The modern right is a lot of things, but at their core they’re filthy little pay pigs. https://t.co/9q8ODtbo2v
— Jean-Michel Connard ?? (@torriangray) April 13, 2023
Pay pig definition. Since the days of Richard Viguerie’s first mailing list, the cream of the GOP has made a very nice living for themselves by convincing its sheep voters that buying all the latest swag was the only way to really claim membership as a True Conservative. (Trump, of course, was and is a master of this particular grift; maybe that’s a part of why he was so immediately popular with the Republican ‘base’.) Perhaps it’s not surprising that it can seem like a fetish arrangement to outsiders…
Fast food Commercial: Being gay is pretty cool. And so is our new Hot Cheetos Burger
Conservative Influencer who hates himself for not fighting in an actual war: We won't forget this
— Rocking roll is here to stay (@neath_waters) April 12, 2023
so this stuff is brewed and canned in "Northern Illinois" which probably means Chicago. If we look for breweries in Chicago which have canning capabilities, and leave out the ones with less than 10 employees, we find that there are 2. One is owned by Inbev, the other by Heineken. https://t.co/qdCOgpBOIz
— your himbo boyfriend (@swolecialism) April 13, 2023
ETA:
Lol of course https://t.co/7ArnJPoy2a
— your himbo boyfriend (@swolecialism) April 13, 2023
It’s not ‘ultra-right’ until you’re violating at least one statute…
War for Ukraine Day 414: Happy Sinking of the Moskva Day To Those Who Celebrate
Steeplejack
Conservatives: grab a Shaft beer!
Jerzy Russian
Lord Jesus Christ in a crosswalk. These people are tiring. That said, it is pretty funny that that new beer is probably being brewed by (one of) the big evil companies that doesn’t even know where to piss.
Maxim
There’s a pay pig born every minute …
mvr
On the one hand it feels like the Rs are falling completely apart in transparently grabbing for whatever they can get between Justice Thomas, the 5th Circuit, Tennessee, my home state of Nebraska where it looks like guns are going to have rights, women won’t and neither will trans kids, private for profit schooling will be supported with state funds, and I’m sure I’m leaving something out. On the other hand it isn’t obvious how these decidedly awful things will be reversed despite their decided lack of popularity with sane people who are still a majority.
I guess this is what it means to live in interesting times.
TKH
@Jerzy Russian: They piss into the can, hence the taste
West of the Rockies
Oh, he’s so manly and patriotic with his baseball bat! Squee! (said no one). Of course, he stole the image from Trump using a bat to threaten Alvin Bragg. This guy sure taught that Queer beer a lesson!
Maxim
@West of the Rockies: And yet people are actually going to pay $20 for that swill. The self-owns just don’t stop.
Chetan Murthy
@Maxim: $20 for a six ? Holey moley. A six of Abbaye de Leffe is only $10 and that’s moderately premium beer!
Ruckus
@Maxim:
It’s likely brewed by whatever company now makes Bud Light and it’s the same exact beer, in a differently printed can and at a highly increased price. Making up for the lost Butt Light sales.
NotMax
Canned incel culture.
//
Maxim
@NotMax: Good one.
kalakal
The beer for the Light Supremacist.
Interesting bit of messaging, advocating giving alcohol to minors. Must be a groomer.
What a tool
NotMax
@kalakal
Chud Lite?
;)
JoyceH
@Maxim: They won’t buy it to drink. They’ll buy one six pack to display.
WereBear
@NotMax: LOVE it.
eldorado
i can’t even get mad about this
JWR
Boy, those Budweiser people sure know their marks. I wonder if those cans have the old throw-away pull tabs? Or maybe even a throw-away Church Key?
WereBear
And they say the Libs are the sensitive snowflakes. They can’t drink a beer if their Spiritual Authority doesn’t like its advertising politics.
AlaskaReader
Looking past the grifting habit that supports many right wing endeavors, I’m always disappointed that most people aren’t more discriminating with their spending.
I see what corporate entities fund projects that threaten the lives of people who are still regularly purchasing their products, thereby willingly assisting in their own destruction and I’ve heard all the excuses, it’s convenient, there’s little alternative, etc.
At times there are all too fleeting instances of effective boycotts, yes, yet, in most cases, it’s only a matter of time before the spending returns.
The majority, for some insanely baffling reason, will exert little to no effort in exercising the immense economic power they hold.
I’m in awe of people getting all giddy when some franchise or corporate boxstore announces plans to move into their neighborhoods, and I’ve never understood otherwise sane people going along with giving Walmart tax incentives to upend their historical economic base.
There are instances of corporate expansion being rejected and new corporate expansion endeavors failing, mostly in other countries where cultural identity means more than the allure of the ad campaigns.
What if your local Chamber of Commerce prioritized social justice instead of corporate profits?
What if the right lost it’s economic power to oppress their next victims?
p.a.
All the brewery needs to complete the scam is to add some camo to the can and call it ‘tactical’.
Aussie Sheila
@NotMax:
Excellent. I’m going to steal this.
Betsy
@AlaskaReader: One thing I’ve learned about this country in several decades, it’s that we must always suffer, but especially if money is at stake
lowtechcyclist
I’m sure EmptyGee’s defense of the leaker has been discussed in a previous thread, but right now I just plain can’t keep up.
But she reminds me of the fact that for the right wing in this country, and increasingly for the GOP as a whole, anything that happens outside our borders has no intrinsic meaning or importance. The people they hold up as America’s enemies are domestic – Dems, libs, Blacks, gay and trans people, undocumented immigrants, etc. And what happens outside our borders has no meaning or value to them other than to the extent it can be weaponized against their domestic enemies.
That’s where we are now.
WereBear
That is where they always have been, Isolationists in WWII. “But look! We can do bizness instead.”
AlaskaReader
@Betsy: So why the disconnect?
Why fund your own destruction?
Why try to ‘save’ if it costs you your own better interests?
People will mock those on the right who continue to vote against their own better interests, …yet, why do those who mock those voters spend their own money funding a machine actively working to destroy them?
Chasing that ‘low low price’ is not any kind of savings when you understand what it is that you’re paying for down the road in order to get that extra 2 or 3 cents off your favorite brand of cereal.
This truism is not a secret, but it continues to be willfully ignored by the very people most affected by the folly.
trnc
@TKH:
That’s true, but technically, it’s more important to piss into the fermenter. They only piss into the cans in case the ferment pisser missed it because he was busy hanging around bathrooms to check gender.
hueyplong
Seeing this thread reminded me of a time on a long road trip last January when I noticed that the pickup truck on the other side of my gas pump had one of those rolling coal stacks sticking up from the bed.
These marks can never retire because it’s fairly expensive to be a flamboyant, or shall we say, flaming, RW asshole.
trnc
@Ruckus:
That company would be Budweiser, so that would be a pretty big self-own if it were them. I doubt it.
trnc
@trnc: To clarify, I wouldn’t be surprised if the beer actually is a repackaged Bud. I just don’t think Bud is behind this. But perhaps the comments claiming it is are snark and I need more coffee.
Geminid
President Biden has begun a busy last day of his trip to Ireland. From Politico Playbook:
Sounds like decent weather at Rehoboth Beach this weekend: some thunderstorms Saturday morning, 80°s in the afternoon. Mostly cloudy and 64° on Sunday. I hope it’s a relaxing time for the President. Plenty more work starting Monday!
MisterDancer
The vast majority of people in America are not in any position to research brands and companies. It’s like my explainer on voting — a single mom with 2 kids and crap transportation options? Is likely if she gets to watch the 11 o’clock news, she’s not sitting online at this blog or any other, shes not got time for Fox News, she’s just trying to make sure her kid gets home from day care. Society has forced her into positions where assessing politics has to be by rote, or instinct, because we neither teach not promote healthy ways to do the research — much less give people like her the time to do that work in her day-to-day.
Even moreso when it comes to purchasing. We don’t teach in our schools good shopping habits to begin with, much less how to research and evaluate companies. So where do you expect the average consumer’s gonna learn all this? And given the deep divide in America’s iconic distribution, the many people on the poverty line, why the hell do you think they have the space and grace to care?
I mean, I’m a person with literally walls of non-fiction of various topics, who can speed-read a blog or 3 for lunch, and I still lack the time to discern every company’s fault. Much less have the money to always chose the most ethical source of things. I do my best, but I, too, depend on a network of people I trust for much of this — plus knowing how to check their work.
At the end of the day, it’s like me pushing back on the idea that individual effort will resolve climate issues. It helps a little, but legislative and judicial work is where the real impact must be, because individual actual rarely scales up to have the effect needed.
This is a thing for right-sized laws and regulations, not attacking individual consumers.
Geminid
@Geminid: And now I want to learn the story behind “Our Lady of Knock.” The name suggests a lot of interesting possibilities, although I expect I’ll find out that “Knock” is a place.
NotMax
@Geminid
“The President was greeted by a big set of Knockers.”
;)
lowtechcyclist
@WereBear:
Yes, there were Republican isolationists during WWII. And Robert Byrd was once a member of the KKK.
But the fact is, the GOP was entirely invested in the Cold War. Yes, it also used it as a club against liberals for being insufficiently anti-communist or whatever, but while its foreign policy worldview may have been useful for that, it had a constant and continuous foreign policy worldview, not just something that only existed when it was time to own a lib with it.
And for a while, the GWOT seemed to be taking the place of the Cold War as the centerpiece of GOP foreign policy, and same deal: it may have been useful for owning the libs, but it was a continuous foreign policy that had a life of its own.
Now there’s nothing like that. The GOP doesn’t have a foreign policy, other than whatever owns the libs at a given moment. It really is a huge difference.
SFAW
I dunno, that “commercial” looks like it was done by an aspiring DougJ type. [Not in the “production values” sense, but in the “I’m going to pretend I’m (the FTFTFNYT) RWMFs” sense. Yes, Poe’s Law and all, but I could see that guy taking all the earnings and devoting them to Planned Parenthood or similar.]
SFAW
@NotMax:
Obligatory
SFAW
@SFAW:
“Devoting” S/B “donating”
Damn. I need caffeine.
SiubhanDuinne
@Geminid:
Knock Knock.
Who’s there?
Our Lady.
Our Lady Who?
Our Lady of Knock Knock.
Who’s there?
Our Lady.
Our Lady Who?
Our Lady of Knock Knock.
Who’s there?
Et cetera.
Albatrossity
“It’s not ‘ultra-right’ until you’re violating at least one statute…”
I hereby nominate this for a rotating tag!
JAFD
@Geminid:
It is a place
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knock_Shrine
Capri
The folks at Bud Light must be absolutely delighted by all this. Their bid to get Bud Light regarded as something other than your old man’s cheap beer has turned out way better than they could have expected.
Boris Rasputin (the evil twin)
@JAFD: I’ve been to Knock, and think of the shrine as a tourist trap. Coney Island came to mind. Where else is “holy water” available from household faucets stuck in a wall? I saw a man filling gallon jugs from them. No one needs that much holy water. Irish Catholicism – half scare tactics, half fleecing the faithful.
Michael Bersin
@Capri:
Heh. Beer in a cammo can became an item in the 2022 Missouri U.S. Senate race between Trudy Busch Valentine (D) [yes, a member of the family] and right wingnut Eric Schmitt (r).
Eric Schmitt (r) eventually won the race, because Missouri.
Eric Schmitt (r) gets pwned…again
zhena gogolia
@Steeplejack: That is hilarious! And for once it’s well worth reading YouTube comments!
The Moar You Know
@AlaskaReader: This is exactly the kind of bullshit argument made by latte liberals who have never had to worry about what anything costs.
When you’re poor, every cent matters. Politics doesn’t ever enter into these people’s thoughts (although they are almost always the main victims of it) because they’re far too busy just trying to keep their heads above water
That’s “why the disconnect”.
SFAW
@Steeplejack:
Outstanding.
But for some reason, before the vid started, I expected to hear Isaac Hayes.
horatius
@NotMax: Can we shorten it to can-cel culture?
mrmoshpotato
worn
@SFAW: If you look up who M. Seth Weathers is, his history & the web site of his primary consulting business, I think you will be disabused of this notion. He really looks to be your standard right wing asshole.
worn
In an ongoing series of “I just don’t understand these people” I note the use of a baseball bat at the end of the video. It’s a weird trope that you see over and over – the example I recall before this one is the ‘Oligarchy’ video by Shitstain O’Keefe where he hits a television set with a bat. I mean, when I look at the reality: dude went out, purchased some Bud Light, put a can on a batting tee and then takes a (manly!) swing, I just can’t metaphorically connect that with substantively taking on InBev. But I strikes me that folks on the other side of the aisle really value puffed-up bluster in the general sense. That this in fact somehow equates to or is the same as strength. My mind doesn’t work this way so I am left just scratching my noggin whenever I see the bat make it’s appearance. Up
SFAW
@worn:
I appreciate your sacrifice, i.e., researching that asshole so that I don’t have to. Sorry to hear I was wrong, because as a straight-up (as opposed to parody) commercial, it’s majorly fucked up.
Daoud bin Daoud
When will brewers start advertising Aryan Ale for the Reich at heart?
Daoud bin Daoud
@p.a.: Now if only the cans could be holding tiny AR-15s!
Daoud bin Daoud
@Betsy: we must always suffer so that our betters never have to.
Paul in KY
@Ruckus: I hope they peed in it, too. Also.
Paul in KY
@p.a.: Someone is going to make some money off that….
Ruckus
@trnc:
This company sells many brands of beer and and styles of labeling. They care, likely less, about the actual beer than they do about the bottom line. Now their business is beer so they make many types/levels of beer, from piss water to liquids that a butt light drinker would never ingest because they actually taste like, well beer. If they can get some clown to purchase a $20 six pack of the same exact beer that goes in a Bud Lite can, I’d bet good money they wouldn’t hesitate one second to do exactly that.
PDXBob
I saw an Instagram story that said that Budweiser first partnered with GLAAD back in 1998. These guys have been drinking “woke” beer for more than 2 decades.
Morans…
brantl
@lowtechcyclist: Only in what they give lip service to, they have been unwilling to give aid, to do any sort of military or civilian interventions; the joke is the Republicans believe in a large “standing” Army: it doesn’t do anything, it just stands there.
Ruckus
@MisterDancer:
The world has changed dramatically since I was born, almost 3/4 of a century ago. Population. Stuff to buy that no one needs. The concept of what 25-30 yrs ago was a super computer can be sitting on our desks. Supermarkets that throw away food because the food we have is in excess of the money that many have to spend, and the minimal money we can earn is not enough. (When was the federal minimum wage last raised? – 2009 to it’s currently a paltry $7.25/hr) CA is now $15/hr. Tennessee is $7.25.
AlaskaReader
@MisterDancer: I’m surprised you haven’t noticed that what drives change is public sentiment, historically, legislation and regulation always follows the shifts in public sentiment.
I expect individuals to do better because that’s where the heavy lifting gets done.
AlaskaReader
@The Moar You Know: Yeah, no, I’ve heard that excuse too.
Trouble is, it’s not the just the poor who continue to support those who are out to destroy the poor.
The disconnect is not limited to just ‘the poor’.