A dark day: If they can indict Trump for taking classified documents to his house that he knew were classified and that he refused to give back and that he lied about giving back then they can indict ANYONE for doing that.
— Philip Bump (@pbump) June 8, 2023
Best quickie aggregate I can provide, so that commentors who don’t want to face this over breakfast can just jump to the next thread:
No, Trump didn’t follow the Presidential Records Act. No, Obama and the Bushes didn’t take millions of papers. No, the feds couldn’t have just asked nicely. No, 1,850 Biden boxes haven’t vanished.
Fact check on Trump’s blizzard of documents dishonesty: https://t.co/artwsq6HZg
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) June 9, 2023
Vulgar (i.e., media) gossip:
(thread/tonight) What I'm hearing… Trump is frustrated not just with the indictment but with people in his inner circle who reassured him for months that it was very unlikely to happen… source close to Trump says "too much happy talk for way too long" about what could happen
— Robert Costa (@costareports) June 9, 2023
A second source close to Trump says “Trusty knows the special counsel” and is expected to try to work with Rowley and Blanche to figure out exactly how to play the next step, which will be a move to dismiss/formal attempt to question special counsel and especially DOJ’s Bratt.
Monday’s mtg. with DOJ didn’t go well. It was mostly the Trump team laying out their concerns and the DOJ officials listening. This was not a negotiation or a friendly “let’s see where things stand” meeting, per multiple people briefed on it… Blanche didn’t go but was briefed
The Florida factor has thrown Trump’s team for a loop since it wasn’t always expected but they believe the DOJ has been looking hard at jurisdictional challenges, thinking ahead… another factor that has several longtime Trump people on edge: MEADOWS
“Why the f— has he been so quiet?” one Trump ally fumed in recent days. Confusion about whether Meadows has cut a deal or not, lots of guessing about what his attorney, George Terwilliger, is telling him to do as he faces mounting pressure on Jan. 6 case (remember the texts).
People who know Jack Smith personally have repeatedly told Trump’s lawyers and friends that he’s somewhat friendly as a person, but a killer as a prosecutor, per several people who are close to Trump team. “He’s known as someone who will push and push and push,” one says.
A law enforcement official says US Secret Service will be meeting tomorrow Friday with former president Trump’s staff and his security officers and agents assigned to him to develop a plan for Trump’s travel and appearance for arraignment, per CBS’s Pat Milton
Speaking tonight to key strategists w/ several top contenders, evident that for now this isn’t internally being tracked as an opening for rival camps. They think GOP voters will mostly rally to his side. But they also believe that once Georgia comes, Trump pol. bleed out possible
— Robert Costa (@costareports) June 9, 2023
Learning lots of new info as of 10 p.m. ET tonight… this is a grave, serious case in the eyes of many law-enforcement sources… those who know Jack Smith say he would NEVER bring charges of this nature unless he had tons of testimony and evidence and is convinced he will win
According to a former federal prosecutor, proving obstruction is very difficult and to bring this charge likely means there is a lot of specific evidence in the hands of the special counsel. He is described as someone who would hesistate to bring that charge unless it was nailed.
Two campaigns to watch in the coming days: Christie and Pence. Christie is a former U.S. attorney who is willing and able to take on Trump, not just on the political front but the legal one. Has a grasp of the seriousness of Smith and the case, can respond with authority on both.
Pence, meanwhile, just jumped into the race and directly challenged his former running mate’s respect for the Constitution and the rule of law. A witness in the Jan. 6 grand jury and a rival all at once, and someone who had classified docs but can say the feds dropped the probe.
This second one is a real objection Trump and Trump's followers have made about juries elsewhere.
It's not a winning legal complaint, but it has persuasive political force. It relies on a false, but widely held Trumpian belief about politically monolithic jury pools.
— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) June 9, 2023
Trump has not been indicted for “mishandling” classified documents.
He has not been charged with handling documents in the wrong way. He has been charged with willfully keeping national defense secrets he wasn’t entitled to possess and then obstructing justice. https://t.co/6KOWjNQ94w
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) June 9, 2023
Caring is sharing!
In case you think the issue here is "Trump had a document in a box," this article (no paywall) will disabuse you of that notion. https://t.co/2zUO0ACITF
— Philip Bump (@pbump) June 9, 2023
MORE OBSTRUCTION – he re-hid documents after being asked to return them; he had boxes packed into an SUV bound for Bedminster; they drained the pool and flooded the server room
MORE ESPIONAGE – 43 classified folders in Trump's office were found empty; many docs were photocopied
— Tristan Snell (@TristanSnell) June 9, 2023
Kevin McCarthy is threatening to use Congress to interfere in the federal prosecution of Donald Trump.
I will be doing everything I can in the Judiciary Committee to resist that.
Trump has plenty of criminal defense lawyers. That’s not the job of Congress.
— Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) June 9, 2023
NEW AD: No one is above the law, not even former presidents.
Airing on Fox News primetime next week. pic.twitter.com/ob7pxRp4pM
— Republican Accountability (@AccountableGOP) June 9, 2023
Meanwhile, the ‘defense’ will *never* rest!
wanting things you’re not supposed to have is generally the purpose of stealing. this is just describing what stealing is. https://t.co/fxPJFRbIUU
— world famous art thief (@famousartthief) June 8, 2023
it's also entirely possible that trump took these documents without any *specific* purpose in mind, that's not mutually exclusive with him finding a purpose for them later
— GOLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachi) June 8, 2023
The below assertions on Fox are incorrect. Some facts:
1. Presidents don’t jail or indict anyone. Grand juries indict.
2. The Trump Indictment is just that, an indictment. Trump is entitled to presumption of innocence. A jury would decide if Trump is guilty and goes to prison. https://t.co/XYdgT5NDqf
— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) June 9, 2023
— Centrism Fan Acct 🔹 (@Wilson__Valdez) June 9, 2023
Are these words in order? https://t.co/Sqw3PH6e9B
— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) June 9, 2023
I've given up trying to explain to the left why burning the world down to obtain justice is a bad idea. I'll just say if Biden loses in 2024, he, Hunter, and many others better have lawyers asap. The Rubicon has been crossed. Guilt won't matter. The pain of litigation will.
— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) June 9, 2023
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra. pic.twitter.com/1rNsn8rLhh
— Poker and Politics (@PokerPolitics) June 9, 2023
(Star Trek: Next Generation reference – to a society whose members communicate entirely through allusions to their ‘classic’ myths)