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Monday Night Open Thread

by John Cole|  January 22, 20249:20 pm| 119 Comments

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I don’t have much to talk about tonight since I am trying to not think about politics. Joe Biden is going to be the Democratic nominee, Trump is going to be the Republican nominee and the only thing in question about that is whether he will be in a jail cell or not.

It rained here- hard enough that you could hear the rain, I have no idea if this is normal or this is because I dragged it with me off them thar hills. If the latter is the case you can better believe I will capitalize on that newfound ability. I will indeed.

Any movie or tv selections? I will cut the first person who says Midsommar or that other one.

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  1. 1.

    Steve in the ATL

    January 22, 2024 at 9:23 pm

    Condor

  2. 2.

    Suzanne

    January 22, 2024 at 9:24 pm

    It is normal. And then, soon, it will go a long time without raining. And when it returns, it will be with haboobs and flash flooding. There’s no gentle, refreshing rainfalls. It’s Wrath of FSM or SUN!

  3. 3.

    BretH

    January 22, 2024 at 9:26 pm

    Had an earnest conversation with my 19yr old daughter today. Her initial position was that she couldn’t vote for Biden because of his support of Israel. I believe I helped her understand that she can be firmly opposed to that but that unless the players change a vote for anyone else but Biden is a vote for Trump. It was instructive for me to better understand what the younger ones are most concerned with. We agreed we are looking forward to the next election when we may have a young progressive able to effectively run.

  4. 4.

    kindness

    January 22, 2024 at 9:29 pm

    My friends in Phoenix say they get seasonal monsoon rains there.  Never been so I can’t say.

  5. 5.

    dmsilev

    January 22, 2024 at 9:33 pm

    Joe Biden is going to be the Democratic nominee

    Dean Philips and Marianne Williamson both read this and shed a single tear each.

  6. 6.

    Jackie

    January 22, 2024 at 9:33 pm

    @kindness: I believe they do – which can disrupt Spring Training. ⚾️

  7. 7.

    laura

    January 22, 2024 at 9:33 pm

    Astrid and Ricchiardi on PBS passport and everything except That Darn Cat on Criterion. But mostly Astrid.

  8. 8.

    Suzanne

    January 22, 2024 at 9:35 pm

    @kindness: Monsoon is in the late summer, and it is big rainstorms (like flash flooding and trees breaking) and dust storms. There are also winter rains that, every few years, are actually hail or graupel. Then there’s long periods of dryness in between.

  9. 9.

    RepubAnon

    January 22, 2024 at 9:35 pm

    I’d suggest THEM!  A giant mutant ant movie is always appropriate.

  10. 10.

    SmallAxe

    January 22, 2024 at 9:37 pm

    Welcome to AZ and yes enjoy the rain and cool weather while we can we get limited days of it.

    for a tv show I can’t recommend Mr InBetween enough. It’s like an Australian breaking bad centered around a hitman/fixer like Dexter in terms of bad guys and has a daughter he’s raising. Sooooo good

  11. 11.

    dexwood

    January 22, 2024 at 9:38 pm

    @RepubAnon: Shot in New Mexico, I think.

    @Jackie: Mid to late summer. No effect on Spring Training.

  12. 12.

    Alison Rose

    January 22, 2024 at 9:42 pm

    @BretH:

    We agreed we are looking forward to the next election when we may have a young progressive able to effectively run.

    Like who? And what would their plan be to win swing states?

    Also, US policy toward Israel is not wholly decided by the president, nor could any president just unilaterally decide to do a 180 on it because some — I’m sorry — ignorant teenagers want it that way. I’m glad you were able to talk some sense into her, and I hope it included asking her why she thinks tens of millions of people in this country — POC, queer people, trans people, Muslims, Jews, disabled people, women, etc — should suffer in service of her single-issue focus that she probably only adopted recently.

  13. 13.

    Xavier

    January 22, 2024 at 9:45 pm

    @dmsilev: When Newsom debated DeSantis on Hannity, he told DeSantis “We have one thing in common: neither of us is going to be the nominee.”

  14. 14.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    January 22, 2024 at 9:47 pm

    @laura: Let me give another vote for Astrid. I came in to recommend that. We just watched the pilot on Amazon Prime. It’s in French with English subtitles.

  15. 15.

    Ms. D. Ranged in AZ

    January 22, 2024 at 9:48 pm

    @kindness:  Monsoon rains are supposed to come at the end of July here in AZ.  They’ve been anemic at best for the last few years.  The rain we are experiencing now is our “winter” weather and typically tapers off before January is over.  It has also been pathetic in recent years.  So, as amused as I am about John being able to conjure rain (via bizarre naked mopping rituals), it isn’t true.

  16. 16.

    Leto

    January 22, 2024 at 9:50 pm

    Blue Eyes Samurai on Netflix. The story is excellent, animation beautiful, and season 2 is already in the works.

  17. 17.

    Jay

    January 22, 2024 at 9:51 pm

    @kindness:

    sometimes. Our friends in Phoenix, when we went to visit in November, 2023, noted that they had not had a monsoon in 2 years, which was why many of the Suguaro cactus were dying.

  18. 18.

    Regnad Kcin

    January 22, 2024 at 9:52 pm

    Boy Swallows Universe — gritty Aussie series outta Brisbane. You can feel the heartbreak coming.

  19. 19.

    brendancalling

    January 22, 2024 at 9:56 pm

    I’m watching “The Sting” on Netflix. I’ve never seen it before, it’s a lot of fun.
    This weekend I watched “Murder on the Orient Express,” with Albert Finney, Lauren Bacall, Ingrid Bergman, and a while bunch of others. I have no idea if this was meant to be as campy as it is, but I laughed the whole way through.

  20. 20.

    Scuffletuffle

    January 22, 2024 at 9:59 pm

    Payback on Britbox.

  21. 21.

    TaMara

    January 22, 2024 at 10:00 pm

    I like the latest season of Fargo, always Dark Winds, off the top of my head

    Old shows: Instinct just for Alan Cummings, and I just rewatched Wil Trent to prep for the new season.

    Nothing is sparking for me on streaming, though I’m about to try the Jodi Foster season of True Detectiv

    Oh, and I almost forgot, I’m liking Monsieur Spade. The French setting and Clive Owens are the draws.

    Also, RIP Norman Jewison.  :-(

  22. 22.

    rekoob

    January 22, 2024 at 10:00 pm

    Boosting again my recommendation of For All Mankind on Apple TV+, as well as two stalwarts of the PBS Passport world — Call the Midwife and All Creatures Great and Small. I’m a big fan of The Criterion Channel, since it offers plenty of rabbit holes to explore.

  23. 23.

    Soderbee

    January 22, 2024 at 10:00 pm

    Currently watching The Killing. It is based in Seattle but offered by Acorn.?! Really great although it does go down a lot of rabbit holes adding to the length.

    And, talk about rain….

  24. 24.

    Princess

    January 22, 2024 at 10:01 pm

    I see Trump is on Fox challenging Haley to competing dementia tests. Gotta say, I would pay to watch that live.

  25. 25.

    CaseyL

    January 22, 2024 at 10:02 pm

    @BretH:
    I am a bit astonished at how quickly and passionately young people have adopted the Palestinians as the Oppressed People flavor of the season.  It must be because Israel is a US ally, and therefore the pro-Palestinan groups figure we have more leverage than we do, for example, against Russia in its ongoing obliteration of Ukraine. Or China, in its obliteration of the Uyghurs.  No leverage there, so no point advocating for Ukrainians or Uyghurs.  I guess.
    I also wonder why young people – the ones most vulnerable to the revocation of minority rights, women’s rights, and environmental protection under the GOP – don’t seem to care as much about those, to the point where they’re willing to facilitate the election of Trump and people like Trump.
    I honestly don’t get it.​

  26. 26.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    January 22, 2024 at 10:02 pm

    BEEF on Netflix.  That is an entertaining journey of madness.

  27. 27.

    M31

    January 22, 2024 at 10:03 pm

    @RepubAnon: ​
     
    THEM!

    lol a classic of Saturday afternoon TV of my childhood

    I remember one line from it “SOMEONE broke into a warehouse and stole 30,000 lbs of sugar! WHO COULD IT BE?????”

  28. 28.

    Geoduck

    January 22, 2024 at 10:04 pm

    “That Other One.”

  29. 29.

    TaMara

    January 22, 2024 at 10:05 pm

    @BretH: This is excellent…talking about it, looking to the future and making sure she understands for that future to take hold, we have to keep our democracy.  Keeping apathy at bay.

    May she be so inspired that someday she runs herself.

  30. 30.

    Jay

    January 22, 2024 at 10:12 pm

    @CaseyL:  it’s performative social media on both the horseshoe Left and the Nazi’s. So a couple of percent of “yutes”, and the badly damaged ones.

    We had an arrest here. Guy attacked pro-Palestinian protestors,

    also attacked Jewish congregants at their Synagogue,

    previous arrests include attacking Drag Queens,

    74 Nazi tattoo’s on his body.

  31. 31.

    Urza

    January 22, 2024 at 10:12 pm

    @Princess: Put a dent in the national debt off that on pay per view.

  32. 32.

    Jay

    January 22, 2024 at 10:13 pm

    @M31:

    Willie Wonka?

  33. 33.

    Urza

    January 22, 2024 at 10:15 pm

    If you want to revert to childhood, there’s a new season of He-Man about to drop on Netflix.  Last one was well written for adults.

  34. 34.

    Layer8Problem

    January 22, 2024 at 10:16 pm

    @TaMara:  Monsieur Spade‘s got a good first episode, once I accepted how he got there in the first place.  And we just finished the second episode of True Detective.  Creepy, and I’m wondering if it’s gonna crush my hopes in the remaining episodes.  And I’m gobsmacked that they filmed Alaska in Iceland.

  35. 35.

    Jackie

    January 22, 2024 at 10:17 pm

    @Jay: Hope he’s not given bail!

    How many MAGA tats? As Nazi tats and MAGA tats seem to be like bread and butter.

  36. 36.

    Suzanne

    January 22, 2024 at 10:17 pm

    @CaseyL: Young people today have likely witnessed a lot of Islamophobia and that makes them sympathetic. Also, we give a shit-ton of aid to Israel, and that means we are literally invested in the conflict. Which is not to say that we can’t care about more than one marginalized people at a time.

  37. 37.

    cope

    January 22, 2024 at 10:18 pm

    Funny Woman on PBS is interesting.

  38. 38.

    Steeplejack

    January 22, 2024 at 10:18 pm

    @Cole:

    Any movie or tv selections?

    Golly, maybe you should take a look at “Medium Cool” from last night. Regular feature on an almost top 10,000 blog.

  39. 39.

    piratedan

    January 22, 2024 at 10:18 pm

    @CaseyL: I believe that its a well cultivated plan on social media from the people who have the money.  When I review the targeted work that was done on behalf of Trump in 2016, this pro-palestinian movement seems very similar.

    It helps that the way that the Israeli government is behaving reinforces this, yet the public outcry in Israel itself is very real and we hear next to nothing about it… There also seems to be a deliberate memory holing of what Hamas launched and their position as the de facto Government of Gaza….

    While the Biden Administration is doing their best to mitigate what is going on, Netanyahu has little interest in being moderated nor are there many actors attempting to rein in Hamas to the table.  Could look at who benefits and the usual suspects are Russia and the Saudis.  So many of our youth have little understanding that while the US could cut off funding for military material, as soon as they do so where does Israel go?  Few of them have any understanding of how we got here and for them, the events of the 67 war, the 73 war and the Munich Olympics are as far in their rearview mirrors as WWII was for us.

    I agree with the younguns that our relationship with Israel has to change, but until the people of Israel kick Bibi out (and they ARE trying), that change will be blocked by Netanyahu’s own self interest (and those of his allies).

  40. 40.

    M31

    January 22, 2024 at 10:22 pm

    @Jay: yup, the cops start profiling Oompa Loompas and meanwhile the 30-foot long mutant ants are getting off scot free

  41. 41.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 22, 2024 at 10:23 pm

    @CaseyL: The kindest thing I can say about these people (and I got into a little argument over at LG&M about this with someone just today) is that they’re in the same place as the “Hillary the neoliberal sellout” shitheads from 2016.

    They’re assuming that Biden will win, so they can free-ride and focus on whatever issue exercises them the most.  B/c if they *actually* thought that their refraining from voting for Biden would install TFG, they’d fucking vote for Biden.

    They’re moral midgets, unable to use moral reasoning to figure out how to act in the real world.

  42. 42.

    Steeplejack

    January 22, 2024 at 10:28 pm

    @kindness:

    My brother says they’re getting some heavy rain in Las Vegas, NV, now, too. I seem to remember the brief monsoon season occurring a little later, but I’m no expert.

  43. 43.

    Jay

    January 22, 2024 at 10:29 pm

    @M31:

    Well the Facial Recognition AI software has some built in bias, so the security vids arn’t that useful.

  44. 44.

    jimmiraybob

    January 22, 2024 at 10:29 pm

    @TaMara: “I like the latest season of Fargo,…”

    Yikes!  And I mean that in a good way.

    I never saw a previous season but stumbled onto season 5 and it was a hoot.  Home town boy Jon Hamm playing a deranged Bible-thumping constitutional sheriff, raving misogynist and mad militia leader was something to behold (a real change up from his role in Good Omens where he plays the angel Gabriel).

    Recommended.

  45. 45.

    japa21

    January 22, 2024 at 10:32 pm

    Mrs Japa and I just recently started watching series on the streaming networks and, on advice of good friends watched Three Pines on Prime. It was only one season and wasn’t picked up for a second, which pissed me off, specially with the way season 1 ended. Anyway, recommend watching two episodes at a time. A major social message involved, along with good, old fashioned, crime solving.

  46. 46.

    Devore

    January 22, 2024 at 10:33 pm

    Godzilla minus zero.   Still playing in the local theaters.   Memorable

     

    Season 1 of True detective on hbo

    The Center Seat: 55 Years of Star Trek.   must see if you’re a fan

  47. 47.

    Another Scott

    January 22, 2024 at 10:34 pm

    I didn’t watch the California senate debate that just (?) ended, but glanced at some of the Wonkette comments. Did anyone here see it and have any thoughts about it?

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  48. 48.

    zhena gogolia

    January 22, 2024 at 10:34 pm

    @Alison Rose: Haha, you and I think alike.

  49. 49.

    zhena gogolia

    January 22, 2024 at 10:35 pm

    @TaMara: How about Mary Weiss of the Shangri-Las?

  50. 50.

    AJ of the Mustard Search and Rescue Team

    January 22, 2024 at 10:36 pm

    This Way Up on Hulu. Check out the trailer and lmk what you think if you watch it.

  51. 51.

    NotMax

    January 22, 2024 at 10:38 pm

    Mentioned many times previously, still worthwhile.

    Patriot – 2 seasons (Prime)
    Wild Boys – Aussie single season series (Freevee)
    Murdoch Mysteries – more than a dozen seasons (Freevee, Hulu)

  52. 52.

    Layer8Problem

    January 22, 2024 at 10:39 pm

    @Steeplejack:  Damn, completely missed Medium Cool last night.  I just read it all through and NutmegAgain breaks my heart at the end saying Babylon Berlin‘s fourth season’s not getting shown on Netflix, to whom I say “F–k you, you rapacious mismanaging losers.”

  53. 53.

    NotMax

    January 22, 2024 at 10:41 pm

    @jimmiraybob

    The season with Jean Smart was incredible.

  54. 54.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    January 22, 2024 at 10:48 pm

    “hard enough that you could hear the rain”

    I live on the south Oregon coast, I hear the rain when it rains because it almost always comes down heavy enough to make noise, especially on leaves. In fact I can hear it right now with the sound of the angry ocean in the background.

    We’re averaging just over an inch a day and at 22.94 inches for the year.

  55. 55.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 22, 2024 at 10:49 pm

    @NotMax:

    Murdoch Mysteries – more than a dozen seasons (Freevee, Hulu)

    Looked that one up, and it sounds pretty cool how the central character is able to solve crimes by improvising modern police techniques using what he has available to him at the turn of the 20th century

  56. 56.

    frosty

    January 22, 2024 at 10:53 pm

    @zhena gogolia: ​ I know! RIP Mary Weiss. I’ve had Train From Kansas City as an earworm all day. In rotation with Give Him A Great Big Kiss. My all-time favorite Girl Group.

    The Guardian had a good writeup: Mary Weiss brought streetwise realism to the Shangri-Las – and let 60s girl groups flirt with danger

  57. 57.

    Anyway

    January 22, 2024 at 10:53 pm

    @Soderbee:

    Currently watching The Killing. It is based in Seattle but offered by Acorn.?! Really great although it does go down a lot of rabbit holes adding to the length.

    Aaaaargh!!! I’m having PTSD flashbacks —  was throwing things at my teevee by the end of that series.

  58. 58.

    satby

    January 22, 2024 at 10:57 pm

    I’ve been telling people about Astrid since season 1. Very good, non-sterotyped approach to an autistic character, and the character development is supported by lots of subtle and often poignant moments. The meetings of her social skills group for fellow autistics is often funny in how it shows their puzzlement at what makes “normies” tick. Highly recommended.

    I normally only watch an hour or two of anything, but I’m probably going to start watching The Bear next. Gets rave reviews, and set in my hometown, what’s not to like.

  59. 59.

    EmanG

    January 22, 2024 at 10:58 pm

    If you have the Peacock there’s an oddly wonderful series called Mrs. Davis.

  60. 60.

    Jackie

    January 22, 2024 at 10:58 pm

    @Steeplejack: Climate change… established weather patterns aren’t the norm any longer.

  61. 61.

    Kelly

    January 22, 2024 at 11:06 pm

    @Suzanne: There’s no gentle, refreshing rainfalls. It’s Wrath of FSM or SUN!

    2001 I rowed Grand Canyon. Last week of  June several massive gully washer thunderstorms. Wind you kinda had to lean into. Finished the trip the first week of July, clear blue sky, 120 degree afternoon temps on the beaches. Fortunately there’s plenty of cold water in the Colorado.

  62. 62.

    Hungry Joe

    January 22, 2024 at 11:08 pm

    “Slow Horses.” So-o-o-o good. Amazing mix of tension + humor. And one of the best theme songs (written for the show, and performed by, Mick Jagger) EVER.

  63. 63.

    Matt McIrvin

    January 22, 2024 at 11:09 pm

    Movie: Godzilla Minus One. Right now, it’s only playing in a couple of theaters here.

    But… the director also made a black-and-white cut called Godzilla Minus One Minus Color that is going to get a (probably relatively limited) US release starting next weekend. He apparently put a lot of care into the B/W version, says that in some ways it’s the scariest version of the movie.

    Since Minus One is a period piece that in many ways evokes the spirit of the somber 1954 original, black and white might be the most appropriate way to see it (though it’s a more hopeful movie, ultimately, than Ishiro Honda’s original was).

    Regardless, it’s not just a good monster movie but a great movie. Often, with Godzilla films you just want to get past the human-characters plot bits to watch the monster stomp the city. With this one, that doesn’t happen–you care for these people, you really don’t want them to get hurt and as a result, the monster is as terrifying as it’s ever been. As in the original, Godzilla is more a destroying force of vengeful nature than the quasi-superhero he became as the series went on.

    The US “Monsterverse” movies seem to be going that other route, evoking more the spirit of the kid-friendly monster smackdowns with crazy science-fiction plots of the late 1960s. It’s unusual that we’ve got two Godzillas running concurrently now, but I guess it lets you take your pick.

  64. 64.

    Nelle

    January 22, 2024 at 11:14 pm

    @laura: i too thank the person who recommended Astrid.

  65. 65.

    Nelle

    January 22, 2024 at 11:20 pm

    @japa21: The books, by Louise Penny, are wonderful.  A realistic appraisal of tge good in humans and the absolute evil corruption of some.  And there is a community of people.  I like when there is a community tgat knows each other’s frailties and strengths.

  66. 66.

    ColoradoGuy

    January 22, 2024 at 11:23 pm

    @BretH: Returning to the conversation with Bret’s 19-year-old, they have no memory of the Bad Old Days … when gay men were arrested, had their arrest photographs printed in the newspaper, careers destroyed, and even forcible electroshock. Or women not able to open their own bank account. Or Black people chased out of the South, burned out of their homes, or left-friendly political figures coldly assassinated … not once, not twice, but THREE times in the space of a few years. Things can get real pretty damn fast.

  67. 67.

    jimmiraybob

    January 22, 2024 at 11:24 pm

    @NotMax: “The [Fargo] season with Jean Smart was incredible.”

    Looks like I’m going to have to backtrack.  Thanks for the heads up.

  68. 68.

    Matt McIrvin

    January 22, 2024 at 11:28 pm

    @Chetan Murthy: They argue that we’re the morally obtuse ones, for pressuring them to vote for Biden instead of pressuring Biden to change his policies so that they can vote for him.

    I mean, I do see their point–if you won’t threaten to withhold your vote, what leverage do you have over policy? Biden has no incentive to change his ways unless there’s a real risk. Using Donald Trump as a sort of bomb that threatens to blow up the United States unless their demands are met is a crude tactic, but maybe it’s the only one they have.

    The only problem is, I suspect that if Biden adopted the policy they prefer (basically, cutting off support for Israel until they completely change their policy toward the Palestinians, which will probably never happen), he’d probably lose more votes from our coalition than he gains. I find that situation deplorable, but I think it’s true. I also think there’s a big enough generational split here that many progressives can’t even see that that might be the case. Or they don’t care.

  69. 69.

    Redshift

    January 22, 2024 at 11:31 pm

    I have a ticket for the rally tomorrow with Uncle Joe and Kamala, and I’m trying to decide whether to go. The location was kept under wraps, so I just found out this evening that it’s in frickin Manassas, and there’s limited parking so ride sharing is encouraged. Which would have been really useful to know more than 18 hours in advance. (Whine, whine.)

  70. 70.

    TheOtherHank

    January 22, 2024 at 11:33 pm

    I’ve watched the first two episodes of Poker Face with Natasha Lyonne. I like it a lot. It’s a few years old now, but her other show Russian Doll is also good

  71. 71.

    prostratedragon

    January 22, 2024 at 11:35 pm

    Have enjoyed Murdoch Mysteries and Dark Wnds, which reminds me to check whether ep2.1 has been posted yet; the rest of season 2 is up. New season of Shetland is out. No Perez, but pretty good.

    Norman Jewison — so many fine movies. Didn’t know he was still living, but apparently retired 20 years ago. R.I.P.

  72. 72.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 22, 2024 at 11:37 pm

    @Matt McIrvin:

    They argue that we’re the morally obtuse ones

    Yeah, no.  What they are, is weak thinkers, using emotion instead of logic.  If lots of people did as they suggest, then when Biden inevitably refuses to cut Israel off (b/c there are a ton of Dems and independents who would find that unacceptable[1]), Biden would lose the election (e.g. if all Arab-Americans in Michigan  decided to boycott b/c of I/P) and boy howdy, TFG would go to town on Palestine, and on all Muslims everywhere, including Muslim-Americans.

    What these smooth-brained idiots are banking on, is that *Biden will win*.  And so, it’s perfectly acceptable to twist Biden’s arm: he’s gonna win anyway, amirite?  amrite!?!?!1?

    Only, we’ve seen this damn movie before, in 2016.

    [1] just as you write in your last para.  Just so.

    They’re no different from the House Freedom Caucus: Massie and Roy and the other chucklefucks know that their preferred policies are unacceptable to most of the country, and even to much of the House G(r)OP caucus.  So what do they do?  They hold the G(r)OP Caucus hostage, hold the country hostage (by refusing to pass a budget, via the Hastert Rule) and demand that their particular policies be enacted.  They’re willing to hold the entire country hostage, b/c they know (or at least believe) that the other side (the Dems) will cave.  They’re *counting* on the other side caving, and they’re counting on their hostage-taking not resulting in the G(r)OP losing control of the House.

    In just the same manner, these children are counting on Biden caving, and on him still winning.

  73. 73.

    dmsilev

    January 22, 2024 at 11:39 pm

    @Hungry Joe: Oh, yes. Gary Oldman in particular is amazing.

  74. 74.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 22, 2024 at 11:39 pm

    @Matt McIrvin:

    I mean, I do see their point–if you won’t threaten to withhold your vote, what leverage do you have over policy? Biden has no incentive to change his ways unless there’s a real risk.

    The way you get your way in a democracy, in a democratically-run party caucus, is to elect representatives who support your positions, and get them to take over (or gain power in) the caucus, and help your party gain power, period.  That’s how it works.  But they know that not enough of the country actually agrees with them: that’s why they have to hold the country hostage for their issues.

  75. 75.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 22, 2024 at 11:41 pm

    @prostratedragon:

    Norman Jewison — so many fine movies. Didn’t know he was still living, but apparently retired 20 years ago. R.I.P.

    He was pretty heavy hitter, just looking at his Wiki page. I didn’t know he directed …And Justice For All and In the Heat of the Night

  76. 76.

    Matt McIrvin

    January 22, 2024 at 11:43 pm

    @Chetan Murthy:

    In just the same manner, these children are counting on Biden caving, and on him still winning.

    From talking to them, I get a different sense: they’re generally certain that he’s going to lose, regardless, and they want that disaster to be Democrats’ fault for not listening to them. They’re preparing to say “I told you so” when the catastrophe comes.

  77. 77.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    January 22, 2024 at 11:44 pm

    “Son of a Critch” on CW app

  78. 78.

    Seanly

    January 22, 2024 at 11:45 pm

    I am watching Stargate SG-1 from the beginning as there’s very little on TV. Available on Prime Video.

  79. 79.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 22, 2024 at 11:50 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: Wow, just … wow.  That’s even worse than I imagined.  If Biden loses, these children have no idea what awaits them.  Esp. for women.  And minorities.  For Muslim-Americans.  My flabber is gasted.

  80. 80.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 22, 2024 at 11:51 pm

    @Matt McIrvin:

    From talking to them, I get a different sense: they’re generally certain that he’s going to lose, regardless

    I have no idea why they’re so certain. Do you think they buy into media narratives about Biden and the Dems? The media has been predicting doom for Biden and the Dems but recent elections have contradicted that

    and they want that disaster to be Democrats’ fault for not listening to them. They’re preparing to say “I told you so” when the catastrophe comes.

    Too bad for them nobody else will see it that way. I couldn’t imagine being so nihilistic, cynical, and bitter

  81. 81.

    TeezySkeezy

    January 22, 2024 at 11:56 pm

    Give the *other* other one a try.

  82. 82.

    wjca

    January 22, 2024 at 11:57 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka

    Looked that one [Murdoch Mysteries] up, and it sounds pretty cool how the central character is able to solve crimes by improvising modern police techniques using what he has available to him at the turn of the 20th century

    It really is.  And I confess I was quite taken watching the hero detective heading to a murder scene . . . on his bicycle.

    EDT for clarity

  83. 83.

    Betty Cracker

    January 22, 2024 at 11:59 pm

    @EmanG: Mrs. Davis was so funny and weird!

  84. 84.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 23, 2024 at 12:00 am

    @Matt McIrvin: My god, I just realized: they’re *nihilists*!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNChSF5nqJs

    ETA: Goku got there first!

  85. 85.

    Yarrow

    January 23, 2024 at 12:01 am

    Any movie or tv selections?

    Well, because I have had a bad day and am exhausted and was too lazy to look for something to watch on TV, I ended up watching what was on the TV when I turned it on. That was The Traitors, which is apparently a Peacock show but the first episode aired on NBC.

    It’s a reality show. I’m not interested in the reality show part, but Alan Cumming is hosting it and he’s a complete joy to watch. He’s having the time of his life, wearing flamboyant tartan clothing and chewing the scenery, as he melodramatically tells the contestants the next twist or turn. The whole thing takes place in and around a castle in the Scottish highlands, so it’s stunning to look at. But Alan Cumming is the real treat.

  86. 86.

    Yutsano

    January 23, 2024 at 12:05 am

    *sigh*

    This is one helluva way to run a democracy. Yet I am absolutely behind Joe and Kamala. I don’t give two shits about his age. I just know Dolt45 isn’t going to appoint a disinterested idiot like Mnuchin to Treasury if he gets in. I don’t know who it will be, but they will be far more insidious.

  87. 87.

    dlwchico

    January 23, 2024 at 12:06 am

    @Hungry Joe: Came here to also recommend Slow Horses.   It’s a lot of fun.

    Also season 5 of Fargo.

  88. 88.

    NotMax

    January 23, 2024 at 12:06 am

    @jimmiraybob

    It was season two. Not gonna direct link to the Wikipedia page because spoilers. Instead just an appetizer from there.

    Floyd Gerhardt is a fictional character in the second season of the FX television series Fargo and is portrayed by Jean Smart. Smart received widespread critical acclaim for her performance, winning the Critics’ Choice Television Award for Best Supporting Actress in a Movie/Miniseries and was nominated for the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Limited Series or Movie.

  89. 89.

    patrick II

    January 23, 2024 at 12:09 am

    @Matt McIrvin: ​
     
    If a young person votes for Biden they will have the opportunity to vote for someone else in four years. Trump not so much.

  90. 90.

    Ohio Mom

    January 23, 2024 at 12:10 am

    @Matt McIrvin: It’s fun to fantasize giving someone else a good “I told you so!” but in real life, it’s never satisfying. Maybe you have to be older to get that.

    The only peace in the Middle East has been created by Democrats. Carter gave us the Israel-Egypt deal, Clinton tried his damnedest with the Oslo Accords.

    Republicans gave us two wars in Iraq.

    It’s just like the economy, Democrats have the better record. But you probably have to be old get that too.

  91. 91.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 23, 2024 at 12:14 am

    @Ohio Mom: I don’t think you even have to believe that Biden will create peace in the Mideast.  All you have to believe, is that if TFG is installed, he will destroy our country and harm many, many Americans.  That should be enough.  Yes, foreigners will also be harmed. Yes, Palestinians will be harmed far more by TFG than by Biden.  But those facts shouldn’t be necessary to conclude that you have to support Biden.

    At least, that’s how I remember my oath of naturalization going.  And the Pledge of Allegiance for that matter.

  92. 92.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 23, 2024 at 12:15 am

    @Yutsano:

    His original cabinet was basically a bunch of Captain Planet villains for the most part. That was already the bottom of the barrel in my opinion. I shudder to think what toxic sludge he would appoint in a hypothetical second term.

    He was getting pretty scary in 2020. He had appointed people like Chad Wolf, the Acting Secretary of Homeland Security, who deployed DHS personnel to places like Portland during the BLM /George Floyd protests where they abducted protesters in unmarked vehicles and did not identify themselves as LEOs. And then of course 1/6 happened.

  93. 93.

    Another Scott

    January 23, 2024 at 12:15 am

    @Matt McIrvin: I just heard a bit of the CBC’s “As it Happens” interview with an apparently older white Republican woman in NH.  Doesn’t like TIFG because he’s a cad.  Didn’t like Hillary because she was so “corrupt!”.  Doesn’t like Biden, doesn’t like Harris.  “I hope there’s some way that both Biden and TIFG won’t be candidates.”  Likes Haley, but doesn’t say why other than I guess she’s not a cad.

    She was asked who she would vote for, and she hemmed and hawed a bit, and said if it’s really Biden and TIFG she’ll probably write in somebody else.

    I didn’t hear any mention at all about policies.  It’s all about her feelings for her.

    I guess it’s good she’s not going to be voting for TIFG, but, man, it shows you how easy it is to get people to pay attention to “clouds and shadows” and feelings rather than think about real problems and the future of the country…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  94. 94.

    NotMax

    January 23, 2024 at 12:16 am

    @wjca

    Also like how each successive season advances the calendar by a year.

  95. 95.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 23, 2024 at 12:17 am

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Yeah, remember when he deployed (in DC) all those federal prison guards from the Bureau of Prisons, without identifying badges and serial numbers (in, IIUC, contravention of federal law) ?

  96. 96.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 23, 2024 at 12:18 am

    @Chetan Murthy:

    Exactly, that’s how I see it too. Like, a second Trump admin will not help anybody, including the Palestinians. It’s a complex situation that we have little direct control over, including Biden. We DO have more direct control over our own government

  97. 97.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 23, 2024 at 12:30 am

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): BTW, I was reflecting on back when you (and I also) were new to this blog, and you were pretty hesitant about your opinions and such.  I’m glad you stuck around.

  98. 98.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 23, 2024 at 12:33 am

    @wjca:

    On his bicycle? That’s a funny image lol

  99. 99.

    Manyakitty

    January 23, 2024 at 12:47 am

    Reservation Dogs on Hulu

    Northern Exposure on Amazon

    Dark Winds was excellent and I’m sad to hear that Three Pines didn’t get renewed. Julia on HBO met the same tragic fate and I thought it was smart and fun and it had Bebe Neuwerth.

  100. 100.

    prostratedragon

    January 23, 2024 at 12:53 am

    Maybe the roughly 4 minutes from the cue would get through to some. The demonstrations in Germany that are referred to are described here and here.

  101. 101.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 23, 2024 at 12:56 am

    @Chetan Murthy:

    BTW, I was reflecting on back when you (and I also) were new to this blog, and you were pretty hesitant about your opinions and such. I’m glad you stuck around.

    Thanks for that. I’m glad you’re still here too. A lot of folks have drifted away or sadly passed away. It’s hard to believe I’ve been a commenter here since 2017, though I had lurked on BJ since 2011 or so, and it’s now 2024. Halfway through the 2020s! I was 21 then and now I’m 28. Where did the time go?

    Ironically, I think I’ve mellowed out a lot compared to how I was back then

  102. 102.

    wjca

    January 23, 2024 at 1:03 am

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): On his bicycle? That’s a funny image lol

    Definitely a smile.  And not the only one.

  103. 103.

    prostratedragon

    January 23, 2024 at 1:09 am

    @wjca:  Those who don’t have Prime, seems there are many complete episodes on youtube.

  104. 104.

    Maxim

    January 23, 2024 at 1:19 am

    Echoing the recommendations for Three Pines (and screw them for not renewing it), The Bear, Reservation Dogs, Dark Winds, Blue Eye Samurai, True Detective. Can also recommend Reacher.

  105. 105.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 23, 2024 at 1:20 am

    How do you feel about gore?  No, not Al.

    I’d you’re ok with some gore, then I highly recommend BONES that ran for 12 seasons on FOX.  I think the entire series is on Hulu.

  106. 106.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 23, 2024 at 1:22 am

    @Maxim: Did it run for three seasons?

  107. 107.

    Ruckus

    January 23, 2024 at 2:29 am

    Going to ask a question here.

    How is it that a flaming jackass, with over 90 felony counts against him, with the mental acuity of an empty  box of tissue, the competence of a used roll of TP, the grace of a mine explosion, an unearned ego bigger than the entire state of NY, a butt crack for a throat, the social grace of an out of control semi truck with fully loaded trailer, zero shame, an IQ that starts with a decimal point, is an ex president, and is the rethuglican party choice once again, after proving how incompetent he was the first time. And worse since?

  108. 108.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    January 23, 2024 at 3:39 am

    @Ruckus:

    I started to formulate some kind of an answer and finally said fuck it. Probably because they’re a bunch of hateful pricks and TFG’s the only asshole big enough to fulfill their fascist fantasies of hurting the people that they have been taught to hate.

    The whole party is out of control so maybe that’s why he found it so easy to seize control for himself.

  109. 109.

    Manyakitty

    January 23, 2024 at 5:02 am

    @Ruckus: proof that there is no god?

  110. 110.

    Matt McIrvin

    January 23, 2024 at 6:34 am

    @Chetan Murthy:

    All you have to believe, is that if TFG is installed, he will destroy our country and harm many, many Americans.  That should be enough.

    Then there are the people for whom that’s why they want Trump elected. But I think they’re a minority of a minority.

  111. 111.

    Betty

    January 23, 2024 at 7:00 am

    @CaseyL: I would guess it has to do with what they are seeing on social media. Someone is putting a lot of effort into persuading them in this issue.

  112. 112.

    Ramalama

    January 23, 2024 at 7:12 am

    @BretH: If your daughter is anything like my cousin, then she might have supported (in the hoopla sense – she is too young to have been able to vote for him) Elmer.

    My cousin, older than your daughter, but still a youngin ran and won a seat on a local board. An Elmer all the way kind of guy, he is thinking about sitting out on this presidential election, which a few of us relatives are scrambling to come up with the right thing to say to move him to vote when the day comes.

    And then in my inbox an email from Elmer, which I read! We think this will get my cousin to move. Perhaps it will help seal the deal with your daughter:

    Frankly, these voters are not happy with some of what the president and his administration have done – or has not done. I get that. And I, personally, don’t disagree. There are a number of areas where the Administration’s response has been inadequate or dead wrong. But, sitting out this election or even voting for Trump is definitely not the answer. That leads to catastrophe.

  113. 113.

    Ramalama

    January 23, 2024 at 7:23 am

    @rekoob: Even for those of me who roll my eyes at a lot of Sci Fi tv and movies, For All Mankind on Apple IS TERRIFIC.

    I also loved

    Bad Sisters,
    The Diplomat,
    The Bear (hoo boy was that amazing, especially the episode with Jamie Lee Curtis),
    Deutschland 83,
    Black Earth Rising.

    On various streaming platforms near you.

  114. 114.

    lee

    January 23, 2024 at 8:32 am

    Here’s an out-of-the-box suggestion: Veronica Mars

    I downloaded it and put it on my Plex a few years ago as a ‘I might watch this at some point’. I finally got around and I was hooked. Yes it does have more than a few eye-rolling & cringe teenage moments. But it also deals with a lot of dark and adult themes.

  115. 115.

    Tom Hamill

    January 23, 2024 at 8:33 am

    It’s an El Nino year, and southern tier states tend wet during El Ninos.

  116. 116.

    lee

    January 23, 2024 at 8:42 am

    @Ruckus: ​
    He gives voice to their hate and bigotry. He claims he is going to hurt the people they want hurt. Just look at how Justice Beer-Bro was cheered when he said he was going to make ‘people pay’

  117. 117.

    Paul in KY

    January 23, 2024 at 11:11 am

    @Matt McIrvin: They have no real leverage, when it comes to foreign policy. If they think TFG will be better for the Palestinians, they’ve been smoking bad bath salts.

  118. 118.

    MaryRC

    January 23, 2024 at 2:24 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: Another vote for Astrid here.

  119. 119.

    BruceJ

    January 23, 2024 at 2:50 pm

    @kindness: The Seasonal ‘monsoons’ are a summer thing moisture comin northeast up from the gulf of Mexico. The rain we’re getting right now is an El Niño thing. Moisture coming west off the Pacific.

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