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Some judge needs to shut this circus down soon.

Celebrate the fucking wins.

Nothing says ‘pro-life’ like letting children go hungry.

We will not go quietly into the night; we will not vanish without a fight.

I like political parties that aren’t owned by foreign adversaries.

Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.

Weird. Rome has an American Pope and America has a Russian President.

Jack be nimble, jack be quick, hurry up and indict this prick.

“What are Republicans afraid of?” Everything.

I desperately hope that, yet again, i am wrong.

Impressively dumb. Congratulations.

I’d hate to be the candidate who lost to this guy.

Boeing: repeatedly making the case for high speed rail.

There are a lot more evil idiots than evil geniuses.

Peak wingnut was a lie.

Not so fun when the rabbit gets the gun, is it?

Thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege.

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She is an Angel in a Polyester Uniform

by @heymistermix.com|  August 16, 20246:26 pm| 180 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

One of the fun things about the last couple of weeks is the absolute inability of the biggest shit talking mudslingers in politics to lay a hand on either Harris or Walz. Let’s start with Harris — do they have anything but the “is she really black?” racist nonsense? If they do, I haven’t seen it.

Also, she’s authentically middle class, and we know that because she worked at McDonald’s when she was young. Every middle-class kid of her generation can relate to a shitty high school fast food job (I certainly can). If you want to be humbled, do that job for a few days. (It’s also a good way to keep yourself from uttering the stupidest sentence that people who haven’t done a restaurant job will speak: “Wouldn’t it be great to open a restaurant?” No, it really wouldn’t. It’s hard, demanding work, and most restaurants fail in the first year.)

As for Walz, again, nonsense on stilts is all that we’ve heard. Let’s take this taco crisis. Here’s their massive gotcha: even though Walz said that black pepper is about as spicy as it gets for Minnesotans, and he mentioned making “white guy tacos,” Walz posted a taco recipe that actually had some spice.

First, tell me you’ve never been to rural Minnesota, South Dakota, North Dakota or Nebraska, without saying it. The native cuisine there is absolutely bland. Cream of mushroom features prominently in every hot dish. You’ll never walk into a regular restaurant and get anything that’s the least bit spicy. (Of course, nowadays there are Mexican restaurants everywhere, since Mexican laborers are indispensable to the ag economy, even though the Trump-voting rural folks are living in denial about that.)

Second, Here’s the recipe. It features ground turkey because Minnesota is the #1 turkey producer in the nation, and Walz is pushing that. And, yes, it calls for a jar of medium taco sauce, a can of diced chiles (mild) and an unspecified amount of chili powder. But it also calls for a pound of turkey, 16 oz of sour cream and a bag of tater tots. You could dump a quarter cup of chili powder into that mess and barely taste it. This is the epitome of a dish that a rural Minnesotan would say “has a little kick” and everyone else would say is quite bland. And, trust me, they’d put an infinitesimal amount of chili powder in it.

In closing, watching these Trumpist fuckers sputter has been just 100% entertainment, no notes. They’re careening between “let’s talk about the issues” whenever they’re called weird, and “you’re the real weirdos” whenever Project 2025 is mentioned. It’s been a great ride and I don’t see an end to it anytime soon.

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Foreign Affairs Open Thread: Putin on the Fritz

by Anne Laurie|  August 16, 20244:55 pm| 69 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Open Threads, Russia

Putin - STOCKPILE

(Walt Handelsman via GoComics.com)

 

Putin is days away from saying that he’s going to build a wall and make Ukraine pay for it. https://t.co/SLH3PMcv1i

— Hal Sparks (@HalSparks) August 13, 2024

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— Andrew (@sranysovok) August 15, 2024

What Ukraine’s Kursk Incursion Means for the Long War – Puck https://t.co/W7pr3hkukL

— Michael Huggins (@MichaelHugg2591) August 15, 2024

But seriously… Russian immigrant Julia Ioffe, at Puck this Tuesday, on “Ukraine’s Guns of August“:

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… The blitz recalled Yevgeny Prigozhin’s “March of Fairness” in June 2023, when his mercenary Wagner troops took over Rostov, the southern Russian city from which much of the war against Ukraine was being run, and made it halfway to Moscow without Russian government troops putting up much of a fight. (Prigozhin, you’ll remember, conveniently died in a plane crash last August, most likely after a bomb exploded on board.) So it was shocking to see, this time around, how little the Kremlin and the Ministry of Defense seem to have learned from that caper, and how much arrogance seems to underlie some of the decisions to fortify—or not fortify—the Russia-Ukraine border.

A week later, the situation is still very much in flux, with neither the Russian or Ukrainian sides saying too much about it. (What they have said, though, is fairly predictable: glee from the latter and fury from the former.) Ukrainian forces now control somewhere shy of 300 square miles of Russian territory. But from everything I’ve read and heard, no one seems to know what the plan is—or if a plan even exists. On some level, it seems that this is a new chapter in the same book we’ve been reading since February 2022: the Ukrainian military, ever the underdog, does something daring that surprises and dazzles the West and looks amazing on social media; the Russian military is caught off guard and unprepared, which leads to an embarrassing loss; but the law of large numbers gradually catches up, Russia learns from its mistakes, adjusts, and begins to overwhelm Ukraine once again through sheer numerical advantage.

Are we seeing the same thing play out in Kursk? Or is this time different? Will it help Ukraine change the trajectory of the war, or even the narrative? I called my friend Michael Kofman, a military analyst with the Carnegie Endowment (who also happens to have been born in Kyiv), to find out. Our conversation, which I hope you enjoy, has been edited for length and clarity…

What do you think were the objectives of the push into Kursk?
My own sense of it is that Ukraine likely hopes to raise its troops’ morale and to change both internal and external perceptions of the war by conducting a daring and bold offensive of this kind into Russia. At the very least, it would help change the narrative—and it clearly has, at least for a few weeks—of what has so far been an overall negative trajectory for the war over the past year.

I suspect the actual objective of this operation is to hold some amount of territory in Kherson and hope to trade that for territory Russia is currently occupying—for example, the buffer zone they’ve taken in Kharkiv. Or alternatively, at the bare minimum, to entrench and use this buffer in order to pull in Russian forces from Kharkiv and other parts of the front inside Ukraine. Russian political leadership is clearly going to be furious over the prospect of a prolonged occupation of Russian territory, which ideally will divert some significant percentage of the Russian forces currently pressing the Ukrainian military along the front in Donetsk. The idea here, I think, is to create perhaps a larger but more successful version of the battle in Krynky—when Ukrainian forces crossed the river and held this lodgment for quite a long time in Kherson—a forced, attritional battle…

A lot of Ukraine's success here derives from a Potemkin normalcy Putin has cultivated since the war's start. No defense in depth fortifications even in border areas. Everything is fine. NATO will surrender soon. Go shopping.

Wagner should have been the wake up call. And yet… https://t.co/shSVuqLNJq

— zeddy (@Zeddary) August 14, 2024

Putin on the Fritz - STOCKPILE

(Jeff Danziger via GoComics.com)

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What Does it Mean to Fight?

by @heymistermix.com|  August 16, 20241:24 pm| 274 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

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KamalaHQ is hammering Trump’s Medal of Honor comments yesterday at his New Jersey ex-wife burial ground and golf club, so I assume the Harris campaign thinks those remarks are pretty damaging.  Trump’s comments also clearly show that attacks on Walz’ military record have zero credibility from the Republican ticket, but I don’t think they were gaining much traction anyway, since they seem to have been replaced by false anguish over Kamala making fun of Walz’ white guy tacos.  (Again proving that the sensitivity of the white male to even the slightest of slights can never be overstated.)

Kamala’s comms team is very good, but Harris and Walz are also experiencing a moment where their excitement is feeding the public’s excitement, and the public excitement is feeding back into their excitement and energy.  This is where every campaign wants to be, a sweet spot where their momentum seems like it will never end.

Of course, this is rare:  a campaign can be doing everything right, yet they’re faced with an uninterested public.  Or, the campaign might have a message that would interest the public, but perhaps the candidate can’t deliver it for a number of reasons like age, poor retail political skills, etc.  That’s what I thought about when I saw this (from a Fake LBJ account that is written by some history profs at some university in Texas):

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I haven’t been paying close attention to Allred’s campaign, but let’s assume that fake LBJ is right:  Cruz is weaker than ever, and the Allred campaign is following a pretty worn out playbook.  The cause isn’t just money — they’ve raised $37 million to Cruz’ $57 million, and even though the concept of “enough” in political fundraising is hard to gauge, $37 mil is enough to run a decent campaign anywhere.  So if it isn’t money, is it candidate? Is it an unreceptive public?  Is it that Democrats often run very conservative campaigns in general?  I mean, whatever you want to say about Beto, the guy knew how to fight.

I’m wondering about this because the Harris campaign is doing something special and rare.  If Democrats are going to win in Texas, or Florida, or some of the other reddish-purple states that always seem to elude our grasp, we need to be able to replicate some of what’s led to this moment for the Harris/Walz campaign.

(Also, as usual, if there are Texans or people who know Texas politics reading this, tell me what I’ve missed about Allredl)

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UPDATE: Kamala Harris Live: Raleigh, NC Rally and Economic Proposals

by TaMara|  August 16, 202412:21 pm| 56 Comments

This post is in: 2024 Activism, Elections 2024, Kamala Harris for President, Open Threads, Politics

UPDATE: See I go for a walk and they change the times on me. It looks like the Harris video time was incorrect. So the PBS  feed is probably of the rally, too. Which is fun, btw, because, unlike the Harris feed, they show all the opening speakers and we get to hear the DJ

Hey, let me know if you guys want more of these. Watergirl and I’ve been talking about how best to keep posting these. I’m happy to do it when I’m around and I know she’s keeping an eye on events, too.

But if they’re of no interest or feel repetitive, no need to coordinate the posts.

This is scheduled to begin in 20 minutes.

 

PBS has the feed for her Economic speech later today (2:45 EDT, 11:45 PDT):

I’m off to walk the dogs, so hopefully this will go off without a hitch (bwhahahahaha)

Otherwise, totally open thread

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Populist Centrist What?

by @heymistermix.com|  August 16, 20249:54 am| 180 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

The Harris campaign has released their policy proposals [gift link]:

The most striking proposals were for the elimination of medical debt for millions of Americans; the “first-ever” ban on price gouging for groceries and food; a cap on prescription drug costs; a $25,000 subsidy for first-time home buyers; and a child tax credit that would provide $6,000 per child to families for the first year of a baby’s life.

[…] Perhaps Harris’s most surprising policy announcement was her plan to ban “price gouging” in grocery and food prices. While details were sparse, the measure would include authorizing the Federal Trade Commission to impose large fines on grocery stores that impose “excessive” price hikes on customers, her campaign said.

When I was visiting family in the Dakotas last month, there were no end to the complaints that the small grocers in our small town were gouging, and they were.  (Those complaining the loudest were, of course, the ones that were going to vote for Trump the hardest.)

…Harris endorsed a slew of measures to expand housing supply — including an expansion of tax credits to incentivize housing construction — but also a new $25,000 in federal down-payment assistance to more than 1 million first-time home buyers…

…Harris also pledged to work with states to cancel medical debt for millions of Americans, building on one of her signature policy issues as vice president. That effort could involve using federal funds to buy and forgive outstanding medical debt from health providers….

…Other policies endorsed by Harris in her five-page policy document included expanding the Earned Income Tax Credit for lower-wage workers by up to $1,500, as well as extending subsidies for Americans on the Affordable Care Act exchanges.

Anyway, this is all good stuff, and I’m looking forward to the whole list after Harris’ speech in North Carolina today.  But god damn are the brains of the people writing this story broken:

Vice President Kamala Harris on Friday unveiled an aggressively populist economic agenda, providing the most detailed vision yet of her governing priorities since becoming the Democratic Party’s presidential nominee…

In the weeks leading up to this announcement, at least two outside advisers privately suggested to the Harris campaign that she signal a move to the center by backing income tax cuts for middle-class households or a tax break for small businesses, according to the people aware of the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the private conversations…

“The days of pivoting to the center to win on economics are over, even though there are good economic reasons to do so, especially on fiscal policy,” said Bill Galston, a former Clinton policy aide.

Why are tax cuts for the middle-class “centrist” while caps on prescription drugs, elimination of medical debt, and tax credits for children “populist”?  Middle-class folks pay for prescription drugs, often have medical debt, and they do have children.  Middle-class 20-30 somethings can’t afford housing, and their parents really care about this issue.  A policy is not “populist” simply because a poor person could benefit from it.

How the hell is this framing adding anything to our comprehension of Harris’ economic policies?  The simple fact is that it isn’t, that broken DC brains think it matters whether some specific policy is “centrist” or not, and nobody else actually cares.

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Friday Morning Open Thread: FORWARD!

by Anne Laurie|  August 16, 20248:19 am| 183 Comments

This post is in: Elections 2024, Kamala Harris for President, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

#KamalaHarrisForward I believe VP Kamala Harris and her VP pick Tim Walz are our best chance to move forward. They are our best chance to push back on encroaching fascism and threats to democracy, and our best chance for creating the world we all desire and deserve. Politics is… pic.twitter.com/8tTuLfIbEw

— Shepard Fairey (@OBEYGIANT) August 15, 2024

In the background of the press v Kamala fracas is the fact that it was CW in DC since 2021 that Kamala was a mess and cldn't shoot straight. The same folks can't make sense of her success and she, one imagines, has no patience for their demands. https://t.co/JOD4Z2QVBv via @TPM

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) August 15, 2024


Josh Marshall at TPM — “Kamala, A Riddle Wrapped in a Mystery Inside an Enigma, Many People are Saying”:

… I actually got in a minor spat today with a reporter who I’d dinged for an article description which presented Harris as a sort mystery candidate verging on a Manchurian Candidate, with unknown views and barely detailed ambitions. Are we kidding with all of this?

On the one hand, journalists press for information, details, answers. That’s what they do. It’s their job. It’s part of their job to be annoying. They press for things that people aren’t going to volunteer. But there is something uncanny and vaguely absurd hearing this mix of complaints, demands and warnings of electoral disaster leveled at a campaign which is finishing up what has to be at least among, and quite possibly the, best single month of any presidential campaign in at least half a century. Campaign success isn’t what journalists are or should be concerned about. But it defies belief that Harris and her campaign would shift gears when what they’ve been doing is working this well…

The deeper story is that most campaign reporters simply don’t know what to make of Harris’ campaign and can’t figure out how it has managed, at least for the moment, to be so successful. That’s not a criticism: I think many of Harris’ supporters are equally mystified. But they’re just happy with the results. They don’t need an explanation. But for reporters the inexplicableness requires a storyline. And this is that storyline: the substanceless campaign, the lack of interviews, yada yada yada. As Kate noted in today’s pod: Biden started doing a bunch of interviews when his campaign started to tank. Trump’s been doing a spree of them because he’s floundering and he’s trying to regain attention. Candidate do these when they need to, not when reporters demand it…

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The final part of the story is rooted in official Washington’s view of Harris. To put it baldly, most elite DC journalists treated Harris with a kind of breezy disdain that could scarcely rise to the level of contempt. For the first year of her vice presidency there was an ongoing series of critical reports about issues in the Office of the Vice President, staff drama, mean bossism, general turmoil. I don’t know how much reality there was to those reports. But they set a dismal tone. You’ll remember that when Ezra Klein and others got together the calls for a Thunderdome convention, Klein referred delicately and painedly to “the Kamala Harris problem,” a problem so obvious that it scarcely required explanation: how to usher her out of the way for others from the vaunted Democratic bench.

I’m not trying to pick on Klein here. I’ve done enough of that. I note this simply because it was such a deep conventional wisdom that it hardly required explanation. Everyone in that world knew what he meant. That certainly figures into this, and in both directions. It is not only that there is this great appetite to find out just what it is Harris must be doing wrong. That backstory must have left Harris just utterly uninterested in what these folks have to say. They treated her as something between a punchline and a nonentity and now she’s the odds-on favorite, if only by a small margin, to be the next President. Why should she care?

NEWS: Kamala Harris proposes a major $6,000-per- child tax credit *for a newborn's first year of life* — a big baby boost — as part of 2024 agenda

Also calls for restoring rest of Biden CTC that died, which took credit from $2K to $3K for mosthttps://t.co/3UAHsdRTZz

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) August 16, 2024


Gift link (FWIW):

… Ahead of Harris’s speech in North Carolina, her campaign announced her support for more than a dozen economic policies aimed at “lowering costs for American families,” including some that went beyond what President Joe Biden had promised.

The most striking proposals were for the elimination of medical debt for millions of Americans; the “first-ever” ban on price gouging for groceries and food; a cap on prescription drug costs; a $25,000 subsidy for first-time home buyers; and a child tax credit that would provide $6,000 per child to families for the first year of a baby’s life…

The flurry of policy positions — just days before the Democratic National Convention in Chicago — represented the clearest articulation yet of how Harris, who has only had a relatively brief time on the national stage, would handle economic policy if elected this fall. Harris has thus far surrounded herself with many former aides to Biden, and her team had made some overtures to business leaders that they hoped reflected a more centrist approach. But the policy positions she embraced Friday suggest she will continue, if not deepen, the party’s transformation under Biden, who pushed for more aggressive government intervention in the economy on industrial, labor and antitrust policies…

 
I was gonna save this for the weekend, but that seems to be a jinx, so I’ll let y’all individually bookmark it for later:

I don’t care who you are — this conversation between Kamala Harris and Tim Walz is so relatable. They are us.#TheUnderdogCampaign pic.twitter.com/ftsdbgU2Yj

— Christopher Webb (@cwebbonline) August 15, 2024

Uh…the Hemmings family may dispute the claim that it was Jefferson growing those chiles. https://t.co/0N8W8bCXP4

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) August 15, 2024

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Late Night Open Thread: Norman Desmond, in Sundowning Boulevard

by Anne Laurie|  August 16, 20244:26 am| 142 Comments

This post is in: Elections 2024, Open Threads, Republicans in Disarray!, Trump Crime Cartel, Schadenfreude

Republican donors and Donald Trump campaign officials are struggling to understand why the former president seems to be sabotaging his own candidacy: “It’s like he’s choosing to lose.”@gabrielsherman reports: https://t.co/2zXK9f9r7e

— VANITY FAIR (@VanityFair) August 14, 2024

You know it’s legit, cuz Vanity Fair‘s Gabriel Sherman is usually holding a flashlight under his chin and telling “the unstoppable serial killer with a hook” campfire stories:

… Trump has been in a self-destructive spiral since the moment Democrats replaced Joe Biden with Kamala Harris. Trump’s descent began when he made a racist claim at a July 31 conference for Black journalists, saying that Harris changed her identity for political gain (“Now she wants to be known as Black,” Trump claimed). At a rally in Georgia a few days later, Trump ranted for nearly 10 minutes about the state’s popular Republican governor, Brian Kemp, whom Trump blamed for his 2020 loss to Biden. “Little Brian, little Brian Kemp. Bad guy,” Trump fumed. On Truth Social, Trump floated unhinged, evidence-free claims, such as his theories that Biden might crash the Democratic National Convention to take the nomination back and that Harris and Democrats are running a psyop by creating AI videos and images of the vice president’s packed rallies. “It’s nuts,” a Trump friend told me.

Republican donors and Trump campaign officials are struggling to understand why Trump seems to be sabotaging his own candidacy. One theory, according to sources, is that Trump has been experiencing trauma from his near-death experience following the assassination attempt at the rally last month in Butler, Pennsylvania. “He’s been watching that seven-second clip of how close he was to getting shot right in the head—over and over and over again,” the Republican close to the campaign said. “He may actually legit have PTSD.” A campaign official confirmed that the shooting continues to weigh on Trump. “He’s been through a lot,” the official said. (The Trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment.)

Another theory is that Trump can’t let go of the fact that Biden dropped out. “They cheated by swapping Biden,” Trump has told people, according to a person who recently spent time with the Republican presidential nominee. The Trump campaign believed that Harris’s honeymoon would fade, but instead, the opposite has happened: Her momentum is surging…

Many people are saying…

Such incredible messaging discipline https://t.co/hvGa5tbgQp

— Molly Jong-Fast (@MollyJongFast) August 15, 2024

Trump: You're all going to be thrown into a communist system. You will be thrown into a system where everybody gets health care. pic.twitter.com/nfimx3aAgs

— Acyn (@Acyn) August 15, 2024

Except he’s so mentally ill & undisciplined that he spent the whole time talking about Hillary’s emails, the Taliban, electric trucks, eagles, how the election was stolen from him, windmills how unfair media is, how Fani Willis is bad, & never touched any of the brilliant props. pic.twitter.com/IwWjxDszLi

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) August 15, 2024

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Saying they were tricked feels a little generous https://t.co/9XnEiX2YoY

— Jean-Michel Connard ??? (@torriangray) August 15, 2024

Keith says Trump invited his supporters. That includes the press corps.

— delirious quips (@CitizenQuips) August 15, 2024

After watching his press conference today, I’m more convinced than ever that Trump is losing it. – My new column for @WordInBlack. https://t.co/uxoBdKzJrF

— Keith Boykin (@keithboykin) August 15, 2024

And the district attorney then was https://t.co/yTq89f6TBP pic.twitter.com/PJRBAVS9vC

— George Conway (@gtconway3d) August 15, 2024

Aaand here’s their second-time-as-farce Joe Gillis:

Trump campaign brings Corey Lewandowski back on board https://t.co/OBGiNvzhVT

— POLITICO (@politico) August 15, 2024

… Lewandowski, who has remained an informal Trump adviser since his first campaign, is being brought on to advise the campaign’s senior leadership team, according to a person familiar with the move and granted anonymity to speak freely. He joins several other former Trump aides who will play similar roles…

In 2021, Lewandowski was removed from a top position in a Pro-Trump super PAC after he was accused by the wife of a donor to the former president, Trashelle Odom, of making unwanted sexual advances towards her at a charity dinner in Las Vegas.

Following the Las Vegas incident, a spokesperson for the former president said “Trump World” was no longer associated with Lewandowski. But Trump has long remained loyal to Lewandowski and has kept him in the fold. Lewandowski played a role at the 2024 Republican National Convention and has also consulted for the Republican National Committee…

During a press conference at his Bedminster resort on Thursday night, Trump, when asked about the staffing changes, replied, “Susie is fantastic, as you know. And Chris is fantastic. They are leading it.” He also said Lewandowski will be a “personal envoy or he’ll be at some level.”

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