Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

We’ve had enough carrots to last a lifetime. break out the sticks.

Pessimism assures that nothing of any importance will change.

Hi god, it’s us. Thanks a heap, you’re having a great week and it’s only Thursday!

Fear or fury? The choice is ours.

You are either for trump or for democracy. Pick one.

“I was told there would be no fact checking.”

The line between political reporting and fan fiction continues to blur.

The arc of the moral universe does not bend itself. it is up to us to bend it.

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

Consistently wrong since 2002

“What are Republicans afraid of?” Everything.

Compromise? There is no middle ground between a firefighter and an arsonist.

Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.

We can’t confuse what’s necessary to win elections with the policies that we want to implement when we do.

“Facilitate” is an active verb, not a weasel word.

Accountability, motherfuckers.

Historically it was a little unusual for the president to be an incoherent babbling moron.

Democracy cannot function without a free press.

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.

Republicans: slavery is when you own me. freedom is when I own you.

Celebrate the fucking wins.

Nothing says ‘pro-life’ like letting children go hungry.

If America since Jan 2025 hasn’t broken your heart, you haven’t loved her enough.

This year has been the longest three days of putin’s life.

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I found this vehicle parked next to mine when I was done grocery shopping a while back:

Truck with homemade "2nd AMENDMENT IS MY LAW" sign on top.

In addition to exalting the Second Amendment as the supreme and only law, this person scoffs at the notion that there should be restrictions on owning venomous snakes, which led me to believe the cargo area might well have been a writhing pit of rattlers, copperheads, moccasins, etc.

Did I mention this kook-mobile was right next to my vehicle? 

Friends, I channeled Wonder Woman, seized 10 tote bag handles with two fists, transferred that load of groceries into my car and got the hell out of that parking lot with supernatural swiftness!

That said, I also brake for snakes.

Open thread!

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  3. 3.

    Alison Rose

    JFC. Okay but try as I might, I can’t read the wording underneath the snake or the middle words over the Florida sticker. I see “No one needs a something something but here you are” and “Keep something in Florida”. Anyone got better eyes than me?

  4. 4.

    Raoul Paste

    I don’t think this gentleman is going to have an enjoyable future.  I’m assuming it’s a guy, but who knows?

  6. 6.

    TheOtherHank

    I’ve always thought that these folks don’t get the fact that they’re telling actual tough guys to follow them home and take all their guns.

  8. 8.

    kindness

    What about if the snake is one of those massive non-native boas that someone dumped?  They’re eating everything in the outback of Florida from what we hear.  (Karma aside) Is it OK to run over them?

  10. 10.

    RSA

    That’s one of the jankiest rear window replacements I’ve ever seen. The decaying plywood, the sliding van/RV window, the castoff weatherstripping…

  12. 12.

    CaseyL

    (I’m trying to figure out what that banner or painting (?) is just over the bumper. There’s something that looks like a bear figure on the left.)

    It’s nice of assholes to advertise their assholishness so we can avoid them.

    A couple-few months ago, while on the way back from a beachwalk and lunch, a friend had to stop for gas. The pump space was occupied by a truck whose driver was, in a very leisurely fashion, snack shopping in the attached mart. He was irate that anyone wanted gas and thought he should move. When he did get into his truck (finally) he tore off in a medium-sized rage.

    I didn’t see the back of his truck, but my friend did. She said he had a bumpersticker reading “I love guns.”

    Selfish, thoughtless, easily angered… and loves guns. Delightful fellow; a shining light among his family.​​

  13. 13.

    dmsilev

    I can’t read the text above REWARD on the bumper sticker, but I’ll bet it’s hahaha funny about wanting to hunt some group of people that the car owner doesn’t like.

  15. 15.

    Villago Delenda Est

    I’m sure the “I brake for snakes” dolt also exercises his 2nd Amendment rights as a member of a well regulated militia that drills every Saturday and misses all those college football games.

  16. 16.

    Old School

    @Alison Rose:

    “No one needs a something something but here you are”

    Pretty sure it’s “No one needs a whiny little <garble garble>, but here you are.”

    We need to get Betty a better camera for her phone.

  17. 17.

    tobie

    I remember going to the pet emergency room with a cat in the wee hours of the morning and a man came in with a python (caged). Apparently the python had developed a fungus and was having difficulty eating his dinner of live rodents. The man tried to cozy up to my cat who was freaking the fuck out. He’d been beaten to a pulp by Baltimore’s alley cats and still he knew that with a python in the room he was in mortal danger.

    These we’re innocent times. I remember thinking the guy’s a redneck but I wasn’t terrified he was raging lunatic (barring the fact that he had a pet python)

    ETA: Stay safe out there, BC!

  18. 18.

    laura

    Performative gunnutter just comes accross as flaccid. The deplorable state of their vehicle does the double down- weak, sad, poop.

  20. 20.

    Betty Cracker

    @Old School: I think the missing word was “bitch.”

    PS: I have an iPhone 14 Pro Max — it was operator error (due to giving the truck as wide a berth as possible and surreptitiously snapping the photo in case the weirdo was around) rather than phone camera quality.

  22. 22.

    Doc Sarconic

    @trollhattan: Stick-on faux airbrush wildlife scene with deer etc, very popular with very chic rednecks of the late 70’s early 80’s going by the looks of that old Blazer or Suburban.

  23. 23.

    Scout211

    Just now, driving to the dentist I saw a car rear window sign that made me laugh. A parody of the baby on board/precious cargo signs:

    Hella kids up in here

    Honk if one falls out

    Also, too, we saw two cute baby gopher snakes on our walk last night.  We love our gopher snakes here.  We definitely would brake for them.

  24. 24.

    Old School

    @Betty Cracker: I think that’s probably correct.  I think the other garbled word is “either”.  It seems “bitch” is either slightly censored or a different font.

  26. 26.

    trollhattan

    @Scout211: These began popping up in my metroplex a couple years ago. Very refreshing alternative to “Baby on Board.”

    Ours tend to all read “Hella Kids Up in This Bitch” with and without the second part.

  28. 28.

    Urza

    I’ve never done it, but I always have thoughts of slashing the tires on a vehicle like this.  Someone may have a similar thought as that back window is not from the factory.  Looks hand made and can’t imagine doing that unless you had to replace the original.

  31. 31.

    Maxim

    @Betty Cracker: Ah, I zoomed in and could make out “no one needs a ??? little ??? either …” so that makes sense.

    I tried to make out the one on the left too. The long word sure looks like “pizzeria,” which I suppose could make sense (for very flexible definitions of that phrase) in a QAnon context.

  33. 33.

    Burnspbesq

    I’ve been otherwise engaged for most of the day, so apologies if this has already been discussed, but …

    Didja see the order the Eleventh Circuit entered today in Meadows’ appeal of the district court’s order remanding his case to state court? Talk about coming out of left field …

    The court ordered briefing, by COB tomorrow, on whether federal-officer removal under 28 USC section 1442(a) applies to current and former officers, or only current officers.  The district court assumed it did, but if you sets ubsections (a) and (b) next to each other, they are meaningfully different.

    Trump, Meadows, and all the rest of the defendants who have filed notices of removal might very well be hosed.

  35. 35.

    NutmegAgain

    I passed some a-hole on the highway yesterday who had all sorts of very elaborate anti-Biden shit plastered over their car. Like, very elaborate!  Took all my willpower not to flip them off. Even here in true-blue CT, a maniac like that is liable to be violent & dangerous. Kind of a travelling MAGA-bomb. These damned people! Imagine if they took all that time, energy & money to create something good.

  36. 36.

    HeleninEire

    So tomorrow is a big day. It’s my 61st birthday. No way would I have ever thought I would make it to 61. And, by the way, I feel 30!!! But more importantly, 2 1/2 years from tomorrow… March 13, 2026 I can retire. YAY, me.

  37. 37.

    Amy!

    I’m pretty sure that the snake sticker is another pro-gun sticker, attempting to satirize the argument that no one needs a semi-automatic bang bang death stick (presumably, they think guns breed, too).

    On top:

    No one needs to own

    venomous   [snek]

    reptiles        [more snek]

    No one needs a vicious

    little rattle snake.

    But here you are …

    Anyway, I could be wrong, but I think that’s it, blurry as it is. I can’t find an example by searching what ought to be keywords, either.

  38. 38.

    Elizabelle

    @trollhattan: from your link:

    Perth Zoo reassured 9 News that “the possum was sighted scurrying off after being evicted. They are a very robust species.”

    The Perth Zoo told 7 News that “the orangutan habitat is an outside environment and possums, who also live at height, just like the orangutans, have been known to inhabit the above-ground territories.”

    “Whilst every effort is made to prevent (possums) from entering, the sheer height provides some challenges and sometimes the orangutans evict the odd possum themselves,” zoo officials told 7 News.

    Robust? Uh huh. I hope they are aerodynamic.

    The comments on the Yahoo article are hilarious, most of them.

  39. 39.

    mrmoshpotato

    @trollhattan: “Perth Zoo reassured 9 News that “the possum was sighted scurrying off after being evicted. They are a very robust species.”

    And occasionally involuntarily flying!

  40. 40.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    Story about living among old people.

    As most of you know, I live in an over-55 condo building. There are raised garden beds that residents can claim, and at this time of year, they’re full of flowers and produce. My friend Doris is 90. She has one of the gardens, plus her first floor windows look directly at the gardens. Last week she saw a woman strolling through, pushing a walker with a basket on it into which she was gathering flowers. Doris knows damn well who has gardens out there and this woman wasn’t one of them.

    So Doris grabs her cane, goes out there, and tells the lady with the walker that she shouldn’t be picking other people’s flowers. The walker lady says, “Oh yes, I’ve seen the signs but I’m just taking a few.” Doris was so mad that she ratted out the lady to management, who are now trying to decide how to “handle the situation.”

    LOL. I wouldn’t have management’s job for all the tea in China.

  41. 41.

    Jay

    @Urza:

    back in the day, when big chunks of the #1 through the Lower Rainland were single lane each way, a-hole would rip up the  emergency lane, then cut in.

    My brother had a box of roofing nails open on the passenger seat, with the passenger window down.

    You had to watch your passenger side mirror carefully, anyway,…….

  44. 44.

    Roger Moore

    I’m also curious about what I assume are wolf stickers on the back window.  I know people love doing these as a representation of their family, so is this person suggesting they have a blended family with one parent having a single child and the other having five?

  49. 49.

    frosty

    @CaseyL: The pump space was occupied by a truck whose driver was, in a very leisurely fashion, snack shopping in the attached mart.

    I’ve found that this is common practice everywhere in recent years. Pisses me off no end.

  50. 50.

    Steve in the ATL

    Saw a man at ATL this morning carrying a camo NRA bag as his carry on.  Topped a few minutes later by the man with a “Lynyrd Skynyrd A Simple Man Cruise VII” luggage tag.

    I assume both travelers had just gotten off flights from somewhere in Florida….

     

  52. 52.

    stinger

    Maybe because I just watched season 1, epsiode 1 of NYPD Blue, I believe the snake image says “No one needs a pissy little bitch either But here you are”. Both “pissy” and “bitch” seem to have been altered, or maybe those aren’t the words.

  55. 55.

    frosty

    @HeleninEire: Hang in there! I’ve been retired almost three years now and I highly recommend it. No more juggling vacation days if you want to hit the road (or Dublin or wherever!)​
     

    ETA: Of course you feel 30, everyone does. Or maybe 28, like me.

  58. 58.

    Kelly

    Around here obscuring the view out the back window of your pickup will a huge “Oregunian” over an AR 15 silhouette decal is the happy friendly thing I see in parking  lots.

  59. 59.

    Anne Laurie

    @Roger Moore: I’m also curious about what I assume are wolf stickers on the back window. I know people love doing these as a representation of their family, so is this person suggesting they have a blended family with one parent having a single child and the other having five?

    Not an expert, but yeah — around here, it would indicate a man with one kid who married a woman with five.

    Which, from my (biased) perspective, would indicate that the ‘venomous reptile’ was a defensive ‘joke’, because surely even a woman who’d marry a dude driving that vehicle wouldn’t let him keep poisonous snakes in the same house with her five kids?

    (Or maybe she’s just bad at contraception, and tired of parenting?)

  60. 60.

    HeleninEire

    @frosty: Plans are already made. It will be summers in Dublin as my base to travel the continent (and probably farther). I already have my accommodations settled with a friend. The rest of the year here in NY.

  63. 63.

    Rusty

    Reminds me of right after TFG got elected, I was at the local Wegmans supermarket which thoughtly placed a couple of parking spots near the front for shoppers that were pregnant or had small children.  At 5:00 as everyone is trying to pick up stuff on the way home, a jackass in a jacked up, black crew cab pickup had parked diagonally across several slots.  The truck had of course a Gadsden flag, NRA decal and a Trump bumper sticker.  As I was taking a picture this guy comes out alone and is pissed I am taking a picture of his truck.  He starts to beef with me but I just ignored him and went into the store.  I knew the next 4 years were going to be a mess with every asshole feeling free to express themselves due to Trump.  I wasn’t wrong.

  65. 65.

    Baud

    @Jay:

    Keep in mind that they are Australian possums, not North American ones.

     

    “What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen possum?”

    “What do you mean? An Australian or North American possum?”

    “Huh? I… I don’t know that.”

  67. 67.

    Alison Rose

    This is cool — I don’t cook but I know a lot of you do, and World Central Kitchen has a cookbook out!

    A captivating collection of stories and recipes from renowned chefs, local cooks, and celebrity friends of José Andrés’s beloved nonprofit World Central Kitchen (WCK), which feeds communities impacted by natural disasters and humanitarian crises; with a foreword from Stephen Colbert.

    In their first cookbook, WCK shares recipes inspired by the many places they’ve cooked following disasters as well as inspiring narratives from the chefs and volunteers on the front lines. Photographs captured throughout the world highlight community and hope while stunning food photography showcases the mouthwatering recipes.

    Each chapter reflects a value of the organization. “Urgency” focuses on food that can be eaten on the go, including the Lahmajoun Flatbread served after a devastating explosion rocked Beirut in 2020. In “Hope,” readers will find soups, stews, and comforting meals such as Ukrainian Borsch served to families living through an unthinkable invasion and Chicken Chili Verde prepared for California firefighters. Famous WCK supporters have shared recipes too, like Breakfast Tacos from Michelle Obama and a Lemon Olive Oil Cake from Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex. Other contributors include Marcus Samuelsson, Ayesha Curry, Reem Assil, Brooke Williamson, Emeril Lagasse, Tyler Florence, Guy Fieri, Sanjeev Kapoor, and Eric Adjepong.

  71. 71.

    Elizabelle

    @Jay:   From your wiki link (and those possums be cute):

    Female young have a higher survival rate than their male counterparts due to establishing their home ranges closer to their mothers, while males travel farther in search of new nesting sites, encountering established territories from which they may be forcibly ejected.

    Tell us about it!

    Brushtail possums compete with each other and other animals for den spaces, and this contributes to their mortality.

    Sometimes spectacularly.

    Article is silent on whether possums can fly.

    I am gonna hope that some do.

  72. 72.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    I just feel really sorry for the kids.

    You know those guns aren’t secured. Somebody is going to end up shot
    He clearly can’t afford his family. He can’t even afford to repair his window
    He’s probably an asshole

  74. 74.

    NotMax

    @Rusty

    Passed by the parking lot of an office building when in NY. Unusual layout of the lot.

    Row A of parking slots against a fence abutting the building, row B directly behind, with no separation of any kind other than the line painted on the pavement between the rows. Then an open lane and rows C and D in the same layout on the other side of the lot.

    Anyhoo, saw a shiny tricked out Range Rover parked there, smack in the middle of multiple spaces (2 in row A, two in row B), effectively occupying four parking slots for a single vehicle.

  77. 77.

    Dan B

    @Alison Rose: That sounds fantastic!  Marcus Samuelson was here in Seattle and went to places (Foo Lee Market, Filipino with a steam table and many odd cuts of meat and strange fish) near us that we’d gone to for years.  We freaked out at the sight of Foo Lee just a mile from us and ten short blocks from my partner’s house.

  81. 81.

    bbleh

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: @Maxim: I would propose a solution whereby said lady contributes some labor to said flower garden, which would redound to everyone’s benefit.

    Or, I suppose there’s always the Putin solution, but that seems a little harsh in this case …

  82. 82.

    Tazj

    @NutmegAgain: I get tempted too. You’ll see enough of those “Let’s go Brandon!” and F*ck Biden stickers here in NY. They are usually accompanied by some crazy gun and NRA ones on the back of a pickup truck. I have to remind myself and sometimes my son that those people would love the attention and may also be violent.

  83. 83.

    NotMax

    FYI.

    Leasing an electric vehicle (EV) is now the cheapest option for new car buyers across the United States – thousands of dollars cheaper per year than buying or leasing a gasoline-powered vehicle.

    This new economic dynamic is being driven by several factors: Falling EV lease prices, new federal tax incentives from the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA), lower operating and maintenance costs of EVs compared to gas-powered vehicles, and rising interest rates. Source

  84. 84.

    Yarrow

    Since we’re talking about vehicles, guess what sort of car was a complete dickwad today when we were all stuck in stop and go traffic on the freeway? That’s right, a Dodge Charger. Of course. Bright green so you couldn’t miss it.

    The driver accelerated around several cars when there wasn’t really room, cut off another vehicle and almost caused an accident, And good for them. They got two vehicles ahead of where they were before.

  85. 85.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @tobie:

    his dinner of live rodents.

    Feeding a snake live rodents is both cruel and irresponsible.  Rats in particular are known to bite out a snake’s eye on the way down.  Zoo standard is to kill the rat immediately before feeding and offer it on long-ass tongs with some wiggling to signal it’s food grade meat and not carrion.

    @Baud:

    I thought possums could fly.

    Look up ‘sugar glider’.

  87. 87.

    sab

    @trollhattan: Yikes! Apparently aussie possums, being arboreal, are a lot more aerodynamic than american opossums. More like tossing a squirrel out of a tree. They generally are okay.

  89. 89.

    Eyeroller

    @Elizabelle: This is the case for a lot of mammals, though.  Among carnivores, e.g. bears and raccoons, the mothers share some of their territory with their daughters, but males are on their own.  A lot of the little raccoons we see as roadkill in the eastern US in September-October are that year’s baby boys, who generally leave their natal range and search for territory while the daughters stay closer to home.  Similarly for many ungulates, where daughters (and males up to a year) stay in their maternal herds.  In the case of ungulates the young males are often driven away, but in other species the boys leave on their own.

  90. 90.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Wag: ​
     

    Even pythons?

    They’re her holy grail.

    (gotta do something after being beaten to the Australian possum v. North American possum joke!)

  95. 95.

    eversor

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    Years ago, when I still had alergies and could not keep a furry critter as even one in the house would cause me to have death level asthma attacks, I had a “small: python.  These are alergenic.  Loved him to death.  Wasn’t much fun as a pet, but it was a little critter I could take care of and he did love me in his own way.  Reptiles make great pets for alergic kids like me.  I loved that snake.  His name was Satan, which my parents thought was horrid but it was my pet damn it!

    Anyways Satan would only eat live prey.  When feeding a largish snake there’s three ways to do it.  The first is just live prey, and honestly this is the most honest way about it.   The second is prey you kill, some snakes will not eat this.  The third is pre killed animals, even more snakes will not eat this.  So you are forced into “place snake in room, throw animal into it, close door so you don’t get hit” territory.

    You can’t change it.  Won’t work.  My allergies are long gone and now I have a cat and it freely murders anything it can get close to so I’m not going to lose sleep about the mice, rabbits, chickens, the snake ate it’s all the same shit.  Predators going to predator.  It’s not just who they are it’s what they are.  I don’t know what the killing process of the fetal pinky mice we tried to feed Satan was.  I know my cracking of necks wasn’t pleasant, you know, they died!  I’m sure his coil of doom sucked biggy but snake gonna snake.  But none of that is more gory than watching the current fed cat massacre squirels and birds at whim and with great glee in her actions.  Even by being fed live animals the snake caused less deaths than the cat did, so you know, who’s the monster?

    I’d let you know about the fish war we created as kids but they aren’t furry so nobody fucking cares.

  96. 96.

    dexwood

    Oh, man, that truck, Betty. And, yet, I have hope. Neighbor down the street drives a giant black truck. Since Biden’s election Ultra Maga Patriot and Fuck Joe Biden have adorned his back window. After the Orange Asshole’s 4th indictment, both have been removed. For the right reasons? Who knows.

  98. 98.

    narya

    CDC recommends the new vaccine for everybody, and pharmacies expect to have supply by the end of the week.

  104. 104.

    Jeffro

    OT but David French and Michelle Goldberg have up (unintentional) companion op-eds in That Paper today and I’m hoping that one of the front-pagers will do a post on them in another thread tonight or tomorrow.

    It’s kind of like “put up or shut up, GOP” and “here’s why the GOP can’t put up or shut up”

  106. 106.

    MomSense

    I could really use some assistance from the jackal pack mind.  I have original documents proving the well regulated part of the 2nd amendment.  Fines assessed for failure to clean their muskets properly, late to muster etc.  I have the ledgers showing the fines, the names of the militia members, the commander of the militia, the writs.  I sent some photos of some of the documents to a professor suggested here, but I never heard back from him.

  109. 109.

    wjca

    @Jay: The free gun is under the drivers seat.

    Which is entirely acceptable.  Provided it is aimed up thru the seat at all times.

  110. 110.

    Jay

    @Tazj:

    “round here, if you are smart, you don’t “sticker” your truck.

    It just tells thieves what’s inside.

    At the Refinery, during the upgrade, there were a bunch of trucks with “PureBlood” stickers and “Fuck Trudeau” stickers, with Alberta plates. They all got broken into and many guns and drugs were stolen.

    @brantl:

    We used to tack them up into caltrops with Dad’s MIG Welder, just to “practice” our welding skills.

  111. 111.

    Elizabelle

    @Eyeroller:  That makes me sad, about the little [boy] raccooons.

    More on: The Perils of Australia.  Water Hazard:  Sharks on the 14th Hole.

    They aren’t there any more, but there had been six bull sharks in a golf course’s 51-acre lake near the 14th hole, for 17 years.  The young sharks got swept onto the golf course in a 1996  flood, and eventually escaped in another one.

    Scientifically interesting because they survived, longterm, in almost fresh water.  Although they didn’t breed with each other.

    Maybe now they are out there, living large and spawning.

    Free link to the FTF NY Times (because it’s always more pleasant to read their Science articles than the crap they serve up on US politics.  Did you know that Biden is old?  And unpopular?)

    Anyway:  Free link.  Worth clicking for the photo of a large shark fin in a small lake, if you don’t read a word.

    Sharks on a Golf Course Made a Watery Grave Unlike Any Other

    A group of bull sharks ended up spending 17 years in a lake by a golf course’s 14th hole, suggesting that the predators can live in low-saltwater environments indefinitely.

    … Extreme floods like the ones that washed sharks in and out of Carbrook Golf Club are becoming more common, and more bull sharks could end up marooned in lakes, lagoons and ponds. Although you are highly unlikely to encounter a bull shark in your local swimming hole, Dr. Gausmann recommends avoiding bodies of water recently affected by flooding.

    “You should never bathe in stagnant bodies of water that once had a connection to the sea. You never know if sharks are living there,” he said, although people in urban areas may not need to worry, as urban floodwaters are often too toxic to sustain marine life.

  112. 112.

    brantl

    @MomSense:  Send them to the anti-guns-moms organization, I can’t remember the name of the group, they take no prisoners.

    Or conversely or also, send it to Wikipedia? Please, if you stash it anywhere on line, let me know, I would like a copy.

  114. 114.

    sab

    @MomSense: No useful advice for you, but how very interesting that such documents are still in existence.

    “Fines for failure to clean muskets properly.”  That doesn’t sound like freedumb to me.

  118. 118.

    Roger Moore

    @MomSense:
    It’s great to have the documents you’ve found, but I don’t think it will actually make any difference.  The rulings on the 2nd Amendment were purely political; the historical side was just window dressing.  You could have written evidence from the people who drafted the 2nd Amendment that it was only intended to protect the right of states to have militias and had nothing to do with personal gun ownership, and the hacks on the Supreme Court would ignore it.​
    ETA: This came across as too negative. I don’t know who the right person to send the documentation to is, but it’s probably someone who’s working on the political side of guns, not the legal side.

  122. 122.

    Subsole

    @Jay:

    I remember this ex-con I used to know. Said the first thing he always looked for when he was deciding whose house to break into was one of those “we don’t call 911” stickers.

  123. 123.

    Jay

    @wjca:

    Years ago here, there was a Mob Hit. The Hitman took a chunk of 12 gauge heavy wall conduit pipe, cut it to length, slid in a 12 gauge Buckshot shotgun shell, glued a tack to the primer, wedged it under the victims seat. They figure he “slim jimmed” the door lock.

    When the victim sat down on the set,……… boom.

  125. 125.

    MomSense

    @brantl:

    Good idea.  Moms Demand and Everytown would be a good place.  I have a photo on my phone of one from May 1, 1821 with a list of names and the amounts of the fines etc.  I could send it to WG or Betty to post.

  126. 126.

    Jeffro

    btw comedian Blaire Erskine (commenting on Sen Kennedy’s X-rated ‘reading’ carried live on C-SPAN today) noted that

    this is my family reading my texts after I die

    LOLOLOL

    also, the comments on X-Twitter are comedy. gold.

  127. 127.

    sab

    Re Betty Cracker ‘s photo: I don’t think this truck owner was a midwestern snowbird. Pure homegrown Florida there (unless wandered in from Georgia or Alabama.)

  128. 128.

    Betty

    @MomSense: There is a group in California that is researching this information to present to legislators. Maybe you can Google them and hook up with their effort.

  129. 129.

    sab

    @MomSense: Does anybody around here know how DocumentCloud works?  I don’t, but people who do useful investigative stuff use it. Mostly reporters.

  131. 131.

    Elizabelle

    The Sandy Hook kids would be graduating high school in 2023 or 2024.

    If they had been given the chance to grow up.

  132. 132.

    Jay

    @Subsole:

    First truck I had, well, couldn’t afford much, but I could afford a flashing red LED plugged into the cigarette lighter. Worked like a charm, because only the really expensive alarm/immobilizers back then had the flashing LED.

    The back up was a $2.50 electrical keyswitch under the dash. About the same quality as the locks you get on the bottom drawer of cubicle furniture. But it was wired into the electrical fuel pump.

    So they could start the truck, and get less than 100 feet before it would stall.

  134. 134.

    Roger Moore

    @Baud:

    I agree it will be overturned when the politics of the court changes, but that’s more about changing the political environment than about coming up with a more convincing legal argument.  Where this kind of document might be useful is for the people trying to change that political environment.  I suppose it might be useful cover for a justice overturning Heller, because it might let them vote the other way using the same legal framework, but I think that’s less important than changing the legal framework used to support the decision.

  135. 135.

    Captain C

    @TheOtherHank: Either that or:

    “I shot him.”

    “Why?”

    “I was in fear for my life.  He was a frothy MAGAt with guns.”

    “You shot him in the back!”

    “His back was to me.”

  137. 137.

    Mike in Pasadena

    @Burnspbesq: I might see what you refer to. (b) refers to who is or at the time of the alleged action was an officer, while (a) does not have the langauge “or at the time of the alleged action”. Rules of statutory interpretation usually mean that subsection (a) only applies to folks who are currently officers. Is that what you see?

  138. 138.

    Ruckus

    @RSA:

    Well when you spend every spare dime on a new gun, so you will have 200-300 when you need them because the shit might hit the fan and whata ya gunna do then? I mean his amendment allows him to have more guns than a gun shop, so that he will never run out when the cops show up to arrest him for all the vehicle offenses, parking and driving or a person of color moves within 27.6 miles of him… Or maybe it will be a black police officer! OMG!

  140. 140.

    Ruckus

    @Burnspbesq:

    Trump, Meadows, and all the rest of the defendants who have filed notices of removal might very well be hosed.

    I sure hope so….

    Also I’m not surprised if they screwed themselves. I mean really whata ya gunna do with an IQ maybe as high up as in the low 80s.

  143. 143.

    cain

    @Bill Arnold: I hear ya, my first cat one time was in the garden came upon a garden state and proceeded to leap straight up, freaking out and ran away. This cat is usually not afraid of anything or anyone – but damn did he hate snakes.

  145. 145.

    Eyeroller

    @Elizabelle: ​ Circa 1947, before my time, my parents found two raccoon kits on the side of a road, crying beside their dead mother. They took them (illegal, they weren’t wildlife rehabbers, but nobody would have cared then) and somehow managed to raise them. They were a boy and girl they named Tom and Geraldine. I think I have some pictures of them somewhere. Come fall, Tom ran off into the woods and was never seen again, but Geraldine, who had lost her mother and hence did not inherit a territory or her mother’s help, and was habituated to humans, would scratch on screen doors to beg for food. Eventually she too was hit and killed by a car. I’ve always hoped that at least Tom survived and lived a fairly normal raccoon life.​
    ​
    ​

  146. 146.

    catclub

    @cain: my first cat one time was in the garden came upon a garden state and proceeded to leap straight up, freaking out and ran away.

     

    Yes, New Jersey is that scary.

  147. 147.

    catclub

    @Another Scott: ​
     ground effects! I wonder if it has an active vacuum to hold it in good traction, and I wonder if you could start the ground effects vacuum before the launch.

  148. 148.

    catclub

    @Roger Moore: ​
     

    You could have written evidence from the people who drafted the 2nd Amendment that it was only intended to protect the right of states to have militias

    you could also have documents showing that it was to allow states to have slave patrols, and it would still make no difference.

  149. 149.

    Burnspbesq

    @Baud:

    Another reason to go EV.

    EV drivers can be just as dickish as ICE drivers. Spend a couple of hours at you local Electrify America location and you’ll see some shit …

  152. 152.

    wjca

    @Ruckus: Is there any doubt whatsoever? I’m having a difficult time believing there is any.

    Well, I suppose he could be a ATF undercover guy….

  154. 154.

    Glidwrith

    @MomSense: How about the National Archives? They can make sure the documents are preserved and might be able to authenticate them. Perhaps they have some materials in the Archives that would help generate a further chain of evidence to help reinforce the proper interpretation of the 2nd.

  155. 155.

    wjca

    @Ruckus: Shurely you jest.

    As any decent conspiracy theorist** can tell you, false flags are a thing.

    ** Is such a thing as a decent conspiracy theorist even possible…? Seems unlikely somehow.

  158. 158.

    MomSense

    @Glidwrith:

    Not a bad idea.  We have his militia commission from 1799 as well proving his affiliation.  He was the magistrate for the county so there are a ton of documents referenced in his ledgers which are recorded or entered on the docket, etc.  it’s actually very cool looking through it all.

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