ICYMI:
Starting today, every household can order another free round of COVID tests – shipped straight to your door.
Head to https://t.co/GqK9GmYJE2 to order yours. pic.twitter.com/LUg77yZLhU
— The White House (@WhiteHouse) September 25, 2023
Weekly #Covid hospitalizations reach 20,000 for the 1st time since March but new vaccine could help, public health experts say. Weekly hospitalizations increased 7.7%, CDC data shows https://t.co/bPK1zK7Qa6
— delthia ricks 🔬 (@DelthiaRicks) September 26, 2023
Frustrated by the problems with the rollout of the updated #Covid shots? This is what vaccine rollouts look like when the federal govt isn't pulling all the levers, when market forces are steering the ship, experts say. "Gen. Perna is no longer in charge." https://t.co/jTNwVhB9FM
— Helen Branswell 🇺🇦 (@HelenBranswell) September 26, 2023
As #Covid hospitalizations climb, rates among seniors & children are raising concern. ~20,500 people in the US were admitted to the hospital w/ Covid during the wk ending Sept 9, according to data from the CDC – about 8% higher than the previous wk https://t.co/HPpyTO5wLk
— delthia ricks 🔬 (@DelthiaRicks) September 24, 2023
Your fall #COVID19 vaccine insurance coverage "cheat sheet" from @cynthiaccox and me. https://t.co/lmHGCgoG1y
— Jen Kates (@jenkatesdc) September 22, 2023

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Vaccine-induced immune response to #Omicron wanes substantially over time. Although booster shots in adults elicit high levels of neutralizing antibodies against Omicron variants, antibody levels decrease substantially w/in 3 months. New data #SARSCoV2 https://t.co/haNOdrLtxW
— delthia ricks 🔬 (@DelthiaRicks) September 25, 2023
… “Wait about 3 months after recovery from infection to get the immunization,” William Schaffner, MD, of Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, Tennessee, told MedPage Today. “That way the immune system will respond best to this shot. We know that the longer duration from the last stimulus, the somewhat better the response.”
Some experts think the interval can go even a bit longer.
John Moore, PhD, a virologist at Weill Cornell Medicine in New York City, said there should be at least 4 months between infection and another shot.
Paul Sax, MD, clinical director of the division of infectious diseases at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, said “even 6 [months] is reasonable” to wait before getting a new shot.
Moore said there’s evidence “suggesting that a short interval can compromise the ability of the booster to trigger a strong antibody response” — something the CDC acknowledges in its official recommendations.
“Studies have shown that increased time between infection and vaccination might result in an improved immune response to vaccination,” the CDC guidance states. “Also, a low risk of reinfection has been observed in the weeks to months following infection.”
While there are several studies supporting the notion of better results with a longer interval, Moore said a September 2022 paper inopens in a new tab or window Cell stands out, showing that people who got a booster dose within 2 months of infection didn’t have a robust neutralizing antibody or memory B-cell response compared with those who were boosted and didn’t have a recent infection…
Pfizer Inc's chief executive said on Tuesday that almost 250,000 courses of the drugmaker's oral antiviral COVID-19 treatment Paxlovid were being administered per week as cases surged in the United States. https://t.co/bm3rJTFsBZ
— Reuters Health (@Reuters_Health) September 27, 2023
If you are immunocompromised or age 65+, please consider joining our study that provides free molecular Covid tests, telemedicine, and rapid Paxlovid home delivery. @ScrippsRTI @scrippsresearch @CueHealth @julialmv https://t.co/Szw2SHM5k7
— Eric Topol (@EricTopol) September 25, 2023
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Can’t say we didn’t try to warn you…
China’s ‘batwoman’ scientist warns another coronavirus outbreak is ‘highly likely’
One of China’s best-known virologists Shi Zhengli, also known as “batwoman”, has warned that it is “highly likely” another coronavirus will appear in future.https://t.co/uZ5xpPRCmR
— SARS‑CoV‑2 (COVID-19) (@COVID19_disease) September 25, 2023
A Chinese vlogger is sharing his experiences at a wet market in Laos. There, he encountered a young clouded leopard, flying squirrels, bats, exotic birds, and other wildlife. Let's stop consuming wild animals recklessly; that's how COVID-19 originated! So stupid. pic.twitter.com/xDWQGD3IF1
— evelyn0411 (@current0411) September 24, 2023
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The European Union is in talks with Moderna over a new supply deal for the company's COVID-19 vaccines amid concerns over a rise in infections in the region, the Financial Times reported on Tuesday, citing two people familiar with the matter. https://t.co/41kj0vWDcA
— Reuters Health (@Reuters_Health) September 26, 2023
New Covid and flu dashboard launched for England https://t.co/nuaoeQqnkb
— BBC Health News (@bbchealth) September 26, 2023
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Canadian COVID Forecast
Sep 23-Oct 6, 2023SEVERE: CAN, BC, NB, NL, North, NS, ON, PEI, QC, SK
About 1 in 29 people are currently infected pic.twitter.com/M0d3MqPhyU
— Tara Moriarty (@MoriartyLab) September 25, 2023
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Nasal vax on the horizon! https://t.co/ITD9yswyZu pic.twitter.com/CsCFrAwGZL
— delthia ricks 🔬 (@DelthiaRicks) September 24, 2023
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“Their research found patients who had COVID-19 were 60% more likely to suffer from mental health problems than those who were not infected. When hospitalized, the likelihood jumped to 86%.”
We are *deliberately* ignoring this & normalizing reinfection. https://t.co/LR6pW6GGr8 pic.twitter.com/oC6gvYpJKx
— Laura Miers (@LauraMiers) September 24, 2023
New material captures viral particles—including #SARSCoV2—& could transform face mask efficiency. UK scientists created new material. Particles attach to silica in a *bioaerosol capture.* New material used in conventional mask was ~93% more efficient https://t.co/9M9bCatJiN #Mask
— delthia ricks 🔬 (@DelthiaRicks) September 26, 2023
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New poll:
Signal of change of direction on the pandemic.
Many Americans (about 50%) want a mask mandate.
By party reported:
75% of Democrats,
33% of Republicans, and
45% independentsThis would be impossible to see from most reports in the press. https://t.co/LyNbehsGA3
— Yaneer Bar-Yam (@yaneerbaryam) September 26, 2023
Anti-vaccine groups are now rolling in cash https://t.co/gWssQaw6AL
— POLITICO (@politico) September 24, 2023
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My good sir, those are AIR BUBBLES between the glass slide and cover slip.
Someone did a VERY lousy job prepping those slides. That’s all that is. pic.twitter.com/wVe0fUMcK6
— Chise ?????????????? (@sailorrooscout) September 25, 2023
I sometimes wonder if there’s a deeper seated psychological urge to just get past COVID and back to before it in more ways than I would ever have imagined. Like we as a society don’t even want to learn lessons from it because that would require looking squarely at it.
— The Fig Economy (@figgityfigs) September 12, 2023
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Ceci n est pas mon nym
We just got back from an overseas trip on Saturday.
And we both tested positive on Tuesday.
eclare
I didn’t have any issues getting my shot, Moderna at Walgreens, and it was free. But I looked at the receipt/info, and it said “your insurance saved you $155.99.”
That is the retail cost?
eclare
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
Oh gosh, I hope you both have very mild cases.
Scout211
Thank you AL, for posting these weekly COVID threads. You can’t read these kinds of news stories in the mainstream news these days.
I clicked through to the sad Paul Simon story. I was surprised to know that he is 81. He says that he frustrated by the hearing loss but he admitted that he was ready to stop performing live shows and is somewhat relieved that he can’t anymore. But still, a sad story.
Also, an update on a discussion from last week regarding the RSV vaccination for 60+ year olds, children under 2 and pregnant people. Four states require a doctor’s prescription for that vaccination: Georgia, Iowa, Missouri and Utah
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Oh boo. I’m sorry.
We both got our shots on Monday. We had no appointments but Jewel-Osco gave them to us anyway when we asked.
Scott
I keep reading about problems about rolling out updated COVID vaccines . Just scheduled mine at 1000 today at Walgreens. Lots of slots open around the city (San Antonio). Is it regional? Or what?
Getting flu at the same time.
narya
I am so very glad I was able to get in first thing last Monday; the last thing I want to bring to my parents is Covid. I’ve increased my masking again, too, and I expect to be masked up whenever I’m around others during my travels. At least I won’t have to sit next to anyone for the bulk of the trip (sleeping car on Amtrak), and it turns out I can get my meals in my room. I might even skip Saturday’s 5k–they have an outdoor area, but it’s a schlep on the train & bus.
Another Scott
I heard yesterday that a couple of work colleagues (in DC) tested positive about 5 days ago. :-/
AFAIK, as soon as we heard from China in January 2020 that the disease was caused by a corona virus, then experts knew that there would be no permanent immunity. None of the other human corona viruses give permanent immunity after recovery from infection. The perpetual stories about “immunity wanes…” seem kinda lazy without pointing out that fact. E.g. ScienceDirect.com:
We’re going to need regular immunizations – this shouldn’t be breathless news any more.
Stay safe everyone!
Thanks AL!!
Cheers,
Scott.
Matt McIrvin
Rasmussen is a right-leaning poll organization and Newsweek is a reactionary rag. I wonder if that poll was concocted to make Democrats look like crazy COVID alarmists. In the blue-state places I go, mask-wearing is still pretty rare though not unheard of.
Soprano2
@Scout211: Oh, that’s a state requirement. I wondered about that. We both had to get prescriptions for it. Hubby had his last Sunday. I use a different pharmacy, so I’ll get mine later.
Now I have to decide when to get the Covid vaccine. We had Covid at the end of June, so 4 months would be end of October. I don’t want to wait 6 months.
Matt McIrvin
@Scott: During the first round of vaccinations I remember people going to Republican areas to get shots because they had open appointment slots there while blue cities were slammed.
Soprano2
@Matt McIrvin: I know I live in a conservative area, but I don’t believe that poll. I think the numbers are much lower than that. I cannot imagine that 75% of Democrats are for bringing back a universal mask mandate, and I’d be surprised if 5% of Republicans were for it. That ship has sailed, and it’s not coming back.
Matt McIrvin
@Soprano2: These recommendations are frustrating: they tell you to wait 4-6 months but for at least half that time you’ll have no antibody protection. I also wonder if from a general policy perspective it isn’t better to say something simple even if it’s suboptimal, to keep people from getting frustrated and skipping vaccination entirely.
Burrowing Owl
Got family vaccinated, once I called private insurance to learn CVS is out of network and to go to Walgreens. Very busy at Walgreens where they offer shots only by appointment—they are vaccinating all day and booked into October. (Northern Colorado)
As always I appreciate the updates here!
narya
@Soprano2: The places I’m most likely to see people masked are retail shops–coffee shops, grocery stores–and it’s both workers and customers, with a higher percentage of the former masking up. Public transportation varies, though I take it so rarely I’m not sure what the real mask-wearing is. (At this past week’s 5k, I was the only person who wore a mask inside the (small, crowded) bar; I took it off when we were sitting at a table 6 feet or so from others, but wasn’t excited about it.)
NeenerNeener
Monroe County, NY:
The NYS website I was using is updating again. Maybe because the COVID numbers shot up again.
72 new cases on 09/16/23.
52 new cases on 09/17/23.
46 new cases on 09/18/23.
157 new cases on 09/19/23 (yikes!).
105 new cases on 09/20/23.
68 new cases on 09/21/23.
58 new cases on 09/22/23.
45 new cases on 09/23/23.
29 new cases on 09/24/23.
Deaths now at 2320, up 13 from the beginning of the month.
I took a PCR test at CVS 2 weeks ago because of a persistent sore throat. The good news: cause was not COVID. The bad news: cause was a tooth abcess.
One of my co-workers came back from a vacation in South Carolina. She caught COVID in Charleston. She had stopped getting vaxed after the first booster shot, so it’s not that surprising.
Soprano2
@Matt McIrvin: I would always err on the side of simple when it comes to a message like that. One of the problems with the CDC during Covid was their muddled message, because scientists want to be exact and include every possibility. They need a good PR person who can boil it down to a simple message everyone can understand.
Jeffg166
I don’t need a mask mandate, I will wear one. If other choose not to it’s on them whatever happens.
Jeffg166
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Probably the plane ride home in a confined space for that long.
Cameron
I don’t know what Pudding Hands and his trick doctor have in mind for Florida and I really don’t want to find out. Got the shot a week ago and will continue with N95 masks forever. Also use neti pot a couple times a week and pop GABA every night. Can’t hurt,right?
Jeffg166
@eclare: At this point that is a “reasonable “ price. Big pharma has the government bought and paid for.
Jeffg166
@Scout211: Baby boomers are facing mortality and not liking it very much. Being in the group it surprises me the amount of denial that is pervasive.
Raven
Shot tomorrow at CVS
Alabama Blue Dot
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: My husband and I have avoided Covid but we got it when we were in France (returned late Friday night and both tested positive Saturday).
eclare
@Soprano2:
The communications from the CDC, especially from the director (Rachelle?) were awful. She definitely had ivory tower disease and a complete lack of understanding for how humans behave.
Her thought behind saying if you’re vaxxed, you don’t need a mask, was that that will get more people to get vaxxed. Oops! People stopped wearing masks, regardless of vax status.
Anyway
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
Aww, that sucks, hope it’s mild and both of you have a speedy recovery.
I got back from Europe (France and Switzerland) two weeks ago and don’t seem to have picked up anything on my travels. Digits crossed (So far Covid-free).
Cameron
@eclare: RSV shot is a whole lot more.
Anne Laurie
There was a Reuters article — which I may not have included, because (still) too many links for FYWP — which quoted a range of $120-$170 per shot, so $155 sounds correct.
That’s why the Biden people didn’t want to drop the Emergency Authorization, and why Big Pharm (& their paid-for enablers) were so eager to do so: Once it was no longer an ’emergency’, the government had to pay whatever the companies could gouge.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@eclare:
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Mild for COVID I guess. We were both knocked on our asses for a couple days, but that happened with a couple of the vaccines too.
For me it feels like a chest cold. Biggest complaint is that it hurts like hell to cough because my throat is raw.
We had boosters scheduled for Monday but CVS cancelled because they didn’t have vaccine in stock.
eclare
@Anne Laurie:
Gotcha. Luckily my insurance, Cigna, covered it.
Nelle
We flew on Monday, first time since 2019. One flight, four masked (including the two of us). Next flight, six masks out of 143 passengers (full flight).
We managed to get new vax last Thursday. They ran out the day before but just when they were going to call to cancel us, a new batch showed up.
Yarrow
Thank you so much for these updates, AL. And thank you for continuing to do them. It must be a lot of work and they are so valuable.
Starfish
@eclare: I got my shot at a deeply understaffed Walgreens last Friday. My appointment was at 5:15 p.m., and I got my shot at 6:30. The person who was working the register was asking people to have their COVID id card or denying people the shot.
The tech who gave me the shot, who gave me my last two shots was on a ten-hour shift with no other techs, and she had been on a 12-hour shift alone the day before. If she was giving shots, she was not giving out prescriptions. So she was dealing with two lines (the shot line and the prescription line) getting longer and longer.
The CVS pharmacy workers in Kansas City are walking out over how understaffed their pharmacies are. CVS is forcing them to schedule the shots every 15 minutes even though they don’t have the staffing to do that and fill the prescriptions that they are way behind on.
lowtechcyclist
@Soprano2:
It depends on what the survey question is. (The article didn’t say what sort of mandate it was that respondents were being asked about.) Clicking through, one has to sign up with Rasmussen (it’s their poll) to see the details, and I’m not going to give my email address to that hack outfit.
AliceBlue
My husband and I are getting our shots tomorrow.
moonbat
Thanks, AL for these valuable blasts of information.
On that last comment in the original post, I think the nation is borderline PTSD and simply refuses to acknowledge it. We’ve lost like 1.5 million people at minimum and there has been this sort of willful amnesia on the part of the public. Folks just don’t want to reckon with that loss and would rather pretend that it’s time to “get back to normal.” As if pretending it’s all over means our losses weren’t so great. Looks like the antivaxxers are making bank on that willful blindness.
Got flu vaccine in one arm and Covid vaccine in the other last Thursday.
eclare
@Starfish:
Wow. I didn’t know that so many pharmacies are understaffed. Walgreens has appointments in fifteen minute intervals, but they also fit in people without appointments, like the person ahead of me in line last Thursday.
Yarrow
Thank you especially for the link and article about when to get your Covid vaccine if you’ve recently had Covid. I’ve been frustrated that I can’t good info on it. The CDC says you “may” wait to get it but I’m interested in how it works. This article is super helpful.
The picture showing where Covid is declining drives me batty. Covid is airborne. Every single year Covid increases in areas where people are indoors and decreases where people are outdoors and windows can be open. In the summer it’s hot in the south and people are inside in the air conditioning so Covid cases increase there. Cases are low or decrease further north where it’s more pleasant. Now it’s starting to cool down a bit in the south, so people are outside more, maybe have windows open. It’s cooler in the north (at least off and on) and people head indoors. It does this Every. Single. Year.
Our news media are either idiots or being told not to report that Covid is airborne. Indoor air quality could be the new frontier of health, just like clean water was. But we seem determined to ignore it. I don’t get understand why. Who’s behind people ignoring the indoor air quality issue? Health insurance companies? Builders? Governments?
lowtechcyclist
@Jeffg166:
I think there should be a mask mandate for workers in medical settings. One shouldn’t have to worry about whether your medical professional has picked up Covid from a patient and might be passing it on to you.
Other than that, I’m good with letting people do as they will. I’ll continue to mask up in stores and the like, and visit restaurants at off-peak hours.
Yarrow
@lowtechcyclist: I was in a doctor’s office yesterday. All the nurses and other medical assistants were not wearing masks. I wore a mask was the only person I saw wearing a mask until the doctor came into the exam room and was also wearing a mask. A quality N95 or maybe KN94 mask. I was pleased to see that.
Mel
@Scott: Walgreens where I’m at has “just a few” doses available, according to pharmacists at several different locations, and thus only a few appointments available per week, snapped up immediately.
Smaller pharmacy where I normally go has been desperately trying to get their supply, but has had little success getting any forward motion, and have no clear answers as to when their ordered shipment will arrive.
Thought of checking availability at my local CVS stores today, but hate to go in there as all three locations are super busy, nobody is masking, and there is no safe waiting spot for immunosuppressed people. Pharm tech told me on the phone a week or so ago that I’d “probably have to check in and then wait a while in the store, in view of the pharmacy, in order to be called for the shot” when they had someone freed up to give it.
That is what happened there when I got my second Covid vaccine, despite having scheduled a specific appointment time online. It was an unnerving wait for nearly 40 minutes past my appt. time, waiting in front of the pharmacy counter area while lots of visibly ill people went through the line picking up rxs and asking for Covid tests. Thank heavens for n95s and a face shield, but I don’t intend to go through that viral Russian Roulette again.
Local big chain grocery store has the vaccine, but instead of giving them at the pharmacy, where there is a semi-isolated waiting area for flu and other vaccines, they have been having the in-store Urgent Care Clinic do the Covid vaccines, which means signing in at the clinic, and waiting in a very small area with lots of unmasked, sick people who are there seeking medical treatment for respiratory infections, strep throat, pinkeye, etc. Long pre-vaccine wait sandwiched in elbow to elbow with actively infectious people, followed by a 15 minute post-vax wait in the same circumstances? No can do.
I’m checking today with some other small pharmacies about an hour’s drive away, and keep jumping on the Walgreens site in the hopes that they have more doses arrive and thus some more appts opening up.
Definitely a bumpy and slowrollout, at least in my neck of the woods, as compared to the past.
glc
Good insurance cheat sheet. I’m wondering if we shouldn’t have a covid info link up for the duration, whatever that is. Some point in the first decade we’ll probably settle down to some routine. (I originally thought 3 years would do it, so maybe I’m an incurable optimist).
Also for the home test program, and such things.
Unfortunately, this is all still very useful.
Mel
@Starfish: This is exactly what I’m seeing, as well.
Matt McIrvin
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: When I got COVID in January, the only obvious difference from a typical bad cold was about 1 day of intense throat irritation, more what I would expect from strep throat than a cold.
lowtechcyclist
@Starfish:
Good for them! Glad they’re telling CVS to stick their impossible demands where the sun don’t shine.
They should hold out for higher wages while they’re at it. Not like it’ll be easy for CVS to call in scabs if it’s hard to find staff in the first place.
Mel
@eclare: She was disgustingly incompetent when it came to creating and overseeing communications with the public and with staff, and on top of that, her Freudian slip about it being “good” that most of the Covid deaths were (supposedly) only the disabled, ill, and elderly (ya know, all of us no longer useful, completely disposable people) and her ridiculous non-pology and refusal to change her policy stance afterwards still strikes me as something that should have been cause for her immediate replacement. So many highly qualified candidates were available to fill the position, and yet she lingered like a stubborn carbuncle after so many bad judgment calls, serious communications errors, and outright unprofessional behavior.
So, yeah- not a fan.
YY_Sima Qian
After 3 & half years away, my elderly parents finally made it back to China. W/in a week of arrival, they promptly tested positive. Fortunately, both have pretty mild cases, & have now tested negative on RAT. I recommended that they get another shot before leaving the US, since their last shots were last Nov. & most people don’t bother to mask any more in China. However, their doctor said that, since they have had 5 shots each, there should be more than enough antibodies & cell memory, & another shot would have minimal benefit. I am befuddled by the advise.
Anyway, these are their 1st infections, as far as they know. I must concede the irony at multiple levels. My parent both left China in late Jan./early Feb. 2020, as the pandemic was just spreading across the country. Dad was on the 1st US evac flight out of Wuhan. They then had to ride out repeated massive waves in the US throughout 2020/21, by self-isolating as much as possible, while we in China had largely returned to normal. In 2022, they faced full reopening in the US, where the vulnerable were largely left to fend for themselves, while we in China had faced significantly greater disruptions, as the NPI measures came under increasing strain in face of the evolving virus. They managed to evade the virus for 3+ years (as far as they know), in a country w/ some of the worst infection & excess death rates, but get infected upon arriving in the former land of the “Dynamic Zero COVID”.
Hurray for Pfizer/BioNTech & Moderna vaccines, though!
My in-laws had their 2nd infection back in May, my wife in June, after all of us had been infected for the 1st time in Dec. I see people on Chinese social media claiming 3rd infection inside of 9 months. My daughter & I have managed to avoid 2nd infections, we will be looking to get a booster soon, w/ winter coming.
China CDC still publishes weekly data dumps for recorded infections, hospitalizations & deaths. They are only good for reading trends, if that. However, none of the subsequent waves in China so far have stressed the healthcare systems or strained funeral homes. Despite the extremely busy summer domestic travel causing another wave, when we visited hospitals in the last couple of weeks there were idle ambulances parked near the ER. During the Dec. – Jan. exit tsunami the blaring ambulances would be back up down the street trying to get to the ER.
Randal Sexton
On Monday I just got the latest vax booster. Its kicking my ass — Intermittent high fever and super tired, bad sleep – so if you are sensitive to these things book in some down time.
evodevo
@Yarrow: I was at the eye doctors yesterday, and the staff who interacted directly with me were wearing masks…office cubicle staff not so much. At least the pros recognize the rate is going up in KY…
glc
@Randal Sexton: More than usual, in other words? I seem to be seeing a lot of that reaction lately, but given the usual range of responses, it’s hard to tell whether this is any different from past experience.
Regardless, my appointment is for both shots, and we’ll see. To date, the 2nd Shingrix was the one that got my attention. Though I’ve certainly noticed some of the others. I’m elderly, which tends to damp down the response, but they usually boost the dose to compensate. This time though, the way the vaccine is presented at sign-up, it looks like we all get the same formulation, beyond some very low age.
Bill Arnold
@Matt McIrvin:
Likewise. In the high holy days services (Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur), Reform, so hard-leans Democrat, I was the only person with an N95 or equivalent. A few greeters had masks, and a few others had masks (maybe one KN-95). Same for shopping; maybe 2 out of 100 wearing masks, mostly lesser non-N95 (or equivalent) masks.
This in an area where at least 1 in 50 people are SARS-CoV-2 infected at the moment, and anecdotal experience is consistent with this. (Wastewater analysis for the town is showing activity since the beginning of September, trending up.)
Mel
@Randal Sexton: Thank you for the heads-up.
Mel
@Bill Arnold: I had surgery a couple of weeks ago, and only one of the check-in and support staff, and none of the pre-surgical care nurses were masked.
The anesthesiologist was masked even in the pre-surgical area, as was the surgeon and the resident, but nobody else was except one tech, who was doing the useless chin-diaper method.
These are people who watched patients and coworkers dying and suffering during the first waves, and know darn well what Covid and Long Covid can do in terms of long- term damage, as well.
You’d think that even if they don’t give a damn what happens to patients, they’d at least be selfish enough to mask to protect themselves since infection and hospitalization rates are rising notably here.
Kayla Rudbek
I had my COVID vaccine and flu shot on Monday evening and I am starting to feel better today. Walgreens allowed me to schedule those plus my second shingles vaccine but they would only give me two shots when I showed up.
NorthLeft
From Ontario, Canada. My wife and I are back to wearing masks without exception in indoor public spaces. We had been slacking off, even went to an MLS match in Toronto a few weeks ago and rode a crowded GO train without masks. We felt a little safer in the stadium as we had the highest seats in the house, with a nice pleasant breeze.
The new vaccine should be coming out in a week or two. That will be our sixth vax. Camping all of next week in Algonquin PP so very low chance of infection.
Hoping for the best with Thanksgiving coming up next weekend.
Scott
Just got my flu and COVID shots. Small line of folks getting their shots. Some getting shingles and RSV also. One interesting fact talking to people in line. The specific Walgreens we were at had an appointment system but were also giving shots to walk-ins so some folks with late afternoon appointments were told that they ran out of vaccines. Why they didn’t reserve or set aside the amount of appointments is a mystery.
cckids
@Randal Sexton: Same for my spouse – he got both the Covid and the flu shots, and is out for the count. Fever, severe chills and body aches. He had a severe pre-vax case of covid – Jan-Feb 2021, and says that this is just as bad.
VFX Lurker
My co-worker recently caught COVID from his kid, who probably had picked it up at grade school. They had not yet had a chance to get the updated vaccine.
I got an updated Moderna vaccine at CVS on Sept 16th, but I continue to wear a KF94 at the office.
Barney
So the answer to “if you just got over COVID do you still need an updated shot?” turns out to be not “yes”, as Delthia Ricks’ tweet said, but “not for another 3 months”. Her tweets are normally more accurate. I know people shouldn’t just trust tweets or headlines, but inevitably, some people just read those. And she’s normally trustworthy.
Philbert
I had an appt at Walkgreens reserved for a Covid shot but there were out. sigh. There were two people in the phramacy, and one for the rest of the whole huge store.
I did get the RSV shot and it kicked my ass. I get flu shots most years and only one was tough. You never know. I’m leaving a few free days after any vax after this. Note I am on Old.
ColoradoGuy
My wife and I got Covid at the end of June, fortunately we both got Paxlovid hours after testing positive, and thanks to Paxlovid, were all better in 36 hours. Mostly just a very sore throat and some fever. No loss of smell or other lingering symptoms.
I blame the Denver and Seattle airports … I should have masked up in the very crowded and busy concourses, and before the airplane turned on the A/C. That was the obvious major exposure.
Hmm … with Covid at the end of June, it sounds like we should delay a month, maybe. The soonest appointments available at Kaiser Colorado are late October. Haven’t tried Walgreens or King Soopers yet.
AJ of the Mustard Search and Rescue Team
@Yarrow:
I think you are 100% right and I just wish we could get our news coverage and policy actions in line with this reality!
AJ of the Mustard Search and Rescue Team
AL ty for all the time and effort to assemble and post these for us, very much appreciated.
RaflW
Today CVS cancelled my Moderna appt 22 hours before I was due to be dosed. Scramble to find a new provider, and a suburban HyVee grocery pharmacy can get me a shot tomorrow. Phew.
Ksmiami
@Randal Sexton: nausea, exhaustion, aches- the Moderna booster is rough
RevRick
A month ago, I caught a head cold and thought I had suppressed it with Cold-Eze, but after a few days started a hacking cough, which I kept in check with cough drops. But then Monday I had a severe fit and felt some twinges in my left leg. I ignored it, but when I went to the bathroom and tried to get up, I felt pain so excruciating I struggled to stand and soon ended up on the floor and then being taken to the ER. I was given a muscle relaxant and steroid patch, but in the wee hours of Wednesday I had another attack of sciatica that immobilized me. The EMTs got me downstairs and I was able to get to my appointment at the spine center.
In the course of the examination, the doctor casually mentioned how they’ve seen a significant increase in cases of arthritis to the spine post-COVID, and flareups can be triggered by other viruses. And I went “Huh! I had a mild case with symptoms around my torso.”
I gotta get out of this place
@Raven: My CVS ran out of the new shots within a week. Was told they didn’t know when they’d get another shipment. I had to cancel my appointment.
Argiope
@Randal Sexton: anything lasting longer than 48 hours may be COVID, not the vaccine. When community sodas is high, some unlucky folks are going to pick up a case en route to the vaccine. I’m a vaccinator and we told everyone to test if their “reaction” lasted longer than about a day and a half.