The Ukrainian counterattack on Sievierodonetsk is ongoing.
President Zelenskyy did a battlefield circulation visit to the Joint Forces Operation bases in Lysachansk, as well as in Zaporizhzhia:
⚡️Zelensky visits Ukraine’s frontline positions in Soledar, Lysychansk.
President Volodymyr Zelensky has said he visited two cities near the frontline of battles against the Russian army after meeting troops in Zaporizhzhia Oblast. pic.twitter.com/8wME8AcX5S
— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) June 6, 2022
President Zelenskyy made a very brief – under two minutes – address this evening during his battlefield circulation in Lysachansk. It has English subtitles. There is no transcript posted:
Here is today’s operational update from the Ukrainian MOD (emphasis mine):
The operational update regarding the russian invasion on 18.00 on June 5, 2022
The one hundred and second (102) day of the heroic resistance of the Ukrainian people to a russian military invasion continues.
In the Volyn and Polissya directions, the enemy did not take active action. The main efforts of the units of the Armed Forces of the republic of belarus continue to focus on reconnaissance and engineering equipment positions. During the inspection of combat readiness of units, special attention is paid to the development of tasks to overcome water obstacles and the interaction of airstrikes with the crews of helicopters of army aircraft.
In the Siversky direction, the enemy is intensively guarding areas of the Ukrainian-russian border in the Bryansk and Kursk regions. He carried out mortar shelling of civilian infrastructure near the village of Gremyach, Chernihiv oblast.
In the Slobozhansky direction, the enemy continues to fire on units of the Defense Forces with artillery, rocket-propelled grenade launchers, mortars and tanks. In order to support the offensive, it is rapidly rebuilding transport and railway infrastructure in the temporarily occupied territories. The use of electronic warfare continues to create conditions that make it impossible for UAV units to use UAVs.
In the Kharkiv direction, the enemy conducted an active defense, focusing its efforts on maintaining the occupied borders and border areas north of the city of Kharkiv. In order to increase the stability of the defense conducts engineering and fortification equipment positions and mining approaches to them. To restrain the actions of the Defense Forces, it is conducting intensive artillery and mortar shelling of the positions of our units. In addition, the enemy fired on civilian infrastructure in the areas of the settlements of Tsyrkuny, Ruski and Cherkasy Tyshky, Staryi Saltiv. He fired missiles at the Korotych settlement.
In the Slovyansk direction, the enemy’s efforts are focused on continuing the offensive in the direction of the settlement of Slovyansk. The enemy fired on civilian infrastructure in the areas of Chepil, Dibrovne, Virnopillya, Dovhenke and Bohorodychne.
The occupiers tried unsuccessfully to conduct offensive and assault operations in the areas of the settlements of Bohorodychne and Dovhenke.
In the Donetsk direction, the enemy launched air strikes on civilian infrastructure in the areas of Slovyansk and Lysychansk.
In the Lyman direction, with the support of artillery, the enemy resumed the offensive near the village of Svyatogirsk, has significant losses in manpower, weapons and equipment. Conducts assault operations in the direction of the settlement of the Stary Karavan. The fighting continues.
In the Siverodonetsk direction, the enemy fired mortars, artillery and multiple rocket launchers at units of our troops and civilian infrastructure in the settlements of Siverodonetsk, Lysychansk, Toshkivka, and Ustynivka.
In the Bakhmut direction, enemy units shelled the settlements of Komyshuvakha, Mykolayivka, Bilohorivka, Pokrovske, and Dolomitne. The enemy used assault and army aircraft near Bakhmut and Berestov.
The occupiers carried out assault operations in the areas of Bilohorivka and Mykolayivka. The enemy suffered significant losses in manpower and equipment. There is no success, the fighting continues.
In the Avdiivka, Kurakhivka, Novopavlivka and Zaporizhzhia directions, the enemy did not conduct active hostilities. He fired on civilian infrastructure in the settlements of Zaitseve, New York, Toretsk, Krasnohorivka, Marinka, Uspenivka, Orikhiv and Kamyanske. He struck from operational-tactical and army aircraft near Novoselivka, New York, Marinka and Kamyansky.
In the South Buh direction, the occupiers fired on the positions of our troops and tried to wage a counter-battery struggle. In order to clarify the position of our units and correct the fire, we conducted air reconnaissance using UAVs. The enemy used artillery in the areas of the settlements of Mykolyiv, Prybuzke, Luch, Blahodatne, Shyroke and Tokareve.
russian occupiers carried out assaults in the area of the settlement of Bila Krynytsia in order to restore the previously lost position. After the fire, the Defense Forces of Ukraine retreated to their former positions.
The enemy continues to suffer significant losses during hostilities on the territory of Ukraine. In order to replenish units, russian invaders continue forced mobilization measures in the temporarily occupied territories of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts.
We believe in the Armed Forces of Ukraine! Together to victory!
Glory to Ukraine!
Here is today’s assessment from the British MOD:
And after several days’ hiatus, here’s their updated map for today:
As we’ve discussed, not a lot of large movement from one day to the next.
The Russians bombarded the left bank of Kyiv early this morning. They targeted a production facility that builds grain cars and grain trolleys.
The target of the Russian missile attacked in Kyiv this morning was a facility that works on railway cars to transport grain. Officials let us in to have a look. The place is gutted pic.twitter.com/uqeppwbLjn
— Simon Shuster (@shustry) June 5, 2022
Russia also blew up a granary in Mykolaiv.
If you were still not convinced that Russia is actively worsening the global food crisis, watch Russia's strikes on a grain facility in Mykolaiv pic.twitter.com/pGoqOvQFt6
— Samuel Ramani (@SamRamani2) June 5, 2022
Interestingly, the granary is located at an export terminal that is owned by Dmytro Firtash. Firtash is one of Putin’s major Ukrainian catspaws. He is currently under house arrest in Austria as he fights extradition to the US. I can’t link to it because our archives are still unavailable, but if you recall my first Black PSYOP post from the before times in October 2019, Firtash played a major role in the Giuliani-Joe DiGenova-Victoria Toensing-Parnas & Furman attempts to create political dirt on Joe Biden. Anyhow, today’s strikes are further evidence of Putin’s attempts to both create a food crisis within Ukraine and in other parts of the world by targeting Ukraine’s agricultural sector.
Ukraine has killed another Russian general officer. Reuters has the details:
LONDON, June 5 (Reuters) – A Russian general was killed in eastern Ukraine, a Russian state media journalist said on Sunday, adding to the string of high-ranking military casualties sustained by Moscow.
The report, published on the Telegram messaging app by state television reporter Alexander Sladkov, did not say precisely when and where Major General Roman Kutuzov was killed.
There was no immediate comment from the Russian defence ministry.
Obligatory!
I think that’s enough for today.
Your daily Patron!
A mural featuring Patron the sapper dog has now appeared in one of Kyiv parks pic.twitter.com/5FEOFND76b
— Stratcom Centre UA (@StratcomCentre) June 5, 2022
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I’m not sure the TikTok video link embedded properly.
Open thread!
Chetan Murthy
“Low bow to their parents.” He knows how to lead his people.
Alison Rose
God damn. Fuck the russians.
Thank you, Adam.
Andrya
Adam, thanks again for yesterday’s incredible answer to my question.
Ksmiami
@Alison Rose : looking forward to burning Moscow to the ground. Let them feel the consequences
O. Felix Culpa
Kudos to Zelenskyy. He must be exhausted, physically, mentally, emotionally. I can’t imagine how stressful and draining it must be to lead a country under such vicious attack, and yet he continues embodying true leadership. Ukraine elected the right man at the right time.
Jay
Miki
War is never honorable, although warriors are trained to be so.
This war is especially not honorable, and reminds us daily of its dishonor.
I can’t, frankly, see a way out of this without more carnage, more destruction, more heartbreak.
It’s Allepo, not a re-built Dresden.
pat
I don’t want to see Moscow burned to the ground. I want to see the russian army defeated and driven out of Ukraine. I want to see russia driven out of the UN. I want to see putin in the dock, and I want to see a massive effort from the western nations to rebuild Ukraine
And then I want to see the US stop sending arms to countries that use them to demolish other countries, like the arms we give to Saudi Arabia to demolish Yemen.
Yeah, and when all of that is accomplished, I really want my unicorn!
Torrey
Zelenskyy also posted a very short address today regarding the death of anthropologist and filmmaker Mantas Kvedaravičius in Mariupol.
Captain C
@Ksmiami: That’s a really bad idea. If they used Putin’s Potemkin mansions for target practice, either while empty or with him and his generals and chekhists in them, I’d be fine with that.
Gin & Tonic
@Chetan Murthy: That’s a very standard respectful phrase in Ukrainian.
Alison Rose
@O. Felix Culpa: Agreed. Plus, the way he was speaking so softly, as though to not be heard or discovered, makes me worry for his safety, as I do whenever he goes anywhere. But I’m also so amazed by his bravery in doing so, and by the bravery of all of his people. What an incredible country. Every day they make me proud to have a branch of my family tree from their soil.
Gin & Tonic
@Miki: One side is conducting its operations honorably, so fuck off with your both-sideserism.
J R in WV
How many dead russian General Officers does that make in total now?
Not enough, yet !!! That’s how many!
I like how the Ukrainian defense dep’t daily announcement capitalizes every word they can, except the words russia/russian. I think I will adopt that style from here on out. That renegade nation doesn’t deserve a capital letter. In spite of the spell check telling me I’m wrong in every case.
Thanks Adam, for this reporting, I know it’s really hard. Just reading it is hard!
O. Felix Culpa
More at the link.
Torrey
Adam, again, thank you for these daily updates. I know they require a lot of work, and I am grateful for your time and effort. I particularly appreciate your expertise in curating and commenting on the material.
Question for Gin & Tonic or possibly Zhena Gogolia or anyone who might know enough Ukrainian or Ukrainian-adjacent language to be able to answer the question. Back in late February, in the interaction between the Snake Island soldiers and the late Russian warship, the Ukrainian soldier says, apparently to his comrades, “Well, this is it” and then ask whether he should, er, y’know, invite the enemy to perform a maneuver not strictly within the operational parameters of your normal warship. At 0:21 in the video, a woman’s voice replies something that is translated in the subtitles as “Just in case.” “Just in case” doesn’t make sense in this context, and I’m guessing that the phrase is idiomatic and probably conveys something like “go for it.” Can anyone give me an explanation of the phrase, with both literal and intended meanings?
Ohio Mom
@O. Felix Culpa: You read about great leaders in history, people like Lincoln, they are so mythic they seem almost implausible and now we are witnessing one, Zelenskyy, in our time.
On another note, I had an extremely long day and thought I would content myself with just reading the comments but my eyes are closing, I’ll read the post and the rest of the comments tomorrow. Night all.
Adam L. Silverman
@Andrya: You’re most welcome.
Adam L. Silverman
@J R in WV: 12 or 13.
Another Scott
BoJo’s government has continued to be a trainwreck, but they’re doing well in supporting Ukraine. AlJazeera:
VVP must be sweating quite a bit now…
Cheers,
Scott.
randy khan
The Russian actions to cut off grain exports just seem like they’re direct attempts to blackmail the rest of the world. The cruelty is awful.
debbie
@Another Scott:
Russia’s missile attack on Kyiv is the reason:
Mallard Filmore
@Jay: According to this YouTube video, Lithuanian private parties raised the funds to buy a drone. Baykar decided, I suspect to get around a mountain of paperwork, to simply give the drone to Lithuania and have the private funds sent elsewhere to buy humanitarian aid.
title: “Russia has LOST almost all their Trained Infantry”
link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVDJyC0yvwY (at just past 15:30)
Do not be fooled by the title. Jake Bro also shows a video tweet from Trent Telenko of two captured DNR or LNR soldiers. Their equipment is crap, no body armor, no medicine, poor food when they get it … basically less than cannon fodder.
Jake speculates that Putin’s view is it’s just Ukrainian killing Ukrainian, so who cares which side gets zilched.
Alison Rose
@Miki: The Ukrainians are most definitely honorable in this war. There is no debate about that.
Grumpy Old Railroader
For those calling for death of Russians please keep in mind that the “people” in Russia are not the government or the military. When I hear calls to burn down Moscow and Fxxk the Russians, I understand your passion but focus your anger on those evil people in power who who deserve our wrath. And yeah I am sure some of the civilians are pretty brainwashed by state controlled media but please please please don’t paint every Russian with the same broad brush.
Another Scott
@debbie: It looks like it was in the works and VVP is trying to retaliate in advance.
Warning – Politico (from June 1):
I’m no expert, but I have to assume that all of these things (even VVP’s targeting decisions) have days of lead time – at least.
Cheers,
Scott.
Chetan Murthy
@Grumpy Old Railroader: three thoughts:
Mike in NC
The vaunted Russian war machine (“Steamroller”) was a joke in 1904 (Port Arthur & Tsushima), and again in 1914 (Tannenberg), and then again until the country was close to demise in 1941 (Leningrad/Stalingrad) , when enough raw troops were fed into the meatgrinder…
debbie
@Another Scott:
Are you sure? The missiles in your quoted excerpt were medium-range; now, the UK’s sending long-range missiles.
Another Scott
DW.com:
(Emphasis added.)
They’re determined to make the entire civilized world hate them, aren’t they??
I hope everyone has long memories of what VVP’s cronies have said and done.
Grr…,
Scott.
Another Scott
@debbie: AFAIK, the systems being talked about from the UK/US have the same range with the shells/rockets that will be sent – up to 80 km/50 miles. (The systems can use longer range shells/rockets, but those aren’t being sent. At least for now.)
Corrections welcome.
Cheers,
Scott.
Adam L. Silverman
@Another Scott: @debbie: @Another Scott: I covered this on the first update after we came back from hiatus.
If you’re not going to follow along I’m going to have to assign quizzes!
Another Scott
@Adam L. Silverman: Hey, be happy that it’s sinking in eventually!
;-)
Thanks.
Cheers,
Scott.
debbie
@Adam L. Silverman:
I apologize. There’s just so much to absorb!
Another Scott
@Adam L. Silverman: For those who were talking and passing notes at the time, Day 98.
;-)
Cheers,
Scott.
Grumpy Old Railroader
Yeah that statement is some real poppycock right there. Nobody really knows what is going on in the average Russian citizen’s head. Not you. Not me. We just do not know.
Roger Moore
@Ohio Mom:
One of the things I’ve come to understand by watching the great leaders of our time is that great leaders aren’t magic. They are muddling through just like the rest of us; they just show greater courage and tenacity while doing it. This can either be scary, because you understand the best leaders of today are just winging it, or liberating, because you realize that even the greats aren’t categorically different from the rest of us.
Chetan Murthy
@Roger Moore:
piratedan
@Grumpy Old Railroader: I would presume that the general Russian populace is just as susceptible to being fed shit as their US counterparts are. There have been protests, there appears to be a resistance movement of sorts as key critical infrastructure keeps getting torched, but plenty of folks are being fed the equivalent of Fox News propaganda there, just as we have a certain element of folks that feed of the spigot here.
If that’s your only source of information (and I suspect that voices of dissent are still being dealt with internally), then its very easy to take the party line that you’re being fed. Not everyone wants to think for themselves politically, so I agree that broad brushes are not in order here but alternate news sources are not commonplace in Russia (or so I have been given to understand) so lacking anything else, lots of folks fall in line.
Alison Rose
@Grumpy Old Railroader: There have been numerous polls and articles and man-on-the-street interviews that show large swaths of the Russian population support the war. Some more fervently than others, but support is support. Think of the clips we’ve seen of Ukrainians trying to tell their family in Russia what’s happening and how the relatives flat out don’t believe them. Yes, they live under tyrannical state control and they are fed bullshit by Putin’s government, but it’s not North Korea, and some of this is by choice. Many of them believe that Ukraine is filled with Nazis, that the US is the aggressor and Russia the poor underdog fighting back.
I understand that if they think they’ll be disappeared if they go on TV and say “This war is bad and Putin should stop”, that’s some real motivation to cheer it on. But if you allow yourself to believe that THAT is the default–that the majority of them secretly despise the war and support Ukraine’s autonomy–then it sounds to me like you’re also buying into some BS. I’m not saying every Russian citizen is an evil bloodthirsty monster. But the proof of what is happening is right there for them to see, and a lot of them seem to be saying “who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes” to their own reflections.
Roger Moore
@piratedan:
We won’t find out right away, but I would not be at all surprised if we later find out the attacks on Russian infrastructure are from Ukrainian sleeper agents. I would expect Ukraine to have a very easy time putting them in place, and a wise government- I know, no guarantee of that- would have done so.
scav
@Alison Rose : There’s also likely going to be that great swath in the middle of the Russian populace, just as in the US populace, that just don’t give a damn, aren’t really paying attention and mouth whatever passes for mainstream opinion just because it makes their own lives easier. Plus the ones who’s major clue something’s up is they can’t get McDonalds, Starbucks and Netflix and so are angry at those nasty foreigners who took them away.
Andrya
@Grumpy Old Railroader: @Chetan Murthy:
New Yorker magazine recently ran an article on Ukraine that mentioned that an independent pollster (somewhat associated with the russian opposition) did a telephone poll of 31,000 russians asking about their attitude toward the Ukraine conflict. As soon as the topic of the poll was mentioned, 29,400 hung up immediately.
I am a retired statistician, and I teach statistics at a California community college. I expose my students to the concept of “non-response bias” – which means that if a lot of people refuse to answer a poll/questionnaire, the people who refuse to answer may be quite different from those who do answer.
In russia, I suspect that, with some heroic exceptions, only those who support the attack on Ukraine dare to speak.
Chetan Murthy
@Andrya: I wish I could remember where I’d seen it, or what the conclusion was, but there have been attempts to defeat these issues of response bias, by using clever poll design. I wish I could remember where I’d seen it.
Doc Sardonic
@Grumpy Old Railroader: @Grumpy Old Railroader:
No……..Sorry….. It is 80 years past the time that we should have burnt Russia to the ground. Patton was correct.
Ksmiami
@Captain C: Sorry – I was just in Romania- anyone who thinks Putin will stop us being willfully ignorant and the Russian people are in on the crimes.
Ksmiami
@Grumpy Old Railroader: who is doing the indiscriminate killing, who is kidnapping children- a war machine doesn’t operate on its own. Go talk to our Allie’s in Eastern Europe- the Russians need to pay
Andrya
@Chetan Murthy:
Thanks for your post- I love meeting someone who is interested in statistics.
I have to make one distinction: “non-response bias” means “people who answer questions may be different from those who refuse to do so”. “Response bias” means “people are not always truthful in responding to questionnaires, especially if you ask them about something illegal or embarassing”.
Your post refers to response bias.
I suspect both response bias and non-response bias are at work when anyone asks russians about the Ukraine war.
I’m not aware of any strategies to combat non-response bias. Some statisticians believe they can combat response bias by some sort of anonymous coding, so no one will no who admitted to cheating on their spouse or shoplifting as a teenager. I’m sceptical that this will work, because people not only want to conceal their failings from other people, they don’t want to admit their failings to themselves.
Brachiator
@Andrya:
This is very interesting. Much would also depend on whether the poll subjects are interested in the issue, are willing to participate and feel free to give honest responses.
livewyre
@Chetan Murthy: How would you differentiate what you’re saying from any other justification for killing, including the ones issued by their government? Relatedly, do you think Putin could get elected fairly, and if so, why would he bother cheating? Or is your case that he legitimately represents his population? In the context of the points raised about non-response bias in polling, do any of the above answers change your opinion at all? This goes as well for anyone who claims to want to raze any populated area for any reason.
Why not – more questions, while we’re in the mood. Would you or anyone be willing to carry out your desires in person? What acts would you be willing to perform? How long would you take? Would you feel better afterward? Or is it something that you require others, elsewhere, whose names you’ll never know, to do for you? Is it better if your hands stay clean, as long as the deed is done? Honestly wondering. There’s a lot to wonder these days, to say the least. Maybe it’s not such a mystery what despair brings out.
Thinking on it more, there are some echoes of “we’re not hurting the right people” in this. Like it’s a matter of who gets killed rather than of killing. Just… yeah.
livewyre
One more aside before I stop reeling from the… let’s call it an “atmosphere of catharsis”… and call it a night. I would like to thank whatever stars and other celestial entities I can find that the policymakers on this side of the pond(s) seem highly cognizant that Putin’s offenses are as much against the people of Russia as anyone else. Their blood is also on his hands, to the extent that he continues to direct them to their mutual slaughter. Everywhere he has influenced would be better off without him – especially where he reigns, for all he’s done to their ability to participate in the global community. As far as I’m concerned, anyone who blames the population he’s using as his cannon fodder is letting him off easy. He has to be stopped and I wish there was a way to do it that didn’t involve mass starvation or an acceleration of conflict. For all I know, I can only hope there is.
Ksmiami
@livewyre: when a nation basically threatens the world, the world must strike back hard and mercilessly until the threat is neutralized. Did we give Hitler an off-ramp? And this should be a warning to ensure we don’t allow ourselves to be governed by evil men… because war, confiscation and genocide is what autocratic leaders crave.
livewyre
@Ksmiami: Okay, had to check back. Referring you to the above – I consider it vastly preferable that your stance is not highly represented in the policy structure. So in a twisted way, I agree with you that we should heed the warning not to be governed by evil. We should know well enough by now not to do what Hitler did, rather than assume that the problem with what he did was where he was born.
We don’t raze population centers, for some odd reason. Call us weak. We don’t target civilian infrastructure. We don’t kidnap and torture, no matter how filthy and misbegotten the lineage of the born enemy. The problem with Putin isn’t where he’s from, in case that didn’t come across.
Belatedly, I seem to recall that justification of atrocities was a banning offense around here before the recent hosting issues. I didn’t bring it up at the time because I’m not a snitch, because our gracious hosts have enough on their plate, and because what with all the confusion I just plain forgot. But in general it’s a policy whose resumption I would support.
bjacques
Very dead thread, but being a citizen if a country that’s pulled some nasty shit over two centuries as a democracy, even under “good” Presidents, do you really want to call for collective punishment, especially of civilians? If so, maybe we owe the shade of Osama bin Laden an apology.
Brachiator
@bjacques:
Live answer in a very dead thread. The answer is, no. Emphatically no.
Ksmiami
@livewyre: PS- not actually “calling” for destruction but Putin is on a path that will lead to it. Not because anyone wants it, but that he chose this… and I don’t see the Russian people turning back from the brink. And yes it’s frightening because of the nukes, but allowing Russia to win anything from this struggle only sets us up for worse.
Uninvited Guest
@Ksmiami:
It might be easier to take this opinion seriously if it wasn’t always the first place you go to.
Another Scott
Rumblings of a BoJo confidence vote in the UK parliament today.
(via gavmacn)
Cheers,
Scott.
Gin & Tonic
@Grumpy Old Railroader: Spend some time on russian social media and you will know precisely how bloodthirsty the average russian is.
debbie
Michael Tracy’s getting the crap kicked out of him on Twitter for suggesting Zelenskyy might be better off running the military rather than his “myriad PR initiatives.”
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1533665094021922816?s=20&t=hI1WWJgFlzOarFJX0Q1Zpg
This guy seems to live for punishment.
AnotherKevin
Amen
Andrya
I think we can hold two things in our minds at the same time.
Putin absolutely has to be stopped, not only for Ukraine’s sake but for the security of the world.
Unfortunately, this requires killing a lot of russians, who may be terrified by the regieme or misinformed by propaganda. They may be a terrified 18-year old conscript (Putin clearly lied about sending conscripts to Ukraine) or a guy from Asian russia for whom the army was the only escape from poverty. Their deaths are often horrible (incinerated in a burning tank) but are absolutely necessary.
If we look at it like that, can’t we stop getting mad at each other? If my fears, expressed the other night- that the Republicans will end US aid to Ukraine- have any validity, then, at a minimum, the pro-Ukraine left has to be absolutely united.
ksmiami
@Gin & Tonic: I went to several pro-Ukrainian rallies in Bucharest. Heartbreaking – but if we are going to cow tow to not hurting Russians, the war is already lost.
livewyre
@Andrya: Sitting up with the dead thread: I think we need to hold more than two things in our minds at once, and we may not be able to stop getting mad at each other. Everyone seems to have their own idea about how to fight or not fight war, including who started it, and what definition of “who” to apply. To me, defending Ukraine and defending democracy are the same (necessary) thing. No one can vote to have their hometown wiped out, hopefully obviously. But that’s not an opinion everyone shares.
Even now there are dark hints about The Average enemy individual – left unstated, the question of whether some kinds of people are just worthless and need getting rid of, or maybe whether they count as people at all. The line I draw is different from some others here – I don’t consider blood or geography or language to factor in, whereas others may. That’s food for a fight even if no one specifically wants to. I’m just glad this fight is constrained to the keyboard (and this post to the depths).
AnotherKevin
@Chetan Murthy: He truly is remarkable. Even if one is a hard core cynic that insists on viewing his presentations as just putting on a show (I do not share that view), his words, pitch, demeanor, etc. are so amazingly perfect. He is head and shoulders above any other political leader in the world.
West Coast Steve
This guy? Black PSYOP, l’Affaire Ukraine, AG Barr’s Investigation, and the Impeachment Inquiry of the President