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Gabbard is their kook, not ours (open thread)

by Betty Cracker|  January 27, 202512:24 pm| 94 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity

Okay, this is a steaming load of horse shit:

Tulsi Gabbard grew up in a secretive offshoot of the Hare Krishna movement and has made a dizzying political journey from anti-gay conservative to Democratic Party star to a celebrity in President Trump’s world.

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— The New York Times (@nytimes.com) January 27, 2025 at 11:06 AM

I don’t remember Tulsi Gabbard ever being a “Democratic Party star,” so I clicked through to see what evidence the Times cited for her alleged stardom. Here it is:

Telegenic, a veteran and the House’s first Hindu member, she arrived in Washington in 2013 and was soon a Democratic star. She grew close to the liberal commentator Van Jones, befriended Senator Cory Booker of New Jersey and posed with a surfboard for Vogue. In her first year in office she was awarded a Democratic National Committee vice chairmanship.

Lots of Democrats (rightly) think Van Jones is a blithering ninny. Cory Booker is famously friends with everybody. And Gabbard was probably awarded a DNC vice chairmanship for the same reason Vogue wanted the photo shoot with the surfboard.

My point is, DNC vice chairmanship doesn’t signify party stardom. Some DNC vice chairs are “Democratic Party stars.” For example, I think Gretchen Whitmer qualifies. Others I’d never heard of until today, and I follow party politics fairly closely.

In any case, Gabbard resigned from the DNC a few years later and endorsed Bernie Sanders. When that didn’t pan out, she went sucking up to Team Trump in 2016 on behalf of recently deposed Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad, which rightly appalled and alarmed Democrats. She launched a quixotic run for president herself in 2019, gaining very little support, despite being an alleged “Democratic Party star.”

Hillary Clinton called Gabbard a “Russian asset” in 2019. That’s what transformed Gabbard into a Trump “celebrity,” as the Times calls her.

I don’t know why this “Democratic Party star” thing pisses me off so much. Grading on the Times curve, it’s a small thing. But it contains a both-sides lie that is harmful. Gabbard is a fucking KOOK, and she’s the Republicans’ kook, not ours. Democrats recognized and disowned her for her erratic behavior. So she switched sides and joined the party of crazies.

PS: The Times also declines to forthrightly call the rabidly anti-gay “secretive offshoot of the Hare Krishna movement” in which Gabbard was raised a cult. Instead, the article limply notes that “some critics” call it a cult, even while recounting ex-cult members stories about “disciples” sprinkling the cult founder’s toenail clippings on their food.

What more evidence do they need that it’s a cult? Jesus. Also, sorry if you’re eating lunch.

Open thread.

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Monday Morning Open Thread: Trump’s War on Breakfast

by Anne Laurie|  January 27, 20256:36 am| 269 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Show Us on the Doll Where the Invisible Hand Touched You

This cat is all of us, trying to get to the end of fucking January.

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— Paul Bronks (@slendersherbet.bsky.social) January 25, 2025 at 12:41 PM


(At least SlenderSherbet is on BlueSky!… )
 

Looked at the comments of a local news station’s post about egg prices and everyone was roasting Trump, including blaming deportations. A good reminder that people being ambient mad about everything really does cut both ways.

— Cooper Lund (@cooperlund.online) January 23, 2025 at 11:50 PM


(*Almost* everybody… )
Monday Morning Open Thread 24

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— GOLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachine.com) January 25, 2025 at 7:11 PM

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The price of a dozen eggs is out of control. What’s being done to bring down costs for hardworking American families?

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— Tony Moonbeam II (@moonbeamii.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 3:19 PM

tariffs on colombian coffee, egg supply dwindling, orange farmers walking off the job…

Donald Trump is waging a War on Breakfast pic.twitter.com/3ll8rHgHNR

— Cameron (@CameronCorduroy) January 26, 2025

Does anyone know where I can find some $3 – $4 Harris eggs? pic.twitter.com/gwt2vbupoL

— scha·den·freu·de (@BlisterPearl) January 26, 2025

The Year of the Snake starts on Wednesday, which means the celebrations & banquets start tomorrow night. Snakes have a better reputation in Asia than over here, I’m told, but it has been a while since the Oval Office Occupant recited his rally favorite “You Knew What I Was When You Took Me In”, for some reason…
STOCKPILE - 2025, Year of the Snake

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War for Ukraine Day 1,068: Russia Unleashes Glide Bombs on Kupyansk

by Adam L Silverman|  January 26, 20257:10 pm| 14 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

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The Russians unloaded on Kupyansk today.

Kupyansk was nearly intact after its liberation by Ukrainian forces, but since then, Russia has been systematically destroying it day by day. Mostly elderly people remain, knowing they cannot build a new life elsewhere

Today, during the bombings, Russia destroyed 4 houses and injured an 86 yo woman

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 9:58 AM

Russia sent a guided aerial bomb to Kupyansk in Kharkiv region today to injure this elderly woman and damage her house.

My heart bleeds for our elderly generation, who have already endured so much, and now face bombings and the destruction simply because russia wants to be terrorists.

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 10:52 AM

Kupyansk in Kharkiv region today, after the russian glide bomb attack.

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 12:38 PM

The reason:

💙💛 The father knelt down, and the son, small but so dear, threw himself into his arms. Strong hands clutch the fragile body, as if afraid to let go, as if afraid it were a dream.

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— Vitalis Viva (@vitalisviva.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 7:30 AM

Here is President Zelenskyy’s address from earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

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Today, I Ordered a Strengthening of the Command Structure of Our Forces in the Donetsk Region – Address by the President

26 January 2025 – 21:30

I wish you health, fellow Ukrainians!

Today, there were numerous military briefings with commanders, as well as a conversation with Ukraine’s Minister of Defense, focused on the situation at the front, our key directions in the Donetsk region, and the areas of the Kursk operation. Soon, it will be six months of our active operations in the Kursk region aimed at protecting Ukrainian land. We are maintaining a buffer zone on Russian territory to safeguard our Sumy and Kharkiv from Russian offensives. I thank all our warriors who defend Ukrainian positions and destroy the occupiers. Today, I would especially like to commend the warriors of the 95th Separate Brigade for their actions in the Kursk region, as well as the warriors of the 25th Separate Airborne Brigade and the 68th Separate Jaeger Brigade for their effectiveness in the Pokrovsk direction. Additionally, I recognize the 24th and 100th Separate Mechanized Brigades for their heroism in battles for Chasiv Yar and Toretsk. Thank you, warriors!

Today, I ordered a strengthening of the command structure of our forces in the Donetsk region. Major General Mykhailo Drapatyi has been assigned to lead the operational-strategic group of troops “Khortytsia.” These are the most intense areas of combat. At the same time, Drapatyi will retain his authority as Commander of the Land Forces – the largest component of our Armed Forces – which will help combine the army’s combat operations with the proper training of brigades. The specific needs of the front must determine the standards for equipping and training brigades. Major General Andriy Hnatov has been assigned to the General Staff as Deputy Chief of the General Staff. His task is to establish a new level of operational headquarters preparation and to improve the quality of coordination between headquarters and the front. These and several other changes were discussed today with Commander-in-Chief Oleksandr Syrskyi – tasks have been set at all levels.

And one more thing.

I want to thank all Ukrainian developers and manufacturers of long-range drones and our missiles. Everyone can see their effectiveness – how our weapons are bringing the war back to Russia and reducing Russia’s war potential. Unrest in Russia, decreased Russian capacity to sell and refine oil, and lower global oil prices are all necessary for peace. This year must be decisive, and our actions must shape our destiny. That is exactly what we are doing. And, of course, I extend my gratitude to all the warriors of the Security Service of Ukraine, the Special Operations Forces, all branches of our Armed Forces, the Foreign Intelligence Service, and the Defense Intelligence of Ukraine – every individual who adds their strength and precision to Ukraine’s capabilities.

Glory to Ukraine!

Georgia:

The police didn’t want Rustaveli Avenue to be blocked, but due to the large number of protesters, it happened anyway.

#GeorgiaProtests
Day 60

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— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 11:53 AM

Mzia Amaghlobeli’s life is in danger as it’s the 16th day of her hunger strike!
All because Batumi Police Head Irakli Dgebuadze’s big ego suffered a blow as she confronted him, after which he degraded her by spitting on her and refusing her water and restroom! #terrorinGeorgia

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 2:53 PM

⭕ “A woman was imprisoned in this city, and she has been on hunger strike for 15 days now” — a wall inscription in Batumi in support of Mzia Amaghlobeli.

📸 Tamar Kuratishvili

#TerrorinGeorgia

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— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 11:25 AM

At this moment [00:30], the editor of @netgazeti.org Eter Turadze, is standing in front of the Parliament demanding the release of Mzia Amaghlobeli.

#TerrorinGeorgia

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— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 3:31 PM

“Against the police regime” — a protest march is taking place from Didube Metro to the police building on Tsereteli Avenue.

“No justice?! No peace!”

“Fire to oligarchy, power to the people.”

#GeorgiaProtests
Day 60

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— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 6:45 AM

Some chants and slogans from the #GeorgiaProtests:

“Police everywhere, justice nowhere”

“Unjust court, fear the people’s power”

“Listen to the voice of the people, the people demand justice”

“Fire to oligarchy”

“Freedom for the regime’s prisoners”

“We demand new elections”

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— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 3:27 AM

Vakho Pitskhelauri, Girchi – More Freedom and Coalition for Change affiliated activist in Gori, was kidnapped by 3 masked men, driven 6 kilometers away, and threatened with being killed before he escaped. He was beaten and robbed. This happened as he was walking to a shop. #terrorinGeorgia

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 3:21 PM

The Baltic Sea:

Another ship has been seized following the cable break in the Baltic Sea 👀

This is the only effective escalation management.

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 4:23 PM

‼️Another submarine cable connecting Latvia and Sweden on the Ventspils – Gotland section was damaged in the Baltic Sea.

“At this time, there is reason to believe that the cable is significantly damaged and that the damage is caused by external influences”

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 9:17 AM

/2. Latvian navy had dispatched a patrol boat to inspect a vessel suspected of involvement.

Two other vessels in the area were also subject to investigation, Latvia’s navy said.

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www.straitstimes.com/world/europe…

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 10:14 AM

/3. Statement of the Swedish PM regarding the damaged cable in the Baltic Sea.

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 10:18 AM

Back to Ukraine.

Just as expected, Ukraine’s Veteran Hub support line had to shut down because U.S. foreign aid is frozen. Now, other vital initiatives—school and hospital support, rebuilding, and energy programs—are at risk of being disrupted.

— Maria Avdeeva (@mariainkharkiv.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 7:31 AM

USAID’s office in Ukraine has been ordered to halt all projects and spending following US State Department directive to pause foreign aid programs for 90 days.

Staff currently lack detailed guidance on how the directive will be implemented or whether exceptions will be made.

— Maria Avdeeva (@mariainkharkiv.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 7:31 AM

Meanwhile, Ukrainian organizations are receiving notices to suspend activities funded by USAID or reliant on US financing.

— Maria Avdeeva (@mariainkharkiv.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 7:31 AM

The negative second and third order effects are beginning to ripple through.

Kyiv:

Meanwhile in good old Kyiv:

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— Illia Ponomarenko (@ioponomarenko.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 4:29 PM

Kherson:

❗️Kherson region: Human safari and aerial bombs

🔻Russian aviation dropped 8 aerial bomb on Beryslav, destroyed a hospital

🔻A Russian drone attacked a hospital in Kherson

🔻Man, 36 y.o. injured by a Russian drone

🔻Artillery attacks continue

🔻Remote mining by drones

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— Zarina Zabrisky (@zarinazabrisky.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 9:29 AM

Kurahove, Donetsk Oblast:

Video allegedly of Chinese soldier in Kurakhove, Donetsk Oblast, about 30 km south of the front-line city of Pokrovsk (still Ukrainian held). Not really surprising to see Chinese military in the war zone, more surprising video leaked, if it’s genuine. Could be a mercenary, or military observer.

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— Euan MacDonald (@euanmacdonald.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 12:08 PM

AI translation of video.

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— Euan MacDonald (@euanmacdonald.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 12:24 PM

Velyka Novosilka, Donetsk Oblast:

⚡️Ukrainian troops avoid encirclement in Velyka Novosilka, military says.

Ukrainian troops successfully withdrew from some areas to avoid being encircled, but fighting is ongoing around the village, according to the 110th Separate Mechanised Brigade.

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— The Kyiv Independent (@kyivindependent.com) January 26, 2025 at 8:51 AM

From The Kyiv Independent:

Ukrainian troops avoided encirclement as Russian forces are poised to capture Velyka Novosilka, Donetsk Oblast, said the 110th Separate Mechanised Brigade.

Ukrainian troops successfully withdrew from some areas to avoid being encircled but fighting is ongoing around the village, which lies around 15 kilometers east of the neighboring Dnipropetrovsk Oblast.

Equipment on both sides wears thin but Russian infantry vastly outnumbers the Ukrainian side, the brigade wrote on its Telegram channel.

While Russian troops will likely capture the village soon, they will struggle to advance their offensive onward. The Mokri Yaly River creates an obstacle for Russia’s advance and Russian troops are in a vulnerable “fire pocket,” said the brigade.

“Any movement is suppressed by shells and drones,” said the brigade.

The river also hindered supply routes to the Ukrainians. On Jan 23, Military spokesperson Viktor Trehubov warned that Ukrainian troops were at risk of encirclement.

Russian forces are attempting to take control of access routes to the village through heavy fire, Trehubov noted.

The Russian Defense Ministry claimed on Jan. 24 that its troops had planted a Russian flag in the center of Velyka Novosilka and that they had split the town in two, cutting off Ukrainian forces. The southern pocket fell most recently.

Experts told the Kyiv Independent that Ukrainian troops were likely holding onto the village’s northwestern areas and Russia expected to complete the capture in “days.”

If they do, it will be Russia’s first notable win this year.

It is unclear how many Ukrainian troops were trapped inside the southern pocket in Velyka Novosilka, but it could be around two or three battalions, according to Pasi Paroinen at the Finland-based open-source intelligence organization Black Bird Group. The number of soldiers is probably around several hundred, he added.

Fighting is at a very heavy level in Donetsk Oblast and Russian troops continue to advance, albeit slowly, this year. ​​Throughout the fall of 2024, Russian forces made operational gains in southern Donetsk Oblast, including areas near Toretsk and Chasiv Yar, while advancing near Kupiansk and on Russian soil in Kursk Oblast.

Tver Oblast, Russia:

Tver, Russia 🦅👀

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— MAKS 24 👀🇺🇦 (@maks23.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 5:32 PM

In Russia’s Tver region, Ukrainian drones are heard. Explosions are reported.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) January 26, 2025 at 5:49 PM

More from Tver 😳😳😳

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— MAKS 24 👀🇺🇦 (@maks23.bsky.social) January 26, 2025 at 6:37 PM

Oryol Oblast, Russia:

⚡️Ukrainian Air Force units and Defense Forces struck drone storage facilities in Russia’s Oryol Oblast, the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces said on Facebook on Jan. 26.

“It is preliminary known that more than 200 ‘Shaheds’ will no longer be used against our country,” the statement said.

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— The Kyiv Independent (@kyivindependent.com) January 26, 2025 at 2:29 PM

From The Kyiv Independent:

Ukrainian Air Force units and Defense Forces struck drone storage facilities in Russia’s western Oryol Oblast on Jan. 26, the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces reported on Facebook on Jan. 26.

The strike targeted concrete structures housing thermobaric warheads for drones, causing a significant secondary detonation.

“The results and extent of the damage are being specified, but it is preliminary known that more than 200 ‘Shaheds’ will no longer be used against our country,” the statement said.

Preliminary reports indicate that over 200 Shahed strike drones were destroyed, rendering them unusable for future attacks on Ukraine.

The statement emphasized that operations against critical facilities supporting attacks on Ukraine’s civilian infrastructure will continue.

Russia has launched thousands of cheap but effective Iranian-designed Shahed drones against Ukraine since the fall of 2022.

Shaheds and its domestic-made variants like Geran are often used for strikes against Ukrainian cities and infrastructure.

Shahed-136 drones’ flying range, claimed by various sources, varies from 1,000 kilometers (about 620 miles) to 2,500 kilometers (about 1,550 miles). They are said to weigh about 200 kilograms with a maximum flight speed of about 185 kilometers (115 miles) per hour.

Western media, such as the New York Times, has reported the cost of each Shahed-136 drone to be as low as $20,000.

The Oryol region was the target of numerous Ukrainian attacks over the last month, when a drone storage, maintenance, and repair facility was destroyed on Dec. 28 and when an oil depot was hit by drones, later catching on fire, on Dec. 22.

That’s enough for tonight.

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There are no new Patron skeets or videos tonight. Here is some adjacent material.

Today’s Ukrainian cat—and portable heating pad for tired solider.

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— The Spirit of Lorenzo the Cat (@lorenzothecat.bsky.social) January 22, 2025 at 3:24 PM

Open thread!

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Something Nice* Open Thread: Professor Krugman Is Tired…

by Anne Laurie|  January 26, 20256:11 pm| 148 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Excellent Links, Media, Something Good Open Thread

Something Nice Open Thread:  Professor Krugman Is Tired...

… of his mealy-mouthed NYTimes editors.

(*Reminder: Nice originally meant precise, or well-targeted.)

CJR asked 12 columnists if they’d recently been edited w a heavier hand. 3 said they hadn’t—3 of the worst (Dowd, Collins, & Friedman). Silence of the other 9 suggests they’ve had experiences similar to Krugman
This appears to date to Junior installing Healy as commissar for bothsidesism

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— Dana Houle (@danahoule.bsky.social) January 24, 2025 at 1:40 PM

Krug says that the NYT brass told him that writing a column and a newsletter was *too much content* www.cjr.org/analysis/pau…

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— ryan cooper (@ryanlcooper.com) January 24, 2025 at 9:10 AM

2 columns a week is frankly not that much of a workload unless you're putting a LOT of reporting and research into them. I used to write 5 a week, easily. why pay someone (I'd guess) well into 6 figures and not get your money's worth?

— ryan cooper (@ryanlcooper.com) January 24, 2025 at 9:12 AM

the answer of course is the NYT brass does not like Krug's politics and pushed him out with passive-aggressive tactics

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— ryan cooper (@ryanlcooper.com) January 24, 2025 at 9:13 AM

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in any case @pkrugman.bsky.social's solo newsletter has a post every weekday and without the stuffy, self-important NYT house style it's *better* substack.com/home/post/p-…

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— ryan cooper (@ryanlcooper.com) January 24, 2025 at 9:19 AM

I’ve signed up for a paid subscription — which, for now, means extra weekend posts — and will report back on how that experiment goes. Meanwhile, “Donald Trump Wants You to Die”:

… So what will MAGA do, now that it’s in power? Many observers, myself included, have focused on plans to convert a number of civil service jobs into political appointments. But just a few days into the new regime it’s clear that the assault on professional government will be much broader than that — that it will involve an effort to intimidate and politicize civil servants, too.

And early indications are that one prime target will be agencies devoted to protecting public health…

Public health agencies, even more than the rest of the government, are in the firing line. You can’t talk seriously about health policy without taking race and gender into account; yet according to the New York Times, one contractor collecting demographic data for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services has already been told to stop work, and the results of an already completed survey won’t be released.

But wait, there’s more: federal health agencies, including the Food and Drug Administration, the Centers for Disease Control and the National Institutes for Health, have been ordered to pause all external communications, including health advisories and scientific reports.

NIH, in particular, appears to have been effectively put in lockdown, with even routine meetings canceled and employees forbidden to travel.

Is this just a temporary phase, with normal health policy returning soon? Don’t count on it.

After all, Trump is trying to install Robert F. Kennedy, an anti-vaccine crank, as head of Health and Human Services. In general, public health policy, which used to be nonpartisan — in the past Anthony Fauci, whom President Biden preemptively pardoned to protect him from possible persecution, served both Democratic and Republican administrations — has become a political flash point. Right-wing hostility to medical science caused a strong partisan divide in willingness to get vaccinated against Covid…

And let’s not forget that when the Covid pandemic was raging, Trump seemed far more interested in preventing people from hearing bad news than he was in holding down the death toll.

So my prediction — which I hope proves false — is that when NIH and other health agencies emerge from the current freeze they will have been emasculated and politicized, prohibited from releasing information and research whose implications the Trump administration doesn’t like, banned from making policy recommendations that are inconvenient for Trump or at odds with the prejudices of the MAGA base.

And many Americans will die as a result…

And when — not if — the next pandemic strikes, do you expect our battered, politicized public health agencies to keep Americans properly informed? If Trump is still in charge, do you expect him to respond effectively, as opposed to minimizing the threat and muzzling anyone who might contradict him? It’s hard to feel optimistic about any of these concerns…

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Social Media Update

by @heymistermix.com|  January 26, 20251:43 pm| 195 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, social media

oh shit new logo just dropped

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— kottke.org (@kottke.org) January 7, 2025 at 5:35 PM

This is an interesting piece about TikTok users getting around an algorithm that mainly rewards posts about shopping and fashion:

For the past 48 hours, thousands of TikTok users have been posting and sharing videos ostensibly about “cute winter boots.”

[…]

The phrase “cute winter boots” is not about footwear. It’s a code phrase being used to discuss resistance to Trump and how to fight back against the draconian immigration policies his administration is enacting. Users talking about “cute winter boots” keeping people safe from “ice,” are referencing U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. “Cute winter boots” is just the latest example of algospeak, coded phrases and words aimed at subverting algorithmic filters.

As the U.S. government seeks to enact stricter controls over speech online, TikTok users are adopting more coded language specifically aimed at criticizing the government and alerting others to government surveillance of online spaces. For instance, the phrase “Senator, I’m Singaporean,” a quote uttered by TikTok’s CEO Shou Chew in response to Sen. Tom Cotton’s racist line of questioning implying that Chew was a Chinese government agent, is now frequently posted in the comments of videos by users seeking to warn others about the content they’re posting. The phrase “Senator, I’m Singaporean,” has come to mean that a video is not something that the government wants, or that they’re going to show this type of video to congress, a creator explained.

Predictions about the future of non-right-wing content on social media are hard. Twitter is easy — it’s run by a nazi and is now a nazi propaganda hellhole. The rest are going to tune their algorithm, or even remove posts, as Meta recently did by blurring, blocking or removing posts from abortion pill providers.

Reddit, which I guess is a social media platform, is different from the others because it has strong volunteer moderators. Recently, a number of those moderators in some of the big subreddits (oddly enough, starting with sports Jersey subreddit*) starting banning Twitter links. This reddit post is an interesting read on that.

I’m really enjoying BlueSky and think it’s a great platform with great promise. But the reality is that the reach of BlueSky is minuscule compared to the Meta, TikTok and YouTube platforms. I have hope for the future, but for the moment, I’m not going to ding any Democrat or activist who uses platforms (other than Twitter) to try to spread the message. Hopefully, they’ll cross-post on multiple socials so they can build followers on all of them, and that includes BlueSky.

Please use this thread to talk about social media or anything else you’d like.

* JerseyBeard showed his Jersey pride by pointing out that the Jersey subreddit was the first to ban Ketamine Boy’s private website.

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All Creatures Short and Squat (Open Thread)

by Betty Cracker|  January 26, 20258:17 am| 137 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

I’ve been looking for things — anything! — to distract myself from… [gestures vaguely at smoking rubble]. Via the excellent “Wiser Than Me” podcast hosted by Julia Louis-Dreyfus, I recently learned about Isabella Rossellini’s “Green Porno” series.

Rossellini, who has a master’s in animal behavior, narrates and acts in short clips where she hilariously explains the reproductive habits of various animals and insects. It’s funny and educational, which is more than I can say for U.S. and world politics right now. You can stream episodes for free on YouTube.

Feel free to talk about non-educational and humorless politics, or any other topic, in comments. There’s a lot going on, as the zone is being deliberately flooded with shit. I just don’t have the heart to summarize even one of the myriad catastrophes right now.

Open thread!

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Late Night Repost: Mars, Beyotches!

by Anne Laurie|  January 26, 20251:33 am| 121 Comments

This post is in: Mostly Open Thread, Science & Technology, Space

One thing I find interesting about Musk's descent into politics is that he's destroying his Mars plans. Even if heavy rocket launches were free, putting people on Mars requires a decade or more of grinding near Earth to develop life support capabilities that simply don't exist.

— Pinboard (@Pinboard) December 20, 2024

Commentor Leto asked about finding (what I’m fairly sure was) this post the other day. Mars, Beyotches! originally appeared just after 7pm on Christmas Eve, and I’m guessing more than a few of you were busy with other things. Since Musk and Trump seem to be accelarating towards their inevitable murder-suicide political divorce…

Trump has more leverage over Musk. Trump got elected. He will probably never go to jail. He doesn’t need Musk’s money for another election.* What could Musk divulge about Trump that wouldn’t be self-incriminating? And is Musk—picking fights w Microsoft & Apple—a net asset in running the government?

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— Dana Houle (@danahoule.bsky.social) January 23, 2025 at 6:29 PM

Lol access journalism has broken fucking brains.
They're knifing Elon, you maroons. They're leaking "He's in charge, not Trump" which is like the one very, very real thing that gets Trump all sorts of mad.

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— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) January 23, 2025 at 9:16 PM

… Here’s the December post, with full linkage:

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The position of every Dem should be that NASA will spend $0 on crewed spaceflight. Flights, training, R&D, all of it. It's a waste, we have a deficit, we should spend on cops, blah blah blah whatever.
Republicans have no choice but to throw money at it now, and will trade to ensure that happens.

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— Max Kennerly (@maxkennerly.bsky.social) December 21, 2024 at 7:30 PM

Rich guys with big fantasies:

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… Isaacman made headlines earlier this year when he became the first private astronaut to conduct a spacewalk. The five-day mission took place using a capsule built by Elon Musk’s company SpaceX. During the flight, Isaacman and SpaceX engineer Sarah Gillis donned space suits supplied by the company and floated briefly outside the capsule…

Isaacman is a friend of Musk, and his online payment company, Shift 4, has extensive financial ties to SpaceX. According to financial disclosure documents, Shift 4 had invested $27.5 million dollars in SpaceX as of 2021. That same year, Shift4 announced a five-year partnership that would make it the payment platform for Starlink, the satellite internet service run by SpaceX.

If confirmed as NASA administrator, Isaacman would oversee billions of dollars in contracts that the government has awarded to SpaceX. He would also be in a position to funnel more money to Musk’s company…

In fact, in previous posts on Musk’s social media platform X, Isaacman appears to have shown a strong preference for SpaceX. He has supported allowing SpaceX to increase its launches out of California, after lawmakers there voted to restrict its flights from Vandenberg Air Force Base. He’s also been critical of NASA’s Space Launch System (SLS) to carry astronauts to the moon, as well as the agency’s decision to award a lunar landing contract to Blue Origin, the spaceflight company of Amazon founder Jeff Bezos. The Blue Origin award came after NASA gave a multi-billion dollar contract to SpaceX for the same mission…

Farrar says Isaacman would not immediately be able to restructure NASA’s large programs, such as its Artemis mission to deliver astronauts to the moon. That’s because many aspects of those programs are dictated by Congress, which sets the budget for the space agency. “The real question for NASA is whether Congress will permit it to abandon legacy projects like SLS so the budget can be redirected to SpaceX,” he says…

Back during the first Gilded Age, plutocrats started the trend of buying themselves vast Western dude ranches (frequently using government dollars), where they could live out their manly Cowboy & Indian dreams. That’s still popular, of course, but Space, beyotches! has both a technocratic sheen and the imagined advantage of becoming an actual God-Emperor in a whole new realm. Especially for a soutpiel like Elon Musk, who’s been steeped since birth in the idea that when the going gets tough, the privileged elite skip out…

One thing I find interesting about Musk's descent into politics is that he's destroying his Mars plans. Even if heavy rocket launches were free, putting people on Mars requires a decade or more of grinding near Earth to develop life support capabilities that simply don't exist.

— Pinboard (@Pinboard) December 20, 2024

Like it or not, the agency that has the institutional knowledge on life support, deep space tracking, and a dozen other technologies needed for Mars is NASA. Not to mention that for reasons of practical politics, a half-trillion dollar Mars landing has to be a national project

The irreducible length (~two years) of a Mars mission is so far out of our experience that it frontloads any landing attempt with multiple two-year testing cycles in far Earth orbit, to work out the life support bugs. There’s just no way around this grind as a prerequisite.

That means that to go to Mars, you have to sustain the support of Congress for a decade or more, as parties come in and out of power. Old Elon was on track to achieve this, his pose was disdaining politics in favor of a good old wailing electric guitar American can-do spirit

He had the cultural capital, the money, and a promising rocket program that put him on track to realizing the Martian dream, and he gave that up to become an ideologue in an administration where such influence has historically had a short shelf life. Talk about a mind virus!

By transforming himself into a hyperpartisan political figure, Musk has made sure that he can’t realize his stated dream of Mars colonization—he can’t even do a Mars landing—because the only way multi-decade megaprojects get done in US politics is by slow institutional capture.

You have to remember that even three years ago, Musk was a politically unaligned memelord whose real passion was robot cars, supertunnels, a kind of techno-optimism rooted in American greatness, exceptionalism, and ability to build shit. And he threw that valuable clout away.

It's not just a money question; you need a long near Earth research program which necessarily means launch permits, and for going to Mars in particular you need enough political clout to ignore COSPAR rules on planetary protection, a matter of international treaty.

— Pinboard (@Pinboard) December 20, 2024

My point is if Mars became a national priority tonight, it would take 15-20 years to get to the landing, with no way to shorten the process. That's a long time to rely on Trump and his political successors to stay in power, and keep liking you.

— Pinboard (@Pinboard) December 20, 2024

For those interested, I wrote the start of a rant last year about what actually makes going to Mars difficult, and why it's a terrible idea to boot. https://t.co/Q8oD7otgqn

— Pinboard (@Pinboard) December 20, 2024

Something to argue about while we’re waiting for the goodies to finish baking, or the (grand)kids to drop off to sleep:

The goal of this essay is to persuade you that we shouldn’t send human beings to Mars, at least not anytime soon. Landing on Mars with existing technology would be a destructive, wasteful stunt whose only legacy would be to ruin the greatest natural history experiment in the Solar System. It would no more open a new era of spaceflight than a Phoenician sailor crossing the Atlantic in 500 B.C. would have opened up the New World. And it wouldn’t even be that much fun.

The buildup to Mars would not look like Apollo, but a long series of ISS-like flights to nowhere. If your main complaint about the International Space Station is that it’s too exciting and has a distracting view of Earth out the window, then you’ll love watching ISS Jr. drift around doing bone studies in deep space. But if you think rockets, adventure, exploration, and discovery are more fun than counting tumors in mice, then the slow and timorous Mars program will only break your heart.

Sticking a flag in the Martian dust would cost something north of half a trillion dollars, with no realistic prospect of landing before 2050. To borrow a quote from John Young, keeping such a program funded through fifteen consecutive Congresses would require a series “of continuous miracles, interspersed with acts of God”. Like the Space Shuttle and Space Station before it, the Mars program would exist in a state of permanent redesign by budget committee until any logic or sense in the original proposal had been wrung out of it.

When the great moment finally came, and the astronauts had taken their first Martian selfie, strict mission rules meant to prevent contamination and minimize risk would leave the crew dependent on the same robots they’d been sent at enormous cost to replace. Only the microbes that lived in the spacecraft, uninformed of the mission rules, would be free to go wander outside. They would become the real explorers of Mars, and if their luck held, its first colonists.

How long such a program could last is anyone’s guess. But if landing on the Moon taught us anything, it’s that taxpayer enthusiasm for rock collecting has hard limits. At ~$100B per mission, and with launch windows to Mars one election cycle apart, NASA would be playing a form of programmatic Russian roulette. It’s hard to imagine landings going past the single digits before cost or an accident shut the program down. And once the rockets had retired to their museums, humanity would have nothing to show for its Mars adventure except some rocks and a bunch of unspeakably angry astrobiologists. It would in every way be the opposite of exploration…

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