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Late Night Open Thread: Confusion to Our Enemies!

by Anne Laurie|  August 9, 202412:52 am| 188 Comments

This post is in: Elections 2024, Grifters Gonna Grift, Kamala Harris for President, Open Threads, Republicans in Disarray!

They’re pretty confused already…

I told you an antivax conspiracy theorist boosted by Steve Bannon, Elon Musk, and the GOP-chaired House Weaponization Committee would end up appealing more to Republicans than Democrats no matter his name. Didn’t think it was much of a leap either.
But did Republicans listen? No. https://t.co/VAaWTwLDsG

— Nicholas Grossman (@NGrossman81) August 9, 2024


Quietly: Always putting substance(s) first:

From one “legitimate” guy to another, thank you @JoeRogan for always putting substance first.

“Robert F. Kennedy Jr.? He’s the only one that makes sense to me. He’s the only one that doesn’t attack people. He attacks actions and ideas. He’s much more reasonable and intelligent.… pic.twitter.com/iYtm0kGUMY

— Robert F. Kennedy Jr (@RobertKennedyJr) August 8, 2024

*admits to weird crime from 10 years ago*
spokesman: "Ok, we need to change the newscycle. do you have any friends that can help you look normal"
RFK: "yes, i know several pedophiles"
spokesman (muttering): "jesus christ" https://t.co/nwuBbAfAhh

— ¦O¦S¦I¦N¦T¦I¦N¦B¦I¦O¦ (@GorillaOSINT) August 7, 2024


Just totally normal foreign espionage, nothing dirty about it!

Scott Ritter reportedly claimed the investigators were at his home to execute a search warrant related to concerns the U.S. government has about violations of the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA). Authorities carried more than two dozen boxes out of Ritter's house. pic.twitter.com/xTEaksE0aJ

— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) August 7, 2024


 
Meanwhile, back in the center ring:

one of the basic problems with the Trump campaign at the present moment is that it does not appear to exist. there are very few ad buys. there are very few field offices. there are very few staffers. trump himself isn't out campaigning. what is even going on?

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— rev. howard arson (@theophite.bsky.social) Aug 7, 2024 at 5:37 PM

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trump is not just old, he is an old man who was shot and very nearly killed. I have had two semi close calls in combat, one from a sniper the other from a mortar/drone team. I think about both every day. a bullet literally skimmed his ear. he is going to be fucked up for life. https://t.co/cMtHolOstv

— Robert Evans (The Only Robert Evans) (@IwriteOK) August 7, 2024

But surely *this* will fix it!

Trump confirms he will do an interview with Elon, and Elon will be the host, Monday Night on X Spaces.

"I respect Elon Musk a lot, He respects me, he endorsed me, and it's not easy for him to endorse, it takes courage, and he has courage."

-Donald Trump pic.twitter.com/iHtaU8dbMu

— SMX ???? (@iam_smx) August 8, 2024


Nope, it’s (as of this moment) an actually scheduled event, not just another sundowning phantasy:

Are you excited for my PRIMETIME INTERVIEW with Trump live on X on Monday night? pic.twitter.com/UNkkkngodw

— Not Elon Musk (@iamnot_elon) August 7, 2024

Elon musk is a methed-up Nazi billionaire who both believes in and wants to do his part in a race war.

The world was and will be better place without him once he ODs on cocaine cut with panda blood and colloidal silver

— Peter Wolf (@peterawolf) August 8, 2024

Conservativism is pretty much just slur management at this point. https://t.co/j3HdpSUYdi

— A.R. Moxon (@JuliusGoat) August 9, 2024

ETA: (Thank you HumboldtBlue)

The Trump campaign sure has that "Hitler in the bunker" energy these days. pic.twitter.com/fjI3jVNWnb

— 𝕊𝕦𝕟𝕕𝕒𝕖_𝔾𝕦𝕣𝕝 (@SundaeDivine) August 8, 2024

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War for Ukraine Day 897: More on Ukraine’s Kursk Offensive

by Adam L Silverman|  August 8, 20248:26 pm| 35 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

Two quick housekeeping notes. First, Rosie is still doing great. Thank you all for the good thoughts, well wishes, prayers, and donations.

Second, it’s been a long week, I’m fried, so I’m go going to try to keep this short.

As I started tonight’s update – 7:35 PM EDT/2:35 AM local time in Ukraine – all of eastern and central Ukraine, minus Kyiv and Chernihiv Oblasts, are under air raid alerts. An air raid alert is now also up for Kyiv Oblast as of 8:10 PM EDT/3:10 AM local in Ukraine.

Last night lore asked:

I am confused. Why do they all assume Ukraine is going to occupy Russia? Couldn’t this be a march to the sea situation? Seems like that could damage Putin regime and Russian invasion forces too. At least to this ignorant layman.

This was my response:

I have no idea. Unless Ukraine has managed to pull of the most effect military deception operation (MILDEC) in history and is hiding hundreds of thousands of troops that no one has been able to track, they don’t have the capability to hold anything outside their borders.

It is possible the Ukrainians are trying to teach the Biden administration an object lesson: that it doesn’t matter what Putin says his redlines are for escalating to the tactical use of nuclear weapons in a conventional dispute, he won’t. Which all the readers here know, even if the Biden administration doesn’t, because I’ve been telling you all this for almost a decade.

There’s some strategic objective here that is not yet clear. I’m looking forward to finding out what it is once the Ukrainians decide to show/tell us.

I think we can rule out the MILDEC. The more I think about it, the more I think the second answer – that the Ukrainians are trying to demonstrate to the Biden administration, as well everyone else, that the emperor – Putin – has no clothes. That no matter what red lines he declares, no matter what he says he’ll do if they’re breached, such as tactically using nukes during a conventional war, these are just agitprop and hollow threats in order to establish reflexive control over the leaders of his adversaries in order to give himself a preemptive veto in their decision-making process. I also think they have studied Prigozhin’s aborted revolt from a little over a year ago, how Putin personally responded, and how Russia’s military, security services, and law enforcement were unable to do anything to actually stop his Wagner mercenaries. I think they have a very, very, very good understanding of what Russia is an is not able to do to actually defend itself within its own borders and is exploiting those weaknesses.

New: Ukrainian forces are pushing further into the Kursk region of Russia, in a cross-border incursion that surprised even some U.S. officials, multiple officials tell me. The intention: to disrupt Russian forces and divert them from the eastern front. https://t.co/tuyHwIO8cg

— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) August 8, 2024

CNN has the details:

Ukrainian forces are pushing further into the Kursk region of Russia, in a cross-border incursion that surprised even American officials, multiple US and Ukrainian officials tell CNN.

Ukrainian forces are comprised of a mix of Ukrainian regular and special operations units, unlike previous Ukrainian operations inside Russia that often involved undercover units and local sympathizers.

The intention, say US and Ukrainian officials, is multifaceted, in part to disrupt and demoralize Russian forces and in part to divert Russian forces away from other parts of the eastern front. US officials do not believe Ukraine intends to hold Russian territory for the long-term.

Ukraine has not officially confirmed its forces conducted a ground operation inside Russia. Neither the Ukrainian military nor the government in Kyiv has publicly commented on the operation.

Russia accused Ukrainian troops of crossing the border into its Kursk region on Tuesday, claiming that Ukrainian forces launched a “massive attack” and attempted to break through the Russian defenses.

The extent of the attack, including whether Ukrainian troops took over any settlements or caused damage to any strategic targets, remains unclear.

An incursion into Russia could be an attempt by Kyiv to divert Russian resources elsewhere. Given the spate of more negative developments from the frontline, the news of a successful incursion help Kyiv boost the morale of its troops and civilian population.

It could also be a message to Russia’s civilian population – a demonstration that Moscow’s war on Ukraine makes Russia vulnerable to attacks.

Chair of the Bundestag Defence Committee wishes Ukraine success in Kursk 👊🏻 https://t.co/Klu5qhyKg3

— Maria Avdeeva (@maria_avdv) August 8, 2024

Here’s the machine translation from the German:

We can only wish the Ukrainian defenders every success, also at #Kursk . The more successful they are, the sooner people will understand at #Kreml that there is nothing to be gained at #Ukraine . This and only this can lead to a change of mind on the part of the aggressor.

Now we watch and wait and see what develops.

Here is President Zelenskyy’s address from earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

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Russia Brought the War to Our Land, and It Should Feel What It Has Done – Address by the President

8 August 2024 – 19:13

I wish you good health, fellow Ukrainians!

Today, three reports have already been made by Commander-in-Chief Syrskyi – productive reports, exactly the kind our country needs now.

I am grateful to each warrior, each soldier and commander who ensures the defense of our Ukrainian positions and the fulfillment of our defensive tasks. Ukrainians know how to achieve their goals. And achieving the goals at war was not our choice. Russia brought the war to our land, and it should feel what it has done. We strive to achieve our goals as soon as possible in peacetime – under just peace conditions. And it will happen.

Today, there was also a report by Minister of Defense Umerov on the supply of weapons and equipment to our army. We are working to ensure that the supplies are consistently delivered on time. Head of the Security Service of Ukraine Maliuk also reported today – on our operations and on the sensitive work of the Security Service, which protects Ukrainians – protects them from Russian sabotage and assassination attempts inside our country.

Today, I also thank the entire development team of our new digital state service, Army+. We have presented this application. Now it is important that all our commanders in the Defense Forces start using it – obtain the necessary IDs and learn all the technical details. And the “army of paperwork” should be left in the past. We will continue to develop our Diia by adding services to it, and soon our Mriia – the third element of the state digital infrastructure – will start working – for children and parents, for teachers and schools. Will start working truly for the future of Ukraine. Ukrainians should not waste their time with outdated and useless bureaucracy. The world sees what Ukrainians can spend their time on – with results for Ukraine. We are holding our ground and providing Ukraine with new opportunities.

And one more thing.

I held a long meeting with our international experts: the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Ministry of Defense, the military, the Defense Intelligence, the Office. On our cooperation with NATO – with the Alliance in general and with our neighbors in the region who are NATO members in particular. It is obvious that together we can bring more security and stability to our region and to all of Europe. And we need to translate that obviousness into practical steps, into ways in which we can bring more real security to each other through cooperation. Today we discussed our joint capabilities to defend against Russian missile and drone strikes – we are working on their implementation. I thank everyone who is helping!

Glory to Ukraine!

President Zelenskyy also spoke at the presentation of the Army+ app. Video followed by English transcript.

Today We Are Taking a Step Toward Modernity and Efficiency – Speech by Volodymyr Zelenskyy at the Presentation of the Army+ Application

8 August 2024 – 14:55

Glory to Ukraine!

Dear Ukrainians! Dear attendees!

And now, first of all, I address our Ukrainian warriors: our soldiers, sergeants, officers and generals.

Everyone sees that the Ukrainian army can surprise. And it can achieve results.

This is shown on the battlefield, where our warriors have not only withstood the overwhelming force of the occupiers but are destroying it in a way that is necessary to defend Ukraine – our state and independence.

This is due to the courage of our people and the absolutely natural desire of Ukrainians to find the best course of action.

Ukrainians are constantly learning new things in this war. New models of weapons – and we can be proud of our results in the use of new weaponry. A lot has been accomplished in a short time, especially things that other states are either pursuing or have been pursuing for decades.

Our warriors are also mastering new methods of warfare – in particular, everything related to the use of drones. The dominance of Ukrainians in this field is obvious.

And I thank everyone in our army, in our state, and all volunteers who promote and implement the necessary changes.

I thank every commander who welcomes the changes and welcomes them really positively.

The Ukrainian Army always succeeds when it is able to discard the outdated, to act out of the box, and to execute with absolute accuracy what was intended for our, Ukrainian, results.

This is also the way our army should be managed.

Today, we are taking such a step – a step towards modernity, a step towards efficiency.

Something that strengthens our entire army because it strengthens each commander and, eventually, each warrior of our army.

As of today, the Army+ application will be operational. It will start with basic functions. And we will fill it with new ones.

In particular, electronic reports will be available immediately. When, in a few minutes and clicks, you can do what now takes at least hours or days.

There will also be an army ID. And there will be surveys, to see the real situation with the provision of our units.

And this is only the first release of Army+.

In the future, just as we have been adding new features to Diia, we will add new options to Army+.

The purpose of this application is to free the Ukrainian army from useless paperwork. So that commanders and soldiers do not waste their time on outdated and unnecessary bureaucracy and filling in papers. We are starting with reports: first, there will be electronic reports, and then we will continue with clearance forms and all other documents.

However, in the next phases of Army+ development, the application will also include other features that will help our warriors meet all of these social and communication needs while serving.

In particular, the application will include the necessary courses and training programs. Mastering new things is a priority for us.

Also, thanks to our state digital services, Ukrainians will be able to receive all social services provided by the state to warriors and citizens without bureaucracy. Transportation – they will be able to buy tickets or order other necessary services. Medicine and medical documents – all this should and will be convenient. Banking and crediting – the state is creating and will increase the package of financial opportunities for our Ukrainian warriors.

And in particular, Army+ will provide reliable communication between the warriors – secure chats.

Today, government officials and representatives of the Ministry of Defense will outline all the details.

In general, Army+ should become the second element of our digital state.

First, we launched Diia. And it is already used by more than 20 million Ukrainians. This is our super application. 18 digital documents and more than 40 services are in the application and over a hundred more services are available today on the portal.

Next is Army+. The second element. And it will also be full of services.

And there will be a third one, which we will present soon, in September. Our Mriia – an application for children, parents, teachers.

Diia is about the functioning of our state. Army+ is about our defense because it is about our warriors. And Mriia is about Ukrainian children, our future. The future that we will surely protect and secure.

I want to thank everyone who implements all these ideas, initiatives, and everyone who helps us. I thank everyone who develops digital services for our state – this all is for our people. I thank everyone who implements the changes Ukraine needs so much.

And of course, all our people must always be grateful to the Ukrainians, our true heroes of different times, who fought for our state, our independence and gave up the most precious thing – their lives.

I ask everyone to honor the memory of the fallen Ukrainian heroes with a minute of silence.

Thank you.

Now I address all the commanders of our Ukrainian army and all our Defense and Security Forces of Ukraine: I really expect you to help implement all these changes in a powerful way. We cannot do it without you.

We need Ukraine to lead in everything – in the way Ukrainians fight, in the way Ukrainians work, and in the way, Ukrainians manage their state and manage their army.

Eventually, our partners should learn from us modern solutions and efficiency, the ability of Ukrainians to achieve results.

I want to thank everyone again for this day. I thank everyone who stands with Ukraine, who fights, who works for the sake of our state, for the sake of our people.

Glory to Ukraine!

I’m not sure if you can really call yourself an army if you don’t have to spend several hours every day fighting with outdated versions of Microsoft Office programs making powerpoints, spreadsheets, and trying to get your email to actually work.

Tatarigami has published an assessment of the Ukrainian offensive into Kursk Oblast at EuroMaidan Press:

As several days of the Kursk incursion have passed, we can already observe some positive developments and achievements. That being said, I still have reservations and serious concerns about some fundamental problems. Here’s my brief summary on the topic:https://t.co/Z1rwsrABFs

— Tatarigami_UA (@Tatarigami_UA) August 8, 2024

To say that this incursion into the Kursk Oblast caught many, including the Russian command, by surprise is an understatement. We can confidently assert that the operational planning was executed skillfully, as the enemy not only failed to assemble a properly sized rapid response force but also misread the intent of the Ukrainian maneuver despite having extensive ISR capabilities over the frontlines and even deep into Ukrainian territory.

This bold incursion into Kursk Oblast highlights the inconsistency of concerns over escalation. Ukraine has been repeatedly prohibited from using ATACMS and similar systems deep within Russian territory due to fears of escalation. Yet now, with Russia’s territorial integrity under direct threat, we do not see nuclear missiles flying toward Berlin, Brussels, Washington, or any other Western city.

The operation also underscores Russia’s continued inability to swiftly respond to battlefield developments—a weakness evident during the Kharkiv counter-offensive in 2022, when Russia struggled to respond coherently to emerging challenges. This failure is unsurprising, as it stems from the over-centralization of control and the concentration of decision-making power in a few nodes, making any quick response nearly impossible.

Without a doubt, this incursion has sparked hope and optimism, not only within Ukraine but also in the West, which had begun to accept the idea of Ukraine slowly losing territory and war altogether.

It remains an indisputable fact that the capture of a significant number of prisoners of war, some of whom appear to be conscripted soldiers, is a major humanitarian victory for Ukraine. Countless Ukrainian families have been waiting for their loved ones to return from captivity since 2022.

In this context, conscript soldiers hold particular value, as Russian society is generally more sensitive to the plight of conscripts than to that of contract soldiers. This sensitivity is underscored by Putin’s promise in the spring of 2022 to address the issue of conscripts being used in combat situations.

That being said, amid the optimism and positivity, it’s important to remain critical and assess the situation soberly. As the summer 2023 offensive demonstrated, euphoria can quickly turn into a hangover.

While Ukrainian forces are encountering seemingly weak resistance as they advance, their logistical lines are inevitably lengthening. To address this, Ukraine will need to widen the incursion, which could slow the pace of its advance due to limited resources and available brigades.

Overextension poses risks beyond logistics – it also complicates the ability to provide adequate air defense coverage for advancing troops.

As Russia eventually assembles a large enough force to counter Ukrainian advances, the Ukrainian command will face a tough dilemma: to halt and dig in or to retreat back to Ukraine.

In the first scenario, it’s unclear how extended frontlines and unprepared positions with stretched logistics would be more favorable than the more established positions in Donbas. If Ukrainian troops choose to withdraw, it raises the question of whether the operation was worth the effort, especially given the need to redeploy elements from several brigades in Donbas for this incursion.

Meanwhile, in Donbas, Russian forces continue to advance toward Pokrovsk and have made progress in the Toretsk area over the past week.

As Ukrainian forces slowly retreat in the Pokrovsk direction, there are no stabilization reserves currently available on site.

So far, there is no evidence that Russia is moving its main units from Donetsk Oblast to Kursk, casting doubt on the theory that this incursion could relieve pressure on Donetsk. That being said, it may be too early to draw conclusions, as such movements could occur in the future.

However, as of today, there is no public information or indication that Russia has shifted its main forces or decreased pressure in the Pokrovsk direction.

More at the link including a lot of maps.

Unlike past cross-border raids conducted by pro-Ukrainian Russian and international units, regular forces from at least four brigades have appeared in verified videos taking part in the operation. This suggests the operation was planned well in advance. https://t.co/cHwm4nhilU

— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) August 8, 2024

From The Financial Times:

Ukraine has captured roughly 350 sq km in Russia’s Kursk region, with its forces fighting to expand and solidify their presence on the third day of Kyiv’s most audacious counteroffensive of the war.

The Russian defence ministry said battles raged on Thursday as its troops and special forces fought off the largest Ukrainian incursion since the start of Moscow’s full-scale invasion in 2022.

Videos reviewed and verified by the Financial Times and western analysts showed Russian strikes on columns of Ukrainian armoured vehicles and significant damage to cities and towns. Moscow’s jets were seen flying over the areas and dozens of Russian soldiers have been taken prisoner.

The Russian ministry claimed that roughly 1,000 Ukrainian soldiers had taken part in the operation and that Kyiv had lost 600 military personnel and 82 armoured vehicles — figures that could not be independently verified.

“Air strikes are being carried out on advancing reserves of the armed forces of Ukraine on the territory of the Sumy region,” Russia’s defence ministry added, referring to strikes on the Ukrainian region across the border from where the operation was launched.

Ukraine’s surprise operation began at dawn on Tuesday and has since focused on the small Russian town of Sudzha and its surroundings, including a gas transit station on one of the last pipelines still supplying Russian gas to central Europe.

The Institute for the Study of War, a Washington-based think-tank that tracks the war, said Ukrainian forces had captured 11 settlements, including Nikolaevo-Darino, Darino, and Sverdlikovo, and were operating within Lyubimovka. The area amounts to about 350 square kilometres, according to FT calculations.

It said geolocated footage showed Ukrainian armoured vehicles have advanced to positions along the 38K-030 Sudzha-Korenovo highway about 10 kilometres from the international border.

Russian bloggers close to the military wrote on Telegram that Ukrainian forces were trying to advance along the 38K-030. One pro-Kremlin military blogger said the Ukrainians had advanced north-west and south-east along the highway and were fighting around Korenovo and Sudzha.

“Sudzha is basically lost for us. And this is an important logistics hub,” the pro-Moscow Ukrainian blogger Yuriy Podolyaka who now resides in Russia wrote on Telegram.

A Ukrainian drone attack struck the vehicle of prominent pro-Kremlin reporters, severely injuring Yevgeny Poddudny, a journalist awarded by Putin for his war coverage.

Kyiv has not officially commented on the operation. Its western allies signalled they were not consulted, but said Ukraine had autonomy in planning its strikes.

Unlike past cross-border raids conducted by pro-Ukrainian Russian and international units, regular forces from at least four brigades have appeared in verified videos taking part in the operation. This suggests the operation was planned well in advance, analysts say.

Ukraine has not only largely depended on western military support — particularly that from the US — in its fight against Russia’s invasion forces. It relies heavily on Washington for intelligence to help plan and conduct its operations, according to Ukrainian officials.

But Matthew Miller, a spokesperson for the US Department of State, said on Wednesday that it had no earlier knowledge of the offensive and would request more details from Kyiv.

“We are providing them with the equipment; we provide them with advice. But when it comes to the day-by-day tactic that they carry out . . . sometimes we’re in communication about it, sometimes we’re not. It’s appropriate for them to make those decisions,” he added.

US Stryker and German Marder fighting vehicles have been confirmed on Russian territory during the battle, according to videos reviewed and verified by the FT. Miller said Ukraine was within its right to use western kit in its operations.

A spokesperson for Germany’s defence ministry did not confirm or deny Marders were used in the Kursk incursion, saying only that it was the “German government’s declared objective to support Ukraine in its fight against the Russian aggressor”.

The European Commission on Thursday said Ukraine had a “right to defend itself” and that “includes hitting the enemy on its territory”.

But Mykhailo Podolyak, a senior adviser to the Zelenskyy, on Thursday said “the root cause of any escalation, shelling, military actions, forced evacuations, and destruction of normal life forms, including within [Russia’s] own territories like Kursk and Belgorod regions, is solely Russia’s unequivocal aggression”.

Kyiv’s objectives remain opaque, although one appears to be to force Russia to divert troops from its own offensive in eastern Ukraine. The Russian defence ministry on Wednesday said it was sending reinforcements to Kursk.

Mick Ryan, a retired Australian army major general, wrote in an assessment on Thursday that the attack “might be an attempt to slow or kill Russian momentum in its offensives which have lasted for the duration of 2024”.

More at the link including maps.

Such operations as in Kursk region will have a positive impact on possible negotiations with Russia – Mykhailo Podoliak, advisor to the head of the Presidential office.
Russia is ready to make some compromises only when the war does not go according to its plan, he said. pic.twitter.com/P1XGPCxaVk

— Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en) August 8, 2024

Fire after a reported missile strikes in Rylsk area, Kursk region. pic.twitter.com/n7DNir9Rl9

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) August 8, 2024

If Ukraine’s offensive operation in the Kursk region is not persuading the West that it needs finally to drop its obsession with “escalation management” and get rid of its self-defeating, paralyzing fear of Putin and his trash-talk threats — I don’t know what else will.

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) August 8, 2024

Also, there are no mysterious “anonymous sources” leaks in press when anonymous sources aren’t informed. Interesting

— Kate from Kharkiv (@BohuslavskaKate) August 8, 2024

I mean, this is history in the making.

Map by @AndrewPerpetua pic.twitter.com/Lv36mVx4KH

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) August 8, 2024

Bakhmut:

The Bakhmut direction: Ukrainian border guards are making the occupiers regret ever coming to our land.

📹: @DPSU_ua pic.twitter.com/A3UpJ5QXYX

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) August 8, 2024

Pokrovsk:

Meanwhile, an archive video by the 47th Mechanized.

M1 Abrams in action.

The situation in the Pokrovsk sector remains extremely difficult. pic.twitter.com/bxOU22uWvz

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) August 8, 2024

Voronezh:

Videos of the aftermath of the attack on a Russian ammunition depot in Voronezh region have appeared. Along with scattered artillery shells objects similar to containers of Russian S-300 air defense missiles are also visible. https://t.co/6QeBHcQRbS https://t.co/qu3AdSZ7qk pic.twitter.com/pP5rzRgfJC

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) August 8, 2024

Kharkiv Oblast:

Russian BM-21 Grad MLRS, found and destroyed by drone operators in Kharkiv region. https://t.co/KlHFAFAcET pic.twitter.com/8XmyxEGN2E

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) August 8, 2024

Second explosion in Kharkiv ‼️
As always, when russia is losing, Kharkiv gets bombed.

— Kate from Kharkiv (@BohuslavskaKate) August 8, 2024

Sumy Oblast:

Today, a brother and sister were killed as a result of a Russian strike in Sumy region: a young man of 22 and a 6-year-old girl – Sumy Regional Military Administration.

Both were in the yard of the school in the village of Mohrytsia, which was destroyed by a bomb attack.… pic.twitter.com/nUebF9P661

— Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en) August 8, 2024

Today, a brother and sister were killed as a result of a Russian strike in Sumy region: a young man of 22 and a 6-year-old girl – Sumy Regional Military Administration.

Both were in the yard of the school in the village of Mohrytsia, which was destroyed by a bomb attack.

According to the head of the RMA Volodymyr Artiukh, 56 KAB bombs were dropped at settlements in four border areas of the Sumy region over the past 24 hours.

The mandatory evacuation of 23 settlements of 5 hromadas [municipalities] of Sumy district – Krasnopillia, Mykolaivka, Myropillia, Yunakivka, and Khotin – which fall within the enemy fire zone, continues in the region.

Russian occupied Donetsk Oblast:

Warriors from Ukrainian 53rd Separate Mechanized Brigade shot down a Russian flag on a school building in New York, Donetsk region.

Later, the Brigade’s scouts brought back a Ukrainian flag over there.

📹: 53rd Brigade pic.twitter.com/b6jmT2BVlr

— Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en) August 8, 2024

That’s enough for tonight.

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There are no new Patron tweets or videos tonight. Here’s some adjacent material from the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Amid the fog of secrecy around Kursk and without a word of official comment, AFU is out here dropping Cat Day pics. Love this comms 😅 pic.twitter.com/fwdfyw5YiB

— Maria Avdeeva (@maria_avdv) August 8, 2024

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Yes, Virginia. The Media Does Put A Thumb On The Scale

by Tom Levenson|  August 8, 20247:58 pm| 231 Comments

This post is in: Media, Open Threads, Politics

Bias in the media is a tricky thing to nail down, no matter how obvious it seems from the cheap seats (where I sit, that is). What can seem like conscious choices to shape the narrative one way or another are often more likely to be structural flaws journalism (shorthand: quotes aren’t facts, or why access journalism rots your brain and your newspaper); or an unconscious process through assumptions not in evidence frame reporting and stories. (See, e.g., the Walz vs. Shapiro takes that posits that bog standard Democratic Party priorities do not represent the center of American policy preferences.  (Lots to talk about there, but for another post or posts).

But sometimes bias is right out there, and the mechanisms by which it wrecks civic discourse is in plain sight.  That’s the implication of  this study out of MIT’s Sloan School:

One year after COVID-19 vaccines arrived, the U.S. had a vaccination rate of about 64%. That rate — lower than in most other countries with comparable access to vaccines — resulted in many preventable deaths.

A lot of blame was cast about, much of it targeting fake news stories and the social media platforms on which they spread. But new research by Jennifer Allen, SM ’22, PhD ’24, found that another overlooked source had a stronger influence on slowing vaccination rates: slightly misleading or provocative headlines from mainstream news sources.

The impact of perniciously presented but accurately reported stories was huge–much more damaging than identified mis or disinformation:

Allen and her coauthors found that exposure to stories they came to define as “vaccine-skeptical” — that is, stories that were not false and alluded to potentially harmful health effects resulting from the vaccine — reduced vaccination intentions 46 times more than misinformation flagged by fact-checkers.

“If we translate this into a specific number, we find that about 3 million people could have gotten vaccinated had they not been exposed to these stories,” Allen said. “Of course, there is then some correlation between vaccine uptake and lives saved, and so the number of preventable deaths also turns out to be relatively large….

The basic explanation for this result is audience size. In total, vaccine-related headlines that the researchers looked at received 2.7 billion views on Facebook. Content flagged as misinformation received just 0.3% of them. The most influential vaccine-skeptical headline, which was published by the Chicago Tribune, read “A Healthy Doctor Died Two Weeks After Getting a COVID Vaccine; CDC Is Investigating Why.” It reached more than 20% of Facebook’s U.S. user base and received more than six times as many views as all flagged misinformation combined.

Crucially it’s not just, or perhaps even mostly a poorly or maliciously framed story that does the damage.  All it takes to produce harm is a misleading headline, “given that more than 90% of people read nothing beyond that when browsing social media.”

Yes, Virginia. The Media Does Put Thumbs On Scales With Headlines

That is: when you read a New York Times headline that, say, reads “Trump and Harris Agree to September Debate” you have both an error in fact (Harris had long ago confirmed her attendence at the debate. Trump had ducked it and is now surrendering on this one), and a journalistic sin of omission–leaving out the entire tenor of the press conference and the fact that it was mostly a tissue of lies.  The Times did do a decent fact check of the session; they would point to that to say (with some justice) that they are providing a critical analytical lens on Trump’s claims. But most people who see this coverage at all will see the “agreement” and miss the reality–that a tired and rambling old guy had a serial ragegasm.

That’s how so much of what we’ll have to fight against will play out over the next 90 days. Reasonably accurate reporting (however often driven by structurally flawed assumptions) that reporters and editors can point at to “prove” their commitment to fairness, while the work of seeding opinion in the digital town square gets done by headlines that mislead and worse.  As the story of the Sloan study concludes:

Importantly, this method generalizes beyond vaccination rates and could be used to understand social media posts’ causal effects on any outcome, from brand attitudes to political polarization.

We can have some effect on this. Screaming a lot did get the NYT to change an egregious headline last week. Working the refs is important. I’ll just put this out there: many NYT reporters put their emails up on their biography pages (click on their bylines). Short, polite, firm notes about both the substance of their writing and the headlines that get slapped on it may not have an immediate effect. But they read what comes in over the transom and it shapes how they work.

This thread, it is as open as the mind of a Minnesota school kid in one of Walz’s classes.

Image: Beatrix Potter, Spectacled Mouse Reading a Newspaper, 1890

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Grandpa Let Loose

by @heymistermix.com|  August 8, 20244:11 pm| 354 Comments

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Grandpa Let Loose

Trump just gave a trainwreck of a news conference where he was unhinged, meandering, and he looked like shit.  Key points:

  • Bullshitted about mifepristone because he clearly didn’t know what it was.
  • Said he could have done “terrible things” to Hillary Clinton but didn’t want to see the wife of a president go to jail.
  • Said he had a “positive” inflation, a perfect number.
  • Got all wrapped up in crowd size and said his crowd at the Washington Monument was bigger than MLK’s. Said in history nobody’s had crowds like him.  88K in S Carolina, for example.
  • Doubled down on the Is Kamala Black? thing.  “”I think it’s very disrespectful to both” (Indian or Black).
  • Said Walz is “heavy into the transgender world.”

There’s a lot more but I can’t stand looking at him anymore.  The one possible piece of news is that he agreed to the already agreed-upon debate on 9/10 on ABC but who knows if he’ll show for that.

 

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Thursday Afternoon Open Thread

by WaterGirl|  August 8, 20243:55 pm| 66 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

I just had to share this, just sent to me by JCJ.

Thursday Afternoon Open Thread 7

Seems like the perfect starter for an open thread.

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Time Machine: Oct 2018, Before Tim Walz Was Elected Governor

by WaterGirl|  August 8, 202412:28 pm| 408 Comments

This post is in: Elections, Elections 2024, Open Threads

Time Machine: Oct 2018, Before Tim Walz Was Elected Governor
Tim Walz, right, and Gary Bloomberg, left, at Camp Guernsey, an artillery training facility in Guernsey, Wyo., in 1992. Walz was a U.S. Army National Guard staff sergeant at the time.Courtesy of Tim Walz

Leto sent me a great article about Tim Walz from Oct 2018, when he was running for his first term as governor.

Here’s how the article begins:

Two days after Tim Walz turned 17, he and a military recruiter drove 30 miles to a farm field in northern Nebraska.

A farmer, who was also a lieutenant in the Army National Guard, hopped down from the tractor he was using to till a field.

“And we did the oath of enlistment right there on the edge of a field with the recruiter and that led me on a 24-year journey,” Walz recounted recently as he reflected on what had been a family expectation of military service.

Not long after, Walz was off to basic training in Georgia. It was the first stop in a military career that would take him to Arkansas, Texas, the Arctic Circle and several outposts in between. “You go where you’re told to go.”

Is anyone surprised that in 2018 some partisan hack tried to attack Walz over his military service?

During that race, Walz’s service was a prominent feature, and also a source of a late-campaign dispute.

Tom Hagen, a military reservist from Waseca, Minn., who served in Iraq, wrote a letter to a newspaper in the district saying that Walz wasn’t being entirely candid about his record “through artful omission” about where his overseas missions took him. Hagen said voters deserved to know Walz didn’t deploy to Iraq or Afghanistan.

Walz didn’t let it go unanswered and criticized Hagan as dishonoring a fellow veteran.

“There’s a code of honor among those who’ve served, and normally this type of partisan political attack only comes from one who’s never worn a uniform,” Walz wrote in the same newspaper, The Winona Daily News, just days before being elected.

During his two decades, Walz was part of flood fights, responded to tornadoes and spent months on active duty deployed overseas.

He specialized in heavy artillery and had ribbons for proficiency in sharpshooting and hand grenades, according to military records obtained through an open records request.

Walz acknowledges he never saw combat.

“I know that there are certainly folks that did far more than I did. I know that,” Walz said. “I willingly say that I got far more out of the military than they got out of me, from the GI Bill to leadership opportunities to everything else.”

And of course Governor Walz refused to send National Guard troops to the border:

“I would not be comfortable having us be part of a mission that separates children from their families. That is a federal government role that needs to be carried out by civilian authorities in immigration control … (The Guard) is not and should not be used as immigration control. That is an absolutely inappropriate and wrong mission. And I think as the chief executive of the state of Minnesota being able to reflect those concerns adequately with personnel who know this in the Pentagon, at Guard Bureau, is critically important.”

As they say, read the whole thing.

 

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You Just Haven’t Earned It Yet, Baby

by @heymistermix.com|  August 8, 202411:23 am| 172 Comments

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You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby

First, cry harder.

Second, after his NABJ catastrophe, I’m sure Trump’s press conference at his stately pleasure dome will be highly controlled press avail with only the best reporters asking questions that aren’t rude.  Still, I guarantee that the “mainstream” press covering it will do everything in their power to clean up any nonsense that Trump spouts, as they always do.

Third, both the Post and the Times are running stories about Walz’ decision to retire after 24 years in the military, where they quote disaffected Republicans who served with him, as part of a campaign of lies and deceit by Trump’s campaign manager, Chris LaCivita, the guy who invented swiftboating.  The same media outlets are just slavering to push the “bubble bursting/sugar high is over” storyline on the Harris/Walz campaign.   Why should Harris and Walz run to the mics to placate these fuckers when there’s no way they are going to get fair coverage or good questions?

Finally, the voters that Harris wants to reach are not reading the NYT, Post or Semafor, where Benjy Sarlin writes.  They’re on social media, because they’re young, and the Harris campaign is tearing it up there.  Harris announced her Walz pick officially on Instagram.  Her KamalaHQ account is killing it.  The “free media” from a press conference pales in comparison to the free media from the social platforms, as well as the media attention given to the rallies.

So, to Benjy and the rest of the whiners, sorry, you’re going to have to suffer and cry for a longer time.

If you want some reasonable takes on the Harris/Walz press conferences, Dave Weigel and Hunter Walker have posts on Bluesky worth checking out.

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