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The Decadent Left In Its Enclaves On The Coasts

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Get pissed, destroy

by DougJ|  February 16, 20118:46 am| 61 Comments

This post is in: David Brooks Giving A Seminar At The Aspen Institute, The Decadent Left In Its Enclaves On The Coasts

The clip’s not available yet, but Bobo was on Charlie Rose last night (that fucker is on that joke of a show all the time), and apparently he used some angry language. Reader J describes:

Charlie Rose naturally had a Republican, David Brooks, on to explain the Democratic president’s news conference and Brooks was beside himself, twice using vulgarities (“pissed off”), because the deficit is so high and potty-mouth prattled on about it being a moral issue.

I’m starting to like the GOP idea/ideal of eliminating funding of PBS.

The Charlie Rose show is the work of the devil. Is there any place that is more relentless in its pimping of right-center, Village conventional wisdom? But many people who call themselves liberals, especially older academics and other pseudo-intellectuals, can’t get enough of it.

Here’s a much less serious person with no knowledge of economics describing the real problems with the proposed budgets (via). Luckily, no one listens to such lunatics.

Nothing has changed since Iraq. The media dynamic is exactly the same. In fact, it might be worse. We have met the enemy and it isn’t the dreaded teabaggers, it’s our fine, Horace-quoting friends on PBS and in prestigious magazines.

I know this won’t sit well with everyone, but I fear that Obama too often takes his cues from such serious people.

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Beyond good and evil

by DougJ|  February 15, 201110:53 pm| 54 Comments

This post is in: David Brooks Giving A Seminar At The Aspen Institute, The Decadent Left In Its Enclaves On The Coasts

I just talked to a friend who is high up at a big New York bank about my take on the deficit, asking:

Is it accurate so say that (leaving out Medicare/Medicaid and the cost of private insurance, all of which are time bombs) that the logical thing to do with the economy is keep spending/running deficits ’til we’re really out of the recession, then jack up taxe rates on the wealthy and cut spending to bring the deficit down?

He said that, yes, he agreed and that many or most in finance would though with varying degrees of concern about excessive borrowing possibly causing a spike in interest rates and inflation.

This is not an issue that should be discussed in moral terms, but in pragmatic ones. If someone argues that the current deficit is catastrophic, that person should make an argument as to how it is, and not just claim that belt-tightening is inherently moral.

Pundits like to phrase things in terms of morality for a variety of reasons. Movement conservatives, especially Straussians, think it’s the right language to reason with/propagandize the Bieber-fearing proles. Some intellectually-inclined conservatives believe that everything should be argued morally rather than pragmatically/empirically, because that’s how Burke and Oakeshott and Jeebus did things. Villagers like moral arguments because they’re both simple and safe. Condemning a president for getting a blowjob is lot easier than combing through budget reports and you’ll never take any heat for it either.

The run-up to the war in Iraq was phrased in moral terms too. It was all about having the Churchillian resolve to fight evil and spread freedom, not about the pragmatic real-world problems that arise from creating anarchy in a large country with a history of ethnic strife. And so it is with we are all Georgians, Iranians, Egyptians, Algerians. It doesn’t matter whether anything we do helps the situations, what matters is that we’re on the right-side morally, in our minds, which are places that are infinitely more important than the world of other human beings.

I don’t deny that moralists can make certain arguments much better than a pragmatist (like me) can. Moral conviction against torture and for gay marriage is probably more convincing than “it doesn’t work anyway” and “why not?”.

A lot of issues just don’t come down to good versus evil, though, a lot come down to the numbers adding up, or a realistic plan, or an economic theory that is supported by historical evidence. Sure, we should get angry and self-righteous about the fact that we are ruled by sociopaths, but if their decisions were less destructive in practice, it wouldn’t be such a big deal that they are sociopaths.

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More on fiscal austerity and Iraq

by DougJ|  February 15, 20114:43 pm| 88 Comments

This post is in: David Brooks Giving A Seminar At The Aspen Institute, The Party of Fiscal Responsibility, The Decadent Left In Its Enclaves On The Coasts

So Digby noticed the Iraq/fiscal austerity parallels 7 months ago (h/t Elia). At any rate, it is quite striking. Here’s Orrin Hatch (h/t AK):

Hatch (Utah), the ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, accused Obama of surrendering on the budget like Chamberlain surrendered Czechoslovakia to Germany.

“The United States is demanding a Churchill on the issue of deficits and debt, but the administration has delivered us a Chamberlain,” Hatch said on the floor Monday, in a clear reference to Chamberlain’s foreign policy of “appeasement.”

I want to be clear, budgetary problems are complicated, just as Iraq is. I do not support running huge budget deficits forever, just as I did not support Saddam Hussein. However, I do not support spending cuts in the middle of the worst recession in 70 years, just as I did not support an ill-planned unilateral invasion of Iraq. And whenever someone starts talking about Chamberlain and Churchill in the context of some situation that bears no resemblance to the appeasement of Nazi Germany, I reach for my revolver.

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Is fiscal austerity the new Iraq War?

by DougJ|  February 15, 201112:55 pm| 183 Comments

This post is in: David Brooks Giving A Seminar At The Aspen Institute, The Decadent Left In Its Enclaves On The Coasts

The same people who pushed the Iraq War on us are now pushing fiscal austerity. Can you name any austerity hawks in this country who were not big Iraq War supporters? The arguments are similar too. We needed to invade Iraq to ward off the looming danger of WMD and spread freedom; we need to cut our budgets to ward off the bond vigilantes and teach ourselves discipline.

Don’t get me wrong, obviously, federal deficits can be problematic. I opposed the Bush tax cuts as well as their recent extension and believe that marginal rates for the wealthy should probably be higher than they were under Clinton (some of the deficit hawks believe the same thing, so I am not saying that they are all entirely crazy). The fact is, though, that we are in a recession and there is ample historical evidence to suggest that cutting spending is not a good thing during a recession.

With Iraq, we were told that we were for it or against it, that if we were worried that it might be an expensive disaster, then we were Neville Chamberlains, or even traitors. Real patriots don’t do nuance! It’s the same here, if you argue that we need radical changes down the road (my radical changes would involve tax rates and the medical system) but not massive spending cuts during the worse recession in 70 years, then you’re just “kicking can down the road”.

The middle part of the country — the great Red Zone that reveres Paul Ryan — is clearly ready for fiscal austerity. The decadent Left in its enclaves on the coasts is not dead—and may well mount what amounts to a fifth column.

Update. Ron Paul is an austerity hawk who opposed the Iraq War. I’d argue that he’s sui generis, given that military spending is one of the prime targets for his proposed austerity measures.

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You Told Me you Loved Me, But I Don’t Understand

by John Cole|  February 15, 201111:23 am| 171 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, Blatant Liars and the Lies They Tell, The Decadent Left In Its Enclaves On The Coasts, The Dirty F-ing Hippies Were Right

This seems worthy of making some headlines:

The defector who convinced the White House that Iraq had a secret biological weapons programme has admitted for the first time that he lied about his story, then watched in shock as it was used to justify the war.

Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, codenamed Curveball by German and American intelligence officials who dealt with his claims, has told the Guardian that he fabricated tales of mobile bioweapons trucks and clandestine factories in an attempt to bring down the Saddam Hussein regime, from which he had fled in 1995.

“Maybe I was right, maybe I was not right,” he said. “They gave me this chance. I had the chance to fabricate something to topple the regime. I and my sons are proud of that and we are proud that we were the reason to give Iraq the margin of democracy.”

The admission comes just after the eighth anniversary of Colin Powell’s speech to the United Nations in which the then-US secretary of state relied heavily on lies that Janabi had told the German secret service, the BND. It also follows the release of former defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld’s memoirs, in which he admitted Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction programme.

I will once again take the opportunity to post a link to what I consider the greatest post in the history of blogging, Operation Desert Snipe. I wish I had listened to it then, but in retrospect, it is so powerful.

*** Update ***

Watching the President’s press conference, and I’m finding the press to be aggressive, suspicious, and adversarial. THANK GOODNESS. I find it odd that they’ve chosen now to behave this way, but then again, the village infatuation with pain and entitlement cuts is well known. However, I’m not complaining. This is how they are supposed to behave. I want them to act like this. They aren’t the President’s partner. They aren’t supposed to be all chummy with people in Washington. What I would like is for them to be like this all the time. When Obama has a press conference, go after him. Same with Boehner and the Republicans. Sadly, I imagine this is a one-off.

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War, what is it good for? Getting a job at the Atlantic.

by DougJ|  February 14, 20113:36 pm| 189 Comments

This post is in: Blogospheric Navel-Gazing, Green Balloons, The Decadent Left In Its Enclaves On The Coasts

McMegan’s written another 3000 worder in favor affirmative action for conservatives in academia. What I find galling is that she herself is in a profession — establishment media — with among the most extreme systemic ideological biases of any profession I am aware of. Jay Rosen has written about this before.

I’d like to focus on one issue in particular that Rosen does not touch on: the Iraq War and the fact that the overwhelming majority of people who blog at the Atlantic were for it. Here’s a rough list (since I am arguing with McMegan here, I don’t feel the need to research this too carefully, so there could be a few who expressed opinions that I am leaving out): Yglesias, Douthat, McArdle herself, Crook (Deputy editor of the strongly pro-war Economist at the time), Sully, and Jeff Goldberg were all for it. I’m guessing Fallows and TNC said things opposing it, though I am not sure. That’s six to two (I’m including “opinion” bloggers, not straight reporters), so 75%, not so different from the percentage of academics who vote Democrat.

The Atlantic situation on the war is a bit worse than the numbers tell. Sullivan was extremely strident about the war, Megan spoke in favor beating war protesters with 2×4’s, Goldberg wrote some of the worst pre-war propaganda, Yglesias supported the war (at the time) despite “being liberal”. In almost all cases, except possibly Douthat, their support for the war far exceeded what one might expect, given their general political predilections: libertarians were not uniformly gung-ho about the war, liberals were generally against it, and, well, hardly anyone was as explicit about calling anti-war people traitors as Andrew Sullivan was.

I doubt that this is a coincidence. This is a lot worse than the supposed “bias” McMegan talks about in academia, it’s a case of people being promoted specifically because of their political beliefs. McArdle writes:

we have a lot more people writing for us than you’ve named

Sure, plenty of straight reporter types, whose thoughts on the matter have never been expressed publicly, not many who writes opinions. That’s how it works .

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Mississippi to South Carolina- “Screw you- We’re nuttier!”

by John Cole|  February 10, 20112:58 pm| 104 Comments

This post is in: Assholes, The Decadent Left In Its Enclaves On The Coasts

From the shit you can’t make up file:

Controversies over honoring Confederate heritage are not uncommon in the South, but some activists in Mississippi are pushing the envelope even further. The Mississippi Division of Sons of Confederate Veterans is proposing a license plate that honors Confederate Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest, who was also an early leader of the Ku Klux Klan.

Following the Civil War, Forrest was involved with the very first incarnation of the KKK. He was so closely associated with the group’s formation that he is sometimes incorrectly referred to as the KKK’s founder — though he was quickly elected Grand Wizard, and began centralizing disparate KKK groups under his authority. He believed that while blacks were now free, they had to continue to toil quietly for white landowners. “I am not an enemy of the negro,” Forrest said. “We want him here among us; he is the only laboring class we have.”

What is wrong with people?

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