Thought I saw a commercial for a “Dynasty” reboot the other day. Can that be true? It might as well be; seems we’re doomed to relive the worst of the 1980s, what with Blake-Biff Ewing in the White House and all. Via CNN:
President Donald Trump’s first wife, Ivana Trump, called herself “first lady” in an interview Monday ahead of the release of her memoir, “Raising Trump.” Now his current wife, first lady Melania Trump, is firing back, slamming her comments as “attention-seeking and self-serving noise.”
Maybe the First and Third Ladies can don massive shoulder pads and stage a pay-per-view steel-cage death match in the Rose Garden. They could raise a ton for cyber-bullying charities.
No One You Know
I loved her explanation that she was here to help children, not sell books. Wasn’t that long ago that she filed a lawsuit because she was hindered from using her unique position to promote her beauty line.
debbie
Refereed by Richard Spencer, of course.
dmsilev
Always remember, for conservatives, it was the Obamas who degraded the dignity of the White House.
Emphasis on White.
Butch
Well, we already have a rebirth of Doogie Hauser MD in “The Good Doctor,” so I don’t see why we can’t have another Dynasty. (Or “Howser?” Sorry I didn’t think it was worth it to check the spelling.)
JDM
@dmsilev: I’m old enough to remember how incensed the GOP were with Jimmy Carter for degrading the White House by inviting some NASCAR drivers there.
Villago Delenda Est
Oh, a cat fight between these two harridans would be wonderful.
I’d root for Melania, only because she’s not the bitch who bore Uday, Qusay, and Lolita.
? Martin
Anecdote – slightly broke my foot last week (hairline fracture – no biggie), Saturday made an appt at urgent care for an hour later, nurse calls me 30 minutes before the appt and says that she put in an order for an xray, should do that before I head up to the appt. I arrive, get a wristband, wait 5 minutes for an xray, 10 minutes later arrive at dr office. Wait 5 minutes, spend 30 minutes with extraordinarily nice doctor (seriously, I hate to generalize, but are Sikhs the most wonderful group of people you’ve ever met?) sends me on my way. $20.
Can we repeal Obamacare and replace it with Kaiser? I know they have their faults, but from what we have now everything is up.
SiubhanDuinne
@Butch:
It is “Howser,” and the only reason I know that is that the name showed up in a word game puzzle I was playing a day or two ago, and I got it wrong at first. Never saw the show, although was peripherally aware of its existence.
Eric S.
Based on some billboards I’ve seen I do believe a Dynasty reboot is coming.
boatboy_srq
Says fortune-seeking gold-digging Wife #3 of Wife #1 – who had the sense to file for divorce when Lord Dampnut was actually worth something.
@dmsilev: It always boils down to that, doesn’t it? Although race doesn’t explain serial-adulterer Gingrich’s crusade against the Clintons.
Patricia Kayden
@Villago Delenda Est: I’d root for neither of them. They should knock each other the hell out. Any woman who willingly marries someone as awful as Trump deserves no sympathy.
So Melania couldn’t have just let Ivana’s relatively tame comment roll off her back and ignore it? She had to respond in an over-the-top manner and bring more attention to it? No wonder she’s with Trump. They’re perfect for each other.
Roger Moore
They’ve already done reboots of Dallas, The A Team, Dukes of Hazard, Transformers, Voltron, and My Little Pony. What’s one more crappy 80s reboot?
trollhattan
@Villago Delenda Est: Yup, somebody needs to answer for those darn kids, who refuse to vacate my lawn and my gummint.
Happy for Tiffany she’s stayed well away. Maybe she gets a normal life out of the deal.
Amir Khalid
I have just the right soundtrack for a wig-snatching battle royale between Ivana and Melania.
raven
RIP Y.A. Tittle
Roger Moore
@? Martin:
The term you’re looking for is NHS. IMO, integrated payer/provider networks like Kaiser are really the way to go.
Patricia Kayden
@Eric S.: CW is reviving Dynasty.
trollhattan
BTW, DiFi confirmed today she’s running. Mixed feelings about this but it certainly makes for a crowded CA governor race.
Roger Moore
@Amir Khalid:
I was expecting Yakety Sax.
Elizabelle
From the CNN link:
Um, Ivana ….
Roger Moore
@trollhattan:
I hope she gets exactly one very strong Democratic challenger. It would be great to be in a position to choose between two Democrats in November.
Brachiator
@Butch:
Saw a public service TV spot yesterday featuring Doogie Howser and other TV doctors from recent medical shows (Grey’s Anatomy, Scrubs, etc). Pretty funny stuff.
Elizabelle
And what a strange, strange title.
Raising Trump.
Raising Hell.
Raising Dirt Clods.
Raising Arizona …
And Elizabelle the Cat speaks: Ivana looks like a person in her very late 80s trying to look like a 60 year old.
She’s allegedly 68. She looks hard, hard, hard. Plastic surgery not gone good for her.
? Martin
@trollhattan: Yeah, I have mixed feelings as well. Wouldn’t have minded seeing Adam Schiff run for that seat. That said, DiFi’s seniority and committee leadership is nothing to sneeze at.
Brachiator
@trollhattan:
DiFi announced that she is running for re-election to the Senate. Nothing to do with the governor’s race.
Roger Moore
@Butch:
At least they didn’t go for the complete reboot by keeping the name and having an obligatory walk-on role for Neil Patrick Harris.
bystander
I thought this was going to be a post about the great Wig-Stock celebrations every Memorial Day weekend in Tompkins Square Park.
Just was reading a New Yorker review of the new Joni Mitchell biography. The guy said she was skeeved by the idea of a bunch of kids wallowing in the mud at Woodstock and wrote the song as a dirge and not an anthem. Who knew A Case of You was about Leonard Cohen?
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
As is always the case with anything having to do with this family–such as it is; if that word even holds with these people–the thing that truly leaps out at me is how astoundingly thin skinned these people [sic] all are. I’ve never seen anything like this. They can’t let anything go, anything at all, even when it isn’t even a slight. Are they, well, for lack of a better word, normal? I mean, is this something that happens a lot and I’ve been lucky enough never to have known anybody like this? Or are they truly as freakish as they seem to me? Where do people like this come from? How do people turn out this way? I feel like I’ve been, the whole country has been, sucked into some kind of sociological-anthropological study of the most unhealthy people on Earth.
ruemara
Yes, it is a reboot. And in much better news, meet some new folks.
First is, Muffin, the stalking horse trap artist. And her foster sibling, Surprise!, as in surprise bitch I’m coming too. Who turned out to be a serious cuddle bug. The whole household of two serious adults are busy crawling on the floor, trying to play, snuggling things and wiping boogers from Surprise. Both are feral rescues who were found 2 weeks ago. And obviously, I have lost my mind.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@trollhattan:
More crowded? I’d love to have a Dem with statewide name recognition run against DiFi.
pamelabrown53
Wowser, Betty. This has the potential for a fun post.
Except there is no Crystal in your analogy: it’s Alexis I and Alexis II. Do we care who wins? Jeez, I’m embarrassed that I know this show.
Still, is there a reason Melania couldn’t find the class to just ignore Ivana? Does anyone, even Trump’s supporters’ think of Melania as a “First Lady”?
Finally, I have a question for all the wimmins: if big shoulder pads come back, how will you #resist?
jl
FLOTUS finally seems to have found a topic that really engages her attention. Probably should focus on the WH garden rather than this stuff. I want whatever dignity that can be salvaged. The Trumpster Hisself is hopeless.
trollhattan
@Brachiator:
It has everything to do with the governors race, as many Dems have been waiting to see which office to compete for. Nobody with serious ambitions will primary DiFi, which makes governor the only prize in play.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Brachiator: If DiFi wasn’t running for re-election, some might decide that the Senate looked better than a crowded race for Governor.
eclare
@Elizabelle: Come sit by me…
Roger Moore
@Brachiator:
Not directly, at least. But if she were retiring, you can bet at least some of the people running for Governor would run for Senate instead.
Amir Khalid
@SiubhanDuinne:
It starred future gay icon Neil Patrick Harris as Douglas “Doogie” Howser Jr, a genius 16-year-old doctor whose best friend is still in high school, and climbs a tree to visit Doogie in his upstairs bedroom. Almost every episode ended with Doogie writing a diary entry on his PC about the week’s life lessons, and a closing theme that was apparently performed on a cheap Casio keyboard.
Monala
@? Martin: Sure they’re not going to send you a bill later? Kaiser bought my insurer, and all our prices have gone up.
SiubhanDuinne
@ruemara:
That’s some killer adorableness right there.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@jl: No, the previous FLOTUS did the garden thing and the Trumps can’t to ANYTHING the previous POTUS and FLOTUS did.
ruemara
@Elizabelle: Evil fucks up your face.
Granted, I’m an exception.
Roger Moore
@pamelabrown53:
There isn’t a milligram of class in the entire family.
Elizabelle
@? Martin: Agree re Kaiser Permanente. I unwittingly moved out of their service area. Bad mistake. Although it’s temporary.
re DiFi: interesting angle, the seniority. She’ll be a placeholder, on influential committees, until she is no longer able to serve (or the Senate term concludes).
And then, hearing that Bob Iger of Disney is “not ruling out a 2020 presidential bid.” Dog save us from the captains of industry that throw their golden hats into the ring next …. (FTF NYTimes link.)
SatanicPanic
@Roger Moore: I hope we find somewhere prominent for Kevin deLeon. I like that guy.
Morfydd
@pamelabrown53: um, hate to break it to you, but big shoulders are back. Check out the runway shows this year.
SgrAstar
@? Martin: ffs. Diane Feinstein is 83 years old. She should not run again. Since she’s determined to do so, a strong young candidate should challenge and take her out of the Senate. Damn the committee chairmanships- we need new people, new ideas, new energy for representing the California of the future (hello, Kamala!) in the Senate.
Ruckus
@Roger Moore:
And someone chided me the other day for saying I don’t watch current day TV. It doesn’t sound any different than TV 30 yrs ago. It’s like the oldies radio at work, new day, same old shit. The content isn’t horrible, it’s just been done to absolute boredom.
LesGS
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.): I think they’re Performers. They are career media celebrities who are *driven* to keep all eyes on them. “Look at me! Look at MEEEE!” Hence the constant pushing forward into the spotlight and responding in an over-the-top manner to every. little. thing. They turn minor (or non-) slights into major productions because that is how they maintain their celebrity (and, previous to their gig in the White House), their income.
It’s so exhausting after No Drama Obama…
SiubhanDuinne
@Amir Khalid:
I knew the basic premise, and can’t now remember why I didn’t watch it — it sounded kind of appealing (at least worth a try). It must have aired during a slot or on an evening when I had some other commitment.
ruemara
@SiubhanDuinne: They are. And so small! I forgot how small kittens are.
Ruckus
@Roger Moore:
My bosses healthcare insurance is dropping coverage so he has to find a new carrier and I suggested Kaiser. He’s not a fan, because someone he knows didn’t get premium care but others I’ve known seem to like it. Seems like it was modeled after the VA but without having that pesky congress trying to cut funding all the time and approving people to run it who don’t have a fucking clue.
Mnemosyne
@ruemara:
I’m glad you have a good excuse for not being around. ?
I’m home sick with a migraine today, so Nurse Charlotte is making sure to keep me company. I need to get up and scrounge something for lunch soon — probably oatmeal since I have a ton of it.
SiubhanDuinne
@Elizabelle:
You’re looking at Ivanka in another 10-15-20 years.
Roger Moore
@Monala:
Kaiser doesn’t send bills. You pay your copay, and that’s it. You generally only even have a copay for prescriptions and seeing a physician. A couple of years ago, I had a health scare that wound up involving a visit to urgent care, consultations with a neurologist and a cardiologist, a CT, two MRIs, two EEGs, a month of cardiac monitoring, and a bunch of other lab tests. My total out-of-pocket expense was limited to copays for the visits to urgent care and the two consultations. There was no copay for any of the tests that didn’t require a physician. That’s entirely normal at Kaiser.
trollhattan
@Ruckus:
There’s probably 95% more content today so yeah, most will be dreck (with a kid hooked on Kardashians I am aware of how bad it can be) but in our wildest dreams we could not have imagined the best shows we’ve had the last decade or so. I did’t even own a TV for about ten years back in the ’70s and ’80s.
Not that doing something useful isn’t still a better choice.
Roger Moore
@SatanicPanic:
I wish Feinstein were retiring so Adam Schiff would be more likely to run for her spot. I like the cut of his jib.
Amir Khalid
@ruemara:
What better place to lose one’s mind is there, than in the cuteness of a young kitteh?
Elizabelle
@SiubhanDuinne: Ivanka will look better. Ivana looked hard in her 30s. Who knows, maybe she’s charming in person. Always looked kind of fake and upholstered.
A lot of folks from the 1980s looked upholstered.
pamelabrown53
@Morfydd:
So. Seems a little early to recycle that look . Oh! Wait! Only a few years shy of the recycle mark (@ every 40 years).. Gotta tell ya, it’s hard to be careening into old lady territory and keep up with fashion. We female (elders) are pretty much invisible anyway.
No One You Know
@Amir Khalid: oh god yes. That is perfect!
Ruckus
@trollhattan:
Not that doing
something usefulanything else isn’t still a better choice.I believe I fixed it for you.
Montanareddog
I never saw a single minute of Dynasty during its original run, but I do remember it was kind of a big deal at the time. So I was curious enough to click on Betty’s clip. Well, that was some premium-grade shit. Looks like my Eighties were not entirely wasted.
Mnemosyne
@Roger Moore:
The Giant Evil Corporation offers Kaiser, but I ended up switching insurance because the prescription coverage they offered was pretty bad — if there wasn’t a generic version available for your prescription, you had to pay full price for it. But I think that was part of the GEC’s contract with Kaiser, not a general Kaiser policy.
The other issue is that it can be a pain in the ass to get to a specialist, at least on this side of the 5. My options were Hollywood or Beverly Hills.
Elizabelle
@ruemara: They’re wonderful. Are you fostering them? They will be hard to give up. Darling kitties. Deserve a morning feature.
We as readers should demand moar pet plctures in the mornings. Topic can be anything A Laurie likes to discuss, but pet pictures to soothe us savaged
beastsjackals.bemused
@Elizabelle:
What on earth made her think blowing up her lips was a great idea? Her lips looked just fine in photos when she was married to the pig. I know, not supposed to be so critical about looks but damn, she reminded me immediately of Goldie Hawn in that wives club movie.
No one has the ideal family but thinking of living in and being a part of the Trump family makes me shudder.
Amir Khalid
@Elizabelle:
The 1980s were when NFL-sized shoulder padding was in for women’s jackets. And even dudes wore bright, clashing colours.
Monala
@Roger Moore: Yes, Kaiser does send you bills. I have Kaiser, and I have a shit-ton of bills that I am paying to them right now (3 family members covered, all with bills for different conditions). They bought out my provider, Group Health of Washington, a couple of years ago, and have been raising prices since.
No One You Know
@ruemara: It’s probably under the refrigerator with the Lost Fuzzy Thing and a couple of ping-ping balls.
Mnemosyne
@pamelabrown53:
I’ve noticed that tunic tops + leggings are back. That works for my middle-aged body since I still have nice legs. ??
Ruckus
@ruemara:
They look like fun.
Roommate had to put her cat down, cancer, about 6 weeks ago. Cat was about 15 yrs old and looked like a kitten. So after nearly 5 yrs, I’m living cat less again. Little buggers always wanting to sleep on you, near you, pestering you with cuteness………
oatler.
After the Sixties we acted ashamed (“ooh, that skirt is too sixties!”) and after the Seventies we acted ashamed (“ooh those shoes are so seventies!!”) Why is there this massive Soul-Flip that reveres the Eighties? The AV Club site is not where to find the answer to this; it’s their religion.
Miss Bianca
@ruemara: oooohh, so CUTE!! Enjoy taming your feral kitties!
rk
Filth and trash. But they’re white so all’s good.
Amir Khalid
@Montanareddog:
MAD Magazine described the show’s characters thus, in its parody: “They’re born rich, live mean and DIE NASTY.”
Mnemosyne
@Monala:
That’s really bizarre. The whole point of Kaiser in CA is that it’s a closed HMO, so you can only go to their facilities and doctors, but you only have to pay a copayment for visits, no additional bills.
SatanicPanic
@Roger Moore: Adam Schiff is pretty great. Might make a good governor someday.
trollhattan
@Montanareddog:
Had friends who would hate-watch it back in the day, long before the term was invented. Everybody wanted the chick fights. At that time the show was also made under the name “Dallas” and “Falcon Crest.”
geg6
@ruemara:
So adorable! Congratulations, new cat mama!
debbie
@SiubhanDuinne:
No fan, but Ivanka would never overdo the collagen like that.
Mnemosyne
@Mnemosyne:
Goddamnit. Can I please be released from moderation for the crime of mentioning the place your doctor sends you to get drugs?
Roger Moore
@Ruckus:
I don’t think Kaiser was literally modeled after the VA, but they have the same idea of avoiding the split between insurance company and medical provider. Kaiser owns all the medical facilities and employs all the staff*, which cuts out a whole layer of bureaucratic middlemen in the billing and payment departments, together with the whole business of fighting over coding details. It also means patients never get caught up in the dispute. It’s the only organization in our whole healthcare “system” that actually feels like it was designed as a coherent system rather than existing as a cog in a jerry-rigged Rube Goldberg machine.
*For legal reasons, the Doctors are technically employed by Permanente Medical Group, but they are on salary rather than paid by the procedure and Permanente contracts exclusively with Kaiser.
Elizabelle
@Amir Khalid: That’s a wonderful song. Thank you. And now I know about Hound Dog Taylor (and the HouseRockers) too.
Full service blog.
debbie
@ruemara:
Cuties! ?
geg6
@debbie:
I don’t agree. I never would have thought Meg Ryan would do it either. But she did and it’s a disaster.
HeleninEire
“Donald Trump’s first wife”
Compare and contrast.
“Barack Obama’s first wife”
Baud
@HeleninEire:
Or “Baud!’s Two Wives”
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@boatboy_srq: That’s obvious enough, the Clintons are self made, so like Barrack Obama, the Clintons undermine the racists arguement that the 1% are there because of superior breeding. From that point of view Bill Clinton is even worse than Obama to the racists because they can’t argue Bill Clinton got there by being helped by liberal whites.
Brachiator
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Apart from Gavin Newsom, Antonio Villaraigosa and maybe John Chiang, I think that anyone else in the field is wasting their time. But I agree with your point.
prob50
Yes, because as we all know, the “first lady” designation is much like a British royalty title, hence there is no way a “third wife” could ever be more than a pretender to the first lady title.
Now I know what your all thinking, “How would Michelle Obama have dealt with this issue”.
Answer: She would have gracefully and graciously taken a single step around this stinky little pile of dog shit as any sensible person would try to do. But the Trump’s? Oh, no, no real or imagined personal affront is too small or inconsequential to just let pass.
Hey, maybe they could work out some sort of compromise alternative – Melania would function as the first lady, but Ivana would take over the duties and responsibilities when Melania is traveling out of the country or otherwise unavailable. That way the country would never be without a first lady should one be required in a crisis situation.
Betty Cracker
@trollhattan: My sister and I used to faithfully hate-watch Dynasty. Such fun!
Rihilism
@Amir Khalid: sorry, i like this soundtrack better for a Ivana vs Melania battle royale…plus cats!
youtube.com/watch?v=4NJQvswrSPg
Monala
Ivanka has apparently already had a lot of work done.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Ruckus: Kasier is great; one stop medical care, the doctors in my experance are quite good at explaining what is going and their hosplitals are everywere here in Cal, so a five minute drive is quite useful when one is horribly ill.
Miss Bianca
@geg6: Did Angelina Jolie have hers done too, or are hers the natural model that all these other ladies are aping? I saw her in something called “True Women” (1997), the other night, and she’s gorgeous but OMG those lips – they looked like pillows! It was a little bit distracting.
jl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Was a news article that current FLOTUS has taken to the WH garden. I was hoping that might be a sign that she would take a better path. Anyway, time for her to get another batch of school kids out there. But I read that, despite her distaste for being in the limelight, she monitors media for criticism of the Trumpster and alerts him to the outrage.
trollhattan
@Betty Cracker:
Chick fight–drink! (In your case being tender young things, chugging RC Cola of course). :-)
In the dorm we played the “Book ’em, Dano” drinking game with “Hawaii Five-Oh” There were injuries one episode when the line was “Book ’em Dano, murder one, three counts.”
trollhattan
Hey everybody, good news from Facebook as they find a new fact-checking partner: The Weekly Standard.
There, fixed!
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
@Brachiator: Xavier Becerra?
Baud
@trollhattan: Does Elizabeth Warren hate America?
True.
AliceBlue
@Amir Khalid:
Not just jackets. They were in dresses, sweaters, and god help us, even t-shirts.
germy
@Amir Khalid: Doogie and some other TV doctors had a reunion in this Cigna commercial.
Brachiator
@Miss Bianca:
I’ve read that they’re the real thing, but I don’t really keep up with this stuff.
germy
@trollhattan: I’m beginning to think Mr. Zuckerberg isn’t serious.
Baud
@germy: Or he is in fact running for president and is buying off the refs.
Rihilism
@trollhattan: Played “toto” drinking game for Wizard of Oz once when I was a youngster…grew to hate Dorothy after awhile…
Ruckus
@Roger Moore:
Oh I agree. A lot of healthcare systems in the world are run like the VA. Kaiser is the closest thing we have that I know of in this country. I know a few people enrolled in Kaiser and most seem to like it. I’ve visited friends in a Kaiser hospital and I get a real VA feel from that.
JPL
@raven: I had no idea that he was still alive, although I remember him playing for the Giants.
Miss Bianca
@Brachiator: I don’t either, usually, but for some reason on this occasion, Inquiring (read, Shallow) Minds Wanted to Know.
Mnemosyne
@Miss Bianca:
IIRC, hers are the real thing.
Gravenstone
@Roger Moore: He Man in commercials … Teddy Ruxpin back on the market. It truly is a dark hour upon us.
germy
Villago Delenda Est
@trollhattan: Bill Krisol’s rag.
The jokes, they write themselves.
p.a.
@Rihilism: “Frank”, “Oh Frank” by his ex, “Frankie” (double shot) by Jesus Martinez. Hill St Blues drinking game.
Brachiator
@germy:
Yes! That’s the one I saw the other day. Very droll.
Gravenstone
@Brachiator: Supposition is those who now will shy away from a Senate run will aim for the governor seat instead?
raven
@JPL: Ten years ago David Halberstam was killed in a car wreck going to interview Y.A.
germy
Happy Birthday John Lennon.
geg6
@Miss Bianca:
I’m not at all sure about the lips. Everything I’ve ever seen her in shows that she has had extremely full lips for a very long time. First thing I remember seeing her in was an HBO movie called “Gia,” about a 70s model who died young. She was very good in it and simply lovely, with huge, full lips. She may have enhanced what she was naturally gifted with.
pamelabrown53
@Mnemosyne: #69.
My past middle age body is missing the abs of a younger Pamela. Leggings and tunics, leggings and short dresses are my go-to. Plus, they’re comfortable.
Ruckus
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
Well then that beats the VA, at least for me. The nearest VA hospital is 25 LA traffic miles away. For those of you who don’t know what LA traffic miles are, that 25 mile trip, all but 4 miles being freeway, takes anywhere from 1 to 2 hrs. The train/bus takes 1 1/2 hr, and that’s 3 trains and a 2 mile bus ride.
OzarkHillbilly
Over at Vox,
Nonsensical
Rifle
Addiction
Too funny.
PIGL
@Elizabelle: Ivanka may look hatd, hard, hard. But not as hard as your claws though. Ouch! Also, too, meeooowwww.
Miss Bianca
@germy: I was thinking about that today, as well – somehow, I always remember John Lennon’s birthday. But he was my favorite Beatle, sigh, so of course I would, I guess!
Mnemosyne
@pamelabrown53:
I’m on the J. Jill mailing list now that I’m middle-aged, and it’s all tunics with leggings, tunics with pencil skirts and opaque tights, and dresses with leggings or tights. Obviously, they know their customer base. ?
germy
@Miss Bianca: I remember from his introduction to his first book, “In His Own Write”
Amir Khalid
@OzarkHillbilly:
Let’s make that their new full name.
Shana
@Patricia Kayden: That statement sure didn’t sound like Melania. I’m sure it was written for her, probably with Trump helping.
raven
@bystander: I don’t buy that.
PIGL
@trollhattan: we used to get really stoned and then hate watch the old time gospel hour.
Brachiator
@Formerly disgruntled in Oregon:
Nice guy. Too bland.
pamelabrown53
@Brachiator: re: Angelonie’s lips. Her RWNJ, Jon Voight, has fat lips. Plus, when I look back to her first film (that I’m aware) “Girl Interrupted”, her lips were amazingly luscious.
Spanky
@ruemara: I SQWEE! in your general direction.
germy
An angle I hadn’t considered:
raven
raven
@pamelabrown53: I’d like to give his fascist ass a fat lip.
bemused senior
@Roger Moore: I recently joined Kaiser under their Medicare Advantage and I love it. I chose it so I wouldn’t end up bankrupting my family if I get a serious condition requiring hospitalization. But I am discovering a lot else to like. E.g. no copay for seeing your doc via a televisit. And the people were universally helpful when I went for my lab tests prior to my physical.
GregB
This is the first reality show that will end in a nuclear conflagration.
Great job America.
Betty Cracker
@germy: Happy birthday also to my late mom — never knew she and Lennon shared a birthday. She would be in her 70s now, which would have pissed her off (though obviously preferable to the alternative).
Rihilism
@PIGL: Used to get baked and watch the Lawrence Welk Show. It was HYSTERICAL!
Betty Cracker
@raven: He sure is a dickhead, isn’t he?
raven
@Betty Cracker: What an asshole. And to have played Ron Kovic and Pat Conroy is beyond belief.
raven
@Rihilism: I used to get baked and watch the test pattern!
germy
@Rihilism: Do you remember when they did “One Toke Over The Line”?
One of the “newer songs” they called it.
Barbara
@raven: Mitchell most likely had a different view of free love after feeling like she was forced to give up her child for adoption after being let down by the baby’s father and then the husband who agreed and then disagreed to help raise her.
raven
@germy: Brewer and Shipley. There was a whole thread about some fancy painting in the Art Institute that was all dots. Tarkio Road was the first time I’d heard of the technique!
amygdala
@Roger Moore: Kaiser, as a staff-model nonprofit HMO, resembles the VA in the ways you outlined. Additionally, like the VA, they implemented electronic health records intelligently and long before the ACA made it mandatory. So it works, and as a consequence, Kaiser in California does useful, generalizable clinical research, in addition to providing quality care.
Regarding the criticism of Kaiser in Washington, I’ve heard this about Colorado and the middle Atlantic, too. I’m not sure why it has been less successful than in California. Maybe because Kaiser has been in California for so long and have been able to iron out the kinks better than in markets where they are newer. But I think it’s a real thing, that it works better in California than it has in other parts of the country.
Barbara
@germy: Of course Ivana was joking. Whatever you can say about Ivana, I would assume that she has at least 20 IQ points more than Melania. The whole thing is not worth the time of day we are giving it. I am feeling increasingly annoyed about being prompted to react to every stupid stunt pulled by this crowd. They are no better than the Kardashians, who are more or less honest about their status as professional attention whores.
AliceBlue
@raven:
I believe Tom Cruise starred in the Ron Kovic movie.
JPL
OT A morning news anchor left his job a month ago and over the weekend announced he is running for the 6th district. He spoke to Ossoff last week and I have no idea whether or not Ossoff is going to run again. The advantage is that he lives in the district, has name recognition and some money. youtube.com/watch?time_continue=44&v=1UL0jn4VtH8
What I noticed during the interview was he attacked Handel’s my way or the highway approach. Ossoff did not attack her enough, imo.
Yutsano
Happy Bartolomé Day y’all!
raven
@AliceBlue: Born on the Fourth of July. Voight was in Coming Home which was inspired by Ron.
Rihilism
@germy: Don’t remember that one but not surprised. They could take any song and turn it into pablum, oblivious to the songs content and context. Got really awkward to watch, though, when, after performing one of his signature tap routines, Lawrence told Arthur Duncan he was “a credit to his people”…
trollhattan
@Barbara:
It was at least twenty years between my first hearing “Little Green” and learning the song’s actual subject, which reeeeeeally threw it into a different light. So tragic.
Mike in NC
Alexandra Petri at the Washington Post lists several other protests that Mike Pence is planning, including: “Fly across the country to San Francisco to squint angrily at a bar with a rainbow flag. Insist he had something else to do in town that justified all this travel but refuse to say what it is.”
Matt McIrvin
@trollhattan: I was just thinking that “The Good Place” could not have gotten on broadcast TV even ten years ago. (I remember some short-lived old shows or failed pilots with a similar premise, and Season 1’s Big Twist was a 1960 Twilight Zone episode, but the details… no.)
Mike J
@Yutsano: Thought of you reading yesterday’s paper. The Times, about the Vegas shooter: “He went to work for the I.R.S. because he thought that’s where the money was, but it turned out the money wasn’t there,”
Yutsano
@JPL:
If Ossoff has anything resembling a brain in his head he shouldn’t. Kaple is already making some good interesting noises.
@Mike J: Uhh…GS pay is mostly solid middle class but you ain’t gonna get rich on it. Unless he was thinking of skimming, which is possible but way too easy to get busted.
germy
@Mike J: He bought houses and rented them out. I wonder if his former tenants are feeling weird since learning how skilled he was (beside his affinity for firearms) with video surveillance?
JPL
@Yutsano: In a 60/40 district, Ossoff came close, which was remarkable to me. If you have a candidate who lives in the district, has a compelling message and can ding Handel, it’s possible. It would depend on how he appeals to DeKalb county though.
low-tech cyclist
And Marla Maples watching via pay-per-view from as far away as possible, munching popcorn, rooting for injuries, and thanking the Lord every night that her marriage to the Orange Abomination was brief and long ago.
Yutsano
@JPL: His name recognition will be hard for Handel to circumvent. He’s also slightly older and better established than Ossoff was in the district as well. It also sounds like he’s got some fire against her. And the story of the kids is a good one. I think throwing him scratch will be smart money.
Baud
@JPL:
@Yutsano:
Glad to hear it.
Shana
@debbie: Maybe not collagen, but I strongly suspect that Ivanka has had her boobs done. Almost no one that thin has boobs that big naturally.
Steeplejack (phone)
@raven:
Source?
Elizabelle
@Shana: Monala put up a link on Ivanka through the years. BeautyEditor: Ivanka Trump, before and after. From 2014, Celebrity Apprentice time, before we knew what other horrors the Trumps had in store for us.
Rhinoplasty (at least one) and a boob job. Photos taken over time. Ivanka has always been beautiful and photogenic, but she enhanced some features.
One picture of young The Donald, in a tux with his rosebud lips, holding Ivanka’s arms, kind of inside her dress. A little creepy.
Gin & Tonic
I’m pretty excited about going to see the new Blade Runner movie tonight.
ruemara
Hey, thanks for the welcome for my furry pals. They are adopted, not sibs but they were found in the same area and fostered together. The names are temporary until they develop a bit more and show who they are. One last shot of Sirrah Surprise.
JPL
@Yutsano: Which I didn’t last time, and didn’t have to. I normally just volunteer for local politics which is non-partisan, but might have to change my mind. National politics never enter into our volunteer meetings, until today. Someone mentioned Ossoff’s outside money, and I said maybe you better look closer and see where Handel’s money was coming from. The person running the meeting is a like a good elementary teacher, and we both received the stare. lol
Steeplejack (phone)
@Elizabelle:
There’s one picture with that article where Ivanka looks way too much like Melania. Just sayin’.
Shana
@raven: I believe there’s a musical about that…. Something about George? And Sunday? Help me out here. (Sarcasm font)
Mary G
@ruemara: @ruemara: Both so cute!
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@amygdala:
Kastier was the victim of a very successful slander campaign in the 80s when it was accused of being the Wallmart of health care.
raven
@Steeplejack (phone): songfacts.com/detail.php?id=1612
Gin & Tonic
@Mnemosyne:
Pics or GTFO.
NotMax
@Gin & Tonic
Holding out for Dynasty 2049.
;)
debbie
@geg6:
That was a real shocker, to be honest.
raven
@Shana: It’s not sarcastic at all, I never heard of any of this until the BJ thread. We were in Chicago about 10 years ago and we wandered into this free show at the new concert facility. It was a huge Sondheim deal with him and all these (I assume) famous people who had been in his musicals. I didn’t have a clue.
Patricia Kayden
@ruemara: They are truly adorable!! Too darn cute. Of course, you all have lost your dang minds. I’m losing mine just looking at those kitties.
Shana
@raven: Did you enjoy it? I’m a huge Sondheim fan. Just saw A Little Night Music on Saturday.
zhena gogolia
@ruemara:
You will love them. There’s just something about ferals. We’re at the end of the road with ours, and they have been the best.
chris
To the surprise of no one at all shitgibbon cheats at golf.
schrodingers_cat
@ruemara: I is dead from the cute.
Ruviana
@pamelabrown53: I’ve been watching Youtube clips from “Stop Making Sense” on an endless loop, I’m ready #bigsuit.
raven
@Shana: Like I said, I didn’t much have a clue. I do have a couple of pictures. I remember years ago going to see “Into the Woods” right after I saw “Farewell My Concubine” and thinking see two things where people got their fingers (or toes) chopped off was pretty weird.
Patricia Kayden
@Elizabelle: Sadly, after what just came out about Weinstein, I doubt Iger has a chance in hell to win the primaries. I don’t think Democrats are as awed by entertainers becoming politicians as Republicans are.
Spanky
@ruemara: There’s some longhair in there. Master Surprise (a fine name as-is) is going to be a handsome boy.
Brachiator
@Gravenstone:
Already a ton of people running for governor. A few dozen more will make things more fun.
Elizabelle
@Steeplejack (phone): Which one? I saw a resemblance to Faith Hill in a few.
Loved the writer’s cattiness, too, in photo caption WRT the boob job. Reminding us that Victoria Beckham (Posh Spice) had big boobs too at the time — it was in style — but she’d had the implants removed. Get a clue, Ivanka. LOL.
Anyhoo, the Donald has a type.
Gin & Tonic
@Elizabelle:
Well, to be fair, I’m not ruling out a 2020 presidential bid either. I know that’s a sacrilege here in Baud! country, but a man’s gotta keep his options open.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Oh, now I see why Trump is throwing a tantrum today. Wienstien firing – people are comparing Weinstein’s behavior to Trump’s and the fact that the Left turned on Weinstein puts a lot of pressure on Conservatives if they care going to keep their Protectures of the Public Morality title.
MomSense
@ruemara:
I’m in love. Sooo cute.
Brachiator
@pamelabrown53:
I’m a straight guy (not that there’s anything wrong with that), but I think that one could describe the young Jon Voight’s lips in, say, “Midnight Cowboy,” as amazingly luscious.
Also, saw a baby picture of Angelina via google images, and she was a fat lip baby.
ruemara
@zhena gogolia: Oh, I am familiar with the joy of rescues. Pretty much all my cats have been rescues.
@Spanky: definitely. Both of them promise to be medium or long haired. But their temperaments were what charmed me.
Just One More Canuck
@p.a.:”Hi Bob” watching the Bob Newhart show
PIGL
@raven: In my northern home town, in the late 70s, drugs so good we didn’t have.
raven
@PIGL: A simple twist of fate. . .
J R in WV
@ruemara:
They are so so cute. Esp the little Tortie, I bet she grows up to be a real hell raiser, right up your alley!!
You are so lucky to have little kittehs like that!
Keep us posted with photos and stories about them!!
J R in WV
@Amir Khalid:
Just NOPE! Not at all. Blue jeans or gray suits with white shirt & a somewhat colorful tie.
Downpuppy
@trollhattan: I never watched Falcon Crest, but according to IMDB every single actor in Hollywood appeared on it.
Thought about it with the news today about the Napa/Sonoma fires.
If a Tree Falls
Ah, Dynasty. I used to get drunk on the rum I bought to celebrate the 2008 election and watch it on rented dvds with my roommates. I heard a reference to it in Prince’s “Kiss” (“You don’t have to watch Dynasty/ To have an attitude”) and wondered what that was all about. Catfights and adultery mostly, with occasional side trips involving vengeful figures from the past and insanity. It says something for the state of 80’s TV that this was once the number one rated show on American television. It’s fun to watch and make fun of though, even if you happen to be three guys in their thirties and forties.
barb 2
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
toxic families — one can stay in the family and fight or one can get as far away as possible. There are a lot of toxic families — parents who use the chaos style of parenting. If one of the kids is naturally empathetic — the family will kill that “bad” character trait.
Ivana was a real bitch of a boss when she ran one of the three Atlantic City casinos owned by her husband THE shitgibbon. She is no lady and not a nice person — very much like the shitgibbon.
Gravenstone
@Brachiator: Sadly, no Gary Coleman this go around.
Steeplejack
@Elizabelle:
The one from 2005. she looks like a mythical young Melania—super high cheekbones, almost slitted eyes.
(Late back to the thread.)
Steeplejack
@Brachiator:
Little-known fact: Fat Lip Baby is also an excellent collection of minor Scott Joplin compositions.
workworkwork
@Ruckus: Never been to a VA, but I’m with Kaiser here in Colorado. I love it.