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Tuesday Night Open Thread

by John Cole|  February 27, 202410:00 pm| 102 Comments

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Not much to report here- starting to understand island time because every day the weather is the same. Because it was so nice and I wanted something somewhat light and easy to cook, I was feeling fajitas. So I whipped up some of those and made a fruit salad with a pineapple base, and that was dinner.

***

So help me allah, should anyone ever mention replacing Biden in front of me I might make the nightly news. It’s so fucking insane and what is nauseating is I have lived through this type of media driven nonsense so many fucking times. Remember the Hillaryis44 and PUMA (Party Unity My Ass) crowd going into fucking June thinking they still had a path to victory? Or the Bernie folks convinced the maths would work out for them? Or the unskew the polls idiots? Every single one of them was denying what was clearly right in front of their fucking faces. And over and over and over again. And the media was right there with them, in many cases enabling their nonsense.

This is worse than even any of those previous cases. This is a sitting fucking President. Do these imbeciles not understand the fucking power of incumbency? And not only that, how would they fucking do it? Just invalidate the will of the Democratic voters, who, by the way, are still fucking going out every primary and saying “Yeah I like Biden.” It’s insanity, it’s anti-democratic, and it is basically impossible. Only two things are going to keep Biden off the ballot at this point- him saying “Fuck all of you I’m off to drive a corvette and eat ice cream,” or his death. And you can make all the fucking old jokes you want, it will have to be a sudden and unexpected passing like a heart attack or embolism, because he may be old, but he’s healthy as fuck and under constant surveillance by THE BEST FUCKING DOCTORS IN THE WORLD. If money and the best modern medicine can keep that meth addled big mac chomping diet coke swilling Trump alive, Biden ain’t going anywhere.

Speaking of, Biden won Michigan. Again.

And because of this stupidity being mainstreamed, we’re subjected to nonsense like this:

Bill Ackman talking about Dean Phillips here is a good example of Bill Ackman knowing absolutely nothing about how politics works pic.twitter.com/M8QI3FkGZ7

— Peter Hamby (@PeterHamby) February 26, 2024

That’s Bill Ackman, an asshole of nearly unparalleled achievement in the field of being an insufferable thin skinned prick, whom I am sure you have all heard of because of his recent DEI bullshit. It goes without saying that as an asshole of that magnitude, he is, of course, a billionaire. It’s really a chicken or the egg argument- do only assholes become billionaires, or do billionaires become assholes? Another fucking imbecile with all the money in the world and all they want to do is either make people adore them or burn it all down. All I want is to be able to afford a new roof and a pool. Fucker.

At any rate, seeing that reminded me of something I know I have said or written at least a dozen times, but one of the most depressing realities about becoming an adult is the repeated, multiple times daily, near constant re-realization that almost everyone in real positions of power is an absolute fucking moron outside their narrow niche area of expertise, and often times, in that, too. And the corollary, of course, is that everyone actually qualified to do the job and smart enough to be in a position of power either has imposter syndrome like seemingly half the women I know or they are too smart and realize they don’t want nothing to do with real power and the moral dilemmas and the consequences. So we’re left with fucking half-witted sociopaths.

***

Speaking of assholes, this made me smile because I am a garbage human being:

Tuesday Night Open Thread 2

That is all.

***

It’s still early, so I think I am going to go clean up after dinner and try to steal the remote from Bunny. Wish me luck.

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  1. 1.

    Lord Fartdaddy (Formerly, Mumphrey, Smedley Darlington Mingobat, et al.)

    February 27, 2024 at 10:11 pm

    There’s nothing wrong with congratulating Limbaugh on his remarkable achievement. Don’t feel bad about it. Embrace it.

  2. 2.

    trollhattan

    February 27, 2024 at 10:12 pm

    starting to understand island time because every day the weather is the same.

    Mwa-ha-ha./archvillian voice
    Enjoy, a massive change of scenery can be wonderful.
    We have One More Winter Storm approaching after being teased with 72 for a few days. Yup, one of the false spring sucker here. Guess we need the water for all those fucking almonds.​

  3. 3.

    Jackie

    February 27, 2024 at 10:14 pm

    and try to steal the remote from Bunny. Wish me luck.

    😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

    Oh, I mean good luck!

  4. 4.

    Jeffro

    February 27, 2024 at 10:16 pm

    People like Ackman actually make me wonder if we shouldn’t (in addition to having an EXTREMELY progressive income tax) just flat out take away rich folks’ right to contribute to campaigns.

    (Sometimes I think we should take away their right to vote too, but they can keep that, if we just take away their wildly distorting effects on our nation’s discourse and elections.)

    “Congratulations!  Your net worth is over $20M!!  The only downside is, you have to just…go and live your life of luxury, only contributing to our nation’s civic life if you vote.  Just your one vote, though.  And don’t let us catch you near a microphone.”

  5. 5.

    Scout211

    February 27, 2024 at 10:22 pm

    I was about to add a comment when the post disappeared  but I’m glad it’s back up. Righteous rant, good sir.

    The Ackman video was stunning in that it made me cringe and become slightly nauseated.

    That’s Bill Ackman, an asshole of nearly unparalleled achievement in the field of being an insufferable thin skinned prick

    Perfect description.

    But now that the results are coming in for the Michigan primary, every single word that asshole said in that smarmy interview was not just wrong, it was dead wrong. Right now his guy Phillips is running slightly behind Marianne Williamson. Good pick, Ackman.

  6. 6.

    eclare

    February 27, 2024 at 10:25 pm

    So John calls Joelle Bunny now?

  7. 7.

    Chacal Charles Calthrop

    February 27, 2024 at 10:27 pm

    LGM had a rather amusing post on Ackman spoofing the Hero’s Journey:

    https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2024/02/bill-ackmans-journey

  8. 8.

    dmsilev

    February 27, 2024 at 10:28 pm

    @Scout211:

    Right now his guy Phillips is running slightly behind Marianne Williamson. Good pick, Ackman.

    It’s even more impressive when you remember that she ended her campaign a few weeks ago.

  9. 9.

    piratedan

    February 27, 2024 at 10:30 pm

    @eclare: yes….

     

    no idea if this is representative of Manga Bunny Girl play or not, but I fear we digress into the field where too much information resides.

  10. 10.

    Steeplejack

    February 27, 2024 at 10:32 pm

    @eclare:

    Yes. He described the dubbing circumstances in a post a couple of weeks ago. From February 13:

    I dunno if I have mentioned it before, but Bunny is Joelle. One day I came down the stairs and she was all sprawled out on the couch like it was a chaise lounge with a remote in one hand and a martini glass in the other and I just looked at her and said: “Who the fuck do you think you are, Bunny Lebowski?” And it stuck.

  11. 11.

    eclare

    February 27, 2024 at 10:34 pm

    @piratedan:

    My first thought was Honey Bunny in Pulp Fiction.

  12. 12.

    Princess

    February 27, 2024 at 10:35 pm

    CNN right now re Michigan:

    “While Biden easily won the Democratic race, but the results carried some warning signs for the president. ”

    “Trump continues to dominate: Trump has won every 2024 GOP contest so far, and is closing on winning the nomination ”

    Guess which candidate has a bigger share of his party’s supporters voting for him? Go ahead, I dare you.

    These people are all clowns. The line about Biden isn’t even *grammatically* correct.

  13. 13.

    Doc Sardonic

    February 27, 2024 at 10:35 pm

    @piratedan: It’s a Big Lebowski reference.

  14. 14.

    eclare

    February 27, 2024 at 10:37 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    Thanks!

  15. 15.

    piratedan

    February 27, 2024 at 10:39 pm

    @Doc Sardonic: yeah, but my response was more fun :-)

  16. 16.

    sab

    February 27, 2024 at 10:41 pm

    58° in NE Ohio at 10:40 pm, and the temperarure is supposed to go up not down for the rest of the night. Argh.

  17. 17.

    Lyrebird

    February 27, 2024 at 10:42 pm

    @Princess: Guess which candidate has a bigger share of his party’s supporters voting for him? Go ahead, I dare you.

    The candidate who shows plenty of evidence of being in full possession of his faculties perhaps?  The one who hires good people and pays them?  Who clearly loves and respects his wife?

    the CNN fools are nauseating.  maybe tools is more appropriate

  18. 18.

    Brachiator

    February 27, 2024 at 10:43 pm

    @Princess:

    “While Biden easily won the Democratic race, but the results carried some warning signs for the president. ”

    I’m not sure what these warning signs are supposed to be and don’t much care.

    “Trump continues to dominate: Trump has won every 2024 GOP contest so far, and is closing on winning the nomination ”

    And Trump has legal problems that are not going away. And he will probably get into more trouble. The GOP will have to deal with all his baggage.

  19. 19.

    Anoniminous

    February 27, 2024 at 10:44 pm

    “Despite winning 80% of the vote Biden heads into Super Tuesday a weak candidate in a divided party”  —- says every talking head, everywhere.

    And then they wonder why the News Media are going bankrupt.

  20. 20.

    Librarian

    February 27, 2024 at 10:46 pm

    Yes, whatever the uncommitted total is in Michigan, the media is going to eat it up with a spoon and portray it as “bad news for Joe Biden,” because of course they will.

  21. 21.

    Quinerly

    February 27, 2024 at 10:46 pm

    @eclare: mine too.

    Love that movie.

  22. 22.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 27, 2024 at 10:49 pm

    I guess I just don’t get out enough. I’ve never heard of Bill Ackman, but listening to that nonsensical dreck spewing from his mouth, all I could think was “Christ, what an asshole.”

    ETA: I didn’t recognize him or remember his name, but I just looked up his Wikipedia page and realize I do know who he is after all. Christ, what an asshole.

  23. 23.

    dmsilev

    February 27, 2024 at 10:53 pm

    @Anoniminous:

    Josh Marshall wrote this a couple of hours ago before the vote counts started coming in:

    8:37 PM: We’re still seeing just the first results out of Michigan. Too early to draw any real conclusions. But some benchmarks are helpful. In 2012, 2016 and 2020, “uncommitted” got around 20,000 votes. In 2012 that was 11% of the votes. That’s a helpful benchmark since that was the last time an incumbent Democratic President was on the ballot.

    One of the numbers crunchers I follow points to 17% for uncommitted as a threshold below which you could say the Gaza/Uncommitted push has failed vs over that and it has some success. The best hints I’m seeing have it right about there and maybe a point or two higher. So modest success but some success. But again, that’s tentative so far. It’s difficult to model this since there aren’t obvious baselines from earlier elections.

    Right now, uncommitted is at about 14% of the vote, so, you know, not all that much higher than it was for Obama 12 years ago. Somehow, that doesn’t seem to be leading the news headlines.

  24. 24.

    CaseyL

    February 27, 2024 at 10:55 pm

    @Anoniminous: ​

    Alas, it’s mostly the good news outlets that are closing down, or being taken over by rich assholes who gut them and then close them down.

    Honestly, if I could wave a magic wand and simply make everyone on the planet who’s worth more than $5 billion disappear, I’d do it in a heartbeat, no regrets.

    I’d make an exception for Mackenzie Scott. But that’s it.

  25. 25.

    Steve in the ATL

    February 27, 2024 at 10:58 pm

    1. No one becomes a billionaire without being a bastard.

    2. It’s 70° here in L.A.  What?  Haha—no, not THAT L.A—I’m in Lower Alabama!  Where I did I have a remarkably passable Valpolicella earlier, most unexpectedly.  Paired nicely with my possum filet and squirrel brains.

    ETA: a special thank you to our blog master for preparing for journey here by posting overalls pictures.  Roll tide!

  26. 26.

    mrmoshpotato

    February 27, 2024 at 11:01 pm

    So help me allah, should anyone ever mention replacing Biden in front of me I might make the nightly news. It’s so fucking insane and what is nauseating is I have lived through this type of media driven nonsense so many fucking times. Remember the Hillaryis44 and PUMA (Party Unity My Ass) crowd going into fucking June thinking they still had a path to victory? Or the Bernie folks convinced the maths would work out for them? Or the unskew the polls idiots? Every single one of them was denying what was clearly right in front of their fucking faces. And over and over and over again. And the media was right there with them, in many cases enabling their nonsense.

    With you 100,000%!

  27. 27.

    Joelle

    February 27, 2024 at 11:04 pm

    I started watching Bridgerton tonight so Cole wisely pussed out with the remote and blew up a bunch of tanks or orcs or something in the den of inequity.  He’s made some pretty good chow the past two nights so I did him a solid and cleaned the kitchen after I was properly introduced to all the debutants about to be trafficked OG style.  It was a good night.

  28. 28.

    NotMax

    February 27, 2024 at 11:07 pm

    whom I am sure you have all heard of

    First I’ve heard the name and I wish that happenstance had been indefinitely postponed.

  29. 29.

    Jackie

    February 27, 2024 at 11:07 pm

    @Brachiator: And, TIFG is losing to Biden, despite/in spite of the uncommitted (protest) votes 😂

  30. 30.

    gwangung

    February 27, 2024 at 11:08 pm

    @dmsilev: That’s actually informative.

    But +3 is really not that big of a bump in uncommitted…might be within the noise of elections behavior (or it might not…but it’s not that big).

    Let’s see how the night goes…

  31. 31.

    mrmoshpotato

    February 27, 2024 at 11:09 pm

    Speaking of assholes, this made me smile because I am a garbage human being:

    No, you aren’t a garbage human being.  That Trump-trash pile of shit (no offense, shit) IS STILL DEAD! 👍👍👍

  32. 32.

    gwangung

    February 27, 2024 at 11:14 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Ackman is an idiot savant, whose forte is in finance. He’s just a plain idiot in everything else.

  33. 33.

    Frankensteinbeck

    February 27, 2024 at 11:18 pm

    @dmsilev:

    This is incredibly good news.  Thank you.  Up until now we’ve only had anecdata of how much trouble the issue will be.  How angry individuals are tells us nothing, we need to know how many are angry.  It sounds like not enough to show up beyond statistical noise.  This is an important issue we shouldn’t take lightly, but it’s also an extremely complicated, no-win issue that I do not envy Biden having to deal with.

  34. 34.

    NotMax

    February 27, 2024 at 11:20 pm

    Did someone say bunny?
    :)

  35. 35.

    wjca

    February 27, 2024 at 11:22 pm

    It’s really a chicken or the egg argument- do only assholes become billionaires, or do billionaires become assholes?

    Also @Steve in the ATL: No one becomes a billionaire without being a bastard.

    It’s more that billionaire assholes are so visible.  The ones who aren’t bastards mostly don’t show up.  See, for example, Warren Buffett.  Got rich while making a lot of people in his home town rich as well.

    EDT Note that Howard Buffett (Warren’s son) has been spending big bucks ($500 million) on aiding Ukraine.

  36. 36.

    dmsilev

    February 27, 2024 at 11:22 pm

    I should caveat the comparison with 2012 by noting that it was a caucus held at the tail end of primary season, so total turnout was notably lower than today. Hence, not a perfect match. But still seems like important context.

  37. 37.

    sukabi

    February 27, 2024 at 11:23 pm

    I’ll join you in your garbage can John, I laughed at Rush’s sobriety too. lol

  38. 38.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    February 27, 2024 at 11:24 pm

    Ahh yes, PUMAs and GoatBoy, I mean myiq2xu. What a clown, literally. Those were innocent days compared to the shit we have going now.

    Oh yeah, fuck the fucking New York Times. Nothing in particular, just something that crosses my mind too often in these times.

  39. 39.

    Jackie

    February 27, 2024 at 11:24 pm

    @Joelle: I called it early for you winning the battle of the remote 😂👍🏻

  40. 40.

    Frankensteinbeck

    February 27, 2024 at 11:27 pm

    Studies say that being an asshole is an advantage in getting super rich, because you’re willing to focus on money in a way decent people won’t.  When you get that rich you’re also isolated in a bubble of no consequences that tends to show off who you really are, and that is not flattering for most people.  A lot of us are good only because we work at it.  Think of it as being drunk all the time.  Finally, as @wjca points out, you almost never hear about the super rich who aren’t spending their time and wealth inflicting their assholery on the rest of us.  Why would you hear about a billionaire who is content to enjoy luxury, run companies efficiently, or spend time with his loved ones?

  41. 41.

    dmsilev

    February 27, 2024 at 11:27 pm

    @Odie Hugh Manatee:

    myiq2xu

    Ah, now that’s a name string of characters I haven’t seen in a long time. Thankfully.

  42. 42.

    Chetan Murthy

    February 27, 2024 at 11:28 pm

    @Jeffro:

    just flat out take away rich folks’ right to contribute to campaigns.

    Before Citizens United (FFS, the acronym pissed me TF off really, really did, fuck them), rich folks could contribute the Federal max, like anybody else.  But now, they can contribute gazillions.   A good start would be undoing that fucking decision and reinstating real limits on campaign contributions of all sorts.  And *disclosure* too.  Again, FFS.

  43. 43.

    Steeplejack

    February 27, 2024 at 11:31 pm

    @Joelle:

    Stand your ground!

  44. 44.

    NotMax

    February 27, 2024 at 11:34 pm

    Now afflicted with an earworm hearing Martita Hunt as the elegant headmistress emerita searching through the school cajoling “Bunny? BUHnny!” in 1965’s Bunny Lake Is Missing.
    ;)

  45. 45.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    February 27, 2024 at 11:34 pm

    @Odie Hugh Manatee: @dmsilev:

    myiq2xu

    Ugh. I could have lived quite happily never having encountered that sequence of characters. Oh, well.

  46. 46.

    Frankensteinbeck

    February 27, 2024 at 11:35 pm

    @dmsilev:

    I see what you did there.

  47. 47.

    Steeplejack

    February 27, 2024 at 11:38 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    I did some back-of-the-envelope calculations in a comment downstairs. Turns out that the population of Dearborn, the epicenter of “uncommitted” opposition to Biden, is about 110,000, or about 6% of the population of Wayne County (1.8 million). As I wrote downstairs:

    I’m not trying to minimize the dissatisfaction of the protest voters, and I’m not saying they’re all Muslims, but I sort of feel like this could be another case where the media has been overemphasizing the threat to Biden. I guess we’ll see as the rest of the results come in.

    ETA: MSNBC now showing “uncommitted” at 13.4% statewide (with 57% of the vote counted).

  48. 48.

    NotMax

    February 27, 2024 at 11:41 pm

    because every day the weather is the same

    Near-standard Hawaiian winter/spring forecast in a nutshell:

    “It’ll either rain at some point today or it won’t.”

  49. 49.

    TS

    February 27, 2024 at 11:44 pm

    @Princess:

    Trump continues to dominate: Trump has won every 2024 GOP contest so far, and is closing on winning the nomination ”

    Biden is the nominee, democratic voters are thinking they don’t even need to vote – and still he gets over 80%  – beating trump any which way what way. trump is not so popular this time around. Media obviously wants to be locked up in cages again

  50. 50.

    West of the Rockies

    February 27, 2024 at 11:48 pm

    Congratulations to us:  Limbaugh “has assumed room temperature.”  (As he used to say about Ted Kennedy,  et al.)

  51. 51.

    Jackie

    February 27, 2024 at 11:50 pm

    MSNBC had Michigan’s State Senator Mallory McMorrow on earlier – impressive as always. I hope she runs for a federal seat in a few years!

    For those who don’t remember who she is, she’s the spirited ginger haired suburban mom who took umbrage at being called a Groomer a few years back by a MAGAt:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/28/mcmorrow-theis-michigan-senate-00048330

    Here’s her speaking of that accusation:

    https://youtu.be/iLWo8B1R0MY?si=m4aGRntk5gw_nhqn

  52. 52.

    Brachiator

    February 27, 2024 at 11:52 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Right now, uncommitted is at about 14% of the vote, so, you know, not all that much higher than it was for Obama 12 years ago. Somehow, that doesn’t seem to be leading the news headlines.

    It’s hard for me to worry about this. If the uncommitted vote here is related to Gaza, then what the world looks like in October might make a difference. And even here, the GOP will have signaled their policy goals, so the alternatives may be more clear.

  53. 53.

    Jacqueline Squid Onassis

    February 27, 2024 at 11:57 pm

    Having gone to school with Billy from 2nd through 11th grade, I feel confident that being a billionaire makes one into an asshole.  He sure wasn’t when I knew him but he’s just a giant, gaping asshole now.

  54. 54.

    wjca

    February 28, 2024 at 12:00 am

    @Frankensteinbeck: Why would you hear about a billionaire who is content to enjoy luxury, run companies efficiently, or spend time with his loved ones?

    In other words, a guy who isn’t totally fixated on being as rich as possible.  Instead he acts like a normal human being; the billion plus being incidental to who and what he is.

  55. 55.

    Frankensteinbeck

    February 28, 2024 at 12:05 am

    @wjca:

    Hell, even a guy committed to being as rich as possible rather than making that wealth your problem.  If Musk weren’t so determined to cause misery to feed his ego and just focused on business, we would barely know his name.

  56. 56.

    Origuy

    February 28, 2024 at 12:05 am

    A singalong for the thread:

    You’re an Asshole Tonight

    By Bird & MacDonald

  57. 57.

    thalarctosMaritimus

    February 28, 2024 at 12:05 am

    @gwangung: And even there, I’m informed, he’s renowned as an asshole among assholes.

  58. 58.

    frosty

    February 28, 2024 at 12:06 am

    John, I have to say this was a rant with language to match Ms. Cracker’s*. I enjoyed it immensely – it’s good to see you writing so often!

    * Consider this to be high praise!

  59. 59.

    Hoppie

    February 28, 2024 at 12:08 am

    Then each time Fleetwood would be not so much overcome by remorse as bedazzled at having been shown the secret backlands of wealth, and how sooner or later it depended on some act of murder, seldom limited to once.”

  60. 60.

    Fake Irishman

    February 28, 2024 at 12:15 am

    @dmsilev:

    Update: “uncommitted” has been dropping as a share of the vote as more vote has come in. Even in Washtenaw, home of the hyper plugged in, international, university crowd, it’s  fallen below 20 percent. In Wayne, with the large Arab and Muslim (both Arab and non-Arab) population, it’s fallen below 18 percent.

    Statewide it’s at 13.3 percent and falling every time I hit refresh on the Detroit Free Press’ web site.

    This looks pretty similar to Obama 2012.

  61. 61.

    danielx

    February 28, 2024 at 12:16 am

    @West of the Rockies:

    Christ, I hope not. Alive and dripping…..

  62. 62.

    prostratedragon

    February 28, 2024 at 12:23 am

    @Fake Irishman:

    Also:

    This is wild.

    During Obama’s incumbent primary in 2012, he got a total of 174,054 votes in Michigan. There were a total of 194,887 votes cast in the entire Dem primary.
    Joe Biden already has over 343,000 votes – with only 46% of the votes in.

  63. 63.

    danielx

    February 28, 2024 at 12:24 am

    @wjca: ​
     As opposed to an abnormal human being whose identity is totally wrapped up in money, and whose money is wrapped up with his identity. It certainly doesn’t seem to have made TFG happy. No wonder he’s crazy as a shithouse mouse and getting crazier.

  64. 64.

    Fake Irishman

    February 28, 2024 at 12:26 am

    @Brachiator:

    Also, while the Muslim and Arab vote (a Venn diagram with significant but not majority overlap) is an important part of the Dem coalition in Michigan I would submit the following:

    1. It is relatively small, even in a close state like Michigan

    2. Foreign affairs generally plays a vanishingly small role in the vast majority of voters decisions. (Remember how HW Bush won a second term based on his extraordinarily successful foreign policy of managing the end of the Cold War, stopping nuclear proliferation, and building a gigantic coalition to check real Iraqi aggression? Neither do I.)

    3. There was already significant erosion in the Michigan Muslim and Arab vote for Democrats in the 2022 midterms. Likely reasons include the abortion referendum. (Dems still won big majorities in places like Dearborn and Hammtramak, but they were getting like 60 percent instead of 80 percent they were getting in 2018 and 2020)

    And no, I’m not suggesting that we should triangulate on women’s issues, but I am suggesting we have a sense of proportion.

  65. 65.

    VFX Lurker

    February 28, 2024 at 12:26 am

    @Fake Irishman:

    Update: “uncommitted” has been dropping as a share of the vote as more vote has come in. Even in Washtenaw, home of the hyper plugged in, international, university crowd, it’s  fallen below 20 percent. In Wayne, with the large Arab and Muslim (both Arab and non-Arab) population, it’s fallen below 18 percent.

    Statewide it’s at 13.3 percent and falling every time I hit refresh on the Detroit Free Press’ web site.

    This looks pretty similar to Obama 2012.

    So, the news reports on an “uncommitted” protest vote for weeks, reports on the “uncommitted” protest vote on election night, and will keep reporting on Michigan’s “uncommitted” voters for the next week, despite a Biden blowout.

    I feel so informed.

  66. 66.

    Anoniminous

    February 28, 2024 at 12:27 am

    @dmsilev:

    As I said elsewhere tonight, it’s easy being Uncommitted when you know Biden is going to win and you don’t have skin in the game.  You can register a protest vote knowing it’s meaningless.

  67. 67.

    wjca

    February 28, 2024 at 12:29 am

    @frosty: it’s good to see you writing so often!

    Do you suppose we should credit Joelle’s influence/inspiration?

  68. 68.

    Brachiator

    February 28, 2024 at 12:31 am

    @Fake Irishman:

    And no, I’m not suggesting that we should triangulate on women’s issues, but I am suggesting we have a sense of proportion.

    True enough. And more simply, the primary results here may not say anything significant about voter intent in the general election.

    It might be interesting if uncommitted voters were tracked for the next few months, but otherwise you cannot draw any conclusions from these primary results.

  69. 69.

    Anoniminous

    February 28, 2024 at 12:33 am

    @CaseyL:
    One take-away from the TechBro enrichment of the past twenty years and the complete bullshit they’ve done with those piles of money is the uber-wealthy are incapable of using their money wisely, which to me includes humanely.  Goes to show why one secondary definition of “nouveau riche” is “greedy uncultured asshole.”   (and see Trump, too, also)​

  70. 70.

    Fake Irishman

    February 28, 2024 at 12:33 am

    @VFX Lurker:

    Pretty much.

    and it’s not just a Biden blowout: it’s “uncommitted” moving the needle by a grand total of less than 1 percentage point over 2013. (Seriously, every big batch of Election day votes in Washtenaw and Wayne counties are dropping the uncommitted share by a percentage point or two in their respective counties. Over the course of the night, “uncommitted” has dropped from more than 15 percent to less than 13 percent statewide.

  71. 71.

    wjca

    February 28, 2024 at 12:34 am

    @danielx:  It certainly doesn’t seem to have made TFG happy.

    Well, it’s looking increasingly like his wealth is somewhere between a house of cards and an illusion.  So it’s understandable that he isn’t happy — he knows, even if he has conned others on the subject, that he does not, in fact, have the money that means so much to him.

  72. 72.

    Frankensteinbeck

    February 28, 2024 at 12:40 am

    @wjca:

    he does not, in fact, have the money that means so much to him.

    He has the property, and great Jehoshaphat, is he proud of it.  That was something I noticed in these trials.  A huge chunk of his ego is wrapped up in the real estate he owns.

    With any luck he will be forced to sell most of them to pay his fines.

  73. 73.

    Chetan Murthy

    February 28, 2024 at 12:45 am

    For those who follow Ackman’s idiocies of late, this might be amusing: https://brontecapital.blogspot.com/2015/06/herbalife-very-long-post.html

    TL;DR Ackman shorted Herbalife, argued it was a pyramid scheme.  John Hempton (well-known for uncovering shorts) investigated and concluded that Herbalife wasn’t a pyramid scheme at all.  He went long.  Turns out, he was right and Ackman was wrong.

    Ackman’s just Gordon Gekko in short pants.

  74. 74.

    gwangung

    February 28, 2024 at 12:45 am

    @Fake Irishman: And, of course, this will not change the narrative from the mainstream media. “Biden faces challenges from within the party” is going to be the story for weeks.

  75. 75.

    dmsilev

    February 28, 2024 at 12:45 am

    @Frankensteinbeck: I think every time he’s forced to sell one of his properties, the new owner should make a huge big deal about peeling off and destroying the giant ‘Trump’ signs he plasters all over his stuff. You know, burning the signs in a bonfire or a group smash-with-hammers event or whatever.

  76. 76.

    prostratedragon

    February 28, 2024 at 12:53 am

    We’ll be finding out how much is encumbered, of white elephant status (Mar a Lago), or not owned by him at all beyond naming rights. I think he’s supposed to own 40 Wall St., as AG James has recently reminded him.

  77. 77.

    wjca

    February 28, 2024 at 12:59 am

    @Frankensteinbeck: He has the property, and great Jehoshaphat, is he proud of it.

    Except that, if most of it is mortgaged to the hilt (definitely the smart money bet), his share of its value is a fraction of its nominal total value.

    Which also impacts how many properties he would have to sell, in order to net enough cash to pay his fines.  And, if he does that, his illusion of wealth starts to collapse.

    EDT It appears that several of use are on the same page here.

    P.S. I wonder if “naming rights” have any residual value at all?

  78. 78.

    piratedan

    February 28, 2024 at 1:02 am

    I know that if I had 44 Billion dollars to spend, I sure wouldn’t think that allowing Nazi’s a free-forum to espouse their white supremacy fascist bullshit to be THE cause that needed to be righted….

    Maybe something like developing a company to clean up the oceans or developing tidal energy or eradicating spam calls on every phone network.

  79. 79.

    NotMax

    February 28, 2024 at 1:03 am

    @prostratedragon

    Ivanka (AFAIK) is not forbidden doing business with banks registered in NY.

    An end run cash scramble to pay for Daddy dearest’s fines? Just sayin’.

  80. 80.

    Chetan Murthy

    February 28, 2024 at 1:03 am

    @piratedan: That’s b/c you’re not Apartheid Clyde.

  81. 81.

    Chetan Murthy

    February 28, 2024 at 1:04 am

    @NotMax: I for one am banking on his offspring being chips off the ol’ block.  Treating him like he treated his pappy and siblings.  That is to say, 100% down to slip in the shiv.

  82. 82.

    RobertS

    February 28, 2024 at 1:07 am

    If you’re so rich, why aren’t you smart?

    JFC.   This nitwit thinks that 60% of the Republican’s won’t vote for Trump.    We’re running Republican primaries RIGHT NOW, and the never Trumpers are at best 30%.

  83. 83.

    BSChief

    February 28, 2024 at 1:14 am

    I too am a garbage human being.

  84. 84.

    Manyakitty

    February 28, 2024 at 1:19 am

    @sab: the storms keep splitting to the north and south of us. So far, we’re only getting a little rain.

  85. 85.

    prostratedragon

    February 28, 2024 at 1:19 am

    @NotMax:  Might be legally permissible, and she could be interested in salvaging some scraps of her eventual inheritance,  but I’m thinking she’d still get a rousing Trump welcome at the half billion level. Even with any remaining properties under guardianship.

    As to what else rich people could, the last weeks have seen one donate roughly the same amount as TFG fraud fine to humanitarian aid in Ukraine, and another donate a billion dollars to make Einstein Medical tuition-free. It’s almost as if they’re making a point, though these must have been in the works for a while.

  86. 86.

    cain

    February 28, 2024 at 1:28 am

    @eclare:

    The Russians have something like that called Zakya.

  87. 87.

    HumboldtBlue

    February 28, 2024 at 1:35 am

    Just finished episode 1 of Shogun. Visually stunning, it’s got promise. The 44 people who reviewed it for Rotten Tomatoes were unanimous in their hearty approval.

  88. 88.

    NotMax

    February 28, 2024 at 1:41 am

    @HumboldtBlue

    From one of the sources I routinely check in advance:

    Our Call: STREAM IT. Between the cast, the amazing scenery (some real, some CGI), and a story with much more authenticity than even the original novel may have had, the new version of Shōgun has the potential to be a captivating watch. Source

    Don’t always agree with their takes but a helpful way to cull the dross nonetheless.

  89. 89.

    HumboldtBlue

    February 28, 2024 at 1:44 am

    @NotMax:

    I’ll watch episode 2 tomorrow, and then I think I may let the entire series play out before I watch the following eight episodes.

  90. 90.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 28, 2024 at 1:46 am

    @Joelle: ​
     I always look forward to your postings as for once we get an alternate view of the misanthrope Cole.

  91. 91.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 28, 2024 at 1:50 am

    @Anoniminous: The Trumps are “new money” that never aged.  TFG’s granddad was a pimp, dad never got out of Queens and had no aspirations to be Manhattan high society (unlike Donald) and Donald basically pissed away all of Fred’s fortune.

  92. 92.

    NotMax

    February 28, 2024 at 1:50 am

    @HumboldtBlue

    Waiting until the whole season becomes available always a good tactic. IMHO.

    Did the same with State of Happiness on MHz Choice and no regrets. Ability to binge has a lot going for it.

  93. 93.

    rmjohnston

    February 28, 2024 at 1:50 am

    Rudy Giuliani won’t be three years sober until at least five years after his death.

  94. 94.

    piratedan

    February 28, 2024 at 1:52 am

    @rmjohnston: pickled prosecutors purloined a parcel of private papers

  95. 95.

    Tony Jay

    February 28, 2024 at 1:52 am

    FTfGuardian headlines this morning.

    US Primaries Trump scores another convincing win over Haley in Michigan

    Democrats Biden wins in Michigan but sheds support over Gaza

    Yes, they could be FTFNYT headlines. Yes, they deliberately give a false impression of the actual results and what they mean. Yes, the FTFGuardian wants to be the UK version of the FTFNYT in every terrible way it can.

    Nothing new there.

    Also, too, since it looks like Michigan’s Muslim community are still pressing the button for Genocide Joe despite being disgusted with his policy on Gaza, how about we try dropping the “Oh they’re doing it wrong so we should just ignore them” line and maybe acknowledge that they’ve got a serious point?

  96. 96.

    NotMax

    February 28, 2024 at 1:53 am

    @Villago Delenda Est

    Grandad even floated his entire ‘hotel’ upstream as the gold diggings petered out where it had been.

  97. 97.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    February 28, 2024 at 3:29 am

    @HumboldtBlue: Having you watched “Capote vs the Swans”? – it’s Good ole fashion delicious trash.

  98. 98.

    prostratedragon

    February 28, 2024 at 4:35 am

    @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:  Set it up to record all the episodes so I can speed through the annoying ads. Pretty good series, recommended.

  99. 99.

    Manyakitty

    February 28, 2024 at 5:01 am

    @Tony Jay: hey, gfy with that Genocide Joe bullshit. Not cute or funny.

  100. 100.

    Tony Jay

    February 28, 2024 at 6:09 am

    @Manyakitty:

    Should have been in inverted commas.

    Other than that, the point stands.

  101. 101.

    lowtechcyclist

    February 28, 2024 at 6:23 am

    @Anoniminous: ​
     

    “Despite winning 80% of the vote Biden heads into Super Tuesday a weak candidate in a divided party” —- says every talking head, everywhere.

    And then they wonder why the News Media are going bankrupt.

    Indeed. I’d gladly pay for a WaPo subscription if they weren’t doing their share of purveying this bullshit along with all the other usual Village bullshit.

    And just Fuck The Fucking New York Times, because every now and then our favorite acronym should be spelled out in full.

  102. 102.

    Paul in KY

    February 28, 2024 at 11:56 am

    @Lord Fartdaddy (Formerly, Mumphrey, Smedley Darlington Mingobat, et al.): Next time I’m in St. Louis I shall stop by the cemetery to shower him with congratulations!

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