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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Excellent Links / GOP Venality / Stupidity Open Thread: The Hunter Investigation Squad Found A Kindred Spirit

GOP Venality / Stupidity Open Thread: The Hunter Investigation Squad Found A Kindred Spirit

by Anne Laurie|  March 3, 20248:42 am| 291 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, Impeachment Inquiry, Republican Stupidity, Republican Venality

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If the bank records prove anything then indict him. Otherwise and this bullshit charade.

Because that’s all you have?

— Gary Koepnick (@garykoepnick) March 2, 2024


If you can bring yourself to listen to 30 seconds of Jim Comer… dude is frantic that all the spinning plates are come crashing down, some of them possibly on his own head. We had full faith in Informant Smirnov, because he told us exactly what we wanted to hear!

How clean is the dirt on Hunter Biden? A key Republican source is charged with lying to the FBI https://t.co/gaX0zCipGj

— The Associated Press (@AP) March 2, 2024

Smirnov seems to be what Georgette Heyer would have styled ‘a plausible rogue’ — plausible only to those looking to believe. From the Associated Press, “How clean is the dirt on Hunter Biden? A key Republican source is charged with lying to the FBI”:

Alexander Smirnov was cast by Republicans as one of the FBI’s most trusted informants, offering a “highly credible” account of brazen public corruption by Joe Biden that formed a pillar of the House impeachment investigation of the Democratic president.

Then, last month, the script changed dramatically.

Smirnov, 43, finds himself charged with lying to the FBI, accused of fabricating a tale of bribery and espionage involving then-Vice President Biden and the Ukrainian energy company Burisma, and he has told officials he has Russian intelligence contacts…

Interviews and a review of public records by The Associated Press suggest this was not likely Smirnov’s first turn in what the government says is a cycle as a fabulist.

They offer a portrait of a businessman who operated a string of murky shell companies, ran with others who have been accused of fraud, and boasted of his own ties to the FBI. The episode highlights not only the perils of the Republicans’ reliance on unverified information in their quest to confront Biden but also the risks inherent in the FBI’s use of sometimes-unreliable informants who may have ulterior motives.

“How come in all of the universe nobody in America figured out for years that this guy is a fraud and a liar? How did this (expletive) make its way to Congress?” said Yossi Attia, a Los Angeles businessman who has interacted with Smirnov and once ran a penny stock company in which Smirnov held a substantial stake.…

Little is known publicly about Smirnov other than allegations in the government’s case, court records, corporate financial disclosures and business filings.

A dual Israeli and U.S. citizen, Smirnov moved to the United States in 2006, traveling in Los Angeles’ Eastern European expatriate circles for more than a decade while providing information to the FBI. It wasn’t immediately clear what investigations Smirnov may have contributed to, though he worked with an FBI handler based in Seattle and the indictment suggests he provided reporting related to “ROC” — a likely reference to Russian organized crime.

A short biography included in a corporate financial document from 2011 describes Smirnov as a veteran businessman “fluent in Russian, English, Hebrew and Arabic” who once was president of a “private mineral and logistic operation, with assets in Russia.”

Even as Smirnov was being paid as a government informant, he participated in duplicitous business schemes, according to court records and interviews…

In 2016, Tigran Sarkisyan and Hripsime Khachtryan sued Smirnov, claiming he pitched them on a company called Grand Pacaraima Gold Corp. It was only after paying him $100,000 that the two discovered the stock certificates Smirnov provided were fake, according to the complaint. When they approached him about it, Smirnov told them he was working with authorities on a fraud investigation that did not involve them and he “continued to make excuses and lie” about their investment, the complaint said.

The suit was dismissed in 2018 when Sarkisyan and Khachatryan failed to show up for a court date because they were incarcerated. The two been sentenced to prison for racketeering weeks earlier in a far-reaching case against dozens of defendants that included allegations of fraud, money laundering and murder-for-hire, court records show.

Another acquaintance, Dmitry Fomichev, sued Smirnov in 2013, claiming Smirnov failed to repay a $500,000 loan. Court records state Smirnov boasted of his connections with the FBI and said he could help Fomichev “resolve certain matters then being investigated by several agencies of the federal government” in exchange for the loan.

Several months later, Fomichev was indicted on tax and immigration charges and sentenced to probation. A Los Angeles judge ruled in Fomichev’s favor in the civil case, though, issuing a nearly $600,000 judgement against Smirnov…

Prosecutors also have emphasized Smirnov’s preoccupation with keeping his accumulated wealth out of his own name, noting how he would withdraw large sums and use it to purchase cashier’s checks to give to his longtime girlfriend. After moving to Las Vegas in 2022, he gave her money to purchase a $1 million condo just off Elvis Presley Boulevard that is owned under her name, records show.

Smirnov told his FBI handler in 2017 that the Biden family name surfaced during a business call he had with a representative for Burisma, where Biden’s son Hunter served on the company’s board.

But after Donald Trump and his allies, including Rudy Giuliani, acting as a Trump lawyer, began to peddle unsupported corruption claims involving the Bidens and Ukraine before the 2020 presidential election, Smirnov’s story grew more elaborate…

All this money floating around, and a cadre of variously dim-witted and dishonest Repub ‘business experts’ just begging to be lied to! Could any self-respecting con artist resist such temptation, even given the odds against success over the long term?

Drawn in 30 seconds #Smirnov #Republicans #liars #Russia #Vodka #Cartoon #Timelapse #DrawnIn30Seconds pic.twitter.com/lKKscoHVEK

— Clay Jones (@claytoonz) February 23, 2024

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  1. 1.

    NotMax

    March 3, 2024 at 8:47 am

    “He who slings mud generally loses ground.”
    – Adlai Stevenson
    .

  2. 2.

    rikyrah

    March 3, 2024 at 8:57 am

    Good Morning, Everyone😊😊😊

  3. 3.

    rikyrah

    March 3, 2024 at 8:58 am

     

    Symone D. Sanders Townsend (@SymoneDSanders) posted at 9:07 PM on Sat, Mar 02, 2024:

    This is a lie. The unemployment rate under Trump for Black Americans at its lowest was 5.9% & that was August of 2019. In 2020 the last year of Trump’s presidency it was 16.8%

    The “lowest ever” was under Biden at 5% in April 2023. The lowest since the 1970s. Remarkable given what the # was when Biden took office.

    I hate arguing about this b/c Black unemployment has consistently been higher than overall unemployment, but this baseless lie from Black people who know better is just too much.

    (https://x.com/SymoneDSanders/status/1764125531270738391?s=02)

  4. 4.

    rikyrah

    March 3, 2024 at 9:01 am

     

    Susan Bordson (@susanbordson) posted at 10:36 AM on Sat, Mar 02, 2024:
    CNN obtained slides from No Labels that are evidence the org is planfully designing messaging to hurt Pres Biden by intentionally MISREPRESENTING the Biden-Harris Admin’s policy positions.

    Their talking points exactly parrot right-wing media messaging
    https://t.co/k22pgOQRv4 https://t.co/Vk7pF678W6
    (https://x.com/susanbordson/status/1763966576808648973?s=02)

  5. 5.

    Betty Cracker

    March 3, 2024 at 9:07 am

    I realize the FBI has to work with sleaze bags to get intel on other sleaze bags. But the unforgivable thing is that Smirnov was peddling a fantasy that had been debunked FIVE YEARS PREVIOUSLY. It wasn’t a secret to anybody — we had a whole goddamn impeachment trial that included the same steaming load of horseshit.

    As I’ve said in my posts, it’s a measure of how dysfunctional our political press is that the House GOP isn’t being pilloried daily on front pages nationwide for serving as a Russian intelligence tool. That would be a 5-alarm scandal in a healthy democracy.

    But DOJ dysfunction is arguably more consequential. It’s way past time to clean house.

  6. 6.

    sdhays

    March 3, 2024 at 9:08 am

    @rikyrah: That can’t be true. There’s no way an organization funded by Clarence Thomas’ best billionaire friend would be trying to hurt President Biden.

    Oh, wait. That’s exactly what it would be trying to do.

  7. 7.

    Miss Bianca

    March 3, 2024 at 9:09 am

    Georgette Heyer quote FOR THE WIN!

  8. 8.

    lowtechcyclist

    March 3, 2024 at 9:10 am

    @rikyrah: ​
     

    As their grift collapses, I guess they’ve got to do their best to keep those checks from Harlan Crow coming.

  9. 9.

    Mousebumples

    March 3, 2024 at 9:12 am

    https://bsky.app/profile/collinwoodard.bsky.social/post/3kmioctttuu2o

    Shawn Fain Told Us He’d Put His Whole Unussy Into Organizing More Factories, And By God, He’s Doing It

    https://www.al.com/news/2024/02/majority-of-workers-at-alabama-mercedes-benz-plant-have-joined-uaw-union-says.html

    From the linked article –

    The United Auto Workers Tuesday announced that more than half of the employees at Mercedes-Benz’s Vance plant have signed union cards.

    It’s a stunning announcement for an auto factory in a right-to-work state that has historically resisted the union’s organizing efforts in the 27 years since the German automaker opened the plant – the first in Alabama.

    And the news comes only two months into an organizing drive by the union in Southern auto factories.

    Earlier this month, the UAW announced that more than 50% of workers at Volkswagen’s Chattanooga plant had signed union cards, while 30% have shown union support at Hyundai’s Montgomery plant.

    …

    In a video released by the union, Mercedes worker Jeremy Kimbrell, surrounded by coworkers, said they “are ready to win our union and a better life with the UAW.”

    “There comes a time when enough is enough,” he said. “Now is that time. We know what the company, what the politicians, and what their multi-millionaire buddies will say. They’ll say now is not the right time. Or that this is not the right way. But here’s the thing. This is our decision. It’s our life. It’s our community. These are our families. It’s up to us.”

    …

    More than 10,000 non-union autoworkers across 14 auto companies have signed union cards since last year, according to the UAW.

    I’ve got a few more similar links/quotes, but I’ll split them into separate comments to avoid upsetting the spam filter with too many links.

    But yay for successful union organizing!

  10. 10.

    sdhays

    March 3, 2024 at 9:12 am

    @Betty Cracker: Agree 100%.

  11. 11.

    Mousebumples

    March 3, 2024 at 9:18 am

    All of these below are from the same longer thread. I picked out a few of my favorite Skeets, but feel free to click over for more of the discussion.

    https://bsky.app/profile/niedermeyer.io/post/3kmioq5bjle2a

    My only high-confidence political take right now is that everyone is wildly underestimating the massive UAW-led organized labor comeback as a factor in the election.

    Disillusioned union guys swung key states for Trump in 2016, and now they don’t exist and the union is playing offense and winning.

     

    https://bsky.app/profile/mtsw.bsky.social/post/3kmiqkkm4uz2z

    “this guy who just was able to secure me and my coworkers says to vote for this candidate and we will get even more money” is about as powerful a political pitch as it’s possible to muster

    Also seeing a lot of takes on this that assume most or all auto workers are white. The value to a muscular UAW is in part activating and turning out African American voters in key states as much as persuading swingy/Trumpy WWC voters

     

    https://bsky.app/profile/niedermeyer.io/post/3kmirapyb6u2a

    Exactly. It marginalizes the guys who exploited weak union leadership to agitate for Trump, and it empowers the more diverse and centrist elements of the workforce (women as well as POC). It’s strong defense on a historical weak point in blue/swing states AND a strong offense in redder states.

    I think Kay has been talking about this for awhile – Biden/Harris administration is the best for union labor in decades. I can’t say I know what to expect from a powerful UAW GOTV operation, but it makes me optimistic.

  12. 12.

    dmsilev

    March 3, 2024 at 9:19 am

    They really really really want another “but her emails!” Benghazi investigation, where they can take some tiny nothingburger that _sounds_ bad and blow it way out of proportion. That’s all they know how to do any more.

  13. 13.

    Frankensteinbeck

    March 3, 2024 at 9:30 am

    We had full faith in Informant Smirnov, because he told us exactly what we wanted to hear!

    This is the Republican Party from grassroots to plutocrats to think tanks to elected officials.  It’s their ethos.  Reality has a liberal bias, so fuck reality.  They will go looking for better facts, and believe those facts utterly, even if that leads them to walk off a cliff.

    I’ll say this for that asshole bigot McConnell, he’s smart enough to see reality in front of him, even if his utter evil makes his decisions obscene.

  14. 14.

    Sid

    March 3, 2024 at 9:30 am

    It’s a mystery that Smirnov is still alive.

  15. 15.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 3, 2024 at 9:32 am

    @Betty Cracker: ​I realize the FBI has to work with sleaze bags to get intel on other sleaze bags.

    Yep, and hopefully they treat all informant statements with the requisite doubt until confirmed by a 2nd independent source. Unfortunately they are humans with all the typical blind spots.

  16. 16.

    BlueGuitarist

    March 3, 2024 at 9:33 am

    @rikyrah:
    Good morning!

  17. 17.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 3, 2024 at 9:33 am

    @Mousebumples: Good news indeed.

  18. 18.

    BlueGuitarist

    March 3, 2024 at 9:34 am

    @Mousebumples:

    🎶 There is power in a union!

  19. 19.

    delphinium

    March 3, 2024 at 9:34 am

    @Mousebumples: Great news!

  20. 20.

    Frankensteinbeck

    March 3, 2024 at 9:37 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    hopefully they treat all informant statements with the requisite doubt

    I thought they did.  Part of the point of this debacle was that the FBI had this document in their ‘probably bullshit’ file but Republicans demanded a copy and waved it around as if it were confirmed truth.

  21. 21.

    dmsilev

    March 3, 2024 at 9:38 am

    The Post covers Lauren Boebert:

    She landed in the town of Windsor, a four-hour drive east, and moved into the first house that struck her fancy (“I’m very impulsive,” she said). She found a local charter school for her boys and has been looking for the kind of church that wouldn’t mind her rowdiness.

    “People were freaking out about me dancing in the seat at ‘Beetlejuice,’” she said, referring to an incident, caught on a security camera, in which the congresswoman was escorted from a Denver theater after vaping and getting handsy with a male companion. “Well, they should see me in church.”

    If it’s more extreme than her Beetlejuice ‘performance ‘,  think I speak for many in saying that no, we really shouldn’t see what she does, and what sort of ‘church’ is this anyway?

  22. 22.

    Suzanne

    March 3, 2024 at 9:39 am

    @Mousebumples:

    My only high-confidence political take right now is that everyone is wildly underestimating the massive UAW-led organized labor comeback as a factor in the election.

    Disillusioned union guys swung key states for Trump in 2016, and now they don’t exist and the union is playing offense and winning.

    Let’s hope.

  23. 23.

    Marcopolo

    March 3, 2024 at 9:42 am

    So Misery held its Republican presidential caucuses yesterday and the orange blob won all the delegates.  Was looking to see if there was any reporting that broke out actual numbers for supporters of different candidates inside the caucus locations but could not find any.  Apparently, reporters were not allowed in.  However, as one of my friends remarked, “can you imagine trying to caucus for Haley? I’d be afraid for my safety.”  Not sure if that is the primary reason why all of these states R parties have abandoned primaries for caucuses but I’m sure it’s one reason.  Less democracy, less transparency, more control.

  24. 24.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 3, 2024 at 9:45 am

    @Frankensteinbeck: I haven’t been following the details of this particular conspiracy because I know it’s all bullshit and prefer to focus my energies on things more substantive.

    As to what I said above, every now and again an agent gets taken in by somebody they have built up a relationship with over the years. The system is supposed to keep that from happening but every now and again one slips thru the cracks.

    @Marcopolo: Less democracy, less transparency, more control.

    Ding ding ding….

  25. 25.

    JML

    March 3, 2024 at 9:46 am

    @Mousebumples: It’s 100% true: Biden-Harris administration is easily the most pro-Labor administration in my lifetime. Obama was not great a great Labor president; while he wasn’t opposed to organizing, he did teachers dirty with his crap Education Secretary and simply didn’t make it a priority (and was, like a lot of elites, skeptical of union expansion into service areas and “white-collar” professions). Clinton was poor on Labor and NAFTA drove a lot of union households out of the democratic party. Carter wasn’t great on Labor issues; most of what was done for unions in those days was through Congress (and to be fair, Labor needed to evolve badly during the 70’s and it took a long time).

    I think it goes without saying that no Republican administration has been good for Labor since…Eisenhower? Maybe? They’ve consistently fucked working people for decades and sided with corporate every single time for at least 60 years.

    Love seeing UAW finally seeing some success at the plants in the south. Could be huge in finally flipping some of these states from being MAGA strongholds.

  26. 26.

    Marcopolo

    March 3, 2024 at 9:47 am

    @Mousebumples: Never underestimate the average Americans ability to (not) connect dots.  I hope that UAW (and other union) members make the connection between their success at the bargaining table & the Biden administration’s support for unions & organizing (in particular through the actions of the NLRB).  Guess we’ll see.  Also think the 180 degree about turn by Starbucks vis a vis union organizing is related to this as well.

  27. 27.

    Frankensteinbeck

    March 3, 2024 at 9:47 am

    @dmsilev:

    “Well, they should see me in church.”

    Man.  It’s a good day for summing up conservatives, because that’s the evangelical mindset in a nutshell.  Who cares about her actions?  She yells Jesus properly!

  28. 28.

    Brachiator

    March 3, 2024 at 9:48 am

    How clean is the dirt on Hunter Biden? A key Republican source is charged with lying to the FBI

    This is tiresome. The Republicans pretty much said that they wanted to impeach Biden, from the moment he was elected. They ran off searching for evidence, even though there was never any underlying crime, criminal investigation or convictions of anybody for anything.

    Trump and his family, Clarence Thomas all have obvious conflicts of interest that have been ignored, overlooked, even celebrated. But Hunter Biden’s laptop must pay for its sins.

  29. 29.

    Spanky

    March 3, 2024 at 9:50 am

    @dmsilev:

    If it’s more extreme than her Beetlejuice ‘performance ‘,  think I speak for many in saying that no, we really shouldn’t see what she does, and what sort of ‘church’ is this anyway?

    One of them thar snake-handling churches.

  30. 30.

    Mousebumples

    March 3, 2024 at 9:51 am

    @JML: my first presidential election as a voter was 2004, but my uncle was UAW. Very liberal, which was atypical in the very red county I grew up in. He passed away in 2019, but I’m thinking of him with this union revitalization.

    @Marcopolo: I’m not sure what it means, but I’d rather be us than them, with UAW on our side.

  31. 31.

    JPL

    March 3, 2024 at 9:52 am

    @Suzanne: I don’t have a lot of faith in Shawn Fain, since the UAW donated more to republicans than democrats.   We’ll see

    BTW  Congratulations!

  32. 32.

    NotMax

    March 3, 2024 at 9:55 am

    Soo-prize, soo-prize.

    Thirty-nine of Michigan’s 55 congressional district delegates were awarded based on Saturday’s caucus.
    [snip]
    After about five hours of caucusing, Trump earned 1,575 votes, or 97.7% of the vote among precinct delegates, sweeping all 39 delegates, according to the Michigan Republican Party’s district convention vote results.

    Haley garnered just 36 votes total, about 2.23% of the share of state delegates, according to the party.

    A candidate can take all three delegates from each district if they received the majority of votes in each, as Trump did on Saturday. Source

  33. 33.

    Betty

    March 3, 2024 at 9:59 am

    @Marcopolo: I read that the woman who supported Haley was screamed at by the Trump supporters. Sounded very ugly.

  34. 34.

    Betty

    March 3, 2024 at 10:00 am

    @JPL: Wasn’t that the Teamsters? Fain has been very clear about his support of Biden.

  35. 35.

    Frankensteinbeck

    March 3, 2024 at 10:01 am

    @NotMax:

    So Trump did vastly better in the caucus than in the primary.  These are the kinds of numbers he should have been getting in the primary.  The Party officials, it seems, are much more dedicated to him than the voters.

  36. 36.

    eclare

    March 3, 2024 at 10:01 am

    @Sid:

    That was my thought.

  37. 37.

    BlueGuitarist

    March 3, 2024 at 10:04 am

    @dmsilev:

    They really really really want another “but her emails!” Benghazi investigation, where they can take some tiny nothingburger that _sounds_ bad and blow it way out of proportion. That’s all they know how to do any more.

    Right!
    They make “Laptop” like “emails” a synonym (synecdoche?) for scandal thru high volume repetition. The folks who don’t accept the phony association with scandal are made to feel like, how can you be so stupid you’ve never heard of a laptop or email, as if not accepting the lie is confessing ignorance.

    As BC says, the press is so dysfunctional.

    Still noteworthy that through the whole 30,000 emails thing the media couldn’t put it in the context of the W administration’s 22 million emails hidden on RNC servers to hide their corruption and avoid compliance with presidential records act. Or that the ftfnyt still won’t admit their responsibility for the consequences of vastly overhyping that nothing burger.

    maybe Hunter’s “I would have gone to the Apple Store” can be the common sense entry into breaking down the whole preposterous saga.

    hunter’s Apple laptop which he would have taken to the Apple Store

  38. 38.

    RaflW

    March 3, 2024 at 10:05 am

    “Alexander Smirnov was cast by Republicans as one of the FBI’s most trusted informants, offering a ‘highly credible’ account of brazen public corruption”

    I know it’s been discussed before, but Rep. Ken Buck of CO, hardly a waffling centrist, was questioning the credibility of this witness more than six months ago. He could see, even from his MAGA perch, that the whole case was structured on one witness of unknown quality.

    But the GOP House is 90% easy marks for the Russians — and somewhere between 1-5% owned by the Russians. Somehow that last bit doesn’t seem to be a tasty chew toy for the press to investigate.

  39. 39.

    Betty Cracker

    March 3, 2024 at 10:08 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: & @Frankensteinbeck: There are bad actors in the DOJ. This isn’t news to anyone, I know, but it’s pretty consequential since they’ve helped Russian intelligence services coopt a chamber of the US Congress. Rep. Nadler gets it:

    In a letter on Thursday (2/22) to Attorney General Merrick Garland and Inspector General Michael Horowitz, Nadler, a New York Democrat, wrote that it “seems unlikely” that [former U.S. Attorney for Pittsburgh Scott] Brady testified to the House Judiciary Committee in October about how the allegations were brought to his attention, according to a newly published transcript.

    Through his testimony, “Mr. Brady appears to have been part of a deliberate attempt to launder foreign disinformation through the Department of Justice,” Nadler wrote.

    Maybe it’s no surprise that Trump holdovers at the DOJ are feeding Russian disinfo to Congress, but it’s intolerable. We need to clean that Augean Stable, stat.

  40. 40.

    Nukular Biskits

    March 3, 2024 at 10:09 am

    Good mornin’, y’all.

    Slow moving here … too much … uh … “adulting” last night.

  41. 41.

    kalakal

    March 3, 2024 at 10:11 am

    People were freaking out about me dancing in the seat at ‘Beetlejuice,’”

    Euphemism of the day

  42. 42.

    Geminid

    March 3, 2024 at 10:12 am

    Chef Jose Andrès was scheduled to appear this morning on ABC’s “This Week.” He’ll probably have something to say about relief efforts in Gaza.

  43. 43.

    SFAW

    March 3, 2024 at 10:13 am

    @Suzanne: ​
     

    Let’s hope.

    “Hope is not a stragerty.”
    Kidding, of course — just trying to annoy the crap out of various commenters. [I know, I know — who’d a thunk?]

  44. 44.

    eclare

    March 3, 2024 at 10:13 am

    @kalakal:

    Seriously.

  45. 45.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 3, 2024 at 10:13 am

    @Betty Cracker: We need to clean that Augean Stable, stat.

    Yep.

  46. 46.

    SFAW

    March 3, 2024 at 10:14 am

    @kalakal:

    Well, she was doing a lap-dance-adjacent thing.

  47. 47.

    S Cerevisiae

    March 3, 2024 at 10:15 am

    @Spanky: ok that made me lol

    One of them thar snake-handling churches.

  48. 48.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 10:15 am

    It’s Sunday and I’ma tell a story.  One of my favorite locals at our former little country church took the Easter opportunity to actually throw hot cross buns at us while we were exiting.  Had a good arm for his advanced age and even pummeled our car as we pulled away after landing one on my butt 😆 he had a naughty streak that wouldn’t quit.  He used to run a tiny country store and we’d go in for coffee after a hard night on a long weekend fishing. He’d yell “Are ya hungover!” at the top of his lungs.

    https://www.wonkette.com/p/those-cakes-we-like-are-raisin-hell

  49. 49.

    SFAW

    March 3, 2024 at 10:18 am

    @RaflW: ​
     

    But the GOP House is 90% easy marks for the Russians — and somewhere between 1-5% owned by the Russians

    The “easy marks” implies (to me, at least) that they’re dupes. I think they’re more likely willing assets, because “better a Rooskie than a Demon-crap.” Yeah, there are some morons there who don’t know any better, but not that many.

  50. 50.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 10:21 am

    @Nukular Biskits: 😆❤️🌹

  51. 51.

    BlueGuitarist

    March 3, 2024 at 10:26 am

    @Betty:

    @JPL:

    According to open secrets data in the last 5 elections the smallest share UAW gave Democrats was 98.4%; smallest share from teamsters to Democrats was 92.2%.

    last 5 elections = 2016 thru 2022; in 2024 neither  has yet given 1% of their smallest election cycle contribution

  52. 52.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    March 3, 2024 at 10:30 am

    @Betty Cracker: They didn’t like the debunking so they demanded the original (false) statements that they thought could be massaged into come convincing shape.

    We’ve seen this before. For me, it brings to mind how Cheney didn’t like what the intelligence community was concluding so he demanded (and got) “raw intelligence” so he could put out his own intelligence analysis.
    We’re lucky that the current crop of clowns is less competent.​

  53. 53.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 10:30 am

    @eclare: if she tried to “present herself” any harder that night, her tits woulda been firing bullets.

  54. 54.

    billcinsd

    March 3, 2024 at 10:32 am

    @SFAW: or more Willie and the Hand Jive

  55. 55.

    Bex

    March 3, 2024 at 10:33 am

    @Sid: Dead man walking.

  56. 56.

    JPL

    March 3, 2024 at 10:33 am

    @Betty:  It was!   I’m glad that I was wrong, but unions should support Biden.  The police union will stand with trump though.

  57. 57.

    Miss Bianca

    March 3, 2024 at 10:34 am

    @dmsilev: “they should see me in church”?

    What, is she blowing the minister or something?

  58. 58.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 10:37 am

    @Miss Bianca: 😆😭🤮

  59. 59.

    Uncle Cosmo

    March 3, 2024 at 10:39 am

    @JPL: I don’t have a lot of faith in Shawn Fain, since the UAW donated more to republicans than democrats.

    ‘Scuse me, but don’t you mean the Teamsters (45K to Thugs vs 30K to Dems)? Or did I miss something here that you can link to & enlighten me? (Cf. Betty @ #34 supra.)

  60. 60.

    Baud

    March 3, 2024 at 10:39 am

    @JPL:

    I get that unions play both sides like corporations do.

    OTOH, I’ve never been asked to support corporations on moral principle.

  61. 61.

    Bill Arnold

    March 3, 2024 at 10:40 am

    @Spanky:

    One of them thar snake-handling churches.

    Laughed. Laughed again. :-)

  62. 62.

    Suzanne

    March 3, 2024 at 10:40 am

    @SFAW: Hope is absolutely not a strategy. But it can be a step toward a strategy. Let’s pull plan the election! That’s a strategy.

    A good piece in TNR: Has Zionism Lost the Argument?

  63. 63.

    JPL

    March 3, 2024 at 10:40 am

    @Uncle Cosmo: yup  see my comment at 51

  64. 64.

    eversor

    March 3, 2024 at 10:50 am

    @Betty:

    It was vastly worse than “the woman who supported Haley”.

    The reporting was that they made all the Haley supporters stand in a line and then started screaming, yelling, threatening, and berating all of them.  It also wasn’t isolated to that incident which is the one that made news and had a woman reduced to tears from it.  It was multiple incidents.

    This is an important distinction.   As it indicates that rather than a one off incident this sort of mass indimidation can be expected in the general election.

    Press wasn’t allowed in those places.  So the details that are trickling out are from people who were there to participate and were hooked into the larger GOP and expressed concern over it.

    Caucuses have always been prone to indimidation but this is on a new level.

  65. 65.

    Starfish

    March 3, 2024 at 10:55 am

    @JPL: A lot of people have been criticizing unions for doing this, but I think that corporations and organizations that want to move policy need to donate to both sides unless they want to be shut out if an election does not go their way.

  66. 66.

    oldgold

    March 3, 2024 at 10:56 am

    The New York Times is annoying and often worse, but cancelling your subscription is not the answer to what ails us.

    Trump, almost unbelievably, is getting worse. On the campaign trail and in court he has been a shit factory the likes of which have never witnessed in this country. Yet, he seems to pay no political price his execrable conduct. In fact, if the polls are to believed, he is gaining momentum.

    We have a message and/or messenger problem. Time is running out to fix this. Hard questions need to be asked. Hard decisions need to be made. Or, very hard time may lie ahead.

  67. 67.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 3, 2024 at 11:02 am

    @oldgold: The New York Times is annoying and often worse, but cancelling your subscription is not the answer to what ails us.

    Of course it isn’t.  Then again, no one was really saying that it was.  What it is, though, is a valid decision that people can chose to make about the use of their own money.

    BTW Biden is going to be the Democratic nominee.  You are just going to have to accept it.

  68. 68.

    debit

    March 3, 2024 at 11:07 am

    @oldgold: Hard questions need to be asked. Hard decisions need to be made. Or, very hard time may lie ahead.

     

    Ok, Dean Phillips.

  69. 69.

    Scout211

    March 3, 2024 at 11:10 am

    Interesting.  AP News  found Republican primary voters who say they will not vote for Trump in November.

    WASHINGTON (AP) — A small but substantial chunk of Republican primary and caucus voters say they would be so dissatisfied if Donald Trump became the party’s presidential nominee that they would not vote for him in November’s general election, according to AP VoteCast.

    An analysis of the data shows that many of those voters were unlikely to vote for Trump, some even before this year, but it still points to potential problems for the former president as he looks to consolidate the nomination and pivot toward an expected rematch with Democratic President Joe Biden.

    According to AP VoteCast surveys of the first three head-to-head Republican contests, 2 in 10 Iowa voters, one-third of New Hampshire voters, and one-quarter of South Carolina voters would be so disappointed by Trump’s renomination that they would refuse to vote for him in the fall.

    They even interviewed some of those non-Trump Republican voters in the wild.

    Still no word from all those Biden voters who will vote for Biden to be re-elected, though.  They must be out there somewhere . . .

  70. 70.

    SFAW

    March 3, 2024 at 11:11 am

    @Suzanne: ​

    Hope is absolutely not a strategy. But it can be a step toward a strategy. Let’s pull plan the election! That’s a strategy.

    Exactly.
    Semi-related, but absolutely serious question. To my semi-feeble mind, planning/managing a campaign is not very different from planning/managing a large project. Determining what resources are needed, marshaling those resources, scheduling when/how those resources are used. The only significant difference I see (so far) is that getting people’s votes is typically less “concrete” than the result of a project (such as a hospital).
    Given that preface: have you ever thought about trying to run a campaign?​

  71. 71.

    Frankensteinbeck

    March 3, 2024 at 11:12 am

    I just heard the TV news say that Trump’s speech about languages is a sign of ‘cognitive decline.’  (They did not leave out fascist rhetoric.). If Trump being the senile one touches the mainstream, Trump is in trouble.  He provides vast amounts of blatant evidence.

  72. 72.

    RepubAnon

    March 3, 2024 at 11:12 am

    @dmsilev: It’s odd that nobody asks Republicans why their hearings are not held by the Weaponization of Government committee. After all, that’s what Republicans do.

  73. 73.

    SFAW

    March 3, 2024 at 11:13 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    BTW Biden is going to be the Democratic nominee. You are just going to have to accept it.

    OK, but I’m distressed that Biden is a whole day older than he was yesterday!

  74. 74.

    SFAW

    March 3, 2024 at 11:15 am

    @RepubAnon:

    The FTFTFNYT Style desk will get right on that.

  75. 75.

    dirge

    March 3, 2024 at 11:16 am

    @JPL: The police union will stand with trump though.

    In most places, the police union isn’t a union.  It’s a street gang.

  76. 76.

    Miss Bianca

    March 3, 2024 at 11:24 am

    @Frankensteinbeck: Huh. That’s the first I’ve heard about TV news starting to go after Trump.

    Maybe some newsies are starting to wake up to the fact that Trump’s American fascism may be cute and kicky and get them clicks, but ultimately it’s going to be bad for them, too?

    Or maybe they’ve figured out that “Trump in decline” might be even better clickbait than “Biden is old”?

  77. 77.

    CliosFanBoy

    March 3, 2024 at 11:25 am

    @Frankensteinbeck:

      Which is exactly what they did in 2002-2003 with CIA’s Iraq reports. Cheney was over there literally every week pressing fore “proof” that Iraq had WMDs, and brown-nosing upper managers (I’m looking at you Tenet!) handed over the material from “this source has no access and no history accuracy” reports.

  78. 78.

    Scout211

    March 3, 2024 at 11:25 am

    @Frankensteinbeck: If Trump being the senile one touches the mainstream, Trump is in trouble.  He provides vast amounts of blatant evidence.

    His current excuse that he uses in order to cover up his mixing up of people’s names and other verbal mistakes is, “I meant to do that!”  

    Ha ha.  So funny that jokester Trump.  Always with that great sense of humor, especially the humor that makes him look like he is in cognitive decline.  Oh yeah, he loves that kind of humor.  LOL

    Last night he mixed up President Obama with President Biden and the media is starting to talk about that more.  I’m sure his fans will accept his claim that he did that on purpose for whatever he says his reasons are, but I don’t think that excuse will go very far past his MAGA fans.  I guess we will see now that the Biden-Harris team is attacking him directly on his cognitive issues.

  79. 79.

    Nettoyeur

    March 3, 2024 at 11:27 am

    @eclare:  What profiteth a man who wins the support of 98% of ultra rightwing crazies at the cost of the support of everyone else?

  80. 80.

    taumaturgo

    March 3, 2024 at 11:30 am

    @Marcopolo:

    No one ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the American public. H. L. Mencken

  81. 81.

    Bill Arnold

    March 3, 2024 at 11:33 am

    @Scout211:

    His current excuse that he uses in order to cover up his mixing up of people’s names and other verbal mistakes is, “I meant to do that!”

    “You know, Argentina, great guy. He’s a big trump guy. He loves Trump. I love him because he loves trump Anybody that loves me. I like them.”
    DJT could not remember the name of the new President of Argentina (Javier Milei), so he went with “Argentina, great guy”.

  82. 82.

    Baud

    March 3, 2024 at 11:38 am

    @taumaturgo:

    Didn’t people lose money betting on a Trump win in 2020?

  83. 83.

    SFAW

    March 3, 2024 at 11:40 am

    @Baud:

    Fox sure did.

    ETA: OK, OK, so technically, the Dominion lawsuit wasn’t exactly a part of the bet.

  84. 84.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 11:40 am

    * chef’s kiss for Tiedrich today.  A new monetary system is taking hold 😆

    https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/dumb-ass-trumpers-are-getting-scammed

  85. 85.

    Another Scott

    March 3, 2024 at 11:43 am

    Local – on the scene – coverage from yesterday in Greensboro:

    Trump spoke at the Greensboro Coliseum’s Special Event Center, where the packed venue holds around 5,000 people. We were told there were more people who could not get in.

    “We were told…”

    No matter how big (or small) the place, there are always people who cannot get in.

    Funny, that.

    “Yeah, your lying eyes show hundreds or thousands of empty seats, but we kept that guy from CNN out, so we’re not lying about that.”

    [ groucho-roll-eyes.gif ]

    Something like 1.7M people live in the Triad area…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  86. 86.

    sdhays

    March 3, 2024 at 11:44 am

    @Baud: Corporations are people, my friend!

  87. 87.

    eclare

    March 3, 2024 at 11:45 am

    @SFAW:

    Hahaha….good one.

  88. 88.

    gene108

    March 3, 2024 at 11:46 am

    @BlueGuitarist:

    They make “Laptop” like “emails” a synonym (synecdoche?) for scandal thru high volume repetition. The folks who don’t accept the phony association with scandal are made to feel like, how can you be so stupid you’ve never heard of a laptop or email, as if not accepting the lie is confessing ignorance.

    This is what the MSM does to Democrats, at least beginning with the Clinton administration. Republican media starts dropping rumors and innuendo that something bad may might’ve happened. They blow a lot of smoke. The MSM runs with it like there’s an actual fire there. The MSM did this with Whitewater, Travelgate, etc. They did this to Gore about “inventing” the internet.

    They wanted to do this with Obama, but he had to be super careful to get where he did as fast as he did. They could not find any innuendo to gossip monger about.

    I think the DC political media are a bunch of town gossips masquerading as news reporters. They love finding a rumor about a Democrat and spreading it like wildfire through their media outlets. It’s like, “OMG! Did you see Barack Obama wore a tan suit. How scandalous!” or The Clinton Foundation accepts money from wealthy foreigners. There has to be a scandal there.

    I think it used to be a lot lot worse. With internet, information can bypass the MSM gossip to some extent, so people who are plugged in know about the BS.

  89. 89.

    Nukular Biskits

    March 3, 2024 at 11:48 am

    @Spanky:

    One of them thar snake-handling churches.

    Reminds me of the time we changed churches and attended an SBC church (yes, I  know: groan) and a couple of women from their “welcoming committee” came over one evening to get to know more about us.

    When they asked what church to which we had previously belonged, I told them XYZ Church of God in Gulfport.  Both women got a strange look on their faces and one asked, “Isn’t that where they play with snakes??!?!?”

    I couldn’t resist … 😊I made up an elaborate lie that had my then-spouse looking at me like “WTF are you doing?”.  Both the church ladies suddenly had more urgent matters to attend and left.

    We didn’t attend any more services at that church. LOL!

  90. 90.

    Uncle Cosmo

    March 3, 2024 at 11:48 am

    @JPL: ​Well played, Jet Propulsion Lab!

    (NB A couple of generations back, on a NASA-sponsored junket around the US, I saw the main control room at JPL – and it pissed me off to no end. In its infintesimal whizzdumb NASA had put us up, 30 wannabe astronomers & astrophysicists about to enter our senior years at college, in a motel just down the hill from Mount Wilson Observatory – & instead of taking us there, to one of the biggest pilgrimage sites in our chosen field(s), they stuffed us in a bus & drove us for an hour to see the JPL control room, which looked like nothing so much as a cheap set in a low-budget Japanese sci-fi flick. Still pisses me off to this day, as I have yet to get to Mt Wilson.Grr!)​

  91. 91.

    Jackie

    March 3, 2024 at 11:50 am

    @Mousebumples: YAY!!! 👍🏻

  92. 92.

    Baud

    March 3, 2024 at 11:53 am

    @gene108:

    Agree. The biggest positive these days is that there seems to be a robust counteroffensive to the media spin.

  93. 93.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 3, 2024 at 11:58 am

    The Hunter Investigation Squad Found A Kindred Spirit

    Is it a horse’s ass that’s actively taking a shit?

  94. 94.

    Baud

    March 3, 2024 at 11:58 am

    @Nukular Biskits:

    I made up an elaborate lie that had my then-spouse looking at me like “WTF are you doing?”.

     
    It’s what Jesus would have done.

  95. 95.

    Miss Bianca

    March 3, 2024 at 11:59 am

    @Spanky:

    One of them thar snake-handling churches.

    “One-eyed snake handling or two-eyed snake handling?”

    “Two-eyed snake handling!”

    “DIE, HERETIC!”

  96. 96.

    Glidwrith

    March 3, 2024 at 12:00 pm

    @dirge: Commentor Kay has asked with the number of video cameras around, why the police don’t solve more crimes. It’s because that’s not what they are doing.

  97. 97.

    catclub

    March 3, 2024 at 12:02 pm

    @Betty Cracker: But DOJ dysfunction is arguably more consequential. It’s way past time to clean house.

     

    I think FBI dysfunction is a permanent feature of the organization.

  98. 98.

    Jackie

    March 3, 2024 at 12:04 pm

    @Marcopolo: Your friend was correct:

    Donald Trump supporters at the Missouri Republican Caucus on Saturday attacked fellow attendees who supported the former president’s opponent, a prior member of the “grand old party” reported.

    Former Lincoln Project veterans affairs adviser Fred Wellman, an ex-Republican and current Democratic campaign consultant, reported the aggressive development on social media.

    “I have a friend who attended the Missouri Republican Presidential Caucus today,” he wrote Saturday. “They asked Nikki Haley supporters to line up in the middle of the auditorium and were booed and screamed at by the Trump supporters.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/trump-fans-missouri-caucus-wellman/

  99. 99.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 3, 2024 at 12:04 pm

    A good analysis of the NYT/Siena poll.

  100. 100.

    catclub

    March 3, 2024 at 12:05 pm

    @kalakal: Euphemism of the day

     

    There are Psalms that have a phrase about ‘rejoicing in their beds’.

  101. 101.

    way2blue

    March 3, 2024 at 12:07 pm

    Finally occurred to me (I’m a bit slow in this regard) that one reason, perhaps the main reason, why Comer & Jim Jordan are so vigorously attempting to derail Biden’s re-election—is that the hammer of justice will come for them in a second Biden term.  Justice for their roles in the Jan 6th fiasco.

  102. 102.

    catclub

    March 3, 2024 at 12:07 pm

    @dmsilev: think I speak for many in saying that no, we really shouldn’t see what she does, and what sort of ‘church’ is this anyway?

     

    Didn’t someone else mention snake handling churches?

    ETA: … late, as ever.

  103. 103.

    WaterGirl

    March 3, 2024 at 12:08 pm

    @dmsilev: She was just pulling on his dick in tune with the music. They don’t call that dancing in your neck of the woods?

  104. 104.

    Jackie

    March 3, 2024 at 12:11 pm

    @Spanky: TIFG approves of her Beetlejuice performance; he gave her a ringing 👍🏻👍🏻 endorsement yesterday 🙄

  105. 105.

    catclub

    March 3, 2024 at 12:11 pm

    @gene108: They wanted to do this with Obama, but he had to be super careful to get where he did as fast as he did. They could not find any innuendo to gossip monger about.

     

    I think the media was fairly evenhanded with Obama. John McCain took that as a personal insult. Evenhandedness is not what the media is usually about.

  106. 106.

    JPL

    March 3, 2024 at 12:11 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo: My brother-in-law worked there for awhile.   He was really a right wing nut job.

  107. 107.

    JPL

    March 3, 2024 at 12:13 pm

    What a day!   At five o’clock this morning I was attacked bt a flyer left by Duty to America and just now, I barely missed stepping on a snake.   Pretty sure it was an Eastern Kingsnake so that’s good news.

  108. 108.

    narya

    March 3, 2024 at 12:15 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Thanks for sharing that. I couldn’t bring myself to dig into the actual poll. As he notes, and many folks here and elsewhere note, including in actual voting patterns since Dobbs, women see what’s going on, and do not trust the man who engineered this SCOTUS to have their interests at heart. Nearly any poll that shows otherwise is suspect to me.

  109. 109.

    BeautifulPlumage

    March 3, 2024 at 12:15 pm

    @Miss Bianca: ​
      Ha, ha, ha! I love that bit!

  110. 110.

    Another Scott

    March 3, 2024 at 12:17 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: +1

    Thanks.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  111. 111.

    Formerly disgruntled in Oregon

    March 3, 2024 at 12:20 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Yeah, that’s a good analysis. Seems like a good one for forwarding around.

  112. 112.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 12:23 pm

    I’m watching the movie ‘Never Give A Sucker An Even Break” streaming free on You Toob to my smaht TV.  Seems appropriate. Somehow.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Give_a_Sucker_an_Even_Break

  113. 113.

    Baud

    March 3, 2024 at 12:26 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    A new NYT/Siena poll has people freaking out again. But they shouldn’t.

     

    It’s like he doesn’t know us at all.

  114. 114.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 3, 2024 at 12:26 pm

    @Jackie:

    Donald Trump supporters at the Missouri Republican Caucus on Saturday attacked fellow attendees who supported the former president’s opponent, a prior member of the “grand old party” reported. 

    Rooting for injuries!  (Not sorry at all)

  115. 115.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    March 3, 2024 at 12:29 pm

    @Baud:

    When in trouble or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.

  116. 116.

    Mousebumples

    March 3, 2024 at 12:30 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Agreed. Thanks for boosting it here.

    Polls don’t vote. If the cross tabs don’t match recent polls, which are you going to trust?

  117. 117.

    Betty Cracker

    March 3, 2024 at 12:36 pm

    @catclub: Well, if it can’t be prevented from laundering disinformation from a hostile foreign power, maybe it’s time to burn it down and start over? Seriously. This is intolerable.

  118. 118.

    Baud

    March 3, 2024 at 12:36 pm

    @Mr. Bemused Senior:

    😱

  119. 119.

    JPL

    March 3, 2024 at 12:36 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Excellent news, and I passed it on.

  120. 120.

    Cacti

    March 3, 2024 at 12:37 pm

    As I’ve said previously, I’m equally interested in what Smirnov’s relationship is with Israeli intelligence, seeing that he’s also an Israeli citizen.

    I have strong suspicion of a joint FSB/Mossad production to give a boost to the orange fascist.

  121. 121.

    Sure Lurkalot

    March 3, 2024 at 12:43 pm

    @TBone: Nothing says “pious” to me more than surgically doubling the size of your breasts after suing your spouse (who in January 2004 was arrested for “allegedly” exposing himself in a bowling alley and in February 2004 for “allegedly” physically abusing his then girlfriend Lauren) for divorce.

    Salt of the earth. I’m sure the church she chooses will be so gratified to have her as a parishioner.

  122. 122.

    Jackie

    March 3, 2024 at 12:45 pm

    @TBone: Less money for the RNC – oops! I guess the money will find TIFG’s pockets either way with Lara’s (DIL) help!🙄

  123. 123.

    Baud

    March 3, 2024 at 12:51 pm

    @Cacti:

    I have strong suspicion of a joint FSB/Mossad production to give a boost to the orange fascist

     

    It would have been going on since before 2020, right?

  124. 124.

    Sure Lurkalot

    March 3, 2024 at 12:54 pm

    @Scout211:

    I guess we will see now that the Biden-Harris team is attacking him directly on his cognitive issues.

    This was from last week (and I apologize for the Twitter link, Nitter instances seem to fail regularly) but it appears yesterday’s rallies (see e.g. Aaron Rupar’s feed) gifted a lot more content.

    https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1763210154575548687

    Hope Joe’s comms team makes this a weekly feature.

  125. 125.

    kindness

    March 3, 2024 at 1:05 pm

    What is that maxim for lawyers in court?

    “If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts; if you have the law on your side, pound the law; if you have neither the facts nor the law, pound the table.”

    Republicans and Fox have been pounding the table for quite some time now.  MAGA folk don’t see that but most regular folk do.

  126. 126.

    catclub

    March 3, 2024 at 1:08 pm

    @Baud: I have a naive faith that the Mossad is much more principled (and less likely to do that) than Netanyahu. I could be sadly mistaken.

  127. 127.

    Villago Delenda Est

    March 3, 2024 at 1:09 pm

    @dmsilev: ​
      what sort of ‘church’ is this anyway?

    The church of what’s happening NOW!

  128. 128.

    Baud

    March 3, 2024 at 1:09 pm

    @catclub:

    Hard to say. Right wingers everywhere, both here and abroad, are freaking out and capable of anything.

  129. 129.

    catclub

    March 3, 2024 at 1:10 pm

    can I just say that the Seth Myers and O’Donnell reports on Trump ‘losing it’ and being incoherent show surprisingly short snippets. Which makes them fairly unconvincing to me.

  130. 130.

    Villago Delenda Est

    March 3, 2024 at 1:10 pm

    @Sure Lurkalot: People of the land.  Common clay of the new West.

  131. 131.

    Kay

    March 3, 2024 at 1:12 pm

    Liberals, in my experience, consistently underestimate AA union membership. African Americans have the highest union membership of any group. It makes perfect sense if you think about it. Unions have entry requirements and rules that are transparent and apply to everyone equally. Benchmarks for promotion or advancement are either some kind of certification or senoirity. Unions have a process for workplace discipline and firing.

    Those are objective measures that would level the barriers black people face in the workplace due to racial bias. It’s literally leveling the playing field. I read up on this a bit during Ohio’s Issue Two (a pro labor initative) because I was surprised by how many black people were at organizing meetings. It’s a whole labor theory.

    Labor unions also lessen racial tension between groups because AA and Latino and white are all working towards the same goal. 

  132. 132.

    Jackie

    March 3, 2024 at 1:13 pm

    Heh, watching Jamie Raskin on Jen Psaki’s show discussing the SCOTUS vs TIFG Immunity case. Raskin very dryly pointed out the Supremes could listen to the case 4/22 and make a decision by the 23d or 24th aka as Josh Hawley warp speed.

    Yes, I spewed coffee…

  133. 133.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 1:14 pm

    @Sure Lurkalot: the entire nation will be gratified. If she has her way 🙄😆

  134. 134.

    Villago Delenda Est

    March 3, 2024 at 1:14 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Agreed. Jay points out the obvious flaws without resorting as I would do to nakedly pointing out that the Vichy Times is simply not a reliable source for political reporting.

  135. 135.

    Baud

    March 3, 2024 at 1:14 pm

    @Kay:

    Liberals, in my experience, consistently underestimate AA union membership.

     

    Probably because we’re obsessed with the white union members vote that makes many states in Midwest red.

  136. 136.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 1:14 pm

    @Jackie: whatever “works” 😜

  137. 137.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 1:16 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: she works that clay like she’s at a pottery wheel.

  138. 138.

    Juju

    March 3, 2024 at 1:17 pm

    @Scout211: My mother has advanced dementia and she says the same thing when she makes mistakes with names and places and whatnot and it’s pointed out to her.

    His current excuse that he uses in order to cover up his mixing up of people’s names and other verbal mistakes is, “I meant to do that!”   

  139. 139.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 1:18 pm

    Apparently “Uncle Bill” Fields is having the desired effect.

  140. 140.

    Kay

    March 3, 2024 at 1:24 pm

    @Baud:

    That’s the wrong way to look at it though. White union membership (hourly workers) are more Democratic than white non union members (hourly workers). If you look at them as a subset of white working class people they’re the most Democratic among that group.

  141. 141.

    Another Scott

    March 3, 2024 at 1:24 pm

    @catclub: +1

    He’s mostly reading a teleprompter competently.  He goes off on tangents and his mouth sometimes doesn’t keep up.

    What’s more telling are his excuses when called out on his obvious errors.  His narcissism means he cannot admit an error or a mistake.  That keeps coming out.  That’s the story, for those who cannot pay attention.

    Maybe the pundits and reporters will find space for that in their 2027 books.  :-/

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  142. 142.

    taumaturgo

    March 3, 2024 at 1:26 pm

  143. 143.

    Villago Delenda Est

    March 3, 2024 at 1:28 pm

    @taumaturgo: Succinct, to the point.

  144. 144.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 1:29 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: 😅

  145. 145.

    Jackie

    March 3, 2024 at 1:31 pm

    @taumaturgo: I agree!

  146. 146.

    Geminid

    March 3, 2024 at 1:32 pm

    @TBone: I read a biography of W.C. Fields written a couple years after his death. It was kind of sad. Fields left home early in his teenage years because his father beat him, and he lived on the Philadelphi streets. The police got to know him well and so did the other kids. They all wanted to fight the tough streetkid, and that’s how his nose got squashed.

    After scrabbling his way up the resort circuit, Fields made a name on Broadway and then drove to LA and made it big. But Fields was never a happy man, and he basically drank himself to death.

  147. 147.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 1:37 pm

    @Geminid: we have a lot in common, except I quit drinking about a decade ago.  I am aware of all of that but others might not be.  Comedians frequently come from tough places. As a cop’s daughter, I had a rough road with biker gang kidnapping me for “safe” rides up the Turnpike.  That’s the tip of the iceberg.

  148. 148.

    MomSense

    March 3, 2024 at 1:37 pm

    How many cycles do we have to put up with rumors about Democrats being repeated ad nauseum until the general population believes them? There are some journamalists who are actually stupid, but I really think this is deliberate. They want Republicans in office and tRump is a boost for their revenues.

  149. 149.

    Geminid

    March 3, 2024 at 1:43 pm

    @TBone: One day when Jackie Gleason was around ten, his father left home for work at an insurance company, Then he left work at lunchtime and walked away from his family and his job.

    Gleason recalled sitting at the kitchen table in the evening, watching his father write policies. He remembered thinking his father had beautiful handwriting.

  150. 150.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 1:43 pm

    @TBone: funny story.  My friend met an internet date for lunch.  He started talking about some devil worship or something similar.  She said “Well, I’m not afraid, I know some Pagans.”  But she found out the hard way he wasn’t talking about motorcycles 😆 a few minutes later and politely excused herself.

  151. 151.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 1:47 pm

    @Geminid: the tears of a clown.  Brings back fond and not so fond memories…all mixed up.  Ah to be young and fearless again!  But old and brave will have to do.

  152. 152.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 1:52 pm

    Local biker gang member in Court upon being questioned by the Judge about his religion:  “Republican, Your Honor!”

  153. 153.

    Memory Pallas

    March 3, 2024 at 1:58 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Thanks for this link. very clear and rational. I feel like we need a plan for dealing with the fact that this phenomenon may persist throughout the election cycle​
    ​
    ​

  154. 154.

    Fake Irishman

    March 3, 2024 at 2:00 pm

    @Kay:

    and along those lines in unionized workplaces, the gender gap in wages is smaller, likely for the same reasons you note here (transparent and clear rules for raises, advancement and promotion)

    it’s almost like women are a major part of the labor movement too….

  155. 155.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 2:01 pm

    @Fake Irishman: if we women all sat down for one day, the nation would crumble.

    ETA was it Icelandic women who actually did just that?

  156. 156.

    cain

    March 3, 2024 at 2:03 pm

    @Mousebumples: Looks like while the GOP plays fiddle with social issues – labor is gaining ground. Greater organized labor means that the Democratic party’s star is also going to be rising.

    The oligarchs are going to be pissed. All the GOP have done is focus on abortion and transgender.

    I’m delighted. Because those other laws are going to eventually going to get struck down.

  157. 157.

    Baud

    March 3, 2024 at 2:05 pm

    @Kay:

    Yes I know white union households are better than white nonunion households. I was just commenting on why we focus on white union members, which are still disproportionately Republican in the Midwest.

  158. 158.

    cain

    March 3, 2024 at 2:06 pm

    @Mousebumples:

    Meanwhile, at Trump rally the crowd goes quiet because the TFG referenced Obama instead of Biden as President.

    Yeah, confidence is dipping. Haley is probably grinding her teeth right now. :-)

  159. 159.

    Baud

    March 3, 2024 at 2:07 pm

    @cain:

    They’re only going to be pissed if they lose in November. If they win, they’ll know they own labor.

  160. 160.

    Suzanne

    March 3, 2024 at 2:07 pm

    @SFAW:

    Given that preface: have you ever thought about trying to run a campaign?​ 

    Oh HELL no.
    I am a nerd with a bad personality.

  161. 161.

    glc

    March 3, 2024 at 2:08 pm

    A remark on CDC recommendations.

  162. 162.

    Quadrillipede

    March 3, 2024 at 2:10 pm

    Excerpts from an interview with a psychologist who has been monitoring  the ongoing deterioration of Grampa Cognitive Test. URL is below:

    Not enough people are sounding the alarm, that based on his behavior, and in my opinion, Donald Trump is dangerously demented.

    I’ve been reaching out to several colleagues who are real experts in this area. They were happy to share observations and diagnostic conclusions about Trump’s severe organic mental decline, privately, but even among colleagues who were once outspoken, there’s a new high level of fear, not to mention exhaustion, that we didn’t see before.

    Trump looks blank, stops in mid-sentence (or mid-word), his jaw goes a little slack, and when he starts to talk again, he slurs, speaks haltingly, and often looks confused. Trying to get the word out, he shifts to a non-word that is easier to pronounce. When people are losing their ability to use language they use non-words. They start with the stem of the real word, and then they improvise from there.

     Trump is evidencing formal thought disorder, where his basic ability to use language is breaking down.

    Someone with an advanced degree from an Ivy League school, for example, has a lot of IQ points to give before they hit kindergarten level. If you pass the [Montreal Cognitive Assessment] it certainly does not mean you’re cognitively equipped to be President of the United States.

    As I warned in our conversation last week, whatever personality disorder someone has, it gets dramatically worse as their cognitive functions decline. All of Trump’s viciousness, hostility, and unpredictable and other pathological behavior is only going to get worse.

    I don’t want to say the mainstream media is covering up Trump’s cognitive disability†, but they certainly aren’t covering it like the 5-alarm fire it is. The media will show Trump being combative and saying something outrageous and his audience reacting to it — but they are consistently not showing the parts of Trump’s speeches and interviews where his eyes go blank, his jaw goes slack, he looks confused, and slurs words, uses non-words, can’t finish a sentence, rambles, perseverates, confabulates and babbles incoherently. That’s what should make the 6 o’clock news. Doesn’t the media have a duty to warn the public that the man who wants the nuclear codes back (not including the ones he probably stole) is publicly displaying unimpeachable evidence of a broken and deteriorating brain?

    • “Like someone pulled the metaphorical plug”: Dr. John Gartner on Trump’s “accelerating dementia”

    † Personally, I do want to say the media is covering this up, but I don’t have a precise handle on why. Is it negligence, malice, or simply incompetence? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  163. 163.

    kalakal

    March 3, 2024 at 2:13 pm

    @SFAW:

    OK, but I’m distressed that Biden is a whole day older than he was yesterday!

    On the bright side TFGs fine is a $112,000 more than it was yesterday!

  164. 164.

    cain

    March 3, 2024 at 2:13 pm

    @JML:

    I think that white collar skepticism about union might change with AI. I was a skeptic mostly because traditionally labor organized for blue collar/assembly line type stuff. Their physical labor is the “product’.

    I think and I’m one of them  – we see ourselves as our unique way we solve problems as the “product”. SO how do you unionize around that. I think we’re just looking at it wrong.

    I think AI and what it will bring into the workforce is going to create some serious shifts and we are going to need to figure it out how our labor plays into it.

  165. 165.

    cain

    March 3, 2024 at 2:14 pm

    @Brachiator:

    These assholes would impeach Jesus because he talked to a prostitute.

  166. 166.

    Another Scott

    March 3, 2024 at 2:16 pm

    Speaking of FTFNYT, DeLong points us to Parker Molloy:

    Journamalism: Grave moral fault rests on everybody who contributes their money and their talent to the New York Times. Just saying:

    Parker Molloy: This NYT Headline About Student Loan Forgiveness is an Exercise in the Paper’s Absurdity: ‘On Wednesday, The New York Times reported on President Joe Biden’s latest round of student loan forgiveness. “Biden Cancels $1.2 Billion in Student Loan Debt for 150,000 Borrowers,” read the headline, simply stating the facts. The subheadline was equally neutral-yet-informative, letting readers know that the administration “has canceled $138 billion of student debt for nearly 3.9 million borrowers.”… But then the paper changed the headline to “A Beleaguered Biden Chips Away at StudentLoan Debt, Bit by Bit,” managing to take a neutral headline and turn it into a standard and here’s why this is bad for Biden piece…

    They’re not interested in presenting the news in an objective way. They want to slant their coverage to hurt Democrats. It’s what they do.

    (See the link for embedded links.)

    Grr…,
    Scott.

  167. 167.

    Baud

    March 3, 2024 at 2:17 pm

    @Another Scott:

    You broke the blog.

    But good info.

  168. 168.

    glc

    March 3, 2024 at 2:18 pm

    For the SF crowd: Cory Doctorow’s Tor publications (apart from the current release, The Bezzle) are available as a package – 18 ebooks for $18 (or more if so inclined).

    Details on his blog. The offer will be open for a while (about 3 weeks).

  169. 169.

    Yutsano

    March 3, 2024 at 2:22 pm

    @Quadrillipede: ​

    Personally, I do want to say the media is covering this up, but I don’t have a precise handle on why. Is it negligence, malice, or simply incompetence? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Because he makes their jobs much easier. They don’t have to try to get stuff out of his administration .

    EDIT: 169? I’ll take it.

  170. 170.

    Another Scott

    March 3, 2024 at 2:22 pm

    @Baud: Sorry.  I didn’t notice that the unlinkified twitter link was a little too long.

    :-/

    I’ll send WG a note.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  171. 171.

    AlaskaReader

    March 3, 2024 at 2:24 pm

    This is just a reminder that Republican voters are every bit as cretinous and willfully demented as are the people they vote for.

    As is the same for all their enablers.

  172. 172.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 2:26 pm

    @glc: Similar to how long Covid patients are being “treated” except long Lyme patients have known what’s up at the CDC for decades.

    https://underourskin.com/film/

  173. 173.

    Quadrillipede

    March 3, 2024 at 2:26 pm

    @MomSense:How many cycles do we have to put up with rumors about Democrats being repeated ad nauseum until the general population believes them?

    I’m hoping that eventually enough of the general public will start to notice the increasingly glaring differences in topic choice and framing between legacy media and left-leaning/liberal/not-overtly-fascism-curious blogs/social media, and some will start going around the MSM to get informed.

    The Biden-Harris campaign seems to be at least open to this, if we see more events like Biden’s Superbowl “interview” going directly on TikTok and cutting the TV channels out of the loop entirely.

    (From my POV, any MSM pearl-clutching about no longer getting to be the gatekeepers is already its own reward…)

  174. 174.

    Jackie

    March 3, 2024 at 2:29 pm

    @Quadrillipede: The GQP will prop him up with a broomstick up his ass while his handlers – Stephen Miller et al – run the government behind the scenes. As long as TIFG can hold a fat sharpie well enough to scrawl his signature passing laws enacted by MAGA congress…

  175. 175.

    Ryan

    March 3, 2024 at 2:29 pm

    I mean yeah on the last cartoon.  Smirnov, is what we call in the biz, a clue.

  176. 176.

    Uncle Cosmo

    March 3, 2024 at 2:37 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Nice catch, good analysis.

    I say for the umpteenth time, no one not on the inside of a campaign or campaign committee is ever** going to see results from a poll that’s an honest attempt to assess voter opinions and preferences. Poll results released to the public are either clickbait (OMGOMGOMG AIN’T IT AWFUL HAVE YOU SEEN THE LATEST POLL!!!!) or pushpolling (attempting to drive a narrative for the benefit of whoever commissioned the poll and those they support).

    The thing about survey research is that it’s easy to screw with the methodology to get the desired results. One obvious ploy is questions biased toward a particular POV, individually or in the context of surrounding queries. Another is to diddle with the sample composition in terms of what groups are over- or underrepresented and who is “likely to vote.” (Rasmussen, a notoriously GOP-leaning pollster, tends to assume Thugs will crawl over their dying grandmother to vote whereas Dems have to be begged or bribed to show up. If a Rasmussen poll shows the GOP under water it’s a safe bet a blunami is on its way.***)  These guys know exactly what to do to get the “results” their customers want, but they generally conceal them under the rubric of “judgement born of long experience in survey research”…

    ** At least not until long after the fact, when the information is no longer high-value. Somewhere in my files I have a copy of a poll done for a Baltimore mayoral election ca. 1970 – very interesting insight into how a nationally-recognized survey operation did business, but not given to me until some years later, when the information and recommendations were water over the damned…

    *** Raz needs to do non-political and off-year surveys in order to stay in business, so to preserve credibility, his polls start to lift the far-right thumb off the scales as voting nears, so that by Election Day his results are in line with most other operations.

  177. 177.

    Soprano2

    March 3, 2024 at 2:41 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck: If TFG really does have some kind of dementia they’re taking a huge gamble on the unknown. Since he came back from the hospital I’ve been able to get hubby to leave the house once for his appointment to get the stents removed. I had to call EMS transport to see if they would take him to the doctor’s office (they won’t, but my call got him off the couch). Other than that he won’t leave the house. He wouldn’t go to the symphony last night. We hosted the Afterglow, it’s a big deal that he’s usually excited about.  I couldn’t get him to take a shower this morning. He may never leave the house again.  Dementia is unpredictable; there can be a sudden change like this. They’re playing with fire.

    One thing this whole experience has done has made me decide there will be no more interventions like this. He’s worse off now than he was before. He gained nothing from this.

  178. 178.

    Quadrillipede

    March 3, 2024 at 2:41 pm

    @Jackie:The GQP will prop him up with a broomstick up his ass while his handlers – Stephen Miller et al

    I considered trying to work an allusion to Weekend at Bernie’s meets Reagan/Mondale 1984 into my OP, although I felt it might ultimately be distracting given that it wasn’t Mondale who won in a landslide. But, yeah.

  179. 179.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    March 3, 2024 at 2:45 pm

    @Soprano2: I’m sorry to hear that.

  180. 180.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 2:47 pm

    Bring out your death cult! Oops, dead!

    https://digbysblog.net/2024/03/03/trump-is-now-an-anti-vaxxer/

  181. 181.

    Scout211

    March 3, 2024 at 2:49 pm

    @Soprano2: One thing this whole experience has done has made me decide there will be no more interventions like this. He’s worse off now than he was before. He gained nothing from this.

    I’m so sorry.  That is just so hard.  Do you think you can start looking into some home health care?

  182. 182.

    Scamp Dog

    March 3, 2024 at 2:52 pm

    @Sid: Not to me. He did his job, had good success for a while, then got caught. If and when he gets back to Russia, the FSB will see he’s rewarded.
    Now if he had ratted out his handlers, that would be a different story.

  183. 183.

    Scout211

    March 3, 2024 at 2:53 pm

    A moment in history.  Caitlin Clark breaks Pete Maravich’s all-time NCAA scoring record today.  At home on senior day.  ESPN

    I am so old I remember when Title IV was just a dream for women and girls.   I’m having a moment here.  🥲

  184. 184.

    Raven

    March 3, 2024 at 2:55 pm

    @Scout211: and she did it from the line!

  185. 185.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 2:56 pm

    @Soprano2: having been there with my mom, sufficient words of comfort fail me

    I’m glad you’re here.  It’s a little thing that can be big.

    At first, I wanted to shove the big, orange DNR sign down somebody’s throat.

  186. 186.

    glc

    March 3, 2024 at 2:58 pm

    @SFAW: In percentage terms the rate is slowing, and may reverse itself in a few years (linear regression).

    I’m counting on this, myself. I’m roughly my children’s age and the gap seems to be narrowing.

  187. 187.

    AlaskaReader

    March 3, 2024 at 3:01 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    …some years later, when the information and recommendations were water over the damned…

    As a turn of phrase, …that is an absolute glory.

  188. 188.

    eclare

    March 3, 2024 at 3:03 pm

    @Soprano2:

    Oh I am so sorry.

  189. 189.

    Soprano2

    March 3, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    @Another Scott: They probably got a lot of right wing complaints that the headline was pro-Biden so they changed it.

  190. 190.

    Melancholy Jaques

    March 3, 2024 at 3:08 pm

    @oldgold:

    A large number of cancellations with the message that “your anti-whoever the Democrat is” political coverage is the reason would be a good thing. Not going to happen or it already would have.

    We actually face fairly easy questions: Who is our nominee? Biden. What do we need to do? Work hard and work together to make sure we win.

  191. 191.

    Scout211

    March 3, 2024 at 3:09 pm

    @Raven: I played tennis for the University of Iowa as a freshman.  They recruited from the PE classes and we provided all of our own equipment.  We had games with local colleges that they called “Play Days” and we carpooled to get there.  It was actually really fun.  The next year, Title IX was passed and official college sports for women began.  I was not given a tryout   🤣

     

    @Scout211: Typo: Title IX not IV. Oops

  192. 192.

    cain

    March 3, 2024 at 3:10 pm

    @Scout211:

    I expect a new kind of voter intimidation – going after Republican voters who won’t vote Trump.

    Our shit press will only be concerned that this is bad news for Biden if that ever became a reality.

  193. 193.

    AlaskaReader

    March 3, 2024 at 3:11 pm

    @Scout211:  Not to belittle Clark’s achievements, but I’ve been reading about some women players who were maybe more remarkable scorers that the NCAA wasn’t around to make note of.

    Seems if something happened before the NCAA came about, it didn’t happen.

    And neither Lynette Woodard, nor Pistol Pete had the benefit of three point shots.

    I like ‘records’ to record feats performed under the same or at least similar conditions.

    There is no doubt Clark is a phenom.

    But credit due to players who preceded her, the new ‘record’ just isn’t the same thing.

  194. 194.

    cain

    March 3, 2024 at 3:13 pm

    @Scout211: Last night he mixed up President Obama with President Biden and the media is starting to talk about that more. I’m sure his fans will accept his claim that he did that on purpose for whatever he says his reasons are, but I don’t think that excuse will go very far past his MAGA fans. I guess we will see now that the Biden-Harris team is attacking him directly on his cognitive issues.

    It was reported that a hush fell over the crowd when he did that. I think it will be harder to accept as fake news when you’re at a fucking Trump rally and he goes off the rails.

  195. 195.

    lowtechcyclist

    March 3, 2024 at 3:16 pm

    @Mousebumples: ​
     

    But yay for successful union organizing!

    Yay indeed! That’s great news!!

  196. 196.

    Citizen Alan

    March 3, 2024 at 3:16 pm

    @Scout211: Yeah, yeah. But did she score all those points against men?!? Checkmate, feminists!! (/sarcasm)

  197. 197.

    Soprano2

    March 3, 2024 at 3:17 pm

    @Scout211: I’m going to have to do something, I just don’t know what. I’m trying CBD/THC gummies to improve his sleep and appetite. I started last night, I’m going to give it a week to see if I think it works. I figured why not, it’s legal here, so I got a reference to a good shop. They were really helpful.

  198. 198.

    cain

    March 3, 2024 at 3:18 pm

    @Jackie:

    What will Nikki Haley say about this as her supporters are attacked in the public like this? Will she stand up for her supporters? This should be fun.

    She has no political power. Will she advocate for trump after having her supporters humiliated? The magic 8 ball says yes.

  199. 199.

    Raven

    March 3, 2024 at 3:20 pm

    @AlaskaReader: I used to play with Teresa Edwards when she was finishing up at UGA. Talk about records!

  200. 200.

    Soprano2

    March 3, 2024 at 3:21 pm

    @Scout211: There’s been some good local coverage of that here because Jackie Stiles, a former record holder, played for Missouri State. She tried to get Clark to come here to play, but said she figured out petty quickly that Clark would go to a bigger team and conference.

  201. 201.

    Raven

    March 3, 2024 at 3:21 pm

    @Scout211: I have a bunch of pals who were collegiate level gymnasts. Sorry about that.

  202. 202.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 3:22 pm

    @Soprano2: if sundowning is involved, I recommend a stronger sedative at night.  Also, we hung really loud jingle bells on all doors in case of wandering.  I know you said he won’t leave the house but that could change.

  203. 203.

    Soprano2

    March 3, 2024 at 3:23 pm

    @TBone: I keep thinking about how horrified my smart, funny, talented husband would be to see how he is now. We all make those jokes about it, never thinking we’ll be like that someday.

  204. 204.

    lowtechcyclist

    March 3, 2024 at 3:24 pm

    @Spanky:

    One of them thar snake-handling churches.

    I’m just this far in in reading the thread, but it’s gonna be hard for anyone to top this line!

  205. 205.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 3:25 pm

    @Soprano2: it is a looming worry. Another reason laughter is so, so very important ❤️

    BUT crying works too!

    PS my only remaining Aunt, mom’s sister, is showing concerning behavior r.n.

  206. 206.

    Gretchen

    March 3, 2024 at 3:26 pm

    Hunter brought up at the hearing something that has bothered me about the laptop story: there are tons of Apple stores near both his house and his dad’s. Why would he track down a no-name store in a strip mall that would invalidate the laptop warranty? All these reporters have iPhones. They know this, and yet ran with the story, and never questioned why no-name called Rudy, even though it had a Biden he could have called the Biden campaign office indicated by the stick on the laptop. They just slurped it down like ice cream.

  207. 207.

    RaflW

    March 3, 2024 at 3:27 pm

    Nikki Haley is doing so much bobbing and weaving, I’d think she’s working out at a boxing gym:
    “[Haley] said that what to do with embryos created for in vitro fertilization should be a decision ‘between the parents and the physician’ and that the ‘government shouldn’t do anything to stop’ I.V.F.  But she then said that states should be allowed to stop I.V.F.”

    Aren’t states “the government”, Nikki? Why should a state be able to block IVF but the feds can’t? She has no internal consistency, only ambition. She’s really not any more qualified that Trump, even if she wouldn’t take an immediate blowtorch to the constitution

    Also, too, why is IVF a decision ‘between the parents and the physician’, but letting a 17 y.o. start hormone therapy for their gender identity not a decision between the patient, supportive family & their doctor?

    It’s all just bullshit stacked on bullshit.

  208. 208.

    cain

    March 3, 2024 at 3:28 pm

    @Baud: and work to destroy it.

  209. 209.

    Soprano2

    March 3, 2024 at 3:28 pm

    @TBone: He seems to be better in the evening, worse in the morning. He’s also having headaches, which are a side effect of the Eleqis he’s taking now for A-fib. I’m not a medical person, it’s so hard to know what the right decision is. He has an appointment with his gerentologost this week, I’m tempted to go without him to talk to the doctor about all of this.

  210. 210.

    sab

    March 3, 2024 at 3:30 pm

    @Jackie: T Trumpers at the Missouri caucus may have won the night, but they pretty much guaranteed that the Haley supporters will be voting for Biden rather than staying home in November.

  211. 211.

    cain

    March 3, 2024 at 3:31 pm

    @Quadrillipede: The thing is – they would absolutely do that for Biden. If there is a chance for this man to be president of the U.S> there needs to be a lot more scrutiny.

    The GOP is ok because it means they can put in a VP they could control who could take over. But Trump won’t allow that at all. He’ll get a simp for certain and he will never let go of power and he’ll have a cabinet that would be afraid of his supporters.

    Luckily, he has not made any nuclear threats.. yet.

  212. 212.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 3:31 pm

    @Soprano2: you do what YOU need to do to care for both of you FIRST. It seems counterintuitive but it’s really the best, smartest way.  Can you find a caregiver group in your community?

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    Sure Lurkalot

    March 3, 2024 at 3:37 pm

    @cain:

    What will Nikki Haley say about this as her supporters are attacked in the public like this? Will she stand up for her supporters?

    My question for Nikki Haley about Trump when she inevitably exits:

    Will you endorse Trump but not support him or support Trump but not endorse him?

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    RaflW

    March 3, 2024 at 3:38 pm

    @debit: “Ok, Dean Phillips.”

    As an aside, I early-voted yesterday in MN’s Tues. primary. I was happy to vote for Joe Biden. And I was even happier to vote against Phillips.

    I hope he is sufficiently humiliated this week to just slink away quietly.

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    Soprano2

    March 3, 2024 at 3:38 pm

    @TBone: I’ve been doing some crying this weekend for sure.

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    RaflW

    March 3, 2024 at 3:40 pm

    @Sure Lurkalot: She’s waffling like an Eggo in a toaster with an overly excited spring:

    When the Meet the Press host, Kristen Welker, asked [this morning] whether she had ruled out endorsing Mr. Trump, Ms. Haley deflected, saying, “If you talk about an endorsement, you’re talking about a loss. I don’t think like that.”

    After an extended back-and-forth related to her pledge last year to support her party’s nominee — which the Republican National Committee required candidates to sign in order to participate in debates — she referred to Mr. Trump’s recent endorsement of Lara Trump, who is married to his son Eric, to be a party co-chair.

    “The R.N.C. is now not the same R.N.C.,” Ms. Haley said. “Now it’s Trump’s daughter-in-law.”

    The closest Ms. Haley came to explicitly disavowing the pledge was when she said, “I’ll make what decision I want to make.” But she quickly added: “That’s not something I’m thinking about. And I think that while y’all think about that, I’m looking at the fact that we had thousands of people in Virginia, we’re headed to North Carolina, we’re going to continue to go to Vermont and Maine and all these states to go and show people that there is a path forward.”

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    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 3:46 pm

    @Soprano2:

    https://www.caregiving.org/resources/

    Start there and get more local.  Ugh, broken links abound.

    This works

    https://www.nextstepincare.org/

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    Josie

    March 3, 2024 at 3:47 pm

    @Soprano2: ​
     I’m so sorry that you are experiencing this. I remember how it affected my mother to be in the hospital. She broke her wrist and was in for a short while. It totally threw her off to get out of her safe environment. I can’t imagine how much more difficult all this is since you are dealing with a mate. I hope the CBD stuff works. My youngest son is a recovering alcoholic who suffers from anxiety and he swears by the CBD. He says there are different types depending on what your problem is. If one doesn’t work, keep trying until you find one that does.

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    Miss Bianca

    March 3, 2024 at 3:47 pm

    @cain: Why should she be different than that model of courage, Ted Cruz? I mean, if Ted Cruz could kiss Trump’s pumpkin-shaped-and-colored ass after the man insulted *his wife*, why would Nikki cavil about having her mere *supporters* threatened and maligned?

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    Scout211

    March 3, 2024 at 3:49 pm

    @Soprano2: I just know that my husband does better if we keep him on a regular daily routine. I learned that in one of the caregiver’s books I read.  We have alerts and alarms on his phone to keep him on track with regular daily tasks. If our daily routine changes, he gets confused and frustrated.  So keeping on that routine makes a big difference.

    I can monitor this because I am retired and we found out even before he was diagnosed that he needs me nearby to help him function.  I think I have read that you are not retired yet so you don’t have the ability to monitor him all day.  Having a home healthcare aid could be an answer to that.  Just a thought.

    I know our guys have different types of dementia but the life of the caregiving spouse is not much different.  It’s okay to cry and it’s okay to feel sorry for yourself and it’s okay to ask for outside help.

    Take care of yourself.  I know you are already taking good care of your guy.

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    Baud

    March 3, 2024 at 3:50 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    She’ll probably end up offering her supporters to Trump as tribute.

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    zhena gogolia

    March 3, 2024 at 3:51 pm

    @Soprano2: Oh, it’s so sad and terrible. My heart goes out to you.

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    Miss Bianca

    March 3, 2024 at 3:51 pm

    @RaflW: Yeah, there is “a path forward”, Nikki – unfortunately for you, it involves voting for Joe Biden.

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    Gvg

    March 3, 2024 at 3:58 pm

    @JML: Biden may be better than Obama on Labor because he is old enough to remember when they worked well.

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    japa21

    March 3, 2024 at 3:58 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Speaking of Cruz, have there been any Cruz sightings in Cancun, what with the wildfires in TX going on?

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    Soprano2

    March 3, 2024 at 3:59 pm

    @TBone: I’ll look at that later, thanks.

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    Jackie

    March 3, 2024 at 4:03 pm

    @cain: Actually…

    “Nikki Haley said Sunday that she no longer feels bound by the earlier pledge made by her and other presidential hopefuls to support the GOP’s eventual nominee — widely expected to be former president Donald Trump,” the Washington Post reports.

    Said Haley: “The RNC is now not the same RNC.”

    So she’s hedging. She won’t vote for Biden, regardless. My question, which wasn’t asked, is if she still supports pardoning TIFG “for the good of the country”?

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    Soprano2

    March 3, 2024 at 4:05 pm

    @Scout211: Oh yeah, that’s true. This totally messed up our routine. I wish I had asked the urologist “What happens if we do nothing?” Doctors want to fix things, and I think they don’t consider that might break something else. Would it have been better to accept lower kidney function and a gradual worsening? This may sound bad, but everyone dies from something. My husband’s kidney function is better now, but his life (and mine) is definitely worse. He might have lived several more years without this treatment. I think we forget that things don’t always have to be treated.

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    debit

    March 3, 2024 at 4:07 pm

    @RaflW:

    My absentee ballot was accepted on Friday, so I am relieved.

    Sometimes I think Dean Phillips has involved us in some sort of public humiliation kink that we never agreed to.

    I also hope he goes away. Alas, I foresee a future where he’s skulks around like some sort of low rent Tulsi Gabbard.

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    Baud

    March 3, 2024 at 4:08 pm

    @debit:

    Maybe he’ll end up on Joe Rogan too!

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    JPL

    March 3, 2024 at 4:08 pm

    @Jackie: That is the one question that she never wavered on.

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    debit

    March 3, 2024 at 4:09 pm

    @Baud:  I’d bet money on it.

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    eclare

    March 3, 2024 at 4:10 pm

    @Soprano2:

    I went through the same with my dad.  He had major abdominal surgery at 84 for colon cancer.  The surgeon said they got it all afterwards, so one problem solved.  But it caused so many more, for my mom and dad.  I wish someone had asked, what if we do nothing?  Especially since some prostate cancers are now considered so non-aggressive drs don’t even treat them.

    I think his life would have been much better using drugs to treat the symptoms, but hindsight is always 20/20.

    Again, I am so sorry, and please use this space to vent or do whatever you need to do.  We’re here.

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    Bill Arnold

    March 3, 2024 at 4:11 pm

    @Another Scott:
    For those with a twitter(x) account, https://twitter.com/nyt_diff “Editing the Grey Lady” is useful; it documents changes to headlines (and to article urls, with easily -read change marks.

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    SiubhanDuinne

    March 3, 2024 at 4:12 pm

    Did anyone else listen to MVP Harris’ speech at the Edmund Pettus Bridge just now? She was fiery and passionate about Gaza relief and an immediate six-week ceasefire, about reproductive rights, about voting rights and background checks for gun purchasers. She was brilliant. Best speech I’ve ever heard from her. If you missed it live, do yourself a favour, look it up later, and watch the whole thing.

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    lowtechcyclist

    March 3, 2024 at 4:13 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    “One-eyed snake handling or two-eyed snake handling?”

    “Two-eyed snake handling!”

    “DIE, HERETIC!”

    Didn’t think anyone could top Spanky’s comment, but I think you, um, pulled it off. ;-)

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    Baud

    March 3, 2024 at 4:14 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Glad to hear it. Hopefully it’ll be posted.

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    Jackie

    March 3, 2024 at 4:14 pm

    @JPL: I think (hope) that will keep a lot of non MAGA GQPers from wavering about holding their noses and voting for Biden!

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    hueyplong

    March 3, 2024 at 4:15 pm

    Reading the posts complaining about the media not providing hair-on-fire coverage of Trump’s just-shy-of-a-stroke-onstage verbal/cognitive events, my reaction is that this would be borderline treasonous in September and October.  I’m less bothered about it at the beginning of March.  Time may be against us in the constantly stalled trials, but it’s with us here.  And expert descriptions of the problem likely accelerating are all good.  At some point they’ll have to hide him from the public, except that Trump won’t do that.  He needs his rallies to feed his narcissism, and at one of them a couple of months from now I’m going to be made so happy as to be at risk of my own personal medical event.

    Being told to be patient for 8 years or so is a drag, but there is reason to think good things are going to happen.

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    SiubhanDuinne

    March 3, 2024 at 4:17 pm

    @Baud:

    It should be on YouTube fairly soon, I imagine. I’ll try to remember to look for it and maybe put up a link once a fresh open thread goes up.

    ETA: Maybe this.

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    Miss Bianca

    March 3, 2024 at 4:20 pm

    @lowtechcyclist: lol!

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    lowtechcyclist

    March 3, 2024 at 4:21 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    A good analysis of the NYT/Siena poll.

    Thanks for sharing! I wasn’t going to try to access the crosstabs on the FTFNYT, so it’s good to see some of the, erm, interesting things about them.

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    Eyeroller

    March 3, 2024 at 4:21 pm

    @Soprano2: More likely they weren’t getting enough clicks.

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    JPL

    March 3, 2024 at 4:22 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: If something were to happen to President Biden, she is more than capable of handling the job.   I hope the news covers her more, so others will feel the same way that I do.

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    skerry

    March 3, 2024 at 4:26 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Thanks. That was helpful

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    Jackie

    March 3, 2024 at 4:31 pm

    Mighty obliging of the supremes… the DAY BEFORE Super Tues AND AFTER vote by mail/early voting has been in progress. 🙄

    The Supreme Court set an unusual, short-notice opinion release for Monday morning, Politico reports.

    It appears to signal that a ruling on Donald Trump’s ballot eligibility is coming.

    Associated Press: “The resolution of the case on Monday, a day before Super Tuesday contests in 16 states, would remove uncertainty about whether votes for Trump, the leading Republican candidate for president, will ultimately count. Both sides had requested fast work by the court, which heard arguments less than a month ago, on Feb. 8.”

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    Yutsano

    March 3, 2024 at 4:31 pm

    I see it’s a front pagers off Sunday again…

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    sab

    March 3, 2024 at 4:33 pm

    @Soprano2: My dad has had dementia for at least a decade. Fortunately for us he was a pathologist, so although a doctor he was somewhat skeptical of medical interventions. That has helped me make decisions. He needs cataract surgery and dental surgery but anasthesia can really make things worse for dementia. I am pretty much just say no to medical interventions, but my dad is 99 yo, and a dad not a spouse.

    You really should talk to the gerontologist.

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    lowtechcyclist

    March 3, 2024 at 4:33 pm

    @Cacti: ​
     

    I have strong suspicion of a joint FSB/Mossad production to give a boost to the orange fascist.

    Back in the spring of 2021, Zelenskyy asked for Israel’s permission (which was needed) to obtain the Iron Dome missile defense system from the U.S. Israel refused. And their general reluctance to help Ukraine in trying to reclaim their country from Russia has been disturbing, to say the least.

    I still doubt that Russian and Israeli intelligence are working together to help Trump win, but it does seem that those two nations are finding themselves on the same (wrong) side a lot lately.

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    Another Scott

    March 3, 2024 at 4:34 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Thanks for the pointer.  I think your link is from last year.

    This seems to be today – MVP starts around 1:01:30.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 4:37 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: it was awe inspiring.

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    Uncle Cosmo

    March 3, 2024 at 4:37 pm

    @RaflW: It’s all just bullshit stacked on bullshit.​

    Which prompts the question: What is the metamorphic form of bullshit? I know the metamorphic form of paper is Masonite (which I discovered while stacking up at home all the stuff from my office when I was abruptly pasturized), but this has me stumped…

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    sab

    March 3, 2024 at 4:46 pm

    @lowtechcyclist: The thing that all Americans, Jewish or not, need to realize that for Israelis the only Jews that count are the ones that live in Israel

    ETA and for Bibi, the only Jews that count are Bibi and possibly his wife.

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    Juju

    March 3, 2024 at 4:48 pm

    @Soprano2: I’m late to this, but my advice is don’t kick yourself over this. There is no way of knowing what caused the more rapid advance of your husband’s dementia. It may have gone in that direction more quickly no matter what happened.

    My mother has advanced dementia. Some days are better than others. Sometimes I’ll think things are pretty stable and  are for the most part, ok, then the next day it will be sunny outside and she will interpret shadows as dangerous big animals outside and absolutely panic when I let the dogs out, lest they be mauled or eaten by the dangerous animals. The thing I’ve been dealing with lately is my mother not recognizing the house she’s lived in for more than 40 years. I point out it has all of her stuff in it and that helps, but it’s not permanent. At least she remembers from time to time that we don’t have rhinos, hippos or elephants in NC unless they are in a zoo.

    Just remind yourself you are doing the best you can, and that’s all you can do, and try not to grind or clench your teeth.

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    Quadrillipede

    March 3, 2024 at 4:50 pm

    @hueyplong: Time may be against us in the constantly stalled trials, but it’s with us here.

    This might be overly optimistic, but if I’m understanding the recent DOJ announcement, then the Supreme Court’s blatant punt on the question “are (Republican) presidents actually kings or nah?” might mean we get an insurrection trial verdict in September/October, with former president oatmeal perseverating all over the plaintiffs/jury throughout. I kind of feel like a performance like that ought to nudge the needle, even with the some of the diehard post-reality crowd…

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    Roberto el oso

    March 3, 2024 at 4:53 pm

    @dmsilev: Good thing she’s not Catholic or there’d be a constant “piso mojado” sign outside the confessional booths.

  257. 257.

    Soprano2

    March 3, 2024 at 4:56 pm

    @sab: I think at the age of 99 it’s easy to say no more. I have a friend who believes her husband with Alzheimer’s died a lot sooner due to a hip surgery. At the age of 77 it’s harder, but after this experience I think interventions are more harmful than helpful.

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    sab

    March 3, 2024 at 4:58 pm

    @Soprano2: Thank you for responding. I have two stepsons and I picked the one that loves me least for my medical POA.

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    sab

    March 3, 2024 at 4:59 pm

    @Soprano2: My older sister often disagrees. I ask her “?!@@#$”

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    hueyplong

    March 3, 2024 at 5:01 pm

    @Quadrillipede: May you be celebrated as a seer.

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    Kirk

    March 3, 2024 at 5:02 pm

    @Juju: Or being convinced that the little people are building a basement under the house. They have a door right there, can’t you see it?

  262. 262.

    Soprano2

    March 3, 2024 at 5:02 pm

    @Juju: Thanks. I know it was going to happen eventually, but I’m convinced him getting sick from the clogged stents and being in the hospital is what caused it. The doctor who did his neuropsych evaluation told me that vascular dementia happens in steps rather than being a slow decline, and for sure that’s what happened. Maybe he’ll improve a little bit, but he’ll never be where he was before. I think it wasn’t necessary to do this procedure on a man who has a fatal disease. It may be slow, but in the end the dementia will kill him. If I can’t get him to eat more he’s going to starve to death.

  263. 263.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 5:05 pm

    @Soprano2: my mother would eat only vanilla ice cream voluntarily.  Be prepared for that lack of appetite maybe not getting any easier.

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    sab

    March 3, 2024 at 5:05 pm

    @Soprano2: My dad in his prime was a pathologist so he saw, in addition to cancer slides, all the medical fuckups.

    Elderly are a whole different ball game. Doctors want to help, but the elderly are a whole different ballgame. They react differently (mostly more) to every intervention. Gerontologists know that. Other doctors not so much.

  265. 265.

    Soprano2

    March 3, 2024 at 5:06 pm

    @sab: Some people are in denial and can’t let go. My mother had an advance directive which made it easier to decide what to do when she had her stroke, but also I was the only one to make the decision. I don’t think my sister would have disagreed, though.

  266. 266.

    glc

    March 3, 2024 at 5:06 pm

    @TBone: That’s a tough one.

    My wife had a case that responded well. It’s been quite a while and the details are hazy but I see the CDC still recommends two weeks of antibiotics. My wife was treated in France and my current recollection is that it was 6 weeks. Also, as the total cost was less than the cost of 2 weeks of treatment in the US  our insurance paid for the whole thing, which frankly was a surprise. I’d mentioned that point when submitting the forms but I didn’t really expect them to agree.

  267. 267.

    Uncle Cosmo

    March 3, 2024 at 5:07 pm

    @lowtechcyclist: I’m just this far in in reading the thread, but it’s gonna be hard for anyone to top this line!​

    A humorous op-ed that IIRC appeared in the Wall Street Urinal in the 1980s, entitled something like “Marketing Advances Could Save Religion,” noted that “there is only so much shelf space in the supermarket of religion” and advocated for (among other things**) consolidating the vast majority of the smaller Protestant sects into one umbrella denomination called the Middle American Christian Church (MacChurch). Its services would be pretty much the same everywhere: “Someplace for Mom, Dad, Sis and Junior to go before Sunday brunch where they could be reasonably certain they wouldn’t be asked to speak in tongues, handle snakes, or give money to the Sandinistas.”

    ** This also applied to Catholicism, which the author divided, like Gaul, into three parts: The church as directed from Rome (“RC”), the liberation-theology leftish offshoot (“RC Free”) and the Latin-mass traditionalists (“RC Classic”). As a baptised, communioned, confirmed, and finally former member of the One Holy Catholic And Apostolic Church (OHCAAC), I must admit this had me ROTFLMAO (Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Apse Off)…

  268. 268.

    sab

    March 3, 2024 at 5:07 pm

    @Soprano2: Dementia and anesthesiology do not mix well. Talk to a gerontologist.

  269. 269.

    Soprano2

    March 3, 2024 at 5:08 pm

    @TBone: I know, mostly I’m hoping the CBD/THC will help him want to eat more of whatever he will eat.

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    Juju

    March 3, 2024 at 5:10 pm

    @Soprano2: I have a mid April nephrology appointment with my mother because she’s in stage 3 kidney failure. I looked that up on the Mayo Clinic website, because it sounded serious, and it is, but not as serious as it was made out to me when the nurse called to give me the news. The average person can live up to 25 years with stage 3 kidney disease. My mother is going to be 91 this Wednesday. My brother is a physician and I talked about the situation with him and told him how I felt about it and how I wanted to deal with our mother, which is, she’s 91 and quality of life is more important than quantity, and I’m not going to worry. My brother agrees. When she has doctor appointments it takes a day or so for her to settle back into her routine.  Anyhoo, I hope your husband settles back into his routine. My mother only leaves the house for doctor appointments now. She does better at home than going out.

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    Geminid

    March 3, 2024 at 5:12 pm

    @sab: Israelis are no more a monolith than are American Hispanics, even the 77% of Israeli citizens who are Jews. When people say “Israelis are this,” or “Israelis are that,” they are stereotyping and most often stereotyping incorrectly.

  272. 272.

    TBone

    March 3, 2024 at 5:14 pm

    @Soprano2: that’s a good plan.  THC sure fattens me up.

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    sab

    March 3, 2024 at 5:14 pm

    @Soprano2: My huge concern is my husband versus the stepkids. When my mom was failing my dad (early dementia) would have moved heaven and earth to save her, when she wanted to die. She died of pneumonia at home, which she would have survived if she had been in hospital.

    That was the hospital’s fuckup, not mine. But she had already said she wanted to go home.They sent her, not me.

  274. 274.

    Juju

    March 3, 2024 at 5:15 pm

    @Kirk: Or why is a real estate agent coming in the middle of the night to show someone the house?  Didn’t you hear them when they were here? Why did I put the house up for sale?

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    sab

    March 3, 2024 at 5:15 pm

    @Geminid: Head down, you are right.

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    sab

    March 3, 2024 at 5:27 pm

    I did not always but lately I project Bibi thought on all Iraelis.

    But all Israelis do think non-Israeli Jews are lesser beings.

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    Subsole

    March 3, 2024 at 5:31 pm

    @oldgold:

    Ok.

    And replace him with whom, exactly?

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    Juju

    March 3, 2024 at 5:33 pm

    @Soprano2: My mother went through a phase like that, where she lost weight because she couldn’t remember that she had not eaten, and when I put food in front of her she would insist she’d eaten already. Her doctor suggested having her drink Boost, but she drank three of a six pack and hated them.  So I kept putting food out for her, easy to eat things, like pudding, yogurt, lunchables, instant mashed potatoes, and anything else I thought she’d like. She started eating those things and I made what used to be favorite meals for her and that got things rolling again. My niece sends cookies she makes for her grandma and I discovered my mother really likes Publix coffee cakes. Now she has days where she forgets that she’s eaten and eats more, and days that she thinks she’s eaten but hasn’t. Oddly enough, it all seems to balance out for her and she’s at a good weight and it’s been consistent for the last couple of years. It’s not a balanced diet by any stretch of the imagination, so I make sure she takes daily adult gummy vitamins and hope for the best. I hope you can find something your husband likes to eat and get him to a point where he has more interest in food. I will keep my fingers crossed for you.

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    Juju

    March 3, 2024 at 5:44 pm

    @sab: I hadn’t thought of that. Fortunately my mother has not needed any kind of surgery since her back surgery 20 plus years ago. At this point in her life I would say no to any kind of surgery.

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    Subsole

    March 3, 2024 at 5:50 pm

     

     

    @cain: I know we’re talking about it a lot in medicine.

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    Brachiator

    March 3, 2024 at 5:54 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Very good poll analysis piece. The part about pollsters heavily relying on English speaking Hispanic voters was outrageous.

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    Princess

    March 3, 2024 at 6:03 pm

    @Geminid: Thank you. It’s like someone from Europe describing everyone in the US as Trump lovers in 2017.

    ETA and I have no idea, sab, where you get the notion that Israelis despise American Jews. Some of the most belligerent settlers ARE American Jews. But Israelis with American ties cut right across the political spectrum.

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    Bill Arnold

    March 3, 2024 at 6:05 pm

    @Subsole:

    And replace him with whom, exactly?

    That’s easy: “Johnny Unbeatable”.

  284. 284.

    Brachiator

    March 3, 2024 at 6:08 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    Good Poll analysis.

    Importantly, we shouldn’t trust any polls to be predictive of the final result when there are still more than 200 days to go till the election and a whole lot of unknowns. But let me focus in particular on this poll and what some experts on polling and methodology are saying about it.

    Yep. The crazy thing is that even people who distrust polls treat them as oracles, especially when they like the results. But this is the most important caution about relying on polls. They can be more accurate closer to the election because more voters have decided who they support and most surprises have been taken into account.

    I agree. If you see a poll and half the women are voting for Trump, something went wrong in the polling sample. If women voted like they did in 2020, which we should assume would at least be the case especially since Dobbs, that’s an 11 point difference from this poll. Assuming the poll is half men, half women, that would put the two candidates about even.

    Women are not a monolith. White women and black women vote differently. Unmarried women and married women vote differently. Education level and age are major factors. Southern white women tend to strongly vote Republican.

    But when the new poll shows Biden actually leading nationally within this group [young people] and by 14 points, Carlson observes, the NYT analysis completely ignored this.

    National polls are faulty by definition. They are also lazy. We don’t vote nationally for president. And anyone who tells you that there is a strong correlation between the national vote and state voting is lying.

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    Chief Oshkosh

    March 3, 2024 at 6:42 pm

    @Quadrillipede:

    but even among colleagues who were once outspoken, there’s a new high level of fear, not to mention exhaustion, that we didn’t see before.

    Just spent the weekend with several conservatives. One of them was actually scary. Really nice lady right up to the point that she discovered that I am a Democrat. After that, she got seriously abusive and irrational – absolutely raving – and I was NOT discussing politics at the time (or at any time).

    Just absolutely Looney Tunes. She was panting after her tirade and had to go to bed to sleep it off. Here’s hoping she strokes out when Biden wins. Fuck ‘er.

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    Ruckus

    March 3, 2024 at 6:44 pm

    @Soprano2:

    I’ve dealt with old people with dementia, one had noticeable dementia for over a decade. And the first noticeable incident was being asked a question so out of left field and so out of context that it still makes me wonder WTH after over 30 yrs. That was Alzheimers that later went on, very noticeably, for over 10 yrs. Could not speak or make noise for the last 5.

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    Gvg

    March 3, 2024 at 6:50 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Sounds like a good way to lose to me. I prefer that outcome of course. I imagine the lesson they learned is never admit who you really support.

    I mean, they went to one of his rally’s, so they were potential voters, and he attacks them.

  288. 288.

    Chief Oshkosh

    March 3, 2024 at 6:54 pm

    @AlaskaReader:

    There is no doubt Clark is a phenom.

    But credit due to players who preceded her, the new ‘record’ just isn’t the same thing.

    Sort of how I feel about F1 records. There’s no doubt that Hamilton, Vettel, and Verstappen are fantastic drivers, but Juan Manuel Fandgio did it when a mistake was fatal.

    Harumph!

  289. 289.

    Gvg

    March 3, 2024 at 6:56 pm

    @Baud: Historically, and not that long ago, a bunch of big unions were very racist, and would not let POC in, or did not apply the rules fairly. They were very reactionary in the 70’s and I really think that might be one reason they lost a lot of influence. It’s only recently that unions have finally shown that they have matured ethically. So older people like me are surprised when we hear this.

  290. 290.

    Fake Irishman

    March 3, 2024 at 7:18 pm

    @Gvg:

    Depends a lot on the union.

    Culinary workers local 5 in Las Vegas really got strong by organizing primarily Hispanic casino workers and ensuring they got opportunities for career advancements.

    The UAW leadership really worked hard on educating membership about civil rights for decades and quietly funded a lot of activism.

    The building trades, not so much.

  291. 291.

    billcinsd

    March 3, 2024 at 7:49 pm

    @AlaskaReader: Pistol Pete also played in the era when freshman were not eligible to play for the varsity. The Pistol averaged 43.8 ppg as a sophomore

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