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Voter Suppression

Newsworthy on this Wednesday Afternoon

by WaterGirl|  April 24, 20245:15 pm| 118 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Supreme Court Corruption, Voter Suppression, Voting Rights

A few quick things from me, now back to work.

BREAKING: The Arizona House has voted to REPEAL the 1864 abortion ban. Three republicans joined democrats to kill it. It goes to the senate next.

— Mueller, She Wrote (@MuellerSheWrote) April 24, 2024

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Breaking: The MAGA Supreme Court majority appears ready to rule that the right to “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” doesn’t extend to women with pregnancy complications or who otherwise need abortions.

This is horrifying, and it is because of Donald Trump. pic.twitter.com/LYXeFXkFRp

— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) April 24, 2024

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🚨BREAKING: Federal Court BLOCKS new Montana voter suppression law. Congratulations to the ELG team who litigated the case and our clients.https://t.co/LdvgGBYvbU

— Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) April 24, 2024

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I was hoping our breakup would never become public. We had such a great thing while it lasted James. I will miss the time we spent together. I will miss our conversations. I will miss the pet names you gave me. I only wish you the best and hope you find happiness. https://t.co/PwxF3XnaPV

— Jared Moskowitz (@JaredEMoskowitz) April 24, 2024

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Deeply saddened by the passing of Congressman Donald Payne Jr., a good friend, highly effective public servant and compassionate leader.

My prayers and support are with the Payne family and his loved ones during this difficult time.

May he forever Rest in Peace.

👑👑👑🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 pic.twitter.com/QXWkJPhzGv

— Hakeem Jeffries (@RepJeffries) April 24, 2024

Update: mistermix and I posted within 2 minutes of each other, so I pulled mine for awhile. I see that he covered the AZ 1864 bill, too, but I’m leaving that in anyway.

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Preaching to the Converted Open Thread: You Mean I Have to Vote *Every* Time?…

by Anne Laurie|  May 5, 20225:10 pm| 167 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Vote Like Your Country Depends On It, Voter Suppression

there has been a one hundred and fifty year campaign wholly devoted to stop people from voting. like, murders and stuff. bombings. things of that nature. death, what have you. https://t.co/nCjZNBV4oI

— World Famous Art Thief (@CalmSporting) May 4, 2022

Because there is always a fresh crop of twenty-something transanarchist Discordians (or bots emulating them) who wouldn’t have been paying attention in civics class if there ever was a civics class in their curriculum. (Also, several commentors requested Ms. Semrau’s argument be front-paged. Remember — sharing is caring!)

I don’t know how anyone can look at the historical arcs of civil rights, labor rights, LGBTQ rights, and women’s rights and then think to themselves, “Well, I tried voting once and nothing changed, so I guess I’m not going to vote again.”

— Magdi Semrau (@magi_jay) May 4, 2022

There is almost a profound disrespect here, particularly to Black citizens, who, even while oppressed & threatened with state-sanctioned violence, continued to fight until many, but not all, rights were won.

Now Black citizens’ already insufficient rights–gathered over the course of more than a century–are under threat & allies throw up their arms because apparently change is not happening quickly enough? Because we cannot see the immediate benefit of every vote we cast?

I think of this need for immediate gratification & how, on the left, we let it dissuade us from voting. I then think of the years of planning that went into the strategy of non-violence. That a decade passed btwn the Montgomery Bus Boycotts & the passage of the Civil Rights Act.

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I think of the rights The Civil Rights Movement secured for Black Americans & how, tho their victory was immense, it was far from complete. I think about how, 18 years after her husband was murdered, Coretta Scott King fought against Jeff Sessions' appointment to the judiciary pic.twitter.com/EubyzNZjyt

— Magdi Semrau (@magi_jay) May 4, 2022

This need for immediate gratification is also jarring when viewed against other long battles for freedom, equality, & dignity in American society. I think of the time that lapsed between Stonewall & Obergefell. Of how the US gov’t enabled the mass death of LGBTQ people in between.

I think of how more than 50 years passed between the 19th Amendment & Roe V. Wade. I also think of how, in 1978, 5 years after Roe, a man stood trial for raping his wife for the 1st time in the United States, but, even then, marital rape was not fully criminalized until the 90’s

I think that many privileged people have rested on our laurels because of the rights other Americans secured after generations of fighting. We should look at these histories now & ask ourselves why we feel so comfortable giving up just because change does not occur immediately.

People say voting doesn’t matter & I think of Democratic Black women I knew in Tennessee. They stood for hours in 95 degree heat to register voters. Usually, they’d only register a handful: ten or less. But then they’d always come back, in the heat, to register a handful more.

Then I think of the young white volunteers who would occasionally join these women. They’d show up, full of righteous energy, register only a handful of voters, & leave deflated, never returning again. We cannot continue this pattern. It is a betrayal.

Finally, as we look to the battle for abortion rights, I will add this: In 1978, John Rideout, the 1st man tried for raping his wife in the US, was acquitted b/c marriage was presumed to equal consent. Almost 4 decades later, Rideout was tried & convicted of raping his girlfriend pic.twitter.com/VtXCfaCYWd

— Magdi Semrau (@magi_jay) May 4, 2022

Change can & does happen. Change we do not want is unfolding all around us. This harmful change–the dismantling of rights others secured–is only possible b/c some of us cede the fight. We must redirect, look at the history of rights, & honor this history by rejecting all apathy

— Magdi Semrau (@magi_jay) May 4, 2022

I think the thinking is complex, but ultimately boils down to a customer-service approach to democracy.

— *The* Editorial Board (@johnastoehr) May 4, 2022

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Open Thread: #MoscowMitch Says the Quiet Part Out Loud

by Anne Laurie|  January 21, 202211:28 am| 77 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, Open Threads, Republican Venality, Right to Vote, Voter Suppression

McConnell to colleague Bret Baier: If I were the president, I don't think I'd have a two hour press conference again.

— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) January 21, 2022

Yeah, because #MinorityLeader ‘Speed Bump’ McConnell can’t even manage a ten-minute presser without stepping on his own… tongue:

In case you missed it, Mitch McConnell said the quiet part out loud last night: “African-American voters are voting in just as high a percentage as Americans.”

Make sure everyone sees this.pic.twitter.com/ReOvHGJcnI

— MeidasTouch.com (@MeidasTouch) January 20, 2022

Philip Bump, at the Washington Post — “Awkward phrasing isn’t the only problem with his argument”:

Shortly after the Senate voted down a proposed change to filibuster rules — thereby dooming a Democratic push to implement federal voting standards — Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and other top Republicans held a brief news conference…

A reporter raised the most extreme version of concerns about that change to McConnell, referring to the legislation that would no longer move forward.

“What’s your message for voters of color who are concerned that without the John L. Lewis Voting Rights Act they’re not going to be able to vote in the midterm?” he asked.

McConnell replied, “Well, the concern is misplaced, because if you look at the statistics, African American voters are voting in just as high a percentage as Americans.”…

“A recent survey, 94 percent of Americans thought it was easier to vote,” he continued. “This is not a problem. Turnout is up, biggest turnout since 1900. It’s simply — they’re being sold a bill of goods.”

The point about turnout being up significantly in 2020 is true. This was the same point President Biden made during his news conference on Wednesday, that turnout had been so high even without new federal rules, which he presented as a reason for some optimism. But this ignores a crucial point: Turnout was that high because voting access was expanded in response to the coronavirus pandemic. With more states implementing the sorts of changes that the Democratic proposal would standardize — and, of course, with a hyperpolarizing incumbent on the ballot — turnout was up.

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The concern expressed by Democrats is that there has been a backlash to the 2020 turnout that manifests in those new voting laws. Nineteen states passed new laws scaling back voting access. Sometimes those were efforts to unwind new policies that had been implemented for the pandemic. Often, they were broader. The entire point is that the 2020 benchmark provoked a backlash. For McConnell to point to it as proof that the system is doing fine is like a kid trying to assure you he hadn’t broken a vase by pointing to its having been intact when he picked it up.

There’s a useful analogue here. When the Supreme Court decided to remove the preclearance provision from the Voting Rights Act in 2013, Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. pointed to the lack of a racial disparity in turnout as a reason to do so. He described the law as having been “immensely successful at redressing racial discrimination and integrating the voting process” — and then used that success as a reason to upend the law. In a dissent, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg memorably compared this to “throwing away your umbrella in a rainstorm because you are not getting wet.”

This is McConnell’s argument now. He’s telling non-White voters that because they didn’t get wet in 2020, there’s no need to bar [other] people from drilling holes in their roofs…

I *am* American. #mitchplease pic.twitter.com/DU1VZnKoCJ

— Jonathan Capehart (@CapehartJ) January 20, 2022

We were Americans before America was America. #MitchPlease pic.twitter.com/515oxVZQgz

— Lakota Man (@LakotaMan1) January 20, 2022

I want to personally thank Mitch McConnell

He just mobilized the biggest African American voter turnout for Midterms

— A Black Woman..The End (@battletested5) January 20, 2022

Excellent reminder:

McConnell is not a master of Senate procedure. Constant obstruction requires no skill, nor does hobbling the courts. He's either failed to pass legislation or moved through visionless bills. All while bolstered by the support of an increasingly homogeneous authoritarian caucus.

— Magdi Semrau (@magi_jay) January 20, 2022

Meanwhile, there is no evidence that McConnell had some cunning insight into Manchin & Sinema. He literally just did nothing & watched it all unfold. There's no tangled web here. Just a deeply immoral person who sat back & was rewarded by two people's pompous fecklessness. pic.twitter.com/qdfhJphvpI

— Magdi Semrau (@magi_jay) January 20, 2022

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‘Interesting’ Read: Goo-Goo Politics, But From the RIGHT!

by Anne Laurie|  December 28, 202111:57 am| 81 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, Republican Stupidity, Republican Venality, Voter Suppression

I talked to people in NH about what it felt like to find people on your doorstep, asking about the 2020 election and how they voted a year later.
“I was enraged. I am to this day offended at the whole notion that there was any widescale election fraud.” https://t.co/fWVzgFXZgr

— Sarah Mimms (@mimms) December 14, 2021

I’m surprised that there haven’t been news stories about these mostly well-meaning, entirely deluded ‘citizen investigators’ being greeted with shotguns, frankly. From Sarah Mimms at Buzzfeed, “The Pro-Trump Conspiracy Internet Is Moving From Facebook To Your Doorstep”:

The man at the door said he was just there to verify some publicly available information.

In the home security video, he seems nervous and out of breath as he waits at the doorway, glancing frequently at his phone. Strangers don’t knock on doors much in Waterville Valley, New Hampshire, a small ski town. For a decade, it had just 250 year-round residents, until the pandemic hit and a bunch of Massachusetts residents decided to cross state lines and turn their rural vacation spot into a home. But the man at the door wasn’t one of them. He said his name was Dean and he was with the New Hampshire Voter Integrity Group…

Around town that Saturday in early October, other people were knocking on doors — specific ones, the rare ones where people actually live year-round — asking about the 2020 election. They had information on the residents, their names, whether they voted and if they did so in-person or absentee. In response, two Waterville Valley residents called the cops, according to a police report.

Across the country, the pro-Trump conspiracy theory internet is manifesting itself into knocks at the door. Individual election deniers and grassroots groups are canvassing for election fraud in states lost or even won by former president Donald Trump in 2020, including New Hampshire, Arizona, Colorado, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Florida, North Carolina, Utah, and Nebraska. Despite 60-plus court losses and countless official audits and recounts confirming the 2020 election results, many of Trump’s supporters are still so convinced of his lies that they’ve turned to this kind of vigilantism….

The New Hampshire Voter Integrity Group claims to be nonpartisan. Its founder, Marylyn Todd, a 37-year-old from Nashua, told BuzzFeed News in an interview that she is registered as an independent. Todd claimed in a Facebook message that “many” of their canvassers voted for President Joe Biden, but would not name them or connect them with BuzzFeed News. Todd also said that she has expanded canvassing across the state, focusing on towns where the group believes there is the most potential fraud, but she declined to name the towns they’ve visited. The group, she said, “is just trying to get to the bottom of the truth, nothing more, nothing less.”

Members of the group credit Dean, whose last name Todd declined to provide, with creating the app they use to track down voters. (Dean did not respond to questions messaged to his Telegram account nor to questions Todd said she shared with him via email.) The app is designed with a free site that Democrats have used in the past to canvass voters before an election. The app shows canvassers where to find nearby voters, as well as their addresses, whether they voted in 2020, if they voted in person or absentee, and whether they registered to vote same-day. The app asks canvassers to confirm that information and, if they find any discrepancies, to get voters to sign an affidavit and mail it to a P.O. box.

Todd said they are sharing those affidavits with members of the state legislature, “many” of whom are interested in their findings, but declined to provide names. She described affidavits the group collected from two households alleging election misconduct, but declined to share any names or details that could be fact-checked, citing the affiants’ privacy. The Trump campaign used affidavits as part of its failed legal strategy to challenge the 2020 election and held up the sworn statements to try to add some legitimacy to its bogus fraud claims, but, as the Washington Post noted at the time, many of those affidavits were never filed in court and the ones that were filed were often thrown out…

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… Todd is new to all of this. She said she didn’t even know what a state representative was before February and that she “barely voted” before this year, but she now leads a group that has acquired the voting machine tapes and voter information for nearly every town in the state by filing a bunch of public information requests and going in-person to get their data. Todd is clearly passionate and believes her work as an auditor for an accounting firm gave her the experience to do her own audit of New Hampshire’s election. She took a leave of absence from that job in February to focus on what she calls their citizens audit. “Did I know that I was still going to be here almost a year later on a leave of absence?” she said, laughing. “No. But, you know, auditing a whole state isn’t as easy as I originally thought it was.”…

Todd told BuzzFeed News she was just crossing T’s on a new app where anyone can check 2020 voting data for themselves and their neighbors, making sure that it is identical to the public information they got from their right-to-know requests. “You know, my life has already been affected so much from this that I just don’t want it affected any more than it already is,” she said.

She said she has not enjoyed her first foray into politics, repeatedly calling it “dirty” and “gross.” But almost a year after she started all of this, Todd plans to keep going. “It’s important for me to keep America, America. And when I saw this much opportunity [for fraud], it made me nervous for the future generations,” she said.

If politics were less dirty, “if people were ethical,” she said, “I’d probably run for something.”

During the original Gilded Age, back in the days of William McKinley and Teddy Roosevelt, high-minded middle-class voters were enticed to become Goo-Goos, Good Government ‘reformers’ who strove to cleanse the ‘corrupt’ urban political enclaves where filthy immigrants in their teaming tenements were accused of trading their votes for city jobs — or for lesser gifts, like coal in the bitter winters or food for families of the unemployed. The ‘untrustworthy’ voters in those days spoke Italian / Gaelic / Polish, not Spanish / Creole / Hindi, but the impulse to ‘keep America, America’ from their depredations remains unchanged.

In theory, at least, those Goo-Goos were considered ‘progressives’, soft-handed liberals without the imagination or the experience to understand why a corrupt big-city ‘machine’ might look pretty good to new voters forever on the edge of eviction or starvation. In practice, the ‘reformers’ were shock troops for the small-town oligarchs whose private little baronies were at risk from a new form of post-Civil-War urban organization… which enticed their best young employees, and even their own grown children, into deserting their birthplaces, even as it enticed the new laborers pouring into the American heartland to meet the demand for more labor in the burgeoning industries and marketplaces.

Marylyn Todd is the spiritual descendant of Jay Gould’s and William Randolph Hearst’s publicly pious, privately self-interested crusades. And, unfortunately, she’s not the only willing cannon fodder out there…

it is almost impressive the gymnastics this piece needs to jam “feral insane Trumpers are trying to make the pandemic worse” into a Both Sides frame https://t.co/csQhInzOKX

— ryan cooper (@ryanlcooper) December 27, 2021

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This Is Effective Civic Action! The Texas Democratic State Legislators Head To DC To Stymie Governor Abbott’s Special Legislative Session and New Voter Suppression Legislation

by Adam L Silverman|  July 12, 20212:22 pm| 99 Comments

This post is in: America, Domestic Politics, Open Threads, Politics, Silverman on Security, Voter Suppression, Voting Rights

Back in May when I did my post on revolutionary warfare and the concept of counter-revolutionary warfare, I delineated that counter-revolutionary warfare (CRW) is counter-guerilla warfare (CGW) + counter-political action (CP) + civic action (CA). When the Democratic state senators and representatives in the Texas state legislature walked out of the legislature to deny the Republican majorities a quorum and proven the passage of the new voter suppression laws during the final evening session on 30 May, they took both effective counter-political action and civic action. The former in that their actions denied the Republicans the ability to pass the new voter suppression laws. The latter because their actions achieved what Fall described as civic action of trying to fight a militant doctrine with proposals of better policy outcomes, but through finding simple, but adequate appeals. Basically doing and saying things that cut through the noise, cut through the bullshit, and plainly and clearly convey to the citizenry that actions are actually being taken to prevent them from coming to further harm or to promote their interests.

While it had not been formally stated until earlier today, everyone pretty much assumed that the Texas Democratic state senators and representatives would do the same thing – deny the Republican majorities a quorum – by not appearing at all for the special session that Governor Abbott has called for this month. This is not unusual in state legislative fights. The Texas Democrats have done this before. So have Washington Oregon’s state level Republican legislators. Usually they make headlines, get their points across, and either negotiate a better legislative package in exchange for returning and not holding up the legislative session or the state governor sends state law enforcement to arrest them, bring them back, and force them to go back to work in the legislature. In one of the most recent examples of this from Oregon state, one of the Republican legislators threatened to kill any and all state law enforcement from Washington who came to bring him back, as well as any law enforcement from the state he had fled to.

My concern has always been that like the last time Texas’s Democratic state legislators fled the state to prevent legislative actions, they’d go to Oklahoma City because it is close. The problem with that is that Oklahoma has a Republican governor and a Republican majority legislature and a Republican attorney general. Which means that if they’d fled there, or any other state with that kind of political dynamic, the statewide Republican officials would order the state’s law enforcement to assist the Texas Rangers who wold be sent to bring them back in bringing them back. In order to prevent that, they needed to go to a state or a jurisdiction that functions sort of like a state with a Democratic governor and attorney general. I was hoping they’d pick Colorado or New Mexico, because they’re close, but they made a decision that exceeded my wildest expectations.

More details about their plan and what they hope to accomplish: https://t.co/3Nw945W9fO

— Cameron Joseph (@cam_joseph) July 12, 2021

You can click through to Vice to read the details, but from a counter-political action + civic action perspective this is brilliant. Between DC Mayor Bowser, President Biden who controls the DC National Guard, and Speaker Pelosi who controls the Capitol Police, the Texas Democratic state legislators have just dared Governor Abbott, Lieutenant Governor Patrick who controls the legislature, and indicted and under additional Federal criminal investigation Attorney General Paxton to try to force them back. The counter-political action is denying the Texas Republican majorities a quorum so they can either vacate the special session, sit there during the special session and be able to accomplish nothing legislatively, or break the state legislature’s own rules to move the legislation without a quorum. My money is on option three as they broke the legislative rules to try to move it on the last evening of the session on 30 May.

The civic action component is having the Texas Republican leadership look impotent by not being able to have the Texas Rangers bring the Texas Democratic legislators back because the Texas Ranger can only get person they are after when that person is outside their jurisdiction if the jurisdiction that person is in cooperates and allows them to. The civic action component also includes very publicly lobbying their Federal Democratic counterparts to take even a little bit of the risks that the Texas Democratic state legislators are taking in fighting off Texas’s attempts at voter suppression.

Simple, but adequate appeals indeed!

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Merrick Garland Remarks on Voting Rights

by WaterGirl|  June 11, 20214:15 pm| 178 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Voter Suppression, Voting Rights

If you watched it, what did you think?

Never mind, this is balloon juice.  You don’t need to have watched it to have any opinion!

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Open Thread: Play (Political) Ball!

by Anne Laurie|  April 4, 20212:16 pm| 57 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Right to Vote, Sports, Voter Suppression

The reason I know the Biden infrastructure plan is immensely popular is that the GOP has preferred to declare war on the national pastime.

— Zd (@Zeddary) April 3, 2021

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fucked around ✅
found out ✅ https://t.co/6ZtvfnIFVt

— counterfactual (@counterfax) April 2, 2021

Disappointed @MLB will move the All-Star Game, but proud of their stance on voting rights. GA GOP traded economic opportunity for suppression. On behalf of PoC targeted by #SB202 to lose votes + now wages, I urge events & productions to come & speak out or stay & fight. #gapol

— Stacey Abrams (@staceyabrams) April 2, 2021

the game wasn’t relocated out of atlanta. the stadium is in unincorporated cobb county because the braves did not want their exurban fans to have to go into atlanta, for reasons i am sure you can figure out. https://t.co/AWw2ke8RYf

— Peloton InfoSec Analyst (Incident Response) (@CalmSporting) April 2, 2021

For people upset about sports applying political pressure on states, it appears they’ve forgotten the only reason Atlanta even *has* a baseball team is because in 1965 the city agreed to integrate seating at Fulton County Stadium as a condition for the Milwaukee Braves to move.

— Full Dissident (@hbryant42) April 3, 2021

Easy for the GOP to come out against MLB; Texas & Florida have two teams each, but the only other state of the Confederacy w a team is Georgia

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) April 3, 2021

Congratulations to @MLB for taking a stand on behalf of voting rights for all citizens. There’s no better way for America’s pastime to honor the great Hank Aaron, who always led by example.

— Barack Obama (@BarackObama) April 3, 2021

Losing elections to your social and racial inferiors in November, losing baseball in March. How much heartbreak can one take? https://t.co/9bomJJ53xB

— Alex Hazanov. (@alexhazanov) April 3, 2021

Loving Putin, hating baseball, tearing down democracy…
The party of Real American Patriots has logged on. https://t.co/jn0yAgM9c9

— Slava Malamud (@SlavaMalamud) April 4, 2021

Republicans: Cancel Culture is tearing this country apart!

Also Republicans: Excuse me while I cancel baseball.

— Rhino (@RhinoReally) April 4, 2021

The right would like to announce that baseball, Coca Cola, Delta, democracy, and the US military are now the left.
In exchange, the right claims Dr. Seuss, Mr. Potato Head’s genitalia, and the ability to ban businesses from doing “no shirt, no shoes, no service” with vaccination.

— Nicholas Grossman (@NGrossman81) April 3, 2021

the gop has turned taking itself hostage and threatening to shoot an absolute art form

— kilgore trout, a student of martial arts (@KT_So_It_Goes) April 2, 2021

and the nfl was never heard from againhttps://t.co/FFADxrvzY9

— kilgore trout, a student of martial arts (@KT_So_It_Goes) April 2, 2021

Democrats: Attempting to pass a multi-trillion dollar infrastructure bill to repair roads, highways, and internet

Republicans: https://t.co/ZIhxdCJrJk

— Jason O. Gilbert (@gilbertjasono) April 3, 2021

if state and congressional republicans want to declare a war on major sports organizations and drag them into fair labor conditions while simultaneously infuriating those organizations and their fans, well, gosh, i have no choice but to say and do nothing to stop them

— professional cancellation arbitration machine (@golikehellmachi) April 2, 2021

this whole MLB all-star game just feels like state and congressional republicans demand the right to shoot themselves in the dicks and dare the democrats to stop them, and i, for one, think that it's time the democrats take a hands-off approach to the problem.

— professional cancellation arbitration machine (@golikehellmachi) April 2, 2021

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