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You are here: Home / Foreign Affairs / War for Ukraine Day 348: Bakhmut and Vuhledar

War for Ukraine Day 348: Bakhmut and Vuhledar

by Adam L Silverman|  February 7, 20236:14 pm| 50 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

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Just a quick housekeeping note: I really appreciate those of you that post links to things I’ve either decided not to include in an update post or haven’t gotten too. What I would appreciate though is if you’d be so kind as to actually read through each update post first so we can avoid reposting material in the update post in comments.

Here is President Zelenskyy’s address from earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump:

Good health to you, fellow Ukrainians!

A report on this day – another day of our defense.

First. The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine has approved the new Head of the Security Service of Ukraine on my submission. I consider such a path to the appointment a signal to all government officials and employees of our law enforcement agencies.

Vasyl Malyuk has been the Acting Head of the Service for some time. He passed the test of war. He proved his effectiveness. He was appointed.

I am grateful to the people’s deputies of Ukraine for their positive vote on the candidacy of Ihor Klymenko for the post of Minister of Internal Affairs. It is important that the system of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, which is an element of the overall defense and security system, has quickly received a leader who has been defending our country since the first minutes of the full-scale invasion together with everyone else.

Now we have people who have gained experience in such a war. They have clear results in their work for the state that is fighting for its people and its independence. There should be more such people on posts of various levels in central and local government.

The relevant appointments have been approved by the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine. Dnipropetrovsk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regional administrations will be headed by specialists who have real experience in defending the state right now.

Today I met with the German Minister of Defense, who has arrived in Kyiv. The topic of our conversation is obvious. We are doing everything for our skies to be clear, for our warriors to have powerful tanks and for our artillery not to be inferior to that of the occupier. I thank Germany and all partners for the respective support.

Today, as usual, I held several meetings with the military and a meeting with the head of intelligence. We are paying maximum attention to what the occupiers are preparing. And to what our warriors need to effectively resist – in all directions.

The Donetsk region and the east, where the situation is the hottest – I mention them every day in such addresses.

The south sounds less often, although the strategic meaning of these directions is no less significant.

And we are strengthening the state along the entire perimeter.

And today I want to praise the warriors in two directions. Our border guards who are fighting in Donbas. For their daily bravery and resilience in battles. For the results. Luhansk and Kharkiv border guard detachments – I thank you guys!

I am thankful to all our defenders who defend the north of our country! Sumy, Chernihiv, Kyiv, Zhytomyr, Volyn. Operational and Strategic Group “North”.

Every direction matters. We are working on all enemy scenarios. We are defending the state.

Today I met with the ambassadors of our United24 charity platform – our athlete Elina Svitolina and French director Michel Hazanavicius.

Michel has joined the ambassadors and will help us with rebuilding.

This is our first United24 voice in France, and I believe it will be a powerful one.

I was pleased to hear that our state charity platform has already managed to accumulate almost $300 million from ordinary people and companies from over a hundred countries.

I spoke with President of Türkiye Erdoğan. I expressed my condolences. I told him about our steps to help the people of Türkiye pull through this ordeal.

Ukrainian rescuers have already left for Türkiye to bolster the rescue operation after the earthquakes. I hope they will be able to save as many lives as possible.

Thank you to everyone who saves lives! 

Thank you to everyone who fights for Ukraine!

Thank you to everyone who helps.

Glory to Ukraine!

 

 

Vuhledar, Donetsk Oblast, Ukrainian forces target a formation of Russian T-90S tanks, destroying at least two. pic.twitter.com/SoYG72vDr0

— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) February 7, 2023

Here is former NAVDEVGRU Squadron Leader Chuck Pfarrer’s most recent assessment of the situations in Kreminna and Vuhledar:

KREMINNA AXIS /2310 UTC 6 FEB/ RU forces resumed serial offensives & armed reconnaissance across the P-66 HWY. RU artillery fire missions are plotted inside central Kreminna– confirming that UKR forces have maintained contact within the urban area. pic.twitter.com/BXdxenmT70

— Chuck Pfarrer | Indications & Warnings | (@ChuckPfarrer) February 6, 2023

VUHLEDAR /0300 UTC 7 FEB/ RU offensive operations against Vuhledar frustrated. Ukrainian SOF mine approach vectors and Ukrainian UAVs direct precision strike munitions against advancing RU columns. © Indications & Warnings. Not for use by entities that solicit donations. pic.twitter.com/lQATkQsU9z

— Chuck Pfarrer | Indications & Warnings | (@ChuckPfarrer) February 7, 2023

Kharkiv:

Six explosions in Kharkiv. Air raid alert began after the first strikes. Massive attack with S-300 missiles.

— Maria Avdeeva (@maria_avdv) February 7, 2023

Touch not the cat bot a glove!

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Here's the joint statement on the Leopard 1 tanks: https://t.co/gKAI1l94K7

— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) February 7, 2023

Here’s the machine translation of the joint statement:

Defense Minister Pistorius and his counterparts from 🇩🇰 and 🇳🇱 are starting a joint initiative today to support the #Ukraine with refurbished #Leopard1 A5 main battle tanks from industrial stocks. More information 👇

From the German Ministry of Defense:

Federal government issues export license for Leopard 1 A5 tanks

Release date

07.02.2023

The Federal Government supports Ukraine in a European network and in close coordination with international partners by delivering Leopard 1 A5 battle tanks for legitimate self-defense against the Russian war of aggression that violates international law.

The federal government had already announced the political approval of this delivery last week. This was followed by the necessary formal approval steps.

The Federal Ministry for Economic Affairs and Climate Protection ( BMWK ), as the formally responsible approval authority, granted export permits to German armaments companies for up to 178 Leopard 1 A5 main battle tanks for Ukraine. How many Leopard 1 A5 battle tanks are actually delivered to Ukraine depends on the repair work required.

The financing and repair of the tanks as well as the training of Ukrainian armed forces take place in close coordination with European partner countries of the Federal Republic of Germany.

Oh Canada!

Photos from the arrival in Europe of the first Leopard 2A4 Canada is donating to Ukraine.

The donation of four Leopard 2A4 Main Battle Tanks will help Ukraine defend its sovereignty from Russian aggression. pic.twitter.com/jiej7YVtRh

— Canadian Army (@CanadianArmy) February 6, 2023

For you logistics and acquisitions fans out there, and you know who you are and we know who you are, The Financial Times has reporting on the ammunition supply chains:

Ukraine’s battle against Russia is consuming ammunition at unprecedented rates, with the country firing more than 5,000 artillery rounds every day — equal to a smaller European country’s orders in an entire year in peacetime.

The huge shift to a war footing is creating a supply chain crisis in Europe as defence manufacturers struggle to ramp up production to replenish national stockpiles as well as maintain supplies to Ukraine.

Almost a year since Russia’s invasion, the pace of demand for ammunition and explosives is turning into a test of Europe’s industrial production capacity in a race to rearm.

“It is a war about industrial capacity,” said Morten Brandtzæg, chief executive of Norway’s Nammo, which makes ammunition and shoulder-fired weapons.

He estimates Ukraine has been firing an estimated 5,000 to 6,000 artillery rounds a day, which he said is similar to the annual orders of a smaller European state before the war.

The pressure on producers has not been helped by lingering supply chain bottlenecks following the coronavirus pandemic, a lack of production capacity and a shortage of critical raw materials for some explosives, which is holding back efforts to increase output.

Some components are in such high demand, Brandtzæg said, that their delivery time had increased from months to years.

It has led to a rush to source materials, from chemicals for explosives to metals and plastics for fuses and artillery shell casings. Most companies have increased production shifts ahead of expected orders from national governments, and are hiring more people, another challenge since the start of the pandemic.

Yves Traissac, deputy chief executive at military explosives producer Eurenco, said the company was looking to increase production capacity to meet the higher demand from customers that include Germany’s Rheinmetall and Britain’s BAE Systems.

“We are currently managing a ramp-up to meet our customer demand. It is a challenge but we are working on that,” he said.

One particular challenge is sourcing nitric acid, which the company uses in small quantities to make explosives but which is also a key ingredient in the manufacture of fertiliser. With parts of Europe’s fertiliser production reduced because of the high cost of energy, the supply of nitric acid “has to be secured with our suppliers”, said Traissac. Eurenco, he added, was working to “have additional sources of critical raw materials”.

Rheinmetall, Germany’s largest defence contractor, announced last month that it would build a new explosives factory in Hungary in a joint venture with the government to address the shortage.

The explosives produced in the new plant will be used for artillery, tank, and mortar ammunition, among other things. The company has also restarted decommissioned ammunition production facilities, it told the Financial Times, and has “bought in large stocks of important materials”.

Mick Ord, chief executive of Britain’s Chemring, which supplies a range of explosives and propellants to defence contractors, said some customers had asked if it was possible to “increase output [of certain materials] by 100 to 200 per cent”.

According to Ord, a “lot of the post-pandemic supply chain challenges are starting to abate”.

Much more at the link!

The Guardian brings us a report of the ferality (feralness?) and barbarism of Russian forces in the Donbas:

Ukraine has released extraordinary video footage that appears to show Russian fighters dragging their badly wounded commander away from the battlefield, and then beating him violently with what appear to be shovels.

A Ukrainian drone captured the incident near the eastern city of Bakhmut, where intense fighting has been raging for months. Four soldiers from Russia’s Wagner mercenary group carry their colleague through a landscape of ruined houses, holding his arms and legs.

They then dump him next to a barn. A second video appears to show three men then hitting him repeatedly with shovels. The fate of the injured commander is unclear. But the episode tallies with persistent reports of low morale among Russian mercenary units.

Ukrainian soldiers fighting in and around Bakhmut have described how Wagner troops attack in waves. They are reportedly threatened with execution if they fail to advance and are mown down in large numbers, their corpses littering the frontlines.

A drone unit from the Seneka special platoon shot the footage earlier this week. It was released on Ukrainian social media channels on Monday.

According to the centre for defence strategies, a Kyiv thinktank, the Russian military command has recently changed its tactics in Bakhmut. Soldiers were now launching continuous and rolling assaults that sometimes lasted “for 10 hours”, it said.

Wagner detachments, together with troops from Russia’s 106th airborne division, were trying to storm Ukrainian positions on the northern outskirts. There was heavy fighting on the east of the city. In the south, Russian forces managed to advance 500 metres after a surprise attack, the thinktank reported.

Ukraine’s hold on Bakhmut appears increasingly precarious. Most analysis believe Ukrainian units will be forced to withdraw if Russian troops capture the T0504 highway – a key supply route – or break through to the Berkhiv reservoir.

The town has little strategic importance but enormous symbolic value, ahead of the first anniversary on 24 February of Vladimir Putin’s full-scale invasion of the country. Ukraine has massively fortified the nearby cities of Sloviansk and Kramatorsk, where the bulk of its eastern forces are concentrated.

Since then, however, Russia has regained the initiative. It has made slow but steady progress towards Putin’s goal of “liberating” the Donbas. That means gaining control of all of Donetsk province and the last remaining pockets of Luhansk oblast still in Ukrainian hands.

The head of the Wagner group, Yevgeny Prigozhin, has personally led a campaign to recruit criminals from Russian prisons to fight on the eastern frontline. He has claimed credit for Russian tactical gains in the region, including the capture last month of the Ukrainian town of Soledar, immediately north-east of Bakhmut.

A second prison tour to drum up additional soldiers has been less successful, as reports of the atrocious casualty rate in Ukraine filter back to Russia. Ukraine’s parliament and the US have designed Wagner an international criminal organisation.

More at the link!

Speaking of Wagner, Newsweek – yes, I know… – about Wagner and Prigozhin’s status in how Putin and the Kremlin are racking and stacking their assets:

The 61-year-old Russian businessman, who earned the nickname “Putin’s chef” through his catering contracts with the Kremlin, has given himself credit for the January capture of Soledar. The small salt-mining town Ukraine’s eastern Donetsk region was Russia’s first battlefield gain in Ukraine since the summer of 2022.

Now, however, months after declaring himself as the mastermind behind the notorious paramilitary outfit the Wagner Group, Prigozhin seems to be losing his influence in the war. As his appetite has grown in the political sphere, cracks are beginning to show in his relationship with the Kremlin.

Rifts over battlefield failures in Ukraine are becoming increasingly frequent. He has also been lauding his fighters as the most effective units in the war despite their failure to make significant advances in the embattled city of Bakhmut, into which he has poured his fighters—largely Russian convicts—for the past six months.

The Wagner Group, which has been heavily involved in the current fighting in Ukraine and assisted the Russian military in the annexation of Crimea in 2014, now seems to be playing a less prominent role in operations around Bakhmut. Putin is gradually replacing Wagner fighters, favoring instead professional military personnel and government officials.

In doing so, the Kremlin appears to be sending a very public message to Prigozhin—that the Russian defense ministry is running the conflict and can finish the war without him.

Ever since Prigozhin stepped out of the shadows in September 2022, his potential political ambitions have been the topic of intense speculation.

Prigozhin, who was born in St. Petersburg and who himself served years behind bars, quickly made a name for himself in the war after he was seen in a leaked video recruiting soldiers from Russia’s extensive penitentiary system, amid reports that the country was facing personnel shortages in Ukraine.

For months he has been spearheading a recruitment drive, offering male prisoners commuted sentences and cash incentives in return for six months of military service in Ukraine. To do this, he has had to push Putin to secretly pardon convicts recruited to fight in Ukraine.

Joana de Deus Pereira, senior research fellow at the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI), a British think tank, said that at the beginning of the war, a largely commercial relationship existed between the Kremlin and Wagner Group. The paramilitary outfit was initially seen as a “very useful tool” and as “an instrument of war,” she said.

When Prigozhin finally admitted he was the financial sponsor of the Wagner Group, “in his speech, you can see a clear building of a political character,” she told Newsweek.

“Now, Prigozhin has become much more dangerous in terms of the political persona he wants to be,” she said.

The relationship between Prigozhin and the Kremlin began to disintegrate when the businessman began presenting himself as both a military solution for the conflict and a political solution.

There has been a “crescendo” of publicity since he announced himself to be the founder of the Wagner Group, she said.

“He sees himself as a defense minister or someone with a high profile inside the Kremlin, at least visible and respectful enough to be rewarded for what he has been doing for the country.”

Vlad Mykhnenko, an expert in the post-communist transformation of Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union at the University of Oxford, said Prigozhin seems to have decided that he needs a bigger public role in Russia.

“He is not satisfied anymore with just being a shadowy private sector contractor. He looks like he wants something more, a more serious official public kind of job,” Mykhnenko told Newsweek.

The Wagner Group is now losing its power “because the Kremlin wants also to show that they are the ones in charge,” said de Deus Pereira from RUSI.

Prigozhin, she said, is “moved by national pride and money.”

“He wants to be recognized for his feats, but if he said he has political aspirations, that moment he would be killed. He desperately wants to be seen as a hero—once he is, he has Russian public opinion validation. So he needs to become not only a tool of war, but the hero,” she added.

After Soledar’s capture, Prigozhin released a video praising his fighters as “probably the most experienced army in the world today.”

Tensions mounted when Putin attributed success in Soledar to his defense ministry, making no mention of the Wagner Group. Prigozhin accused the ministry of attempting to downplay the Wagner Group’s role in the capture of Soledar, and of belittling its achievements.

Shortly before he claimed to have captured Soledar, he released a video on his Telegram channel, purportedly taken in the town’s network of salt mines, caves and 125 miles of tunnels. According to de Deus Pereira, this was Prigozhin’s boldest move yet in displaying his political ambitions.

“Looking at symbology, everything that Prigozhin does has meaning. He had a package of salt and paid with salt someone inside a car. He was basically saying we not only control the mines but we also control the villagers and the citizens of Soledar,” she said.

“This was a clear message—not only that they control the field, but they also control the people. He wanted to convey this message to his Russian counterparts.”

Prigozhin’s objective, she said, is to capitalize on his participation in the war and to become a central figure in Russian politics.

Mykhnenko said he believes Prigozhin used Soledar to save his image amid the Wagner Group’s setbacks in Bakhmut.

“He used Soledar as a decoy, it was a smaller price, and declared this massive victory understanding that Bakhmut probably will be and is beyond reach,” he said.

Much more at the link!

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  1. 1.

    sanjeevs

    February 7, 2023 at 6:39 pm

    Rheinmetall, Germany’s largest defence contractor, announced last month that it would build a new explosives factory in Hungary

    Hungary? Seriously?

  2. 2.

    Alison Rose

    February 7, 2023 at 6:44 pm

    Never thought I’d be so giddy about tanks, but here we are. HUZZAH FOR TANKS!

    Ukraine has released extraordinary video footage that appears to show Russian fighters dragging their badly wounded commander away from the battlefield, and then beating him violently with what appear to be shovels.

    And this is why we call them orcs. They’re barely human. Is this their method of euthanasia?

    Ukrainian grannies continue to be the most bad-ass grannies: “This 102-year-old Ukrainian survived Stalin’s forced famine. Now she is making camouflage sniper suits.”

    Thank you as always, Adam.

  3. 3.

    Old School

    February 7, 2023 at 6:52 pm

    I guess you need to buy two posters as the autographs appear to be on the back.

  4. 4.

    Gin & Tonic

    February 7, 2023 at 7:10 pm

    Adam, perhaps minor point, but you misspell it often – the town is Vuhledar. The root word is “vuhil” (вугіль), Ukrainian for coal.

  5. 5.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 7, 2023 at 7:14 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Fat fingered typos. I know I usually reverse the h and l and try to make sure I fix it. Which I did in the actual text of the update. Give me a minute and I’ll fix it in the title.

  6. 6.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 7, 2023 at 7:21 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Should be fixed now.

  7. 7.

    Gin & Tonic

    February 7, 2023 at 7:38 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Thanks. I understand that’s not necessarily an intuitive letter sequence for those used to typing in English.

  8. 8.

    Freemark

    February 7, 2023 at 7:39 pm

    People keep talking about how Russia has gained the initiative but I don’t see it. Moving front lines a few hundred meters with 20,000 deaths isn’t gaining initiative. It seems more like Ukraine is using a rope-a-dope strategy. Russia is using up its men and machines in mud season to get a few yards while Ukraine seems to be conserving their reserves. We won’t know who really has the initiative until probably May. I’m betting on the Ukrainians.

  9. 9.

    Alison Rose

    February 7, 2023 at 7:49 pm

    @Freemark: Well, according to some dickhead on the NYT op-ed page (their natural habitat), the main reason the war is continuing is because the US wants it to and is sending all these weapons! Ukraine and russia would totally negotiate but we’re in the way!

    But the Biden strategy has a bad name: escalation. Beyond a certain point, the United States is no longer “helping” or “advising” or “supplying” the Ukrainians, the way it did, say, the Afghan mujahedeen during the Cold War. It is replacing Ukraine as Russia’s main battlefield adversary. It is hard to say when that point will be reached or whether it has been already. With whom is Russia at war — Ukraine or the United States? Russia started the war between Russia and Ukraine. Who started the war between Russia and the United States?

    I do not want to know how much someone gets paid to burble garbage like this at the supposed paper of record

    ETA I mean really what even the hell:

    The Russian invasion of Ukraine has to do with a complicated set of post-Cold War historical trends (like America’s striking post-Cold War rise and its more recent relative decline) and economic accidents (like the vicissitudes of fossil fuel prices). But it is also the latest chapter of an ongoing geostrategic story in which the plot has changed little over the centuries: The largest country by area on the planet has no reliable exit into the world. The most reliable route runs through the Black Sea, where it crosses the trade routes that link the civilizations of Asia to the civilizations of Europe. There, or thereabouts, Russian forces clashed with the armies of many Turkish sultans in the 17th and 18th centuries, Lord Palmerston of Britain in the 19th and Hitler in the 20th.

  10. 10.

    dmsilev

    February 7, 2023 at 7:57 pm

    @Alison Rose: Even by NYT op-ed standards, that’s an absurdly stupid argument. The only way that the US would be “replacing” the Ukrainians as a battlefield adversary to the Russians would be if we …replaced the Ukrainians on the battlefield, which is to say if we were to actually send US troops to join the battle. Which, needless to say, hasn’t happened and is vanishingly unlikely to happen anytime soon. We are supporting and supplying the Ukrainians, but they’re the ones doing the fighting and bleeding.

  11. 11.

    zhena gogolia

    February 7, 2023 at 8:00 pm

    @Alison Rose: oh Gawd who is that fuckwit?

  12. 12.

    Another Scott

    February 7, 2023 at 8:01 pm

    ICYMI, the Navy has released 6 photos of balloon debris recovery operations.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  13. 13.

    Alison Rose

    February 7, 2023 at 8:04 pm

    @zhena gogolia: His name is Christopher Caldwell, and he apparently wrote a book about “Islam and the West” which I will most definitely never ever read.

    Another gem from his essay:

    Many Americans cannot resist describing Mr. Putin as a “barbarian” and his invasion of Ukraine as a “war of aggression.” For their part Russians say this is a war in which Russia is fighting for its survival and against the United States in an unfair global order in which the United States enjoys unearned privileges.

    Like, my dude, I’m sure if you just ask real nice, putin will happily let you lick his boots.

  14. 14.

    zhena gogolia

    February 7, 2023 at 8:04 pm

    It’s not our fucking problem that Russia has no path to the world. Become a decent noninsane country that renounces imperialism and it won’t be a problem any more. Guess that’s too much to ask. Fuck I’m so sick of Putler and his many spokesmodels

  15. 15.

    zhena gogolia

    February 7, 2023 at 8:05 pm

    @Alison Rose: oh gawd almighty

  16. 16.

    charon

    February 7, 2023 at 8:05 pm

    @Alison Rose:

    Does “some dickhead” have a name, don’t keep us in suspense.

  17. 17.

    Bex

    February 7, 2023 at 8:05 pm

    @Alison Rose: My wish is that the war will be over by August 8, 2023 when Madame Yarosh turns 103, and that we can somehow send her a birthday present.

  18. 18.

    Alison Rose

    February 7, 2023 at 8:06 pm

    @zhena gogolia: I know, right? I was like, what in the stratospheric fuck is this.

  19. 19.

    zhena gogolia

    February 7, 2023 at 8:06 pm

    @Alison Rose: yeah I can’t fucking resist calling Putler a barbarian. That’s what he fucking is

  20. 20.

    Alison Rose

    February 7, 2023 at 8:06 pm

    @charon: Haha, see my later comment – Christopher Caldwell.

  21. 21.

    zhena gogolia

    February 7, 2023 at 8:08 pm

    @Alison Rose: oh he was an English major at Harvard. Wow I stand corrected he has great credentials

  22. 22.

    Alison Rose

    February 7, 2023 at 8:09 pm

    @zhena gogolia: “Many Americans can’t resist calling the long, orange root vegetables ‘carrots’ and the places where they grow ‘vegetable gardens’. For their part, most carrots don’t have any thoughts about fuck all, because they are carrots.”

  23. 23.

    Martin

    February 7, 2023 at 8:09 pm

    @Alison Rose: Honestly, I don’t for one second blame the soldiers on this one. Extra points for the shovels. Shovels are underrated as an improvised weapon.

  24. 24.

    zhena gogolia

    February 7, 2023 at 8:11 pm

    @Alison Rose: I guess this piece is going to appear in the paper paper tomorrow. I’ll have to light a bonfire

  25. 25.

    Martin

    February 7, 2023 at 8:16 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Russia has plenty of paths to the world. This isn’t the 11th century dragging some donkey to Constantinople. Russia has Black Sea ports, ports into the Baltic, the Barents, The Bearing, the Sea of Japan. They have planes. They have rail lines into China and Europe (or would if they’d stop being dicks).

    Sometimes the NYT acts like a social media site where there’s no editorial control whatsoever.

  26. 26.

    Mallard Filmore

    February 7, 2023 at 8:21 pm

    @Martin:

    Extra points for the shovels. Shovels are underrated as an improvised weapon.

    A few decades ago, I read that entrenching tools were even preferred over actual weapons for close combat.

  27. 27.

    zhena gogolia

    February 7, 2023 at 8:24 pm

    @Martin: oh there’s editorial control, all right. They know exactly what they’re doing

  28. 28.

    Kent

    February 7, 2023 at 8:25 pm

    @Alison Rose: Googled him.  He is from the Claremont Institute, the same institution that gave us John Eastman and the 1-6 insurrection.  Oh, and get this.  He argued that the Civil Rights Movement was incompatible with the Constitution.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Caldwell_(journalist

    Apparently that place needs to be shut down until we figure out what the fuck is going on.

  29. 29.

    Alison Rose

    February 7, 2023 at 8:30 pm

    @Kent: Well, he sure seems like a real peach.

  30. 30.

    sanjeevs

    February 7, 2023 at 8:37 pm

    @Alison Rose: Think I need a shower after reading that piece.

  31. 31.

    Bill Arnold

    February 7, 2023 at 8:38 pm

    Gah. What a mash of shit arguments from Mr. Christopher Caldwell. E.g. he seems to be implying that US is supplying cell phone signal intercepts with location information to Ukrainians. This is a common assertion among certain sorts, but it needs evidence; Ukraine is fairly competent with information and communications technologies, it’s their country and infrastructure, and they also have human observers(partisans, SOF) in occupied areas. Also, GPS selective availability (position accuracy degradation for civilian receivers) was turned off in May 2000.

    Many Americans cannot resist describing Mr. Putin as a “barbarian” and his invasion of Ukraine as a “war of aggression.”

    Alison Rose already covered this well, but, piling on:
    We refer to the current Russian invasion of Ukraine as a genocidal invasion. With copious justification, in the daily output of Russian propagandists, and in statements by some Russian government officials, and in actions like “filtration” in Russian occupied areas and mass Russian theft of Ukrainian children.

  32. 32.

    YY_Sima Qian

    February 7, 2023 at 8:45 pm

    @Kent: The NYT giving someone from the Claremont Institute visibility…

  33. 33.

    Jay

    February 7, 2023 at 8:54 pm

    @Bill Arnold:

    early on in the 2nd Invasion, the Rucists targeted certain aspects of the Ukrainian communications infrastructure.

    Very quickly, they learned that their encrypted comms didn’t work as they destroyed the aspects of the comms network their systems used,

    so, with little other choice, (Dimitri had a great intercept translated about Russian “jamming”. Apparently the ECM “boys” don’t care if they are jamming Russian comms as well, they just brute force jam everything in range.)

    many of the Russian’s rely on unprotected Ukrainian cell phone service for comms, talk in the “open” and get triangulated from towers.

  34. 34.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 7, 2023 at 8:55 pm

    @Freemark: @Alison Rose: @dmsilev: @zhena gogolia: The problem is, eight years after the initial invasion and almost a year after the re-invasion, far too many elected officials, reporters, and commentators are still using the framing that Russia seeded into the information environment. Ukraine’s counter-influence operations are excellent, now. But for a lot of the eight years between the invasion and re-invasion they weren’t even close to the level they’re at now. Until or unless someone knocks Russia off of having the information advantage and information dominance, what you’re observing, what we’re all experiencing will continue.

  35. 35.

    Alison Rose

    February 7, 2023 at 9:02 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Indeed. And it’s aggravating as hell.

  36. 36.

    YY_Sima Qian

    February 7, 2023 at 9:17 pm

    I mean certainly one can & should examine the role the US/the EU/NATO’s policies & actions wrt to Russia in the 90s, & the contribution of these actions & policies toward the souring of relations w/ Russia at the end of Yeltsin’s tenure, toward the start of Russia’s pivot toward China circa 1999 – 2004, & toward making someone like Putin to desirable to the Russian elites & public.

    However, Putin was undeterrable (by threats of punishment or reassurances of accommodation) from launching his unprovoked invasion of Ukraine. He has waged war w/o regard for civilians, committed crimes against humanity & carried out genocidal policies in occupied territories, & weaponized global food supplies. It is horrific to consider what would have done should he achieve his maximalist objectives. He has shown zero signs of willing to negotiate an end to the fighting.

    The kind of people the NYT puts on its Op-Ed pages!

  37. 37.

    Tony G

    February 7, 2023 at 9:24 pm

    @Alison Rose: Oh, Christ. Christopher Caldwell again.  The f***ing New York Times pulls him out a crypt from time to time to enlightening their readers with his wisdom.  He wrote a book a couple of years ago that apparently argues the point that the culture of the United States has been going downhill ever since the civil rights movement upset the natural order to things.  It is certainly surprising to see that white supremacists like Caldwell (and Tuckie) are big fan-boys of Putin.  The goddamn New York Times, giving that guy a platform.

  38. 38.

    Tony G

    February 7, 2023 at 9:25 pm

    @Tony G: Caldwell is apparently a Harvard alumnus.   Maybe time to shut that place down.

  39. 39.

    Tony G

    February 7, 2023 at 9:27 pm

    @YY_Sima Qian: I’ve been reading the New York Times since the days of the Pentagon Papers 52 years ago.  It used to be a pretty good newspaper — a half century ago.

  40. 40.

    Jay

    February 7, 2023 at 9:51 pm

    On leave.📷 Khrystyna Bondarenko pic.twitter.com/J37SHoO7Qp— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) February 7, 2023

  41. 41.

    Carlo Graziani

    February 7, 2023 at 10:46 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: There’s also the problem that any analysis of the international strategic context of the war that is framed in ostensibly neutral “realist” terms automatically receives a grave, attentive audience, even when it is obviously absurd.

    It’s the grand strategy version of what Paul Krugman used to refer to as the “Very Serious People” problem, wherein any chin-stroking intellectual lightweight who pronounced the federal budget deficit a mortal threat to the economy, justifying any and all austerity measures, in the face of all econometric and macro theory evidence to the contrary, automatically earned rapt audience among economically illiterate journalists. The war Realists are the new VSPs.

  42. 42.

    YY_Sima Qian

    February 7, 2023 at 11:25 pm

    @Carlo Graziani: I would not even dignify Caldwell as being a Realist.

  43. 43.

    the pale scot @ gmail

    February 8, 2023 at 12:14 am

    OT

    Biden clotheslines the GQP

  44. 44.

    Chetan Murthy

    February 8, 2023 at 12:45 am

    @Carlo Graziani: I continue to be mystified that all the “realists” aren’t baying like wolves for the West to take Russia part down to the studs. It’s no longer a superpower, barely a regional power, and a “realist” worth his salt should be slavering at the possibilities for conquest and resource acquisition.

    Instead they’re all-in on mollycoddling this dying empire, doing everything they can to preserve it despite its own best efforts to commit suicide.

  45. 45.

    Carlo Graziani

    February 8, 2023 at 1:39 am

    @Chetan Murthy: Realist-style analysis, which is what Caldwell couches his argument in (pace, @YY_Sima Qian) is largely framed by near-eternal, adiabatically changing security interests of great powers, understood in terms of economic/geographic/historical power factors. It’s about resolving conflict through relatively small adjustments in those factors. Practitioners are allergic to the notion of large, uncontrolled crises leading to sudden tectonic shifts of the balance of power between great powers. And they are implacably hostile to the idea that there might not exist a common understanding of what constitutes each power’s security interests, because that would undermine the very possibility of conflict resolution through negotiation towards a mutually-agreed new equilibrium.

    So the Russia-Ukraine conflict, and its embedding context of the Russia-versus-the-West conflict, are pretty much tailor-made to draw foolish misunderstandings from realists. There is no possible basis for common understanding of mutual security needs—Russia and Putin behave as if an undiminished, unchastened democratic West constitutes an existential threat to Russia, and have acted accordingly for a number of years. The West, on the other hand, has no incentive whatever to rescue the Russians from the debilitating catastrophic error that they committed themselves to in February 2022, any more than Carter and Reagan had to help the Soviets extricate themselves from the calamity that was their invasion of Afghanistan. Letting Russia recover only invites more transgressions.

    There’s no explaining this to a person trapped in the realist intellectual framework. They are beguiled by their delusions of rationality, and unwillingness to see irreconcilable conflict even where it is in plain sight.

  46. 46.

    Chetan Murthy

    February 8, 2023 at 1:56 am

    @Carlo Graziani:

    largely framed by near-eternal, adiabatically changing security interests of great powers, understood in terms of economic/geographic/historical power factors. It’s about resolving conflict through relatively small adjustments in those factors. Practitioners are allergic to the notion of large, uncontrolled crises leading to sudden tectonic shifts of the balance of power between great powers.

    I’m reminded of Keynes:

    But this long run is a misleading guide to current affairs. In the long run we are all dead. Economists set themselves too easy, too useless a task if in tempestuous seasons they can only tell us that when the storm is long past the ocean is flat again.

    That sort of analysis is useless.  Empires collapse; new powers arise.  If all they can tell us about is equilibrium periods, then they’re useless, b/c *war* is not about equilibrium: war is about change.

  47. 47.

    Geminid

    February 8, 2023 at 6:56 am

    I saw a report that President Zelenskyy flew to Great Britain this morning, and will meet with PM Sunak and other British officials.

  48. 48.

    Anyway

    February 8, 2023 at 7:58 am

    @Tony G:

    Caldwell is apparently a Harvard alumnus.   Maybe time to shut that place down.

    I’d start with shutting down the Clermont Institute – it’s a hotbed of reactionaries looking to inject their dangerous dogma into the discourse. Wonder who’s their sugar daddy — there are so many RW  billionaires funding all kinds of crazies.

  49. 49.

    Anyway

    February 8, 2023 at 8:14 am

    @Anyway:

    I’d start with shutting down the Clermont Institute – it’s a hotbed of reactionaries looking to inject their dangerous dogma into the discourse. Wonder who’s their sugar daddy — there are so many RW  billionaires funding all kinds of crazies.

    Didn’t get to it in time — Claremont institute

  50. 50.

    Bill Arnold

    February 8, 2023 at 3:23 pm

    In case Adam thinks this is too goofy to properly front-page:

    A truly historic moment as ⁦@ZelenskyyUa, riding a Giant Military Cat,
    ⁩ addresses Westminster Hall. pic.twitter.com/ejFzAJJmgE
    — Giant Military Cats (@giantcat9) February 8, 2023

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