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Violent Insurrection at the Capitol

Friday Evening Fight Club Open Thread: MAGAt Buyers’ Remorse

by Anne Laurie|  May 14, 20218:04 pm| 57 Comments

This post is in: domestic terrorists, Investigations Into Violent Extremist Attacks, Open Threads, Republican Venality, Violent Insurrection at the Capitol, Schadenfreude

Proud Boy leader Ethan Nordean lashed out at Trump on Jan. 20, when it dawned on him that he’d likely be going to jail for the ex-president, according to new messages revealed by prosecutors last night. pic.twitter.com/JX1MvvsGR2

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) May 14, 2021

Goodness gracious, who *could* have expected?…

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So glad he was able to pardon a bunch of degenerates as his last move and s— on us on the way out," Nordean said in an expletive-laden message about the former president. "F— you trump you left us on [t]he battle field bloody and alone." https://t.co/irFwmyuGzX

— John FitzGerald (@TheTweetOfJohn) May 14, 2021


To have your shame spattered all over USAToday!

… Nordean is one of several members of the extremist group with ties to white supremacy whose members describe themselves as “Western Chauvinists.” He’s among the more than 400 people who have been charged for their alleged roles in the deadly assault on the Capitol on Jan. 6.

Prosecutors say Nordean, along with other Proud Boys members, planned to push through police barricades and force themselves inside the building that day. Nordean, the self-described “sergeant-at-arms” of the Proud Boys’ Seattle chapter is facing several charges, including conspiracy, obstruction of an official proceeding, and aiding and abetting.

In a court filing Thursday, prosecutors detailed communications sent through the instant messaging app Telegram that they say show additional evidence that Nordean and other Proud Boys members conspired to breach the Capitol. Prosecutors included the anti-Trump diatribe in which Nordean seemed to acknowledged he and others are facing criminal charges because they followed Trump’s lead…

The filing was in response to a motion by Nordean’s attorney accusing prosecutors of failing to timely release evidence that contradict allegations of a conspiracy. Defense attorneys cited several messages sent after Jan. 6 in which Nordean said that storming the Capitol was not planned and that he no longer wants to be involved in politics.

Prosecutors dismissed the allegations, saying the trove of messages extracted from Nordean’s phone are “far from being exculpatory” and contain additional evidence of a crime…

I am not a lawyer, but I’m sensing a ‘led astray by bad companions’ defense. Not the easiest lift, when the prosecution submits evidence that the defendant is a charter member of the ‘Bad Companions of the Month, Armed Rabble-Rouser Division’ club…

It was similar in character to some of the whiplash other Trump-supporting extremists experienced when they realized he wasn’t planning to rush to their aid — like Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes as the riot was underway. pic.twitter.com/KnqIk27Vcy

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) May 14, 2021

I wonder if Ron Coleman will sue me if I observe that the Proud Boys are gullible dipshits https://t.co/CXOkFovpla

— EveryKneeShallBowHat (@Popehat) May 14, 2021

I further assume this is being ciruclated now because the official GOP leadership has decided to go with the ‘Misguided Tourists’ explanation for their followers’ violent actions on January 6th…

Republicans recast deadly Jan. 6 attack by pro-Trump mob as ‘normal tourist visit’ Via @ColbyItkowitz https://t.co/3h2fuwbcO2

— DonnaCassata (@DonnaCassata) May 12, 2021

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GOP Death Cult Open Thread: Uruk-Hai Assemble!

by Anne Laurie|  May 13, 20215:18 pm| 124 Comments

This post is in: domestic terrorists, GOP Death Cult, Open Threads, Violent Insurrection at the Capitol, Lock Him Up...Lock Them All Up

Rep. Ralph Norman (R-SC) is questioning whether the Capitol rioters were Trump supporters. He says nobody did a "poll" of the rioters. This is ridiculous. The rioters wore Trump hats/shirts, flew Trump flags, chanted pro-Trump slogans, and later told the feds they loved Trump.

— Marshall Cohen (@MarshallCohen) May 12, 2021

From yesterday’s hearing with Christopher Miller, who was (nominally) in charge of the Pentagon’s Capitol-riot response. Never thought I’d be grateful Stephen Lynch is in Congress, but JFC these Repubs…

Democrats grilled former Trump officials at a House hearing on the response to the January 6th Capitol attack https://t.co/S1Pxn8Q2rF pic.twitter.com/eXtNuDaoP3

— Reuters (@Reuters) May 13, 2021

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This is Rep. Andrew Clyde (Q-GA) saying the January 6 insurrection looked like “a normal tourist visit” inside the Capitol.

Just batsh*t crazy.

Has anyone told him it’s all on video?pic.twitter.com/iUtoDTneD2

— Rex Chapman???? (@RexChapman) May 12, 2021

A “normal tourist visit” cc @Rep_Clyde https://t.co/5xGNpjNKb6

— Seung Min Kim (@seungminkim) May 13, 2021

WaPo: During a House hearing, one Republican accused the Justice Department of harassing “peaceful patriots” as the FBI seeks to identify and arrest rioters who breached the Capitol.https://t.co/YtiWq7R6zr

— Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) May 13, 2021

Jody Hice, who is running for Georgia secretary state with Trump's support, said: "It was Trump supporters who lost their lives that day, not Trump supporters who were taking the lives of others." https://t.co/z6jgVlGz7S

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) May 12, 2021

The most astounding thing about this (and there are many) is that these lawmakers are denying a violent insurrection that took place *at their own place of work.*

They were there! Their own lives, and their own staffers’ lives, were literally in danger.

— Felicia Sonmez (@feliciasonmez) May 12, 2021


But their God-Emperor had cast his cloak of protection over them… IT’S A F*CKING DEATH CULT.

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January 6, 2021: Whitewashing of the Insurrection

by WaterGirl|  April 28, 20214:00 pm| 36 Comments

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This 10-minute interview with Officer Michael Fanone of the Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) is very powerful.

Officer Michael Fanone tells @donlemon it’s been very difficult to see elected officials whitewash what happened on Jan. 6.

He was stun-gunned several times and beaten with a flagpole during the Capitol attack.

Watch part 1 of his first in-depth interview: pic.twitter.com/4LzuJcfztl

— CNN Tonight (@CNNTonight) April 28, 2021

Watch the video.  It’s just 10 minutes of your time; then if you feel like I do, share it far and wide.

[Officer] Fanone suffered a heart attack and a concussion during the insurrection and is now dealing with a traumatic brain injury and post-traumatic stress disorder.

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“I experienced the most brutal, savage hand-to-hand combat of my entire life,” he said Tuesday. “Let alone my policing career, which spans almost two decades. It was nothing that I had ever thought would be a part of my law enforcement career, nor was I prepared to experience.”

Federal prosecutors have filed charges against Thomas Sibick, who allegedly participated in the assault of Fanone. Prosecutors said Sibick was seen in police body-camera footage assaulting Fanone while he lay on the ground outside the Capitol during the riot.

During the brawl outside the Capitol, Sibick allegedly grabbed Fanone’s badge and radio, and he later posted a photo of himself holding a police shield on Facebook, court filings say.

“I want people to understand the significance of January 6,” Fanone said Tuesday. “I want people to understand that thousands of rioters came to the Capitol hell-bent on violence and destruction and murder.”

Read the CNN article

h/t zhena gogolia

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Late Night Horrorshow Open Thread: Masks Off (Hoods On)

by Anne Laurie|  April 10, 20211:19 am| 29 Comments

This post is in: GOP Death Cult, Open Threads, Post-racial America, Violent Insurrection at the Capitol, MONSTERS

In the last two weeks, Tucker Carlson has agreed with the idea that Republicans will eventually be “forced” to pick a fascist leader, has defended the fascists who attacked the Capitol on 1/6, and is now speaking up in support of neo-Nazi ideology. https://t.co/fh3IunJNQO

— Matt O'Brien (@ObsoleteDogma) April 9, 2021

so we’re just gonna go full white supremacist great replacement on fox news now. no euphemisms. no wink wink.

not great bob

— Peloton InfoSec Analyst (Incident Response) (@CalmSporting) April 9, 2021

What Tucker Carlson says here about whites being replaced by the "Third World" lines up with what the New Zealand terrorist wrote in his 2019 manifesto.

Society condemned that document and pushed it off the web. This we feed to millions every night. https://t.co/Ty3ao6Hcfx

— Michael Edison Hayden (@MichaelEHayden) April 9, 2021

Hard to disagree with Tucker Carlson: these are just honest, hard-working, economically anxious and politically disenfranchised people who just really, really love this country.
Well, a country. pic.twitter.com/vj5EIOI4qQ

— Slava Malamud (@SlavaMalamud) April 8, 2021

Of course, wealthy aristocrats like Carlson don’t lead their own slave patrols; there’s always ‘white trash’ bullies who’ll do the hard work in return for crumbs, plus the chance to feel better than Those People…

I guess he only went with “Hillbilly Elegy” because the book title “My Struggle” was already taken. pic.twitter.com/V7dXWlOPHO

— Greg Greene (@ggreeneva) April 9, 2021

The 2024 GOP platform is just gonna be “The Purge” box set. https://t.co/x48X1bmv6J

— Peter Wolf (@peterawolf) April 6, 2021


(I’d like to believe she meant ‘shoot’ as in ‘film’, but… )

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Domestic Terrorism Open Thread: Yup, It’s Sedition

by Anne Laurie|  March 22, 20219:03 pm| 82 Comments

This post is in: domestic terrorists, GOP Death Cult, Open Threads, Violent Insurrection at the Capitol

“It’s unequivocal that #Trump was the magnet that brought the people to D.C. on the 6th.

Now the question is, is he criminally culpable for everything that happened during the siege, during the breach? We have people looking at everything." #CapitolRiotspic.twitter.com/usPosJEYma

— Julie Laumann (@Otpor17) March 22, 2021

I try not to get my hopes up, but it’s nice to know some of the terrorists must be getting a little sweaty…

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Former acting US attorney Michael Sherwin, who had led DOJ’s inquiry into the #CapitolRiots: evidence most likely supports sedition charges https://t.co/YV3SXxDVup

— Julie Laumann (@Otpor17) March 22, 2021

Federal prosecutors generally are not permitted to speak publicly about ongoing investigations. I was surprised (to put it mildly) that Sherwin went on 60 minutes and discussed the Capitol attack investigation. I wonder who (if anyone) at DOJ authorized that. https://t.co/2lCLB2tysQ

— Glenn Kirschner (@glennkirschner2) March 22, 2021

Proud Boys, militiamen, a convicted abortion clinic bomber, Charlottesville rioters, Neo-Nazis with security clearances, a descendant of Joe McCarthy's speechwriter, close family of Dirty War vets…just a real who's who of the most toxic reactionary forces of the past century. https://t.co/LTVvpPXuIQ

— Zeddy (@Zeddary) March 19, 2021

Like we just need a Watergate burglar, one of the Rodney King case cops, and idk maybe an Iran-Contra Cessna pilot for 1/6 to have been Fashy Dipshit Endgame. And we might get there!

— Zeddy (@Zeddary) March 19, 2021

"We are trying to avoid getting into any shit tonight. Tomorrow’s the day."

"…cops are the primary threat"

"…we can be looking at Gang charges"

"I’m proud as fuck what we accomplished yesterday"

On the latest Proud Boys conspiracy indictment: https://t.co/0nHlYigEQx

— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) March 19, 2021

Pew poll: 69% of Americans said it is important to prosecute the Capitol rioters.

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) March 18, 2021

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Capitol Insurrection Open Thread: … The Aristocrats!

by Anne Laurie|  March 18, 20219:36 pm| 78 Comments

This post is in: domestic terrorists, Excellent Links, Violent Insurrection at the Capitol

Who were the people who took private jets to the Stop the Steal rally in DC? @abigailtracy found one group from Memphis and got quite the story. A must-read https://t.co/f2VrLICH9I

— Miriam Elder (@MiriamElder) March 18, 2021

Vanity Fair‘s sweet spot, between glossy entertainment reporting and politics. “A Private Jet of Rich Trumpers Wanted to “Stop the Steal”—But They Don’t Want You to Read This”:

At 12:11 p.m. on January 5, an eight-seat Bombardier Challenger 300 jet took off from Memphis International Airport. A little over an hour and a half and one time zone later, it touched down at Dulles, just outside of Washington, D.C. The following day a seditious horde of Donald Trump supporters, unapologetically encouraged by him, mounted an insurrection to stop the certification of Joe Biden’s Electoral College victory. “After this we’re going to walk down, and I’ll be there with you,” the 45th president told attendees of the “Stop the Steal” rally gathered at the Ellipse, a park a little over one mile from the Hill. At 2:11 p.m. the first of the mob had breached the Capitol on the west side of the building, near the Senate chamber. At 5:34 p.m. the sergeant at arms informed lawmakers that the Capitol was secure. At 6:39 p.m. the Challenger was wheels-up, an hour behind schedule, according to flight data. It touched down in Memphis at 7:25 p.m., back in central time.

As the dust settled in the capital city, the aperture of the moment largely focused on the most violent (the ones with zip ties and stun guns) and the most outrageous (the shirtless QAnon shaman). And while lawmakers reckoned with what would come next—would Vice President Mike Pence invoke the 25th Amendment? Would the inauguration bring more violence?—a murmur began to bubble among Memphis’s lily white country-club elite. Did you hear John Dobbs flew his buddies to the capital on his private jet? A photo posted to the Instagram account of George Zanone III features the lineup: Dobbs, Zanone, Carter Campbell Sr., Vince Smith and his wife, Kaki Valerius Smith, brothers Dan and Bob McEwan, and one unidentified man mug against the backdrop of the nose of a private jet alongside the caption, “Go follow @memphispatriots,” plus a Washington, D.C., location tag. The photo disappeared from Zanone’s social media grid, otherwise a memorial to dead ducks and deer, but not before a few quietly horrified members of local society could screenshot it. As for the Bombardier Challenger? It is registered to Baron Partners, a limited liability company that shares the same address, down to the suite number, with John Hull Dobbs Jr.’s eponymous investment firm, Dobbs Equity Partners.

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Cumulatively, the individuals in the photograph with the plane are worth millions and millions of dollars, with business interests that span the southeast: sizable stakes in auto dealerships, financial firms whose earnings rival those of Wall Street shops, a chunk of the Corky’s BBQ chain, major real estate developments, hospitality services with clients including Marriott and Hilton hotels, and registered “plantations,” which are used as hunt clubs. Their cohort is emblematic of a certain segment of rich, white American society where the so-called quiet part is cacophonous background noise—private schools, booster clubs, country clubs. In Memphis there is a black-tie ball and festival where men and women, including Dobbs, dress up as royalty and anoint one another “queens,” “princesses,” and “kings.” This society is for the manor-born, and the conservatives among it have little to do with the caricature of the down-on-their-luck, economically anxious Trump voter of media lore. To wit: In the aftermath of the “Stop the Steal” rally and Capitol riot, a two-time Olympic gold medalist, a state lawmaker, and a successful Texas real estate agent were among those swept up by law enforcement for their involvement.

When Vanity Fair asked Dobbs about the “Stop the Steal” rally on January 6, he initially denied knowledge of it. “I don’t know anything about a rally like that,” he said in a phone conversation, suggesting that Vanity Fair might have meant to contact John Dobbs Sr., his father. Dobbs Jr. said he was about to board a plane—at the time of the call, the Bombardier Challenger 300 registered to Baron Partners was in Colorado—and ended the conversation, but he did not hang up his phone for several minutes. During this period Dobbs could be heard discussing the phone call from Vanity Fair. When an unidentified person suggested somebody was “messing with” Dobbs, he dismissed the notion. “Were you there at Coca-Cola Woods when they called me?” Dobbs said. “They called me; The Commercial Appeal [a Memphis newspaper] was going to do an article, and it was going to be publicized. It was going to be all over, you know, Gwinnett [Editor’s note: He likely meant Gannett, the largest U.S. newspaper publisher, which owns The Commercial Appeal] was going to pick it up.” The unidentified individual responded, “No comment.” Dobbs then said, “Well, I told ’em, I said, I don’t know what you’re talking about”—laughed—“You must be talking about my dad or something.” Then, “God, the last thing I want to do is talk to them.” When the unidentified individual said, “As your part-time spiritual adviser, do not talk to them,” Dobbs responded, “It wouldn’t be as bad now. I don’t know why, why is it still—why is it still a story for them?”…

“You guys are relative masters of the universe yet you feel the need to be up there and participate in this coup,” says one Memphis-born source who is younger but knows a number of the private-jet playgroup members through various social connections. “What happened that you decided not only this is your guy, but that you’re gonna hop on a private jet and go up there and participate in this?”…

That’s some quality branding work by Tennessee Republicans. https://t.co/b4KzUQEKEj

— Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) March 18, 2021

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The Two Real Reasons the House Cancelled Today’s Session, Which Was An Understandable, But Really Bad Idea

by Adam L Silverman|  March 4, 202112:24 pm| 101 Comments

This post is in: America, An Unexamined Scandal, Crazification Factor, Domestic Politics, domestic terrorists, Investigations Into Violent Extremist Attacks, Open Threads, Politics, Silverman on Security, Violent Insurrection at the Capitol

Earlier this morning Anne Laurie highlighted that the House of Representatives would be taking today off because of a threat assessment, based on intelligence collected from social media and other sources, that some group of right wing violent domestic extremists – white supremacists, neo-NAZIs, armed and illegal paramilitary groups (aka “militias” and “patriot” groups), and/or other anti-government extremists – working off of a historically bonkers QAnon drop that is itself rooted in sovereign citizen (anti-government extremist) bullshit that 4 March is the real inauguration day and that since today is 4 March, Donald J. Trump is going to be inaugurated for his second term today. And that to celebrate, these anti-American violent domestic extremists were planning on attacking the Capitol again to kill as many members of Congress as possible. Or as members of the Bundy family call it: Thursday.

Just a few minutes ago, not realizing that he’d fallen for my nefariously cunning plan to turn him into my warm up routine, Mistermix asked the following question:

My second question is why the Capital is not ringed with soldiers, why every member and staffer doesn’t have an armed escort, and why some kind of armored vehicles aren’t patrolling streets around the building so the House can meet today?  (The Senate is in session, which makes little sense if you’re closing the House for a threat.)  Is not capitulating to terrorists reserved for foreign terrorists only?

There are two reasons that the House decided to cancel, even though the Capitol is nominally open for business given the pandemic protocols and the US Senate – the world’s greatest deliberative country club – is in session. Both reasons are different types of insider threats. An insider threat is defined as:

An insider threat is any person with authorized access to any U.S. Government resources, including personnel, facilities, information, equipment, networks, or systems, who uses that access either wittingly or unwittingly to do harm to the security of the U.S.

This threat can include damage to the U.S. through espionage, terrorism, unauthorized disclosure of national security information, or through the loss or degradation of government, company, contract or program information, resources or capabilities.

The first of these insider threats is from within the Capitol Police specifically and Federal law enforcement in general. Right now there are six officers from the Capitol Police Department that are suspended and another twenty-nine who are under investigation as part of the ongoing investigations into the 6 January insurrection at the Capitol. As a result, there is a very real worry that members of the Capitol Police may be sympathetic to these violent domestic extremists or, even worse, actually subjectively or objectively affiliated with them. It was reported yesterday that a DEA agent from LA has been suspended pending the outcome of an investigation into his activities during the insurrection at the Capitol on 6 January. There is a credible threat of both specific insider threats within the Capitol Police Department and a general concern that there may be additional insider threats within and throughout other Federal law enforcement agencies. This means that those who work in the Capitol – from elected members of both chambers to their staffs to the committee staffs to the staff that just keep the building running for everyone else – may be at risk from those who are supposed to be protecting them.

The second insider threat is from members of the House Republican Caucus and/or members of their staff. Within hours of the attack on the Capitol, Democratic members of the House, led by Congresswoman Mikie Sherill, alleged that Republican members of the House and/or their staff gave reconnaissance tours to the insurrectionists in the days leading up to the attack.  Congressman Tim Ryan, who chairs the sub-committee with oversight over the Capitol complex itself, indicated last week that this question is now under active investigation by the US Attorney’s Office for the District of Colombia:

Ryan also told reporters the issue of “reconnaissance tours” given by members of Congress to alleged rioters before the attack was now “in the hands of the U.S. attorney here in D.C.”

He said they were “reviewing the footage.”

In this case the concern is that there are members of the House of Representatives, specifically the House Republican caucus, or members of their staffs who aided and abetted the insurrectionists in planning and facilitating the domestic terrorist attack on the Capitol on 6 January. One of the reasons that this investigation has to be done by reviewing footage and not reviewing visitor log details is because there are no visitor logs right now as the Capitol is closed to visitors under the pandemic control protocols that have been put into place. Ordinarily everyone who enters for one of these member or member’s staff given tours has to provide a significant amount of personally identifying information (PII) that would be logged into the system and cross referenced against who was escorting them, for what purposes, and the day, date, and time of entry and departure. That information isn’t available for this investigation because none of the members or their staffs are supposed to be giving tours, which makes it a perfect time to aide and abet surveillance ahead of a domestic terrorist attack by taking advantage of the normal record keeping process being suspended.

Given these two potential and suspected insider threats, it is perfectly understandable why the House would go into recess for the week a day early. It is also a terrible decision for all that it makes perfect sense. Every time one or more of these specific domestic extremists, domestic extremist group, or the members of the Republican House or Senate caucus who have decided to either represent them or indulge them in the hopes of electoral success (Senator Micro Rubio is definitely in the latter category), make a threat and get a response to them that is a rewards for making a threat, they win. Moreover, they learn that making a threat or actually carrying out a threat – stalking, harassing, and verbally assaulting members of the House or Senate, attacking the Capitol or a member’s office back in their districts and states, doing the same thing at the state and municipal levels, etc – they receive reinforcement not just for their revanchist, reactionary anti-American, and anti-constitutional beliefs, but for the actions they take to make those beliefs real. The more rewards and reinforcement they receive, the more they will engage in these behaviors and others will be inspired and motivated to adopt these beliefs and behaviors for themselves.

And that is why this moment is very different and uniquely dangerous compared to previous moments of hyper-polarization in US politics. Normally we would all want to try to make a distinction, painting with a very fine brush if you will, between those who hold ideologically extreme views, but work within the existing political system and processes to achieve their goals and those who hold those same views, but advocate and undertake the use of violence to achieve the same goals. We would want to do this because by channeling even those with ideologically extreme views through the existing political system and process it keeps them both in touch with those that don’t hold their views, exposes them to counter-arguments, and uses the system to temper their extremism by using the systems and processes to prevent their extremist beliefs from becoming extremist outcomes. This moment is unique, however, because that is both not possible and because the system is not working to do that. Hawley, Cruz, Cotton, Lee, Johnson, Grassley, McConnell, Graham, Tuberville, and almost thirty other Republicans in the Senate and Greene, Boebert, Cawthorne, Gaetz, Jordan, McCarthy, Scalise, and almost 140 other Republicans in the House have all made it explicitly clear that if the existing political system and processes won’t produce the outcomes that they prefer, that they are perfectly happy to subvert them and if that doesn’t work destroy them to achieve their objectives. Moreover, they are using the threats of and actual violence and terrorism by the violent domestic extremists to justify their actions and achieve their objectives. This is not one or two ideological fellow travelers that happened to just get elected and are not able to accomplish much. This is an insider threat from within the Republican House and Senate caucuses that make up a majority of the GOP caucus in the House and between a third and half of the Republican caucus in the Senate.

These two insider threats are the answer to MisterMix’s question.

Open thread!

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