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Trump Just Isn’t a Shiny New Object Anymore

by @heymistermix.com|  August 18, 202411:42 am| 155 Comments

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Trump Just Isn't a Shiny New Object Anymore

3. He said VP Harris “laughs like a lunatic” and therefore “she is prohibited from laughing.”

4. He said Time Magazine didn’t take a good photo of VP Harris so they needed a sketch artist. This makes him upset.

5. He is upset now that VP Harris looked like Sophia Loren or Elizabeth Taylor on the Time Magazine cover.

6. He said “they say I ramble. But I don’t ramble. I’m a really smart guy.”

7. He said “Biden hates Kamala. He hates her.”

8. He said he should be paid $100 million for Biden being replaced by VP Harris.

9. He randomly said “Barack Hussein Obama.”

10. He said climate change is good because it will give us more beachfront property.

11. He said our country “ will die.”

12. He said he hopes we “enjoy” an economic depression.

I saw this last night and wondered how the press would cover the rally.  Here’s the Post [gift link] and here’s the Guardian.  The Guardian headline/subhead are better (“Trump campaign reset goes awry in Pennsylvania as he attacks Harris / Ex-president quickly broke away from prepared speech to accuse vice-president of being a communist and a fascist”). The Post’s is still good (“Trump escalates gendered personal insults against Harris, defying GOP pressure / The Republican nominee also stoked Democrats’ rift over Israel by baselessly claiming Harris passed over Gov. Josh Shapiro to be her running mate because he is Jewish.”).

The stories themselves hit some of the 12 points that Ben mentioned in the tweet. (It would be hard to fit everything into a standard-length news story, so I won’t ding them for that.) There was little-to-no cleanup / explanation of his nonsense, just quoting. I’m not going to look at the Times because I don’t read it, but if you’ve seen it, please let us know in the comments.

I think there are a couple of reasons for this:

  1. They’re under immense pressure from Democrats/subscribers/people on Twitter to report the facts.  KamalaHQ on Twitter is really good at just quoting the nonsense he says, so if that nonsense isn’t in one of their stories, it’s clear they missed something.
  2. Trump is so pudding-brained that he can’t even keep on message for a few minutes, so there’s no real “hard news” to report.
  3. Trump is losing and once you’re viewed as a loser the press thinks they can shit on you without repercussion.

It might just be the soft bigotry of low expectations, but I see a bit of a change here.  Harris/Walz is the new shiny thing.  Let’s enjoy it while we can.

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PatrickG Angel Match & Zoom with The Civics Center on Tuesday at 7:30 pm

by WaterGirl|  August 18, 202410:15 am| 45 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

We have a new Balloon Juice Angel match for The Civics Center –  PatrickG will match up to $150 per person, up to $2,500. 

If we can get the thermometer to $20,000 by midnight – not including his match – he will throw in an extra $2,500!   (thank you, Patrick!!!)

I hope you’ll join us for the zoom on Tuesday.  Laura Brill is the founder and CEO of  The Civics Center.

Laura has an extraordinary background!  Laura clerked for Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and co-authored several articles with her.  She’s an award-winning advocate with more than two decades of experience working on complex legal issues and advocating for the LGBTA+ community and for equal voting rights.  Laura will be here to talk about The Civics Center, but I bet we can talk her into a story or two!

And now, she’s focused on The Civics Center.

 

The Civics Center trains students and educators to conduct registration and preregistration drives in High Schools.  And they make it fun!  In addition to training and support, The Civics Center provides T-shirts, stickers, customizable flyers, tote bags, candy and other swag in the brilliantly-named Democracy in a Box!

With this fundraiser, we’re helping the Civic Center expand into 25 schools in diverse metropolitan areas – in Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio and Pennsylvania! 

Here’s a link to our first post about the Civics Center, in case you missed it or you have slept since then. :-_

It’s Up to Us Now, Next Up, Youth Again (only Younger!)

Come to the zoom to learn more about how The Civics Center is making registering to vote a part of the turning 18 experience – or in many states, the “turning 16-or-17 experience”.  RSVP via email to WaterGirl!

Angel match from PatrickG: you know the drill, to count toward the match, tell us about your donation in the comments or send email to WaterGirl.

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Sunday Morning Open Thread: Joyfully Into the Fray

by Anne Laurie|  August 18, 20249:24 am| 98 Comments

This post is in: Elections 2024, Kamala Harris for President, Open Threads, President Biden, Proud to Be A Democrat

Together we can protect democracy by electing @KamalaHarris our next president! pic.twitter.com/n8SKrSk9oX

— Swing Left (@swingleft) August 17, 2024

On Mon, @POTUS will keynote @DemConvention. In his remarks, he will make the case for his “partner” @KamalaHarris.
No doubt on Mon & throughout the convention @POTUS will receive the 💐 he so rightfully deserves. I’ll be right there cheering him on. ♥️https://t.co/OADAHrziKX

— Emmy Ruiz (@emmyruiz) August 17, 2024

… KAMALA, DOUG/TIM, GWEN/BILL, HILLARY HIT CHICAGO SUNDAY: Harris and second gentleman Doug Emhoff arrive in Chicago on Sunday night from Pittsburgh. Harris and Emhoff will attend Monday’s kick off session, where she will get the baton from Biden and be there for the salute to the president. Harris and her running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, head to Milwaukee for a Tuesday rally, returning to Chicago later in the day.

Harris and Emhoff and the Walzes will remain in Chicago through Friday.

Former President Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton — the 2016 Democratic nominee and former secretary of state, New York senator and first lady — headline a high-dollar fundraiser for the Harris Victory Fund on Sunday night in Highland Park, with the ask ranging from $25,000 to $100,000, according to an invitation obtained by the Sun-Times.

Hillary Clinton will speak to the convention on Monday night; Emhoff on Tuesday; Walz on Wednesday; and Harris on Thursday.

After his speech, Biden and first lady Jill Biden, who also addresses the convention on Monday, will leave Chicago…

Biden plans to hit the road for the Harris-Walz ticket, his aides said, with an extensive travel schedule in the weeks ahead.

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My team and I are honored to join this excellent group of lawyers to defend democracy and elect Kamala Harris as the next President of the United States. https://t.co/axZafguYo0 pic.twitter.com/AWKSSLXV5V

— Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) August 17, 2024

Harris campaign announces a big $370 million ad reservation from Labor Day through Election Day — $170 million on TV and $200 million on digital. Her team calls it “the largest digital reservation in the history of American politics,” designed to “reach voters where they are.”

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) August 17, 2024

This is why James Comer just started a sham investigation about Tim Walz https://t.co/vTNzFSxDr0

— Ragnarok Lobster 🐺 (@eclecticbrotha) August 18, 2024

https://t.co/FQglW4VMad pic.twitter.com/09NHXi71Em

— Greg (@ThatPodcastGuy1) August 18, 2024

1) I said to people a year or so back that I thought the GOP would experience a version of Hemingway’s famous response to “How did you go bankrupt?” — Gradually, then all at once. This iteration of the GOP has been flirting with disaster a long time…

— SwamplandTRQ (@SwamplandTrq) August 18, 2024

Remember, Caring is Sharing…

We can’t take a “Blue Wave” for granted! Ignore the polls & campaign like we’re 30 points behind. The stakes have never been higher. Tell everyone you know to tell everyone they know to go to https://t.co/6sBX4S8EYS to make sure they’re registered. We are NOT going back!!! pic.twitter.com/YmyOSwUQYY

— Mark Hamill (@MarkHamill) August 16, 2024

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Late Night Open Thread: That Lingering Smell of Burnt Toast

by Anne Laurie|  August 18, 20242:45 am| 159 Comments

This post is in: Elections 2024, Open Threads, Republican Stupidity, Trumpery

Elon tries to jumpstart #Trump campaign…OOPS. https://t.co/S5IOm2CoGu

— Laurie Garrett (@Laurie_Garrett) August 13, 2024

Remember when your middle-school history textbook tried to get you interested in the ‘colorful’ figures of the original Gilded Age bust-out, cartoon characters like John D Rockefeller and Nominally President Harding? Someday historians — assuming there are still historians — will treat Musk and TFG’s “interview” the same way…

So some volunteers for Kamala were able to organize the worlds largest Zoom call in history a few days after she become the nominee…..but the Trump camp and Elon Musk can’t start an X Space on time on the site Musk personally owns?

There isn’t even video here.

Not good.

— Peter Henlein (@SwissWatchGuy) August 13, 2024

Remember how excited they were when they fired the “diversity” and only kept the “real coders.”

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

— LadyGrey ???????????? (@TWLadyGrey) August 13, 2024

Big night for the Silicon Valley crowd that invested in both Elon’s Twitter and Trump’s campaign.

— Daily Trix (@DailyTrix) August 13, 2024

Best example of Trump’s slurring I’ve heard: “Sthrikehh”, at the 9second mark:

NBC: Donald Trump praised Elon Musk for having mass firings and layoffs at his multiple companies, saying 'they go on strike, that's okay, then you're all gone' pic.twitter.com/CbxqrAZNyb

— Kamala HQ (@KamalaHQ) August 13, 2024

For a fascism-curious billionaire who loves cuddling up to right-wing loons, Elon Musk sure is good at making right-wing politicians look stupid. He did that with Donald Trump tonight. An unmitigated disaster.
My column on Trump’s ongoing spiral:https://t.co/gTXJEKyO5A

— Rex Huppke (@RexHuppke) August 13, 2024

You Trump-haters out there should never be mad at Elon for this, because this is going to be the source of memes and quotes and clips for weeks

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) August 13, 2024

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How right-wing Twitter depicted last night’s conversation vs what it actually was pic.twitter.com/a9qG7aEZoJ

— Berny Belvedere (@bernybelvedere) August 13, 2024

this conversation is first ballot inner circle dunning-kruger hall of fame

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— not an art thief (@famousartthief.bsky.social) Aug 12, 2024 at 10:03 PM

Trump is slurring in a way I’ve never heard from him before. Elon sounds like this is maybe the third or fourth time he’s had a conversation with a fellow human.

— Susan Simpson (@TheViewFromLL2) August 13, 2024

… Elon: “You need [a president] that evil dictators are afraid of.”

Trump: “I have a great relationship with Putin.”

Elon: *continues to talk about how world security requires a U.S. president that scares vicious dictators*

Trump: “I know every one of them. Putin, Xi, KJU… They’re at the top of their game. They love their countries.”

Trump: “[Biden] shaid something that was sho sthupid… It’sth sho shad.”…

Trump: The EU is taking advantage of us. We protect them with NATO, and they won’t even let you sell a car to Europe.

Elon, who sells cars in Europe: *silence*

Elon: “It would be impossible to have a conversation with Harris or Biden, it’s like talking to an NPC.”

Trump: “I get along with KJU, we had dinner. … We had a great relationship, he likes me. He’s the boss over there.”..

Odds that Trump understands what an NPC is? These guys weren’t talking to each other, they were each talking to their fan-base separately.

— Edward (@Ark_Tor) August 13, 2024

Putin's naughty bits https://t.co/QgWbWXg9Tj

— Ragnarok Lobster 🐺 (@eclecticbrotha) August 13, 2024

Trump to Elon: “you definitely have a fertile mind”

— John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) August 13, 2024

This is not a political interview. It’s Musk interviewing for a job with Trump.

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) August 13, 2024

DDOStoßlegende
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— Alex Cruikshanks (@alexsaysstuff.bsky.social) Aug 12, 2024 at 8:46 PM

We’ve heard you on the phone before! You’ve spent decades calling into Imus, Morning Joe, Fox & Friends with hours of mindless prattle.

We know that Apple isn’t the reason you sounded like Abe Simpson chasing the tortoise that stole his dentures.

— zeddy (@Zeddary) August 14, 2024

“But wasn’t the Trump/Musk interview disaster in some ways ultimately Biden’s fault? We asked two squirrels and a watermelon.”
— The New York Times

— Michael Marshall Smith (@ememess) August 13, 2024

Trump could have shown up to last night’s live naked, rambling about shooting down Iranian dragons and the Times would report it as “A dressed-down Trump discussed air defense at length with Elon Musk.”

— Jean-Michel Connard ??? (@torriangray) August 13, 2024

Wanting to be liked is literally the entire reason he bought Twitter https://t.co/5LFfdMPu7h

— chris evans (@notcapnamerica) August 16, 2024

Hard to tell if this was a case of “Everything Trump Touches Dies” or “Everything Elon Touches Dies”

— Ben Wexler (@mrbenwexler) August 13, 2024

That Lingering Smell of Burnt Toast - STOCKPILE

(Nick Anderson via GoComics.com)

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Balloon-Juice After Dark: They Really Are That Weird

by TaMara|  August 18, 20241:59 am| 65 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Bring On The Meteor, Weird

Please let this be AI, please let this be AI, please, please, please…

OMG there are more of them pic.twitter.com/RqQpnJ9fFl

— 🥀_ Imposter_🥀 (@Imposter_Edits) August 18, 2024

 

Image

Text: JD Vance Full Family Kit (and I cannot believe I just typed that)

This is going to haunt my dreams tonight.   Please someone tell me this is just some fake shit someone made and passed off as real. Because, just no. First it was diapers, then it was sanitary napkin ear pads, now this?

We have got to vote these folks out and pray they don’t reproduce.

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War for Ukraine Day 906: The Starlink Snowflake & the Fun Sized Tyrant

by Adam L Silverman|  August 17, 202410:30 pm| 28 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

A quick housekeeping note. Rosie is still doing great. Next treatment is Monday and I’ll have more to report then.

Air raid alerts are up over all of eastern, central, and northern Ukraine as of 10:1 PM EDT/ 5;12 AM local time in Ukraine. Russian strategic aviation is airborne over Russia, which means this morning’s bombardment will be cruise missiles in addition to Shahed drones.

Air raid alert map of Ukraine for 17 AUG 2024 at 10:15 PM EDT. Air raid alerts are indicated in red on the map over all of eastern, central, and northern Ukraine.

Chechen warlord Ramzan Kadyrov claims the Starlink Snowflake gave him a Cybertruck as a gift. Which Kadyrov quickly mounted a machine gun on and then claims to have sent to his troops fighting as part of Russia’s genocidal re-invasion of Ukraine.

Kadyrov said he received a Tesla Cybertrack from Elon Musk. He promised to send it to the “special military operation” zone and attached a machine gun to it.

“Elon, thank you! Come to Grozny, I will receive you as the most dear guest! I do not think that our Russian MFA will be… pic.twitter.com/m72fg2G2PU

— Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en) August 17, 2024

Kadyrov said he received a Tesla Cybertrack from Elon Musk. He promised to send it to the “special military operation” zone and attached a machine gun to it.

“Elon, thank you! Come to Grozny, I will receive you as the most dear guest! I do not think that our Russian MFA will be against such a trip. And, of course, we are waiting for your new developments that will contribute to the completion of the SMO,” Kadyrov wrote on his Telegram channel.

If the Starlink Snowflake has actually given Kadyrov a Cybertruck as a gift, that is a bit of a problem for Apartheid Clyde. Because Kadyrov has been under US sanctions since 2017, with additional sanctions added as a result of his participation in Russia’s genocidal re-invasion of Ukraine.

The Starlink Snowflake’s tech also seems to be installed on Russia’s new naval drone:

***BREAKING***#Russian naval drone (USV) shown with Starlink (!)

Russia is generally behind #Ukraine in use of USVs, but this design appears sensible, similar to Magura and Sea Baby types#OSINThttps://t.co/VzxHUm5W8G

— H I Sutton (@CovertShores) August 13, 2024

From Naval News:

The war in the Black Sea has been shaped, maybe even defined, by maritime drones. So far it has been a Ukrainian dominated arena, with Russia lagging behind Ukraine in the adoption of uncrewed surface vessels (USVs). Now Russia appears to be slowly entering the game with increasingly credible designs.

The latest type, the Murena-300S appears generally comparable with Ukrainian types. And more significantly, it appears to have a Starlink antenna.

Starlink satellite communications have played an important part in enabling Ukrainian drones to operate so effectively. Along with the rival Kymeta system, it allows the drones to be controlled in real time. This has permitted a human-in-the-loop approach to attacking enemy ships, with the pilot ashore literally guiding the USV into the target. This has only been possible thanks to the data rate and reliability of these systems.

The apparent Starlink antenna on the Murena-300S has been hidden under camouflage netting but its distinctive shape is evident. The corners of the square antenna are also just visible in photographs from the event.

Russian troops can purchase Starlink abroad with numbers of terminals acquired on the open market. Since its use by Russian troops came to light earlier this year, the Pentagon teamed up with SpaceX, who make it, to block Russia from using it. How effective this will be remains to be seen. Certainly the inclusion of an antenna on the vessel suggests that it isn’t entirely written off.

Possibly the antenna is for a different satellite network, or possibly it is only a prop intended as a ruse. However, while the manufacturer doesn’t call out the Starlink, it does claim “On-line Interference-proof GNSS” which fits. As well as this, the USV is advertised as having an inertial navigation system (INS), electrooptical sensors, infrared thermal imaging and LIDAR.

More at the link!

The Starlink Snowflake, despite being having a very public drug addiction, has a high level US security clearance. He has one because of his ownership of SpaceX. The drug use alone should disqualify him from keeping that clearance, but Kadyrov’s claims that Musk has violated US sanctions allowing Kadyrov to repurpose a Cybertruck into an assault vehicle to be used against Ukraine, as well as H.I. Sutton’s reporting that Starlink terminals are on Russia’s newest naval drones, are all just further evidence that his clearance should be stripped and caged. While Colin Kahl fortunately stepped down as Undersecretary of Defense for Policy in mid-2023, before he did he explained to everyone why the Biden administration allows Musk to maintain his clearances and control over a major defense contractor:

Last October, Colin Kahl, then the Under-Secretary of Defense for Policy at the Pentagon, sat in a hotel in Paris and prepared to make a call to avert disaster in Ukraine. A staffer handed him an iPhone—in part to avoid inviting an onslaught of late-night texts and colorful emojis on Kahl’s own phone. Kahl had returned to his room, with its heavy drapery and distant view of the Eiffel Tower, after a day of meetings with officials from the United Kingdom, France, and Germany. A senior defense official told me that Kahl was surprised by whom he was about to contact: “He was, like, ‘Why am I calling Elon Musk?’ ”

The reason soon became apparent. “Even though Musk is not technically a diplomat or statesman, I felt it was important to treat him as such, given the influence he had on this issue,” Kahl told me.

You may have noticed the category error that Kahl made, which was feeling that it was important to treat Musk as if he was something he is not. One of the major errors the Biden administration, especially its senior natsec appointees, have made over and over since 2001 is not realizing that there’s no point in having power if you’re not going to use it. With the exception of the cult of personality stock bubble driving Tesla profits, every cent Musk has made at Tesla (carbon offset credits) and SpaceX is from US government contracts. Moreover, he’s a walking securities and exchange violation and has openly supported parties and/or attempts to overthrow the government. The latter of which is disqualifying for holding a clearance.

Biden’s natsec appointees, including the absolute failure of an attorney general Merrick Garland, need to grow a spine very quickly and deal with the Musk problem before it gets worse. Musk, as well as Thiel and the rest of their ultra-high net worth colleagues need to be understood as a very specific type of insider threats. Specifically, because of the enormity of their wealth, which makes it possible to travel anywhere whenever they like and to own property and gain residency and/or citizenship wherever they want, have no allegiance or even affinity for the state and societies they are citizens of. The only affinity they might have only exists so long as their wealth buys them the influence to control the parts of those states and societies they care about. In this context, care about means the ability to give them political, financial, and social control in order to extract rents from the polity, society, and economy. Musk and the other ultra-high net worth individuals are the ultimate insider threats and present a clear and present danger to the United States, our allies, and our partners. They need to be dealt with accordingly while it is still possible to do so.

Here is President Zelenskyy’s address from earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

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It Is Important That Our Partners Remove the Barriers That Prevent Us from Weakening Russian Positions – Address by the President

17 August 2024 – 19:28

I wish you good health, fellow Ukrainians!

Today there have already been several reports from Commander-in-Chief Syrskyi. As always, our first and foremost attention goes to the frontline directions. Primarily, to the Donetsk region. It faces the majority of Russian assaults. I thank all our units – every soldier and commander, who are holding the front, defending our positions and destroying the occupier.

We are doing everything to provide our warriors with the necessary weapons and reinforcements. And in this regard, it is undoubtedly important for us that our partners remove the barriers that prevent us from weakening Russian positions as required by the course of the war. The long-range capabilities of our forces are the answer to all the most important, to all the most strategic issues of this war. The courage of our warriors, the resilience of our combat brigades are currently compensating for the lack of necessary decisions by our partners. And we could effectively deprive the occupier of any opportunity to advance and wreak havoc if our long-range capabilities were sufficient.

We will intensify our diplomatic work. We will insist on the need for bold steps, bold decisions. We need things that truly change the course of the war, leading it to a just peace, to a real conclusion – the kind of conclusion we need. And we need all of our partners, who can really help, to do so. This includes the United States, the United Kingdom, France and other partners.

In particular, we have seen throughout this war that the United Kingdom has shown real leadership. In weaponry, in politics, and in supporting the life of Ukrainian society. This is what has saved thousands of our people. This is what reflects the strength of the United Kingdom. But now, unfortunately, the situation has slowed down. We will discuss how to fix this. Because long-range capabilities are a matter of principle for us. And the entire world sees how effective Ukrainians – our whole nation – are when defending their independence.

Today, General Syrskyi has also reported on the continuation of our advance in the Kursk region. The operation is unfolding exactly as we expected. The bravery of Ukrainians is achieving great things. Now we are reinforcing our positions. The foothold of our presence is getting stronger. I want to thank every warrior who ensures this: all soldiers, sergeants and commanders.

I also thank every unit that replenishes our exchange fund with new Russian prisoners of war. This is important. This hastens the release of our military and civilians from Russian captivity. We remember all those we must bring home.

And it is also very important that this week there was a reboot of our negotiating group and the entire infrastructure of exchanges. The Security Service of Ukraine, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Armed Forces, and the Foreign Intelligence Service have joined on an equal footing with the Defense Intelligence of Ukraine. The presence of the Ombudsman’s infrastructure in the regions of Ukraine will also be strengthened to ensure transparent and quality work with the families of prisoners and with civil society activists who are willing to help. And this is our absolute priority – one of the ten points of the Peace Formula. And we will definitely do everything to ensure that Ukraine achieves a just peace. All our people, all our communities.

I thank everyone who is helping! Glory to Ukraine!

At sea: Neptune, Sea Baby, MAGURA V5.
On land: Bohdana, Stugna, Corsar.
In the air: Bober, Morok, Liutyi.
These are our Ukrainian developments, that clear the Black Sea, add strength to our country and destroy Russia’s potential.

Glory to Ukraine! pic.twitter.com/uZiIDEvR9r

— Volodymyr Zelenskyy / Володимир Зеленський (@ZelenskyyUa) August 17, 2024

Today’s report from Commander-in-Chief Syrskyi.

First, regarding the Toretsk and Pokrovsk directions. Dozens of Russian assaults on our positions were recorded in the last 24 hours. However, our warriors and units are doing everything possible to destroy the occupiers and repel…

— Volodymyr Zelenskyy / Володимир Зеленський (@ZelenskyyUa) August 17, 2024

Today’s report from Commander-in-Chief Syrskyi.

First, regarding the Toretsk and Pokrovsk directions. Dozens of Russian assaults on our positions were recorded in the last 24 hours. However, our warriors and units are doing everything possible to destroy the occupiers and repel their assaults. The situation remains under control.

Second, the operation in the Kursk region. By this morning, our country’s “exchange fund” has been replenished. I thank all our soldiers and commanders who are capturing Russian military personnel, thereby advancing the release of our warriors and civilians held by Russia. General Syrskyi also reported on the strengthening of our Forces’ positions in the Kursk region and the expansion of the stabilized area.

Third, ensuring weaponry and decisive actions. We are working on new support packages for our country from our partners. We are identifying priority areas. The key focus is on limiting Russia’s offensive potential and ensuring our long-range capabilities. We are preparing the respective instructions for Ukrainian diplomats.

Germany:

Btw, this isn’t about advocating unlimited spending. In a world of crises, from war to energy security, prioritizing inflexible rules over essential investments in the face of existential challenges is reckless. It’s about smart, targeted action when it’s most needed.

— Mathieu von Rohr (@mathieuvonrohr) August 17, 2024

Politico EU has the details:

The German government will stop new military aid to Ukraine as part of the ruling coalition’s plan to reduce spending, the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ) reported on Saturday.

The moratorium on new assistance is already in effect and will affect new requests for funding, not previously approved aid, according to the FAZ report, which cited non-public documents and emails as well as discussions with people familiar with the matter.

In a letter sent to the German defense ministry on Aug. 5, Finance Minister Christian Lindner said that future funding would no longer come from Germany’s federal budget but from proceeds from frozen Russian assets, according to the German newspaper.

Germany and other G7 countries in June struck a preliminary deal to use the value of some $300 billion of Russia’s sovereign assets immobilized in Western financial institutions to secure a $50 billion loan to Ukraine. But governments have yet to agree on the details of the scheme, and technical talks might drag on for months.

Berlin, which is Europe’s main supplier of military aid to Kyiv, had already signaled a change in course on Ukraine last month, when the governing coalition of the Social Democrats, the Greens and the Liberals adopted a preliminary deal on a draft budget for 2025. The compromise seen by POLITICO detailed plans to slash future assistance to Ukraine by half to €4 billion to fulfill other spending priorities.

Speaking after the Cabinet approved the draft budget in mid-July, Lindner said Ukraine would have to rely more on funds from “European sources” as well as the frozen Russian assets. But it’s still unclear if, and when, that money will flow.

Contentions over Ukraine aid reportedly deepened the rifts in the ruling coalition in Berlin, already tattered by weeks of internal fights over a series of issues from the budget to welfare. Green leader and Economy Minister Robert Habeck said this week he plans to run for chancellor as the Greens’ candidate in the 2025 federal election, casting doubt on the survival of the governing alliance of which he is a member.

“It’s quite obvious that this coalition has major problems finding common ground,” Habeck said regarding the recent disputes. “The ideas are falling apart.”

For want of a nail!!!!

The Kursk Offensive:

https://t.co/NK1SdaQIPg pic.twitter.com/CR06dkP12A

— Mykola Bielieskov (@MBielieskov) August 17, 2024

More from Shashank Joshi’s article in The Economist:

For the first time since the second world war, Russia has been invaded. On the previous occasion the Red Army’s Ukrainian troops helped beat back the Nazi assault in Russia’s Kursk province. Now it is Ukrainians who are advancing over the same ground. Ukraine’s surprise attack, which began on August 6th, is bold and daring, and could change the narrative of the war. It is also a gamble which could go badly wrong.

Morally and legally, Ukraine has every right to take the fight into Russia. Every state is entitled to defend itself, and that right does not stop at the border. Russia is waging an unprovoked war of conquest in Ukraine, and has conducted thousands of attacks on Ukraine’s Sumy region from over the frontier in Kursk. The troops, kit and bases that enable those attacks are legitimate targets.

Ukraine’s Kursk offensive has already achieved some successes. Its forces have cut through the region, occupying scores of settlements and taking hundreds of prisoners. That has had three immediate effects. One is to boost morale at home, which needed a jolt: Ukraine’s army is on the back foot in the Donbas region and its counter-offensive last year fizzled out. The second is to show international partners that Ukraine can regain the initiative. Encouragingly, America and Germany, among others, have indicated that they are comfortable with their weapons being used on Russian soil.

The third is to expose Russia’s vulnerabilities. Vladimir Putin will use the incursion to reinforce his big lie that Russia is waging a defensive war against the West. But it also adds to the evidence that Mr Putin’s carefully constructed image of strength and control is hollow. He thought he could conquer Ukraine in a few days in 2022, but two years later he still hasn’t. When his former chef led a mutinous march much of the way to Moscow last year, Russian troops stood aside. When Ukraine invaded Kursk, local civilians did not resist.

For all that, Ukraine’s gambit also carries grave risks. Ukraine surely hopes that its Kursk offensive will draw Russian forces away from Donbas, easing the pressure on Ukraine’s beleaguered troops there. But there is little sign that Russia has pulled many troops off the front line. And this cuts both ways: Ukraine has also diverted many of its best forces away from Donbas and into Kursk. Indeed, Russia has continued to advance in eastern Ukraine since August 6th; it is now less than 13km from Pokrovsk, an important crossroads.

Here’s Tatarigami’s latest assessment of the Kursk offensive:

War is a continuation of politics by other means. As the Kursk incursion continues, the military part of this operation is still being written. However, it is fair to say that, regardless of the outcome, this operation has shed light on certain political aspects. 🧵Thread:Image
2/ The first aspect, which has largely gone unnoticed, is the evident ineffectiveness of the so-called military alliances and treaties between Russia and other countries, such as the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO), which includes obligations like NATO’s Article 5Image source: https://ria.ru/20220516/odkb-1788819132.html
3/ Second, it is notable how numerous media personalities associated with pro-Russian views suddenly stopped advocating for freezing the war once the war reached the Kursk lands. Suddenly, the notion of freezing the war at the current lines no longer appears acceptable to them.Image
4/ Such sudden silence from the so-called “peace doves” is not surprising. They have never been genuinely interested in peace but rather in Ukraine’s capitulation and the secession of Ukrainian lands to Russia. Where are these voices now, calling for the war to end in Kursk? 
5/ Let’s examine another pivotal aspect: Russia’s red lines. In the informational space, there are frequent statements about U.S. inconsistency with red lines, contrasted with the much more “real and substantiated” red lines drawn by Russia… 
6/ …the crossing of which, it is claimed, would provoke immediate and devastating retaliation. Yet, each time, Russia has been shown to either move the goalposts or obscure previous threats and red lines in a sea of informational noise, as if those statements were never made.Image
7/ While some political pundits in Russia and the West are attempting to spin the narrative by saying that Ukraine violated agreements with the West by entering Russian territory, this can easily be fact-checked by referring to official statements from authorized representatives 
8/ Matthew Miller, a representative of the U.S. State Department, during the Press Briefing – on August 7th stated that Ukraine’s actions in the Kursk region do not violate restrictions on the use of American weapons supplied to Kyiv.Image
9/ This operation has challenged the established opinion, formed after the unsuccessful 2023 counter-offensive, that a successful large-scale operation at the division or corps level was impossible due to ISR capabilities. Yet, Russia failed to identify the looming offensive 
10/ The operation also highlights a stark contrast: Ukraine’s surgical strikes on moving Russian columns with HIMARS versus Russia’s deliberate and methodical destruction of Ukrainian settlements with artillery, MLRS, and missile strikes. 
11/ Ukrainian forces have managed to take towns with minimal destruction, as demonstrated by the liberation of Kharkiv and Kherson in 2022 and the seizure of Sudzha in 2024. In contrast, Russian forces rely on the destruction of settlements, as evidenced in Mariupol and Avdiivka 
12/ Whether this operation results in a strategic win for Ukraine or not, it has shown that Ukraine can conduct complex, large-scale operations while maintaining higher moral ground and discipline. Perhaps it is too early to write off Ukraine, as some politicians are eager to do 
13/ This might be the best opportunity for the West to reassess its approach to self-imposed restrictions and increase pressure on Russia both diplomatically and militarily (through the provision of aid). It’s time to reconsider policies that are based on ineffective red lines.

With other means. The German is “mit,” which translates as with not by. It is war is politics with other means.

There is one thing about Ukraine’s offensive in Russian Kursk, in its 10th day, which is mind-boggling. Ukrainian army controls a large swath of the Russian land, about 80 small towns and villages. And yet… there is zero protests again the Ukrainian army on these territories.… pic.twitter.com/87ynAUnjxF

— Konstantin Sonin (@k_sonin) August 16, 2024

There is one thing about Ukraine’s offensive in Russian Kursk, in its 10th day, which is mind-boggling. Ukrainian army controls a large swath of the Russian land, about 80 small towns and villages. And yet… there is zero protests again the Ukrainian army on these territories. No peaceful protests, no armed resustance. Zero. Nada. When the Russian army occupied Ukrainian towns, there were always peaceful resistance and grassroots armed resistance, brutally suppressed. In Russian villages, nothing.

The same is going on all across Russia. For decades, schoolchildren learned by heart the names of civilian resistance figures in times of a foreign invasion. If there is a foreign invasion, Russians resist, volunteer for the army, etc. Here is an invasion with thousands of Ukrainian troops and hundreds of tanks on the Russian soil, and no reaction whatsoever. Zero new volunteers, zero grassroots activism in support of those affected by the war.

Remember the word “sleepwalkers”, which aptly described leaders walking their nations in the disaster of the World War? Putin and his henchmen led Russia into the criminal and disastrous war with Ukraine. They led the sleeping nation. What is unbelievable is that now, after 2.5 years of war and hundreds of thousands dead and now the war on its own soil, the Russian nation is still asleep.

Ukraine’s extraordinary incursion into Kursk has changed the narrative of the war – but is a high-risk strategy – I write for @ObserverUK https://t.co/wVoqeriZe2 @RUSI_org

— Jack Watling (@Jack_Watling) August 17, 2024

RUSI’s Jack Watling at The Observer:

The immediate impact of Ukraine’s incursion into the Russian region of Kursk that began on 6 August has been a transformation in the morale of the Ukrainian public and even more so the narrative among Ukraine’s international partners.

The slow but inexorable loss of ground in Donbas that painted a grim picture of retreat has been replaced by images of a dynamic front. While deceptive, this new narrative is important in reminding Ukraine’s international partners that outcomes in war are not inevitable.

Politically, the purpose of the operation is to build leverage ahead of possible negotiations. If Donald Trump wins the US presidency in November, the threat of withdrawing military-technical assistance is likely to force Kyiv to negotiate. The Ukrainian government wants to make sure that if it has to enter that process, it has things that Russia wants to trade for concessions. The Ukrainian military, therefore, must take and hold a sizeable chunk of Russian land for the duration of potential negotiations.

Another important element of the offensive is that Ukraine succeeded in maintaining operational security before launching the assault. This has been a significant problem with past Ukrainian operations, and the competence in the preparation and planning demonstrates lessons being learned from last year’s offensive that will encourage partners about the prospects for future operations.

It helped that Russian military intelligence appears to have suffered once again from a chronic lack of curiosity or imagination as Ukrainian forces were withdrawn from the line in Donbas.

So far Ukrainian forces in Kursk have been tactically successful. Undertrained Russian infantry have again performed poorly when lacking command and control, and confronted by a manoeuvring opponent without fixed points of reference. Surrendering Russian platoons are a symptom of the poor cohesion that exemplified the Russian collapse in Kharkiv in 2022.

While the Kursk operation is politically significant, a parallel series of Ukrainian strikes targeting Russian airfields is more militarily advantageous. Russian aircraft have been central to both the long-range strikes on Ukraine’s critical national infrastructure, and the glide bomb attacks on frontline positions that are inflicting heavy losses on Ukraine. Damaging planes is vital in reducing pressure on Ukraine’s defences.

There is a limit to how successful Ukraine can be. It was suffering from a shortage of troops to rotate and hold the line prior to its operation in Kursk. Now it has pulled together what was available as an operational reserve and committed it to a new axis. There is a limit to how far this force can push before it overextends, meaning it will need to dig in soon if the Ukrainians are to hold the ground until negotiations. But as soon as the front stops being dynamic, the Russians will dig defences and then bring up artillery, electronic warfare complexes and fresh troops. In the short term, the operation has diverted the weight of Russian air-delivered bombs away from Donbas, but this will be temporary. Russia has enough personnel and equipment to fight both fronts. It is less clear that this is true for Ukraine.

The military risks build with time. Having committed its operational reserve, Ukraine will struggle to plug gaps in the line, and it has not yet managed to resolve the threat posed by Russian reconnaissance drones, glide bombs, artillery, electronic warfare and operational-tactical missile complexes. Collectively these capabilities are allowing Russia to continue a steady advance to Pokrovsk, Toretsk and other towns in Donbas. These towns will soon be depopulated, and defending them will be resource-intensive.

The best-case scenario for Ukraine is that its units dig in and Russia – feeling compelled to retake the ground – suffers inordinate losses in trying to push the Ukrainians back. It is also possible, however, that the stretching of Ukrainian resources will increase opportunities for the Russians to find the seams in Ukraine’s defences and make advances elsewhere. If the latter dynamic unfolds, then it is not clear that the seized terrain will carry much weight in negotiations, as Vladimir Putin will be quite willing to absorb the losses to remove the issue from talks.

More at the link.

Already the third documented captured Russian T-80BVM obr.2022 in Sudzha area, Kursk region. https://t.co/TsoVhmLOZq https://t.co/PzWAG78oyA pic.twitter.com/x9T3bgHXDz

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) August 17, 2024

The moment Russian Ka-52 helicopter was shot down from MANPADS in the Kursk region. By the 82nd Brigade of Ukraine.https://t.co/0UTngVVskb https://t.co/ms1SnrlE3X pic.twitter.com/y7mToz9cAE

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) August 17, 2024

And before certain shameless galaxy brains use this headline to yell “OMG SO UKRAINE DOESN’T WANT CEASEFIRE”, no — it’s extremely likely that these “secret efforts” would have to be not more than one of many attempts to raise specific questions via mediators in Qatar (like… pic.twitter.com/7jrnwkaa3E

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) August 17, 2024

And before certain shameless galaxy brains use this headline to yell “OMG SO UKRAINE DOESN’T WANT CEASEFIRE”, no — it’s extremely likely that these “secret efforts” would have to be not more than one of many attempts to raise specific questions via mediators in Qatar (like prisoner exchanges or deported kids) that happen on a regular basis.

And yes, it’s extremely unlikely that Russia would be interested in halting its large-scale missile and drone attacks on Ukrainian energy infrastructure in exchange for no more Ukrainian attacks on its oil depots and refineries.

Because Russia doesn’t need an “energy attacks ceasefire” as badly as Ukraine now. Ukrainian strikes on oil facilities are painful and harmful but not as closely bad as the situation with Ukraine’s national energy grid, which is critical now.

Ukraine’s non-nuclear energy generation has been nullified with Russian missiles at the national level. Down to the point that we had large-scale power outages during peak summer heat.

Ukraine’s energy transition and importing system is extremely vulnerable to new Russian bombing campaigns. And winter is coming soon.

And air defense remains in terrible deficit.

Why would Russia want to stop this now, again?

For the sake of saving some oil depots from Ukrainian drones?

This is naive af.

Russia will go on bombing Ukraine and its critical infrastructure, including energy, heating, healthcare, etc, BECAUSE IT CAN.

Russia will go on trying to eliminate Ukraine in its total war BECAUSE IT CAN.

And the only way to stop Russia is to MAKE IT STOP.

EFFECTIVELY DISABLE ITS ABILITY TO FIGHT THE WAR IN UKRAINE.

Neither “secret efforts,” “just don’t fight back and hope Russia will show mercy,” nor “don’t provoke Putin” will help here.

#Kherson On August 16, Russia attacked

🔴21 villages, the city of Kherson
🔴damaged critical infrastructure, educational institutions
🔴 1 high-rise, 22 private houses
🔴a gas pipeline, private cars,a rescue vehicle
💔6 injured, including 1 child

🎥 Fire after a drone attack pic.twitter.com/ixGE0VSGxa

— Zarina Zabrisky 🇺🇸🇺🇦 (@ZarinaZabrisky) August 17, 2024

Pokrovsk:

A successful battlefield evacuation case by Ukraine’s 47th Mechanized near Pokrovsk, with some nice cooperation between artillery and an M2 Bradley fighting Russians off in the wood line to rescue Ukrainian troops. pic.twitter.com/gwou36tH8y

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) August 17, 2024

Updated map showing Russian advances on the Pokrovsk front and east of Vuhledar.https://t.co/9bidWM3ak3https://t.co/clpQplovF8 https://t.co/Ffd7ILUGUa pic.twitter.com/tMpNAgSYdE

— Rob Lee (@RALee85) August 17, 2024

Myrnohrad:

Another photo after the bombing of a residential building in Myrnograd.
📷 by Anton Shevelov pic.twitter.com/ZPCIm6MWE8

— Stanislav Aseyev (@AseyevStanislav) August 17, 2024

Russia dropped a guided aerial bomb on Myrnohrad, Donetsk region. An unfinished 9 story residential building and a supermarket nearby were hit. At least three people injured, there might be more people under the debris.

Myrnohrad literally means “peaceful city” in Ukrainian… pic.twitter.com/HXXzLEOQkP

— Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en) August 17, 2024

Kharkiv Oblast:

Not sure what gets me more here: the lady selling garden flowers by phone light, the dad getting a bouquet for his little girl, or her wishing them a quiet night—no Russian missiles. pic.twitter.com/MxjOsBVlEy

— Maria Avdeeva (@maria_avdv) August 17, 2024

The day in Kharkiv ends with air raid alert.
We had 8 of them today, combined they lasted over 8 hours, with the last one still ongoing. pic.twitter.com/lMqLMvWPXb

— Kate from Kharkiv (@BohuslavskaKate) August 17, 2024

Dawn brought tragedy to Kharkiv Oblast: a 49-year-old woman lost her life to russian shelling. Sumy rocked by an Iskander missile, two civilians injured. Kramatorsk’s homes shattered, rescuers saved a man from the rubble. Myrnohrad mourns one dead, four wounded. Each strike… pic.twitter.com/cxKoxNWy7n

— Iryna Voichuk (@IrynaVoichuk) August 17, 2024

Dawn brought tragedy to Kharkiv Oblast: a 49-year-old woman lost her life to russian shelling. Sumy rocked by an Iskander missile, two civilians injured. Kramatorsk’s homes shattered, rescuers saved a man from the rubble. Myrnohrad mourns one dead, four wounded. Each strike deepens the scar on Ukraine’s soul.
#RussiaisATerroristState

Sumy Oblast:

Russian strike on Sumy, Ukraine. By preliminary information, it was an Iskander missile. It hit civilian infrastructure. Two people are injured, civilian vehicles are burning, building and shop facades damaged.

Imagine if the missile hit the residential buildings…

📹: SESU pic.twitter.com/y26Kyn8L19

— Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en) August 17, 2024

Earlier today, russia struck a parking lot in Sumy. pic.twitter.com/M12ttpnnra

— Kate from Kharkiv (@BohuslavskaKate) August 17, 2024

The aftermath of a Russian strike on Sumy this morning.

People were sleeping peacefully when Russia decided to “liberate” them.

📹: Radio Svoboda https://t.co/tSdTRChF40 pic.twitter.com/Hlqdv9YIBC

— Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en) August 17, 2024

More on one of the Russian illegals traded back to Russia in the recent prisoner exchange.

Strange as it seems, I find it plausible that a valuable Russian illegal in Poland, and with plans to enter Ukraine, might have been tasked in such a way that meant he’d have had a better understanding that invasion was likely than many very senior Russian gov’t officials. https://t.co/kHRFMMmyyJ

— Shashank Joshi (@shashj) August 17, 2024

El Ipendiente has the details: (machine translated from the Spanish)

The life of Pablo González or Pavel Rubtsov took a 180 degree turn in the early morning hours of February 28, 2022 when he was detained in Przemyśl, a dozen kilometers from the Ukrainian border. The Spanish-Russian citizen, who collaborated as a journalist freelance for various Spanish media, he intended to cover the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which had started four days earlier. However, the Interior Intelligence Services (ABW), alerted by the Ukrainian Intelligence that had intercepted him on February 6, They suspected his activities and arrested him in the company of a Polish journalist with whom he had a romantic relationship. The charges against him were espionage and he was kept in prison. She was released on charges, as advanced by VSquare.

Several foreign journalists based in Warsaw have placed him here since 2019 and always in the company of a Polish journalist, who VSquare called Natalia K. because it threatens with legal actions whoever reveals his identity. The Polish Prosecutor’s Office has revealed her name, Magdalena, and the initial of her last name, Ch. There are charges against her. He is the one who introduced him to colleagues in the profession, local politicians and activists. And he was the one who paid for Pablo González’s legal assistance in the first months. “He swallowed my legend,” he wrote in one of his reports, according to Agentsvo. According to sources close to the journalist, he did not know that he was still married.

Together they covered the migration crisis of late 2021, when Belarus was trying to destabilize by favoring the arrival of Syrian and Afghan migrants to Poland. Back then, González confessed to the reporter at a dinner of The world Alberto Rojas, as it counts in a conversation Chronicles of the Russian steppe, that Russia had plans to invade Ukraine and that that Belarus operation was only a smokescreen. However, González maintained the opposite on his social networks.

Much, much more at the link.

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These puppies, named Fida and Kin, were rescued by the soldier of the International Legion, Tony, in a completely destroyed house on the most shelled street in the frontline Kharkiv region.

“All the houses around were destroyed, and on a neighboring street, a column of smoke… pic.twitter.com/TSaFjgVqm4

— Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en) August 17, 2024

These puppies, named Fida and Kin, were rescued by the soldier of the International Legion, Tony, in a completely destroyed house on the most shelled street in the frontline Kharkiv region.

“All the houses around were destroyed, and on a neighboring street, a column of smoke from fresh Russian shelling was seen. The little ones miraculously survived…”

📹: animal.rescue.kharkiv/Instagram

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Foreign Affairs Open Thread: Tim Walz Went to China… Many Times!

by Anne Laurie|  August 17, 20246:53 pm| 122 Comments

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How will the FBI can explain this photograph of Walz beaming next to a CCP operative https://t.co/0htUIqdvVA pic.twitter.com/jTGXPTDJxe

— tyson brody (@tysonbrody) August 16, 2024

.@Tim_Walz has had a decades-long history with China — promoting exchanges between Chinese and American citizens, but criticizing its government and the Chinese Communist Party for human rights abuses and bad governance. By @amyyqin @KeithBradsher: https://t.co/2B621qz1Nz

— Edward Wong (@ewong) August 11, 2024

In case y’all didn’t have a high enough opinion of Coach Walz already… “Tim Walz’s Long Relationship With China Defies Easy Stereotypes”: [gift link]

In the summer of 1989, Tim Walz faced a difficult choice.

A newly minted college graduate from small-town Nebraska, he had just turned down a stable, 9-to-5 job offer and moved across the world to teach at a local high school in China. He had made it as far as Hong Kong, just across the Chinese border, when People’s Liberation Army tanks rolled into Tiananmen Square to crush pro-democracy protests.

Rumors were flying about a possible civil war in China. Many foreigners, including most American teachers, had fled the country. Should he go back home or continue his journey into China?

He decided to go in.

“It was my belief at that time that the diplomacy was going to happen on many levels, certainly people to people,” Mr. Walz recalled in 2014 during a congressional hearing marking the 25th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square crackdown. “The opportunity to be in a Chinese high school at that critical time seemed to me to be really important.”

The one year that Mr. Walz spent teaching English in southern China was the start of what would become a decades-long relationship with the country. As high school teachers in Nebraska and Minnesota, Mr. Walz and his wife, Gwen, regularly led trips to China in the 1990s and early 2000s to introduce students to China’s history and culture. Mr. Walz has said that he has traveled to China some 30 times, including for his honeymoon.

That deep history of engagement with China reflects a lesser-known international dimension of the Democratic vice-presidential candidate. If elected vice president, Mr. Walz would bring to the White House unusually extensive personal experience in China — a history that supporters say could be an asset at a time of volatile relations between Washington and Beijing…

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Republicans, by contrast, have already begun to seize on the governor’s personal experience in China to accuse him of being soft on a country that is now seen as America’s greatest military and economic rival.

Richard Grenell, who served as ambassador to Germany and acting director of national intelligence in the Trump administration, said on X that “Communist China” was “very happy” with Ms. Harris’s choice of Mr. Walz as her running mate. Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas said that Mr. Walz owed “the American people an explanation about his unusual, 35-year relationship with Communist China.”…

Mr. Walz was determined to share with his students the marvel of discovering the wider world beyond small-town America, according to interviews with four former students and a professor who went on the yearly trips that the Walzes had organized in the 1990s.

The students, most of whom had never traveled abroad, barely spent any time in the classroom. In addition to sightseeing, they met with tai chi masters, practiced their chopstick skills at family-style meals and tried Chinese calligraphy…

As a congressman, Mr. Walz did not shy away from talking about his experience in China.

But he was also critical of the Chinese government from the start. And over his 12-year tenure in the House, Mr. Walz’s criticisms of China’s human rights record became even sharper, especially as the Chinese government took a more authoritarian turn under Xi Jinping.

Mr. Walz served on the Congressional-Executive Commission on China, a bipartisan group of lawmakers focused on monitoring and reporting on human rights and the rule of law in China. Transcripts show that other commission members often praised Mr. Walz for his expertise…

1. They're scared. Really scared.
2. With Comer in charge, this can only be good for Walz :)
3. This is "weaponizing the government" and it's what authoritarians do.

House GOP sets its sights on Walz https://t.co/kKj6uP7War via @politico

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) August 16, 2024

Expertise?!? Experience?!? Is that really what you want in a legislator? Per Politico, “House GOP sets its sights on Walz”:

House Republicans are setting their sights on Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, Democrats’ vice presidential candidate — the latest indication that they are using their slim majority to go after former President Donald Trump’s political opponents.

Oversight Chair James Comer (R-Ky.) on Friday announced that he is opening an investigation into Walz’s work related to China, including coordinating student trips, and sent a letter to FBI Director Christopher Wray requesting a swath of documents and any correspondence with Walz related to China.

“Americans should be deeply concerned that Governor Walz, Kamala Harris’s vice-presidential running mate, has a longstanding and cozy relationship with China. …The American people deserve to fully understand how deep Governor Walz’s relationship with China goes,” Comer said in a statement…

Comer has launched sweeping investigations into Chinese entities as part of his work as chair of the House Oversight Committee, which has a broad jurisdictional lane. But he’s also used the panel to delve into the party’s political opponents. While he told POLITICO that he wouldn’t be calling Harris in, he recently requested documents related to her work on the U.S.-Mexico border.

His most high-profile investigation — co-leading an impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden that largely focused on the business deals of his family members — has quietly wrapped after months. Republicans, however, don’t have the votes to impeach Biden, after investigators failed to convince dozens of their colleagues that Biden had committed a crime or an impeachable offense.

Walz should be commended for spending time in China, not criticized. We need way, way more people going to China to study, to research, to do business, and just to slack around. You want to understand a place, especially one that is a serious rival, you have to see it firsthand. https://t.co/NvXwjs060a

— Ian Johnson (@iandenisjohnson) August 13, 2024

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