And I approve:
*golf clap emoji*
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A good squid fact is that their brains are shaped like donuts and their esophaguses go right through the hole
— Sarah Kaplan (@sarahkaplan48) June 25, 2019
Seems like there’s a Trump metaphor lurking in there somewhere…
Meanwhile, one debate down, another — with the “heavy hitters”, some people say — same time, same place, 9pm EDT on NBC’s weird tardis stage in Miami.
The Washington Post has a full transcript of Wednesday’s debate, if you’re looking for one.
First-night Hot Take Summary, from what I can gather: Julian Castro greatly improved his chances for a Cabinet position, or maybe even the VP slot — unless the guy at the head of the ticket is Beto O’Rourke, and that’s looking somewhat less likely. Also, if #NeverTrump Repubs got to pick a Democratic candidate, it would be Amy Klobuchar — and AFAICT they’re not being snide or sneaky, she just seems like someone Tom Nichols and his friends could be comfortable with (although this may be a case of ‘I’d vote for a woman, just not *that* woman’… ) And, blessedly, among the sane people, even those who don’t much approve of Elizabeth Warren grudgingly admit that she ‘didn’t disgrace herself’ and ‘seemed to be popular with the audience’…
Yeah, that they had gone an hour and a half on substantive policy discussions, & despite his best efforts Chuck Todd couldn’t screw it up. https://t.co/W2kKTdVDrM
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) June 27, 2019
some call it the debates, I call it T-3 days before you better drop out if you’re not over 1% or everybody should kick your ass.
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) June 26, 2019
On a scale of 0 to 10, where 0 is the debate having no impact and 10 is a huge impact, I'd guess this was like a 2 or a 3.
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) June 27, 2019
Thursday Morning Open Thread: Weird (Political) SciencePost + Comments (138)
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My current pick for Jackal Comment of the Evening:
I hope that at the end of this debate, we get to vote on which two candidates get shoved off the boat. Right now, I’m voting for deBlassio and Gabbard to get booted.
Meanwhile, Rachel Maddow is missing a real opportunity to improve her market share by giving Chuck Todd an atomic wedgie.
I love watching people in the press having such a hard time dealing with the fact that there’s no middle lane. https://t.co/E8Js77THIh
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) June 27, 2019
Where are the insults? The factless bluster? The chair humping? pic.twitter.com/wBPSVw5hfL
— Schooley (@Rschooley) June 27, 2019
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The Guardian‘s liveblog is here — that’s probably how I’ll be following along:
… In terms of what we can expect our diez Democrats to discuss tonight, the DNC has promised questions about the climate crisis, which were conspicuously absent from the presidential debates in 2016.
Many of the candidates have said they support the ambitious Green New Deal, but some of the more centrist types – including Biden – are holding off. Also expect quizzing on healthcare, a real point of differentiation where some contenders support Medicare for All, some are only up for improving Obamacare, and others are somewhere in the middle.
The DNC has been at pains to promote this as a more serious debate than we have seen from Republicans in recent times, which won’t be difficult, and expect other big topics such as college fees, student loans, impeachment and, given the current situation at the border: immigration policy…
NBC.com’s liveblog is here (they’re sponsoring the debate, in partnership with MSNBC and Telemundo.
May the best woman candidate win!
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With fresh fury over the picture of a drowned father and daughter, and reports of mistreatment in immigration shelters, 2020 candidates divert pre-debate to protest Trump administration policies via @daveweigel @colbyitkowitz + @chelsea_janes: https://t.co/EqL6Vsyk0G
— Matt Viser (@mviser) June 26, 2019
Earlier today, Rep. Mucarsel-Powell, who represents part of Homestead, FL in Congress, invited all 2020 presidential candidates to visit the Homestead Detention facility, currently housing 2,300 detained migrant children. pic.twitter.com/Fx4GIRsDF6
— DJ Judd (@DJJudd) June 26, 2019
Reminder that this was the voter who asked Warren about Homestead last night, prompting her to announce she will in fact be coming here today https://t.co/zaUDKvjnnh
— MJ Lee (@mj_lee) June 26, 2019
(Have a plan — and bring your own folding chair ladder, as Shirley Chisholm would say… )
.@ewarren’s campaign has organized buses to take her supporters down to the Homestead detention center outside of Miami pic.twitter.com/uPRjJJYGF6
— Elizabeth Landers (@ElizLanders) June 26, 2019
Warren is here and up on a ladder across the street from Homestead — she is waving to children inside that she can see above the wall pic.twitter.com/LOdR52cFJK
— MJ Lee (@mj_lee) June 26, 2019
Other candidates, too:
Asked why it was important for her to visit the Homestead facility today, Senator Amy Klobuchar tells @DaniellaMicaela “This president has put us in this situation, starting with the inhumane separation of families at the border.” pic.twitter.com/NPjjVQHpOJ
— DJ Judd (@DJJudd) June 26, 2019
On family separation, Amy Klobuchar told me, “If you don’t believe that these families want to stay together, look at that tragic photo of that dad with his daughter. He was doing anything to save his daughter," referencing Julia De Luc's photo below: https://t.co/zPPS3KYpUP pic.twitter.com/rcYPz8uAcB
— DJ Judd (@DJJudd) June 26, 2019
In addition, Senator Kirsten Gillibrand will visit the Homestead Facility Friday, Gillibrand Comms director Meredith Kelly tells @Merica/@AthenaCNN. Beto O'Rourke announced a visit here Thursday earlier this week. pic.twitter.com/TdcZ8A8FWs
— DJ Judd (@DJJudd) June 26, 2019
Jane Sanders arrives at Homestead, says that closing detention facilities would be @BernieSanders first executive order pic.twitter.com/ov3upmsDaY
— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) June 26, 2019
Pre-Debate Open Thread: While They Have the Media’s Attention…Post + Comments (53)
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In the room where it’s going to happen #DemDebate pic.twitter.com/u01cKEhN8g
— Savannah Guthrie (@SavannahGuthrie) June 25, 2019
I’m probably gonna ‘watch’ the debate second-hand, via liveblogs and twitter. NBCNews.com and MSNBC.com are supposed to be streaming the whole thing, but my laptop tends to be unreliable about such high-volume platforms.
Plenty of people working hard to bring you this week’s debates, but spare a thought for two groups: The audio team responsible for miking 13 people on stage at once, and the ?@TelemundoNews? team responsible for simultaneous Spanish translation. https://t.co/GfYEQYKUE6
— Ed O'Keefe (@edokeefe) June 25, 2019
NBC debate tidbit: to avoid a "Ben Carson" awkward-entry situation, candidates will already be at their podiums (podia?) when the broadcast begins.
— Michael M. Grynbaum (@grynbaum) June 25, 2019
But then trump wouldn’t have made it to the RNC debates…. wait.
— L. Harvey (@LHarveyCI) June 25, 2019
It’s worth remembering just how irrelevant and lacking any support you have to be to not make it into these ridiculous debates https://t.co/vjp0WkpFLe
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) June 25, 2019
NB: ‘PFT Commenter’ is a parody account by a sportwriter/comedian, and the dude is still better qualified to discuss the debate than Chuck Toadie Todd, not to mention Chris ‘Mad Bitcher’ Cillizza…
#BusinessTrip to Miami (NYC ?? MIA). Its that time of the 3 year poltical cycle again: Going to attend Presdential debates and treat elections like sports. You better watch ur ass @CillizzaCNN im coming for ur market share
— PFTCommenter (@PFTCommenter) June 25, 2019
Not to mention the Squatter-in-Chief. Per NYMag‘s Daily Intelligencer political blog:
Will Trump Actually Live Tweet the Thing?
The president has gone back and forth over whether or not he will provide live commentary on both nights, although a commitment to watching two nights of fairly policy-intensive programming doesn’t really sound like his bag. Also, the 9 p.m. air time for the debates overlaps with Hannity…
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This seems like ridiculous carping on the part of Team Sanders. It's not like Elizabeth Warren is some brash newcomer. Do they want a coronation based on age? https://t.co/K5ea29m9Ek pic.twitter.com/vPTet8WgIR
— Tom Watson (@tomwatson) June 25, 2019
No doubt I will pay for this later. WORTH IT!
MoveOn's straw poll result… Warren at 38% more than doubling Sanders (17%) and waaaaaay up from December… Biden coming up with 15%, which is typical for him. Overwhelmingly win the groups that favor him and don't collapse in more hostile territory. pic.twitter.com/qw1EpILJgm
— (((Harry Enten))) (@ForecasterEnten) June 25, 2019
If I were Bernie I'd be asking my advisors how in the hell I'm only getting 17% of the https://t.co/J6fg8ZrYlw vote after getting 79% and the group's endorsement in 2016. (Sorry for your mentions, @ForecasterEnten). https://t.co/dRmSJnjid3
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) June 25, 2019
At least among people who vote in the Democratic primary, there are probably more pro-establishment progressives than anti-establishment progressives, and in any event, Sanders needs significant support from both groups to win the nomination.
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) June 25, 2019
Because Bernie’s greatest appeal in 2016 was being the only legitimate alternative to Hillary Clinton. When there are more candidates running, he fails to really stand out.
— Scott Challeen (@ScottChalleen) June 25, 2019
Biden almost matching Sanders in a MoveOn poll is mindblowing…and not in a good way for Sanders
— Edward Lechner (@elechner1) June 25, 2019
But he will wait a few months because he loves the attention.
— wormbolt (@wormbolt) June 25, 2019
The problem for the Sanders campaign goes deeper than Warren's appeal – it's that there's a conflict at the heart of his ideology. He wants to stake a claim on being the first and most progressive, but he also wants to ignore intersectionality and appeal to racist Trump voters. https://t.co/j0gn7OXfZe
— Shannon ??????? (@TheStagmania) June 25, 2019
AHEM AS I WAS SAYING https://t.co/2WPq5r3Dfb
— Shannon ??????? (@TheStagmania) June 25, 2019
This is some bullshit right here, folks: "People have to decide do they want originals or do they want copies."
Turner and other Sanders backers may despise Warren for surging ahead, but there's no question – in any way – that the Senator is an original.
— Tom Watson (@tomwatson) June 25, 2019
Funniest thing here is Bernie is running far behind the man who's way ahead of him in the polls but he chooses to whine about the woman who is about to kick him out of second place. https://t.co/0vpg2iepVa
— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha) June 25, 2019
Schadenfreude Open Thread: <em>But It’s His TURN!!!… </em>Post + Comments (44)