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Balloon Juice

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

“Until such time as the world ends, we will act as though it intends to spin on.”

Historically it was a little unusual for the president to be an incoherent babbling moron.

Is it negotiation when the other party actually wants to shoot the hostage?

You don’t get to peddle hatred on saturday and offer condolences on sunday.

The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

There is no right way to do the wrong thing.

How stupid are these people?

the 10% who apparently lack object permanence

“I was told there would be no fact checking.”

They don’t have outfits that big. nor codpieces that small.

’Where will you hide, Roberts, the laws all being flat?’

Innocent people do not delay justice.

I would try pessimism, but it probably wouldn’t work.

You can’t attract Republican voters. You can only out organize them.

Let there be snark.

I am pretty sure these ‘journalists’ were not always such a bootlicking sycophants.

I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.

JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?

Mediocre white men think RFK Jr’s pathetic midlife crisis is inspirational. The bar is set so low for them, it’s subterranean.

Good lord, these people are nuts.

You are so fucked. Still, I wish you the best of luck.

Incompetence, fear, or corruption? why not all three?

Let’s not be the monsters we hate.

Some judge needs to shut this circus down soon.

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Wednesday Evening Open Thread

by Anne Laurie|  October 22, 20256:11 pm| 64 Comments

This post is in: GOP Death Cult, Open Threads

Why would Trump get involved? He gets to harass immigrants and build his pretty little ballroom while SCOTUS levels an all out assault on civilized society. There's nothing about the government being open that actually does anything for him.

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— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 22, 2025 at 10:48 AM

Per NBC, “Democrats call on ‘disengaged’ Trump to get involved to end shutdown”:

As the government shutdown crosses the three-week mark, Democrats are increasingly calling on President Donald Trump to get more involved in finding a solution.

And some Republicans acknowledge that Trump has been disengaged and say it wouldn’t hurt if he got more involved.

“Hakeem and I reached out to the president today and urged him to sit down and negotiate with us to resolve the health care crisis, address it and end the Trump shutdown,” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., told reporters Tuesday, referring to his House counterpart, Hakeem Jeffries of New York. “We urged him to meet with us, and we said we’ll set up an appointment with him any time, any place before he leaves.”

And as Republican senators ate cheeseburgers at a private lunch meeting with Trump on Tuesday, there was little discussion of the shutdown, several of them said afterward.

“He mentioned it briefly, but my sense is that nothing’s changed,” said Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas. “We’ll talk about all the issues the Democrats want to talk about once the government reopens.”

That has been the GOP strategy all along — to hold firm on its short-term funding bill and expect Democrats to back off their demands to extend Affordable Care Act subsidies. It hasn’t worked, with the Senate voting 11 times to reject the bill that passed the Republican-led House version and seeing no votes changing by even one senator.

Trump has met only once with Schumer and Jeffries, on Sept. 29 — two days before the shutdown began — and it didn’t go well. He reacted hours later by taunting the two Democrats with an artificial intelligence-generated post that put words in Schumer’s mouth and a sombrero on Jeffries’ head…

One observation is I don't believe the GOP really is quite pricing in how damaging politically building a gigantic ballroom and Trump paying himself 250m in the open is when people are visibly hurting economically.

— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 22, 2025 at 10:33 AM

The fundamental assessment of the Trump team is that their core base is unshakable and they can make things as bad as they want and keep them as long as they're being trolly and racist enough.
They're correct on the merits, but they're wrong about the size and distribution.

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— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 22, 2025 at 10:41 AM

One thing about the all stick, no carrot presidency is, like I discussed, the foundational piece of this is it wants to be transformational politics, so it's just sticks all the way down.
But the Trump team thinks that, for his voters, the sticks all the way down IS the carrot.

— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 22, 2025 at 10:45 AM

This works if Trump's base is 45% of the electorate.
It does not work if Trump's base (which we know) is more like 30-35% of the electorate and the rest are squishy voters.

— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 22, 2025 at 10:42 AM

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Wednesday Afternoon Open Thread

by WaterGirl|  October 22, 20251:54 pm| 232 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Crazy day so far, nothing has gone as planned, and I am on my way out the door again in 5 minutes.

No content to offer in this one, but here’s an open thread!

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Wednesday Morning Open Thread

by Anne Laurie|  October 22, 20256:31 am| 480 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Open Threads, Show Us on the Doll Where the Invisible Hand Touched You, Your Place Is In The Resistance

Two weeks from today:

It's not going to get better on its own. Support the 911 March for Health and Science.
RFK Jr. Must Go!!
kffhealthnews.org/news/article…

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— Science Accountability Institute (@scienceai.bsky.social) October 17, 2025 at 1:09 AM

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It’s really notable how — in just the past week — business lobbies have begun to push back on White House tariff, immigration and export/trade policy.
@wsj.com @cnbc.com @bloomberg.com @reuters.com

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— Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 8:18 AM

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(Bloomberg) – Small businesses are urging the US Supreme Court to affirm lower court rulings that President Donald Trump's global tariffs amount to a massive illegal tax on American companies.
@bloomberg.com
www.bloomberg.com/news/article…

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— Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 8:15 AM

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ACKMAN, on @cnbc.com this am: “Trump is the most pro-business President in history.”
Everyone else:

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— Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 10:14 AM

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By 57% to 22%, voters disapprove of Trump's bail out of Argentina, per the new Economist/YouGov poll. Trump voters disapprove by 40% to 35%, even with Trump's name attached to it.

— Geoff Garin (@geoffgarin.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 2:53 PM

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Late Night Open Thread: Defacing the White House

by Anne Laurie|  October 22, 20251:20 am| 60 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Republican Venality, Trumpery

New 20 just dropped to commemorate the Trump presidency

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— Devin Nunes' Alt-Mom (@nunesalt.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 12:09 AM


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The White House is asking people not to share pictures of the East Wing because it’s even worse today.

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— Angry (@angrystaffer.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 6:54 PM

Mary Geddry, from her SubStack — “The Ballrooms of Babylon”:

The air smelled of diesel and delusion. Excavators gnawed at the East Wing like hungry rats while, twenty feet away, Donald Trump stood at a temporary podium declaring victory over mud. “Hello everyone,” he began, scanning the crowd with mock suspicion. “What a friendly group this is. No Democrats are here, right?”

The laughter was nervous, the kind that dies before it reaches the eyes. Trump smiled, satisfied. “I want to thank everyone. This has been a labor of love. We took over a building that was not properly taken care of. It just wasn’t. A very special building. We’re taking care of it.”

Behind him, a crane swung a wrecking ball into a wall that had survived the War of 1812 but not the Second Term. Dust billowed across the lawn as workers in hardhats yelled over the machinery. The press, officially banned but clustered behind chain-link fencing, filmed from the shadows as history groaned beneath the sound of diesel engines…

He beamed toward the horizon of cranes and scaffolds. “And we’re putting up our own money. The government is paying for nothing. You probably hear that beautiful sound of construction in the back. That’s music. That’s the sound of America coming back. When I hear that sound, I think of money. And also, patriotism.”…

Trump smiled for the cameras that weren’t supposed to be there. “We are a wealthy nation again,” he said, “and we can start paying down our debt.” Dust coated the chicken piccata. “We replaced broken tiles with marble, beautiful marble! Paid for by me! Well, me and a few friends. Maybe from Saudi Arabia, who knows?”

He wrapped up with a flourish. “We passed the greatest bill in history! We don’t need any more bills! Everything’s in the bill!” he proclaimed, as a slab of the East Wing façade finally surrendered to gravity behind him.

John Thune stepped forward, dusted off his suit, and said what every hostage must: “Thank you, Mr. President. Your leadership has been historic.”

The crowd rose in uncertain unison. A waiter wheeled out salmon salad as debris drifted across the linen like confetti from an apocalypse parade. The sun broke through the haze, illuminating the hollowed-out silhouette of the People’s House…

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Trump destroying Eleanor Roosevelt‘s legacy (the east wing) feels a little on the nose.

— Molly Jong-Fast (@mollyjongfast.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 3:36 PM

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It’s not his house. It’s your house. And he’s destroying it.

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— Hillary Rodham Clinton (@hillaryclinton.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 8:16 AM

Gift link (Washington Post):

… After a photograph of the demolition was first published Monday by The Washington Post and drew wide attention, the Treasury Department on Monday evening instructed employees not to take and share photos of the White House construction without permission, according to a person who spoke on the condition of anonymity to detail an internal email. The Treasury Department’s headquarters is next to the White House, with some of its offices providing a close view of the East Wing.

Trump has long touted his plans for a 90,000-square-foot structure that would nearly double the footprint of the main building and its East and West wings. He had also suggested that the construction would not affect the existing White House.

“It won’t interfere with the current building. It won’t be. It’ll be near it but not touching it — and pays total respect to the existing building, which I’m the biggest fan of,” Trump said during an executive order signing in July. “It’s my favorite. It’s my favorite place. I love it.”…

The National Park Service, which manages the White House grounds, did not respond to inquiries about how much of the East Wing would be destroyed. In a 56-page document about maintaining the fundamental character of the White House and the surrounding grounds, the Park Service said in 2014 it would work with presidential administrations, the U.S. Secret Service and other agencies “to ensure both the preservation and use of one of the most recognized houses in the world.”…

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War for Ukraine Day 1,335: President Zelenskyy’s Statement on Peace for Ukraine

by Adam L Silverman|  October 21, 20259:33 pm| 24 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

Ukrainian Independence Day painting by NEIVANMADE. The background is black with grotesque armored faces in dark blood red with Russian Z war symbols on their helmets. In the center is a tree. It's roots are red, it's trunk, which has windows is lighter at the top than the bottom. The crown of the tree is the color of the Ukrainian flag: blue at the top, yellow at the bottom. It is shaped like a heart. The outer leaves are Ukrainain Soldiers holding shields with the Tryzub on them. Spikes are protruding from the Soldiers towars the Russian grotesques. The inside of the heart are Ukrainian civilians being protected by the Ukrainian Soldiers.

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Air raid alerts are up for all of central and eastern Ukraine and warnings have been issued for inbound Russian missiles.

President Zelenskyy issued a statement on peace for Ukraine today. There is no video, here is the transcript:

Statement on Peace for Ukraine

21 October 2025 – 12:46

Statement by President Zelenskyy, Prime Minister Starmer, Chancellor Merz, President Macron, Prime Minister Meloni, Prime Minister Tusk, President von der Leyen, President Costa, Prime Minister Støre, President Stubb, Prime Minister Frederiksen, Prime Minister Sánchez and Prime Minister Kristersson on Peace for Ukraine.

We are all united in our desire for a just and lasting peace, deserved by the people of Ukraine.

We strongly support President Trump’s position that the fighting should stop immediately, and that the current line of contact should be the starting point of negotiations. We remain committed to the principle that international borders must not be changed by force.

Russia’s stalling tactics have shown time and time again that Ukraine is the only party serious about peace. We can all see that Putin continues to choose violence and destruction.

Therefore we are clear that Ukraine must be in the strongest possible position – before, during, and after any ceasefire. We must ramp up the pressure on Russia’s economy and its defence industry, until Putin is ready to make peace. We are developing measures to use the full value of Russia’s immobilised sovereign assets so that Ukraine has the resources it needs.

Leaders will meet later this week in the European Council and in the Coalition of the Willing format to discuss how to take this work forward and to further support Ukraine.

Here is his daily address. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

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The Frontline Can Spark Diplomacy – Address by the President

21 October 2025 – 19:10

Dear Ukrainians!

We have now already finalized preparations for our upcoming meetings with European partners – important events planned later this week. First, there will be a strong and, in many ways, completely new agreement on our defense capabilities – an agreement we will implement essentially as part of long-term security guarantees for our state and all our people. It’s still too early to share the details – everything will unfold over the week. Second, we are fully aligned with our partners on diplomacy, and I am grateful to everyone for their support and principled positions – to all countries, to all leaders. Ukraine has once again expressed its readiness – readiness to end the war. We held a meeting with the President of the United States, and we agreed to try to organize the dialogue exactly like that – along the current front line. That was precisely the signal President Trump conveyed to his team. It was also made public. The frontline can spark diplomacy. Instead, Russia continues to do everything to weasel out of diplomacy – and as soon as the issue of long-range capabilities for us – for Ukraine – became less immediate, Russia’s interest in diplomacy faded almost automatically. This signals that this very issue – the issue of our deep strike capabilities – may hold the indispensable key to peace. The greater Ukraine’s long-range reach, the greater Russia’s willingness to end the war. These weeks reaffirmed it. The discussion on Tomahawks turned out to be a major investment in diplomacy – we forced Russia to reveal that Tomahawks are precisely the card they take seriously. We will continue engaging with Europeans and Americans on long-range capabilities. Air defense is, of course, the top priority.

Today, the NSDC Secretary Umerov and Minister of Foreign Affairs Sybiha presented their reports. We went over in detail what needs to be worked out with each partner right now to secure the necessary air defense systems and missiles for them. Preparation is also underway for a contract with the United States for a sufficient number of Patriot systems for us – both in the near term and over the longer period. I have instructed that this direction be intensified.

Of course, today, from early morning, numerous reports were delivered regarding recovery efforts in regions after Russian attacks on our energy infrastructure. The situation is particularly difficult in the Chernihiv, Sumy, and Kharkiv regions, and in frontline communities. The Russians are carrying out a methodical campaign of terror, the largest one in the world, targeting our energy infrastructure and our very life. I am grateful to everyone around the globe who is helping us and who is not remaining silent about what is happening.

I have just discussed our energy needs and what is required for recovery with the Prime Minister of Spain, Pedro Sánchez. I am thankful for his readiness to assist. We agreed on a meeting and on new steps to support our state, support Ukrainians, and our shared security in Europe. I thank you once again, Prime Minister, for the energy package. Other meetings and negotiations will follow. We will insist that Russia must not feel even a fraction of impunity. The 19th sanctions package is essential. Sufficient support for our defense is essential. A principled decision regarding Russian assets is also essential – using Russia’s own assets to protect against Russia. We are counting on results.

Glory to Ukraine!

Georgia:

Another flag that is always present at the daily #GeorgiaProtests. #NATO

Day 328 of uninterrupted protests in 8+ cities. Rustaveli Avenue is still blocked despite mass arrests.

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— Rusudan Djakeli (@rusudandjakeli.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 1:38 PM

Rustaveli Avenue now, after several days of mass arrests, threats, and disappointments.

Georgians are not giving up.

Day 328 of uninterrupted protests.

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— Rusudan Djakeli (@rusudandjakeli.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 1:41 PM

On the 328th day of continuous #GeorgiaProtests, demonstrators once again blocked Rustaveli Ave.

Under the new repressive laws by GD“illegal” road crossing can mean up to 15 days’ detention. Repeat offenses up to 1 year in prison. Dozens have been detained.

Still, protesters persist.

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— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 1:23 PM

#GeorgiaProtests
Day 328

📷 Aleksandre Keshelashvili

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— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 2:48 PM

Giga Lemonjava, the Executive Secretary of Droa party and the de facto party leader since the imprisonment of Elene Khoshtaria, demonstratively went first today to close Rustaveli — after dozens had been detained for this “offense.”

#TerrorinGeorgia #GeorgiaProtests

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 3:18 PM

As Georgian police stopped protesters for wearing masks, activist Tamuna Kirtava—wearing one herself—walked up to them:
“Confiscate my mask too! Or do you already know who to detain?”

Defiance and solidarity are what got us through a year of repressions.

🎥 Sofo Uridia

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— Rusudan Djakeli (@rusudandjakeli.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 9:26 AM

Once again, Georgian police wait near Rustaveli to stop and search protesters.

This time, they stopped people near Freedom Metro who said they were returning from a K-pop concert and had no link to the protest. One woman said she wore a medical mask because she had no teeth.

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— Rusudan Djakeli (@rusudandjakeli.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 2:56 PM

Had she had all her teeth, she’d be in jail now.

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 6:55 PM

10 days in jail for 22-year-old Tsira — for standing on the road for 25 seconds, just 40 cm off the sidewalk.

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— Rusudan Djakeli (@rusudandjakeli.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 1:10 PM

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 3:43 PM

A sixth journalist, Tsira Zhvania, working on TV Formula’s social media, was just arrested.

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— Rusudan Djakeli (@rusudandjakeli.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 9:25 AM

🟥14 Arrested in Past Two Days; One Detainee Sent for Compulsory Treatment at Mental Health and Drug Prevention Center – MIA reports

batumelebi.netgazeti.ge/articles-in-…
#GeorgiaProtests
#RepressionInGeorgia

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— Batumelebi&Netgazeti (@netgazeti.org) October 21, 2025 at 11:41 AM

Georgian activist Lado Berozashvili was secretly arrested today. He was denied the right to call his lawyer or family. Other activists accidentally found him sitting alone in a courtroom, waiting for the judge, and rushed to help. For now, his hearing has been postponed.

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— Rusudan Djakeli (@rusudandjakeli.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 3:58 PM

Georgia now refines Russian oil.

Another proof that the Russian takeover of Georgia must be addressed simultaneously with assisting Ukraine, not after. It’s too urgent to wait — and it’s not even costly to pressure the Georgian Dream.

www.reuters.com/business/ene…

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 9:11 AM

1/ The Georgian Revenue Service has confirmed that the KAYSERI tanker has arrived at the port of Kulevi from Russia.

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— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 3:41 PM

2/ According to the RS, the vessel was loaded with up to 100,000 tons of crude oil, shipped from a Russian company and intended for customs import procedures.

— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 3:41 PM

3/ Innitially Reuters reported that the Russian oil company Rosneft has delivered the first batch of oil to the Kulevi refinery in Georgia. Rosneft was sanctioned by the United Kingdom on October 15.

— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 3:41 PM

4/ The Revenue Service did not specify which company’s oil was on board, stating that it was “refraining from disseminating information containing tax secrets.”

— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 3:41 PM

5/ However, the RS noted that “international sanctions do not apply to the ship or the company owning the ship, as well as to the companies sending and receiving the cargo.”

— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 3:41 PM

This is a great initiative.

There will be a time soon when everyone will claim to have protested this regime every single day.

Thankfully, unlike the liberation struggle of the 1980s and 1990s, photographs and social media now keep the truth documented.

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 6:01 AM

Hungary:

Hungary’s oil refinery in Százhalombatta, 27 kilometres from Budapest was on fire tonight.

This refinery processes oil from Russia. According to Hungarian news outlets, the entire facility may temporarily shut down after the fire.

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 9:47 AM

Romania:

An explosion also occurred at Romania’s Petrotel-Lukoil refinery, which is owned by the Russian company Lukoil. The refinery’s annual capacity is 2.5 million tons, making it one of the largest in Romania.
www.digi24.ro/stiri/actual…

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 9:17 AM

The US:

Trump on Russia’s war on Ukraine: “It doesn’t really affect us.”

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— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) October 21, 2025 at 5:08 PM

Preparations for the Trump-Putin meeting in Budapest have been temporarily suspended.

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 11:49 AM

/2. It appears that preparations for the meeting between Rubio and Lavrov have also been suspended.

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 12:00 PM

Sheesh. The Netherlands has curtailed intelligence co-operation with the US over fears the Trump administration could use it to violate human rights or assist Russia.
www.ft.com/content/af80…

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— Christopher Miller (@christopherjm.ft.com) October 21, 2025 at 7:16 AM

From The Financial Times:

The Netherlands has curtailed intelligence co-operation with the US over fears the Trump administration could use it to violate human rights or assist Russia.

The heads of civilian and military intelligence said in a joint interview with Dutch newspaper de Volkskrant published over the weekend that they had become more cautious in what they share given the “politicisation of our intelligence”.

It is the frankest admission yet by a foreign spy agency about the consequences of US President Donald Trump’s interference in intelligence matters.

Erik Akerboom, director-general of the AIVD, the Dutch domestic service and Peter Reesink, director of military intelligence (MIVD), said they regretted that Trump had fired the head of the National Security Agency, Timothy Haugh, in April.

“I can’t comment on how that relationship is now compared to before. But it’s true that we make that decision and sometimes don’t share things anymore,” Reesink said.

They indicated that the sharing restrictions applied to intelligence about Russia. Trump’s stance on his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin has shifted several times this year — most recently on Friday when the US leader pressured Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelenskyy to agree to Moscow’s terms on how to end the war.

When asked how the agencies acted when it was “uncertain” how intelligence about Russia would be used, Reesink replied: “That will be weighed.”

Akerboom added: “Sometimes you have to think on a case-by-case basis: can I still share this information or not?”

Asked if the Trump administration’s overhaul of federal services, including the NSA and the CIA, had an impact on what the Dutch agencies were willing to share with their US counterparts, Akerboom replied: “We don’t judge what we see politically, but we look at our experiences with the services. And we are very alert to the politicisation of our intelligence and the violation of human rights.”

However, Reesink stressed that “relations are good” following a visit to the NSA and CIA a few months ago. “Relations are good and will remain so. That does not alter the fact that we regularly evaluate that co-operation.”

The Netherlands has been one of the US’s staunchest allies and intelligence partners for decades. Dutch spies helped sabotage Iran’s nuclear programme, including by using an Iranian engineer to plant the Stuxnet computer virus into its systems in 2010.

Bart Groothuis, a former head of cyber security at the Dutch defence ministry who is now an MEP, said the two countries had long worked together to take on autocrats.

The US would suffer if it alienated allies by acting in a similar manner.

“It illustrates that many hard power co-operation is based on soft power trust and values. You can’t have one without the other.”

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Back to Ukraine.

Two Russian light aircraft modified to intercept drones were destroyed by the Security Service of Ukraine.

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 11:27 AM

“In just 3–6 months, Russian FPV drones will be able to cover 100 km, reaching major cities from remote launch sites, including from Belarus.” – Ihor Raikov, head of the unmanned systems service of the 13th National Guard brigade “Khartia.”

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 7:14 AM

Russians have published the first photos of the FAB-500T aerial bomb equipped with an upgraded Universal Planning and Correction Module. The new version features an extended tail section and enlarged wings, which improve its aerodynamic performance.

According to claims, this updated kit

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 6:54 AM

increases the bomb’s glide range to over 100 km. A similar design can also be fitted with a turbojet engine, extending its flight range to approximately 200 km

Russia invents new tools of terrorism and ways to murder Ukrainians.

— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 6:54 AM

Kostiantynivka:

Surviving near the frontline in Kostiantynivka.

📷libkos

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— Iryna Voichuk (@irynavoichuk.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 5:24 PM

This is what life looks like in front-line Kostiantynivka today.

People cook on open fires, heat their apartments with stoves, and bury their neighbors near apartment blocks.

Only about 6,000 civilians remain — just 6 km from the front line.

Via Donbas Realii journalist Serhii Horbatenko

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— Iryna Voichuk (@irynavoichuk.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 7:35 AM

Sumy Oblast:

In Sumy, a russian drone hit a city road, injuring nine civilians.

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— Iryna Voichuk (@irynavoichuk.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 11:42 AM

Sumy, Ukraine. The moment of the “Italmas” UAV strike: the drone flew right past the operator.

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 4:10 PM

In the Sumy region, Russian occupiers exposed a howitzer position, and during a day of defense, soldiers of the 225th Assault Regiment shot down 30 drones.
t.me/c/1718690155…

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 8:57 AM

Chernihiv Oblast:

Russia continues to terrorize Chernihiv and the region, where energy infrastructure lies in ruins and electricity is gone.

Today in Novhorod-Siverskyi, four civilians were killed and ten injured — including a child — as russia launched more than 20 attacks with drones and MLRS.

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— Iryna Voichuk (@irynavoichuk.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 11:02 AM

Novhorod-Siverskyi in Chernihiv region was under Russian drone attack. 4 killed, 10 injured, including a child

A residential building caught fire, and another strike landed near a medical facility.

Reports confirm 4 dead and 10 wounded, among them, a 10-year-old child.

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 1:29 PM

Chernihiv is experiencing a complete blackout following relentless Russian attacks on the region’s energy infrastructure.

Ongoing bombardments are preventing specialists from attempting repairs.

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 5:26 AM

Kharkiv:

Video of Russian glide bomb strikes on Kharkiv overnight. October 21, 2025.

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 10:44 AM

Last night, Russia struck Kharkiv with six glide bombs, targeting a residential area. Eight people were injured, one house was completely destroyed, and twelve others were damaged.

Russian terrorism continues daily.

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 5:20 AM

Kherson Oblast:

A grandmother and her goats were slaughtered by the Russian’s today. I’m not posting the pictures or videos. You do not need to go looking for them.

Pokrovsk, Donetsk Oblast:

The Russians also continued to attack civilian vehicles in Pokrovsk. They did not stop the attack until they killed the passengers of the vehicles. Here too I’m not posting the pictures or videos and you do not need to go looking for them.

Two photos of today haunt me: a civilian lying dead beside his car in the Donetsk region, and an elderly woman in Kherson next to her goats. Both killed — hunted — by russian drones. Both murders were deliberate.

Those who support russia share the guilt and the blood on their hands.

— Olena Halushka (@halushka.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 1:27 PM

Russian occupied Crimea:

Oil depot in occupied Hvardiyske is on fire again 🔥

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 7:07 AM

Kyiv:

Air alert in Kyiv, warning of threat of ballistic missiles, reports of launches and fast incoming targets, then the sound of explosions in the Ukrainian capital – all in the space of six minutes. Explosions also reported in Zaporizhzhya and Dnipro.

No, Putin doesn’t want peace.

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— Euan MacDonald (@euanmacdonald.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 6:18 PM

Kyiv is under a repeated ballistic missile attack, the likely target is our power grid.

— Olena Halushka (@halushka.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 7:03 PM

The missiles that just attacked Kyiv were launched from Iskander ballistic missile launchers in the area of the settlement of Klintsy, Bryansk Oblast, in fascist Russia, monitors on Telegram say.

— Euan MacDonald (@euanmacdonald.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 6:24 PM

Fire in Kyiv after explosions, and reports of hit on energy infrastructure in south of city.

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— Euan MacDonald (@euanmacdonald.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 6:29 PM

Another explosion just now in Kyiv – another incoming missile was reported. Again, hardly any time to react.

And another couple of booms as I write…

— Euan MacDonald (@euanmacdonald.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 6:44 PM

The Zaporizhzhia front:

Countering the massive Russian attack on the Zaporizhzhia front

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 3:21 AM

Moscow, Russia:

Maria Lvova-Belova, Russia’s Commissioner for Children’s Rights—wanted by The Hague for the illegal deportation of Ukrainian children—gave an interview admitting she kidnapped and adopted a boy from Mariupol after Russian forces took the city.

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 10:18 AM

She acknowledged Filipp was Ukrainian, loved his country, and didn’t want to go to Russia. She broke him, re-educated him, and made him Russian.

While Moscow denies forcibly removing children, one of Putin’s own officials has publicly confirmed that’s exactly what Russia is doing.

— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 10:18 AM

Bryansk Oblast, Russia:

Missile and drone strikes on Russia is underway. So far, this was reported:

– UAVs targeted a power substation in Bryansk region;
– Allegedly, a Storm Shadow missiles struck the Bryansk Chemical Plant, which had been serving Russia’s military-industrial complex;

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 4:26 PM

Large Ukrainian attack on fascist Russia’s Bryansk Oblast going on – Ukrainian Telegram says multiple types of missiles and drones being used. Map from @DrnBmbr.

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— Euan MacDonald (@euanmacdonald.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 11:07 AM

⚡️/1. The General Staff of Ukraine: On 21 October 2025, the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in coordination with the Land Forces, the Navy, and other units of the Defence Forces of Ukraine, struck the Bryansk Chemical Plant.

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 3:51 PM

/2. A massive combined missile and air strike was carried out, including the use of air-launched Storm Shadow missiles, which successfully penetrated the Russian air defence system.

The outcome of the strike is being assessed.

— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 3:51 PM

/3. The Bryansk Chemical Plant is a key facility of the aggressor state’s military-industrial complex. The plant produces gunpowder, explosives, and rocket fuel components used in ammunition and missiles employed by the enemy to shell the territory of Ukraine.

— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 3:51 PM

“The plant is either screwed or very close to it.” – a Russian insider channel.

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 4:14 PM

Smolensk Oblast, Russia:

– A thermal power plant in Smolensk region is on fire.

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 4:26 PM

Russian Thermal Power Plant in Smolensk is on fire.

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 3:23 PM

Rostov Oblast, Russia:

Drone attack on Bataysk, Rostov Oblast, fascist Russia. 10 blasts heard in city, air defense active, debris fell on residential area, air defense missile may have hit apartment block. Video shows damage, voice says, “Guys, the Kremlin’s not here… you got the coordinates wrong.”

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— Euan MacDonald (@euanmacdonald.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 12:53 AM

Leningrad Oblast, Russia:

An explosion occurred on the Pskov–Saint Petersburg railway, which is used for the Russian army’s military logistics.
Railway traffic has been halted, which will affect the supply of Russian troops.
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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 4:32 PM

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War for Ukraine Day 1,335: President Zelenskyy’s Statement on Peace for UkrainePost + Comments (24)

Open Thread: Russell Vought Is A Very Bad Man (But Not A Cartoon Supervillain)

by Anne Laurie|  October 21, 20257:36 pm| 96 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Open Threads, Republican Venality, Trump Crime Cartel

Is this…real? It’s not some weird AI video? Who is Trump calling “Darth Vader” as a way to praise them and invite applause from the audience?

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— Alex (@purplechrain.bsky.social) October 21, 2025 at 4:23 PM

it's real. he's talking about Russ Vought

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) October 21, 2025 at 4:25 PM

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You should also know he's an idiot and mostly failing miserably.

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— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 20, 2025 at 11:13 AM

Seems to me like Mr. Vought is (once again?) being set up as first scapegoat to be thrown from the White House troika as everything goes pear-shaped… Per Andy Kroll ProPublica, “What You Should Know About Russ Vought, Trump’s Shadow President”:

On the second day of the federal government shutdown, President Donald Trump shared an AI-generated video set to the classic song “(Don’t Fear) The Reaper” by Blue Öyster Cult. The star of that video, which quickly went viral, was Russell Vought, the president’s top budget adviser. More than that, Vought is the architect of Trump’s broader plan to fire civil servants, freeze government programs and dismantle entire agencies, and he’s a big reason the second Trump administration has been more effective at accomplishing its goals than the first. In the video shared by Trump, Vought appeared as the scythe-wielding Grim Reaper of Washington, D.C.

Vought’s title is director of the Office of Management and Budget. The OMB directorship is one of the most powerful jobs in Washington, and Vought has used his position to wage a quiet war to change the shape of the entire U.S. government. In Vought’s hands, OMB has acted as a choke point for the funding that Congress approves and agencies rely on to run the government. While he tends to operate behind the scenes as much as possible, his influence in Trump’s second administration is so pronounced that people have described him as akin to a shadow president.

Here are some of the key things you should know about Vought. Read ProPublica’s full investigation here. (Vought declined to be interviewed for the article. A spokesperson for him at OMB would not comment on the record in response to a detailed list of questions.)

1. Vought went from the mail room to becoming the chief antagonist of his own party.
A native of Trumbull, Connecticut, and the son of an electrician father and a mother who spent decades in public education before helping to launch a Christian school, Vought got his first job in D.C. politics working in the mail room for Republican Sen. Phil Gramm of Texas, a fierce budget hawk known for criticizing members of his own party for breaking what he viewed as core conservative principles…

In 2010, he quit Congress and helped launch an offshoot of the Heritage Foundation think tank called Heritage Action for America, which was tasked with strong-arming congressional Republicans to act more conservatively…

2. OMB’s massive power supercharges Vought’s influence.
While the Office of Management and Budget is part of the White House, Vought is a member of Trump’s cabinet along with the secretary of defense and attorney general. OMB director has little of the cachet of those jobs, but it plays a vital role. Every penny appropriated by Congress first passes through the OMB. It also reviews all significant regulations proposed by federal agencies, vets executive orders before the president signs them and issues workplace policies for more than 2 million federal employees…

3. Vought’s early work at OMB helped lead to Trump’s first impeachment.
… In 2019, after the Trump White House pressured Ukraine’s government to investigate then-candidate Joe Biden and his son Hunter, it asked Vought, then acting director, to freeze $214 million in congressionally approved security assistance for Ukraine. He obliged.

This impoundment, later deemed illegal by the Government Accountability Office, would trigger congressional investigations and, ultimately, Trump’s first impeachment. During that process, Vought refused to cooperate with investigators, calling the probe a “sham process that is designed to relitigate the last election.” …

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7. Elon Musk and DOGE often acted at Vought’s direction, insiders say.
Elon Musk, Tesla’s CEO and the world’s wealthiest person, may have grabbed the headlines as his Department of Government Efficiency took a chainsaw to budgets and staffing. But court records, interviews and other accounts from people close to Vought show that DOGE’s efforts were guided, more than previously known, by the OMB director.

“I can’t imagine that the DOGE team knew to target all these little parts of the government without Russ pointing them there,” a former OMB branch chief told ProPublica…

8. Vought has used OMB to try to pressure Democrats into reaching a deal with Republicans to end the shutdown.
Vought has frozen $26 billion in federal funding for infrastructure and clean energy projects in blue states in the days after the federal government shut down on Oct. 1. The government has also followed through on Vought’s earlier threat to fire a massive number of civil servants if the shutdown were not averted.

“We work for the president of the United States,” a senior agency official who regularly deals with the OMB told ProPublica. But right now, he added, “it feels like we work for Russ Vought. He has centralized decision-making power to an extent that he is the commander in chief.”

Media: Russ Vought is a dark master of the bureaucracy, uncannily skilled at maneuvering pieces on the board to rule with an iron fist. Here is a picture of him in dark lighting so you know how ~*serious*~ this is.

— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 20, 2025 at 11:15 AM

Reality: Russ Vought accidently coded some firings at CDC wrong and had to bring back more than half of them, taking his grand total of "mass firings during the shutdown" to a whopping 3k or so.
Also they nearly broke the mortgage market and had to bring those people back too.

— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 20, 2025 at 11:15 AM

Reality, coda: Russ Vought continues to be stymied in his goal to dismantle the CFPB because the organization handles this piece of data that's a load bearing pillar to the American mortgage market and they can't get rid of it without blowing up American real estate.

— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 20, 2025 at 11:18 AM

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Stuff that gets leaked by an administration that wants to get rid of an inconvenient minion:

So, per reporting from Zeteo’s Asawin Suebsaeng, in today’s new ‘First Draft’ newsletter, Trump tried to get a newly-divorced Russ Vought, Project 2025 architect & now budget chief, laid at Mar-a-Lago.
The details are, ahem, as crude as you’d expect from Trump.
zeteo.com/p/trump-shit…

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— Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan.bsky.social) October 20, 2025 at 2:03 PM

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No Kings – Compilation 3!

by WaterGirl|  October 21, 20256:34 pm| 40 Comments

This post is in: No Kings Oct 18, 2025, Open Threads

Finally getting back to the No Kings submitted by email!

HarryBee

Best photos from my daughter up in Ithaca, NY No Kings 2 on 10/18/25.


comrade scott

Another No Kings piece if you’re interested:

There were an estimated 25K downtown, that’s 5K more than the June rally.  It felt like it as I and others around me observed.  I was standing where that red dot is.

According to local reports, there were another 12-15K demonstrators in Colorado Springs, which gives on an idea of how that formerly very wingnutty part of the state has somewhat changed politically and how pissed off people are.

Sure Lurkalot documented one of what turned out to be a ton of small, “pop up” events throughout the metro region plus ones that were on the No Kings map.  One in particular struck me in Littleton along South Santa Fe drive.  Lots of cars but not exactly a convenient spot for a rally.  They estimated around 2K just there.

We went to friends up in what is now a northern exurb, Erie, later in the evening, joined by two other couples, one from a south burb (they wouldn’t attend a protest if their lives depended on it) and one from a burb in between us and Boulder.  At the latter, they had a rally of another 2K or so.  Then they went to one in Erie along with the people hosting last night who live there.  The ones in Erie aren’t politically active but went to their first rally/protest because of this.  That’s saying something.

I’m still kicking myself I didn’t get a photo of the Elvis impersonator (late Elvis of course) carrying a sign “The only king is Elvis” although I’m told a local media outlet got one but hell if I can find it.


ScampDog

Here are a couple of photos that I took yesterday at the No Kings rally near me in Thornton, the northern Denver suburb where I live. The venue was a pedestrian overpass crossing I-25. My not-necessarily accurate estimate that there were about 400-500 people there, with easily over 100 on the pedestrian bridge itself, with even more of us along the highway.

The vibe in the crowd was 100% positive, and the drivers on the highway almost uniformly supportive. I saw one thumbs down gesture and two or three people flipping us off, out of what seemed like 60 cars a minute coming by. A lot of big rig drivers honked in support, and I had half figured most of them to be MAGAts, so I went home feeling a lot better about the situation in the US now.

Oh yeah, and it was my birthday, so it was a great way to celebrate part of my day!


bbleh


RevRick


cckids

These are from Everett, WA-I did not have the time/energy to get into Seattle for the big time rally, but ours was quite good. Uplifting, very crowded and enthusiastic.

We had one Hispanic-looking guy in his battered pickup truck, yelling “I voted for Trump!” to general derision. I couldn’t resist yelling back “You know, they’ll come for you too!” Again “I voted for Trump!” whereupon I yelled “You think they CARE?!” Just a delusional twatwaffle. My spouse was desperately trying to get me to shut up.

Aside from him, though, it was a super day-a bit rainy, but nobody seemed to care. So happy to see everyone’s pics!!


 

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