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You are here: Home / Pet Blogging / Cat Blogging / There’s that number again

There’s that number again

by DougJ|  November 27, 20173:56 pm| 85 Comments

This post is in: Cat Blogging, Crazification Factor, Assholes

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The Republican giveaway to the rich tax bill isn’t popular:

New Hart Research polling finds the Republican tax bill is very unpopular in Sen. Bob Corker’s home state of Tennessee (30% approve), Sen. John McCain’s and Sen. Jeff Flake’s home state of Arizona (26% approve) and Sen. Susan Collins’ home state of Maine (22% approve).

The average of 22, 26, and 30 is very close to one of our favorite numbers.

Also too, I got a request to do more fundraising for Doug Jones. Here you go.

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  1. 1.

    jackmac

    November 27, 2017 at 3:57 pm

    Of course it’s not popular, but they’re still going to try to ram it through.

  2. 2.

    Yutsano

    November 27, 2017 at 3:59 pm

    @jackmac: Yup. They need to pass SOMETHING. Anything. Fuck norms, rules, votes. They need 50 so Pence can break the tie. All their sweet sweet oligarch cash is riding on that.

  3. 3.

    TenguPhule

    November 27, 2017 at 4:02 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Fuck norms, rules, votes.

    Yep, all the middle class tax cuts are temporary.

    All the corporate tax cuts are permanent.

    They’re not even trying to hide what they’re doing at this point.

  4. 4.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    November 27, 2017 at 4:04 pm

    @Yutsano:
    Is there a record for how many times a single VP has had to break ties in the Senate? This isn’t normal. You shouldn’t constantly need the fucking VP to break ties like this. It’s a sign that your agenda is deeply unpopular and divisive.

  5. 5.

    Calouste

    November 27, 2017 at 4:06 pm

    Corker and Flake are retiring, and McCain will most likely be dead before he is up for election again. I expect the first two to value a RWNJ sinecure in retirement over the concerns of the people in their state.

  6. 6.

    Kraux Pas

    November 27, 2017 at 4:07 pm

    I recently saw the tax bill referred to as a “tax on the future.”

    Let’s see; it lowers taxes on millionaires and partially offsets the costs by raising them on low-income workers, it is likely to raise the value of the dollar and certain to lower the costs of investing offshore which will push jobs out of the country, and we will eventually have to pay for the services the government provides.

    I like this phrase for this or any tax-cut bill bull the Republicans propose. It’s pithy and adequately scary for anyone with a little foresight.

  7. 7.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    November 27, 2017 at 4:08 pm

    I get that they think they have to pass this tax bill because they have to pass something or their donors go home, but…have they considered what happens to their voter base if they pass this bill and a significant chunk of it sees their taxes go up after a couple decades spent marinating in small government anti-tax propaganda? There aren’t enough GOP mega-donors to win an election for dog catcher. In the end, they need votes to get elected. The “representative Paul Ryan voted to raise taxes on millions of middle class families” ad writes itself, and seems like it would appeal to the very sensitivities of folks who generally vote for him.

  8. 8.

    Mike J

    November 27, 2017 at 4:12 pm

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?: Has it hurt Republicans in Kansas?

  9. 9.

    Calouste

    November 27, 2017 at 4:15 pm

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?: There’s also the abolition of the deduction of state taxes. GOP reps in states with income taxes should be hit hard with that they voted to raise taxes on the residents of that state, to give it to less fiscally responsible states.

  10. 10.

    Yutsano

    November 27, 2017 at 4:16 pm

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?:

    The “representative Paul Ryan voted to raise taxes on millions of middle class families” ad writes itself

    That ad is ready and waiting, since the House already passed their version. It really doesn’t matter now if the Senate does for the purposes of House political ads. This NEEDS to be beaten into every House Republican election. They voted to increase taxes to give tax cuts to the rich. Short and simple. And then let THEM explain it.

    @Mike J: Sort of. It allowed more moderate Republicans to take over the legislature. So they can’t get over the tribalism part but they can at least be somewhat pragmatic.

  11. 11.

    danielx

    November 27, 2017 at 4:16 pm

    I can see a commercial with assholes boarding a private jet and laughing over the rubes who voted for those who gave the tax break on said jet.

  12. 12.

    chris

    November 27, 2017 at 4:17 pm

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?:

    their voter base

    You mean the same people who swore their taxes went up (they didn’t) under Obama?

  13. 13.

    Mnemosyne

    November 27, 2017 at 4:20 pm

    @Mike J:

    Republicans in Kansas actually held a press conference saying their tax policy had been a disaster and begging Congress not to pass this.

    So, yes, Kansas Republicans are smarter than Congressional Republicans.

  14. 14.

    Kraux Pas

    November 27, 2017 at 4:20 pm

    @Calouste: Yeah, they’re screwing people in lots of arcane ways. How about their caps on deductions for school supplies and graduate studies?

    Who ever said Rs can’t put effort into policy? As long as the policy is “screw the poor” they’ll do their research and give it a 110% effort.

  15. 15.

    danielx

    November 27, 2017 at 4:23 pm

    The 27 percent rear their ugly heads. Again.

  16. 16.

    mikefromArlington

    November 27, 2017 at 4:23 pm

    yay for 29!

  17. 17.

    Redshift

    November 27, 2017 at 4:26 pm

    Weird how no one is talking about Grover Norquist and their pledge never to raise taxes, not ever ever ever, huh?

  18. 18.

    RepubAnon

    November 27, 2017 at 4:27 pm

    @danielx: Yes, and a series of “Muffy and Buffy” ads, with two clueless trust fund kids who never pay taxes, and don’t understand why their servants do pay taxes.

  19. 19.

    sharl

    November 27, 2017 at 4:36 pm

    Well, SOME people like the idea of the tax change legislation, or at least don’t mind it:

    NEW: The financial heft behind a leading pro-Roy Moore super PAC is coming from GOP mega-donor Richard Uilhein https://t.co/Bx1oBgVWy4— Lachlan Markay (@lachlan) November 27, 2017

    Roy Moore Super PAC Financier Finally Revealed: Newly released documents show Illinois businessman Richard Uihlein is the moneyman behind a group seeking to send Moore to the Senate

    The chief financier of a leading pro-Roy Moore super PAC is a deep-pocketed Republican businessman who dropped eight figures on 2016 races alone and is looking to continue propping up the party’s most conservative candidates.

    Illinois businessman Richard Uihlein provided $100,000 to the group, Proven Conservatives PAC, since September, according to a new filing with the Federal Election Commission, making him by far the group’s top donor. That money, which hadn’t been previously disclosed, has financed a host of ads boosting Moore’s candidacy in the face of widespread sexual assault and harassment allegations. The group has also run ads attacking Moore’s primary opponent, Sen. Luther Strange (R-AL), and his Democratic general election rival Doug Jones.

    Uihlein is a far bigger name in GOP politics. The shipping and office supply mogul and his wife donated a combined $26.4 million to federal campaigns, party organs, super PACs, and interest groups during the 2016 election cycle, according to FEC data.

    That spending has kept up this year.

    With funds provided by Uihlein and a handful of other donors, Proven Conservative PAC has spent more than $120,000 on about 15 television spots for ads boosting Moore and casting Strange as a D.C. insider and Jones as a liberal extremist. While Uihlein has been active elsewhere, the PAC itself has not reported any electoral activity outside of Alabama.

  20. 20.

    Batten Down the Hatches

    November 27, 2017 at 4:38 pm

    Done. Not a huge donation but it feels good to do something.

    Thanks for the frequent reminders.

  21. 21.

    schrodingers_cat

    November 27, 2017 at 4:38 pm

    I have a modest proposition, we stop calling Rs, GOP. There is nothing grand about their party and the D party is older than the R party.

  22. 22.

    JoeyJoeJoe Junior Shabadoo

    November 27, 2017 at 4:41 pm

    Kansas Republicans did lose a State Senate seat and a dozen State House seats in 2016 even as Hillary was losing badly, so there has been some effect

  23. 23.

    Brachiator

    November 27, 2017 at 4:42 pm

    @Mike J:
    @Mnemosyne:

    Has it hurt Republicans in Kansas?

    The article on the impact of tax cuts in Kansas is very instructive, because it reveals the primary intent of Congressional Republicans.

    “This is designed to shrink government. It is not designed to grow business,” state Representative Stephanie Clayton told me. “I’ve seen it. It shrinks government. It doesn’t grow business.”

    The GOP leadership and their plutocrat masters don’t care about growing the economy. The plutocrats are plenty rich already and the tax cuts will just shovel more to them. And the middle class will be strangled, but they can be ignored and fed propaganda from the Clear Channel/Meredith/Fox/Sinclair syndicate. But the federal government will become smaller and less effective. And that will make the Koch Brothers and their ilk very happy.

    And it’s interesting to see that Kansas Governor Brownback never backed down from the state’s disaster and is moving on to become the United States Ambassador-at-Large for International Religious Freedom.

  24. 24.

    Another Scott

    November 27, 2017 at 4:43 pm

    Donated. Thanks DougJ!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  25. 25.

    Schlemazel

    November 27, 2017 at 4:44 pm

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?:
    you are assuming their voters will notice, I am not convinced. FOr example, they were positive their taxes went up under Obama when they did no such thing. This is faith-based voting.

  26. 26.

    geg6

    November 27, 2017 at 4:45 pm

    Apparently, Project Veritas is at it again (though the news flash on my phone does not say who the woman works for). Someone approached the WaPo with a very dramatic story about Roy Moore that turned out to be false. Seems to one of their sting ops.

    Idiots think Marty Barron is as stupid as they are.

  27. 27.

    Amir Khalid

    November 27, 2017 at 4:47 pm

    I have heard of only two Republican arguments being advanced for this ghastly tax package: Trump needs a legislative win, any win at all, to avoid looking ineffectual as President; and Congressional Republicans need a win to appease their billionaire donors. Not a peep about what’s good for the nation, which according to every objective analysis will be harmed both immediately and in the long run.

  28. 28.

    geg6

    November 27, 2017 at 4:48 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    Apparently, some Oklahoma lawmakers are telling their people the same thing. If there are two states that should know best that this trickle down shit is really tinkle on, it’s Kansas and Oklahoma.

  29. 29.

    TenguPhule

    November 27, 2017 at 4:51 pm

    @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:

    Is there a record for how many times a single VP has had to break ties in the Senate?

    Yes.

    Pence is currently holding it.

  30. 30.

    Schlemazel

    November 27, 2017 at 4:51 pm

    @Brachiator:
    Never forget David Stockman. He was St. Ronalds first budget director who went to DC believing in trickle-down bullshit. He quit very early and wrote a book that should be required for its description of what he learned in DC. They are not interested in tax cuts per se, they never believed laffer, never thought trickle-down works. They wanted one thing & one thing only – to destroy the Federal government so that it was incapable of interfering with anything every again. The main cause was racism but health and safety issues were high on the list. They are very close to achieving their goal, may actually have done it we will see

  31. 31.

    Schlemazel

    November 27, 2017 at 4:53 pm

    @Amir Khalid:
    Amir, I know you are not on Bali but are you seeing any impact from the volcano? Good information id hard to find

  32. 32.

    JCJ

    November 27, 2017 at 4:55 pm

    Why is one of the categories for this “cat blogging”? Did you mean to hit “C.R.E.A.M.”?

  33. 33.

    Mnemosyne

    November 27, 2017 at 4:56 pm

    @geg6:

    Because they make shit up about their enemies, they assume that we do the exact same thing, so therefore all of the allegations against Trump and Moore must be fake.

    It must be very weird to live in a world where evidence doesn’t actually prove anything.

  34. 34.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    November 27, 2017 at 4:56 pm

    @Yutsano:

    And then let THEM explain it.

    Two things: When you’re explaining you’re losing.

    and

    Explanations on satisfy the giver.

  35. 35.

    sharl

    November 27, 2017 at 4:57 pm

    @geg6: Apparently, Project Veritas is at it again

    Hahaha, the story was just posted by WaPo. One of Wile E. Coyote’s James O’Keefe’s minions was thoroughly busted.

  36. 36.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 27, 2017 at 4:58 pm

    @geg6: Here you go:

    A woman approached The Post with dramatic — and false — tale about Roy Moore. She appears to be part of undercover sting operation. https://t.co/wzZxzakJFM

    — Robert Costa (@costareports) November 27, 2017

    In a series of interviews over two weeks, the woman shared a dramatic story about an alleged sexual relationship with Moore in 1992 that led to an abortion when she was 15. During the interviews, she repeatedly pressed Post reporters to give their opinions on the effects that her claims could have on Moore’s candidacy if she went public.

    The Post did not publish an article based on her unsubstantiated account. When Post reporters confronted her with inconsistencies in her story and an Internet posting that raised doubts about her motivations, she insisted that she was not working with any organization that targets journalists.

    But on Monday morning, Post reporters saw her walking into the New York offices of Project Veritas, an organization that targets the mainstream news media and left-leaning groups. The organization sets up undercover “stings” that involve using false cover stories and covert video recordings meant to expose what the group says is media bias.

    James O’Keefe, the founder of Project Veritas who was convicted of a misdemeanor in 2010 for using a fake identity to enter a federal building during a previous sting, declined to answer questions about the woman outside the Project Veritas office, a storefront in Mamaroneck, N.Y., on Monday morning shortly after the woman walked inside.

    “I am not doing an interview right now, so I’m not going to say a word,” O’Keefe said.

    In a follow-up interview, O’Keefe declined to answer repeated questions about whether the woman was employed at Project Veritas. He also did not respond when asked if he was working with Moore, former White House adviser and Moore supporter Stephen K. Bannon, or Republican strategists.

    The group’s efforts illustrate the lengths to which activists have gone to try to discredit media outlets for reporting on allegations from multiple women that Moore pursued them when they were teenagers and he was in his early 30s. Moore has denied that he did anything improper.

    A spokesman for Moore’s campaign did not immediately respond to a message for comment.

    The woman who approached Post reporters, Jaime T. Phillips, did not respond to calls to her cellphone Monday morning. Her car remained in the Project Veritas parking lot for more than an hour.

    After Phillips was seen entering the Project Veritas office, The Post made the unusual decision to report her previous off-the-record comments.

    “We always honor ‘off-the-record’ agreements when they’re entered into in good faith,” said Martin Baron, The Post’s executive editor. “But this so-called off-the-record conversation was the essence of a scheme to deceive and embarrass us. The intent by Project Veritas clearly was to publicize the conversation if we fell for the trap. Because of our customary journalistic rigor, we weren’t fooled, and we can’t honor an ‘off-the-record’ agreement that was solicited in maliciously bad faith.”

  37. 37.

    Another Scott

    November 27, 2017 at 4:58 pm

    @Schlemazel: Reuters has a live cam feed from the volcano.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  38. 38.

    rikyrah

    November 27, 2017 at 4:58 pm

    The crazyfication factor is real.

  39. 39.

    Schlemazel

    November 27, 2017 at 5:02 pm

    @Another Scott:
    cool! I did not know that. OTOH, it does not show me what the locals are having to put up with

  40. 40.

    TenguPhule

    November 27, 2017 at 5:03 pm

    @Kraux Pas:

    it is likely to raise the value of the dollar

    Actually the opposite.

  41. 41.

    TenguPhule

    November 27, 2017 at 5:05 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I believe the woman in this case needs to be severely punished.

  42. 42.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 27, 2017 at 5:07 pm

    #BREAKING: Second Republican senator comes out against GOP tax bill https://t.co/Z83QF0eboz pic.twitter.com/pph01XAQG4

    — The Hill (@thehill) November 27, 2017

  43. 43.

    TenguPhule

    November 27, 2017 at 5:07 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    Not a peep about what’s good for the nation, which according to every objective analysis will be harmed both immediately and in the long run.

    The Republican boilerplate of “It will create jobs and decrease the deficits, eventually” is getting entangled with “Don’t worry, the temporary tax cuts will be made permanent” and the mixed messaging is starting to permeate to even the media’s dull awareness.

  44. 44.

    TenguPhule

    November 27, 2017 at 5:08 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    So, yes, Kansas Republicans are smarter than Congressional Republicans.

    Low bar.

  45. 45.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    November 27, 2017 at 5:08 pm

    @TenguPhule:
    Punished how?

  46. 46.

    TenguPhule

    November 27, 2017 at 5:10 pm

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?:

    but…have they considered what happens to their voter base if they pass this bill and a significant chunk of it sees their taxes go up after a couple decades spent marinating in small government anti-tax propaganda?

    They blame the Democrats.

    Its not coincidence that the worst parts of their bill take place five years from now.

    They’re presuming Democrats will be in power and ready to take all the blame.

  47. 47.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 27, 2017 at 5:12 pm

    @TenguPhule: You’ll have to peddle your punishment fantasy scenarios somewhere else. Or wait till after 10 PM EST to do it here.//

  48. 48.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 27, 2017 at 5:13 pm

    @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: You just had to ask, didn’t you?

  49. 49.

    TenguPhule

    November 27, 2017 at 5:13 pm

    @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: Let the punishment fit the crime. Complete public outing of every possibly available detail to the point that going forward, no judge or jury in any court in the land will ever believe her testimony ever again. i want her public shaming to the point where her own relatives disavow her.

    And that doesn’t even begin to describe what I want done to O’Keefe.

  50. 50.

    Another Scott

    November 27, 2017 at 5:13 pm

    @Schlemazel: True, but it just seems to be (mostly) steam at the moment. Thankfully.

    The SCMP has this AP story with more details.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  51. 51.

    Duane

    November 27, 2017 at 5:14 pm

    @Kraux Pas: I see the so very smart Repubs tacked “and Jobs Act” onto the tax scam’s title. What a blatant, deceitful attempt to mislead. They should add ” and Magical Unicorn Act, Too.” They don’t even try to hide their disdain for us any longer.

  52. 52.

    different-church-lady

    November 27, 2017 at 5:14 pm

    @TenguPhule: She is a bad person and she must pay the penalty. And here in Castle Anthrax, we have but one punishment…

  53. 53.

    MisterForkbeard

    November 27, 2017 at 5:15 pm

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?: Their voter base won’t care.

    First, as TenguPhile says they’ve timed it so that the results are in the future and can be obfuscated and blamed on the Democrats.

    Second, even if the tax bill hit IMMEDIATELY they still wouldn’t care or believe it. I saw an article about a year ago that involved journalists talking to a bunch of republicans and shown (over and over!) that Obama had lowered their taxes, even going so far as showing them their own tax returns from the past several years and watching the tax rate go down. None of them believed it was real. Likewise, these are the same people that believe Trump is really Christian and that he’s reformed from his p*ssy-grabbing days… or that the tape was faked to begin with. They’re all brainwashed.

  54. 54.

    different-church-lady

    November 27, 2017 at 5:15 pm

    @Duane: “RAT POISON and Jobs Act”

  55. 55.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 27, 2017 at 5:15 pm

    @Another Scott:

    it just seems to be (mostly) steam at the moment.

    Good for the complexion. Opens up the pores!

  56. 56.

    TenguPhule

    November 27, 2017 at 5:17 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Good for the complexion. Opens up the pores!

    And melts the skin.

  57. 57.

    MisterForkbeard

    November 27, 2017 at 5:18 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: So complete surprise, the Republicans are grasping at straws to come up with any reason at all to reassure voters they can vote for Roy Moore. I’m not sure why they bothered – the rank and file are already convinced the allegations have been disproven or show that he ‘honorably’ asked permission from the parents of legal teens to date them.

    They just don’t care.

  58. 58.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 27, 2017 at 5:18 pm

    @different-church-lady: Here you go:

    Also, a funny allusion to it here:

  59. 59.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 27, 2017 at 5:20 pm

    @TenguPhule: Read the directions: do not directly apply the volcanic steam! Indirect application only!

  60. 60.

    sharl

    November 27, 2017 at 5:20 pm

    The 30-second Doug Jones ad attached to this tweet is awesome:

    AL-Sen: The Doug Jones campaign has rotated in new creative –Jones to-camera: "Roy Moore compares preschool and early childhood education to Nazi indoctrination. Folks, we're 49th in education because of thinking like that." pic.twitter.com/bYnGtvJLYZ— Medium Buying (@mediumbuyingllc) November 27, 2017

    I hope there are enough voting-eligible Alabama folks that agree.

  61. 61.

    Timurid

    November 27, 2017 at 5:22 pm

    In other news, there’s apparently kompromat on Keith Olbermann…

  62. 62.

    James E. Powell

    November 27, 2017 at 5:26 pm

    @chris:

    Exactly. By next fall, FOX & Rush will have them all believing that Trump cut their taxes into half of what they would have been under Obama. CNN & the NYT will give the “some say” and “both sides” treatment so no one but the already committed will have any idea what the truth is. Republicans are very good at this because they all tell the same lies over and over. Democratic countermeasures have all failed because Democrats are unfocused and unwilling to explain why taxes need to be paid.

  63. 63.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 27, 2017 at 5:29 pm

    @sharl: Here you go:

    AL-Sen: The Doug Jones campaign has rotated in new creative —

    Jones to-camera: "Roy Moore compares preschool and early childhood education to Nazi indoctrination. Folks, we're 49th in education because of thinking like that." pic.twitter.com/bYnGtvJLYZ

    — Medium Buying (@mediumbuyingllc) November 27, 2017

  64. 64.

    Another Scott

    November 27, 2017 at 5:31 pm

    @Timurid: As usual with Twitter, it raises more questions than it answers.

    Twitter is horrible for conveying actually useful information to normal people. :-/

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  65. 65.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 27, 2017 at 5:31 pm

    @Timurid: Well he did have an apartment he owned in Trump Tower…

    But here’s what he actually had to say:

    NEW VIDEO: The last episode of #TheResistanceGQ. The good news: I’m finishing it because I think – especially after “Pocahontas” – Trump is unavoidably, inevitably, and in every possible path open to him, FINISHED pic.twitter.com/NzguN6uvL3

    — Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) November 27, 2017

  66. 66.

    sharl

    November 27, 2017 at 5:31 pm

    On the topic of the latest O’Keefe sleaze, THIS is why I always want to know where the money is coming from for shit like this!

    The problem with Project Veritas is that its targets have to catch it every single time. Project Vertias only has to fool someone once to do considerable damage.— Ian Millhiser (@imillhiser) November 27, 2017

    it already has; i hope we can all understand now that ACORN was driven out of existence via a racist con job. https://t.co/b38DjHvUIO— Seth D. Michaels ? (@sethdmichaels) November 27, 2017

    the lost history is that ACORN warned about the housing bubble/mortgage fraud before anyone and that is why they were destroyed https://t.co/vh3bR0pY4m— Atrios (@Atrios) November 27, 2017

    I think Atrios is likely correct, though I would love-LOVE-LOVE to have captured recordings of these secret gazillionaire backers providing targeting instructions to the pond scum they hire for these hit jobs, like O’Keefe.
    A boy can dream…

  67. 67.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    November 27, 2017 at 5:32 pm

    @Timurid: Oh no, they got to Olbermann.

  68. 68.

    TenguPhule

    November 27, 2017 at 5:33 pm

    @sharl: The intelligence we could get from O’Keefe about domestic threats to democracy more then justifies sending him on a one way trip to a CIA blacksite.

  69. 69.

    sharl

    November 27, 2017 at 5:34 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Thanks so much Adam. He really is an excellent person, and I hope enough Alabamans realize that on Election Day.

  70. 70.

    Timurid

    November 27, 2017 at 5:38 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I was making a joke because both the decision and the explanation for it are so odd (if he thinks the Pocahontas thing is what ends Trump he’s insane).

  71. 71.

    TenguPhule

    November 27, 2017 at 5:40 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: You missed the Quest for the Holy Grail reference?

  72. 72.

    Calouste

    November 27, 2017 at 5:42 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Some Alabamans think 49th is one place too high.

  73. 73.

    Duane

    November 27, 2017 at 5:42 pm

    @different-church-lady: Obama never came out and said,”Please don’t eat rat poison.” Another thing he didn’t do for us.

  74. 74.

    Brachiator

    November 27, 2017 at 5:43 pm

    @Schlemazel:

    They wanted one thing & one thing only – to destroy the Federal government so that it was incapable of interfering with anything every again.

    They remind me of Dick Cheney, who believed that the brute force method of creating your own reality actually works. It is simply destructive.

    The odd thing is that Trump’s biggest supporters are willing to go down with this failed effort. They will believe despite it all that Trump really is trying to make America great again. And knowing Trump, he will blame those he duped for not being strong enough or smart enough or good enough to be worthy of him.

  75. 75.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 27, 2017 at 5:44 pm

    @TenguPhule: I got the reference.

  76. 76.

    debbie

    November 27, 2017 at 5:48 pm

    Say what you will about the NYT, and I know you will, David Leonhardt was on NPR’s On Point today. The subject was the tax plan. Leonhardt called bullshit on Senators like Rob Portman and was otherwise right on target.

  77. 77.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 27, 2017 at 5:52 pm

    @Calouste: Damn Mississippi always holding them back from getting the record!

  78. 78.

    Brachiator

    November 27, 2017 at 5:59 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    The Republican boilerplate of “It will create jobs and decrease the deficits, eventually” is getting entangled with “Don’t worry, the temporary tax cuts will be made permanent” and the mixed messaging is starting to permeate to even the media’s dull awareness.

    I don’t think you can blame the “media’s dull awareness.” News stories have been pretty clear about the impact of this crappy tax bill.

    The GOP is rushing to get things done in the dead of night and in secret. Even rank and file Republicans in Congress did not see what the committees were doing until they were done.

    But the GOP can thank the distraction of the holidays and the fact that most people are not going to pay attention to stories about economics, even when it affects them.

    On top of this, you can see the GOP claiming that the CBO lies or is inaccurate, or that any cautions or negative assessments are just Democratic Party fake news.

    Now you can blame lazy and stupid pundits, as opposed to straight reporting. I caught a bit of the ABC Sunday pundit show and Cokie Roberts and others speculated whether the GOP would be able to get things done by Christmas, but never said anything about the lack of merit in the tax bill.

  79. 79.

    different-church-lady

    November 27, 2017 at 6:06 pm

    @Another Scott:

    Twitter is horrible for conveying actually useful information to normal people. :-/

    Which is exactly why everyone uses it — people will always choose the worst technology for what they want to accomplish.

  80. 80.

    different-church-lady

    November 27, 2017 at 6:07 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I thought Keith was smarter than that.

  81. 81.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 27, 2017 at 6:21 pm

    @different-church-lady: Perhaps.

  82. 82.

    p.a.

    November 27, 2017 at 6:40 pm

    Those 20% numbers are impressive given the media’s innumeracy and obsequious channeling of strong daddy rethug bullshit. Somehow the dem’s messaging is getting through the filters.

  83. 83.

    Spaniel

    November 27, 2017 at 8:22 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    … and riddle me this? Who is the Speaker of the House that worked for Sen. Brownback a few years ago is a force to push this tax across?

  84. 84.

    Duane

    November 27, 2017 at 10:55 pm

    @Brachiator: That say it all. Got plenty of money, want more, don’t give a damn about the rest.
    Evil is the truth.

  85. 85.

    Dupe70

    November 28, 2017 at 10:12 am

    @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: Especially when you have a 2 vote margin.

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