2. WATCH: Bannon says firing of Comey was the biggest mistake in modern political history. Also, he refuses to answer if Kushner was for it. pic.twitter.com/d0zcZgowd1
— Yashar Ali ?? (@yashar) September 11, 2017
the reason bannon rarely does interviews is that it’s a lot easier to think he’s some kind of maniacal genius when he doesn’t open his mouth https://t.co/h70bTyV26a
— Ashley Feinberg (@ashleyfeinberg) September 11, 2017
Let’s just say, this interview did nothing to dissuade me from the impression that Bannon is an old-fashioned Irish mucker… one who’s measuring the collapse of his liver against the collapse of civilization, and doing his best to make it a photo finish.
Steve Bannon is the latest in a long line of Right Wingers to earn the moniker "A dumb person's idea of a smart person"
— Dan Pfeiffer (@danpfeiffer) September 11, 2017
can we talk about how there's been a more forceful effort to push hillary clinton away from public life than steve bannon
— Sarah Lerner (@SarahLerner) September 11, 2017
Bad news, he’s got the Mercers eating out of his greasy palm, and they’re as nihilistic as Bannon but without the almost-human touches. Slightly less bad news, right now Bannon’s more interested in punishing the not-Trump Repubs than he is in destroying Democrats, and I can’t find it in my heart to feel sorry for anyone in the GOP.
Steve Bannon is deeply tied to the Mercer empire. 60 Minutes didn't ask him a single question about it. https://t.co/yisCNoPZBI pic.twitter.com/rJUeyTd1Gg
— Media Matters (@mmfa) September 11, 2017
Billionaire BOB MERCER poised to fund anti-incumbent Senate effort. Spent 5 days meeting w/Bannon in Long Island https://t.co/LEAQyMeL13
— Alex Isenstadt (@politicoalex) September 10, 2017
Imagine being so committed to your unholy cause you are willing to spend 5 days with Steve Bannon. https://t.co/2YCSU9lsHc
— Schooley (@Rschooley) September 10, 2017
Snarki, child of Loki
Exactly why should we treat anyone that voted for Trump better than someone that voted for the National Socialist Partei in 1933 Germany?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Omnes Omnibus
Nah, he is just an asshole.
Cheryl Rofer
I am impressed by the makeup job someone did for Bannon. I haven’t seen much comment on this.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Cheryl Rofer:
Megan Amram said he had lipstick on his eyelids
jl
According to Bannon, we should be thankful for the strong immigration controls of the ante bellum ‘American System’ that kept all the Irish and Germans out of the country. Without them, the North might have won the Civil War, which would have created all sorts of problems.
Edit: Bannon is like Karl Rove. Picked up some isolated factoids on US history, threw them into a sea of ignorance and bigotry, and created a host of bizarre counterfactual fantasies. So, for example, James K Polk (TN DemocRAT), and ‘American System’ really?
dmsilev
@Omnes Omnibus: The Onion dubbed him the White House’s most encrusted advisor.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
Bannon is a toad in the worst sense possible. He is a diseased drunk with bad skin. He actually exudes body odor in photographs.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@West of the Rockies (been a while):
And those are his good qualities!
Cheryl Rofer
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I thought they did a good job of patching up all the red spots on his cheeks and nose. There’s little that can be done about eyelids. I find that particular claim absurd.
efgoldman
@Cheryl Rofer:
Yes, they made him look exactly like the guys my mom’s oldest sister used to yell at on the Bowery.
SiubhanDuinne
I could pack the contents of three closets in the combined bags under Steve Bannon’s and Charlie Rose’s eyes.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Sorry– she’s a comedian, one of the many I only know from twitter, she was making a joke. Struck me as funny cause that was one of the first things I noticed was that red line under his eyes
joel hanes
@Cheryl Rofer:
Early section of the thread on Kevin Drum’s blog was spirited debate over what kind of alien life form/parasite was animating it under the skin
Major Major Major Major
You weren’t kidding about the horror show. I’m playing Witcher 3, where I hunt ghouls, and thinking about a comic with vampires and demons and shit (which btw thanks to so many people for visiting and subscribing, wow!), and we’re literally having a thunderstorm in San Francisco right now, but this post is what tipped it into horror show territory.
Aleta
He kind of did say the Kushner was for it, in that sly // subtle // puppetmaster // way of his.
cmorenc
The fact that Trump happily brought Bannon into the White House with him as a key advisor was an even clearer “tell” about the direction of his Administration right from the get-go than even his nomination of Sessions as AG or Pruitt for EPA. Bannon’s continued presence at Trump’s shoulder should have immediately dissipated any hopes that Trump might choose to govern as an eclectic maverick mixing some progressivism here some conservatism there, and served as a warning that Trump would bring the worst elements of his campaign self to the office rather than show any capability to show or grow a different side of himself.
Hard to remember, but some folks did initially hope Trump would somehow be different in office than he was on the campaign trail and his life before politics.
Brachiator
Does Bannon have a book out? Aside from some general fascination with Trump’s Rasputin, I don’t see the point of all these softball, kiss ass interviews.
ETA. Aside from ratings, of course.
RobertDSC-iPhone 6
Why would anyone want to talk to a Nazi?
Major Major Major Major
@Brachiator: if Bannon did have a book out I guarantee he’d get a warmer reception than Hillary.
efgoldman
@cmorenc:
They were delusional, of course.
Omnes Omnibus
@<[email protected]RobertDSC-iPhone 6: Ratings.
eemom
@Cheryl Rofer:
And here I’ve been thinking how brutal it is to expose anyone to that horrible close up without a trigger warning. #perspective
Frankensteinbeck
I submit Brannon’s stupidity as more proof that it does not take masterminds or skilled politicians to get elected if the public wants what you’re selling badly enough. What Trump was selling, and what the GOP has been selling, is white supremacy.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
Anyone have any thoughts on the death of Eric Bolling’s son? Bolling is a bully and a loudmouthed putz. Could he also be a solid father? Seems weird that (according to reports I’ve seen), the son was devastated by his father’s firing — not his reported harassing behavior — so devastated that he OD’d (intentionally or otherwise). A very strange case.
Brachiator
@cmorenc:
. This was never anything more than a fantasy based on a pundit’s own inner dreams, hopes, and personal inclinations.
These dopes ignored what Trump actually said. They ignored the vile people he surrounded himself with. They ignored the types of people he sought as his base.
And the most foolish dopes are still looking for Trump’s moderate pivot, probably next to unicorn tears, Big Foot, the Loch Ness Monster and Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate.
Brachiator
@Major Major Major Major:
Yeah, you’re probably right.
Has Bannon appeared on Fox News yet? I gotta imagine that he wants to speak directly to the GOP wingnut base.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I thought this thread was well ron4, and the Powers that Be at Politico probably won’t get it.
and sometimes… it is
Steve in the ATL
@SiubhanDuinne:
Well played.
Major Major Major Major
I still can’t believe we’re having a thunderstorm in San Francisco. This never happens.
Roger Moore
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
They pointed a camera at him. It’s a very advanced technique.
eemom
@efgoldman:
@cmorenc:
Not delusional, desperate. Pathetic, if you will….but in the horrible days of last November, it really was a thing….you’d try to piece together a narrative based on the theory that trump cared enough about keeping the approval of his “base” to hunker down and fuck over the republican agenda, and that the republicans in Congress were so scared shitless of alienating them that they’d be beaten into submission. Particularly wrt his “promises” on health care.
And it really wasn’t all THAT crazy….except for the underlying assumption that trump’s attention span could ever exceed that of a toddler playing with his itty bitty dick.
Omnes Omnibus
@eemom: And? One assumes you have a point.
Shalimar
@Brachiator: Breitbart has an internet video component. They see themselves as the successor to Fox’s place at the top of the rightwing propaganda hierarchy. Fox News wouldn’t be Bannon’s first choice for appearances.
Brachiator
@Shalimar:
Good point. I would think, though, that they would want to steal the Fox News viewership.
Major Major Major Major
@Brachiator: they have been, iirc.
efgoldman
Sometimes a game between two mediocre teams can be really fun.
Major Major Major Major
@efgoldman: very true!
Mnemosyne
Checking in from my writing retreat. It’s pretty good so far — I got 4,000 more words of my novel written plus I walked over 13,000 steps up and down the hills of Lake Arrowhead looking for good spots to bring my Chromebook. I’m hoping to keep that pace up over the next few days, though I realized tonight that I have a major structural problem I need to fix.
Mike J
@Major Major Major Major: Squamous and rugose was made for Bannon.
Yes, I’m reading Atrocity Archives on your rec.
Adam L Silverman
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: This photographer works with the Rage Furby.
Details here:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/20/magazine/the-annie-leibovitz-of-the-alt-right.html
Adam L Silverman
@Cheryl Rofer: The claim started with Dim Jim – the Stupidest Man on the Internet. So…
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: If they’d just talked about their preferred beverages for their day drinking and kept the whole thing on their alcoholism it would have been a much better use of 60 Minutes time.
And I am in no way trying to make light of alcoholism.
Mnemosyne
@Brachiator:
I would be very curious to know what the ratings were. Do people really tune to watch that ambulatory sack of shit bloviate?
Mike J
heheh
Sometimes you love it when people you don’t like are trending on twitter.
Ted Cruz.
Major Major Major Major
@Mike J: cool, hope you like it.
@Mnemosyne: oh no, not a major one! Ugh! But fortunately you’re at a retreat. Get outta here, you!
My writing has been pretty good too ever since my vacation ended. Nice and head clearing I guess. I’ve got about three chapters left until my draft is done. Climax part 1, climax part 2, denoument. Probably about 7500 words.
Adam L Silverman
@Major Major Major Major: Have you considered naming it? I understand that if you do it will get 24/7 wall to wall coverage. Also a lot of people will donate stuff to you after it is over.
Adam L Silverman
@Mnemosyne:
In your writing or your walking?
efgoldman
@Major Major Major Major:
Which chapter has the ripping of the bodices?
Major Major Major Major
@Adam L Silverman: Frank.
@efgoldman: my story is about disappearing fish.
Mnemosyne
@efgoldman:
All of them, Katie.
Mike J
@Mnemosyne: It is set in a bodice recycling center.
Mnemosyne
@Major Major Major Major:
I put my whole story onto scene cards and discovered that I have 48 scenes in the first half and 26 in the second half. This is a problem. ?
Adam L Silverman
@Major Major Major Major: That’ll work. Now you need to go stand outside in the deluge while live video blogging the thunderstorm’s effects. Once you do that, as well as interview a few people fleeing the rain, you’ll be all set.
sharl
@Mike J: LOL, the problematic “Like/Fav” has now been removed from Cruz’s twitter account. In the meantime, Ashley is having lots of fun; this kind of silly story has everything she likes, and the Cruz angle is icing on the cake (they have a history of sorts).
That tweet is “clean”, but if you’re using a computer in a ‘NSFW’ situation, it would be best that you not scroll around Feinberg’s TL at the moment.
cokane
tbh, i hope bannon succeeds in wingnutting up GOP primaries. this backfired big time in 2012 and 2014 for the GOP. it will also create a divide between Trump and establishment republicans, likely gumming up any continued big legislative efforts during Trump’s term.
Pete Downunder
@Major Major Major Major: When I lived in the Bay area 15 years ago we would get the occasional storm coming up from the south, but as I recall it was usually June not September. We’d get grass fires started by lightning in the east bay hills.
cokane
@Brachiator: it was just one interview dude. and it’s pretty typical to try and get a guy that high profile right after he leaves, and it definitely wasnt kiss ass
Comrade Mary
@Cheryl Rofer: That looks like ocular rosacea to go along with with facial rosacea. Eyes get more or less irritated, and the red/pink on his face will show more under cool lighting (e.g. daylight versus warm incandescent bulbs). Makeup can dull it to some degree.
Major Major Major Major
@Adam L Silverman: that sounds like work!
@Pete Downunder: yeah, in SF proper they’re pretty rare. Lots of lightning on this one, close.
Mnemosyne
@Comrade Mary:
You don’t have to be an alcoholic to have rosacea (I’ve had it since I was 19 and barely drink), but alcohol abuse is a common enough rosacea trigger that it was nicknamed “gin blossoms.”
Mnemosyne
@Adam L Silverman:
You know you’re in trouble when you’re out of shape, in the mountains (elevation 5,000 feet), and the sign pointing the way you want to go says the path is called “Cardio Hill.” ?
lgerard
This makes no sense whatsoever. If trump is innocent as Bannon says replacing Comey with Mueller works to his advantage as absolution from Mueller is far more valuable then from Comey.
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
@Major Major Major Major:
Pretty wild, huh? We’re in the southeastern part of the City and have roughly 300 degree views from our little chez Colette, so we saw it sweep in from the east, stall over Mt. Davidson, turn south, sneak back around to surprise us from behind, and then head off northwest again. It rained HARD here off and on for three hours. Crazy! The weirdest thing was all the sideways pinkish-orange lightning. And there was that one long part of the storm with alternating flashes from right over us and then a couple of miles to the northwest, back and forth, like gods or giants battling with lightning bolts.
OK, I’m a giant dork, but it was cool! I know folks from the midwest, mid-Atlantic, etc. are all “so what, big deal” but it’s incredibly rare here. Climate change massively sucks but it did put on a show tonight.
opiejeanne
@Mnemosyne: Are you at the UCLA conference center? Our cabin is in Blue Jay, about a mile from Lake Arrowhead Village, on highway 189. When David worked a SoCal agency they held leadership workshops there and we’d have his group over for lunch at the cabin on one of the days of the conference.
Major Major Major Major
@Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: very rare, yes. I grew up in Denver and they have some big ones out there, but, well, just because something happens more somewhere else doesn’t make it less exciting when it’s rare and happens where you are.
Villago Delenda Est
@lgerard: This is the problem. Donald is as guilty as sin of numerous felonies.
opiejeanne
@Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: In Riverside, in SoCal, there was a week one summer when we had sheet lightning every night. No rain, just this weird light show in the sky and lots of rumbling thunder. It was pretty cool.
Major Major Major Major
@opiejeanne: that sounds super cool. Always liked sheet lightning.
Eljai
@Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: It was cool! I’m in Marin County, and when I got off the bus after work tonight, it was raining with thunder and lightening. I’m always telling my friends and family back in the midwest that we rarely get the sound and light effects with the rain. I normally keep to myself, but I was so surprised I felt compelled to blurt out to strangers at the park ‘n ride: “Did you hear that? Did you see that flash?”
opiejeanne
@Major Major Major Major: Never saw it before or since. It never seemed to streak to the ground, just back and forth in the clouds. It seemed unthreatening, unlike an extremely violent thunderstorm one year that was so bad that cancelled an appointment across town and took the kids back home.
Major Major Major Major
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought it was cool.
Eljai
@Major Major Major Major: It was rather delightful. I was on the phone with my mom in Missouri a couple days ago and she asked me if we had rain and I said “Nah, we won’t get rain (not counting fog) in northern California for at least another month or so.” What the hell do I know.
chopper
@Omnes Omnibus:
it’s an open fucking thread, jackass.
chopper
@Eljai:
we had some lightning and thunder a while back here in seattle, i was all what the fuck is this shit?
?BillinGlendaleCA
I’m reading “What Happened”, it’s pretty good.
barb 2
HRC’s book arrived on my Kindle — I just started reading it. Her sense of humor is still alive and well. Something about — if the Russians could hack her brain . . .
She has a story to tell — and those of us who care about the future will read this living history. A lot of people are getting away with crimes. Shitgibbon is where he is because he is a crook, and he is being rewarded for criminal behavior. I will not forget nor forgive the crooks and criminals running this country — a.k.a. The GOP.
rikyrah
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
This just cracked me up
rikyrah
@West of the Rockies (been a while):
Could father have been covering for the son? Maybe the private part pictures weren’t from ERIC Bolling after all?
SFAW
@Major Major Major Major:
Hell, if Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy had a book out, with a foreword by Adam Lanza, it’d get a warmer reception than Hitlary’s
ETA: With “Doctor” Jill Stein telling us that those guys weren’t as bad as Hitlary would have been.
SFAW
@cokane:
Or, in the case or President McCain, even longer.
Cheryl Rofer
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Ah, thanks. I’m not much for popular culture, so I miss some of these things.
SFAW
@Cheryl Rofer:
You ain’t missing much, trust me.
Regnad Kcin
@Mnemosyne: classic writing advice: you started the story too early
Mnemosyne
@opiejeanne:
Yep. There are 3 or 4 other conferences here at the same time. I have occasionally felt underdressed in my shorts and t-shirt because some of the other groups are in business attire.
@Regnad Kcin:
Simple, classic, and wrong. ? What I actually need to do is more research on the setting for the second half of the book.
opiejeanne
@Mnemosyne: Dave says they never wore business attire at the conference.
Tehanu
@Mnemosyne:
Didn’t know you were writing a novel. Good on you, hope you enjoy working through the challenges. That place by Arrowhead is nice to be in, I’ve seen it and it’s undoubtedly a good atmosphere, but for me, the best thing about writing is when you’re doing something else and suddenly an idea starts formin’ in your ‘ead. Doesn’t matter where you are when that happens.