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What Mistermix Said…And THIS

by TaMara|  June 28, 20244:13 pm| 238 Comments

This post is in: Elections 2024, Open Threads, Politics

President Biden: “I don’t walk as easy as I used to. I don’t speak as smoothly as I used to… I know how to tell the truth. I know right from wrong. I know how to do this job…I know like millions of Americans know; when you get knocked down you get back up!” pic.twitter.com/V9EdtTeDGC

— CSPAN (@cspan) June 28, 2024

We have a fight ahead of us and Biden hasn’t given up on us, why should we give up on him?

 

Doomerism is how we fail to fight for ourselves & one another.
It is how authoritarians win. Let’s try to fight the doom.

Michael Mann and Timothy D Snyder

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The Constant Pants Shitting Gets a Little Old

by @heymistermix.com|  June 28, 20242:59 pm| 194 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

The Constant Pants Shitting Gets a Little Old

I’m at the gym and the Fox Chyron said something about Axelrod speculating about replacing Biden.WTF is wrong with these supposed political professionals?  Apparently there are also others but I sure can’t be bothered to find them, though a better person would mark their names down for eternity as unable to manage a campaign for dogcatcher, much less President of the United States.  (Sorry, just remembered that Jon Lovett was one of them on last night’s PSA – which made me lose some respect for him.)

I stand by my post last night saying that Biden didn’t have a great debate.  But it’s a far reach from that to consider replacing him.  The logistics alone are insurmountable, nevermind that Biden’s the best choice for the party and the country even if he had a bad night.  Plus, it’s his decision, not fucking David Axelrod or Ezra Klein or any other wanker.  (I’ve said my piece about this when Ezra brought it up a few months ago, here and here. But, in the words of a great philosopher, “I’ve said it once before and it bears repeating now.”)

Have these people just lost the plot?  Are they so far up the rectums of the DC press that they don’t know the smell of shit when it exits their useless pieholes?  What is their major malfunction?

Also, I posted this on Bluesky last night in response to some poor person who was doing a little post-debate pants shitting, but it’s about as serious as one should be about replacing Biden (i.e., not at all serious):

The Constant Pants Shitting Gets a Little Old 1

If people are living in a fucking fantasy world, treat them as such and move on.  We have an election to win.

 

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Supreme Court Decisions Again Today at 10 am ET (June 28 Edition)

by WaterGirl|  June 28, 20249:30 am| 168 Comments

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Supreme Court Decisions Again Today at 10 am ET (June 26 Edition) & Open Thread

If you want to follow along on SCOTUSblog.

I’ll copy the short summaries as each one shows up on their website.

Here we go!

In City of Grant Pass v. Johnson, the court rules that “camping ban” laws restricting the homeless from sleeping on public property do not constitute “cruel and unusual punishment” and are therefore not prohibited by the Eighth Amendment.

Sotomayor writes the dissent:

“I remain hopeful that someday in the near future, this Court will play its role in safeguarding constitutional liberties for the most vulnerable among us. Because the Court today abdicates that role, I respectfully dissent.

OPINION:  6-3  rating (bad)

 

The court overrules its 1984 decision in Chevron v. Natural Resources Defense Council, which held that courts should defer to an agency’s reasonable interpretation of an ambiguous statute. In Loper Bright Enterprises v. Raimondo, the court rules 6-3 that courts may not defer to an agency interpretation of the law simply because a statute is ambiguous.

OPINION:  6-3  rating (fuck, this is really bad)

 

 

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Now More Than Ever, TGIFriday Morning Open Thread

by Anne Laurie|  June 28, 20247:10 am| 279 Comments

This post is in: Elections 2024, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

Now More Than Ever, TGIFriday Morning Open Thread

(Clay Bennett via GoComics.com)

 
After watching the debate, keeping up with the CNN, Guardian, and Washington Post liveblogs, reading all your comments on my posts (and MisterMix’s and the Blogfather’s), and skimming a chunk of twitter… well, all the smart money said in advance that it wouldn’t change anyone’s mind, and so far it hasn’t. There’s a lot of triumphalism from the GOP, entirely too much rending of garments among the professional Democratic ‘operatives’, and an awareness among the normies that we’ve got four more months of hard work ahead of us.

My personal analogy is that the debate dumped a big, very badly made quilt of lies, over-information, and missed chances on stage. It’s up to us, during the next days weeks & months, to pick that quilt apart and re-use the best bits to create our own narrative quilt. And there is lots of material in those 90 minutes where TFG shows all his worst behavior, while Biden defends Truth, Justice, and the American way. Seam rippers at the ready!

And, as always: Sharing is caring!

All that criticism has only made her more SHARP & PRECISE. Her time is NOW!
pic.twitter.com/ZxhxmbDisu

— WMIIIX (@WilliamMatt22) June 28, 2024

White liberals I follow tonight: OMG we’re fn doomed

Black Democrats I follow tonight: Fuck that bum, let’s go Joe

Same Shit. Every. Single. Year

— NR_Garrett (@NR_Garrett) June 28, 2024

Biden: He’s just a liar. They are going to be out there fact checking all of the things that he said. I cannot think of one thing he said that was true. pic.twitter.com/5l2VyBmYZA

— Acyn (@Acyn) June 28, 2024

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This evening's hysteria will be of particular interest to the leading biographers of presidents Mondale, Dole, Kerry, and Romney pic.twitter.com/KLRHbxDE2U

— Aaron Fritschner (@Fritschner) June 28, 2024

I know this will be a deeply unpopular view, but I don't think Trump has had a good night. He looks and sounds unhinged. He's been mean and abrasive. I tend to think that people who don't like Trump will not come away from this debate feeling better about him.

— Michael A. Cohen (NOT TRUMP’S FORMER FIXER) (@speechboy71) June 28, 2024

I get it. This is all frustrating and scary. Maybe you wish it was your favorite candidate in there, but you know that’s not happening. Worst case with Biden is that he has to step down early and let his extremely competent and able VP take over. Worst case with Trump? Well.

— Jean-Michel Connard 좆됐어 (@torriangray) June 28, 2024

One last debate take – Trump saying immigrants will take "Black jobs" feels like it could hurt him way more than what most white commentators are acknowledging.

— Queerhawk 🏳️‍🌈 | 🇺🇦| 🛡 (@alwaysadorecats) June 28, 2024

You doom about the debate, not me I'm built different*

*Serenely know that in the age of hyperpolarization none of this matters

— vocational politics appreciation account (@Convolutedname) June 28, 2024

It’s true. Bidens accomplished much more with do much less. Tonight was a punch in the gut. But throwing up your hands is definitely not the answer.

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) June 28, 2024

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Wee Hours Open Thread

by Betty Cracker|  June 28, 20245:11 am| 101 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics

Congratulating myself for last night’s decision to skip the debate and turn in early. Woof!

Open thread.

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Non-Political Open Thread: Also in Atlanta, the Copa América (Soccer)

by Anne Laurie|  June 28, 20243:19 am| 10 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Sports

For @nymag, I wrote about the USMNT, my beloved forever lost cause. https://t.co/R0PqUDDjnd

— Will Leitch (@williamfleitch) June 25, 2024

Will Leitch, at NYMag — “The U.S. Men’s Soccer Team Is Excellent. Does Anyone Care?”:

Last Thursday, my soccer-obsessed 10-year-old son and I sat in Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta and witnessed 70,000 people humming the Argentine national anthem together. This was just before the first game of the Copa América, the South American soccer tournament hosted this year by the United States, and almost everyone in the stands wore the national jersey of reigning World Cup champions Argentina. The true attraction, of course, was Lionel Messi, the most famous athlete in the world. That a crowd this massive could gather in Georgia to cheer him on may have once been surprising, but certainly isn’t any longer. Last year, SSRS, a research firm that’s been surveying Americans for three decades, found that the most popular athlete in this country was not LeBron James, Tom Brady, or Stephen Curry, but Messi. Some portion of the crowd was surely singing along to the anthem in what must have been a profoundly moving moment for any Argentinian in attendance. But most of us were just humming along. We didn’t know the words. We didn’t speak the language. We were just there to see Messi.

This week, the United States men’s national team (USMNT) will play its second Copa América match, also in Atlanta. I’ll be attending that as well, and let me tell you: Tickets are a lot cheaper. This is partly understandable: The U.S. is playing Panama, not Messi and Argentina, after all. But as someone who attended the last game the USMNT played in Atlanta, a miserable Gold Cup loss in 2015 to Jamaica at the since-demolished Georgia Dome, the lack of anticipation for the U.S. men’s national team playing in Atlanta — a city that has, in the years since that Gold Cup loss, launched a highly successful, championship-winning MLS team that regularly plays some of the most well-attended soccer games on earth — is palpable. Eight years ago, the Georgia Dome was packed with maniacs dressed up like Benjamin Franklin and wearing T-shirts with bald eagles on them; this week, I can’t find anyone around here who even knows the team is playing…

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Post-Debate Thread

by @heymistermix.com|  June 27, 202410:46 pm| 320 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Post-Debate Thread

Well, unfortunately, my wife, a normie, wanted to watch the debate.  We watched it together.  Here’s my frank take:

  • Biden looked terrible.  Bronzer!
  • The moderation was awful.  An 8th grader could have done as well by watching the clock and reeling off questions.  This is especially true when you have a liar like Trump involved.
  • Biden perked up towards the end but overall I think he missed the mark.  He tried to pack too much into every question and that worked against him.
  • Trump did his best to lose by circling back on things that pricked his ego.  He also spouted a bunch of nonsense that might turn off people who have a clue.
  • Biden’s closing statement didn’t mention the word “abortion”.  That was a miss.

Overall, I think debates don’t matter that much, and this one matters less since we’re a long way from the election.  But, we all should steel ourselves for a negative turn in the polls and bad media reactions.  This was not a good debate for Joe Biden.  He stumbled at the start and recovered pretty well.  This was not a good debate for CNN.  They allowed Trump to platform lies with basically zero pushback.  If it wasn’t a good debate for Biden, and it wasn’t a good debate for CNN, we have to recognize that it was a good debate for the other person on the stage. I don’t think debates matter that much, but here we are.

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