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Early Evening Open Thread

by Betty Cracker|  September 12, 20235:10 pm| 159 Comments

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I found this vehicle parked next to mine when I was done grocery shopping a while back:

Truck with homemade "2nd AMENDMENT IS MY LAW" sign on top.

In addition to exalting the Second Amendment as the supreme and only law, this person scoffs at the notion that there should be restrictions on owning venomous snakes, which led me to believe the cargo area might well have been a writhing pit of rattlers, copperheads, moccasins, etc.

Did I mention this kook-mobile was right next to my vehicle? 

Friends, I channeled Wonder Woman, seized 10 tote bag handles with two fists, transferred that load of groceries into my car and got the hell out of that parking lot with supernatural swiftness!

That said, I also brake for snakes.

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    1. 1.

      zhena gogolia

      September 12, 2023 at 5:13 pm

      Wow. I can’t read what it says on the top snake sticker.

      Reply
    2. 2.

      Jay

      September 12, 2023 at 5:13 pm

      The free gun is under the drivers seat.

      Reply
    3. 3.

      Alison Rose

      September 12, 2023 at 5:16 pm

      JFC. Okay but try as I might, I can’t read the wording underneath the snake or the middle words over the Florida sticker. I see “No one needs a something something but here you are” and “Keep something in Florida”. Anyone got better eyes than me?

      Reply
    4. 4.

      Raoul Paste

      September 12, 2023 at 5:16 pm

      I don’t think this gentleman is going to have an enjoyable future.  I’m assuming it’s a guy, but who knows?

      Reply
    5. 5.

      MisterDancer

      September 12, 2023 at 5:18 pm

      I channeled Wonder Woman

      Damn right! :)

      Reply
    6. 6.

      TheOtherHank

      September 12, 2023 at 5:19 pm

      I’ve always thought that these folks don’t get the fact that they’re telling actual tough guys to follow them home and take all their guns.

      Reply
    7. 7.

      MisterDancer

      September 12, 2023 at 5:20 pm

      @Alison Rose: Nah. Even with a good zoom it’s not readable to me.

      Reply
    8. 8.

      kindness

      September 12, 2023 at 5:20 pm

      What about if the snake is one of those massive non-native boas that someone dumped?  They’re eating everything in the outback of Florida from what we hear.  (Karma aside) Is it OK to run over them?

      Reply
    9. 9.

      robmassing

      September 12, 2023 at 5:21 pm

      Second Amendment is his law, and no one else can have it.

      Reply
    10. 10.

      RSA

      September 12, 2023 at 5:22 pm

      That’s one of the jankiest rear window replacements I’ve ever seen. The decaying plywood, the sliding van/RV window, the castoff weatherstripping…

      Reply
    11. 11.

      dmsilev

      September 12, 2023 at 5:23 pm

      @Alison Rose: I think, given the context, that it could be “Keep my mamba in Florida”. Hard to tell, even zooming in on the picture.

      Reply
    12. 12.

      CaseyL

      September 12, 2023 at 5:24 pm

      (I’m trying to figure out what that banner or painting (?) is just over the bumper. There’s something that looks like a bear figure on the left.)

      It’s nice of assholes to advertise their assholishness so we can avoid them.

      A couple-few months ago, while on the way back from a beachwalk and lunch, a friend had to stop for gas. The pump space was occupied by a truck whose driver was, in a very leisurely fashion, snack shopping in the attached mart. He was irate that anyone wanted gas and thought he should move. When he did get into his truck (finally) he tore off in a medium-sized rage.

      I didn’t see the back of his truck, but my friend did. She said he had a bumpersticker reading “I love guns.”

      Selfish, thoughtless, easily angered… and loves guns. Delightful fellow; a shining light among his family.​​

      Reply
    13. 13.

      dmsilev

      September 12, 2023 at 5:26 pm

      I can’t read the text above REWARD on the bumper sticker, but I’ll bet it’s hahaha funny about wanting to hunt some group of people that the car owner doesn’t like.

      Reply
    14. 14.

      Alison Rose

      September 12, 2023 at 5:27 pm

      @dmsilev: Maybe it’s “Keep my dumbass in Florida” which I cosign.

      Reply
    15. 15.

      Villago Delenda Est

      September 12, 2023 at 5:28 pm

      I’m sure the “I brake for snakes” dolt also exercises his 2nd Amendment rights as a member of a well regulated militia that drills every Saturday and misses all those college football games.

      Reply
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      Old School

      September 12, 2023 at 5:28 pm

      @Alison Rose:

      “No one needs a something something but here you are”

      Pretty sure it’s “No one needs a whiny little <garble garble>, but here you are.”

      We need to get Betty a better camera for her phone.

      Reply
    17. 17.

      tobie

      September 12, 2023 at 5:29 pm

      I remember going to the pet emergency room with a cat in the wee hours of the morning and a man came in with a python (caged). Apparently the python had developed a fungus and was having difficulty eating his dinner of live rodents. The man tried to cozy up to my cat who was freaking the fuck out. He’d been beaten to a pulp by Baltimore’s alley cats and still he knew that with a python in the room he was in mortal danger.

      These we’re innocent times. I remember thinking the guy’s a redneck but I wasn’t terrified he was raging lunatic (barring the fact that he had a pet python)

      ETA: Stay safe out there, BC!

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    18. 18.

      laura

      September 12, 2023 at 5:31 pm

      Performative gunnutter just comes accross as flaccid. The deplorable state of their vehicle does the double down- weak, sad, poop.

      Reply
    19. 19.

      trollhattan

      September 12, 2023 at 5:32 pm

      Creative use of plywood and hasp.

      What did the giant oval once say?

      Reply
    20. 20.

      Betty Cracker

      September 12, 2023 at 5:34 pm

      @Old School: I think the missing word was “bitch.”

      PS: I have an iPhone 14 Pro Max — it was operator error (due to giving the truck as wide a berth as possible and surreptitiously snapping the photo in case the weirdo was around) rather than phone camera quality.

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    21. 21.

      OldDave

      September 12, 2023 at 5:36 pm

      @trollhattan: I’m not sure it said anything – looks like woodsy / outdoor artwork to me.  There appears to be a buck on the far left.

      Reply
    22. 22.

      Doc Sarconic

      September 12, 2023 at 5:37 pm

      @trollhattan: Stick-on faux airbrush wildlife scene with deer etc, very popular with very chic rednecks of the late 70’s early 80’s going by the looks of that old Blazer or Suburban.

      Reply
    23. 23.

      Scout211

      September 12, 2023 at 5:38 pm

      Just now, driving to the dentist I saw a car rear window sign that made me laugh. A parody of the baby on board/precious cargo signs:

      Hella kids up in here

      Honk if one falls out

      Also, too, we saw two cute baby gopher snakes on our walk last night.  We love our gopher snakes here.  We definitely would brake for them.

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    24. 24.

      Old School

      September 12, 2023 at 5:38 pm

      @Betty Cracker: I think that’s probably correct.  I think the other garbled word is “either”.  It seems “bitch” is either slightly censored or a different font.

      Reply
    25. 25.

      trollhattan

      September 12, 2023 at 5:38 pm

      Holy crap, this video of an orangutan evicting a possum who dared occupy said orang’s lair, doubtless yelling the orangutan version of “Devil, get out!” is the Best Thing Ever.

      https://news.yahoo.com/orangutan-finds-possum-treehouse-throws-172743810.html

      Reply
    26. 26.

      trollhattan

      September 12, 2023 at 5:40 pm

      @Scout211: These began popping up in my metroplex a couple years ago. Very refreshing alternative to “Baby on Board.”

      Ours tend to all read “Hella Kids Up in This Bitch” with and without the second part.

      Reply
    27. 27.

      mrmoshpotato

      September 12, 2023 at 5:41 pm

      Someone’s gun-humping ass needs a good bite from a venomous snake.

      Reply
    28. 28.

      Urza

      September 12, 2023 at 5:41 pm

      I’ve never done it, but I always have thoughts of slashing the tires on a vehicle like this.  Someone may have a similar thought as that back window is not from the factory.  Looks hand made and can’t imagine doing that unless you had to replace the original.

      Reply
    29. 29.

      mrmoshpotato

      September 12, 2023 at 5:43 pm

      @Scout211: How cute were they?  Did you want to hug them, and squeeze them, and call them George?

      Reply
    30. 30.

      Another Scott

      September 12, 2023 at 5:45 pm

      @Old School:

      looks like “ankle biter” to me.

      FWIW.

      Cheers,
      Scott.

      Reply
    31. 31.

      Maxim

      September 12, 2023 at 5:47 pm

      @Betty Cracker: Ah, I zoomed in and could make out “no one needs a ??? little ??? either …” so that makes sense.

      I tried to make out the one on the left too. The long word sure looks like “pizzeria,” which I suppose could make sense (for very flexible definitions of that phrase) in a QAnon context.

      Reply
    32. 32.

      Doc Sardonic

      September 12, 2023 at 5:48 pm

      @Urza: window motor probably went out, and had to break the window to open the tailgate, latch is on the inside.

      Reply
    33. 33.

      Burnspbesq

      September 12, 2023 at 5:48 pm

      I’ve been otherwise engaged for most of the day, so apologies if this has already been discussed, but …

      Didja see the order the Eleventh Circuit entered today in Meadows’ appeal of the district court’s order remanding his case to state court? Talk about coming out of left field …

      The court ordered briefing, by COB tomorrow, on whether federal-officer removal under 28 USC section 1442(a) applies to current and former officers, or only current officers.  The district court assumed it did, but if you sets ubsections (a) and (b) next to each other, they are meaningfully different.

      Trump, Meadows, and all the rest of the defendants who have filed notices of removal might very well be hosed.

      Reply
    34. 34.

      zhena gogolia

      September 12, 2023 at 5:48 pm

      I love that BJ is devoting serious textological energy to this.

      Reply
    35. 35.

      NutmegAgain

      September 12, 2023 at 5:49 pm

      I passed some a-hole on the highway yesterday who had all sorts of very elaborate anti-Biden shit plastered over their car. Like, very elaborate!  Took all my willpower not to flip them off. Even here in true-blue CT, a maniac like that is liable to be violent & dangerous. Kind of a travelling MAGA-bomb. These damned people! Imagine if they took all that time, energy & money to create something good.

      Reply
    36. 36.

      HeleninEire

      September 12, 2023 at 5:50 pm

      So tomorrow is a big day. It’s my 61st birthday. No way would I have ever thought I would make it to 61. And, by the way, I feel 30!!! But more importantly, 2 1/2 years from tomorrow… March 13, 2026 I can retire. YAY, me.

      Reply
    37. 37.

      Amy!

      September 12, 2023 at 5:50 pm

      I’m pretty sure that the snake sticker is another pro-gun sticker, attempting to satirize the argument that no one needs a semi-automatic bang bang death stick (presumably, they think guns breed, too).

      On top:

      No one needs to own

      venomous   [snek]

      reptiles        [more snek]

      No one needs a vicious

      little rattle snake.

      But here you are …

      Anyway, I could be wrong, but I think that’s it, blurry as it is. I can’t find an example by searching what ought to be keywords, either.

      Reply
    38. 38.

      Elizabelle

      September 12, 2023 at 5:51 pm

      @trollhattan: from your link:

      Perth Zoo reassured 9 News that “the possum was sighted scurrying off after being evicted. They are a very robust species.”

      The Perth Zoo told 7 News that “the orangutan habitat is an outside environment and possums, who also live at height, just like the orangutans, have been known to inhabit the above-ground territories.”

      “Whilst every effort is made to prevent (possums) from entering, the sheer height provides some challenges and sometimes the orangutans evict the odd possum themselves,” zoo officials told 7 News.

      Robust? Uh huh. I hope they are aerodynamic.

      The comments on the Yahoo article are hilarious, most of them.

      Reply
    39. 39.

      mrmoshpotato

      September 12, 2023 at 5:51 pm

      @trollhattan: “Perth Zoo reassured 9 News that “the possum was sighted scurrying off after being evicted. They are a very robust species.”

      And occasionally involuntarily flying!

      Reply
    40. 40.

      Dorothy A. Winsor

      September 12, 2023 at 5:52 pm

      Story about living among old people.

      As most of you know, I live in an over-55 condo building. There are raised garden beds that residents can claim, and at this time of year, they’re full of flowers and produce. My friend Doris is 90. She has one of the gardens, plus her first floor windows look directly at the gardens. Last week she saw a woman strolling through, pushing a walker with a basket on it into which she was gathering flowers. Doris knows damn well who has gardens out there and this woman wasn’t one of them.

      So Doris grabs her cane, goes out there, and tells the lady with the walker that she shouldn’t be picking other people’s flowers. The walker lady says, “Oh yes, I’ve seen the signs but I’m just taking a few.” Doris was so mad that she ratted out the lady to management, who are now trying to decide how to “handle the situation.”

      LOL. I wouldn’t have management’s job for all the tea in China.

      Reply
    41. 41.

      Jay

      September 12, 2023 at 5:54 pm

      @Urza:

      back in the day, when big chunks of the #1 through the Lower Rainland were single lane each way, a-hole would rip up the  emergency lane, then cut in.

      My brother had a box of roofing nails open on the passenger seat, with the passenger window down.

      You had to watch your passenger side mirror carefully, anyway,…….

      Reply
    42. 42.

      Maxim

      September 12, 2023 at 5:56 pm

      @Dorothy A. Winsor: That sounds like a crisis straight out of the Thursday Murder Club. But if I were Doris, I’d be mad too.

      Reply
    43. 43.

      Montanareddog

      September 12, 2023 at 5:57 pm

      @HeleninEire: as someone who turned 61 a couple of weeks ago, welcome to the 1962  61yo club, my fellow Virgoan and Tiger baby.  Happy birthday!

      Reply
    44. 44.

      Roger Moore

      September 12, 2023 at 5:58 pm

      I’m also curious about what I assume are wolf stickers on the back window.  I know people love doing these as a representation of their family, so is this person suggesting they have a blended family with one parent having a single child and the other having five?

      Reply
    45. 45.

      Jay

      September 12, 2023 at 5:59 pm

      @Elizabelle:

      @mrmoshpotato:

      Keep in mind that they are Australian possums, not North American ones.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_brushtail_possum

      Cuter, but like all Australian wildlife, deadly poisonous.//

      Reply
    46. 46.

      Bill Arnold

      September 12, 2023 at 5:59 pm

      @tobie:
      Cats and Cucumbers Compilation (YouTube 1:01)
      Fear of snakes is deep in the wiring.

      (There is a pile of scholarly argument about evolution (and even existence) of this.
      ETA my favorite paper on this, in part because of the title.
      The Malicious Serpent: Snakes as a Prototypical Stimulus for an Evolved Module of Fear (2003))

      Reply
    47. 47.

      Jay

      September 12, 2023 at 6:01 pm

      @Roger Moore:

      Or they filled in 5, then had a sixth, but had to stick it off to the side.

      Reply
    48. 48.

      Baud

      September 12, 2023 at 6:01 pm

      @Roger Moore:

      My question as well.

      Reply
    49. 49.

      frosty

      September 12, 2023 at 6:02 pm

      @CaseyL: The pump space was occupied by a truck whose driver was, in a very leisurely fashion, snack shopping in the attached mart.

      I’ve found that this is common practice everywhere in recent years. Pisses me off no end.

      Reply
    50. 50.

      Steve in the ATL

      September 12, 2023 at 6:03 pm

      Saw a man at ATL this morning carrying a camo NRA bag as his carry on.  Topped a few minutes later by the man with a “Lynyrd Skynyrd A Simple Man Cruise VII” luggage tag.

      I assume both travelers had just gotten off flights from somewhere in Florida….

       

      Reply
    51. 51.

      HeleninEire

      September 12, 2023 at 6:03 pm

      @Montanareddog: Thank you. And happy birthday to you!

      Reply
    52. 52.

      stinger

      September 12, 2023 at 6:04 pm

      Maybe because I just watched season 1, epsiode 1 of NYPD Blue, I believe the snake image says “No one needs a pissy little bitch either But here you are”. Both “pissy” and “bitch” seem to have been altered, or maybe those aren’t the words.

      Reply
    53. 53.

      Baud

      September 12, 2023 at 6:04 pm

      @HeleninEire:

      Yay. Happy early birthday!

      Reply
    54. 54.

      Baud

      September 12, 2023 at 6:06 pm

      @trollhattan:

      Next time, squat in the ground floor apartment

      Reply
    55. 55.

      frosty

      September 12, 2023 at 6:06 pm

      @HeleninEire: Hang in there! I’ve been retired almost three years now and I highly recommend it. No more juggling vacation days if you want to hit the road (or Dublin or wherever!)​
       

      ETA: Of course you feel 30, everyone does. Or maybe 28, like me.

      Reply
    56. 56.

      Baud

      September 12, 2023 at 6:06 pm

      @frosty:

      Another reason to go EV.

      Reply
    57. 57.

      HeleninEire

      September 12, 2023 at 6:07 pm

      @Baud: Thanks!

      Reply
    58. 58.

      Kelly

      September 12, 2023 at 6:08 pm

      Around here obscuring the view out the back window of your pickup will a huge “Oregunian” over an AR 15 silhouette decal is the happy friendly thing I see in parking  lots.

      Reply
    59. 59.

      Anne Laurie

      September 12, 2023 at 6:09 pm

      @Roger Moore: I’m also curious about what I assume are wolf stickers on the back window. I know people love doing these as a representation of their family, so is this person suggesting they have a blended family with one parent having a single child and the other having five?

      Not an expert, but yeah — around here, it would indicate a man with one kid who married a woman with five.

      Which, from my (biased) perspective, would indicate that the ‘venomous reptile’ was a defensive ‘joke’, because surely even a woman who’d marry a dude driving that vehicle wouldn’t let him keep poisonous snakes in the same house with her five kids?

      (Or maybe she’s just bad at contraception, and tired of parenting?)

      Reply
    60. 60.

      HeleninEire

      September 12, 2023 at 6:09 pm

      @frosty: Plans are already made. It will be summers in Dublin as my base to travel the continent (and probably farther). I already have my accommodations settled with a friend. The rest of the year here in NY.

      Reply
    61. 61.

      NotMax

      September 12, 2023 at 6:10 pm

      @Baud

      Parking at the pump with an EV is somehow better?
      :)

      Reply
    62. 62.

      chrisanthemama

      September 12, 2023 at 6:10 pm

      I try to avoid the term “white trash”, but I’ll make an exception here.

      Reply
    63. 63.

      Rusty

      September 12, 2023 at 6:11 pm

      Reminds me of right after TFG got elected, I was at the local Wegmans supermarket which thoughtly placed a couple of parking spots near the front for shoppers that were pregnant or had small children.  At 5:00 as everyone is trying to pick up stuff on the way home, a jackass in a jacked up, black crew cab pickup had parked diagonally across several slots.  The truck had of course a Gadsden flag, NRA decal and a Trump bumper sticker.  As I was taking a picture this guy comes out alone and is pissed I am taking a picture of his truck.  He starts to beef with me but I just ignored him and went into the store.  I knew the next 4 years were going to be a mess with every asshole feeling free to express themselves due to Trump.  I wasn’t wrong.

      Reply
    64. 64.

      Dan B

      September 12, 2023 at 6:14 pm

      @Jay:  Possum is used in meat pies in New Zealand.  Whee!

      Reply
    65. 65.

      Baud

      September 12, 2023 at 6:14 pm

      @Jay:

      Keep in mind that they are Australian possums, not North American ones.

       

      “What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen possum?”

      “What do you mean? An Australian or North American possum?”

      “Huh? I… I don’t know that.”

      Reply
    66. 66.

      frosty

      September 12, 2023 at 6:15 pm

      @HeleninEire: Sounds like a great plan!

      Reply
    67. 67.

      Alison Rose

      September 12, 2023 at 6:15 pm

      This is cool — I don’t cook but I know a lot of you do, and World Central Kitchen has a cookbook out!

      A captivating collection of stories and recipes from renowned chefs, local cooks, and celebrity friends of José Andrés’s beloved nonprofit World Central Kitchen (WCK), which feeds communities impacted by natural disasters and humanitarian crises; with a foreword from Stephen Colbert.

      In their first cookbook, WCK shares recipes inspired by the many places they’ve cooked following disasters as well as inspiring narratives from the chefs and volunteers on the front lines. Photographs captured throughout the world highlight community and hope while stunning food photography showcases the mouthwatering recipes.

      Each chapter reflects a value of the organization. “Urgency” focuses on food that can be eaten on the go, including the Lahmajoun Flatbread served after a devastating explosion rocked Beirut in 2020. In “Hope,” readers will find soups, stews, and comforting meals such as Ukrainian Borsch served to families living through an unthinkable invasion and Chicken Chili Verde prepared for California firefighters. Famous WCK supporters have shared recipes too, like Breakfast Tacos from Michelle Obama and a Lemon Olive Oil Cake from Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex. Other contributors include Marcus Samuelsson, Ayesha Curry, Reem Assil, Brooke Williamson, Emeril Lagasse, Tyler Florence, Guy Fieri, Sanjeev Kapoor, and Eric Adjepong.

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    68. 68.

      Baud

      September 12, 2023 at 6:15 pm

      @HeleninEire:

      Living the life!

      Reply
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      Jay

      September 12, 2023 at 6:16 pm

      @Baud:

      That’s what experiments are for,…….

      Reply
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      Baud

      September 12, 2023 at 6:17 pm

      @Jay:

      We need more orangutans in STEM.

      Reply
    71. 71.

      Elizabelle

      September 12, 2023 at 6:17 pm

      @Jay:   From your wiki link (and those possums be cute):

      Female young have a higher survival rate than their male counterparts due to establishing their home ranges closer to their mothers, while males travel farther in search of new nesting sites, encountering established territories from which they may be forcibly ejected.

      Tell us about it!

      Brushtail possums compete with each other and other animals for den spaces, and this contributes to their mortality.

      Sometimes spectacularly.

      Article is silent on whether possums can fly.

      I am gonna hope that some do.

      Reply
    72. 72.

      Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

      September 12, 2023 at 6:23 pm

      I just feel really sorry for the kids.

      You know those guns aren’t secured. Somebody is going to end up shot
      He clearly can’t afford his family. He can’t even afford to repair his window
      He’s probably an asshole

      Reply
    73. 73.

      Baud

      September 12, 2023 at 6:23 pm

      @Elizabelle:

      As God is my witness, I thought possums could fly.

      Reply
    74. 74.

      NotMax

      September 12, 2023 at 6:23 pm

      @Rusty

      Passed by the parking lot of an office building when in NY. Unusual layout of the lot.

      Row A of parking slots against a fence abutting the building, row B directly behind, with no separation of any kind other than the line painted on the pavement between the rows. Then an open lane and rows C and D in the same layout on the other side of the lot.

      Anyhoo, saw a shiny tricked out Range Rover parked there, smack in the middle of multiple spaces (2 in row A, two in row B), effectively occupying four parking slots for a single vehicle.

      Reply
    75. 75.

      Delk

      September 12, 2023 at 6:24 pm

      @HeleninEire: Happy Birthday! I turned 61 last week.

      Reply
    76. 76.

      Mustang Bobby

      September 12, 2023 at 6:24 pm

      Anyone who has a passing interest in psychology knows why some people have a fixation with snakes.  Dr. Freud, call your service.

      Reply
    77. 77.

      Dan B

      September 12, 2023 at 6:24 pm

      @Alison Rose: That sounds fantastic!  Marcus Samuelson was here in Seattle and went to places (Foo Lee Market, Filipino with a steam table and many odd cuts of meat and strange fish) near us that we’d gone to for years.  We freaked out at the sight of Foo Lee just a mile from us and ten short blocks from my partner’s house.

      Reply
    78. 78.

      Baud

      September 12, 2023 at 6:24 pm

      @Delk:

      Happy birthday!

      Reply
    79. 79.

      M31

      September 12, 2023 at 6:24 pm

      now I know what the word “yeeted” means

      lolol

      Reply
    80. 80.

      M31

      September 12, 2023 at 6:26 pm

       @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: He’s probably an asshole

      no probably about it lol

      Reply
    81. 81.

      bbleh

      September 12, 2023 at 6:32 pm

      @Dorothy A. Winsor: @Maxim: I would propose a solution whereby said lady contributes some labor to said flower garden, which would redound to everyone’s benefit.

      Or, I suppose there’s always the Putin solution, but that seems a little harsh in this case …

      Reply
    82. 82.

      Tazj

      September 12, 2023 at 6:35 pm

      @NutmegAgain: I get tempted too. You’ll see enough of those “Let’s go Brandon!” and F*ck Biden stickers here in NY. They are usually accompanied by some crazy gun and NRA ones on the back of a pickup truck. I have to remind myself and sometimes my son that those people would love the attention and may also be violent.

      Reply
    83. 83.

      NotMax

      September 12, 2023 at 6:35 pm

      FYI.

      Leasing an electric vehicle (EV) is now the cheapest option for new car buyers across the United States – thousands of dollars cheaper per year than buying or leasing a gasoline-powered vehicle.

      This new economic dynamic is being driven by several factors: Falling EV lease prices, new federal tax incentives from the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA), lower operating and maintenance costs of EVs compared to gas-powered vehicles, and rising interest rates. Source

      Reply
    84. 84.

      Yarrow

      September 12, 2023 at 6:36 pm

      Since we’re talking about vehicles, guess what sort of car was a complete dickwad today when we were all stuck in stop and go traffic on the freeway? That’s right, a Dodge Charger. Of course. Bright green so you couldn’t miss it.

      The driver accelerated around several cars when there wasn’t really room, cut off another vehicle and almost caused an accident, And good for them. They got two vehicles ahead of where they were before.

      Reply
    85. 85.

      Frankensteinbeck

      September 12, 2023 at 6:40 pm

      @tobie:

      his dinner of live rodents.

      Feeding a snake live rodents is both cruel and irresponsible.  Rats in particular are known to bite out a snake’s eye on the way down.  Zoo standard is to kill the rat immediately before feeding and offer it on long-ass tongs with some wiggling to signal it’s food grade meat and not carrion.

      @Baud:

      I thought possums could fly.

      Look up ‘sugar glider’.

      Reply
    86. 86.

      evodevo

      September 12, 2023 at 6:43 pm

      @Betty Cracker: maybe one a those signs you see on a Harley…”If you can read this, the bitch fell off”

      Reply
    87. 87.

      sab

      September 12, 2023 at 6:43 pm

      @trollhattan: Yikes! Apparently aussie possums, being arboreal, are a lot more aerodynamic than american opossums. More like tossing a squirrel out of a tree. They generally are okay.

      Reply
    88. 88.

      Wag

      September 12, 2023 at 6:46 pm

      That said, I also brake for snakes.

      Even pythons?

      Reply
    89. 89.

      Eyeroller

      September 12, 2023 at 6:46 pm

      @Elizabelle: This is the case for a lot of mammals, though.  Among carnivores, e.g. bears and raccoons, the mothers share some of their territory with their daughters, but males are on their own.  A lot of the little raccoons we see as roadkill in the eastern US in September-October are that year’s baby boys, who generally leave their natal range and search for territory while the daughters stay closer to home.  Similarly for many ungulates, where daughters (and males up to a year) stay in their maternal herds.  In the case of ungulates the young males are often driven away, but in other species the boys leave on their own.

      Reply
    90. 90.

      lowtechcyclist

      September 12, 2023 at 6:50 pm

      @Wag: ​
       

      Even pythons?

      They’re her holy grail.

      (gotta do something after being beaten to the Australian possum v. North American possum joke!)

      Reply
    91. 91.

      HumboldtBlue

      September 12, 2023 at 6:55 pm

      This joint needs more Abuelas (not youse) — Sopita De Elote Para Estás Lluvias De Mi Rancho a Tu Cocina

      And for those who were paying attention to the Spanish Football Federation and its gang of men behaving badly, Rubielas has resigned. Finally.

      Reply
    92. 92.

      mrmoshpotato

      September 12, 2023 at 6:56 pm

      @bbleh:

      Or, I suppose there’s always the Putin solution, but that seems a little harsh in this case … 

      Garden gulag?

      Reply
    93. 93.

      HumboldtBlue

      September 12, 2023 at 7:04 pm

      @Dorothy A. Winsor: ​ 

      Doris gonna start swinging that cane like a shillelagh, keep fucking around with Doris, Karen.

      Reply
    94. 94.

      brantl

      September 12, 2023 at 7:04 pm

      @Jay:  I hope he was lucky and some landed on end, those people deserve deflated tires.

      Reply
    95. 95.

      eversor

      September 12, 2023 at 7:05 pm

      @Frankensteinbeck:

      Years ago, when I still had alergies and could not keep a furry critter as even one in the house would cause me to have death level asthma attacks, I had a “small: python.  These are alergenic.  Loved him to death.  Wasn’t much fun as a pet, but it was a little critter I could take care of and he did love me in his own way.  Reptiles make great pets for alergic kids like me.  I loved that snake.  His name was Satan, which my parents thought was horrid but it was my pet damn it!

      Anyways Satan would only eat live prey.  When feeding a largish snake there’s three ways to do it.  The first is just live prey, and honestly this is the most honest way about it.   The second is prey you kill, some snakes will not eat this.  The third is pre killed animals, even more snakes will not eat this.  So you are forced into “place snake in room, throw animal into it, close door so you don’t get hit” territory.

      You can’t change it.  Won’t work.  My allergies are long gone and now I have a cat and it freely murders anything it can get close to so I’m not going to lose sleep about the mice, rabbits, chickens, the snake ate it’s all the same shit.  Predators going to predator.  It’s not just who they are it’s what they are.  I don’t know what the killing process of the fetal pinky mice we tried to feed Satan was.  I know my cracking of necks wasn’t pleasant, you know, they died!  I’m sure his coil of doom sucked biggy but snake gonna snake.  But none of that is more gory than watching the current fed cat massacre squirels and birds at whim and with great glee in her actions.  Even by being fed live animals the snake caused less deaths than the cat did, so you know, who’s the monster?

      I’d let you know about the fish war we created as kids but they aren’t furry so nobody fucking cares.

      Reply
    96. 96.

      dexwood

      September 12, 2023 at 7:06 pm

      Oh, man, that truck, Betty. And, yet, I have hope. Neighbor down the street drives a giant black truck. Since Biden’s election Ultra Maga Patriot and Fuck Joe Biden have adorned his back window. After the Orange Asshole’s 4th indictment, both have been removed. For the right reasons? Who knows.

      Reply
    97. 97.

      Mike S

      September 12, 2023 at 7:06 pm

      Next time you see it drop a baby Rattle through a window.

      Reply
    98. 98.

      narya

      September 12, 2023 at 7:07 pm

      CDC recommends the new vaccine for everybody, and pharmacies expect to have supply by the end of the week.

      Reply
    99. 99.

      KSinMA

      September 12, 2023 at 7:08 pm

      @HeleninEire: Happy 61!

      Reply
    100. 100.

      Dorothy A. Winsor

      September 12, 2023 at 7:09 pm

      @Baud: This cannot be true. I used to see possums in the Detroit suburb we lived in. They stink.

      Reply
    101. 101.

      brantl

      September 12, 2023 at 7:10 pm

      @NotMax:  An XKCD cartoon would show that cut in 1/4s, and pushed into one slot!

      Reply
    102. 102.

      Jeffro

      September 12, 2023 at 7:11 pm

      @Alison Rose: I’ve had it on my Amazon list forever – is it almost “buy” time?  =)

      Reply
    103. 103.

      sab

      September 12, 2023 at 7:13 pm

      @evodevo: Stay classy, biker.

      Reply
    104. 104.

      Jeffro

      September 12, 2023 at 7:13 pm

      OT but David French and Michelle Goldberg have up (unintentional) companion op-eds in That Paper today and I’m hoping that one of the front-pagers will do a post on them in another thread tonight or tomorrow.

      It’s kind of like “put up or shut up, GOP” and “here’s why the GOP can’t put up or shut up”

      Reply
    105. 105.

      Dorothy A. Winsor

      September 12, 2023 at 7:13 pm

      @Maxim: I thought of the Thursday Murder Club too, though we haven’t come to that yet.

      @bbleh: @HumboldtBlue: Yeah, Doris is not to be messed with. After she retired, she volunteered to go with doctors on small planes to remote medical sites. I’m not even sure what country they were in.

      Reply
    106. 106.

      MomSense

      September 12, 2023 at 7:13 pm

      I could really use some assistance from the jackal pack mind.  I have original documents proving the well regulated part of the 2nd amendment.  Fines assessed for failure to clean their muskets properly, late to muster etc.  I have the ledgers showing the fines, the names of the militia members, the commander of the militia, the writs.  I sent some photos of some of the documents to a professor suggested here, but I never heard back from him.

      Reply
    107. 107.

      Another Scott

      September 12, 2023 at 7:17 pm

      @TheOtherHank: Or people who just escaped from jail…

      Cheers,
      Scott.

      Reply
    108. 108.

      Subsole

      September 12, 2023 at 7:19 pm

      @frosty:

      Dikes/diagonal pliers.

      Apply liberally to valve-stems.

      Reply
    109. 109.

      wjca

      September 12, 2023 at 7:19 pm

      @Jay: The free gun is under the drivers seat.

      Which is entirely acceptable.  Provided it is aimed up thru the seat at all times.

      Reply
    110. 110.

      Jay

      September 12, 2023 at 7:21 pm

      @Tazj:

      “round here, if you are smart, you don’t “sticker” your truck.

      It just tells thieves what’s inside.

      At the Refinery, during the upgrade, there were a bunch of trucks with “PureBlood” stickers and “Fuck Trudeau” stickers, with Alberta plates. They all got broken into and many guns and drugs were stolen.

      @brantl:

      We used to tack them up into caltrops with Dad’s MIG Welder, just to “practice” our welding skills.

      Reply
    111. 111.

      Elizabelle

      September 12, 2023 at 7:22 pm

      @Eyeroller:  That makes me sad, about the little [boy] raccooons.

      More on: The Perils of Australia.  Water Hazard:  Sharks on the 14th Hole.

      They aren’t there any more, but there had been six bull sharks in a golf course’s 51-acre lake near the 14th hole, for 17 years.  The young sharks got swept onto the golf course in a 1996  flood, and eventually escaped in another one.

      Scientifically interesting because they survived, longterm, in almost fresh water.  Although they didn’t breed with each other.

      Maybe now they are out there, living large and spawning.

      Free link to the FTF NY Times (because it’s always more pleasant to read their Science articles than the crap they serve up on US politics.  Did you know that Biden is old?  And unpopular?)

      Anyway:  Free link.  Worth clicking for the photo of a large shark fin in a small lake, if you don’t read a word.

      Sharks on a Golf Course Made a Watery Grave Unlike Any Other

      A group of bull sharks ended up spending 17 years in a lake by a golf course’s 14th hole, suggesting that the predators can live in low-saltwater environments indefinitely.

      … Extreme floods like the ones that washed sharks in and out of Carbrook Golf Club are becoming more common, and more bull sharks could end up marooned in lakes, lagoons and ponds. Although you are highly unlikely to encounter a bull shark in your local swimming hole, Dr. Gausmann recommends avoiding bodies of water recently affected by flooding.

      “You should never bathe in stagnant bodies of water that once had a connection to the sea. You never know if sharks are living there,” he said, although people in urban areas may not need to worry, as urban floodwaters are often too toxic to sustain marine life.

      Reply
    112. 112.

      brantl

      September 12, 2023 at 7:22 pm

      @MomSense:  Send them to the anti-guns-moms organization, I can’t remember the name of the group, they take no prisoners.

      Or conversely or also, send it to Wikipedia? Please, if you stash it anywhere on line, let me know, I would like a copy.

      Reply
    113. 113.

      noncarborundum

      September 12, 2023 at 7:22 pm

      @Old School: I think it’s “whiny little bitch” but wouldn’t swear to it.

      Reply
    114. 114.

      sab

      September 12, 2023 at 7:25 pm

      @MomSense: No useful advice for you, but how very interesting that such documents are still in existence.

      “Fines for failure to clean muskets properly.”  That doesn’t sound like freedumb to me.

      Reply
    115. 115.

      HeleninEire

      September 12, 2023 at 7:25 pm

      @Baud: Yep. Looking forward to it.

      Reply
    116. 116.

      HeleninEire

      September 12, 2023 at 7:26 pm

      @Delk: Happy Birthday.

      Reply
    117. 117.

      HeleninEire

      September 12, 2023 at 7:27 pm

      @KSinMA: Thanks!

      Reply
    118. 118.

      Roger Moore

      September 12, 2023 at 7:28 pm

      @MomSense:
      It’s great to have the documents you’ve found, but I don’t think it will actually make any difference.  The rulings on the 2nd Amendment were purely political; the historical side was just window dressing.  You could have written evidence from the people who drafted the 2nd Amendment that it was only intended to protect the right of states to have militias and had nothing to do with personal gun ownership, and the hacks on the Supreme Court would ignore it.​
      ETA: This came across as too negative. I don’t know who the right person to send the documentation to is, but it’s probably someone who’s working on the political side of guns, not the legal side.

      Reply
    119. 119.

      Elizabelle

      September 12, 2023 at 7:28 pm

      @brantl:  Moms Demand Action.

      Reply
    120. 120.

      Another Scott

      September 12, 2023 at 7:28 pm

      @MomSense: Another possible outlet:

      Research Director at Giffords Law Center.

      Good luck!

      Cheers,
      Scott.

      Reply
    121. 121.

      Baud

      September 12, 2023 at 7:30 pm

      @Roger Moore:

      It could be important in the future when there are a new set of justices. Anything can be overruled.

      Reply
    122. 122.

      Subsole

      September 12, 2023 at 7:31 pm

      @Jay:

      I remember this ex-con I used to know. Said the first thing he always looked for when he was deciding whose house to break into was one of those “we don’t call 911” stickers.

      Reply
    123. 123.

      Jay

      September 12, 2023 at 7:31 pm

      @wjca:

      Years ago here, there was a Mob Hit. The Hitman took a chunk of 12 gauge heavy wall conduit pipe, cut it to length, slid in a 12 gauge Buckshot shotgun shell, glued a tack to the primer, wedged it under the victims seat. They figure he “slim jimmed” the door lock.

      When the victim sat down on the set,……… boom.

      Reply
    124. 124.

      Dorothy A. Winsor

      September 12, 2023 at 7:32 pm

      @brantl: Mom’s Demand Action. Here’s their website.

      Reply
    125. 125.

      MomSense

      September 12, 2023 at 7:34 pm

      @brantl:

      Good idea.  Moms Demand and Everytown would be a good place.  I have a photo on my phone of one from May 1, 1821 with a list of names and the amounts of the fines etc.  I could send it to WG or Betty to post.

      Reply
    126. 126.

      Jeffro

      September 12, 2023 at 7:35 pm

      btw comedian Blaire Erskine (commenting on Sen Kennedy’s X-rated ‘reading’ carried live on C-SPAN today) noted that

      this is my family reading my texts after I die

      LOLOLOL

      also, the comments on X-Twitter are comedy. gold.

      Reply
    127. 127.

      sab

      September 12, 2023 at 7:44 pm

      Re Betty Cracker ‘s photo: I don’t think this truck owner was a midwestern snowbird. Pure homegrown Florida there (unless wandered in from Georgia or Alabama.)

      Reply
    128. 128.

      Betty

      September 12, 2023 at 7:46 pm

      @MomSense: There is a group in California that is researching this information to present to legislators. Maybe you can Google them and hook up with their effort.

      Reply
    129. 129.

      sab

      September 12, 2023 at 7:47 pm

      @MomSense: Does anybody around here know how DocumentCloud works?  I don’t, but people who do useful investigative stuff use it. Mostly reporters.

      Reply
    130. 130.

      brantl

      September 12, 2023 at 7:47 pm

      @Elizabelle: That would be them, although a Wikipedia entry would be fuel for the fight, to our side, as well.

      Reply
    131. 131.

      Elizabelle

      September 12, 2023 at 7:51 pm

      The Sandy Hook kids would be graduating high school in 2023 or 2024.

      If they had been given the chance to grow up.

      Reply
    132. 132.

      Jay

      September 12, 2023 at 7:51 pm

      @Subsole:

      First truck I had, well, couldn’t afford much, but I could afford a flashing red LED plugged into the cigarette lighter. Worked like a charm, because only the really expensive alarm/immobilizers back then had the flashing LED.

      The back up was a $2.50 electrical keyswitch under the dash. About the same quality as the locks you get on the bottom drawer of cubicle furniture. But it was wired into the electrical fuel pump.

      So they could start the truck, and get less than 100 feet before it would stall.

      Reply
    133. 133.

      glc

      September 12, 2023 at 7:51 pm

      @Subsole:

      Lentils

      Reply
    134. 134.

      Roger Moore

      September 12, 2023 at 7:52 pm

      @Baud:

      I agree it will be overturned when the politics of the court changes, but that’s more about changing the political environment than about coming up with a more convincing legal argument.  Where this kind of document might be useful is for the people trying to change that political environment.  I suppose it might be useful cover for a justice overturning Heller, because it might let them vote the other way using the same legal framework, but I think that’s less important than changing the legal framework used to support the decision.

      Reply
    135. 135.

      Captain C

      September 12, 2023 at 8:01 pm

      @TheOtherHank: Either that or:

      “I shot him.”

      “Why?”

      “I was in fear for my life.  He was a frothy MAGAt with guns.”

      “You shot him in the back!”

      “His back was to me.”

      Reply
    136. 136.

      Another Scott

      September 12, 2023 at 8:03 pm

      Meanwhile, … ArsTechnica.com – 0-62 MPH in 0.956 seconds

      Only needed 40.2 feet.

      Zooks!

      Cheers,
      Scott.

      Reply
    137. 137.

      Mike in Pasadena

      September 12, 2023 at 8:04 pm

      @Burnspbesq: I might see what you refer to. (b) refers to who is or at the time of the alleged action was an officer, while (a) does not have the langauge “or at the time of the alleged action”. Rules of statutory interpretation usually mean that subsection (a) only applies to folks who are currently officers. Is that what you see?

      Reply
    138. 138.

      Ruckus

      September 12, 2023 at 8:10 pm

      @RSA:

      Well when you spend every spare dime on a new gun, so you will have 200-300 when you need them because the shit might hit the fan and whata ya gunna do then? I mean his amendment allows him to have more guns than a gun shop, so that he will never run out when the cops show up to arrest him for all the vehicle offenses, parking and driving or a person of color moves within 27.6 miles of him… Or maybe it will be a black police officer! OMG!

      Reply
    139. 139.

      laura

      September 12, 2023 at 8:17 pm

      @HeleninEire: Slante!

      Reply
    140. 140.

      Ruckus

      September 12, 2023 at 8:18 pm

      @Burnspbesq:

      Trump, Meadows, and all the rest of the defendants who have filed notices of removal might very well be hosed.

      I sure hope so….

      Also I’m not surprised if they screwed themselves. I mean really whata ya gunna do with an IQ maybe as high up as in the low 80s.

      Reply
    141. 141.

      Elizabelle

      September 12, 2023 at 8:20 pm

      @HeleninEire:   Happy Birthday Eve!  Yay you.

      Reply
    142. 142.

      surfk9

      September 12, 2023 at 8:37 pm

      Just got my World Central Kitchen cookbook delivered. Woohoo!

      Reply
    143. 143.

      cain

      September 12, 2023 at 8:38 pm

      @Bill Arnold: I hear ya, my first cat one time was in the garden came upon a garden state and proceeded to leap straight up, freaking out and ran away. This cat is usually not afraid of anything or anyone – but damn did he hate snakes.

      Reply
    144. 144.

      cain

      September 12, 2023 at 8:45 pm

      @Subsole: Seriously? I assume it’s because they think they are protected as it implies they got a gun and protection?

      Foolish people.

      Reply
    145. 145.

      Eyeroller

      September 12, 2023 at 9:35 pm

      @Elizabelle: ​ Circa 1947, before my time, my parents found two raccoon kits on the side of a road, crying beside their dead mother. They took them (illegal, they weren’t wildlife rehabbers, but nobody would have cared then) and somehow managed to raise them. They were a boy and girl they named Tom and Geraldine. I think I have some pictures of them somewhere. Come fall, Tom ran off into the woods and was never seen again, but Geraldine, who had lost her mother and hence did not inherit a territory or her mother’s help, and was habituated to humans, would scratch on screen doors to beg for food. Eventually she too was hit and killed by a car. I’ve always hoped that at least Tom survived and lived a fairly normal raccoon life.​
      ​
      ​

      Reply
    146. 146.

      catclub

      September 12, 2023 at 10:12 pm

      @cain: my first cat one time was in the garden came upon a garden state and proceeded to leap straight up, freaking out and ran away.

       

      Yes, New Jersey is that scary.

      Reply
    147. 147.

      catclub

      September 12, 2023 at 10:15 pm

      @Another Scott: ​
       ground effects! I wonder if it has an active vacuum to hold it in good traction, and I wonder if you could start the ground effects vacuum before the launch.

      Reply
    148. 148.

      catclub

      September 12, 2023 at 10:22 pm

      @Roger Moore: ​
       

      You could have written evidence from the people who drafted the 2nd Amendment that it was only intended to protect the right of states to have militias

      you could also have documents showing that it was to allow states to have slave patrols, and it would still make no difference.

      Reply
    149. 149.

      Burnspbesq

      September 13, 2023 at 12:08 am

      @Baud:

      Another reason to go EV.

      EV drivers can be just as dickish as ICE drivers. Spend a couple of hours at you local Electrify America location and you’ll see some shit …

      Reply
    150. 150.

      Ruckus

      September 13, 2023 at 12:12 am

      @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony:

      He’s probably an asshole

      Is there any doubt whatsoever? I’m having a difficult time believing there is any.

      Reply
    151. 151.

      Ruckus

      September 13, 2023 at 12:15 am

      @HeleninEire:

      @Delk:

      Happy B Day to both of you. Tell me what 61 is like, I’ve forgotten.

      Reply
    152. 152.

      wjca

      September 13, 2023 at 12:16 am

      @Ruckus: Is there any doubt whatsoever? I’m having a difficult time believing there is any.

      Well, I suppose he could be a ATF undercover guy….

      Reply
    153. 153.

      Ruckus

      September 13, 2023 at 12:36 am

      @wjca:

      Shurely you jest.

      Reply
    154. 154.

      Glidwrith

      September 13, 2023 at 12:42 am

      @MomSense: How about the National Archives? They can make sure the documents are preserved and might be able to authenticate them. Perhaps they have some materials in the Archives that would help generate a further chain of evidence to help reinforce the proper interpretation of the 2nd.

      Reply
    155. 155.

      wjca

      September 13, 2023 at 1:05 am

      @Ruckus: Shurely you jest.

      As any decent conspiracy theorist** can tell you, false flags are a thing.

      ** Is such a thing as a decent conspiracy theorist even possible…? Seems unlikely somehow.

      Reply
    156. 156.

      Kayla Rudbek

      September 13, 2023 at 1:29 am

      @Urza: I have been tempted to put a box of nails or tacks close to the tire so that the box gets run over by the tire as the owner drives away…

      Reply
    157. 157.

      Paul in KY

      September 13, 2023 at 8:26 am

      @Bill Arnold: Think it goes back all the way to when our ancestors lived underground (back in Mesozoic).

      Reply
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      MomSense

      September 13, 2023 at 10:50 am

      @Glidwrith:

      Not a bad idea.  We have his militia commission from 1799 as well proving his affiliation.  He was the magistrate for the county so there are a ton of documents referenced in his ledgers which are recorded or entered on the docket, etc.  it’s actually very cool looking through it all.

      Reply
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      Paul in KY

      September 13, 2023 at 11:13 am

      @Baud: Oh, you were on yesterday!

      Reply

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