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If you still can’t see these things even now, maybe politics isn’t your forte and you should stop writing about it.

Weird. Rome has an American Pope and America has a Russian President.

Stay strong, because they are weak.

Red lights blinking on democracy’s dashboard

Boeing: repeatedly making the case for high speed rail.

With all due respect and assumptions of good faith, please fuck off into the sun.

The gop is a fucking disgrace.

Seems like a complicated subject, have you tried yelling at it?

Accused of treason; bitches about the ratings. I am in awe.

The republican caucus is covering themselves with something, and it is not glory.

Their shamelessness is their super power.

One way or another, he’s a liar.

Innocent people do not delay justice.

“They all knew.”

“A king is only a king if we bow down.” – Rev. William Barber

I desperately hope that, yet again, i am wrong.

It is possible to do the right thing without the promise of a cookie.

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Saturday Night Gutter Fights Open Thread: Rumble in the Reicht-Wing Jungle

by Anne Laurie|  September 14, 202512:26 am| 179 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Republican Outlaws, social media

last night as i was trying to wind down for bed i had a unified theory of what the fuck just happened, and i wrote it down, and filed it under "well, i can't talk about this on main without sounding insane until and unless the perp gets caught and is provably a groyper"
anyways, great news! (1/X)

— J. C. Cantwell 🌻 (@segfaultvicta.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 12:13 PM

People can say (almost) anything on the internet, but this thread has been circulating on the BlueSky circles I see:

the bitch of it for them is charlie kirk WAS a generational talent who was going to become president someday. he was genuinely extremely fucking good at his job and he’s almost certainly the reason Trump won reëlection

one of the big things that happened in the background that a lot of people didn’t see was the Groyper Wars – Fuentes and Kirk were beefing, Fuentes controls a bunch of insane white twinks who were intimidating everyone at conservative events

it was a whole thing I can’t adequately summarise, but Kirk was the one who, at least for a while, had managed to defuse it – this is why he suddenly tacked hard to the right on immigration and racism, that was calculated.

by kneeling to the groypers, Kirk was – successfully – defusing the tension in the Hitlerjugend, conceding ALL the ground on racism and immigration and, like, channer shit, basically, in exchange for being able to position himself as the intellectual heir to Trumpism.

that was his play here. keep up the gadfly act until he could be, like, Vance’s chief of staff or something, G-d only knows, but the point is, he was the man who could unite Turning Point and the groypers by knowing what to concede to Fuentes et al. and how to do so

recently, Kirk kept calling for the release of the Epstein Files, even after Trump called him and asked him to stop, and Fuentes has been FURIOUS about it, and won’t-someone-rid-me-of-this-meddlesome-priest about it: stochastic terrorism wasn’t a “if”, at this point, it was a “when”.

Kirk thought, i am SURE of it, that if HE was able to get out in front of the Epstein files – he KNEW what was in them, obviously. He knew that there’s SOMETHING there that’s genuinely, actually, catastrophically explosive

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He wanted the fucking positionality of being the one within the conservative Trumpist movement to expiate its own sins by throwing the old dying man under the bus and claiming the mantle as the one who Purified The Movement

the promised prince of QAnon, the Guy Who Exposed The Pedophiles, it would not be the Democrats, it would be Charlie Kirk, and he’d be able to use it to win the Groyper Wars forever and marginalise them for good.

the next few seasons of the show were supposed to be about him, and everyone knew it, and then nick fuentes, that poor, stupid, loyal twink, fucking beefed it for all of them by killing him. or engaging in stochastic terrorism such that he was killed by one of his followers. the world may never know

and nobody’s going to be able to grab the ring – CERTAINLY not Fuentes – because you need to be able to code-switch between Christian Pastor and also Charm The Grandmas and ALSO gutter-racist antisemite Branch Hitlerian Dialect. and nobody is going to be able to do that like he could.

some people have said “oh the billionaires will just decant another one” or install Tim Pool or Hanania or something like that but, I need you to believe me when I say that that is *not how this works*, and Turning Point was the work of decades, and Charlie Kirk was load-bearing for it.

coda, more than a correction:
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— J. C. Cantwell 🌻 (@segfaultvicta.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 2:13 PM

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That's entirely correct, you can't just substitute these people. I mean some you can, but just like Trump himself there was no Kirk but Kirk.

— Cai (@annenotation.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 12:30 PM

I also got the sense that he kept his nose actually clean; I would have been actually surprised if there were a sexual assault claim against him, etc. He had a long game all planned out, and he kept his eyes on the prize.

— Cai (@annenotation.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 12:31 PM

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There are a lot of grifters out there, a lot of whom are quite good at it and make a lot of money telling billionaires and the right wing mob exactly what they want to hear.
But there aren't many that can get Ezra Klein to give them a posthumous blowjob in the Times.

— Mayor Cardamom (@aangtifa.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 2:52 PM

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As an observation on this *specifically*, does anyone remember Andrew Breitbart? How much clout does Breitbart News carry, now that he’s gone?
I think you’re right about this; part of the issues lies in his insight & flexibility, and part lies in his ability to be personable while being horrid.

— fidelioscabinet (@fidelioscabinet.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 4:20 PM

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When Breitbart expired under the newspaper rack Bannon was involved with him but I don't know if this lasted.

— Always Think 1st so U R #WokeAF (@alwaysthinkhow.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 9:14 PM

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Excellent thread. I have two mea culpas:
1. I thought it’d be Vance who shivved Trump once it was perceived he’d outlived his usefulness busy using Epstein against him
2. If the Kirk-Fuentes rift is true/real then I apologize for saying this is not Night of the Long Knives w/ Kirk as Rohm

— frostellicus (@maxellxlii.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 1:07 PM

i've said this before, but charlie kirk was who jd vance desperately wishes he were to a point that's physically painful to watch
and, i mean, gosh, maybe he's rethinking that this week! love that for him. love that for all of us.

— J. C. Cantwell 🌻 (@segfaultvicta.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 1:12 PM


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Thiel doesn't want to be the leader, he wants the leader to do what he tells him to.
Vance is just woefully brimming with inauthenticity that he can't code switch because nobody believes that he believes any of it. He's a toady.

— Padraig2112 (@isomorphism.net) September 12, 2025 at 12:41 PM

JD Vance wants to be Charlie Kirk so bad it is physically painful to watch

— J. C. Cantwell 🌻 (@segfaultvicta.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 12:46 PM

but he is just so very bad at it which is great!

— First Wordle Problems (@fwordleproblems.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 12:46 PM

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The ensuing power vacuum is going to make things pretty chaotic for a while. Even if somebody immediately steps in to fill it, there’s no guarantee the Hitler Youth Lite are going to respect/follow the new guy as unquestioningly as the original guy.

— golvio (@golvio.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 5:52 PM

Given that a lot of the younger adherents are nostalgia-poisoned nerds and Gamers™️, “They Changed It So It Sucks” Syndrome will probably factor in here. Their own reactionary tendencies coming back to bite them by making them inflexible toddlers who can’t handle change or put their feelings aside.

— golvio (@golvio.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 5:54 PM

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I wasted my teen years on imageboards and I desperately want people to understand that neo-Nazis and the alt right are actually like 20 personality cults in a trench coat and will absolutely engage in inter-faction violence over sleights nobody on the outside could ever understand.

— Pizzachu 🐑 (@pizzachu.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 12:53 PM

If you want to see a knife fight, ask whether Slavic people are white, or whether it is Race Science or Cultural Darwinism that separated whites from everyone else. The most seemingly inconsequential deviations from enforced ideology makes you an existential threat to the group.

— Pizzachu 🐑 (@pizzachu.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 12:56 PM

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What was the substance of the beef between Kirk and Fuentes?

— Adam “Bluesky Says I’m Rude” Sessler 🇺🇦 (@adamsessler.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 12:18 PM

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— J. C. Cantwell 🌻 (@segfaultvicta.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 12:21 PM

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we'll see… the rubes are pretty stupid, the money is fucking insane and the motivation is sky high to find a mediocre white guy who can speak with different, but very similar groups of jizzstains while keeping a small number of whopping lies straight – not hard

— Wizzy Probs (@wizzyprobs.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 12:17 PM

oh i'm sure there'll be any *number* of tryhards milling about the space in Kirk's wake.
they're not going to be *him*, and everyone's going to know it. this was, like, the RFK getting shot of the right-wing hyper-online neo-nazi clade. he was their future.

— J. C. Cantwell 🌻 (@segfaultvicta.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 12:19 PM

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Dare I hope this might result in the end of actual power for these types of guys? Or is it too soon to know?

— Zoe (@zmcadler.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 2:54 PM

Lord, I hope so. I do think they *really* fucked themselves with this, my entire thesis is that this was an unrecoverable unforced error on their part, and I mean, I wanna be right, which means I have to resist motivated reasoning, but I also think I'm right, enough to be hopeful

— J. C. Cantwell 🌻 (@segfaultvicta.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 2:55 PM

Saturday Night Gutter Fights Open Thread: Rumble in the Reicht-Wing JunglePost + Comments (179)

Mistakes Were Made!

by WaterGirl|  September 13, 202511:07 pm| 81 Comments

This post is in: Food, Open Threads

Cold and Wet and No Energy – It Must Be Fall.
This is a JeffreyW photo, so amazing that it is the banner for the Food & Recipes topic here on BJ.

I am using this photo in honor of our beloved JeffreyW, who we recently lost.

Since somebody nearly screwed up their recipe on the Great British Baking Show this week by forgetting to add the flour to their cake mix.  Then I shared my mishap of forgetting to add eggs to the pumpkin pie – I highly recommend that you do not try that at home!

So I thought we might have some fun with a Mistakes Were Made! post.

This can be recipes gone bad.  Or the thing you forgot, or the ingredient you used thinking it was something else.  Or some recipe that you made up that did not turn out as you hoped.  Or the time you made your beautiful [whatever] and you dropped it or the dog ate it or one of the guest was allergic to it.

You get the idea, right!  If mistakes were made and it was related to food, or it’s food adjacent – maybe you weren’t even cooking at all, just some disaster while you were eating somewhere –  this is the place for it.

 

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War for Ukraine Day 1,297: There’s a Club, Ukraine Is, Unfortunately, Not in It

by Adam L Silverman|  September 13, 20258:44 pm| 21 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

A black and white cartoon with Popeye the Sailor Man facing forward and to the left. His word bubble says "I Yam Disgustipated"

There’s a club, unfortunately Ukraine is NOT in it!

Shots:

🇷🇺🇷🇴A Russian Shahed kamikaze drone has reportedly entered Romanian territory, according to monitoring channels.

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— 24Hours Ukraine (@24hoursukraine.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 12:05 PM

Is an air raid alert in Poland counts as a wake-up call for Europe?

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 12:47 PM

Chaser:

BREAKING: Poland and NATO scrambled fighter jets to monitor and intercept a Russian drone flown into Romania in latest provocation

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— SlavaUkraini033 (@slavaukraini033.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 12:03 PM

This isn’t a knock on Poland. The Commander of Poland’s Rapid Reaction Force is my former student and, frankly, as well as proudly, Poland and NATO are far, far, far safer as a result as he is on excellent general officer.

Unfortunately, Putin, in line with Lenin’s oft considered apocryphal maxim, is going to continnue to probe for mush.

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— Olena Halushka (@halushka.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 2:47 PM

President Zelenskyy met with, addressed, and presented awards to members of Ukraine’s film industry on their national day today. Here is the video of his address:

Here is his address from earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

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Anyone Seeking an End to This War Must Take the Necessary Steps to Halt Russia’s War Machine – Address by the President

13 September 2025 – 18:42

I wish you good health, fellow Ukrainians!

Today, I already had a meeting with Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council Rustem Umerov – following our Staff meeting, on the issue of drones, and following our agreements these weeks with partners.

It’s been an active period with many decisions. We need to ensure everything actually works. Just this week alone, three sanction packages were adopted by the United Kingdom, Japan, and New Zealand. The European Union extended personal sanctions. It is crucial that pressure on Russia continues and intensifies across all jurisdictions. And one of the key targets for our actions is Russian trade in oil and other energy resources. The sanctions – and our proposed sanctions serve as the basis for partners’ decisions – are aimed at the entire shadow fleet infrastructure: tanker captains, insurers, traders, and operators conducting business with Russia.

It is necessary, of course, to reduce the consumption of Russian oil, and this will definitely reduce Russia’s ability to fight. Much is being done, and the most effective are our long-range steps and the precision of Ukrainian warriors. The fastest-acting sanctions are the strikes by our warriors.

I also thank all our partners who intentionally limit procurements of Russian energy resources. Over the years of this war – and this is solely Russia’s war, Putin’s war – over this time, Europe has progressed from near-total dependence on Russian energy resources, especially gas, to a more autonomous life with diverse suppliers.

We can hear the position of the US, and this position should be heard by all who still choose supplies from Russia rather than from other partners. Anyone seeking an end to this war must take the necessary steps to halt Russia’s war machine. We are counting on strong steps from the United States, in cooperation with others – strong sanctions and tariff policies – which will serve as an argument for many around the world.

Everyone sees that Russia’s war against Ukraine is Putin’s war. Everyone sees that the Russian drones attacking Poland are also Putin’s war. And this is a warning not only to Poland but to all of Europe. Russian drones can travel much greater distances. This is already a very long war – a war of Russia’s ambitions, capabilities, and budget – and therefore a war of Russian oil, Russian gas, Russian uranium, and other Russian resources that fill Putin’s coffers.

I urge all partners to stop looking for excuses not to impose particular sanctions – all partners: Europe, the United States, the G7, and the G20 states. Peace is a path – one that must be taken from war to peace. Everyone must tread this path, and sanctions are part of it. If Putin does not want peace, he must be forced into it. Putin’s war will end when he – and only he – can no longer continue it. That is why strong sanctions against terminals shipping and receiving Russian oil are also necessary – and these could be among the greatest steps toward peace imaginable. A truly historic decision.

In Ukraine, we are doing everything possible on our side to reduce Russia’s ability to fight. Our deep strikes will intensify – financing and tasks for this are already in place. Diplomats are also actively working with all partners to reduce their trade ties with Russia. And we are coordinating our actions.

This week, talks were held with the President of Finland, and the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, the Italian President of the Council of Ministers, the Prime Minister of Poland, and the NATO Secretary General. I also spoke with the foreign ministers of the United Kingdom, Denmark, and Poland. I had a productive meeting with Keith Kellogg. I also met with security advisors from Germany, the UK, France, and Italy. And today, by the way, advisors from these countries, along with Chief of the Office Andriy Yermak, are in the Kharkiv region. And it is important that partners visit not only Kyiv but also our other cities and other communities.

A basic document on security guarantees for Ukraine – and therefore for all of our Europe – is practically ready. Details are being carefully finalized, and everything will be agreed upon with all our partners. So now, we need to pressure Russia toward ending hostilities, toward a meeting format that will be effective, toward a reliable ceasefire, so that Russia stops killings and strikes. And this is achievable. It is achievable only if we act together – everyone in Europe, as the war is closest here, but also together with America. For Putin, it is the United States that represents a real argument – along with other global actors. We also must not forget about Russian assets: everything already identified, which are substantial funds, must be used to defend and restore Ukraine. This is legitimate.

I also want to thank Sweden today: there is a new defense package from Sweden this week, worth more than 900 million dollars. Thank you.

Good results have also been achieved at the Ramstein meeting – particularly regarding air defense. Reports were delivered by Minister of Defense Denys Shmyhal, who participated in Ramstein, and we now must step up efforts on the Patriots this fall.

We are doing everything to defend Ukraine, and we are doing everything to protect Ukrainians. I thank everyone standing with Ukraine! I thank everyone who is helping us!

Glory to Ukraine!

Georgia:

The 5th President of Georgia, Salome Zourabishvili, is participating in today’s march.

#GeorgiaProtests
Day 290

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— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 12:19 PM

Georgia. It’s Day 290 of daily #GeorgiaProtests

The march is called “No to the Russian Regime! Protect the Visa-Free!”

At this point, the best the regime can hope for is just a little more time for their successful corrupt schemes.

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 12:37 PM

Day 290 of nonstop nationwide protests in Georgia. Huge crowds march to show GD does not represent the people—and to oppose the country’s turn away from the EU and the looming threat of visa-free suspension with Europe. 🇬🇪🇪🇺

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— Rusudan Djakeli (@rusudandjakeli.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 11:52 AM

Day 290 of #GeorgiaProtests

📷 jezko_fella

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 3:35 PM

My phone camera can’t do justice to today’s crowd in Georgia on Day 290 of nonstop protests. We march to reaffirm Georgia’s EU aspirations and defend visa-free travel with Europe. 🇬🇪🇪🇺

Here, we’ve stopped at GD’s new campaign offices.

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— Rusudan Djakeli (@rusudandjakeli.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 12:08 PM

“No to the Russian regime, defend visa-free travel” — a protest march is underway in Tbilisi. Due to GD’s anti-democratic actions, the EU may suspend visa-free travel with Georgia.

#GeorgiaProtests
Day 290

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— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 12:29 PM

Rustaveli Avenue blocked for the 290th day in a row. Protests continue in 8+ cities across Georgia. 🇬🇪

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— Rusudan Djakeli (@rusudandjakeli.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 12:47 PM

One more video from today’s protests – “Protect Visa-Free”, “No to the Russian Regime”.

#GeorgiaProtests
Day 290

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— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 3:36 PM

🟥 Saba Bakhia, founder of Balenciaga’s official support account @DemnaGram on Instagram, Threads, and the Chinese platform RED, opened his speech at the #AdBlackSea25 Festival in #Batumi by addressing the case of Mzia Amaglobeli and other political prisoners.

#Georgia
#GeorgiaProtests

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— Batumelebi&Netgazeti (@netgazeti.org) September 13, 2025 at 8:39 AM

Tbilisi City Court: UNM Political Council Chairman Levan Khabeishvili sentenced to imprisonment as a preventive measure. UNM member Murtaz Zodelava, arrested with him, released on 25,000 GEL bail. He has 30 days to pay.

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— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 3:29 PM

Democratic leader Elene Khoshtaria just touched the campaign banner of GD Mayor Kaladze in protest against female student Meggie Diasamieze’s the criminal proceedings. She simply wrote “Russian Dream” on the banner.

The police immediately took Helen off 🤡

#GeorgiaProtests

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 12:20 PM

Maggie is out on bail.

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— Rusudan Djakeli (@rusudandjakeli.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 10:08 AM

🗣️You want to send me – a father of eight, suffering from a concussion – into detention,” said Juansher Burchuladze, the former defense minister from the Georgian Dream cabinet, addressing the judge after prosecutors requested pre-trial detention as a restrictive measure against him.

#Georgia

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— Batumelebi&Netgazeti (@netgazeti.org) September 13, 2025 at 10:27 AM

‪Burchuladze was ordered to two months of pre-trial detention‬.

— Batumelebi&Netgazeti (@netgazeti.org) September 13, 2025 at 10:49 AM

In the last 1.5 years alone, the Georgian society has passed through so many layers:

A colourful awakening;

Saying goodbye to any hopes in elections;

Hope in the combo of protests, international isolation & sanctions;

Agreement on the need of a revolution. – We are here.

— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 6:36 AM

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 9:35 AM

The protests in 🇬🇪 are against the Russian regime & for 🇬🇪’s freedom & 🇪🇺 future, of course, but it also entails the deep sentiment that the former social contract isn’t working – people no longer want this rampant nepotism, elite impunity, elite corruption, nepotism, & all the matters post-Soviet. 1/3

— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 5:36 AM

While poverty is a major factor, the drive is still more about equality before law and transparent governance, which, in turn, would alleviate poverty levels too.

I think this period is a structural crisis when the old is delegitimized but the new isn’t here yet. 2/3

— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 5:36 AM

And this is actually why it’s just such a hard and prolonged process – clans can no longer just change sides, and everyone who’s robbed the public in the 35 years of restored independence is too scared of the wave of changes, hoping it’s avoided.

But it’s inevitable.

#GeorgiaProtests 3/3.

— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 5:36 AM

It’s more than obvious that at some point Georgians will be out again in hundreds of thousands. And this time, regime pillars can’t afford to think that “it will just pass.” #GeorgiaProtests

— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 4:09 PM

Kaliningrad:

⚡ First, the orcs announce military exercises near Poland. Then they attack its territory with drones. Then the Russian Foreign Ministry demands that the border with Belarus be opened. And now they are simply deploying Iskander missiles near the Polish border in the Kaliningrad region.

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— Vitalis Viva (@vitalisviva.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 1:57 PM

Romania:

/1. Romanian Ministry of Defense has made a statement that Russian drone which was flying in Romanian airspace was not intercepted. The drone was escorted till it left Romanian airspace and went to Ukraine.

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 7:28 PM

/2. According to official Ukrainian data, the drone entered the territory of Romania at a distance of about 10 kilometers and operated in the airspace of a NATO country for about 50 minutes. www.antena3.ro/actualitate/…

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 7:29 PM

Well that was right neighborly of Romania.

NATO:

NATO has launched exercises in Lithuania under “Grand Eagle 25” to train rapid troop deployment.

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 9:19 AM

The US:

At the YES 2025 Conference in Kyiv, U.S. envoy Keith Kellogg called Ukraine the global leader in drone technologies, stating the U.S. is “seriously behind.” He rejected comparisons to South Vietnam, saying Ukraine will endure as a state.

— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 2:43 PM

Kellogg also said the war could end “tomorrow” if China halted support to Russia.

— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 2:43 PM

I know Trump is Trump. I know he says things that are bizarre and untrue.

But reading about the “Zelenskyy’s war” again isn’t just upsetting, it’s infuriating. People here die every day In a war russia started and continues, yet somehow it’s blamed on us. It’s tragic.

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 10:57 AM

This is largely gibberish. It is also not how NATO works.

Huge banner that says “get nukes”

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— Mira of Kyiv 🇺🇦 (@reshetz.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 10:29 AM

A black and white picture of the Three Stooges. They are wearing hats, seated at a table, and all 3 are face palming themselves so that you cannot see their faces. The caption says: Triple Face Palm Because Even the Three Stooges Can See That You Fail.

Turkiye:

Russia has reportedly approached Turkey with a proposal to buy back the S-400 systems that were delivered to Ankara in 2019. The two systems were purchased by Turkey for $2.5 billion in 2017. militarnyi.com/uk/news/rosi…

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 5:15 AM

Back to Ukraine.

Roman Kostenko, MP and secretary of the parliamentary committee on national security, defense and intelligence, said a Russian strike on the Verkhovna Rada is likely and only a matter of time. If it happens during a session, the country could become non-functional, the official warned.

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 11:04 AM

❗️Just now, Birds of Magyar unit intercepted Rusian Orion UAV

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 2:29 PM

Requests had come from Poland, as well as from companies in Germany, Denmark, and the Baltic states, to purchase Ukrainian interceptor drones that Ukraine produces following the recent Russian attack with dozens of drones on Poland. kyivindependent.com/europe-scram…

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 5:21 AM

Kyiv:

🙏🇺🇦 Prince Harry at the Alley of Fallen Heroes in Kyiv.

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— Vitalis Viva (@vitalisviva.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 8:20 AM

Prince Harry in Kyiv. ❤️‍🩹

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 7:08 AM

During his visit to Kyiv, Prince Harry met with Ukrainian Prime Minister Yuliia Svyrydenko to discuss veteran rehabilitation. Svyrydenko showed him the site of the recent Iskander strike on the Cabinet building and said Ukraine hopes to one day host the Invictus Games.

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 3:46 AM

Kyiv Oblast:

Series of explosions in Kyiv Oblast south of Kyiv city in Hlevakha/Vasylikiv area – reports it was at oil/gas facility. Ajr base is also in vicinity. No air alerts in Kyiv Oblast at time of blasts or now.

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— Euan MacDonald (@euanmacdonald.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 5:52 PM

*Vasylkiv

— Euan MacDonald (@euanmacdonald.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 5:56 PM

*Air base

— Euan MacDonald (@euanmacdonald.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 5:56 PM

Kostiantynivka:

For nearly an hour, russian artillery and Smerch rockets pounded the residential streets of Kostiantynivka. The city, once full of life, is being methodically erased. Three more people were killed today. Seven others were injured.

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— Iryna Voichuk (@irynavoichuk.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 7:12 PM

Kupyansk:

Exactly three years after Kupiansk was liberated from russian occupation, russian forces are reportedly advancing into its residential areas…

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— Iryna Voichuk (@irynavoichuk.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 5:17 AM

According to DeepState, Russian forces used a gas pipeline to cross the Oskil River and reach Kupiansk. This is the third recorded case of infiltration via pipelines, following similar incidents near Avdiivka and Sudzha.

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 3:08 AM

Ukraine’s General Staff says Kupiansk and its outskirts remain under AFU control. Three of four infiltration pipelines are damaged or flooded, the fourth is monitored. Counter-sabotage actions continue. Russian losses in the area reached 395 in two weeks, including 288 killed.

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 6:45 AM

Odesa:

🌅🎹 Langeron, the golden edge of the sea, and the first chords of “Piano sunrise.” Today, Boris Johnson 🇬🇧 is here with us. This is how a city that chooses life sounds. Odesa 🇺🇦 knows how to make the morning special.

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— Vitalis Viva (@vitalisviva.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 6:26 AM

Russian occupied Luhansk Oblast:

/1. According to the “Dosye Shpiona” over the past day, there have been reports of the destruction of two “Pantsir-S1” systems. The statement of this source is usually confirmed later.

The first case occurred in the city of Lugansk. Around 02:00, by a “RAM-2X” UAV.

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 7:31 AM

The second attack took place in the village of Snizhne, Donetsk region. A “Pantsir-S1” was also destroyed. The type of UAV is unknown.

t.me/dosye_shpion…

— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 7:31 AM

Russian occupied Crimea:

Fire broke out today at the Hvardiiske airfield in Crimea, reports the “Crimean Wind” monitoring group citing satellite imagery. It started after Russian authorities declared a drone alert on the peninsula. A fire also hit Russian air defense positions near Olenivka.

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 1:01 PM

Donetsk Oblast:

In Donetsk region, border guards from Ukraine’s “Pomsta” Brigade are using Soviet-era S-60 anti-aircraft guns against Russian aerial targets. The system has proven effective against Shahed drones and other enemy aircraft, giving the old weapon a new role in modern warfare.

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 8:30 AM

Lyman, Russian occupied Donetsk Oblast:

On 11 September 2025, Ukraine’s SIGNUM Battalion eliminated a Russian unit and destroyed its logistics support in the Lyman sector.

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 3:18 AM

Republic of Bashkortostan, Russia:

Ufa, Russia.

A good drone struck Novo-Ufa Oil Refinery.

Almost 1400 kilometers away from the frontline 👀🔥

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 8:55 AM

More from oil refinery in Ufa, Russia 🔥

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 9:14 AM

🔥🛢️Just now, Novo-Ufa Oil Refinery with the capacity of 7,5mln tons of oil per year was attacked by drones in Ufa, Russia. Novo-Ufa Oil Refinery is located more 1350km from the frontline.

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 8:53 AM

/2. Drone which targeted Russian oil refinery in Ufa.

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 8:58 AM

/3. Unmanned A-22 Foxbat on its way to Novo-Ufa oil refinery before the strike

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 9:16 AM

Researchers from CyberBoroshno report that the strike on the Bashneft-Novoil refinery in Ufa damaged a key transfer overpass. Likely consequences include a halt in crude movement between tanks and units, failure of automation systems, and partial shutdowns to localize the incident.

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 10:31 AM

Oryol Oblast, Russia:

Meanwhile, Russian media report an explosion on a railway line in Oryol region.

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 12:09 PM

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Open Thread: Lisa Cook Is Not A Crook

by Anne Laurie|  September 13, 20256:08 pm| 141 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Open Threads, Trump Crime Cartel, Lock Him Up...Lock Them All Up

“.. The document appears to counter other documentation that Cook’s critics have cited in support of their claims that she committed mortgage fraud ..”
@reuters.com
www.reuters.com/world/us/fed…

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— Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 6:21 PM

… Unlike the Squatter-in-Chief, and his block-headed minion Bill Pulte:

A loan estimate for an Atlanta home purchased by Lisa Cook, the Federal Reserve governor accused of mortgage fraud by the Trump administration, shows that Cook had declared the property as a “vacation home,” according to a document reviewed by Reuters.

The document, dated May 28, 2021, was issued to Cook by her credit union in the weeks before she completed the purchase and shows that she had told the lender that the Atlanta property wouldn’t be her primary residence. The document appears to counter other documentation that Cook’s critics have cited in support of their claims that she committed mortgage fraud by reporting two different homes as her primary residence, two independent real-estate experts said…

Administration officials led by Bill Pulte, director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, have used mortgage documents from her Atlanta and Michigan properties to accuse Cook of claiming both as her “primary residence.” The allegedly false claims of residence, which could improve mortgage and tax implications for a homeowner, led Pulte to refer the matter to the Department of Justice, prompting a federal investigation and an order by President Donald Trump to dismiss her.

Cook, who remains at the Federal Reserve, has sued the president to resist her dismissal. Reuters was unable to determine whether Pulte or administration officials are aware of Cook’s Atlanta loan estimate. Spokespeople at the FHFA, the agency led by Pulte, didn’t respond to a request for comment.

The documents cited by Pulte include standardized federal mortgage paperwork which stipulates that each loan obtained by Cook for the Atlanta and Michigan properties is meant for a “primary residence.” But documentation reviewed by Reuters for the Atlanta home, filed with a court in Georgia’s Fulton County, clearly says the stipulation exists “unless Lender otherwise agrees in writing.” The loan estimate, a document prepared by the credit union, states “Property Use: Vacation Home.”…

In another point that could help Cook’s case, she never requested a tax exemption for the Georgia home as a primary residence, according to property records and a Fulton County tax official.

A separate document reviewed by Reuters, related to a federal form completed by Cook as she obtained security clearance for her role at the Federal Reserve, shows that in December 2021 she also declared the Atlanta property as a “2nd home.” Though unrelated to the mortgage, the declaration on that document, a supplement to a U.S. government national security form known as SF-86, is consistent with the claim on her Atlanta loan summary…

Last week, Reuters reported that Pulte’s own father and stepmother had declared two homes in two different states as their primary residence, prompting a town in Michigan to remove a tax exemption for their home there and charge the couple for back taxes. Pulte and his parents didn’t respond to requests for comment about the matter.

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So Pulte accidentally implicated three Trump cabinet members and his own dad, but not the black woman he was trying to help Trump fire.

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— Radley Balko (@radleybalko.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 7:47 AM

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more exonerating evidence
Unlike her hypocritical persecutor, Lisa Cook paid her taxes
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025…

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— Prof Dynarski (@dynarski.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 12:21 PM

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Fed governor Lisa Cook listed contested home as vacation property on.ft.com/46hiIu7

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— Financial Times (@financialtimes.com) September 12, 2025 at 8:23 PM

Federal Reserve governor Lisa Cook, who US President Donald Trump wants to fire for alleged mortgage fraud, declared on multiple documents that an Atlanta condominium at the centre of the controversy was a vacation home.

The documents, seen by the Financial Times, appear to contradict allegations by Federal Housing Finance Agency director Bill Pulte, a Trump ally and frequent critic of the central bank, that Cook had claimed the Atlanta condo and another property in Michigan were both her principal residences….

Cook — a Joe Biden appointee — joined the Fed in 2022, becoming the first black woman to serve as a governor.

While Cook is yet to be charged over the allegations, Trump moved to fire her last month, saying the evidence presented by the FHFA director was enough to warrant her removal “for cause” — a term that has rarely been tested in court but is usually interpreted as gross misconduct.

Cook is suing Trump in a landmark case that is expected to test the central bank’s independence from the executive branch.

A Washington federal court judge earlier this week ruled Cook could return to the Fed while her court battle with Trump was continuing, saying she had made a “strong showing” that the move to remove her violates the laws governing the central bank…

Cook’s lawyers have denied the allegations of mortgage fraud and have claimed Trump’s actions are motivated by his desire for lower borrowing costs and more control over the central bank.

The president and his allies have been vocal critics of the Fed, branding chair Jay Powell a “numbskull” who has been “too late” to cut interest rates.

Removing Cook would bring the number of Trump-appointed governors to four — a majority on the seven-strong board.

A majority would not only give the president greater sway over interest rates, but also the appointment of the 12 chairs of the regional Feds and decisions on the central bank’s governance and oversight.

The Fed has kept interest rates on hold at 4.25 per cent to 4.5 per cent since December, partly on the back of concerns Trump’s trade war will spark another wave of inflation…

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Lisa Cook for Federal Reserve Chair

— Bennett Tomlin (@bft.wtf) September 12, 2025 at 6:58 PM

I think she would be a federal reserve chair with a greater respect for the employment part of the mandate and I care way more about that part

— Bennett Tomlin (@bft.wtf) September 12, 2025 at 7:01 PM

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Open Thread: Goodbye, Charlie

by Anne Laurie|  September 13, 20253:21 pm| 176 Comments

This post is in: Grifters Gonna Grift, Open Threads, Republican Politics, Trumpery

“What Charlie Kirk, I think, kind of patented almost was the ability to do this and seem likeable, friendly, open,” said @radiofreetom.bsky.social.
“Kirk kind of pioneered this smiling version of MAGA that, you know, you don’t really see very often among a lot of MAGA supporters.”
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— Washington Week with The Atlantic (@washingtonweekpbs.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 8:20 PM

Murphy the Trickster God willing, this will be background noise by Monday, but I’m in favor of reminding the normies just how weird and dangerous Charlie Kirk — not to mention the rest of the Very Online Reicht Wing — really are.

(Remember — Sharing is caring!)

This essay has been getting a certain amount of well-deserved attention. Elizabeth Spiers, at the Nation — “Charlie Kirk’s Legacy Deserves No Mourning”:

… Many of the facile defenses of Kirk and his legacy are predicated on the idea that it’s acceptable to spread hateful ideas advocating for the persecution of perceived enemies as long you dress them up in a posture of debate. This is just class privilege. The man who said, “Black women do not have brain processing power to be taken seriously. You have to go steal a white person’s slot” said it while wearing a nice shirt and a tie on a podcast instead of tattered overalls in the parking lot of a rural Walmart. That does not make it any less racist.

It’s true that we cannot know what was in Charlie Kirk’s heart because we are not telepathic. But we can make reasonable inferences based on the things he said and did publicly because we are also not colossally stupid. He built a large following, and acquired real political power saying these things—to young people, to the president and his minions, to deep-pocket right-wing donors—and there are far too many people who have been ready to suggest that he was able to do this through a combination of natural charisma and good old-fashioned hard work. Speaking about and addressing the late Texas Representative Sheila Jackson Lee, who is Black, he said, “It’s very obvious to us you are not smart enough to be able to get it on your own. ‘I could not make it on my own, so I needed to take opportunities from someone more deserving.’” Kirk was smart enough to ask his father for a check when wanted to found Turning Point, and had always been happy to curtail opportunities for more deserving people when they failed to conform to his own ideology.

It’s this that makes it particularly galling to see him cast by some as a free-speech warrior. He created a professor watchlist explicitly designed to get academics fired who dared talk about the right’s usual assortment of verboten topics—anything to do with race or gender, in particular. He also offered the standard right-wing plaint about left-wing indoctrination in American universities even as he went on campus tours trying to indoctrinate young people into his hard-right Christian nationalist worldview…

Some of the people valorizing Kirk insist that all of his toxicity was acceptable because at least he was open to debate—a bar so low, you’d have to dig into the Mariana Trench to get to it. And he certainly paid lip service to it. “We record all of it so that we put [it] on the Internet so people can see these ideas collide,” he said of his own streaming operation. “When people stop talking, that’s when you get violence. That’s when civil war happens, because you start to think the other side is so evil, and they lose their humanity.”

But Kirk’s actions undercut that notion every day. His entire business was saying the other side was evil and dehumanizing them. The debates were simply performances, and he could not have an entertaining public fight without opposition. Turning Point did not work to bring people together; it worked to bring about a country where anyone who wasn’t a white Christian nationalist wasn’t welcome. I won’t celebrate his death, but I’m not obligated to celebrate his life, either.

They’re just going to scream over the facts, as loudly and often as it takes.

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— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 9:07 PM


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Charlie Kirk called Floyd a scumbag and spread the false claim Floyd died from an overdose so I’m not exactly sure what this is supposed to mean

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— Normal One (@normalatty.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 11:14 PM

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Samer Kalaf. at Defector — “This Is Who Charlie Kirk Was”:

… In the last couple years, Kirk was no longer a youth speaking to his peers, but a man in his 30s who still traveled from campus to campus in order to pick on college students for engagement. He stuck to this level of competition because he often found it more difficult with older foes. Kirk was both carnival barker and dunk-tank clown, telling anyone to step right up and “Prove Me Wrong.” He would size up an opponent his audience was primed to recognize as the blue-haired freak or pro-Palestine idiot, then try to make them look stupid for the assembled crowd, as well as any internet user unfortunate enough to stumble upon his work. His YouTube videos offered wish fulfillment to those who couldn’t win arguments themselves, with algorithm-friendly titles such as “Charlie Kirk VS the Wokies at University of Tennessee,” “Charlie Kirk Hands Out Huge L’s at University of California San Diego,” and “Charlie Takes Down Extremely Bouncy Cambridge Student.”

From time to time at these campus events, the person at the mic would reveal—directly or indirectly—their own aspirations to build a career like Kirk’s. In this way, his tour functioned as a sadder version of a reality competition: It was unlikely that they would win, but maybe they could at least squeeze a little clout out of it. Kirk’s participation was for a similar reason. He wasn’t just trying to lure more young voters to conservatism with free hats and epic leftist fails, but to boost his own status as well. The less famous participant in this type of conversation was at least more transparent about it.

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It’s important to be specific about what Kirk argued for when he was holding a microphone. He hated Muslims. He hated trans people. He referred to the Civil Rights Act as a “huge mistake.” He supported Israel and its role in the Gaza genocide. When asked in a debate if he would support an abortion for his 10-year-old daughter if she had become pregnant due to rape, he said he would make her carry the baby to term. He saw minorities as inferior, immigration as poisonous to the United States, and gun violence as a necessary price of preserving a perverted vision of freedom. “I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights,” Kirk said at an event in 2023. “That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe.”…

In the same way that so many institutions capitulated to rolling back diversity initiatives or further suppressing pro-Palestine speech after Trump took office, there is now a rush to present Kirk as something he wasn’t. He was not trying to spread healthy debate across the country, or “practicing politics in exactly the right way,” as [Ezra] Klein wrote. A sense of pundit class solidarity, or simple dimwittedness, may have prevented Klein from accurately describing Kirk’s beliefs, but those who Kirk actually spent his life speaking to will have had no such trouble. Kirk wanted to show the younger generation that it was popular and noble to ridicule those who were fighting for dignity, to take their rights away. He argued to bring in more guns and resentment, and let there be suffering in the interest of America first. He was not shy or euphemistic about any of this.

It makes sense that right-wing provocateurs who work to make the world worse would mourn one of their own. There is no obligation for anyone else to accept the false premise that political violence is equally bad on both sides, or that conservatives are the ones protecting the sanctity of free speech. Who would be credulous enough to agree to disagree, when the State Department is vowing to target any immigrants who use their free speech in a way unpalatable to the right wing?…

They don’t care that Charlie Kirk died. They don’t care that his killer is found and punished. All they care about is having a narrative that will stir anger and open wallets.

— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 8:22 PM

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"On the last episode of his show before he was killed," Kirk told "his audience, falsely, that “one in 22 Black men will be a murderer in their lifetime” and that “by age of 23, half of all Black males have been arrested and not enough of them have been arrested.”

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— Barred and Boujee aka Madiba Dennie (@audrelawdamercy.bsky.social) September 13, 2025 at 2:06 PM

Jamelle Bouie, at the NYTimes — “Charlie Kirk Didn’t Shy Away From Who He Was. We Shouldn’t Either.” [gift link]:

… There is no doubt that Kirk was influential, no doubt that he had millions of devoted fans. But it is difficult to square this idealized portrait of Kirk as model citizen with the man as he was.

Kirk’s eulogists have praised him for his commitment to discourse, dialogue and good-faith discussion. Few if any of them have seen fit to mention the fact that Kirk’s first act on the national stage was to create a McCarthyite watchlist of college and university professors, lecturers and academics. Kirk urged visitors to the website to report those who “discriminate against conservative students and advance leftist propaganda in the classroom.”

The list, which still exists, is a catalog of speech acts in and outside the classroom. The surest way to find yourself on the watchlist as an academic is to disagree, publicly, with conservative ideology, or even acknowledge ideas and concepts that are verboten among the far right. And the obvious intent of the list is made clear at the end of each entry, where Kirk and his allies urge readers to contact the schools and institutions in question. Targets of the watchlist attest to harassment and threats of violence.

To speak of Kirk as a champion of reasoned discussion is also to ignore his frequent calls for the state suppression of his political opponents.

“‘Investigate first, define the crimes later’ should be the order of the day,” Kirk declared in an editorial demanding the legal intimidation of anyone associated with the political left. “And for even the most minor of offenses, the rule should be: no charity, no goodwill, no mercy.”

Speaking last year in support of Trump’s plan for mass deportation, Kirk warned that the incoming president would not tolerate dissent or resistance. “Playtime is over. And if a Democrat gets in our way, well, then Matt Gaetz very well might go arrest you,” he said.

It is also important to mention that Kirk was a powerful voice in support of Trump’s effort to “stop the steal” after the 2020 presidential election. His organization, Turning Point USA, went as far as to bus participants to Washington for the rally that devolved into the Jan. 6 riot attack on the Capitol…

Kirk told his listeners that Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson of the Supreme Court “is what your country looks like on critical race theory,” that former Vice President Kamala Harris was “the jive speaking spokesperson of equity,” and that the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. “was awful.”

“I have a very, very radical view on this, but I can defend it, and I’ve thought about it,” Kirk said at a 2023 event. “We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s.”…

It is sometimes considered gauche, in the world of American political commentary, to give words the weight of their meaning. As this thinking goes, there might be real belief, somewhere, in the provocations of our pundits, but much of it is just performance, and it doesn’t seem fair to condemn someone for the skill of putting on a good show.

But Kirk was not just putting on a show. He was a dedicated proponent of a specific political program. He was a champion for an authoritarian politics that backed the repression of opponents and made light of violence against them. And you can see Kirk’s influence everywhere in the Trump administration, from its efforts to strip legal recognition from transgender Americans to its anti-diversity purge of the federal government…

[the shooter is unidentified] the left must be purged with the sword
[the shooter is, again, a compulsive masturbator who loved Hitler] I believe it was pascal who said that the heart has reasons that reason may not know

— CHOAM Nomsky (@samthielman.com) September 12, 2025 at 5:22 PM

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Stephen Miller: “The last message that Charlie Kirk gave to me before he joined his creator in heaven was he said that we have to dismantle and take on the radical left organizations in this country that are fomenting violence. That was the last message that he sent me … we are gonna do that.”
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— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) September 12, 2025 at 9:44 PM

Part of the problem of being a courtier in a court system is you basically can’t sleep.a
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— Schnorkles O’Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 11:25 PM

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Kirk didn’t serve in the military or hold office. The war hero treatment — half-mast flags, military guard, Air Force Two escort, calls for a statue at the Capitol or to lie in the Rotunda — shows that for MAGA, service to Trump has become the highest, most honorable form of service.

— Radley Balko (@radleybalko.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 12:38 PM

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Mike Lee: “They just created a million, 10 million, 100 million Charlie Kirks. They haven’t seen anything yet.”
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— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) September 12, 2025 at 8:56 PM

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“Don’t you DARE call us Nazis.”
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— Berny Belvedere (@bernybelvedere.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 9:35 AM

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So, a mouthy Republican white supremacist was killed by another Republican white supremacist, at the behest of a third Republican white supremacist, using guns Republicans want widely available in a state where Republicans welcome guns on campuses
And somehow Republicans want to blame Democrats?
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— Democrats In Array Thanks Joe Biden (@demsinarray.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 3:09 PM

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Fuentes is a sick fuck followed by an army of sick fucks.
They call themselves Groypers.
It’s good to learn about them because we will ALL be dealing with them.
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— JennyBeeFightsFascists🐝🟦✡️🎗️💛🕊️🪩🌟 (@benbennybee.bsky.social) September 12, 2025 at 11:17 PM

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— Mayor of Crazy Town (@sunmonkey23.bsky.social) September 11, 2025 at 9:11 PM

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Otters! Courtesy of Dangerman

by WaterGirl|  September 13, 20251:43 pm| 29 Comments

This post is in: Nature & Respite, Open Threads

A bit of otter respite, courtesy of Dangerman.

be sure to turn the sound up.

And make sure you have some playtime this weekend.

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Some Lives Apparently Matter More Than Others

by WaterGirl|  September 13, 202511:36 am| 127 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, The Horrors

Is anyone else already tired of talking about Charlie Kirk?

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The administration starts the fire and then are shocked when it burns.  Repeat.

I am aware of the troubling incident that has unfolded in Franklin Park.

This is a developing situation and the people of Illinois deserve a full, factual accounting of what’s happened today to ensure transparency and accountability.

— Governor JB Pritzker (@govpritzker.illinois.gov) September 12, 2025 at 2:03 PM

ICE officer fatally shoots man during traffic stop in Chicago suburb.  (Chicago Sun-Times)

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers were conducting “targeted law enforcement activity” in Franklin Park when they stopped the vehicle, according to a statement from the agency.

Pritzker said he was “aware of the troubling incident that has unfolded in Franklin Park.

“This is a developing situation and the people of Illinois deserve a full, factual accounting of what’s happened today to ensure transparency and accountability,” Pritzker said in a statement.

The Resurrection Project, a community advocacy group, said the “horrific incident in Franklin Park shows us the real danger that militarized enforcement creates in our neighborhoods.

“A community member is dead, and an officer was injured,” Erendira Rendón, a leader with the group, said in a statement. “These are outcomes that serve no public safety purpose and leave entire communities traumatized. Safe neighborhoods depend on trust, not fear. When federal agents conduct unaccountable operations in our communities, everyone becomes less safe.”

Federal officials said the man had a “history of reckless driving.”

The only Cook County cases for a man with the shooting victim’s name are for traffic violations. He has four cases dating back to 2010, according to court records.

The most recent was in 2019 for operating an uninsured vehicle. The case was thrown out within a month. The other three citations are for speeding, driving with an expired license and again operating an uninsured vehicle.

There have been reports of traffic stops by immigration authorities this week in the suburbs. Legal experts say ICE officers generally don’t have the authority to stop a vehicle unless they have specific reasonable suspicion that the person in the car has violated immigration law.

Officials and advocates in the Los Angeles area said federal immigration officers were targeting people in vehicles there. A U.S. Customs and Border Protection officer fired his gun during a traffic stop in San Bernardino, Calif., last month, and the family in that case said officers didn’t identify themselves before breaking their car windows.

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Federal immigration agents fatally shot a man Friday morning in the Northwest suburbs after he allegedly attempted to flee a traffic stop and struck an officer with his car, officials said.

The shooting comes days after President Donald Trump’s long-promised immigration enforcement campaign launched in the Chicago area earlier this week, generating widespread fear in immigrant communities in the city and suburbs.

A neighbor who knew the shooting victim described him to the Chicago Sun-Times as a family man who he imagined was scared when confronted by officers — in part because he wasn’t fluent in English. Gov. JB Pritzker called for a “full, factual” accounting of what led to the shooting.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers were conducting “targeted law enforcement activity” in Franklin Park when they stopped the vehicle, according to a statement from the agency.

During the stop, a man allegedly resisted arrest and attempted to drive his car into officers, dragging one officer, according to the statement.

The officer opened fire and shot the man, the statement said. The man was taken to an area hospital where he was pronounced dead, the statement said.

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security has identified the man as Silverio Villegas-Gonzalez. The Cook County medical examiner’s office has not yet identified him.

The officer was also taken to a hospital with “severe injuries.” His condition has stabilized, according to the statement.

“We are praying for the speedy recovery of our law enforcement officer,” a DHS spokesperson said. “He followed his training, used appropriate force, and properly enforced the law to protect the public and law enforcement.”

FBI agents were at the scene Friday assisting in the response, the agency confirmed. The FBI hasn’t provided any additional information on its investigation.

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