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Monday Evening Open Thread: RFK Jr, Pursued By A Bear (Story)

by Anne Laurie|  August 5, 20248:34 pm| 134 Comments

This post is in: Elections 2024, Open Threads

Kristi Noem: No one will top my bizarre animal killing stories.

RFK Jr.: Hold my bear.

— Josh Gondelman (@joshgondelman) August 4, 2024

Actually, you don’t get weirder than Roseanne giving you side-eye…

You don't get weirder than RFK Jr. talking to Roseanne about dumping a bear in Central Park in an attempt to get ahead of a story about it. We have his version, I'll be interested to hear the real story. This man is a maniac.
pic.twitter.com/vPDE50yfqB

— TheRealThelmaJohnson (@TheRealThelmaJ1) August 4, 2024

In the patois of our people: Better to have kept his tongue between his teeth. The New Yorker profile is not an Isaac Chotiner special; it was probably intended as a beat-sweetener, but it reads more like a lawyer’s dutiful plea for his client’s early parole (The tragic chronic illness of substance abuse… traumatic childhood… bad companions… we’re all very pleased with how well Bobby’s incorporated his hard-won lessons. ) Here’s the entirety of the New Yorker’s take on the bear story, four-fifths of the way through a very long, deeply dispiriting narrative:

… One day, in the fall of 2014, Kennedy was driving to a falconry outing in upstate New York when he passed a furry brown mound on the side of the road. He pulled over and discovered that it was the carcass of a black-bear cub. Kennedy was tickled by the find. He loaded the dead bear into the rear hatch of his car and later showed it off to his friends. In a picture from that day, Kennedy is putting his fingers inside the bear’s bloody mouth, a comical grimace across his face. (When I asked Kennedy about the incident, he said, “Maybe that’s where I got my brain worm.”)

After the outing, Kennedy, who was then sixty and recently married to Hines, got an idea. He drove to Manhattan and, as darkness fell, entered Central Park with the bear and a bicycle. A person with knowledge of the event said that Kennedy thought it would be funny to make it look as if the animal had been killed by an errant cyclist. The next day, the bear was discovered by two women walking their dogs, setting off an investigation by the N.Y.P.D. “This is a highly unusual situation,” a spokeswoman for the Central Park Conservancy told the Times. “It’s awful.” In a follow-up piece for the Times, which was coincidentally written by Tatiana Schlossberg, one of J.F.K.’s granddaughters, a retired Bronx homicide commander commented, “People are crazy.”…

My people — our (Irish-American) people — have a tradition of composing proud sagas about our reckless, feckless, substance-abusing Warriors (aka chaos muppets). I was told that our drunks run in packs because there’s got to be at least one guy in the bunch who can piece together a narrative after the event. My old man was a (mostly functional) alcoholic, so this is how I understand RFK’s bear tale, from RFK’s own telling:

Bobby and a bunch of his guys spent the afternoon out in the hunting field, an expedition where a certain amount of celebratory drinking is practically mandatory. Eventually, everybody piled into RFK’s van, which was driven by RFK himself, because of course it would be very wrong to hand over the keys to a(nother) drunk, officer!

At some point on the way to Westchester, a bear cub — probably already dead — was encountered. It seemed like a good idea to stuff the carcass in the back of the van, because Bobby could skin it later, and maybe the meat would be edible, at least for the falcons or something. *Totally* legal, because a retroactive game license for roadkill bear is available in NY state. (Remember, kids: Bobby had not been drinking.)

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However, Bobby eventually remembered that he had an important dinner engagement down in New York City (at a very nice upscale steakhouse in the outer boroughs, which would’ve required a certain amount of tricky street navigation), so he didn’t have the chance to stop at his Westchester home after all. (And what the Peter Luger staff did about their notorious dress code, I have no idea.) When he left the restaurant, some hours later, he was facing a deadline for a flight to Europe.

Now, leaving an (untagged) bear carcass in a van in a public airport parking lot… would be sub-optimal. So Bobby had another brilliant idea for a great jest: He could leave the cub’s body in Manhattan’s largest greensward, Central Park! And with it, a bicycle, which also happened to be in the back of the van! Epic, dude!…

The carcass was discovered by dog-walkers only a few hours later (Manhattan is not Fargo), to a certain amount of local media interest. But — I’m guessing here — once the NYPD tested the bike for fingerprints (the NYPD loves fingerprints like Cole loves farmers markets, their collection is both extensive & comprehensive), and could be certain they didn’t have a new sicko testing out animal murders before upgrading to humans, well… Presumably the time & expense of challenging the notoriously assertive Kennedy lawyers-on-retainer squad (and maybe having to fetch the perp back from Europe) seemed excessive in comparison to any potential benefit. It’s not as though they didn’t have enough ‘serious’ crime (and unserious media) to deal with…

As to whether fledgling reporter Tatiania Schlossberg had any idea her cousin-once-removed might be involved in the story she wrote up… Well, Zhah-KLEEN Bouvier Kennedy Onassis famously despised her first husband’s family as a bunch of brawling bogtrotters, common as pig [muck], and did her best to keep her kids away from them to the extent possible. I don’t know if Tatiana ever spent much time in Hyannisport (or how much of the Bear Story actually circulated within the family, given the wealth of choices), so it might well be as much a surprise to her now as it is to the rest of the world.

How NYC local news covered the dead bear RFK Jr put into Central Park ten years ago ???? https://t.co/J25gDeLQ1Q pic.twitter.com/nJio51Li3R

— Luther Lowe (@lutherlowe) August 4, 2024

Written by JFK’s granddaughter!

— Karen Moline (@karenmoline) August 4, 2024

maybe not the right merch for them to be selling? pic.twitter.com/TWglOAiDSr

— Jesse Ferguson (@JesseFFerguson) August 5, 2024

Genuinely, thoroughly believable that the literal brainworms guy's first thought with a roadkill apex predator was to try and eat it.

— zeddy (@Zeddary) August 4, 2024

RFK's dead bear story is a ploy to make JD Vance's eyeliner and couch surfing seem less weird. False flag!

— Tom Watson (@tomwatson) August 5, 2024

If a year or so ago he had released some of these details himself he'd now be somewhat inoculated against attacks.

But that's the problem with being against inoculations. https://t.co/lBu3zVSeeI

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) August 4, 2024

RFK Jr should donate his body to medicine to identify how someone who's literally fried, pickled, and boiled their brain in drugs is still alive.

— n_pedersen (@mbDunningKruger) August 4, 2024

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Water, water everywhere (open thread)

by Betty Cracker|  August 5, 20246:40 pm| 47 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

What a difference a day makes! Here’s the little peninsula that juts out into the river in front of our house (Pendejo Point) shortly after 6 PM yesterday as the hurricane was moving up the coast:

Water, water everywhere (open thread)

Here it is today after a foot of rain overnight:

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Our river had plenty of excess capacity, unlike the Suwannee, which is getting pounded by the storm now in a way that has my relatives who live on it in a tizzy. (We are a riparian people.)

Please overlook our cruddy screens! It’s tough to keep them clear in the Mildew State.

Open thread!

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The VP has been chosen?

by WaterGirl|  August 5, 20245:32 pm| 274 Comments

This post is in: Elections 2024, Open Threads, Politics

Yikes, I leave to go pick up a check from a client, and I come back to this.

What did I miss?

A VP has been chosen.

Everyone can start making weekend plans again.

— Jack E. Smith ⚖️ (@7Veritas4) August 5, 2024

Is (fake) Jack Smith correct?

Open thread.

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They Are All Mob Bosses Now

by WaterGirl|  August 5, 20241:55 pm| 256 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, This Fight Is For Everything

They are all mob bosses now.  So brazen – they are confident that they can get away with anything.

Mob Boss Neil Gorsuch:

Be careful…or what? https://t.co/zDL3NkIZG4

— Jack E. Smith ⚖️ (@7Veritas4) August 4, 2024

Don’t like your neighbor?  Don’t like how someone votes?  Now, in Georgia, you don’t have to just grumble about that.  You can request that they be taken off the voter rolls!

NEW EPISODE: The state of Georgia has created a new online portal that makes it easier to cancel people’s voter registrations. @marceelias shares his concerns about how the website will likely fuel election vigilantism in the state.

Watch the full video:https://t.co/SKYUKyatqB pic.twitter.com/nqo53pVnnB

— Democracy Docket (@DemocracyDocket) August 5, 2024

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Lady Justice cannot be happy abut any of this.

In November, let’s show them that they’re wrong about that.

Update:  Drip, drip, drip, you bastard.  Maybe if you step down you won’t be prosecuted.

Justice Clarence Thomas failed to report a 2010 trip from Hawaii to New Zealand on the conservative donor Harlan Crow’s jet, Senator Ron Wyden, a Democrat of Oregon and the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, said.

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— The New York Times (@nytimes.com) Aug 5, 2024 at 11:52 AM

h/t M31

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Monday Morning Open Thread: Tenterhooks

by Anne Laurie|  August 5, 20249:13 am| 228 Comments

This post is in: Elections 2024, Kamala Harris for President, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

When we fight, we win. pic.twitter.com/jOnuEXrMXm

— Kamala Harris (@KamalaHarris) August 4, 2024

We’re supposed to get Harris’ VP pick today, and I have to admit I’m with the Blogfather on this one…

Hear me out- DNC, lights dim, in the background RATM's blasty ass bass riff from Wake Up starts playing at ear bleeding volume. Out strides Tim Walz, wearing a faded artillery t-shirt, faded jeans, boots, and a shit eating grin, arm in arm with Megan thee Stallion

— Cake or Death (@Johngcole) August 4, 2024

And yet:

To be clear, I have my own preference of vice-presidential choice, but if Kamala Harris picks to run on a ticket with Thomas Eagleton's cadaver, she has my unequivocal support. She is running against Donald Trump and J.D. Vance. No other perspective or consideration is necessary.

— David Simon (@AoDespair) August 5, 2024

Kamala Harris now has a national lead in the polling averages at 538 and RCP (lol).

Not a good sign for Trump that even polling averages engineered to benefit Republicans are now showing him behind. pic.twitter.com/yNSBQZDBvx

— Matt McDermott (@mattmfm) August 4, 2024

Elsewhere…

Calling U.S. citizens abroad who want to volunteer to get Kamala Harris and other Dems elected. Go to www.democratsabroad.org/join to help other people living abroad vote. You can go to www.votefromabroad.org to get your own registration and request your ballot without any commitment to Democrats

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— Michele (@ibumichele.bsky.social) Jul 31, 2024 at 1:42 PM

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Don't skip past this.
The American Bar Association has never declared a national emergency before, but that's what they're doing here.

They're calling for a huge posse of lawyers to protect against more Stone/ Kraken shenanigans during the November elections.@DemocracyDocket https://t.co/94finemrjg

— Monty Boa (@MontyBoa99) August 2, 2024

I was a Republican for 37 years, serving as a lawmaker and as Chairman of the state party. Now I am proud to support VP Harris because she is better than Trump on national security, better on the economy, and unlike Trump, she will stand with the Constitution and the rule of law pic.twitter.com/Dhcd0VTMAq

— Chris Vance ???????? (@Chrisvance123) August 4, 2024

Trump White House Aides Desert Donald for Kamala in ‘Republicans for Harris’ Drive – The Daily Beast whoa https://t.co/9x9hNsIrFm

— DL Hughley (@RealDLHughley) August 5, 2024

Jason Kander, the guy who almost kept Josh Hawley from becoming a US Senator, wrote this about Kamala Harris & I thought it was worth sharing.

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— DTwyman (@dtwyman.bsky.social) Aug 4, 2024 at 12:26 PM

We run to win.

Win to govern.

Govern to make life better for everyday Americans.

— Hakeem Jeffries (@RepJeffries) August 4, 2024

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Squishable BYO Morning News

by WaterGirl|  August 5, 20249:11 am| 32 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics

I’m not sure what Anne Laure is up to this morning, but I don’t see anything going on in the back room.  Hopefully we’ll see her soon.  In the meantime, it’s BYO (bring your own) morning news time.

Let’s share some good political news.

I do love this.

Nice. pic.twitter.com/mJgYFwkLzB

— Jack E. Smith ⚖️ (@7Veritas4) August 3, 2024

Open thread.

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Wee Hours Open Thread

by Betty Cracker|  August 5, 20242:11 am| 168 Comments

This post is in: How about that weather?, Open Threads

Kingfisher bird
Full disclosure: I’m posting these thoughts under the influence of some choice state-sanctioned medical marijuana. I still marvel at its availability in this backward-ass state, and good stuff too!

Am currently sitting on the porch as the wind howls and rain falls in hissing sheets. Hurricane Debby is passing west of us, and I feel better about it since the storm crossed our latitude.

Looks like Cedar Key will be sideswiped and Steinhatchee will take a direct hit. Best of luck to all in the path!

I heard a branch or something heavy land on our boat a while ago. It’s too dark to see what’s going on, but I hear debris occasionally.

The doughty vessel is a 1985 metal jon boat, so it is basically indestructible as long as the engine wasn’t hit. Sunrise will tell the tale!

What are y’all up to?

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