Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

We’ll be taking my thoughts and prayers to the ballot box.

But frankly mr. cole, I’ll be happier when you get back to telling us to go fuck ourselves.

No offense, but this thread hasn’t been about you for quite a while.

Jack be nimble, jack be quick, hurry up and indict this prick.

Reality always lies in wait for … Democrats.

Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.

I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.

I’d hate to be the candidate who lost to this guy.

You can’t attract Republican voters. You can only out organize them.

There is one struggling party in US right now, and it’s not the Democrats.

When we show up, we win.

I didn’t have alien invasion on my 2023 BINGO card.

You know it’s bad when the Project 2025 people have to create training videos on “How To Be Normal”.

They’re not red states to be hated; they are voter suppression states to be fixed.

Sitting here in limbo waiting for the dice to roll

Democrats have delivered the Square Deal, the New Deal, the Fair Deal, and now… the Big Joe Biden Deal.

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.

Democrats are back in array!

Their freedom requires your slavery.

It’s a doggy dog world.

The media handbook says “controversial” is the most negative description that can be used for a Republican.

I desperately hope that, yet again, I am wrong.

Meanwhile over at truth Social, the former president is busy confessing to crimes.

Wow, you are pre-disappointed. How surprising.

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Bad bird puns open thread?

Or we could discuss what an utterly graceless, classless, clueless, embarrassing clown the president is:

Foul or fowl — your choice.

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  4. 4.

    hueyplong

    Because Trump would only do something if it garnered him acclaim or fulsome thanks.

    And if he thinks he’s all that in the field of foreign relations for this UCLA thing, then the best ever in American history is Jesse Jackson. We know how much Trump likes being compared unfavorably to a POC.

  5. 5.

    Bonnie

    The president* is a utterly graceless, classless, clueless, embarrassing clown and a poor excuse for a human being.

  6. 6.

    trollhattan

    If Trump ends up making me sympathetic to LaVar Ball then he really is history’s worst monster.

  7. 7.

    Corner Stone

    Personally rooting for injuries. But suggesting it’s ok to leave American citizens in a foreign jail. What a fucking scumbag.

  10. 10.

    James E. Powell

    I expect everyone will flock to this thread, some as a lark, others just to gander. The bad puns will be hard to swallow

  11. 11.

    Corner Stone

    Also too. Why do I see so many left-ish people on twitter asking what happened to Maria Bartiromo? She’s been cray AF for years now. They missed this until now?

  19. 19.

    Mike in NC

    Here’s hoping that Monday sees a fresh flock of indictments coming down from Mr. Mueller’s task force.

  21. 21.

    Steeplejack

    I’m surprised it didn’t get more coverage last week—not on the news shows, but on the pundit shows—but on the plane back from Asia Trump was rhapsodizing to the press about the deal he struck with Xi to rescue the basketball players. He was almost euphoric. That’s what he thinks presidentin’ is, or should be: two big-ballin’, shot-callin’ masters of the universe in a room, face to face, mano a mano, doin’ deals! No pesky legislature, no working for consensus, no organized strategy—just deals, baby!

    And all for something that will be barely a footnote in history. Sad!

  24. 24.

    Steeplejack

    @Corner Stone:

    As she gets older the Money Honey goggles become less effective.

    Also, it’s easier to hide the cray when you’re just calling balls and strikes on one of the business/​market channels.

  25. 25.

    sharl

    Non-bird news, from Pennsylvania’s 18th Congressional District, located at the Appalachian and largely rural southwest corner of the state. The Dems had a convention today to choose their candidate for the March 13 special election, made necessary by the “pro-life” incumbent behaving in a very unapproved manner.

    Like 2016’s four special House elections, which were held to replace Republicans who joined the Trump administration, the race in Pennsylvania’s 18th District will take place on Trump-friendly turf. The president won 58.1 percent of the vote in the district, a stretch of rural areas around Pittsburgh that had been drawn by Republicans in 2011 to favor (Tim) Murphy, who resigned after advising a woman with whom he had an extramarital affair to get an abortion.

    From this list of 5 candidates (from Weigel’s twitter), Conor Lamb won:

    Cheat sheet for #PA18 Dem nomination:

    Conor Lamb – marine vet/attorney w some party support and local family name
    Pam Iovino – Navy vet, moderate, with most $
    Gina Cerilli – conservative county commissioner
    Mike Crossey – ex teachers union head
    Bob Solomon – Berniecrat

    Asked local Dems in #PA18 which national figures could actually help in this southwest PA special election if they visited. Answer: Jason Kander, Joe Biden, Joe Kennedy III— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) November 19, 2017

    So I guess that’s the next national political thing – at least it’s the only thing I know of – after the December AL Senate election.

  30. 30.

    oldgold

    Hmm, because of something LaVar Ball says, his son should be left in a foreign prison. Worse, 2 young men, who are unrelated to LaVar Ball, should be left in a foreign prison.

    The person who pushes this bizarro ‘logic’ has access to the nuclear football!

  31. 31.

    Baud

    @sharl:

    Why does it seem that Weigel is the only person covering the details of Democratic politics? I’d rather follow a Democratic reporter.

  32. 32.

    Schlemazel

    I’ll save everyone the trouble of trying to make bad puns – this is the winner:
    It was April the forty-first
    Being a quadruple leap year
    I was driving in downtown Atlantis
    My Barracuda was in the shop
    So I was in a rented Stingray
    And it was overheating

    So I pulled into a Shell Station
    They said I’d blown a seal
    I said, “Fix the damn thing
    And leave my private life out of it
    Okay pal?”

    While they were doing that
    I walked over to a place called the Oyster Bar, a real dive
    But I knew the owner
    He used to play for the Dolphins
    I said “Hi Gil”
    You have to yell, he’s hard of herring

    Think I had a wet dream
    Cruisin’ thru the Gulf Stream
    Ooh Ooh Ooh Ooh
    Wet dream

    Gil was also down on his luck
    Fact is he was barely keeping his head below water
    I bellied up to the sandbar
    He poured me the usual

    Rusty snail, hold the grunion
    Shaken not stirred
    With a peanut butter and jellyfish sandwich on the side
    Heavy on the mako

    I slipped him a fin
    On porpoise
    I was feeling good
    I even dropped a sand dollar in the box for Jerry’s squids
    For the halibut

    Well the place was crowded
    We were packed in like sardines
    They were all there to listen to the big band sounds of Tommy Dorsal
    What sole

    Tommy was rockin’ the place with a very popular tuna
    Salmon Chanted Evening
    And the stage was surrounded by screaming groupers
    Probably there to see the bass player

    One of them was this cute little yellowtail
    And she’s giving me the eye
    So I figured this is my chance for a little fun
    You know, piece of Pisces

    But she said things I just couldn’t fathom
    She was too deep, seemed to be under a lot of pressure
    Boy, could she drink
    She drank like a…
    She drank a lot

    I said “What’s your sign”
    She said “Aquarium”
    I said “Great, let’s get tanked”

    Think I had a wet dream
    Cruisin’ thru the Gulf Stream
    Ooh Ooh Ooh Ooh
    Wet dream

    I invited her to my place for a midnight bait
    I said “Come on baby, it’ll only take a few minnows”
    She threw me that same old line
    “Not tonight, I gotta haddock”

    And she wasn’t kidding either
    Cause in came the biggest, meanest looking haddock
    I’d ever seen come down the pike
    He was covered with mussels

    He came over to me and said
    “Listen, shrimp, don’t you come trollin’ around here”
    What a crab
    This guy was steamed
    I could see the anchor in his eyes

    I turned to him, I said
    “A-balone, you’re just being shellfish”
    Well, I knew it was going to be trouble and so did Gil
    ‘Cause he was already on the phone to the cods

    The haddock hits me with a sucker punch
    I catch him with a left hook
    He eels over
    It was a fluke but there he was
    Lying on the deck, flat as a mackerel
    Kelpless

    I said “Forget the cods Gil
    This guy’s gonna need a sturgeon”
    Well, the yellowtail was impressed with the way I landed her boyfriend
    She came over to me, she said
    “Hey, big boy, you’re really a game fish
    What’s your name”
    I said “Marlin”

    Think I had a wet dream
    Cruisin’ thru the Gulf Stream
    Ooh Ooh Ooh Ooh
    Wet dream

    Well, from then on we had a whale of a time
    I took her to dinner, I took her to dance
    I bought her a bouquet of flounders
    And then I went home with her
    And what did I get for my trouble
    A case of the clams

  33. 33.

    smintheus

    Shorter Ross Douthat [no link because Douthat]: “I could get behind a guy who covered up for rapists at the university he ran.”

  38. 38.

    feebog

    This tweet embodies everything I loath about Trumpov. Petty. Ungracious. Morally adrift. Thin skinned.

  40. 40.

    sharl

    @Baud: There probably were other reporters, but IMO Weigel is a pretty good reporter, and he’s usually pretty generous about providing links to the twitter feed of other reporters covering a political event, whether he’s there or not. (Though I don’t recall seeing any references to other reporters today.)

    His recent (apparent) conversion to a Bernie/DSA-favoring person – very strange, considering where he started out politically – gets him in trouble occasionally, but IMO he’s usually pretty good about staying on the straight path where his reporting is concerned. But as in all such matters, YMMV (and probably does, for many).

    ETA: I don’t know if Weigel’s Bernie/DSA thing is a professional decision (i.e., that’s where he and/or his editors think the interesting stories will be for the near future) or whether his personal politics have changed. Whatever…

  43. 43.

    swiftfox

    @Corner Stone: Been watching CNBC since 94; they didn’t let their hosts go nuts until they started prepping to compete with Fox Business. Kernan and Caruso-Cabrera are totally unmoored. The smart ones, like Ron Insana, left.

  45. 45.

    Cacti

    It’s beyond sad that a 71 year old man needs to fish for validation from 20-year olds.

    And speaking of fishing, I caught a 25 inch salmon today! Woot, woot!

  47. 47.

    Aleta

    @Steeplejack: The only two reasons to make a deal are to get money or good press. Mar the PR and the whole point of the deal is ruined. “Should have left them there.”

  50. 50.

    Steeplejack

    @swiftfox:

    I thought Bartiromo got promoted to “regular” cable news, and she does have a Sunday show on Fox News, but the Google tells me she’s also still on Fox Business Network. Does that have the same relation to other business channels that Fox News has to other news channels, or is it legit?

  54. 54.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Corner Stone: @smintheus: What is Ken Starr running for?

    (Baptist) Heaven’s Hall Monitor, telling God that the Irish are drinking and singing and the Italians are putting cheese in the food again

  55. 55.

    JMG

    Steve Kerr, coach of the Warriors, had the perfect comment on LaVar Ball and Trump in his pregame press conference: “Is there any way you guys could stop covering both of them? Is that possible?

  56. 56.

    Mary G

    @Steeplejack: It is regular Fox News, but crazier. Way to the right, and all about people keeping their own money, and the colored people who are trying to take it away. (They don’t actually say colored people, but they imply it.)

  62. 62.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @sylvania: trump is bringing both sides together, though

    Charles P. Pierce‏Verified account
    My interpretation of the let-em-rot tweet? Something very bad is about to break.

    Rick Wilson‏Verified account
    As hideous as Trump’s statement is, I suspect he’s nervous about something other then LeVar.

    Maybe Ivanka has asked Vera Wang for some ideas about tailored orange jumpsuits for spring, just the right tone for pale and bleached

  65. 65.

    Sab

    @Steeplejack: When Faux Business News started up a lot of competent business journalist women had to decide if they were willing to take more pay in exchange for wearing way toof much eye makeup and extremely revealing clothes. Some like Margaret Brennan chose personal integrity and wardrobe decency. Ditto Stephanie Ruble. Maria Bartiromo chose the bucks. Ironically, most of the decent ladies in the financial press are and have always been Republicans. They haven’t changed. Their voters have gone nuts.

  70. 70.

    chopper

    @Baud:

    honestly I thought I was quacking up for a second. you’d think people on a left wing site such as this would get the joke.

  71. 71.

    Corner Stone

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I’m really tired of everyone who repeats this kind of BS. Trump’s nervous, Trump’s sweating it, Trump is breaking down ahead of something really, really, super bad. Believe me.
    Trump is just a fucking nutjob, Fin.

  74. 74.

    NotMax

    The rancid cheese stands alone.

    The chief whip of Zimbabwe’s ruling party says “I don’t see us failing to proceed with the impeachment” of President Robert Mugabe.

    Told by the party’s Central Committee to step down by midday Monday or face impeachment, Mugabe baffled the country Sunday night with an address on state-run television that did not announce his resignation. Source

  76. 76.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    The Dems have a candidate in the reddish PA district where the “pro-life” R-critter resigned when his mistress told everybody he told her to get an abortion

    Dave Weigel‏Verified account
    Cheat sheet for #PA18 Dem nomination:
    Conor Lamb – marine vet/attorney w some party support and local family name
    Pam Iovino – Navy vet, moderate, with most $
    Gina Cerilli – conservative county commissioner
    Mike Crossey – ex teachers union head
    Bob Solomon – Berniecrat

    ROUND ONE: Lamb 225, Cerilli 153, Iovino 90. Four candidates eliminated. Lamb needs 52 votes to clinch.

    Chris Potter‏Verified account
    Vote breakdown as follows: Conor Lamb won 319 votes, Gina Cerilli 152, Pam Iovino 74. Total 545 cast.

    vote by district Dem convention– Cerilli was “profile”, pro-gun candidate

  77. 77.

    NotMax

    For the WTF Lite file: Snub warfare.

    The North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (Nato) has taken “disciplinary action” against an individual over an incident in which Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the country’s modern founder Mustafa Kemal Ataturk were portrayed as enemies, the alliance’s secretary general has said.

    The incident happened during a Nato military exercise in the southern Norwegian city of Stavanger and resulted in Ankara withdrawing its 40 troops last week. Source

  82. 82.

    NotMax

    FYI.

    For the first time in the history of Pakistan, a member of the transgender community has been appointed by the International Federation of Red Cross, the Red Crescent Societies, and the Pakistan Red Crescent (PRC) as an ambassador.

    PRC youth and volunteer officer Misbah Mushtaq said that She Male Association for Fundamental Rights (SAFFAR) president Nadeem Kashish had been appointed an ambassador to educate the trans-community to cope with natural calamities and emergencies. Source

  83. 83.

    JMG

    @sharl: Weigel was the first national reporter to get inside the Tea Party. Rand Paul still answers his calls. I think he specializes in looking for outsiders, but as far as I can tell he plays it straight. It’d be dumb to pretend Bernie isn’t important. Question is, how important?

  85. 85.

    JMG

    Check the ads on Fox Business sometime. The whole concept is that here’s a bunch of rubes with money dumb enough to fall for any scam. Buy gold! Triple reverse mortgages! And so on.

  89. 89.

    BBA

    @JMG: That’s only like half the ads on CNBC, because for some reason people who are actually in the finance biz watch it. Generally on mute, in the background.

  91. 91.

    NotMax

    @Steeplejack

    For a long time, Fox Business Channel’s audience ratings were often an asterisk – essentially too low to measure. Haven’t checked recently but have heard no scuttlebutt otherwise.

    Particularly recall coming across a report of the total national audience for their highest rated program: 23,000.

    The Hemorrhoid Channel pulls in more viewers.

  92. 92.

    RandomMonster

    Maybe this just started as a flight of fancy, but I’m hoping Betty makes a regular thing of pun-threads, because this post is a real hoot.

  94. 94.

    Mary G

    He’s back:

    Sen. Jeff Flake(y), who is unelectable in the Great State of Arizona (quit race, anemic polls) was caught (purposely) on “mike” saying bad things about your favorite President. He’ll be a NO on tax cuts because his political career anyway is “toast.”— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 19, 2017

    The Russian bots that used to defend him aren’t around and most people in the replies are making fun of him and explaining the difference between mike and mic.

  95. 95.

    Bruuuuce

    I’m sure that suggesting we abandon US citizens is now GOP policy, but I’d bet it plays poorly in the Pentagon, especially after Bowe Bergdahl. That was done correctly, bringing him home as priority, and _then_ court-martialing him for his actions, rather than allowing him to rot in foreign hands.

    On a whole other note, I give you today’s Designated Liar, Mick Mulvaney: Trump “will not sign a bill that raises taxes on the middle class. Period.”

  96. 96.

    zhena gogolia

    I just love my husband. I was reading him the profile of J-Lo and A-Rod from Vanity Fair, and when I got to the part where on their first date Rodriguez texted Jennifer as she was coming back from the ladies’ room, “You look sexy AF,” I asked him, “Do you know what that means?” He said, “Air Force? I didn’t know J-Lo was in the Air Force.”

  97. 97.

    Corner Stone

    @NotMax:

    The Hemorrhoid Channel pulls in more viewers.

    Now that’s a channel I could get behind! As long ass they don’t talk too much about the bubble we’re in!

  98. 98.

    Mary G

    And another just now. He’s finally learned to thread tweets!

    Shoplifting is a very big deal in China, as it should be (5-10 years in jail), but not to father LaVar. Should have gotten his son out during my next trip to China instead. China told them why they were released. Very ungrateful!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 19, 2017

    Those people are so ungrateful!

  103. 103.

    SiubhanDuinne

    B. Cracker’s “A tern for the worse”
    Demands punny responses in verse.
    Rhyming the words
    Of Floridian birds
    Is truly a gift — and a curse.

  104. 104.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Mary G: Shoplifting is a very big deal in China, as it should be (5-10 years in jail),

    as it should be… I wonder what his old pal Rudi G thinks about 5 to 10 for shoplifting?

    @Baud: that’s what Cole said on twitter. I guess he changed his mind

  105. 105.

    (((CassandraLeo)))

    @NotMax: Their ratings are pretty bad, but the 23,000 figure seems difficult for me to believe. (I’m in TV ratings, so I have a general sense of what channels people watch.) CNBC definitely gets more viewers by far. Bloomberg might also, though that would be closer (then again, FBN is probably carried on way more cable packages, so it’s got a handicap).

  107. 107.

    Gravenstone

    @Mary G: I know he’s being an ass, because Trump. But if Flake really is a ‘no’, then that’s it for their buffer. With Johnson also a ‘no’, republicans can’t suffer any more losses or tax deformation dies a deservedly ignominious death.

  111. 111.

    clay

    @Mary G: I… don’t get it? He DOES know the margins in the Senate… doesn’t he? That he can only afford to lose two R votes? He should be kissing Flake’s ass with tongue, not insulting him.

    How in the hell did this guy ever make any business agreements at all?

  113. 113.

    Bruuuuce

    @clay: He was in construction, real estate, and casinos. I have no doubt that it was his silent partners who enforced whatever deals he stipulated. Family business, after all.

  114. 114.

    Matt McIrvin

    Trump really should start dressing like Louis XIV; he’s got the attitude down. Justice, punishment, foreign relations and the State are all about him, right?

  115. 115.

    Mary G

    @Gravenstone: Johnson was against the ACA repeal before he voted for it, so I’m not counting on him. But somebody on twitter showed the welcomes Murkowski & Collins got in their home airports – standing ovations, hugs & cheers for their no votes, and I am pretty sure they won’t want to throw that away this time. If Corker really means it about not increasing the deficit, the bill is “toast” as Twitler says, but I am not holding my breath.

  118. 118.

    clay

    @germy: I haven’t followed all of the latest, but it seemed that there’s a non-zero chance the whole Frankin thing is a right-wing hit job. Have there been any new decelopments?

  123. 123.

    Mary G

    This is a fabulous thread defending the Clintons:

    People forget what a huge part of the editorial conversation that classism about Clinton was: "he got scholarships to college""he has black friends" "he likes fat women" "he tried to marry up"–all because he was our first poor POTUS since Lincoln and still the only one.— Victoria Brownworth (@VABVOX) November 19, 2017

    and

    It's temping to re-write history to fit our current narratives. But the reality is, no other Democrat had broken the GOP grip on the WH in years except Bill Clinton and no woman in 240yrs was able to break the misogynist stranglehold on the nomination for POTUS except Hillary.— Victoria Brownworth (@VABVOX) November 19, 2017

  124. 124.

    dmsilev

    @Matt McIrvin: Louis XIV at least built palaces that were worth keeping around even after the Bourbons were tossed aside. Could you imagine some future war ending with the Treaty of Mar-a-Lago?

  127. 127.

    hueyplong

    Y’all will be hearing from counsel for the descendants of Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette. Facing the guillotine is a far, far easier thing to endure than a comparison to Trump.

  128. 128.

    germy

    @clay:

    A Los Angeles radio station is pushing back on reports that former Trump campaign adviser Roger Stone appeared to know sexual misconduct allegations involving Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) were coming hours before they were made public.

    In a statement Friday, KABC said a “very small group” of employees discussed the best day for host Leeann Tweeden to come forward

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/360921-la-radio-station-we-tipped-off-news-partners-before-publishing

  131. 131.

    Mary G

    @smintheus: I rarely agree with Villago, but I’ll make an exception for the Trump regime & vote for tumbrels.

    He’s just put out another tweet that makes no sense at all. One of the things that makes me hate him is the improper capitalization and quote marks at random:

    Big-game trophy decision will be announced next week but will be very hard pressed to change my mind that this horror show in any way helps conservation of Elephants or any other animal.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 19, 2017

  132. 132.

    NotMax

    @dmsilev

    It’s difficult to believe today when gazing at the gleaming golden palace, but life at Versailles was actually quite dirty. There were no bathrooms as we would know them. Courtiers and royalty used decorative commodes in each room, while commoners simply relieved themselves in the hallways or stairwells. No one bothered to house-train the royal dogs, and servants did not consider cleaning up after them to be part of their job description. The constantly-altered chimneys did not draw well, so everything inside was covered with soot. The filth and disorder at Versailles during the ancient regime were noted in many records of the time. Source

  133. 133.

    sukabi

    @Mary G: it’s been added to a bunch, and YES it’s a good look back at the Clinton period.

    For those of us that were paying attention back then, it’s hard to forget that there was talk about having Clinton present his pen!s in a line-up to prove…something something….

  136. 136.

    NotMax

    @sukabi

    But will it be posthumously be put on display at the Smithsonian?

    Could be a (hydraulically enhanced) version on Old Faithful.

    ;)

  138. 138.

    smintheus

    @germy: Didn’t Tweeden claim that she made a spur of the moment decision on a live broadcast to make allegations about Franken? Seems KABC is saying she lied about that.

  139. 139.

    sukabi

    @NotMax: well, whatever it’s disposition, it won’t need a magnifying glass and tweezers to see it, unlike the current WH occupants’.

  140. 140.

    martian

    @clay: No other women have come forward. The tweet from someone claiming to be the photographer and accusing Tweeden of setting up the gag herself has been debunked. People are doing the amateur detective thing everywhere, but nothing new has been turned up really.

  142. 142.

    tobie

    @germy: I don’t get this at all. Roger Stone tweeted about Franken getting his just desserts the night before the allegations were made. Someone must have told him something was coming down the pike. How could he have anticipated this otherwise? This is the weirdest defense I’ve seen.

  144. 144.

    Felonius Monk

    @sukabi:

    well, whatever it’s disposition, it won’t need a magnifying glass and tweezers to see it, unlike the current WH occupants’.

    That is certainly the long and the short of it.

  145. 145.

    Patricia Kayden

    @NotMax: I’m so glad they’ve finally forced him out. What makes him think he’s so special that he deserves to be head of state for 37 years!! That’s almost my entire life.

  148. 148.

    martian

    @germy: I’m not following their reasoning on how that’s “pushback”. Stone’s tweet happened regardless of whether they claim not to be the sources. He can’t resist tipping off targets so he can posture as an evil mastermind, fortunately.

  149. 149.

    germy

    @smintheus: They’re all a bunch of right wing assholes who hoped Franken would melt down and behave like Moore. They hoped he’d go ballistic and attack them.

    Instead he issued an apology and demanded an investigation of himself.

    And they went… “Dammit!”

    Tweeden was probably taken aback by his response. They can’t conceive of anyone taking the higher ground. She finally said she accepted his apology and didn’t want him to resign. I bet she thought he’d lash out, and had prepared herself for a counterattack.

  151. 151.

    germy

    @(((CassandraLeo))):

    KABC presumably can’t know if any of the people who were in on the discussion told anyone else about it.

    Says a lot about the sort of people they associate with, that Stone was in the loop with them.

  152. 152.

    tobie

    @germy: My sentiments exactly. What the head of KABC Nathan D. Baker does say is that the staff coordinated with other news sources about the content of the story and the timing for releasing it, so leaks are presumably possible in multiple places.

  153. 153.

    Cheryl Rofer

    I heard a big kitteh sigh and couldn’t see Zooey in any of his usual places. He snuck back of the monitor. I hate it when he goes back there. He pulls and bites at wires, leaves hair, and is impossible to extract without damage. He’s still back there.

  155. 155.

    Jeffro

    @Corner Stone:

    I’m really tired of everyone who repeats this kind of BS. Trump’s nervous, Trump’s sweating it, Trump is breaking down ahead of something really, really, super bad. Believe me.
    Trump is just a fucking nutjob, Fin.

    Agreed. And he’ll never see the Big Day coming, either, so no point in thinking he’s just trying to throw out misdirection on purpose, either. Misdirection is half of who he is all day, every day.

  158. 158.

    martian

    @germy: Roger Stone looks the part, too, having finally come into the face he deserves. I’m sure he’d happily guest star. There’s something off about it, the way he seems to revel in the attention he gets, something sociopathic his attachment to the Republican cause.

  159. 159.

    Shalimar

    @dmsilev: Mar-a-Lago was built 2 decades before Donald Trump was born and is a historic landmark. His complete lack of class shouldn’t reflect on the place he has owned.

  160. 160.

    dexwood

    @Cheryl Rofer:
    Got a call from a friend three days ago. Following the death of her husband in September, she recently adopted two bonded cats from our city’s shelter. They had somehow unplugged her computer while playing in a tight spot behind the desk. She has MS and was completely unable to plug the box in again. I plugged it in, made a tent to cover the power strip, mission accomplished.

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    Cheryl Rofer

    @dexwood: The cats have one of those fountains for their water. A while back, it wasn’t operating when I got up in the morning. I figured it had died, until I saw that the cats had managed to unplug it.

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    Wapiti

    @germy:

    Tweeden was probably taken aback by his response. They can’t conceive of anyone taking the higher ground. She finally said she accepted his apology and didn’t want him to resign. I bet she thought he’d lash out, and had prepared herself for a counterattack.

    It was a good, solid apology. I think that because it was a good apology, the graceful thing for Ms. Tweeden was to accept it.

    I’d say the apology also had a quiet threat for anyone trying to weaponize a MeToo attack against Franken; you might get to make a sworn deposition to the Ethics Committee. (ie, don’t claim groping if he didn’t actually grope you).

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    Mike G

    @BBA:

    for some reason people who are actually in the finance biz watch it

    Traders need to know what breaking news the ignorant, panicky money might be trading on, so they can trade against it.

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    Tehanu

    @dmsilev:

    Dump certainly glitzed Mar-a-Lago up, but he didn’t build it; Marjorie Merriweather Post did, back in the 1920s. It was a National Historic Landmark; Dump was only able to buy it because the upkeep was too expensive for the National Park Service, and of course, all he could think of to do with it was try to squeeze a profit out of it.

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