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Technically true, but collectively nonsense

Polls are now a reliable indicator of what corporate Republicans want us to think.

Our messy unity will be our strength.

“A king is only a king if we bow down.” – Rev. William Barber

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Give the craziest people you know everything they want and hope they don’t ask for more? Great plan.

If America since Jan 2025 hasn’t broken your heart, you haven’t loved her enough.

Insiders who complain to politico: please report to the white house office of shut the fuck up.

Compromise? There is no middle ground between a firefighter and an arsonist.

Putin must be throwing ketchup at the walls.

Impressively dumb. Congratulations.

They are not red states to be hated; they are voter suppression states to be fixed.

There are consequences to being an arrogant, sullen prick.

Innocent people do not delay justice.

White supremacy is terrorism.

Do we throw up our hands or do we roll up our sleeves? (hint, door #2)

Perhaps you mistook them for somebody who gives a damn.

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Reality always gets a vote in the end.

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Squish This Post! (Open Thread)

by Betty Cracker|  October 24, 20247:57 pm| 66 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics

I’m sure someone will be along soon with a proper post, but in the mean time… What else do Americans need to know?

Dumb NYT headlines

Buckle up, buttercups — the Trump surrogate pitches will only get stupider over the next 10 days. I recommend avoiding the bullshit as much as possible.

***

Bill and I are still in our flood refuge. We miss home, but we are enjoying the availability of mod-cons like DoorDash. It’s still 1995 in the swamp.

Open thread!

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What If?

by WaterGirl|  October 24, 20245:21 pm| 216 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Decades ago I read a book.  No idea who the author was, no idea what the title was.

All I remember is the suggestion that if you are going to “What if…” you should do it for both sides of the equation.

So in this thread, can we “what if?” to the good side?

What if our hard work pays off, and we win?

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Checking In From The Dirty South

by @heymistermix.com|  October 24, 202412:27 pm| 240 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Checking In From The Dirty South

Is Missouri the South?  In attitude, it certainly seems to be.  These signs were everywhere in southern Misery.  Some varieties had a little infant in the lower left corner, but they all had the mom bouncing her 6 month-old baby.  Lots of them on church lawns, and many were paired with Trump signs (not on church lawns).  I’m sure there’s some loophole that allows churches to advocate for issues not candidates, and if not, 6 Supremos will make it so in their next term.  [ETA: Amendment 3 would establish a constitutional right to abortion in the Missouri constitution, so “Yes” is the right vote.]

Part of the right-wing ratchet, whereby they keep getting their unpopular, retrograde agenda into the mainstream, is driven by “respect” for churches and the asinine beliefs peddled within.  (How dare you try to criticize stormtroopers, don’t you know they’re god-fearing churchgoers?)  I’m sure I’ll be ashes before it ever happens, but I’d love to see some Democrats start talking about taxing churches — not the charitable part, just the big, empty, useless chapels.  With both Harris and Walz checking the box of going to church (Kamala mentioned her pastor in last night’s CNN Town Hall, Walz talked about his faith in the debate), I’m thinking that day is far away.  No criticism of either Harris or Walz implied here — you do what you must to win, and maybe they even believe that stuff.

Once I escaped Missouri and Kansas (even worse that Misery), I stopped to fill up at a truck stop in Eastern Colorado — Boebert’s newly adopted district — where I saw a grandpa marching his three little granddaughters into the back seat of his pickup with a Trump/Vance bumper sticker.  People like him are the target of the “Protect Children and Families” nonsense — he knows that those little girls will grow up and probably move to the cities of the nearby Front Range to get a job. (In his part of the world, these jobs are going boy, and they ain’t coming back.)  But if they’re baby trapped after some homeboy knocks them up in the back seat of a pickup on prom night, after contraception and abortion have been outlawed like gramps wants, at least his family is protected.  If, by “protected”, you mean that he doesn’t have to experience the rejection of kids moving to the cities because they’re full of opportunities and great experiences, even though Fox tells him that they’re hellholes.  I’m hoping (and expecting) that the Front Range will vote “yes” in massive numbers on Amendment 79, which puts abortion rights into the Colorado constitution, so those little girls have a choice when they get older, even if the assholes grandpa supports get elected.

Anyway, those are my bitter musings on the current state of the country.  I’ve pretty much stopped looking at polls and even reading much of the election coverage, because everything’s within the margin of error, and most of the discussion is noise about polling noise.  I still think we’re gonna win, but who knows by how much.  It is notable that the grandpa I saw in Colorado didn’t have a Boebert sticker on his truck, too.  So maybe there’s a little hope for even that benighted part of God’s green earth.

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Thursday Morning Open Thread: Good Morning, Democrats

by Anne Laurie|  October 24, 20247:59 am| 387 Comments

This post is in: Elections 2024, Kamala Harris for President, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

NEW: I’m literally at a @willienelson show in San Antonio and just learned he will be traveling to Houston on Friday to be at the Kamala Harris rally.

DJ Tryfe, and businesswoman Ms. Tina Knowles, mother of Beyoncé Knowles will also be part of the program. pic.twitter.com/bG7caqyJbg

— Jeremy Wallace (@JeremySWallace) October 24, 2024

Vice President Harris makes a stop in Philadelphia to thank voters: “We have 13 days to go and I am so deeply thankful to you… We love our country and we are prepared to fight for the best of who we are” pic.twitter.com/lItQYqjbrW

— Kamala HQ (@KamalaHQ) October 23, 2024

Been saying it for two years: few guys—especially those who fancy themselves election analysts—grasp the enormity of Dobbs.

What the CRA/VRA did electorally to racist Southerners Dobbs is doing to women all across America. Repubs have lost women for a generation. https://t.co/CPl4uLkyyS

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) October 23, 2024

On top of all of the political horror, I hate that the fact that (mostly male) pundits do not think having a sexual predator in the Oval Office, making long-term decisions about women’s lives was/is an important and devastating issue.

— Martha ???? LET’S GO ,LA ???? Smith (@jazziknits) October 23, 2024

Kamala Harris will deliver a major address in DC on the Ellipse – the site of Trump’s attempt to overturn the 2020 election – where she will make the case to turn the page on Trump’s era of chaos and pursue a New Way Forward for the country.https://t.co/BpIS9p6K8W

— Republicans for Harris (@RepsForHarris) October 24, 2024

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Per CNN:

Vice President Kamala Harris plans to deliver a final-stretch closing argument address next week at the same location her rival delivered a fiery speech on January 6, 2021, that set in motion the attack by his supporters at the US Capitol.

Harris’ speech Tuesday at the Ellipse, a park just outside the South Lawn of the White House, will amount to a high-profile denunciation of former President Donald Trump’s fitness for office and a warning about the chaos she says he would bring to the Oval Office should he win.

Coming a week ahead of Election Day, Harris will use the major address to contrast her own vision of the presidency with her rival’s, painting pictures both of what her first term would look like and a dire portrait of Trump’s potential return…

Harris is approaching Tuesday’s speech as a prosecutor, her advisers say: After laying out evidence against Trump, she plans to bring together her case to a “jury” of voters.

A permit application for the event obtained by CNN estimated a crowd of roughly 7,500 at the event, with 250 staff, organizers and volunteers.

It said the speaking program will consist of four to five individuals and elected officials.

Tuesday’s event is an indication of the Harris campaign’s belief that reminding voters of Trump’s past actions can help cement the choice for any who remain undecided.

Harris has often invoked the insurrection on January 6, as part of her argument that democracy is at stake.

“Donald Trump left us the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War,” Harris said of the insurrection during the presidential debate in September. The campaign has also frequently used images of January 6 in ads…

The vice president kicked off the year, during what was then the Biden campaign, focusing on abortion rights, and the issue will feature prominently in the closing days as Democratic officials maintain it’s a galvanizing one for voters.

She also plans to campaign with former President Barack Obama, as well as former first lady Michelle Obama, in the days ahead of Tuesday’s speech.

I believe in the idea of this country. It’s already great in so many ways, and it can and will be greater. That starts with Harris winning, which she will. Chip in however you can folks, we’re winning this thing.

— Jean-Michel Connard ??? (@torriangray) October 24, 2024

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War for Ukraine Day 973: Secretary Austin Confirms that Kim Has Sent North Korean Special Forces To Russia

by Adam L Silverman|  October 23, 20249:14 pm| 50 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

Two quick housekeeping notes. First, Rosie is doing okay. She’s moving a bit slow and having a moderately strong reaction to her final chemo therapy treatment. This is not unexpected and she’ll get back to her more normal self in a couple of days. Thanks for all the good thoughts, well wishes, prayers, and donations.

Second, I’ve had a very, very long day. I have another tomorrow, so I’m just going to do the basics tonight.

The AP informs us that Secretary Austin has confirmed that North Korean Special Forces have been deployed to Russia:

The U.S. said Wednesday that 3,000 North Korean troops have deployed to Russia and are training at several locations, calling the move very serious and warning that those forces will be “fair game” if they go into combat in Ukraine.

The deployment raises the potential for the North Koreans to join Russian forces in Ukraine and suggests expanded military ties between the two nations as Moscow seeks weapons and troops to gain ground in a grinding war that has stalemated after more than two years.

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin called it a “next step” after the North has provided Russia with arms, and said Pyongyang could face consequences for aiding Russia directly. His comments were the first public U.S. confirmation of North Korea sending troops to Russia — a development South Korean officials disclosed but was denied by Pyongyang and Moscow.

White House national security spokesman John Kirby said the U.S. believes that at least 3,000 North Korean soldiers traveled by ship to Vladivostok, Russia’s largest Pacific port, in early to mid-October.

In the center of Moscow, Russians are already happily taking pictures with officers from the DPRK. pic.twitter.com/NNOtbZVf2a

— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated) October 23, 2024

🇰🇵🇺🇸 “We don’t exactly know what these guys [Korean soldiers in Russia] are gonna do”, – John Kirby

P.S. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️ pic.twitter.com/0qQskd0doH

— MAKS 24 🇺🇦👀 (@Maks_NAFO_FELLA) October 23, 2024

And? You will do something, right? RIGHT??
(unlikely) https://t.co/PBFIZJXNdc

— Kate from Kharkiv (@BohuslavskaKate) October 23, 2024

Let’s not be hasty…

Here is President Zelenskyy’s address from earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

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Major Focus Is on Challenging Directions in the Donetsk Region, and the Needs of Our Warriors, Brigades for Timely Supplies from Partners – Address by the President

23 October 2024 – 20:06

I wish you health, fellow Ukrainians!

Briefly about this day.

I held a meeting with the Prime Minister, Denys Shmyhal, on current issues and some urgent decisions that need to be made. There was also a meeting with the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council, Oleksandr Lytvynenko, about monitoring the implementation of NSDC decisions and preparing some military agenda for the next meeting of the Staff.

Commander-in-Chief Syrskyi delivered a report on the frontline situation and the Kursk operation. The major focus is on challenging directions in the Donetsk region. And also, the needs of our warriors and our combat brigades for timely supplies from partners. Timeliness always means better results. Today, I want to highlight the efforts of our warriors: the 38th separate marine brigade – this is the Pokrovsk direction – and the 79th separate airborne assault brigade – this is the Kurakhove direction. Thank you, guys!

We also have some important news from the United States – America has approved a decision to provide $20 billion. These are funds sourced from frozen Russian assets. Part of the G7 decision on $50 billion for Ukraine – for our defense, for our resilience. This is something that will really support us. And it is important to implement it within this year. I thank the United States, I thank the entire Group of Seven.

And one more thing.

Today, there was a meeting with representatives of our Ukrainian civil society. Many organizations were involved – foreign policy, defense sector development, human rights, freedom protection. Among them was Maksym Butkevych – a Ukrainian human rights activist and warrior whom we recently managed to free from Russian captivity. We discussed in detail the Victory Plan and our need for unity – collectively restoring justice for Ukraine, bringing peace closer, and communicating with our partners on all matters that can make Ukraine stronger. We are counting on unity in promoting our partners’ decision to invite Ukraine to NATO. And also, in our defense system development. We should be more active in urging our partners to be decisive in defense cooperation. And we must also work together on steps that will help Ukraine recover more quickly from this war.

I thank everyone who helps! Glory to all those who fight for Ukraine!

Glory to Ukraine!

The reason:

Meet Britney, call sign “Captain”. She is a former member of the Canadian Armed Forces. She served as a tank crew commander on a Leopard tank.

When Canada delivered the first Leopard tanks to Ukraine, Britney came to Ukraine to train crews as an instructor. Now she serves as a… pic.twitter.com/UmAZO6fbS4

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) October 23, 2024

Meet Britney, call sign “Captain”. She is a former member of the Canadian Armed Forces. She served as a tank crew commander on a Leopard tank.

When Canada delivered the first Leopard tanks to Ukraine, Britney came to Ukraine to train crews as an instructor. Now she serves as a gunner.

“I will do my best to be effective on the battlefield and help Ukraine stay free and independent,” Britney says.

📷: 25th Airborne Brigade

Britain:

The UK is donating an additional £120 million toward the Maritime Capability Coalition within the #UDCG.

The donation will finance the delivery of maritime drones—aerial and uncrewed boats, as well as surveillance radars to protect the Grain Corridor.

We are grateful to our… pic.twitter.com/WsNHFjuM88

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) October 23, 2024

The UK is donating an additional £120 million toward the Maritime Capability Coalition within the #UDCG.

The donation will finance the delivery of maritime drones—aerial and uncrewed boats, as well as surveillance radars to protect the Grain Corridor.

We are grateful to our British friends for their leadership in Maritime Coalition and unwavering support!
🇺🇦🤝🇬🇧
@DefenceHQ

A new group of Ukrainian pilots has graduated from RAF Elementary Flying Training.

The next step is advanced fast jet training & conversion to F-16 with partner nations.

A heartfelt thank you to the United Kingdom for their unwavering support! 🇺🇦🇬🇧@RoyalAirForce pic.twitter.com/B13QiT1jJF

— Ukrainian Air Force (@KpsZSU) October 23, 2024

France:

“the first batch of Mirage fighter jets for Ukraine will consist of three aircraft, and that France plans to deliver them “in the first quarter” of 2025…By that time, they must complete the preparation of the vehicles & training of pilots & engineers.” https://t.co/nuecjyupm3

— Shashank Joshi (@shashj) October 23, 2024

From Ukrainska Pravda:

The first batch of Mirage 2000-5s that France intends to supply to Ukraine will contain three aircraft, according to information obtained by the French media outside official channels.

Source: La Tribune with reference to unofficial sources, writes European Pravda

Details: Journalists learned that the first batch of Mirage fighter jets for Ukraine will consist of three aircraft, and that France plans to deliver them “in the first quarter” of 2025 (January-April). By that time, they must complete the preparation of the vehicles and the training of pilots and engineers.

The aircraft will be armed with SCALP/Storm Shadow cruise missiles and French AASM air-to-surface guided bombs.

The French Ministry of Defence did not comment on this information.

Background:

  • French Defence Minister Sébastien Lecornu said that the delivery of fighter jets to Ukraine is scheduled for the first quarter of 2025.
  • In September, the Minister of Defence of Ukraine said that negotiations are also underway with partners on the Swedish Saab JAS-39 Gripen and the German-UK Eurofighter Typhoon.

South Korea:

Estonian Reserve Soldier Artur Rehi has an interesting take on what South Korea might do or could do in response to Kim deploying North Korean Special Forces to Russia:

Sending North Korean troops to Ukraine could be a serious mistake for Putin for a number of reasons, one of which is the active position of South Korea. Seoul has declared its readiness to begin providing direct military assistance to Ukraine, including the supply of
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artillery, tanks and other modern weapons. South Korea is one of the world’s largest defense powers with a powerful military-industrial base, whose products are in demand all over the world. South Korea’s decision to join the conflict could significantly change the balance
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of power. South Korea has not only high-tech weapons, but also trained military specialists who can provide advisory support to Ukraine in the fight against North Korean troops. The South Koreans are well aware of the specifics of the actions of North Korean forces: their
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strategies, methods of warfare and the psychological state of soldiers under constant threat of reprisals. Moreover, South Korea can provide linguistic and intelligence assistance, facilitating interaction with the North Korean military on the battlefield. For Putin,
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North Korean troops may seem like a beneficial addition to Russian forces. North Korean soldiers are accustomed to strict discipline and unquestioning obedience to orders, even the most brutal and dangerous ones. Putin needs “cannon fodder”, and North Korea can become a
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source of these resources. Russian tactics remain unchanged: the destruction of the settlements by aircraft and artillery, followed by ground assaults. North Korea has probably sent one of the world’s most brutal special forces, which once guarded the father of dictator
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Kim Jong-un, to fight against Ukraine, Bild reports. The publication calls them “combat slaves”, because they grew up in an information vacuum: without the Internet, communications, phones and Western TV. However, South Korea’s intervention could lead to serious consequences
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for Russia. Sending its troops to Ukraine, as well as supplying weapons, could push other countries to follow its example. South Korean weapons and technology will give Ukraine a new advantage, and their specialists will help cope with the threat from North Korean soldiers.
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De-escalation does not work. Current methods of containing Russian aggression, such as a ban on the use of Western weapons to strike Russia itself, have proven ineffective. However, Putin’s actions could become a catalyst for new decisive steps by the West. The United
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States has allocated a new $400 million defense aid package to Ukraine. This was announced by US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin during a meeting with President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in Kyiv. If restrictions on the use of Western weapons are lifted and Ukraine receives all the
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support it needs to fully confront Russian troops, South Korea could play a key role here, and its participation in the conflict would further strengthen support for Ukraine. Putin, trying to strengthen his position, risks receiving an even more decisive rebuff from
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the international community. However, the longer the community delays responding, the more Putin will escalate. Sending NATO troops to Ukraine for non-combat missions, such as guarding the Belarusian border, would help free up the country’s resources to fight against Russia
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Portugal:

A memorial to the victims of the Holodomor

The Kursk cross border offensive:

New: 1000s of North Korean soldiers in Russia will be sent to fight Ukrainian troops in Kursk in the next week, Kyiv intel officials told @FT. They added that overall more than 12,000 North Koreans arrived in the far east of Russia ahead of deployment. https://t.co/fT532pibIb

— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) October 23, 2024

From The Financial Times:

Thousands of North Korean soldiers in Russia will be sent to fight Ukrainian troops in the Kursk region in the next week, Kyiv intelligence officials have warned.

The officials said that overall more than 12,000 North Koreans had arrived in the far east of Russia ahead of their deployment in Kursk, although other countries differed on the size of Pyongyang’s force.

US defence secretary Lloyd Austin also said on Wednesday that Washington was “seeing evidence that there are North Korean troops that have gone to Russia”. North Korea moved at least 3,000 soldiers into eastern Russia from early to mid October, according to the White House.

While South Korea and Ukraine have previously said Pyongyang had sent troops, Austin’s comments marked the first time the US had confirmed the North Koreans’ presence in Russia.

“If they’re a cobelligerent, their intention is to participate in this war on Russia’s behalf, that is a very, very serious issue,” Austin said. “It will have impacts not only in Europe — it will also impact things in the Indo-Pacific as well.”

The troops were undergoing training at military sites in eastern Russia and it was not clear whether they would enter combat in Ukraine, though “this is certainly a highly concerning probability”, US National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said later on Wednesday.

Should North Korean soldiers enter into combat, it would be an “unprecedented level of military co-operation” between Russia and North Korea with significant security implications in Europe and the Indo-Pacific, Kirby said.

Ukraine’s western allies are increasingly concerned about North Korea’s role. While Pyongyang has provided Russia with missiles and millions of artillery shells, the deployment of military units marks the first foray of a foreign country’s army in the conflict.

The Ukrainian officials said that recent information had led them to revise up the total number of North Koreans to 12,000, including special forces, and that “thousands” would be dispatched to Kursk, in the south of the country, by the end of the month.

Last week President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said 10,000 North Koreans had been sent to Russia.

The Kyiv officials added that the soldiers had been personally sent off by North Korea’s leader Kim Jong Un in a ceremony this month.

Ukraine captured an area of about 600 sq km in Kursk in a surprise raid in August, and hopes to use it as a bargaining chip in any negotiations with Russia to end the war.

The North Korean troops have been filmed receiving Russian military uniforms and equipment at a training ground in Russia’s far east, according to the South Korean government.

Both Ukrainian and South Korean officials said the troops have been given false documents identifying them as Buryats, an indigenous group in Siberia, to allow Moscow and Pyongyang plausible deniability about their involvement.

South Korean officials suggested this week that the North Korean troop deployment to Russia could convince Seoul to supply direct lethal military aid to Ukraine for the first time.

A presidential official told South Korean state media that Seoul would consider sending Kyiv defensive weapons, “and if a threshold is exceeded, we could ultimately consider offensive weapons as well”.

Moscow’s possible reliance on North Korean troops “would be a sign of weakness, not strength, on the part of the Kremlin”, Kirby said.

More at the link.

Two points. First, it may be a sign of Russian weakness, but there are going to be between 3,000 (the low end estimate) and 12,000 (the high end estimate) of these Korean Special Forces on the battlefield that will have to be dealt with.

Second, it makes perfect sense for the Russians to disguise these guys as Buryats. The Buryats, as well as the Tyvans, are ethnic Mongols who live in ethnic “republics” – Buryatia and Tyvan – on the Russian side of the steppe. The Buryats have a long history of serving in the Russian, Soviet, and now Russian (again) military. They’ve taken disproportionately high casualties in Russia’s genocidal re-invasion. And there’s a lot of physiognomically visual overlap in how the North Koreans and the Buryats look. This is supposed to give Putin and Kim the ability to claim that no, the North Korean Special Forces are not fighting against Ukraine, those are Buryats. The North Korean Special Forces are in eastern Russia doing multinational training.

If nothing is true, anything is possible.

Pokrovsk:

The Kara-Dag Brigade’s artillery is striking enemy positions in the Pokrovsk direction.

📹: @ng_ukraine pic.twitter.com/aFVrCP2KJW

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) October 23, 2024

Ukrainian soldier of the “Skala” unit single-handedly repels the assault of the Russian assault group. Pokrovsk front. https://t.co/WyMp4vhofZ pic.twitter.com/VGvhwXVOA6

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) October 23, 2024

Chasiv Yar:

Chasov Yar. Another city of Donbass destroyed and annihilated by the Russian army. There are no residents left.

Genocide in its purest form. pic.twitter.com/s5gIXNuoSy

— Денис Казанський (@den_kazansky) October 23, 2024

Irpin:

Remember that ill-fated destroyed bridge between Kyiv and Irpin through the debris of which people were fleeing to save their lives from advancing Russians during the Battle of Kyiv?

Here’s what the place looks like today. They built another bridge, and now a memorial site was… pic.twitter.com/Jye7ZhQXb7

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) October 22, 2024

Remember that ill-fated destroyed bridge between Kyiv and Irpin through the debris of which people were fleeing to save their lives from advancing Russians during the Battle of Kyiv?

Here’s what the place looks like today. They built another bridge, and now a memorial site was established.

I was there at the beginning and the end of the battle — and I must say a human-made miracle happened in there.

That’s enough for tonight.

Your daily Patron!

We are fighting the Russian army, which Belarus and Iran are supporting, and now North Korea — just a typical Wednesday for Ukrainians. Once again, we stand on the brink of winter, on the verge of new, horrific missile attacks. Some say challenges are given to those who can… pic.twitter.com/4O3oekGrtG

— Patron (@PatronDsns) October 23, 2024

We are fighting the Russian army, which Belarus and Iran are supporting, and now North Korea — just a typical Wednesday for Ukrainians. Once again, we stand on the brink of winter, on the verge of new, horrific missile attacks. Some say challenges are given to those who can handle them. We can, and we are unafraid. But is the world not afraid to witness the creation of such a powerful military alliance? When history books will write, “It should have been stopped at the beginning, but…” And what follows the “but” is precisely what we are witnessing right now. Only we see it in reality. In 100K resolution.

If you can support Ukraine, please continue doing so every day. Without you, it’s tough for us to fight so many furious states. Thank you for everything ❤️

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Republican Venality Open Thread: Trump & the Generals

by Anne Laurie|  October 23, 20248:15 pm| 184 Comments

This post is in: Elections 2024, Military, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Republican Politics, Trumpery

A soldier, the daughter of Mexican immigrants, was murdered at Ford Hood. Trump had the family to the White House, and offered to cover the costs of the funeral.
When he got the bill, he refused to pay:
“It doesn’t cost $60,000 to bury a fucking Mexican!”
www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc…

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— Don Moynihan (@donmoyn.bsky.social) October 22, 2024 at 9:38 PM

Gen. Kelly’s statements about Trump should be a campaign ender, but (predictably!) it’s being hand-waved as a hypothetical, just TFG being himself, probably a gross exaggeration from someone with a book to sell, and besides was Hitler really that bad, given what we know now.

But this anecdote about Vanessa Guillen… rushing to grab some publicity when an American-born soldier is murdered, and later dismissing her & her grieving family this way? I hope the Harris/Walz campaign *and* Colin Allred share TFG’s comments widely.

Wait she's the soldier he was talking about? Their are like a half dozen memorial murals for her in South Houston. Democrats need to spend all week demanding Ted Cruz give comment on this and make this a focus of their rally here on Friday. https://t.co/Yv2hPlI2gF

— Environmental Services Weedle (@PartyWurmple) October 22, 2024

Trump’s Chief of Staff John Kelly: “[Trump] commented more than once that ‘Hitler did some good things’” pic.twitter.com/QwSrOwkCGT

— Kamala HQ (@KamalaHQ) October 23, 2024

Q: Do you think Trump is a fascist?

Trump’s Chief of Staff John Kelly: Well, I'm looking at the definition of fascism. It’s a far-right movement with a dictatorial leader and forcible suppression of opposition… So certainly in my experience, he falls into the definition of a… pic.twitter.com/1znyIrkzJ8

— Kamala HQ (@KamalaHQ) October 23, 2024

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When Trump insists that Hitler's generals were "totally loyal" despite the Valkyrie plot what he means is he wants the Waffen-SS. A separate entity loyal to him personally.

A Republican Guard. https://t.co/Kg2ixbNsz4

— zeddy (@Zeddary) October 22, 2024

The fact remains that trump’s secretary of defense is stating on the record publicly here that as president trump tried to order the US military to deploy and shoot US protesters in 2020 pic.twitter.com/0XNNPMEnqC

— Luke Zaleski (@ZaleskiLuke) October 22, 2024

There is zero chance this would be handled calmly if this story were about the Democratic nominee. https://t.co/5EDW3FcA1J

— Brian Schatz (@brianschatz) October 22, 2024

The usual suspects, running clean-up today:

“German generals who were Nazis or whatever” https://t.co/lc0MgoSp3i

— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) October 23, 2024

BOLDUAN: Are you okay supporting someone who Marine Gen. John Kelly says fits the definition of a fascist?

CHRIS SUNUNU: I think most of American is gonna go this way pic.twitter.com/tuxSztpYq4

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 23, 2024

there’s one candidate who had two hitler-related stories drop today and the other is kamala harris.

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— Marisa Kabas (@marisakabas.bsky.social) October 22, 2024 at 8:15 PM

While we’re at it, when John Kelly was mad about the “tone” taken by a Black Congresswoman, he had no hesitation whatsoever getting in front of a camera and letting the moral outrage rip. How about now? https://t.co/2kWES9Lpr6

— Patrick Dillon (@mpdillon) October 22, 2024

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News on “the shove”: Will there be transparency by Friday on what really happened at Arlington National Cemetery with the Trump campaign? Could happen. https://t.co/I9vm5To6Ky

— Jill Lawrence (@JillDLawrence) October 22, 2024

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Blue in Red Places (Open Thread)

by Betty Cracker|  October 23, 20246:23 pm| 55 Comments

This post is in: Elections 2024, Open Threads, Politics, Proud to Be A Democrat

This weekend I was driving to the grocery store, and I saw a crowd gathered at the courthouse square. It’s where local protests happen — I had the pleasure of taunting protesting “Stop the Steal” MAGA sore losers several times after 2020.

At first, from a distance, I took these folks for MAGA choads:

Distant crowd in front of courthouse

Then I took a closer look:

Guy with Harris-Walz sign

According to the local supervisor of elections, this county has around 120K voters. About 68K are Repubs, 28K are non-affiliated, and 22K are Dems.

We are outnumbered, but we are here, even in the reddest places. Open thread.

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