Perfect fall day in Harbor Springs, Michigan. Thanks to the folks at @Pond_Hill_Farm for having me. pic.twitter.com/sYAQAUrDBA
— Tim Walz (@Tim_Walz) September 30, 2024
I’ve checked all the usual sources, and it looks like my best decision of the week to date might well have been taking a nap instead of watching the vice-presidential debate. Our guy did his best, their guy tap-danced for an audience of cultists, and no minds were changed. (Although there may, of course, be a backdraft yet to come.) To save time, here’s a report from the Washington Post — “Vance, Walz square off in what could be final meeting of presidential campaigns”: [gift link]
… In marked contrast to the September presidential clash between former president Donald Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris — who hardly concealed their disgust with each other — the running mates often went out of their way to be gracious, while focusing more on policy differences than personal slights.
They offered praise, sympathized and acknowledged that they agreed on how to address some of the country’s most vexing and divisive issues. At the same time, neither man shied away from the dirty work they had to do for their campaigns.
Vance referred to “our Democratic friends” even as he suggested that Harris had “enabled the Mexican drug cartels to operate freely in this country” and set the stage for the global instability that has sparked a widening war in the Middle East…
Walz turned from the first question about the Middle East to argue that the nation doesn’t need “a nearly 80-year-old Donald Trump talking about crowd sizes” to solve the situation. He quoted Trump’s recent dismissal of the traumatic brain injuries sustained by U.S. troops during his presidency as “headaches.” And he chided Trump for conducting diplomacy on Twitter and for not paying federal taxes.
Walz followed up by criticizing Vance for repeating unsubstantiated claims that immigrants in the senator’s home state had been eating the pets of their neighbors, a claim that local officials say lacks evidence. He also said Trump had helped to scuttle a bill that would have solved the immigration problem, because he wanted to run on immigration reform…
In one of the sharpest exchanges of the debate, Walz directly asked Vance whether Trump had lost the 2020 election, a fact the former president has refused to admit.
“Tim, I am focused on the future,” Vance deflected.
“That is damning,” Walz said. “That is a damning non-answer.”…
One of the only other truly contentious moments in the debate came when one of the moderators, Margaret Brennan, pointed out that the Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, falsely accused of eating pets are there legally under a Biden administration program. Vance objected.
“The rules were you weren’t going to fact check,” Vance responded, before speaking out of turn to argue that the Biden administration’s policy was not proper. After repeated requests that the debaters stop speaking out of turn, the moderators cut the microphones of the candidates and changed topics…
More importantly, IMO, Vance’s boss is not doing well. Also from the Washington Post, “Trump mixes up words, swerves among subjects in off-topic speech”:
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