michael Cohen and the legions of former Trump regime lieutenants.

  93. 93.

    jl

    @Sab: That clip in and of itself would make a great oppo ad against Trump. You could just slap a hand written sign saying ‘Trump surrogate said this…” at the beginning.

  94. 94.

    Procopius

    Miller said he tested positive after repeatedly testing negative, raising concerns there may be many more within the president’s orbit unknowingly carrying the virus even as they report testing negative.

    As despicable as he is, I don’t think Stephen Miller is stupid. Deranged, deluded, crazy, but not stupid. Lots of the people who work on the White House staff must be not stupid. How can they be so ignorant as to think testing for an infection somehow protects them from being infected? All the test results (which may not be accurate) can tell them is whether they have already been infected or not.

  95. 95.

    Jeffro

    @r€nato:

     

    @Baud: …40.6% of the popular vote…which was enough for Reagan to carry 49 out of 50 states and all but 10 of the Electoral Votes back then.

    trumpov will probably pull a slightly higher % of the national popular vote and will of course do better than 10 EVs.  But we are already past Dole 1996 territory and heading towards Mondale 1984 with amazing speed.

    thank.

    god.

  98. 98.

    r€nato

    @Baud: sounds about right, too lazy to Google that shit

    EDIT: not my fault, the duplicate comment. “I take no responsibility whatsoever.”

  99. 99.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Two thoughts.

    1. His tweets about things he’s done don’t always line up with things he’s actually done. Maybe he had a dream that he did those things.
    2. Some of those things were redacted to protect sources and methods. So if he is declassifying them, he just burned more intel sources and gave more secrets to Putin. I’m sure the intelligence community is happy about that.
  100. 100.

    Jeffro

    @Chyron HR: the “CARAVANZZZZ!!!1!” drumbeat is going to be in-tense.

    Good luck with that, trumpistas…the nation has kinda caught on to how ya’ll do this.  It already did back in 2018, actually

  101. 101.

    jl

    @Procopius: More evidence that these people don’t understand how transmission control works though they had all the experts in the world on call to explain it to them. They thought all they had to do was test, and they were good as gold, could go slobber in each others’ faces and nothing would happen.

    @Procopius:  We can’t know for sure right now. I think enough intellectual incuriosity, arrogance and ignorance can substitute for a whole heap of stupid just fine. So, could be they never understood, one way or another.

  102. 102.

    West Texan 70

    @Jeffro: As an overweight, 60-year-old white guy with an Economics degree who’s lived in Texas all my life, most folks just assume I’m a trumpanzee.

    They’re often surprised by my atheism, my vegetarianism, and my teetotalism. But they’re stunned by my politics …

  104. 104.

    r€nato

    @Jeffro: kinda tired of hearing the same old refrain about the polls in 2016 and how everyone thought he couldn’t win back then. Something about not fighting the last war seems apt. This country has four years of Trump with which to judge him, that they did not have in 2016.

  105. 105.

    Jay C

    @Ken:

    Or 1820 : James Monroe ran for his second term basically unopposed. I think only one or two electors didn’t vote for him.

  106. 106.

    trnc

    @Morzer: Has anyone been following the Cal Cunningham news? It seems his affair went some way beyond silly text messages.

    Somewhat, but did anyone actually think all they did was cuddle? We need the senate so I’m going to vote for him happily and wonder how anyone could be so unbelievably stupid in at least one aspect of his life.

  107. 107.

    West Texan 70

    @Procopius: You’re right — they’re not stupid. I’ve lived among folks like him for decades. They are just terrible people who need to be kept away from all forms of power.

  108. 108.

    jl

    @r€nato: I think more and higher quality state polls this time. Cost money, but 2016 convinced polling outfits it’s worth it.

    Also, in critical swing states in the 2016 blue wall, HRC had trouble holding a lead consistently. This time in MI, WI and PA Biden has a consistent 5 points or more lead. The big danger I think is GOP attempting to stop counting with corrupt state or federal supreme courts in those states, because they don’t do anything at all with the mail in ballots before the day of the election, IIRC. I think there is a bill in PA to allow that state to process and start counting the mail-ins before election day, but probably not much hope for it.

  109. 109.

    Baud

    @trnc: From the initial reporting, which I didn’t pay that much attention to, I wasn’t even sure they had met in person.  Seemed like an online flirting thing. The story I saw tonight indicated that they only has “intimate” relations once.  Who knows? I don’t personally care, but it’s not up to me.

  111. 111.

    PPCLI

    Will there be a front-page post on the NYT article on the DOJ inspector general’s draft report about the child separation policy? That is absolutely horrifying and mustn’t be lost in the tumult of everything else that is going on. Hopefully Kamala will bring it up tomorrow night, press it home against that smarmy faux-Christian weasel.

  113. 113.

    Suzanne

    We knew COVID could infect humans, bats, dogs…. and now we know it can infect Rodents of Unusual Size.

  115. 115.

    Viva BrisVegas

    @sanjeevs: After all this time, do we yet know if all those children got back to their parents?

    Or even how many died in custody?

  116. 116.

    Jeffro

    @r€nato: Yup.  Every election is different.  Every election is ‘fought’ on new terrain, with new issues and therefore a shifting dynamic.  And yet, every election with an incumbent is first a referendum on the incumbent.

    Biden & Co have done an outstanding job on making sure people understand that 110%.  And (obviously, we all know this) at. any. point. until. frickin’. August. trumpov & Co could have turned this around by doing what was needed to help America beat down Covid-19, instead of

    • worrying about what would ‘spook’ the stock market’
    • worrying about what would look ‘unmanly’ or ‘weak’
    • worrying about the government actually doing something concrete to help its citizens

    The motherfucker blew it off, banged on the states, kept lying and denying the science all along, and just. kept. golfing.

    The somewhat amazing thing is that he’s still hovering around 40% support nationally.  The equally amazing thing is that he hasn’t been dragged by his high heels out of the WH, tarred and feathered, and sent at pitchfork-point out into the wilderness.

    (which is just fine: I don’t want to stumble across his sick, bloated, orange self while out hiking in the wilderness!)

  118. 118.

    Chetan Murthy

    @jl:  @rikyrah: JFC.  Humans, primates, many mammals are almost defined by the way we take care of our family groups.  Intergenerational sharing is part of what makes us successful as a fucking *species*.  The idea that somehow children should not give a toss what happens to their elders …. insane

    ETA: The “party of (un-fucking-believable) family values”.

  120. 120.

    r€nato

    @Jeffro: a very good friend of mine who fucking loathes Republicans with an intensity that exceeds even mine, has said over and over that if Trump had simply taken this seriously back in Feb or even March:

     

    1. the stock market would be soaring right now
    2. we would be in a similar situation to Europe, mostly having it under control
    3. Trump would be cruising to re-election

    But he is all tactics and no strategy; always going for the short-term win. Couldn’t see past his big, beautiful stock market. Couldn’t see that spring 2020 was far less important to his election prospects than fall 2020. For the second time in 20 years we are fortunate the fascists turned out to be led by an utter incompetent. Not sure we will be that lucky the next time around. Mussolini ruled for 21 years.

  121. 121.

    patrick II

    @Galento:

    My 97 year old mother had to answer a few questions by her doctor the last time she visited.

    “Who’s the President of the United States?”

    “That damned Trump.”

    She can still beat you at pinochle too.

  123. 123.

    trnc

    @Baud: I don’t care much about the relationship itself. What bothers me is the idiocy at thinking that he can keep written communications secret in The Year Of Our Hack 2020, and knowing that it could mean the difference in who controls the senate. It’s NC. Only republicans are allowed to treat their wives like shit.

  124. 124.

    Miss Bianca

    @dmsilev:

    Some had hoped that he would emerge from his hospital stay slightly humbled, with a newfound display of seriousness and empathy,  and would receive a boost of public sympathy with a complete personality transplant. But so far, that has not happened.

    Edited for clarity.

  125. 125.

    phein61

    @satby: Read David Halberstam’s “The Coldest Winter” to see how conservatives treated Ike post-WW II.  If you think right-wingers have just now become batshit crazy, you haven’t been paying attention.

  126. 126.

    r€nato

    if any of you have any interest in the AZ Senate race, Kelly and McSilly will be debating at 7pm PDT. Audio feed will be on KJZZ.org, live stream of the video feed on YouTube and Facebook. Try Phoenix’s PBS station KAET as well. (azpbs.org)

  128. 128.

    jl

    @Chetan Murthy: Did you mean to respond to someone else? I typed that it would be bad for Trump to keel over (partial for full keel) during the debate. Typing that with my gritted cracking teeth is above and beyond the call of duty in respecting my elders, IMHO.

  129. 129.

    Ken

    @jl: the giant rat of Sumatra, a tale for which the world is not yet ready.

    I have read at least four Holmes pastiches that pull that story out of Watson’s dispatch-case. Two also had Lovecraftian elements.

  135. 135.

    Bill Arnold

    Obviously it’s funny that Stephen Miller has it but he could have easily infected others. Please please please go get tested if you live in DC and own a Nazi memorabilia shop or a haunted sex doll brothel.— The Stride Piper (@nomchompsky) October 6, 2020

  137. 137.

    Suzanne

    TBH, Stephen Miller looks like that realtor from “Love It or List It”. It’s hard to tell if he wants to sell me an open concept McMansion with an en suite and bonus room or foment a white uprising. I get those confused.

  141. 141.

    Chetan Murthy

    @jl: Oh sorry, I think I meant to also reply to @hueyplong instead of to you.  The idea of children not taking care of their parents just boggles my mind.  And I’m childless.

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    geg6

    @JR:

    Heh.  Good but somewhat obscure reference.  I wrote a term paper on him for a Nazi Germany/totalitarianism class I had as an undergrad.  Scum.

  147. 147.

    mrmoshpotato

    @rikyrah: Hazmat suit – shaving cream pie infected with COVID-19 – the faces of all this FOX trash

    “Waaaaaaahhhhh!!!!! It’s so selfish that responsible adults don’t want to possibly infect children! Waaaahhhhhh!!!!!!”

  149. 149.

    Tehanu

    @Ken: @jl: the giant rat of Sumatra, a tale for which the world is not yet ready.

    The Firesign Theatre’s The Tale of the Giant Rat of Sumatra album is still pretty good. Hemlock Stones, the Great Defective…

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