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Look At Their Faces. Learn Their Names. Never Forget Them!

by Adam L Silverman|  June 24, 20195:07 pm| 72 Comments

This post is in: America, Crimes against humanity, Criminal Justice, Domestic Politics, Foreign Affairs, Immigration, Justice, Politics, Silverman on Security, Torture, Sociopaths

Anne Frank didn’t die in one of the Zyklon B gas chambers. She died from typhus contracted from the unsanitary conditions in Bergen-Belsen, the concentration camp she was interned in waiting for execution. She contracted typhus in that camp because her father’s attempt to get a refugee visa for the Franks to come to safety in the US was denied. The reason we have the immigration rules we have now, no matter how in need of updating and revision they are (like too much else in the US), is because of how the Franks, the refugees on The St. Louis, and others trying to flee NAZI tyranny and the Holocaust were treated in the run up to and during World War II. The stories brought back by American Soldiers of what they’d seen in the liberation of the camps and the historical documents found, utilized, and archived by both Civil Affairs personnel and US civilian personnel for the Nuremberg Trials shamed the US into making the changes. It are these changes, changes to prevent the US from ever again being a passive party to the death and destruction of tyranny, state terror, and genocide, that the President, Stephen Miller, former AG Sessions, Senator Cotton, Congressman King, the President’s base of supporters, the base of the GOP and the conservative movement now seek to overturn in an attempt to return to the Immigration Act of 1924.

The children that are dying in the concentration camps that the Trump administration have established on or near the southern border are dying from disease contracted from unsanitary conditions or worsened by them. And they are in those camps because instead of processing their initial asylum requests and releasing them along with their parent or parents, they are being separated and detained in the hope that news of this will somehow get to desperate people in villages in Central American and that will deter them from trying to seek asylum in the US.

Here are the faces and the names of the children who have died in US custody or because they were in US custody* so far.

https://twitter.com/alvarombedoya/status/1141941402177298432

https://twitter.com/alvarombedoya/status/1141942963221815296

https://twitter.com/alvarombedoya/status/1141943778682560513

Here is the Google Docs document that has been created to record these crimes against humanity.

https://twitter.com/alvarombedoya/status/1141947218078982146

We will need a Truth & Reconciliation Committee to come through this. And it will not only need to have the authority to refer prosecutions, the legislation establishing the Truth & Reconciliation Committee will need to include language establishing a crimes against humanity tribunal for the people who conceived of this policy and strategy, who ordered it, who carried it out, and who have tried to cover it up.

Look at their faces! Learn their names! Never forget them and what is being done to others like them in the name of the United States.

Open thread!

* US personnel have, apparently, been transferring seriously ill detainees from custody to hospitals so that they technically do not die in one of these camps or other Customs & Border Patrol or Health & Human Services Office of Refugee Resettlement facilities.

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Dark Night of the National Soul Open Thread: Trump’s Concentration Camps

by Anne Laurie|  June 19, 201911:42 pm| 25 Comments

This post is in: Immigration, Open Threads, Republican Venality, Torture, Your Place Is In The Resistance, Are these Nazis Walter?

Coalition of WWII Japanese American internment camp survivors stage peaceful protest at immigrant detention facility on Texas border https://t.co/iZLmM5O0W8

— Nick Estes (@nick_w_estes) June 19, 2019

Thing is, I don’t think this is a power move — it’s the GOP’s frantic effort to appeal to worst elements of its Base by upping the public cruelty, because Trump’s lost his novelty and the economic impact of the GOP’s smash-and-grab is affecting too many ‘dependable’ GOP voters. It’s like offering fentanyl to a heroin addict in withdrawal… assuming the GOP oligarchs are fentanyl addicts already, and the junkie has the key to the drug safe.

I remember reading that, by the final months of World War II, Hitler’s staff was pulling desperately needed resources away from the production of weapons to keep the trains running to the death camps. We need to fight back, hard, but we shouldn’t let an unwarranted despair over Republican power deter our efforts.

What does them a tremendous disservice is fainting-couch rules for sanitizing discussions about a grotesque & criminal policy of taking asylees who’ve broken no laws by seeking asylum, stealing their children, & taking those not sent to concentration camps & putting them in cages https://t.co/RSufgg36E5

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) June 20, 2019

Maybe people SHOULD start talking about whether Border Patrol are like Nazis. They’re not as bad as Nazis, of course. But going even a tiny step in the direction of Nazis is not at all acceptable!

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) June 20, 2019

The current “debate” started, AFAICT, because Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez “decried the conditions of migrant detention facilities the administration is using to cope with a surge of border crossings and highlighted a decision to hold some children at an Oklahoma Army base that was used as an internment camp for Japanese Americans during World War II.” So Dick Cheney’s favorite daughter Liz — already “the No. 3 Republican in the House” — upheld her family’s proud tradition of inhumanity by pretending the Holocaust meant something more to her and her GOP associates than a rhetorical tool. Every Media Village Idiot (plus some quasi-liberal people who should’ve known better, like Chris Hayes) rushed to wallow in the quicksand…

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.@aoc isn't expressing an opinion, she is stating a fact: Border detention centers *are* concentration camps. Trying to reject the label is not going to make the atrocity go away: https://t.co/SdFmfd3IaJ

— Annalisa Merelli (@missanabeem) June 18, 2019

/Children keep dying in the custody of an unaccountable government agency that has herded people deemed without rights into camps in the desert

"I would be very disturbed if someone were to compare what's happening here to anything."

— David Roth (@david_j_roth) June 18, 2019

Oh, good. Auschwitz and Holocaust are trending.

[throws phone in Potomac]

— Julia Ioffe (@juliaioffe) June 18, 2019

People policing the use of 'never again' are avoiding who Trump's camps are being built FOR. Asylum seekers fleeing murderous RW governments & the drug war. Many are indigenous, descended from survivors of genocide.

The comparisons to the past don't stop at mere mass detentions.

— Zeddy (@Zeddary) June 19, 2019

So, @chrislhayes invoked Goodwin's Law as a cowardly out from calling concentration camps what they are

…. and Goodwin himself logs on to disagree pic.twitter.com/hwh5GPazUw

— T. Fisher King (@T_FisherKing) June 19, 2019

Not going any deeper into Concentration Camp Twitter today, but the term originated to describe British tactics in the Boer War, and was later applied to Nazi tactics.

Problem with saying “internment camp” instead is that you remind people that Americans had them before.

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) June 18, 2019

If using the correct English definition of a policy to accurately describe it triggers lots of people then the problem is the policy not the language. https://t.co/EruokBoziE

— Jon Walker (@JonWalkerDC) June 18, 2019

Every camp warehousing people en masse outside of the regular legal system starts the same way: it's the humane alternative and it's just temporary. The rest is history. Read @andreapitzer's One Long Night.

— Justin Miller (@justinjm1) June 18, 2019

Historians: Concentration camps are actually what they are

Journos: But it makes the right wing uncomfortable

Historians: Yea, I mean…it should

Journos: But it's a highly charged term

Historians: Right, that's the point

Journos: But it describes atrocities

Historians …

— Andrew Lawrence (@ndrew_lawrence) June 18, 2019

If you're more offended by comparisons to the Holocaust than the treatment of migrants at the border, you're the reason we say "Never again."

— Elad Nehorai (@PopChassid) June 18, 2019

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Umwhut

by Tim F|  December 16, 201411:29 am| 47 Comments

This post is in: Torture

Up front, I want to plead guilty to third hand blogging a rumor that started in the Daily Mail. There is really no excuse and I’ll post a new picture of Max at the end to make up for it. In defense of the rumor it seems like good advice for Cheney and his administration to stay within the United States and its territorial waters at least until the whole concept of international jurisdiction for crimes against humanity blows over. When even John fucking Yoo, John “child’s testicles” Yoo, tries to get some distance from the torture report then you know these guys should think twice about vacationing in the civilized world*.

But all that said I find it a little crazy that dubya would back out of a charity gala in Switzerland and for that reason. Sure, I get that times have changed. You cannot just bury that laundered fortune in an anonymous Swiss account until the statute of limitations expires, and the Swiss have in general opened up lately to the world community. Some have even taken a serious look at getting out from under the shame of what they facilitated in WWII. But even when the law technically allows it arresting a former American head of state adds up to a reckless, ballsy act that I would not seriously expect even from the more activist scandanavians. I can see George Tenet or even Don Rumsfeld getting escorted from Heathrow or CDG by armed smurfs. Europe might open protracted and ultimately fruitless negotiations to arrest Cheney if he chose to spend a month in the French riviera being pelted with fruit walking about in public. But Bush? In Switzerland? Honestly, I would love that to be true as much as anyone but I suspect the charity took stock of the latest news and quietly rescinded their invitation.

Max.

(*) By which I mean countries that don’t torture.

***Update***

Looks like the Mail just re-reported an item from 2011. No link because it’s the freaking Mail but they updated with a correction. Again, I bet that the charity in question just got some local pushback and canceled the invite.

***Update 2***

Crooks & Liars, to which I did link, got the year wrong and made the correction. I am a lazy blogger.

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Before we go patting Mark Udall and Diane Feinstein on the back…

by Soonergrunt|  December 11, 201412:56 am| 108 Comments

This post is in: An Unexamined Scandal, Stream of Consciousness, Torture, War on Terror aka GSAVE®, Blogospheric Navel-Gazing, Both Sides Do It!, Decline and Fall, Midnight Confessions, Our Failed Political Establishment, Outrage

Remember that they knew all of the stuff in the torture report for years, and they did and said NOTHING.  Feinstein was in the “gang of eight,” as the Chair of the Ranking Member of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence since 2009.  She’s known all or most of this stuff since then.  A couple other notable members of that group are Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.

As for Udall, he has been on the Senate floor today as a couple of earlier posts by John and Anne Laurie pointed out. But he’s been on the SSCI for at least the last two years, and was very involved in the research on the torture report.

It’s good that an executive summary of the report has seen the light of day. It’s important for us to know what’s being done in our names, and I seriously doubt we’d have gotten actual information from the Republicans after they take over late next month.  It would be very nice for the Politicians who oversaw torture programs and the lawyers who twisted the law to claim it was legal to be punished, but I’m not holding my breath. The prime difference between Charles Graner and Dick Cheney is rank, after all.

Having said that, why, if this report shocks the consciences of those who’ve read it, are we only seeing the exec summary, and why only now? Udall waits until now when there’s no risk to him doing this. Well, better late than never for your ideals, I suppose, even if it’s to demand a couple of people resign and not, as he said he would, to enter the text of the report into the Record. Feinstein is as safe as a Democratic Senator can get. She could have read the actual contents of the entire report into the Congressional Record at will at any time and nobody could have stopped her and there would’ve been no cost to her at the ballot box in 2018.

Everything I’ve just said above applies to the other Democrats who’ve served on the SSCI in particular and to a lesser extent on the House Committee on Intelligence since 2001.  We still don’t have effective oversight of the CIA or the NSA or the rest of the Intelligence community because our representatives in Congress are complicit in keeping these secret.  If Congressional oversight is the mechanism by which we exercise control over our government, we are being sadly failed by the people that we’ve sent up there to provide that oversight. And the Republicans are every bit as complicit, but being Republicans, it was absolutely predictable that they’d actively work against the interests of the general public on issues like this, and the few who aren’t are notable for that.

And lastly, look in the mirror. After 9/11, the vast majority of the American public was demanding that the government do whatever had to be done to keep another mass-casualty attack from taking place. A lot of people who otherwise counted themselves as liberals supported the Bush administration in their taking a free hand to do whatever the hell they wanted in those early years.  And while Liberals began to peel off of that support within a couple of years, it wasn’t even as Iraq dragged on, and Abu Ghraib first exposed some of the ugliness did the majority of our country begin to express doubts and question what we were doing there. And in fact, it wasn’t until after Hurricane Katrina landed on our own shores and we witnessed the full extent of their incompetence and mendacity where they couldn’t hide it that the majority of the American public finally began to admit that Bush and Cheney and their minions had lied us into an unwinnable war on the other side of the world.  And our Congress, including the heroes of many people here, supported them for much of their agenda.  The USA PATRIOT Act passed a Democratic-held Senate, and a Democratic-held Senate gave retroactive immunity to the NSA and private corporations that assisted them later on.  These were our elected representatives that did these things or allowed them to happen.  They are our will made whole, and their acts and things, dark and light, are ours.  Before we spend too much time wallowing in the outrage bath, we would do well by our children and our ancestors to remember that.

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The CIA Torture Report – Yes, It’s Still Out There

by Anne Laurie|  December 4, 201410:02 pm| 21 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, Torture, Decline and Fall

NEW: DOJ discloses in court filing in @vicenews #FOIA case that Senate/CIA rpt w/be released "early next week." https://t.co/PWN9fC7Vid

— Jason Leopold (@JasonLeopold) December 4, 2014

Look back, not forward!… because you know what they say about those who don’t learn from the past. From the Vice link:

The Department of Justice (DOJ) provided the first official confirmation on Thursday that a long-awaited report prepared by the Senate Intelligence Committee on the CIA’s enhanced interrogation program will be released “early next week.”…

At Bloomberg View, Josh Rogin and Eli Lake have more detail on “the Battle Over the CIA Torture Report“.

At The Intercept, Dan Froomkin (whose skeptical Washington Post column got me through Dubya’s first term), shares “12 Things to Keep in Mind When You Read the Torture Report“:

… The report, a review of brutal CIA interrogation methods during the presidency of George W. Bush, has been the subject of a contentious back-and-forth, with U.S. intelligence agencies and the White House on one side pushing for mass redactions in the name of national security and committee staffers on the other arguing that the proposed redactions render the report unintelligible.

Should something emerge, here are some important caveats to keep in mind:

1) You’re not actually reading the torture report. You’re just reading an executive summary. The full Senate Select Committee on Intelligence report on the CIA’s interrogation and detention program runs upward of 6,000 pages. The executive summary is 480 pages. So you’re missing more than 80 percent of it.

2) The CIA got to cut out parts. The summary has been redacted – ostensibly by the White House, but in practice by officials of the CIA…

4) The investigation was extremely narrow in its focus. Committee staffers only looked at what the CIA did in its black sites; whether it misled other officials; and whether it complied with orders. That is somewhat like investigating whether a hit man did the job efficiently and cleaned up nicely.

5) The investigation didn’t examine who gave the CIA its orders, or why. The summary doesn’t assess who told the CIA to torture…

6) Torture was hardly limited to the CIA. In fact, the worst of it was done by the military….

Just before Thanksgiving, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s former lawyer, Jason D. Wright, told Politico “America Tortured—And We Need to Shed Some Light on It“:

… This report, set to be accompanied by a CIA response and review by former CIA Director Leon Panetta, is the backdrop for President Obama’s admission at a White House news conference in August: “We tortured some folks.”

Let’s be clear: President Obama is wrong on one point. There’s no collective “we” here. The American people did not torture these folks. The sin of torture is on the hands of those who directed the torture, those who contorted the law to justify the torture, those who applied the torture—and those who have attempted to cover-up the torture…

We, the American people, must not commit the sin of silence. We need a public debate about the American torture policy. We need this debate to obtain some measure of governmental accountability and ensure that we never repeat these mistakes again. We also need this debate to demonstrate to the world that the United States of America can once again be the shining beacon on the hill, that principle is more important than politics, and that the rule of law is greater than the rule of men…

There’s one more slim chance that we non-VIPs might get access to the full report:

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… In his first interview since Election Day, Udall told The Denver Post that he would “keep all options on the table” — including a rarely used right given to federal lawmakers — to publicize a secret report about the harsh interrogation techniques used by CIA agents in the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks…

“Transparency and disclosure are critical to the work of the Senate intelligence committee and our democracy, so I’m going to keep all options on the table to ensure the truth comes out,” Udall said.

That includes a little-used privilege of the U.S. Constitution called the “Speech or Debate Clause,” which has been suggested by civil libertarians to shake loose the information.

“I mean, I’m going to keep all options on the table,” said Udall when asked specifically about that method.

As written, the Speech or Debate Clause gives lawmakers near-blanket immunity from prosecution when speaking on the floor of the U.S. House or Senate — even if they reveal classified information.

The most famous example of its use came in the early 1970s when then-U.S. Sen. Mike Gravel of Alaska wielded its power to force the Pentagon Papers into the congressional record, an effort that supplemented reporting by The New York Times on the secret Vietnam War documents.

Reached by phone, Gravel urged Udall to chart a similar course…

That was in mid-November, but as of yesterday, Udall hadn’t publicly rejected the idea.

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Fables of the Restoration

by Betty Cracker|  October 27, 20142:44 pm| 123 Comments

This post is in: Election 2008, Election 2010, Election 2014, Election 2016, Politics, Republican Stupidity, Republican Venality, Torture, Assholes, General Stupidity, Our Failed Media Experiment, Our Failed Political Establishment, Shitheads, Sociopaths, The Dirty F-ing Hippies Were Right, The Wingularity

As Election Day nears, the battle for King Shit of Turd Mountain, i.e., the contest between Charlie Crist and Rick Scott for governor of Florida, has produced a shit-storm of negative advertising. Commercial after commercial projects images of the combatants in sinister poses and evil lighting, accompanied by strained voiceover accounts of their misdeeds in office.

Obviously, the Crist Photoshop team has the cushier job: I don’t think there’s a photo in existence of Rick Scott where he doesn’t look like an alien creature from a reptile off-world come to foreclose an orphanage and grind the inhabitants into feed-paste.

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But yesterday, there was an ad I hadn’t seen before featuring former Governor Jeb Bush excoriating former ally Charlie Crist as a career politician only interested in personal aggrandizement. The stones. The fucking stones on those Bushes.

Bush 2016: The Restoration is apparently a thing. Here’s a puke-inducing paragraph from a NYT article published yesterday about the alleged upswing in Jeb Bush’s political prospects:

Just six years ago, at the end of the last tumultuous Bush presidency, this would have been all but unthinkable. But President Obama’s troubles, the internal divisions of the Republican Party, a newfound nostalgia for the first Bush presidency and a modest softening of views about the second have changed the dynamics enough to make plausible another Bush candidacy. And while Jeb Bush wants to run as his own man, invariably this is a family with something to prove.

Unpacking that paragraph is like opening a rancid diaper pail, but let’s brace ourselves and give it a go: “President Obama’s troubles?” Yes, he has them, mostly traceable to Stately Bush Manor and exacerbated by the Bush-aligned vandals in Congress.

“Internal divisions of the Republican Party?” Oh, you mean that GOP rebranding campaign gone awry in which the Republican Party nominated scads of pekoe-huffing troglodytes who lost winnable races and turned the GOP presidential primary into a crackpot bake-off?

“Newfound nostalgia for the first Bush presidency and a modest softening of views about the second?” Bush I is a doddering old fart who occasionally weeps with shame in public over his fuck-up namesake. He will be forever overshadowed by the half-wit he served as VP, and his son empowered a cabal of sociopaths to complete the cycle of destruction Poppy’s boss set into motion.

And now we’re seriously being asked to countenance another Bush run at 1600 Pennsylvania? Just shoot me now. (You can get away with it here in Florida — thanks to Jeb’s partnership with the NRA.) I can’t be objective because I utterly despise them all. But is there really a Bush restoration movement afoot outside of the Bushies, their minions and political columnists? Y’all help me out here: I haven’t seen any evidence of it.

God, that article. “This is a family with something to prove?” Fuck them. “The Bushes, Led by W., Rally to Make Jeb ’45’?” From the current generation until the sun goes supernova and vaporizes this planet, fuck the Bushes, and fuck the putrid media hacks who enable them by framing the ambitions of that clan of psychotic leeches as if writing a human interest piece on a sports dynasty.

When the Obama administration decided not to pursue its vile predecessors for their ghastly war crimes and corruption, I understood the rationale, even if I didn’t agree with it entirely. It would have paralyzed the government in the midst of a cascading global crisis.

But the question of justice denied aside, this spectacle of the Bush family rehab alone is evidence that the dirty fucking hippies were right: We should have driven a stake through the fat black heart of that bunch when we had the chance.

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Johnny Come Lately

by John Cole|  August 7, 20146:55 pm| 45 Comments

This post is in: Torture, Our Failed Media Experiment, Republican Crime Syndicate - aka the Bush Admin.

Isn’t this swell:

Given those changes, reporters urged that The Times recalibrate its language. I agreed. So from now on, The Times will use the word “torture” to describe incidents in which we know for sure that interrogators inflicted pain on a prisoner in an effort to get information.

What a bold stance. Now that we are allegedly no longer torturing (who the hell knows what the CIA is doing really, as they are quite clearly a rogue agency), and you can no longer suffer repercussions from the Bush/Cheney goon squad, NOW you are going make the editorial call. Thanks, guys!

it’s a good thing, but it took you a fucking decade?

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