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It is not hopeless, and we are not helpless.

Thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege.

Disappointing to see gov. newsom with his finger to the wind.

Peak wingnut was a lie.

Trump’s cabinet: like a magic 8 ball that only gives wrong answers.

The revolution will be supervised.

New McCarthy, same old McCarthyism.

Marge, god is saying you’re stupid.

Impressively dumb. Congratulations.

I’d like to think you all would remain faithful to me if i ever tried to have some of you killed.

Whoever he was, that guy was nuts.

“Loving your country does not mean lying about its history.”

The lights are all blinking red.

“Can i answer the question? No you can not!”

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That meeting sounds like a shotgun wedding between a shitshow and a clusterfuck.

One of our two political parties is a cult whose leader admires Vladimir Putin.

Our messy unity will be our strength.

Today in our ongoing national embarrassment…

Some judge needs to shut this circus down soon.

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Monday Evening Open Thread: The Kidz Are Doing Their Best

by Anne Laurie|  August 12, 20247:26 pm| 120 Comments

This post is in: Elections 2024, Kamala Harris for President, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Our Failed Media Experiment

I get a lot of "who runs the KHQ accounts" q's and I think it is important to note that it's a group of feral gen-zers with an endless stream of good ideas and minimal oversight.https://t.co/OO2iL1NwaB

— Rob Flaherty (@Rob_Flaherty) August 12, 2024

The ‘professionals’ (Ben Smith, Editor-in-chief of @semafor, Former @nytimes media columnist, @buzzfeednews EIC)… maybe not so much:

Is this just clickbait? Hey, let’s have a bunch of people run in primaries all summer then the winner ads water to the freeze dried billion dollar campaign operation in September!

He can’t really be this clueless about how US campaigns work.

Can he? https://t.co/OKeP6ScKQQ

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) August 12, 2024

I dunno. Weeks of fantastical blabbering about how it could be anyone other than Harris, & that it could wait until the convention, showed most ppl in the press have no idea about much of what goes on in campaigns, or the procedures & laws under which they operate.

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) August 12, 2024

If it doesn’t involve trying to influence the press most of the press has little or no interest in it. It’s a reason most in the press understand less about campaign finance than the average 22 yo finance assistant who’s been working for a Congressional campaign for 3 hrs

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) August 12, 2024

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The Walz Content We All Need

by @heymistermix.com|  August 12, 20244:47 pm| 252 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

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Tim Walz has a restored Scout, because of course he does.  I wrote about my experience with a Scout as a kid a few years ago.

Here he is explaining how to use an 8-track from the driver’s seat of his Scout:

The seats look original to me, as does the spare tire cover. I can’t imagine it’s an original engine because they were shit, but maybe someone babied this thing.

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JD Can’t Serve

by @heymistermix.com|  August 12, 20242:11 pm| 200 Comments

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JD Can't Serve

This is from drag queen Pattiegonia’s Instagram.  And, yes, bottom left, JD Vance in drag at Yale Law.  That’s the same JD who said yesterday that Tim Walz supports kidnapping kids who want to transition if their parents don’t agree.  Here’s the truth on that:

Walz has never signed any legislation, nor expressed support for legislation, that would allow the state to remove children from their parent’s custody if they didn’t consent to gender transition treatment. Walz has come under attack from Republicans for an April 2023 law he signed that protects transgender patients, parents and healthcare providers from out-of-state laws that would punish them for receiving care. Among other provisions, the law gives “temporary emergency jurisdiction” to state courts to arbitrate custody disputes that cross state lines and involve a debate between parents over the care in question. It does not give the state the authority to remove children from their parents’ custody for declining to pursue gender transition care, a Minnesota LGBTQ advocacy organization director told the Washington Post.

So, as Pattie asks, is JD a bitter homophobe because he couldn’t serve?  Your guess is as good as mine, but I’m not ruling it out.

(BTW here’s what serve means in this context.  It’s short for a something that many might find offensive so don’t click this link if you don’t want to be offended.)

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Stump Speeches, So Boring

by @heymistermix.com|  August 12, 202411:12 am| 327 Comments

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Stump Speeches, So Boring

Kamala Harris and Tim Walz are going to repeat themselves, with variations and additions, for the next few days. That’s just how it works. Here’s a good thread on why that bores the media:
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campaigns understand this, they get that most people are not watching youtube livestreams of their stumps speeches. so a big part of campaigning is figuring out how to *break through* to these lesser engaged populations.

one way is the tour + stump speech.

this gets interested people out to see you speak, hear your (and your surrogates’) pitches, gets clips on the local news, etc. but this means the stump speech is **the same** everywhere you go. a simple message you are repeating in lots of media markets to push it through to the non-junkies

heres the thing: for reporters who follow the campaigns around, this is *boring.* hearing the same speech 2 or 3 times…kinda annoying. hearing it 2 or 3 times a day gets stale real fast. early on there is enough tweaking that they can fixate on the changes and read tea leaves. later…not so much

bc these are solipsistic morons, when they get bored, they tend to impute that to the campaign. “i’m bored, so the speech must be stale. the campaign must be Out of Ideas.” a disconnect between how they receive the campaign messaging and how normal people do. this is a problem campaigns must manage!

trump is not like this. he goes up and rambles extemporaneously. most of it is nonsense. but it is *different.* and therefore interesting, and exciting. political reporters enjoy this constant newness more the boring (but effective) repeated stump speech. this is a big reason they like trump.

“he makes our job less boring” is somehow an even worse reason to give trump glowing coverage than “he generates clicks/sells papers.” unfortunately, our political media is filled with absolute dullards who cannot stop gazing at their own navels. this is a major driving force of pro-trump coverage.

whether they do it consciously or not, this is also why they clean up his ramblings. if they *punished* him for it by printing them verbatim in the paper, then he might stop. and that’d be bad! then he’d be normal and boring. so instead they facilitate him. for their own amusement.

Marcy Wheeler makes another important point:

This is actually the purpose rallies are supposed to serve at this point of a campaign, even one launched a mere three weeks ago. These crowds are important not (just) because they lead Trump to melt down, but because they’re a necessary way to catch up on volunteer recruitment Biden hadn’t been doing. This is why Walz, especially, makes an ask at every one of these rallies. This is why Kamala always talks about the hard work ahead.

This is about recruiting bodies to do voter identification, persuasion, and ultimately GOTV. This is about basic campaign work.

Trump, meanwhile, has sent JD out to speak to empty parking lots.

Anyway, you probably all know this but there are a lot of people who don’t.

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Monday Morning Open Thread: Something’s Happening Here…

by Anne Laurie|  August 12, 20247:25 am| 346 Comments

This post is in: Elections 2024, Kamala Harris for President, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

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(Ann Telnaes via GoComics.com)

Week 1 done and it was one for the history books. Some thoughts from the road. pic.twitter.com/zHD2adf1sR

— Tim Walz (@Tim_Walz) August 12, 2024

Don’t get caught up in some indie record that’s much "cooler than ours" and register for our call below!

Disclaimer: Taylor is not one of our special guests, but she is always welcome to show up to our party! https://t.co/IWNXKomx3f

— Swifties For Kamala (@Swifties4Kamala) August 12, 2024

THIS TUESDAY!!!
Join KAMALA NATION as we welcome the next Vice President GOV TIM WALZ in Southern California for a Harris Victory Fundraiser event!
RSVP: https://t.co/CIyceqCoum pic.twitter.com/glDwskHGNG

— KAMALA NATION (@KamalaNation) August 11, 2024

Our webpage is up! https://t.co/hXwMtPSkqk. Go there for more info on our Aug 28 livestream fundraiser show and concert with @jeffslate @emmaswiftsings @paranoiacs @ezrafurman and more! Don’t you dare miss it! pic.twitter.com/7SoCrtt1ss

— Dylan Fans for Harris (@dylanfansHarris) August 11, 2024

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hot girls vote https://t.co/QdkyCwy8z0 https://t.co/DRhL3KmUNh

— kesha (@KeshaRose) August 12, 2024

Something is changing in our politics. #WhiteDudesforHarris is just one small part of a tectonic shift among white people in America. More and more of us are rejecting fear and division, and embracing a vision for our country where we all do better because we all have the same… pic.twitter.com/XeSG8eFCJj

— White Dudes for Harris (@dudes4harris) August 11, 2024

With great pride for the work she has done throughout her career For The People and for what she will do for our freedoms and our Democracy, we welcomed home the next President of the United States — our Vice President, @KamalaHarris! -NP pic.twitter.com/njtJ8wB5It

— Nancy Pelosi (@TeamPelosi) August 12, 2024

After pushing out Biden, the media assumed they'd spend the summer doing DEMS IN DISARRAY stories about a blitz primary leading to a 1968-like DNC and instead, Biden endorsed Harris, everyone got in line, money flowed in, polls ticked up, and they have no clue what to do now.

— scary lawyerguy (@scarylawyerguy) August 11, 2024

I think the thing that makes him craziest is that she is creating a massive amount of joy in America and he needs people to be absolutely miserable.

Joy is contagious and he has no idea how to stop it.

— Florida Chris (@chrislongview) August 11, 2024

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Excellent Read: ‘Men On The Verge Of A Nervous Breakdown’

by Anne Laurie|  August 12, 202412:58 am| 117 Comments

This post is in: Elections 2024, Open Threads, Republicans in Disarray!

“If the only possible engagement with any or every other person is to antagonize or dominate, you will wind up lonely.” -⁦@david_j_roth⁩ https://t.co/oOeQiFl824

— Drew Magary (@drewmagary) August 8, 2024


 
GOP men, that is… Dave Roth, for Defector:

… Both greasy strivers like Rufo and also your more warped and willful elected officials on the right all understand their jobs this way and behave accordingly. If they seem somehow unlike actual people, if they are too big and too mad and too much, it is because they are now full-time content creators, and so actually not quite like actual people at all. They are all pinned into a deteriorating orbit around the dense collapsing star at the center of the conservative universe, but they have committed to at least make their turns around Donald Trump’s imperial bulk as loudly as possible. Again, this is the job.

The result of that work is a chunky slurry of gossip and fantasy and rank bigotry blasting from a thousand gilded hydrants at every hour of the day; it amounts to a grim sort of fan service catering to an even grimmer fanbase.
This has limited public appeal, just in the sense of not being the sort of thing that most people are interested in hearing about, let alone to the exclusion of any other topic and in the most vexed n’ fervid keening imaginable, and that poses an obvious problem for a political party that has entirely given itself over to the making of this kind of noise. The bigger issue, though, is that these imperatives only run in one direction—louder, uglier, more confrontational, further out, more. If the obvious tactical challenge here is that this shit absolutely sucks and most people hate it, the more fundamental one is that the internal incentives are such that it can only ever get worse.

The fantasy of a chastened or refined Trump is, and has long been, the dumbest dream of political media dorks; the followers that put this prissy old dunce at the center of their world, and the mediocrities and opportunists who identified his rancid charisma as their own tickets to ride, know that they can only ever and always do more. This is the nature of this type of content-creation gig, which can never turn off or calm down, but also this is the dead end that conservative politics was steering towards long before Trump took the wheel. A politics whose most fundamental idea is Make Progress Stop Happening would inevitably find itself fetishizing the torment of having to live in a world in which other people, who are not even you, are somehow supposed to matter just as much…

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… If the current Democratic campaign gambit of painting contemporary American conservatism as the province of lonely fuming weirdos, sociopathic local gentry, and busybody billionaires is working—if it feels not just overdue but liberating to be able to call this goof troop of aggro freaks and slavering mediocrities by their rightful names—it is mostly because it is so obviously, manifestly correct. There are other, nicer names for whatever this is, but none quite so accurate.

But that contrast is important, too. Rufo’s jag of delirious nastiness looks weirder and uglier—or, maybe, just as weird and ugly as it is—because of the simple and humane assertion to which it is responding. The same goes for GOP Vice Presidential candidate J.D. Vance’s answer, on Wednesday, to a question from local media asking, “What makes you smile, what makes you happy?” Vance grimaced and huffed and answered, “Well, I smile at a lot of things, including bogus questions from the media, man,” before delivering a spectacularly mirthless laugh and steering things back towards what he was angry about. It was a bad answer, badly delivered, but it was also a disciplined one. The idea was to get back to being upset, both in the broadest possible sense and more specifically about the litany of vibe-y cable-news fixations that define the Trump/Vance campaign, such as it exists.

Again, some of this is just how conservative politics works; in lieu of any solution to any problem, lavishing attention upon the problem and identifying it as what the other guys want becomes the move more or less by default. But the limitations of this approach are not just obvious but overbearing. If the only answer available to the vice presidential nominee when asked What stuff do you like is a tremulous Go fuck yourself, something has gone wrong; if the only possible engagement with any or every other person is to antagonize or dominate, you will wind up lonely. There’s no levity or recognizable human brightness to be found here, but there is also no air, nothing but grievance and its performance…

Such a movement would be unstable, of course, but all the more so because it can no longer speak or see beyond itself. This is the conflict that Trumpism can’t resolve, the thing that makes even the most gently lobbed of softball questions impossible to handle and what makes an assertion like Walz’s—other people are just as real as you, and they deserve respect—not just unanswerable, but incomprehensible. It’s not just the idea that Walz is expressing but the very idea of someone like Walz expressing it that is so fundamentally confounding to operators like Rufo; the concept of a normal, empathetic, passably happy heterosexual white man who is not constantly afraid and angry and arguing with everyone around him simply does not compute…

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War for Ukraine Day 900: Russia Sets a Fire at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant

by Adam L Silverman|  August 11, 20246:55 pm| 28 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

A quick housekeeping note. Rosie is still doing very well between treatments. Her next one is a week from tomorrow. Thank you all for the good thoughts, well wishes, prayers, and donations.

900 days since the beginning of Russia’s full-scale invasion. Over 10 years of its war against Ukraine.

Yet, Ukraine stands. And we will prevail – thanks to our defenders, the support of our partners and the ordinary people who contribute to victory every day.#StandWithUkraine pic.twitter.com/gy5E1qpTW9

— MFA of Ukraine 🇺🇦 (@MFA_Ukraine) August 11, 2024

The Russians have lit a fire at the Zaprozhzhia Nuclear Power Plant. There’s a lot of speculation this is a demonstration intended to deter Ukraine from trying to seize or attack the nuclear power plant in Kursk Oblast. Which is silly because the Ukrainians already stated they had no intention of messing with it.

Enerhodar. We have recorded from Nikopol that the Russian occupiers have started a fire on the territory of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant.

Currently, radiation levels are within norm. However, as long as the Russian terrorists maintain control over the nuclear plant, the… pic.twitter.com/TQUi3BJg4J

— Volodymyr Zelenskyy / Володимир Зеленський (@ZelenskyyUa) August 11, 2024

Enerhodar. We have recorded from Nikopol that the Russian occupiers have started a fire on the territory of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant.

Currently, radiation levels are within norm. However, as long as the Russian terrorists maintain control over the nuclear plant, the situation is not and cannot be normal.

Since the first day of its seizure, Russia has been using the Zaporizhzhia NPP only to blackmail Ukraine, all of Europe, and the world.

We are waiting for the world to react, waiting for the IAEA to react. Russia must be held accountable for this. Only Ukrainian control over the Zaporizhzhia NPP can guarantee a return to normalcy and complete safety.

Not sure. Zaporizhzhia has plenty of Russian officials on site now and Russia wants to deploy it in future. Would be an odd threat to make. Surely russia would have more direct threats it could make (and has been happy to hint at) if Ukraine targets Kursk NPP?

— laurence norman (@laurnorman) August 11, 2024

Tonight, Ukraine survived one of the biggest russian drone attacks pic.twitter.com/AlDPuLk8eL

— Kate from Kharkiv (@BohuslavskaKate) August 11, 2024

Mobile fire groups shoot down russian Shahed drones.

📹: Air Command West pic.twitter.com/cYSIi1vcMF

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) August 11, 2024

Unfortunately, Ukrainian air defense could not stop all of the inbound threats.

Remains of a shot down Russian missile fell on a residential building in Brovary, Kyiv region last night.

4 year old boy and his 35 year old dad were killed. Their bodies were found under the debris of the building.

Three people are badly injured, including a 13 year old kid. https://t.co/etyjZ8KT13 pic.twitter.com/E6tN9jH5Ed

— Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en) August 11, 2024

Here is President Zelenskyy’s address from earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

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Just as Air Defense Protects Lives, Lifting Restrictions on Long-Range Strikes Will Save Thousands of Human Lives – Address by the President

11 August 2024 – 20:45

Dear Ukrainians!

Our priority remains the maximum strengthening of Ukraine’s air shield. Our air defense, our combat aviation. Every night and every day during this war, Ukrainians suffer from Russian strikes. Much, indeed much, has already been done to improve our defense capabilities, but not everything necessary is in place yet. We do not stop working with our partners to acquire more air defense systems and to ensure better quality training and supplies for all units of our skies’ defenders.

Of course, one of the key elements of any state’s air shield is combat aviation. At all levels, we must continue to tell our partners what is needed to close the Ukrainian skies to Shahed drones and missiles. Including North Korean missiles.

Last night, our warriors shot down over fifty Shahed drones. There were also four ballistic missiles – the Russians launched them from the Voronezh region. We document all locations from which the Russian army launches strikes – including the Belgorod region, the Kursk region, and other areas. Since the beginning of this summer alone, almost 2,000 strikes have been made on our Sumy region from districts of the Kursk region only: artillery, mortars, drones. We also document every missile strike. And every one of these strikes deserves a fair response.

Today, unfortunately, one of the North Korean missiles killed two people in the Kyiv region – a father and a son, the boy was 4 years old. My condolences to their family and loved ones. Three other people were injured. They have received the necessary assistance. Our experts have precisely identified the type of missile, and we know the exact area of Russian territory from which it was launched. It is entirely fair for Ukrainians to be able to respond to this terror in the way necessary to stop it. With appropriate long-range strikes on missile launch sites in Russia, with appropriate destruction of Russian military logistics. Terror must always be defeated – this is the fundamental principle of protecting life. And this is what we will continue to talk about with our partners – just as air defense protects lives, lifting restrictions on long-range strikes will save thousands of human lives.

Today I will also commend the rescuers of the State Emergency Service of Ukraine – all the staff of the Service. I thank every one of you who responds to sites after Russian strikes across all our regions, clears the rubble, extinguishes fires, and provides first aid. And overall ensures the rescue of our people. I am confident that all Ukrainians are grateful to you. And today, I especially want to thank the rescuers of the Kyiv region: Vitaliy Kharchenko, Mykola Zolotar, Vadym Hevko, Anatoliy Rybka, Viktor Zhukovych – all of whom are working in the city of Brovary. Thank you and your colleagues! And also, the rescuers of the Kharkiv region: Oleksandr Hlushchenko, Andriy Yermolenko, Vadym Hnatenko, Oleksandr Lyman, Mykola Kryvolapov. Thank you! The State Emergency Service of Ukraine in the Donetsk region – everyone who works for the sake of our people. Especially – Serhiy Ishchenko, Mykola Pustovalov, Ivan Holovashchenko, Volodymyr Derenko and Viktor Kartashov. Also, the Kherson region – the entire staff of the State Emergency Service of Ukraine in the region and especially – Anton Oliynyk, Vitaliy Parkhomenko, Yuriy Chervynskyi, Ruslan Vlasenko and Yevheniy Makarenko. Thank you, guys!

I thank everyone who stays in Ukraine and with us, with Ukraine!

Glory to Ukraine!

Kursk Oblast, Russia:

Picture of the day from Russia’s Kursk region

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) August 11, 2024

From Emil Kastehemi of the Blackbird Group:

Kursk offensive, situational update:

The operation has been ongoing for a almost a week. During the last days, Ukraine has not made very significant progress, but they have started solidifying their positions in the newly captured areas.

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As expected, it took Russia a few days to transfer units to the area, and they will likely continue to do so in the coming days. With their current forces, the Russians have managed to prevent any more serious breakthroughs from happening. Local counterattacks have started. 2/ 
Russians are likely still holding some central and eastern parts of Sudzha, while the Ukrainians are continuing operations in the area. In Martynovka, Russians counterattacked and likely pushed Ukrainians out of the village. Reportedly Ukrainians are trying to get it back. 3/ 
In the direction of Korenevo, Ukrainains have not been able to enter the city, at least not with a large force. There are some uncertainities in the zones of control especially on the western and northern flanks of the area of operations. 4/ 
Russia still doesn’t have a solid control of the frontline or the state border. For example, yesterday evening, multiple Russian channels reported Ukrainians operating deep in the direction of Belitsa. Sabotage and reconnaissance groups still seem to get through elsewhere too. 5/ 
The general situation of the Kursk offensive doesn’t look particularly good. After a week of fighting, neither Korenevo or Sudzha are fully in Ukrainian control, and the Russians have also likely blocked the northern direction. This isn’t a very desirable situation. 6/ 
However, for Ukraine, the situation isn’t particularly bad either. They are still holding onto most of the gained ground despite Russian counterattacks. Even with more Russian troops in the general area, Ukraine still holds the initiative. 7/ 
After more Russian reinforcements arrive, operational success is increasingly difficult to achieve, and there’s less room for the element of surprise. Committing more troops also increases risks, especially as the situation in eastern Ukraine is still difficult. 8/ 
There have been Russian rumours about Ukraine soon launching an attack either towards Rylsk or Glushkovo. They could achieve some success there, but there would be a limited effect to the general situation. The most valuable places in the Kursk oblast would still be safe. 9/Image

The main question is:

What can Ukraine achieve, if it spends more manpower and equipment to take more border villages in the Kursk direction? There’s a limited amount of benefit to be gained from simply controlling more land. 10/ 

A larger land area would, of course, have more weight in possible peace negotiations in the future. Even if Ukraine were to reach the Rylsk-Korenevo-Sudzha line, it would likely still be less valuable than many of the territories currently occupied by Russia in Ukraine. 11/Image
Some have argued that expanding the zone of control could force the Russians to shift their focus to Kursk at the expense of other directions, because of political reasons. I’m not entirely convinced the Russians will do this, as there are other possible scenarios too. 12/ 
It’s possible that the Russians would try to freeze the front and let Ukraine stay in the occupied area, assuming that the issue of a few dozen towns and villages can be solved in future negotiations, as the priority is to achieve the set political goals inside Ukraine. 13/ 
In this situation, some additional Ukrainian forces would be tied to guard and hold an expanded secondary direction, while the fight in Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia, Luhansk and Kharkiv would continue just as intensively. 14/ 
The Kursk offensive is increasingly beginning to look like a medium risk – medium reward operation. There’s no massive game-changing objectives to be achieved, but there’s also no likely catastrophes on the horizon. 15/ 

The best case scenario for Ukraine would probably be the following:

Russia decides it’s not acceptable to leave any areas to Ukrainian hands, and will divert significant resources even from the most critical places and to get every square kilometre back, despite the losses. 16/ 

This would severely attrit the Russians, ease the pressure in other directions, and maybe even make it possible for Ukrainians to improve the tactical situation locally in the east. However, as usual, the reality will most likely set somewhere in between. 17/ 
Regardless of whether the Ukrainians continue their advance, they have proved that occupation of relatively large areas is no longer a privilege of Russia. The war is now even more concretely a war on Russian soil as well, and Russia must take this into account in many ways. 18/ 
Our team at @Black_BirdGroup continues to follow the situation with multiple daily updates. It’s been an intensive week! 19/19

Our team at @Black_BirdGroup continues to follow the situation with multiple daily updates. It’s been an intensive week! 19/19

Link to our interactive map:https://t.co/B0lxYD4gFv

— Emil Kastehelmi (@emilkastehelmi) August 11, 2024

As always, this is an OSINT assessment and has information gaps. The language used in the thread reflects this, and I even mentioned that there are uncertainities.

— Emil Kastehelmi (@emilkastehelmi) August 11, 2024

Today I spoke with Ukrainian troops at the Ukraine-Russia border in Sumy region. Morale was high and they were still on the offensive. Jets roared overhead; explosions in the distance. More later but here’s my first @FT report on Kursk incursion, Day 6. https://t.co/sWzJaiY8yv

— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) August 11, 2024

From The Financial Times:

Russia has failed to push back Ukrainian troops in the Kursk region despite sending in reinforcements as the incursion enters its sixth day, Ukrainian soldiers involved in its army’s operation told the Financial Times on Sunday.

Speaking near the international border, the troops said they remained in Russian territory.

Russian general Valery Gerasimov has repeatedly attempted to portray the situation as being under control, with the defence ministry posting videos on Sunday of fighter jets and helicopters purportedly striking columns of Ukrainian equipment.

But verified videos and photographs show Ukrainian troops and equipment have advanced 30km inside Russia since the operation began on Tuesday, moving further into Kursk and occupying the town of Sudzha near the Russian border.

“We are going deeper,” said Denys, a Ukrainian soldier who has made three rotations into Russian territory since the incursion began. Kyiv’s troops still had the upper hand despite Russia bringing in reinforcements, he added, as a Ukrainian fighter jet zoomed overhead.

His unit, which the FT is not identifying at the request of Denys and his senior officers, had been rotated to the area from the eastern Donetsk region more than a week ago to take part in the offensive.

Another soldier, Kostyantyn, said the early success of the surprise operation had “really lifted our spirits”. “We feel confident of Ukrainian victory,” he added, before driving back into the fight.

Ukraine’s president Volodymyr Zelenskyy broke five days of silence on Saturday night to refer to his forces’ incursion into Russia publicly for the first time.

Zelenskyy said his commander-in-chief Oleksandr Syrskyi had reported to him about “the frontline situation and on our actions to push the war out into the aggressor’s territory”.

“Ukraine is proving that it really knows how to restore justice and guarantees exactly the kind of pressure that is needed — pressure on the aggressor,” he added.

A Ukrainian defence ministry official told the FT that they were being tight-lipped on details of the operation because they were “waiting to see how it develops first”.

The ultimate aim of Ukraine’s incursion — which is using some of its best and most elite brigades — remains unclear. But the operation has demonstrated that Russia’s border defences are still weak more than a year after Ukraine’s first mini-incursion and has given Kyiv a much-needed morale boost.

Analysts have said Ukraine may be seeking to use the Kursk offensive to improve its position in potential talks. It is losing territory and men in eastern Ukraine and is still struggling to resolve ammunition and manpower shortages.

Videos posted by Ukrainian troops on Saturday showed them joyously hoisting the Ukrainian flag on a Russian village council building and allegedly telling residents to get ready for a referendum — both tactics often used by Russian forces in Ukraine. Several dozen captured Russian soldiers were also filmed being driven into Ukraine.

More at the link!

Ukraine’s 225th Assault Battalion and 80th Air Assault Brigade are both taking part in the operation in Kursk. Both had elements in the Bakhmut/Chasiv Yar area previously.https://t.co/H1fDY980xmhttps://t.co/atjljarwUuhttps://t.co/98CkHLJBdzhttps://t.co/4pqGAivkDo https://t.co/qtUx8ysmLl

— Rob Lee (@RALee85) August 11, 2024

Since there have been numerous articles and statements on Telegram channels about the movement of Russian and Ukrainian reinforcements to the frontline, specifically the Kursk area, I think it’s important to address a few points:

– Both Russian and Ukrainian forces face the same…

— Tatarigami_UA (@Tatarigami_UA) August 11, 2024

Since there have been numerous articles and statements on Telegram channels about the movement of Russian and Ukrainian reinforcements to the frontline, specifically the Kursk area, I think it’s important to address a few points:

– Both Russian and Ukrainian forces face the same issue: battalions are often pulled from their brigades to reinforce weaker sections of the frontline. This means that when people hear “a brigade has moved,” it might actually refer to only one or two battalions.

– We are now at a stage in the war where battalions can be essentially reinforced companies due to shortages of manpower and vehicles. This applies to both sides, as both Russia and Ukraine have created many new units and rapidly expanded their structures but lack enough personnel to fully staff existing units.

– Many OSINT analysts (this is not a criticism, just noting the limitations) often use FPV drone footage to identify the presence of specific units. For example, if X brigade posts a drone video from the Kherson area, it might be concluded that X brigade is operating there. However, native UAV units can be deployed separately for specific operations due to their mobility and effectiveness. Additionally, both Ukrainian and Russian forces have used this for disinformation, deliberately uploading videos from different locations with their logos to confuse the enemy.

Overall, when you read statements like “Another Ukrainian brigade has been spotted in Kursk” or “A Russian regiment from Krynky is heading to Kursk,” it could mean anything from a company-sized battalion moving to a full brigade with thousands of personnel and dozens or even hundreds of vehicles.

/2. Same Russian T-80BVM, with number 133, was spotted back in May 2024 during the transportation. https://t.co/8bWe2IubiR pic.twitter.com/9JTC1DuI9c

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) August 11, 2024

Ukrainian tractor on the way to the Kursk region border to evacuate enemy armored vehicles.

📹: 225th Separate Assault Battalion pic.twitter.com/4E5oMR76wI

— Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en) August 11, 2024

If you’re curious, the Ukrainians are, partially, crowdfunding this offensive into Russia:

This excavator is currently supporting the 225th Separate Assault Battalion in the Kursk region, helping to fortify our troops and keep them safer.

This was made possible thanks to your contributions. The 225th Battalion, once a Kharkiv Territorial Defense unit that endured… pic.twitter.com/F0nySNL42y

— ✙ 🔼Constantine 🔼✙ (@Teoyaomiquu) August 11, 2024

This excavator is currently supporting the 225th Separate Assault Battalion in the Kursk region, helping to fortify our troops and keep them safer.

This was made possible thanks to your contributions. The 225th Battalion, once a Kharkiv Territorial Defense unit that endured unimaginable challenges, is now advancing in Kursk, liberating the local population from the oppressive rule of the Moscow empire.

Your support has been crucial. Now, with the help of
@LibertyUkraineF
, I’m raising funds for a new batch of excavators for our military, and I need your help.

Donation link: https://paypal.com/pools/c/96S6xs98Rr

Please donate, share, and like this post to increase the visibility of the fundraiser.

Donate at https://t.co/O9d7tbzs3j or PayPal [email protected] with keyword “Kursk”.

We will buy power stations and drones they need to keep pushing. Delivering ourselves on Tuesday.

THANK YOU KEEP PUSHING https://t.co/UxJ7ufFHUH

— Dimko Zhluktenko 🇺🇦 (@dim0kq) August 11, 2024

1) a morale boost for the population, 2) destroyed Russian military equipment and a replenished POW swap base, and 3) increased leverage. While Kursk developments may not dramatically shift the battlefield, they have created new opportunities for Ukraine at relatively low cost. pic.twitter.com/nIF8nsWUhN

— Maria Avdeeva (@maria_avdv) August 11, 2024

One should not underestimate the PR stunt (c) ™ component of Ukraine’s defense effort in war, particularly when it comes to the Kursk operation.

Of course, political and media objectives cannot and must not be at the center of it, but they are also essential and helpful.

We…

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) August 11, 2024

One should not underestimate the PR stunt (c) ™ component of Ukraine’s defense effort in war, particularly when it comes to the Kursk operation.

Of course, political and media objectives cannot and must not be at the center of it, but they are also essential and helpful.

We need to bring the Russian-Ukrainian war into the global spotlight and do it on a very high note.

Ukraine is not just a barely known distant country in Eastern Europe that’s dying under Russian bombs in a trivialized war somewhere far away.

Ukraine is back at kicking asses and stunning the world against all odds.

Here we go with a natural, shockingly successful ground strike deep into the Russian territory. Not just a borderland raid but a large-scale military operation with a large territory taken under control and record-high quantities of disoriented and demoralized Russians taken POWs.

A gargantuan humiliation of Putin and his imperial machine that so many in the West prefer to comfortably come to terms with as “undefeatable.”

We are ultimately showing the global community, notably decision-makers, that Putin’s countless red lines are worthless bravado and that the West needs to get rid of its self-paralyzing fear of Putin and his totalitarian mafia state – which can and should be contained and defeated for truly just and long-lasting peace in Europe.

People love underdogs, but only when they are unexpectedly winning.

To survive as an independent nation (and thus win the war with Putin’s Russia), Ukraine needs American support and aid. The more, the better, the faster, the sooner.

And, interdependently, you have to be winning to motivate America to trust your cause and send you aid.

With all due respect, when things were looking extremely dire on the eve of the Russian invasion in 2022, the Biden administration was refusing to impose pre-emptive sanctions on Russia and flood Kyiv with advanced weaponry.

When Russians were standing at the gates of Kyiv, Zelensky was offered to leave Ukraine ASAP.

But when Ukraine scored a very unexpected (and, IMHO, brilliant) victory in the Battle of Kyiv, thus derailing the entire ‘special military operation,’ things changed.

America and the West saw that nothing was over. The Ukrainian cause is unexpectedly something to trust in and actively side with.

This was the beginning of a painful process of persuading the West to give Ukraine the tools to win, one weapon class at a time. There was (and still is) a very long way to go.

We had our ups with things like the Kharkiv offensive in 2022 or the liberation of Kherson.

And when things go south, just like what happened last summer with the failed operation on the Zaporizhia front — it always gives a voice to those saying that all is gone and that America needs to walk away from the one who’s just heroically losing and is not stunning the public with an unexpectedly crushing punch into Russia’s very gut just out of a sudden.

And for that, Ukraine needs out-of-the-box solutions and very sudden moves that not only give us military objectives but also remind everyone that they are very, very wrong if they think that Ukraine does not stand a very real chance of making it in front of all the haters.

That’s enough for tonight.

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First, some adjacent material from the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense.

Happy Sunday, fellas!

📷: 47th Artillery Brigade pic.twitter.com/KVtowzvWcV

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) August 11, 2024

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