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The line between political reporting and fan fiction continues to blur.

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Thursday Late Night Open Thread

by WaterGirl|  July 25, 202410:30 pm| 218 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics

It’s getting late, and nothing else is going on in the back room.
So here are some greatest hits from this week and a couple of new things, too.

Definitely been a long month this week.  Heading to bed.

In case you missed it, here’s what is possibly the most gracious note, ever.

Also in case you missed it this morning.  Well done, Marsh Family!

Didn’t like the way this @JDVance1 bloke (newly picked as #Trump‘s running mate) slagged off the UK lately. Looked into him. Not great. Made a parody song inspired by @ABBA called “Vance VP” 🎶

Shout out #americast (@BBCsarahsmith/@awzurcher) & @RestIsPolitics for ℹ️ profiles 👍 pic.twitter.com/OLjGJ4haOZ

— MarshFamilySongs (@MarshSongs) July 20, 2024

Apologies for the photo of the orange guy, but I liked the meme.  h/t Subaru Diane

I’m sorry, Jackie, I couldn’t help myself.

Let’s close out the evening to the smooth sounds of Marvin Gaye… pic.twitter.com/0qlsYC1bmM

— Jack E. Smith ⚖️ (@7Veritas4) July 25, 2024

I’ll try to be better tomorrow.

This veteran honoring President Biden’s selfless sacrifice for the good of our country pulls at the heart and makes me proud to be an American. 🙌 pic.twitter.com/kZCrWrWRhK

— Bill Madden (@maddenifico) July 24, 2024

Open thread.

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War for Ukraine Day 883: Air Raid Alert for All of Ukraine Went Up an Hour Ago!!!

by Adam L Silverman|  July 25, 20248:21 pm| 11 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

Painting by NEIVANMADE. It has a white background an in the center are Soldiers in green doing air defense by firing at incoming Russian missiles in the upper right. The missiles are red and yellow. In the upper left, written in green, is the text: "SAVE THE BRAVEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD!" Below the Soldiers, also written in green, is "SUPPORT FOR KHARKIV"

(Image by NEIVANMADE)

Quick housekeeping note: Rosie is still doing excellently three days out from her chemo treatment last Monday. Thank you all, again, for the good thoughts, well wishes, prayers, and donations.

A little over an hour ago, Ukrainian authorities raised the air raid alerts for the entire country. Which meant Russian air force is in the air in western Russia and missiles were likely inbound.

⚡️Aerial alert in effect throughout Ukraine.

A nationwide aerial alert is in effect for all regions of Ukraine, the Air Force announced shortly after midnight on July 26.

The Air Force warned of missile threats throughout the country, including the far-western regions.

— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) July 25, 2024

I’m looking at the air raid alert maps right now (7:03 PM EDT/2:03 AM local in Ukraine) and the alerts are only for north central and eastern Ukraine. There are also no indicators on the map that Russian aviation is up. I’ll keep an eye out.

We have more on the Russian drones that came down in Romania.

“Russia launched 38 Shahed kamikaze drones at Ukraine overnight, three of which strayed into Romania’s airspace, Romanian and Ukrainian ministries have confirmed.” https://t.co/IEbwIyhszc

— Shashank Joshi (@shashj) July 25, 2024

Politico EU has the details:

Russia launched 38 Shahed kamikaze drones at Ukraine overnight, three of which strayed into Romania’s airspace, Romanian and Ukrainian ministries have confirmed.

Ukraine’s air-defense systems managed to shoot down 25 of the drones, the Ukrainian air force said in a statement on Thursday. Three of the Shaheds crossed the border with Romania, bordering Ukraine’s Odesa region, which was heavily bombed overnight, the air force said.

“More heinous attacks have been perpetrated by Russia against Ukrainian civilian infrastructure,” Romanian Foreign Minister Luminiţa Odobescu said in a post on X. “Debris has been found on Romanian territory. We have informed and are coordinating with our Allies on this matter. Romania strongly condemns these irresponsible actions,” Odobescu said.

As the Russian drones were attacking ports in the Odesa region, residents of Romania’s Tulcea area heard multiple blasts and were warned by authorities that fragments of drones might fall to the ground, local media reported. The authorities asked the public not to panic, saying the Russian drones “were not specifically targeting Romania.”

Two Finnish Air Force F-18 jets were dispatched from a Romanian air base during the night to monitor the situation, Romania’s defense ministry said in a statement on Thursday.

“Teams of the Ministry of National Defense are currently conducting investigations in the field, to search for possible objects that fell on the national territory, as a result of the attacks conducted on the Ukrainian port infrastructure over the last two nights,” the statement said.

After the attack the previous night, the Romanian Intelligence Service and the Ministry of Internal Affairs found the remains of a Geran-type drone of Russian origin in the vicinity of Plauru in Tulcea.

“Search will continue today to cover the entire area. We make it clear that all the locations identified as possible areas of incidence are outside the inhabited areas, not affecting the infrastructure element,” the defense ministry said.

Here is President Zelenskyy’s address from earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

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Thursday Evening Open Thread

by John Cole|  July 25, 20247:42 pm| 358 Comments

This post is in: John Cole Presents "This Fucking Old House"

I have a lot of thoughts, so strap in. This is gonna be a long one. Since Harris is now the nominee I had some time today while sitting under the willow and while I was driving places running errands to think about things without interference, and a couple of things occurred to me. Also, I took a half an edible about forty minutes ago so your guess is as good as mine where this post goes.

My first thought is that one of the perks of having Kamala on the ticket is youth related, but not in the way you probably are thinking in regards to the youth vote bump she is getting. That’s obviously a great thing just from a voting standpoint and turnout but just general excitement, memes, and energy. But the other youth related bonus to Kamala is that she is only 59 and as such, the vast majority of her political career comes after the 1994 Proposition 187 in California, the ballot initiative championed at the time by Republican Governor Pete Wilson.

Just a bit of history although all the majority of you are my age and older, but California used to be a red and then purple state. After prop 187, Republican support just bottomed out. In 1988 the first Bush was the LAST Republican to win the Presidency. Clinton won by slim margins in 1992 and 96, and since then the EAR/ONS/Golden State Killer has as much chance as getting elected on a statewide ticket there.

What does this mean? It means that since Harris has been in politics, she has been dealing with the lunatic wing of the GOP since day one. The Republican Party has crystallized down to it’s distilled wingnut essence, and every Republican of some stature there has been nuttier than a fruitcake. B1 Bob Dornan, Duncan Hunter and his shitty spawn, etc. Absolute nutters.

That means at no time in her political career has she ever experienced a sane Republican party- she has no memory of the golden ages when Reagan would have drinks with Tip O’Neill and Orrin Hatch and Ted Kennedy were buddies and all that bullshit that made Tim Russert and Chris Matthews moist in the loins. Bipartisanship and a sense of camaraderie and being friends with the opposition have never existed in her world. Republicans have only ever been awful and an impediment to progress. In other words, we finally have a candidate whose internal monologue is the same as ours when Republicans speak- “Get fucked, maniac.”

This is undeniably a good thing. Maybe one day in fifty years we can have bipartisanship again. But not fucking now.

***

A second thing I am seeing that I really like and really gets me excited is something Mistermix alluded to earlier:

Straight Into My Veins God Damn!

The use of the word “weird.” This is not a coincidence, as I saw Tim Walz saying the same thing:

This is such an effective line of attack and is just electoral poison. It’s a brilliant way to define these guys in the eyes of voters, and it has the bonuses of being true, something low information voters can agree with, something is easy to say, and it is versatile because there are so many weird things about these fucking guys and it’s something you can say to Trump supporters without having them descend into whataboutism with your beliefs.

“You voting for Trump?”

No, he’s so weird. All that face makeup and the ridiculous orange hair. Just a weird dude.”

He’s been so normalized by the media that people forget how fucking weird he is. He buried his former wife in a golf course without a gravestone. He pervs on his daughter. He’s always babbling on about Hannibal Lector. He drinks all those diet cokes. He keeps praising dictators. He rambles on about the strangest shit. He only eats McDonalds. He likes steak well done and with ketchup. These are all really fucking weird things.

So yeah, maybe it took a younger candidate with a much younger comms and social media team to do what the rest of us missed. And it works on Vance, too, as hillbilly twitter and Appalachians like Beshear all continue to otherize Vance. What they are doing is basically the same thing Kendrick Lamar did to Drake this year with Euphoria, Meet the Grahams, and Not Like us.

***

A third thing I have observed is really a quite positive development. It has seemed that for at least fifteen years the Republicans have had a factory running non-stop to churn out douchebags to run and every time some loser like Tom DeLay leaves the scene they puke up a Howley or Tom Cotton. Just a seemingly endless back bench of dickheads, maniacs, and losers. I mean there have been so many young Republican scumbags churned out by this factory that many of them in the last 8-10 years have risen through the ranks, got elected, and then promptly got convicted or embroiled in a scandal and flamed out. And then for the same time period, you pan the camera to the Democratic side and it looks like a scene from the Russian politburo circa 1985. Just one 70-80 year old after another. Oh look, it’s Chernenko. Oh look, Breshnev. Oh look, Andropov. And on and on and on.

But I’ve spent the last few days thinking about VP choices, and it hit me- “Wow, we have a lot of fucking talent.” I mean we have a REALLY deep bench of governors and young elected folks out there who would all, in their own right, make great Presidents. Whitmer, Cooper, Beshear, Waltz and on and on and on. We have a lot of fucking talent. And we need to keep cultivating and growing that talent by winning statewide elections in all 50 states. We have some real starts in the larval phase with folks like Max Frost, and then you have AOC, who I would like to remind you I was an early adopter and donated to her first race because she is going places, and she is, as Mistermix noted a while back, going places. I could conceivably, if I keep going to the gym, live long enough to see her become speaker or make a run for President. Or Senate.

It’s really an embarrassment of riches and bodes well for the future. It’s reason to be positive.

***

A minor housekeeping detail. We have not really updated the commenting policy in a long, long time, and I think we need to add a statement that makes clear that there are some things we just will not accept and there is no need for timeouts and “what not just get the fuck out of here goodbye don’t let the door hit you in the ass how can I miss you when you won’t go away.”

I’m personally thinking about three things motivating this. One is the inevitable tsunami of racism that is about to start up now that we have a black candidate. The second and third stems from the current war in Gaza. I’m simply not going to put up with any dehumanizing bullshit about Palestinians or conflating Palestinians with Hamas and I am not going to deal with even whiffs of anti-Semitism. And don’t think I am saying any criticism of Israel is off the books, because Fuck Netanyahu and fuck the monsters in his coalition for the way they are prosecuting this war.

At the same time, I’m not a fucking idiot. Well actually I am on a lot of things, but on this, I am not. You’re not getting a timeout for going into a post on the Russia/Ukraine war talking about… Russia and Ukraine, and start saying shit to the openly Jewish writer about them not caring about “zionist bio warfare” or other bullshit. You’re not fooling anyone. It’s not just a weird coincidence that you just so happened to start this off topic bullshit in the Jewish guy’s post.. I see what you are doing. We all see what you are doing. You’re out of here.

I’ve already lost one person I cared about deeply who left the blog and who I would do anything to get back, I’m not losing another. So we’re going to make changes.

As always is the case, my ideas only come into fruition after Watergirl puts in the leg work, and she is writing up a draft policy with the change and all the front pagers will weigh in on it before we implement it. Thank you for understanding why this change is necessary, or I suppose if you don’t understand why it is necessary, guess what- we’re making the change any way.

***

A fraternity brother called the other day and said he was working in Ohio (he travels for work overseeing construction and production of pharmaceutical labs) and that he was going to swing by and that morphed into him coming for a couple of days, which is fine, but I had to do a rush three hour “I can’t let people know I live like this” clean and scrub the bathroom and kitchen.

As I mentioned earlier I spent a little time under the willow tree, which is so nice because it provides shade and muffles sounds other than the whispering of the branches. I like to just sit there and listen and hear what birds are where and just get an idea of what kind of critters are living with me here. I also like to watch Maxwell sit and watch things. How his whole body will twitch when he gets aroused by potential prey, or how his head will snap to something and lock in on it and it takes me a couple of minutes to finally spot the bird or frog or whatever caught his interest. Cats are just so fascinating from the littlest one to the largest lion out there.

I think that’s all I have. Gonna go watch some tv and wait for my friend and eat some peaches.

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Don’t Cut Them Any Slack

by @heymistermix.com|  July 25, 20243:57 pm| 360 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

This has very little to do with the post but it is funny.

In the last comment thread, two commenters mentioned that they’re uneasy with the couchbilly stuff, as well as interpreting Trump’s comments in the worst possible light.  (The example was Trump telling his supporters not to vote.  It may have been taken a bit out of context.)

First, the couchfucking:  I’m not overly offended by a joke/meme that says that Hillbilly Elegy contains a scene where JD fucks a couch.  It’s a fairly harmless joke and, let’s be frank, he does look a bit like a couchfucker.  Couchfucking, at worst, would cause some abrasions and stains, but it’s a pretty harmless act.  Contrast that with JD’s endorsement of a book that says this:

[T]his year, Vance endorsed a new book co-written by a far-right conspiracy-monger that calls progressives “unhumans” and claims they are waging an “Irregular Communist Revolution” against American civilization.

The book, Unhumans: The Secret History of Communist Revolutions (and How to Crush Them), was written by Jack Posobiec and Joshua Lisec. Posobiec is a well-known alt-right agitator and conservative media personality who promoted the bonkers Pizzagate conspiracy theory. Lisec is a professional ghostwriter. And their book professes to be a history of communist and leftist revolutionary abuses over the decades—but with a twist. They claim, “For as long as there have been beauty and truth, love and life, there have also been the ugly liars who hate and kill.” And these “people of anti-civilization” have always gone by different names: communists, socialists, leftists, and progressives. The pair contend these folks—be they the Bolsheviks of Russia or the BLM activists of this decade—are better called “unhumans.”

JD thinks its A-OK to call Democrats pedophiles who run a child raping ring out of a pizza restaurant, and “unhumans”.  A joke about intercourse with living room furniture is nothing compared to that.

Second, Trump’s gibberish:   Serious candidates for President speak with clarity and precision.  When they misspeak, or their remarks are misunderstood, then they issue corrections themselves or via their campaign.  Biden is a good example of this.  Sometimes he mixed up a word in a sentence that was clear.  That doesn’t require a correction (unless he caught it himself).  But if he said something that was misunderstood, he or his campaign cleaned it up.

Trump just pukes out gibberish.  We’re left to fish whatever meaning we can out of his stream of nonsense.  If we don’t give it the most charitable reading, well, that’s life on the big ranch for grown up boys and girls.  He can either start speaking more clearly, or his campaign can clean it up.  But — if they clean it up, he needs to consistently stick with the cleaned-up version, because serious candidates for the most powerful job in the world need to be consistent in their statements.

Trump is incapable of clarity and consistency, and that’s just too fucking bad for him.  It’s a huge mistake by the press to give him infinite mulligans because “that’s just Trump”.  We’re the opposition to Trump.  Our job is to hit him every time he talks nonsense, and part of hitting him is to make uncharitable interpretations of his verbal diarrhea.  Doing otherwise gives him a pass that no other serious Presidential candidate has gotten in any race that I can remember.

Finally, this isn’t to be critical of those commenters — Trump and Trumpers have really coarsened our political conversation and I understand not wanting to engage.  I just see it differently.

(The QAnon endorsement stuff is via LGM.)

 

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All Day Long, On the Chaise Longue

by @heymistermix.com|  July 25, 20242:32 pm| 154 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Now this is how it’s done:

Straight Into My Veins God Damn!

Play this on repeat to all your Trumpy friends:

Straight Into My Veins God Damn! 1

It never seemed to dawn on the press corpse that we must take Trump’s statements seriously because he’s running for a serious office.  And if he’s spouting gibberish, that needs to be reported on, too.

By the way, couchbilly wrote the intro to the Federalist Society’s Project 2025 Cliff Notes version — so much for running away from that.

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Kamala Harris: White Women Answering the Call – Opportunity Tonight at 8:30 Eastern!

by WaterGirl|  July 25, 20241:52 pm| 62 Comments

This post is in: Kamala Harris for President, Open Threads, Political Action, Politics

Sent to me by AM in NC :

My text group of politically engaged women friends just forwarded this around to our group for us to sign up tonight.  Thought I’d send it to you to pass on to the jackaltariat.  I think Shannon Watts (behind Moms Demand) is one of the organizers.
answerthecall2024.com

Who wants to join the call, and who wants to attend and write up a guest post about it?

Also, who thinks that a White Men: Answer the call is next?

Open thread.

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Open Thread: Does Amtrak Love Joe This Much?

by WaterGirl|  July 25, 202411:21 am| 253 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Does Amtrak love Joe enough to be making a reference to Vance and the couch?

are you team couch or team seat? pic.twitter.com/nZ0vHdyOjX

— Amtrak (@Amtrak) July 22, 2024

Open thread.

Update: In the spirit of talking about the DEI hire for *downwardly mobile white guys, I’ll share this tweet from SC.

I loved it. Tangerine and his flunky don’t want you to see this. So sharing is caring! Tears the couch potato a new one. Well done. https://t.co/ipBFC0N56L

— SchrodingersCat (@ManyWorlds1Cat) July 25, 2024

*h/t Suzanne for the DEI phrasing

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