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Nightmare Fuel: Wounded Warriors

by Anne Laurie|  August 22, 20102:30 pm| 40 Comments

This post is in: Domestic Politics, Excellent Links, War, Fucked-up-edness, Green Balloons, The Dirty F-ing Hippies Were Right

Ron Capps, in Foreign Policy, has a heartbreaking, deeply personal story about one of the most terrible prices “we” will be paying for the AfghanIraqistan fustercluck: “The New Lost Generation: Suicide rates for troops returning from Afghanistan and Iraq are out of control, and post-traumatic stress disorder is reaching epidemic proportions. But is the Pentagon willing to tally the true cost of war?”

… Rand Corp. now estimates that about 20 percent of returning veterans either have or will develop post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). The suicide rate in the Army is out of control: During the first half of 2009, more American soldiers committed suicide than were killed in combat. In June, an average of one soldier a day committed suicide.
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We don’t yet know where the current balance between blood and mental wounds lies. Between 2002 and 2009, there were about 33,000 wounded in action in Iraq and Afghanistan. During that same period, about 4,700 troops were evacuated for mental-health reasons — just over 14 percent of all troops serving in theater. But this figure only counts those cases so dramatic that the soldiers were sent home from the war. Doctors always prefer to get soldiers back to their units rather than out of theater, and not everyone who is treated appears on the record. My doctor kept my treatment quiet to keep from tarnishing my record and to protect my Top Secret security clearance. In short, that 14 percent is just a fraction of the actual number of soldiers suffering.
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At the end of America’s involvement in the Vietnam War, the Army was traumatized. Rampant drug use, poor leadership, and severe racial problems threatened to overwhelm the entire military institution. Today, drug use is back, and young officers are leaving the Army at alarming rates. We haven’t descended to the dark days of the post-Vietnam era, but the stress of long, repeated deployments is dangerous — to both the military itself and families awaiting the return of loved ones. The fallout from Vietnam reverberated for decades; it was a long and hard period for the services and for the country. The coming reckoning will happen in an America where politics are blood sport, and where neither political party has recently covered itself in glory. Like war itself, it will be a grim, untidy business.

Do go read the whole article — I’m not excerpting much, because I don’t want to spoil the weight of it (or short the many included links, which are equally informative).

And if the sheer waste of human life and potential doesn’t ruin your mood, think back to the way actual combat vets like George McGovern and John Kerry who dared to run against the conventional-wisdom cheerleading were treated by the Fighting Hellmice of the 101st Chairborne. Every Af/Iraq vet who doesn’t support all wars, all the time is going to be attacked as a “head case”, a hopelessly damaged piece of human flotsam whose only utility would be as a silent icon of Our Sainted (Should’ve Been) Dead. Although I may just have a needlessly jaded opinion of Foreign Policy‘s general realpolitikal bias.

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Very Late Night Open Thread

by John Cole|  August 22, 20102:57 am| 28 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Dinner party was a smashing success. Everyone has finally left, the leftovers are put away, the dogs have all gone potty, and I’m ready for bed, and I just can’t get over how good I have it. It really doesn’t get better than having good family, good friends, and good pets.

And Little Feat still sounds good:

RIP, Richie Hayward.

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Open Thread: Rescue Dog

by Anne Laurie|  August 21, 201010:32 pm| 80 Comments

This post is in: Dog Blogging, Open Threads, Pet Rescue

From commentor Michael:

This is Lucy. She is three now. My fiance got her when I went to Iraq. (I am a cat person, nominally, so this was the ultimate outflanking maneuver) Lucy was six months old and 45 pounds then; the shelter estimate she’d grow to be 90. She’s a Boerboel (South African mastiff), probably (some kind of mastiff, certainly). She’s also the sweetest girl in the world, totally content to lie on her back and accept belly rubs virtually all day. A stranger’s just a pettin’ you haven’t cajoled yet.

Looks like Lucy has your number, sir…
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Choosing Warren: This Would Be Bad, Because… ?

by Anne Laurie|  August 21, 20109:10 pm| 130 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Excellent Links, Show Us on the Doll Where the Invisible Hand Touched You, Daydream Believers, Rumormongering

Excellent article by Joe Nocera, in the NYTimes, on the way that “Consumers [are] Clamoring for a Leader”:

… “We’re Trojan-horsing people with the messaging,” said Bonnie Abaunza, one of the Brigadettes. In addition to Mr. Zimmer, supporters of the Main Street Brigade include the directors James Brooks and Ron Howard as well as other Hollywood celebrities. Its purpose is to back the work of Americans for Financial Reform, a large coalition of organizations pushing for financial reform. The coalition’s Web site lists the subjects it follows, including foreclosure, derivatives and mortgage reform.
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And, of course, Elizabeth Warren.
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What struck me… was the bluntness of [Warren’s] language. She used words like “tricks,” “fleece,” and “bribe” to describe the actions of mortgage and credit card lenders. And I think a lot of her appeal stems from that simple fact: she describes abuses — predatory lending, hidden fees, bewildering “disclosures” that hide more than they disclose — in precisely the way most Americans have experienced them. She conveys a powerful sense that she understands what we’ve been through this last decade.
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Her critics have complained that in her quest to avenge the downtrodden consumer, she could endanger the safety and soundness of banks, by writing rules that would strip them of billions in profits. Her essential position is that if taking advantage of borrowers is necessary to save the banks, then there is something deeply wrong with the banking system in America. The American Bankers Association may not agree with that, but that is unquestionably what most Americans believe. And they are right.

Please go read the whole article. I’ve seen a lot of the classic progressive circular-firing-squad harumphing that if so many people want Elizabeth Warren appointed to head the agency she was largely responsible for starting, there must be something wrong with the idea. Especially if some of the agitators are ‘Hollywood liberals’ who cannot possibly understand what Heartland Americans(tm) want from their government. And besides, if Obama does appoint Warren, his critics will slam him for picking an aging white feminist with a working-class background — the conservatives will say she’s a token, and the activists will say she’s a PUMA. Because those same critics would never, ever object to a white upper-class man from a privileged background, of course…

Sometimes, rarely, the “simple” solution is also the correct solution. I really hope Obama appoints Warren to head the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau come September, when he’s back from his vacation and we’re all ready to Get Serious again.

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Jon Stewart on Park51 and the NRA

by E.D. Kain|  August 21, 201011:46 am| 56 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Balko describes Jon Stewart in this clip as ‘brilliant’. He writes that Stewart was:

Eloquent, earnest (in a good way), and funny. He even showed some humility, pointing out his own inconsistency, and admitting he was wrong about the NRA-Columbine controversy.

Stewart is so often so good but this really is excellent.

The Daily Show With Jon Stewart Mon – Thurs 11p / 10c
Extremist Makeover – Homeland Edition
www.thedailyshow.com
Daily Show Full Episodes Political Humor Tea Party

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Open Thread: Click Thru, Already

by Anne Laurie|  August 21, 20109:30 am| 42 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, Open Threads, Assholes

Here’s a few nekkid little links, for those who aren’t already sick unto death of these topics:

Tim Heffernan at Esquire says “Rudy Giuliani Is Still a Colossal Seven-Letter Word”, this time about the Not-At-Ground-Zero Non-Mosque. He takes just 10 cogent & witty paragraphs to make his case, although probably not many BJ readers need convincing.

Dave Weigel posts his Cato Institute Speech, “Libertarians: How Do They Work?” at his Slate blog. He argues, among other things, that Sharron Angle won her primary “partly because she had the strongest libertarian credentials”, and that she’s slipping in the polls now because she’s not being libertarian enough. Oooookay…

Ben Smith at Politico (you have been warned) breathlessly reveals that “Key White House allies are dramatically shifting their attempts to defend health care legislation, abandoning claims that it will reduce costs and deficit and instead stressing a promise to ‘improve it.'” The Herndon Alliance rebuts: “Our research reaffirms that the more the public hears about the specific reforms in the law, the more they like it. The strategy of informing and educating the public about the law continues to be the right strategy.” Shape of the earth? — Opinions differ, but I know which side I don’t trust.

Tom Scocca at Slate spoils a feel-good week making fun of such worthy targets as Ross Doubt-that (“Douthat Thinks We Could All Learn Something Valuable from the KKK”; “Douthat Still Trying to Explain Why Bigotry Is Good for America”; “Douthat Clarifies Why He’s Still Wrong… “), Rudy Guiliani, Brett Favre (“Even BF Cannot Fathom BF Any More”), Politico (“The Culture War Is Over! Did Your Side Win?”), and Roger Clemons (“Is It Perjury If Your Mind Lives in an Alternate Dimension”) by oversharing on the “missing” BP oil plume and the news that the Great Pacific Garbage Patch may have three as-yet-unidentified global siblings.

Bill McKibben has one of his patented jeremiads, “Why has extreme weather failed to heat up climate debate?”, at the Guardian. If you have been looking for a short, well-written link source to combat the forwarded emails from your denialist acquaintances, this is an excellent start.

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And, finally, a blast from Jack Shafer at Slate about the “knucklehead” Eighteen Percenters:

… Unfortunately, the percentage of poll respondents who said Obama is a Muslim and could also successfully define Islam was not on the list of questions. Nor was the question, “If a Muslim bit you on the ass, would you be able to identify his religion?” I’m guessing that the percentage of respondents who would answer yes to either of those questions would be low, as would the percentage who could accurately describe the tenets of faith observed by Muslims.
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What we do know from the Pew survey is that beliefs about what religion Obama practices closely track the political assessment of him: About two-thirds of respondents who think Obama is a Muslim disapprove of the job he’s doing as president, while about two-thirds of respondents who believe Obama is a Christian approve of his performance.
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I’d be more upset about the Pew poll if a Gallup Poll hadn’t also reported that 18 percent of Americans think the sun revolves around the earth or that only 18 percent of Americans believe all or most of what is published in the New York Times. We can count on stupidity, willful ignorance, and intellectual sloth to plague us 100 percent of the time. All we can do is fight the darkness with light.

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America.gov

by Kay|  August 21, 20106:11 am| 95 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Open Threads, Fucked-up-edness, Security Theatre

I got this email from one of my sisters:

So, I have been watching them leaving Iraq on tv and went to the US Embassy in Iraq website, just to have a look around. From there, I went to the US propaganda website, america.gov. OMG it’s so sad to read with what’s been going on. It’s just like “we like you, we like Muslims, we have Muslims here and they are FINE, they are doing VERY WELL and thriving and not at all marginalized and look at all these pictures of them: happy and praying.” It says, “offering a place for everyone.”

Here’s the quiz on the front page:

Where is the largest mosque in the United States?

* A. Dearborn, Michigan
* B. Miami
* C. New York

Then there’s this:

20 August 2010
Off to Find America, Mosque by Mosque
Two New Yorkers take to the road for Ramadan

Washington — For Ramadan, Aman Ali and Bassam Tariq are touring Muslim America. They are fasting their way across 30 states and celebrating iftars in 30 mosques. They are driving 12,000 miles (19,300 kilometers) to get closer to their faith. And they are having a great time. Ali, 26, an Indian American, and Tariq, 23, a Pakistani American, are buddies in New York. A year ago, they said, they were praying at a mosque with a big crowd on the first day of Ramadan and came up with the idea of spending the holy month visiting a different mosque each day — 30 mosques in 30 days. “In New York City, there’s over 800,000 Muslims. If you type my address on Google, you can find 162 mosques in a five-mile radius,” Ali said. “And so we’re like, ‘Hey, let’s try it.’”

And this:

Mr. Gingrich, the former House speaker and a potential 2012 presidential candidate, said in a Fox News interview that “Nazis don’t have the right to put up a sign next to the Holocaust museum in Washington,” a comment that drew criticism for appearing to equate those proposing the Islamic center with Nazis.
Asked about the view that such remarks could fuel radicalism, Mr. Gingrich sent an e-mail response on Friday that did not directly address his critics but said that “Americans must learn to tell the truth about radical Islamists while being supportive of and inclusive of moderate Muslims who live in the modern world, respect women’s rights, reject medieval punishment and defend American laws and the American Constitution.” He added that he believed “it is possible to be a deeply religious Muslim and a patriotic American.”
Muqtedar Khan, an associate professor of political science at the University of Delaware, said he was not sure the Islamic center dispute alone would radicalize anyone. But he said it was “demoralizing” for Muslims like him who defend the United States as an open and tolerant society.
“For the first time, anti-Islamic rhetoric has gone mainstream,” he said. “What this really does is weaken the moderates and undermine their credibility.”

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