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Bernie Sanders 2016

Tuesday Evening Open Thread: Good for Sen. Sanders

by Anne Laurie|  July 26, 20166:19 pm| 191 Comments

This post is in: Bernie Sanders 2016, Election 2016, Hillary Clinton 2016, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Readership Capture

Bernie Sanders making unexpected visit to Cali breakfast. "It's easy to boo, it's harder to look your kids in the face if Trump is prez"

— Martin Gelin (@M_Gelin) July 26, 2016

Bernie: "Politics is not easy stuff, ask anyone in civil rights, labor, women's movement, you don't get it all overnight". Boos quiet down.

— Martin Gelin (@M_Gelin) July 26, 2016

Biggest boo at RNC came when Ted Cruz said "vote your conscience". Biggest boo at DNC when Bernie said "This is the real world".

— Martin Gelin (@M_Gelin) July 25, 2016

Of course, he had some serious backup…

John Lewis at California delegation breakfast: "If we don't defeat Trump, history will not be kind to us".

— Martin Gelin (@M_Gelin) July 26, 2016

Apart from another long evening watching the convention, what’s on the agenda?

Added bonus, tonight:

On the program for tonight: a video message from Jimmy Carter, meaning every living Dem president will have a presence here in Philly

— Gabriel Debenedetti (@gdebenedetti) July 26, 2016

Tuesday Evening Open Thread: Good for Sen. SandersPost + Comments (191)

That went well

by David Anderson|  July 11, 20168:39 am| 151 Comments

This post is in: Bernie Sanders 2016, Election 2016, Hillary Clinton 2016

Last month:

The hope that it will pay off provides motivation for the candidate, for the senior staff, for the field organizers and for the volunteers. Election results are a clue by four towards reality. Re-adjusting to the actual reality instead of the hoped for reality takes time and at least for me, one or two stupid statements.

Today is a recovery day for Senator Sanders and his campaign. Tomorrow is a reassessment day with a meeting between Senator Sanders and President Obama who can gently deliver any needed clue by fours and provide credible guarantees towards policy/platform enforcement mechanisms. I would be totally happy for Senator Sanders and his campaign to finish out the string in Washington DC next weekend and then start a wind-down with a concession by the middle of the following week. It takes time to mourn a loss and organize a wake, so fellow Clinton supporters, give the Sanders supporters that time please.

 

And now:

Sanders campaign statement on Tuesday's NH event pic.twitter.com/dvPhS4JMUJ

— Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) July 11, 2016


 

It took a couple weeks longer than I thought it really needed to, but the Clinton campaign has been busy hiring a lot of good Sanders staffers since three days after California so the reconciliation and unity building blocks had started to be assembled early on.

So let’s just chill.

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And So It Begins…

by Tom Levenson|  June 8, 20167:56 pm| 229 Comments

This post is in: Bernie Sanders 2016, Election 2016, Hillary Clinton 2016

No time wasted.  Not a moment.

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Via TPM, this account of Hillary’s conversation with Bernie Sanders after her victory speech last night:

Clinton said on CNN that she “totally” understands how Sanders’ supporters feel and she congratulated the Vermont senator on his “really extraordinary campaign” in her call to him. She said she looked forward to working with Sanders to defeat presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump.

Sanders’ response to this overture, according to Clinton?

“Senator Sanders has said he will work every day, every week to see that happen, so we’re going to be working to make sure that we have a unified party going into our convention and coming out,” Clinton said.

And Clinton added a message for Sanders’s voters, telling them, “She would “reach out” to his supporters, adding that she and Sanders had similar goals for health care and minimum wages.”

This is the phase of the campaign that gives the lie to the old joke, “Time is the universe’s way of making sure everything doesn’t happen at once.”

 Image: Edward Richard Taylor, Twas a Famous Victory, 1883

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On mourning a loss

by David Anderson|  June 8, 20162:09 pm| 31 Comments

This post is in: Bernie Sanders 2016, Election 2016, Hillary Clinton 2016

Following up on Tom’s post this morning, I want to say a couple of words about the Sanders’ campaign.

Losing sucks.

I’ve been lucky in that the last two contested Presidential primaries, my preferred candidate won.  In 2008, I was basically happy with either Clinton or Obama but finally went Obama about a month before my state voted.  If the results were reversed, I think that by the time Obama wrapped up his concession speech and I had finished my second beer of the evening, I would be on board with voting for Senator Clinton and e-mailing a good friend who was one of her regional organizers about where they needed a volunteer data geek to help cut turf.

I don’t begrudge Senator Sanders running for as long as he did.  The Presidential primary process for candidates who aren’t selling books or getting in on the grift  is effectively a single iteration game with effectively winner take almost all pay-outs.  Promises made by the winner to everyone else have weak enforcement mechanisms.  From this perspective as long as a candidate has resources and a plausible path to victory, I understand why they stay in.  I understood why Senator Clinton stayed in for so long in 2008.  Odd events (such as the  John Edwards fiasco or a heart attack) happen, so playing a bad hand that is not yet a guaranteed loser of a hand is logical.

Furthermore, as campaigns go on, especially campaigns that aren’t going too well, there is often an incestuous feedback loop.  Romney in 2012 believed that the polls were skewed and he was a favorite going in to Election Day.  None of his advisors were able or willing to break through the bullshit that campaigns tell themselves every day that there really is a plausible path forward to victory.  Campaigning for most people sucks (Bill Clinton exempted) as it is exhausting, repetitive, stressful work.  The hope that it will pay off provides motivation for the candidate, for the senior staff, for the field organizers and for the volunteers.  Election results are a clue by four towards reality.  Re-adjusting to the actual reality instead of the hoped for reality takes time and at least for me, one or two stupid statements.

Today is a recovery day for Senator Sanders and his campaign.  Tomorrow is a reassessment day with a meeting between Senator Sanders and President Obama who can gently deliver any needed clue by fours and provide credible guarantees towards policy/platform enforcement mechanisms.  I would be totally happy for Senator Sanders and his campaign to finish out the string in Washington DC next weekend and then start a wind-down with a concession by the middle of the following week.  It takes time to mourn a loss and organize a wake, so fellow Clinton supporters, give the Sanders supporters that time please.

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Live Stream to Senator Sanders’ Remarks

by Adam L Silverman|  June 8, 201612:33 am| 393 Comments

This post is in: Bernie Sanders 2016, Domestic Politics, Election 2016, Open Threads

Here it is. Who says we can’t do equal time at Balloon Juice?

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Open Thread: Sen. Sanders Needs to Look Behind Him

by Anne Laurie|  June 7, 20169:56 pm| 88 Comments

This post is in: Bernie Sanders 2016, Election 2016, Open Threads, Fools! Overton Window!

Sanders plans to ‘assess’ presidential bid at home in Vermont after Tuesday contests https://t.co/KP9cSlyUPf

— Propane Jane (@docrocktex26) June 7, 2016

@BostonBoomer Also may want to assess the fact that @AlGiordano's coming for his seat.

— Propane Jane (@docrocktex26) June 7, 2016

I'll be on BBC World News radio at 10 p.m. ET. I was asked what Senator Sanders must do to keep me from running.https://t.co/7OclLtHOZ0

— Al Giordano (@AlGiordano) June 7, 2016

Joy-Ann Reid, at the Daily Beast — “Meet Al Giordano, the Man Who Wants to Take Bernie Down”:

If Al Giordano challenges Bernie Sanders for his U.S. Senate seat in 2018, he will tick nearly all of the boxes Sanders checked during his surprisingly robust presidential run…

So why would he do it? Because in Giordano’s view, and that of his social media supporters, Bernie is losing ugly and hurting Democrats’ chances of prevailing against Donald Trump in November.

“I mean, what haven’t they touched?” Giordano asks, peering at me via a 6-by-4 inch Skype window from his home in Mexico City. “What part of the Obama coalition have they not alienated? It’s like they want to erase the coalition.”

Giordano is referring not to Sanders himself, but to his most fervent online followers, who have blasted away at everyone from John Lewis to Delores Huerta to Elizabeth Warren, and most recently Barney Frank, for failing to support Bernie’s “political revolution,” or worse, for backing Hillary Clinton, who is loathed by a swath of the Sanders faithful. Giordano says he blames Sanders for the vituperative tendencies of his shock troops, and for failing to talk them down.

Giordano, a bearded, graying, former reporter with the Boston Phoenix alternative weekly, cut his teeth as an anti-nuclear protester in the early 1980s while living in Rowe, a small Massachusetts town bordering Vernon, Vermont. When he wasn’t filing for the Phoenix, he spent his time protesting the twin nuclear power plants on either side of the state border: Yankee Rowe and Vermont Yankee. And he became close friends with the late leftie activist and anarchist Abbie Hoffman. He has spent the last 19 years in Mexico, where he runs an online newsletter, Narco News, and a school that trains journalists to cover social movements. His claim to fame is winning a First Amendment case against the Banco Nacional de México, which sued him, a Mexican reporter and Narco News for libel over a series of stories claiming a bank official was in league with Central American drug cartels.

The 56-year-old Giordano presents as a combative Hillary Clinton supporter, but he didn’t vote absentee for her (or for anyone) in the April 19 primary in his home state of New York. He vocally backed and voted for Barack Obama in 2008, but has only voted for president one other time in 20 years: for Bill Clinton in 1996.

“For me this is not about Hillary Clinton, who has her strengths and she has her flaws,” he says. “This is about a coalition that has saved the United States and can keep saving it, and this is what needs to be protected. And so maybe it’s time for the Obama coalition to go to Vermont.”…

BBC interviewer: "But hasn't Sanders reinvigorated the left?"

Al: "If it's not multi-racial it's not the left."

— Al Giordano (@AlGiordano) June 7, 2016

There’s still time for Sen. Sanders to do the right thing, and go back to his ‘safe’ seat in Vermont! But remember, VT’s a poor state and one with a suprisingly small population — contesting a Senate seat there would be nowhere near as ‘impossible’ as trying for NY, or even MI or OH. And I can attest, from my experience as a Masshole, that even a popular Senator (hello, John Kerry) who runs for president and fails suddenly becomes a big fat LUZER among his low-info constituents.

Don’t remember which of you commentors turned me on to Al’s twitter feed, but I owe you a big thanks! Al’s Wikipedia page is back (after some aggrieved BernieBros managed to get it pulled for being ‘insufficiently significant’ yestheyarethatpetty), so you can follow the links there for further information.

Open Thread: Sen. Sanders Needs to Look Behind HimPost + Comments (88)

Tuesday Evening Open Thread: I’m With Her, Too

by Anne Laurie|  June 7, 20166:00 pm| 103 Comments

This post is in: Bernie Sanders 2016, Election 2016, Hillary Clinton 2016, NANCY SMASH!, Open Threads

Just in: Nancy Pelosi endorses Hillary Clinton, praises Bernie Sanders for "great invigoration." pic.twitter.com/eJCbUx3FbS

— Alex Seitz-Wald (@aseitzwald) June 7, 2016

Nacy Pelosi plays the Good Cop. And the Bad Cop? Well, last week, there was this Politico report:

… “I’ve never been too good at math, but I can figure that one out. I think he better do a little mathing,” Reid said…

Reid went on to say that while Sanders has the right to continue his presidential campaign, he doesn’t recommend extending it.

“No, I don’t think he should. I don’t know what that’s going to prove. Sometimes you just have to give up. I’ve lost before. The numbers aren’t there.”

@chucktodd: How many superdelegates have switched to you in last few months?

Sanders mgr Weaver: I can't tell you that there are any

— Mark Murray (@mmurraypolitics) June 7, 2016

Sen. Sanders has had all the fun made the best impact he can in this election cycle. Anything less than a gracious concession, at the very least, is not going to make his future career path pleasant…

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