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You are here: Home / Sports / Thursday Afternoon World Cup Open Thread: Japan vs Spain / Costa Rica vs Germany

Thursday Afternoon World Cup Open Thread: Japan vs Spain / Costa Rica vs Germany

by Anne Laurie|  December 1, 20221:45 pm| 43 Comments

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Japan vs Spain

Japan’s Gaku Shibasaki with the anime shin pads ?? pic.twitter.com/KsRnGIzaLw

— B/R Football (@brfootball) November 27, 2022

Spain vs. Japan at 2 PM EST on FOX ⚔️

Who ya got? 💪 pic.twitter.com/7F98R0zRpi

— FOX Soccer (@FOXSoccer) December 1, 2022



SportsMole:

Group E leaders Spain will lock horns with second-placed Japan in an intriguing 2022 World Cup contest at the Khalifa International Stadium on Thursday evening.

Both nations failed to claim maximum points in their last group game, with La Roja forced to share the spoils with Germany, while the Blue Samurai suffered defeat against Costa Rica.

After recording a shock 2-1 comeback victory against Germany in their opening Group E fixture, many tipped Japan to come away with all three points from Sunday’s clash against Costa Rica.

However, the Blue Samurai were condemned to a slender 1-0 defeat by their Central American counterparts, with Keysher Fuller scoring the decisive goal nine minutes from time to blow Group E wide open ahead of the final round of fixtures…

Spain will be confident of returning to winning ways on Thursday as they have never lost in five previous World Cup meetings against Asian opposition in 90 minutes – a penalty-shoutout defeat to South Korea back in 2002 is one small blot on their copybook.

La Roja have also won their final group fixture in eight of their last nine participations at the World Cup, with a 2-2 draw against Morocco in 2018 the only exception during this run.

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Costa Rica vs Germany

An all-female refereeing trio will take charge of the Costa Rica vs. Germany game.

Stéphanie Frappart will be joined by assistants Neuza Back and Karen Diaz.

History makers. 👏#CRC | #GER | #FIFAWorldCup pic.twitter.com/HmH8xvW8JY

— Football Tweet ⚽ (@Football__Tweet) November 30, 2022

SportsMole:

The bottom two sides in World Cup 2022 Group E prepare for a mouthwatering battle for qualification on Thursday, as Costa Rica tackle Germany at the Al Bayt Stadium.

Hansi Flick’s side left it late to rescue a 1-1 draw versus Spain last time out, while Los Ticos kept their hopes of a last-16 place alive by beating Japan 1-0.

Refusing to let the seven-goal mauling that they suffered at the hands of Spain affect them, Costa Rica dusted themselves down to meet a Japan side who had got the better of Germany only four days before, but it was the Asian nation who would be humbled this time…

Nothing less than a win will do for Germany if they are to break into the top two on Thursday, and a victory for Flick’s side coupled with a Spain win over Japan would ensure that the one-point basement side advance to the last 16.

On the other hand, should Spain and Japan play out a draw, Germany would need to win by at least two goals to pip the latter to second place, and if Hajime Moriyasu’s men can pick up a shock win over La Roja, then Flick’s men would need a five-goal swing in their favour to eliminate Spain…

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  1. 1.

    Alison Rose

    December 1, 2022 at 1:55 pm

    On one hand, it’s super cool about the all-female referee group. On the other, any grousing about bad calls is almost certainly going to be turned up to 11.

    I liked this from Costa Rica’s manager: “I am a great admirer of everything women have conquered,” he said. “And I like that they want to keep conquering things. And this is another step forward, especially in this sport, which is a very macho.”

  2. 2.

    JML

    December 1, 2022 at 2:07 pm

    Almost anything can happen with this group! I expect Spain to get a win, but i would not be shocked if Costa Rico manages to pull out a draw. but this one could be wild.

    Germany needs a win, a big one and I don’t know if they have it?

  3. 3.

    Alison Rose

    December 1, 2022 at 2:17 pm

    I’d really love to see Japan advance, hoping they can pull it off!

  4. 4.

    PAM Dirac

    December 1, 2022 at 2:51 pm

    @JML: If Spain wins, any win will do for Germany

     

    ETA: If Costa Rica gets a draw and Spain wins, then Costa Rica goes through and Germany and Japan are out.

  5. 5.

    Yutsano

    December 1, 2022 at 2:52 pm

    頑張れ日本!

  6. 6.

    hilts

    December 1, 2022 at 3:00 pm

    OT

    Jackals, spare a moment to offer some sad trombones to Chris Cilliza who got dumped by CNN

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/cnns-chris-cillizza-laid-off-in-latest-round-of-job-cuts-roiling-network/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQeezCdF4mk

  7. 7.

    trollhattan

    December 1, 2022 at 3:07 pm

    My kid would kill for those shinguards–she’s an anime freak and soccered for 14 years.

  8. 8.

    Alison Rose

    December 1, 2022 at 3:16 pm

    Eeeep, this is getting exciting now!!

  9. 9.

    Mike E

    December 1, 2022 at 3:23 pm

    I turned away from Spain winning to sign up for my 2023 ACA plan and now it’s 2-1 Japan!

  10. 10.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 1, 2022 at 3:28 pm

    WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON? COSTA RICA AND JAPAN COULD ADVANCE FROM A GROUP THAT INCLUDES SPAIN AND GERMANY!!! MADNESS!!!

    @Alison Rose:

    On the other, any grousing about bad calls is almost certainly going to be turned up to 11.

    That’s impossible, soccer players are already at 12. Fans and supporters on the other hand….

    I am still unclear how Japan’s second goal was allowed to stand, that ball was over the line. It sure as hell makes for a lot of fun, however.

  11. 11.

    PAM Dirac

    December 1, 2022 at 3:30 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: Germany came right back and leveled, but that only helps Spain at the moment.

  12. 12.

    Gin & Tonic

    December 1, 2022 at 3:32 pm

    Every time I switch games there’s a goal scored in the one I’m not watching

  13. 13.

    Alison Rose

    December 1, 2022 at 3:34 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: If you look super closely at the slo-mo, there is a smidge of the ball still on the line, and so long as even a tiny bit is in, it counts as in.

  14. 14.

    Alison Rose

    December 1, 2022 at 3:34 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Same! Makes me wish I had cable so I could be watching both.

  15. 15.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 1, 2022 at 3:39 pm

    @PAM Dirac:

    I saw it, switching back and forth, but I’ve never seen Germany so poor, so easily countered. It’ll be interesting who wins the group, because they will get Croatia while second place will get Morocco and that’s an advantage for finishing second.

  16. 16.

    cmorenc

    December 1, 2022 at 3:41 pm

    @hilts: If only the cuts at CN were to truly to cull dead-woodlike Czilla.  Alas, they also cut one of the better substantive reporters, John Harwood, and yet somehow the axe has so far spared the egregious Chuck Todd.  Czilla was irritating and inane, but it’s the likes of Todd who have contributed far more to undermine substantive journalism.

    Also, the layoffs at CN are not entirely because its current leader wants to steer the coverage several degrees rightward – it’s also because of a buyout/merger of Warner & Discovery that owns CNN saddled the parent company with lots of extra debt – a deal of the sort that Romney’s former Bain Capital firm’s specialty.  That debt did was not whatsoever incurred to invest in better journalism instead of being siphoned off into vulture capitalists’ pockets.

    So let’s don’t celebrate the dismissal of Chris Czilla too much, because it is unfortunately a side-effect of a deal that’s bad for journalism, however much Czilla’s dismissal goes to it’s benefit.

  17. 17.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 1, 2022 at 3:41 pm

    @Alison Rose:

    I still haven’t seen a replay that concludes that. I’m not mad about it at all, Japan is so much fun to watch and seeing them go through would be fantastic.

    That goal for Germany still doesn’t guarantee they go through. Hell of a finish.

    At this point, Spain has to win for Germany to go through, the goal differential is so large.

    Also, can we all agree Roberto Martinez with Belgium has been stealing a living now for 10 years?

    10 minutes of added time. Wow.

  18. 18.

    LeftCoastYankee

    December 1, 2022 at 3:43 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Every time I switch games there’s a goal scored in the one I’m not watching

    LOL.  Me too.

  19. 19.

    Mike E

    December 1, 2022 at 3:44 pm

    I don’t have cable so no FS1, and that’s why I’m watching Telemundo because they cut in with a picture in a picture of the other match when they score.

    ETA: Spain knocking on the door!

  20. 20.

    PAM Dirac

    December 1, 2022 at 3:47 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: Germany have managed to come back so that all they need now is one goal from Spain.

  21. 21.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 1, 2022 at 3:49 pm

    @PAM Dirac:

    Correct

    Japan a minute away from a remarkable result. What fun.

    There it is, what a result!

  22. 22.

    Mike E

    December 1, 2022 at 3:54 pm

    Oh no Germany!

  23. 23.

    Alison Rose

    December 1, 2022 at 3:54 pm

    JAPAN!!!!!

  24. 24.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 1, 2022 at 3:56 pm

    @Mike E:

    Oh yes. Germany, They’ve been bang average.

  25. 25.

    LeftCoastYankee

    December 1, 2022 at 3:56 pm

    Japan beat Spain and Germany, but lose to Costa Rica.  Wacky group.

    Congrats to Japan!

  26. 26.

    JML

    December 1, 2022 at 3:59 pm

    What a wild one. Spain must be wondering what the hell happened. They better not be thinking this gets them an “easier” path to the semis, because there are no easy teams in this Cup.

  27. 27.

    Alison Rose

    December 1, 2022 at 4:01 pm

    I feel bad for Germany, but also for me because they screwed my bracket :P

  28. 28.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 1, 2022 at 4:01 pm

    @JML:

    Playing Morocco instead of Croatia is very much an easier path. They still have to play the game, but the difference is very noticeable.

  29. 29.

    PAM Dirac

    December 1, 2022 at 4:02 pm

    And kudos to the officiating crew in the Germany/Costa Rica game for handling a wild emotional game with calm efficiency and competence.

  30. 30.

    Mike E

    December 1, 2022 at 4:03 pm

    I’m Croatian and I am smitten with Japan now so, mixed feelings here!

  31. 31.

    PAM Dirac

    December 1, 2022 at 4:05 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    They still have to play the game, but the difference is very noticeable.

    Maybe. Croatia is tough, but they could only score against Canada. It was a strange group because Belgium looked even worse that Germany did.

  32. 32.

    Splitting Image

    December 1, 2022 at 4:08 pm

    Definitely a changing of the guard going on at this World Cup.

    Senegal, United States, Australia, Japan, and Morocco are all through to the second round. Ghana may join them. That would make it six teams from regions other than Europe and South America. Not to mention Germany and Belgium being knocked out in the group stage and Italy missing the tournament entirely (again).

  33. 33.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 1, 2022 at 4:10 pm

    @PAM Dirac:

    Belgium looked even worse that Germany did.

    Martinez, the poor man’s Hansi Flick.

    @Alison Rose:

    I feel bad for Germany

    Never, ever, let the Krauts stew in their own juices.

  34. 34.

    PAM Dirac

    December 1, 2022 at 4:13 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    Martinez, the poor man’s Hansi Flick.

     
    LOL. I’m sure they will fail upwards somewhere. They have experience!

  35. 35.

    Kent

    December 1, 2022 at 4:14 pm

    @Splitting Image: I think the internationalization of the European pro game may be affecting the quality of the Euro national teams.  The big pro teams basically hire from across the world and show no real favoritism or development interest in their own local national players.

    Sort of like what has happened with US baseball.  Not many Black players in the game anymore because we aren’t developing Black players in little league and HS.  They are just picking them up from across Latin America and Asia.

  36. 36.

    Paul in KY

    December 1, 2022 at 4:14 pm

    A Knockout stage without either Germany, Belgium or Italy. Wonder what last time that that happened?

  37. 37.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 1, 2022 at 4:15 pm

    @PAM Dirac:

    They have experience!

    Golden generation!

  38. 38.

    trollhattan

    December 1, 2022 at 4:16 pm

    Well Spain, you still have your women’s team–clearly the better side ATM.

  39. 39.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 1, 2022 at 4:29 pm

    @Kent:

    I think the internationalization of the European pro game may be affecting the quality of the Euro national teams.

    I think it’s the fact that players from the US and Japan now almost exclusively train and play in Europe and have closed the quality gap because of that. Look at Mexico, perennial underachievers in the WC. Why? One reason is nearly all of them play in Mexico, not Europe, and it shows because they are not playing the best players at the club level. Mexican salaries are enough to keep them home.

    The Euro teams aren’t dropping in quality, the Ghanas and Senegals and Japans are catching up. Fascinating to watch, because this wasn’t the case even in 2014 or so, but it’s changed dramatically and our boys are a case in point. That’s a whole new generation of players training in Germany, England and Italy.

    And enjoy this World Cup, the expansion to 48 teams in 2026 is going to mean there will be no third game group drama like this ever again. It’s going to ruin the fun.

  40. 40.

    JR

    December 1, 2022 at 5:23 pm

    Wild to see the knockout rounds without Germany, Italy, or Mexico. When was the last time that happened?

  41. 41.

    billcinsd

    December 1, 2022 at 6:27 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: Is it? They drew, and had the same goal differential and goals scored. Morocco’s fullbacks (Mazraoui and Hakimi) are probably the best pair at the Cup. Morocco have some good strikers, too. Croatia has an excellent midfield. Croatia has a better reputation as they finished runners-up in 2018, but haven’t been better than Morocco. Croatia had more of the ball during their game with Morocco, but Morocco had more shots

     

    @HumboldtBlue:

  42. 42.

    billcinsd

    December 1, 2022 at 6:34 pm

    @JR: The last time Mexico didn’t make the knock-out rounds was 1978, if you don’t count 1990, when they were banned, and 1982 when they failed to qualify. Also the knockout rounds didn’t really become a thing until 1986.

    My guess would be 1930, when Germany and Italy didn’t go and Mexico lost of all of its first round games.

  43. 43.

    elliottg

    December 1, 2022 at 8:38 pm

    @Splitting Image: Do you think there was an effect because there was no break from league play?

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