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More Firings, Probably Illegal

by @heymistermix.com|  February 14, 20254:09 pm| 127 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Josh Marshall posted this a few minutes ago:

There are probationary employees who are new in government service and those who are labeled as probationary because of a job switch but who have continuous government service prior to their current job. If you are in that latter category and are fired as a probationary employee in these category terminations taking place now there is a good chance your termination was illegal. And it is illegal in a way that courts will vindicate. Obviously there are details and nuances about how this works. But if this applies to you you should at least speak with an attorney who knows this area of law. There’s a good chance you have a case and can receive compensation and/or reinstatement.

When I heard that “probationary employees” are being fired, I assumed that King Elon’s incel army had figured a way to legally fire a good number of employees, but I didn’t know that the Federal Government had such a broad definition of “probationary”.  (My experience is at a state university, where once you got past your first probationary period, that was it.)

Josh also reports that 300 are out at the National Cancer Institute.  It’s clear that the Muskrats aren’t really abiding by the spirit of the court orders enjoining them from firing everyone in sight, and I’m sure they aren’t really abiding by the letter when they think they can get away with it.  And, of course, they can.

One of the many, many pressure points where the unpopularity of these firings/non-hirings is going to be manifest to anyone looking is National Parks, where the hiring of camp hosts was frozen, and National Forests, where 3,400 probationary employees (10% of all employees) are getting the axe.  The Muskovite claim is that those employees aren’t in public safety (including firefighting), but those jobs also include people who maintain roads and trails, and maintain watersheds, that are critical to fire fighting.  Here’s someone on reddit who works in the Forest Service and says that he’s fought fires with employees not classified as firefighters.

Every bad thing that happens later came from something King Elon and his vassal Trump did now. We just need a functional opposition party to keep hammering that home.

Speaking of home, that’s where the Senate went this weekend, after no fewer than 3 unanimous consent votes yesterday that let 3 Trump appointees move forward.   Remember, all that needs to stop unanimous consent is one Senator objecting.  The Commerce Secretary, Howard Lutnik,  was confirmed with zero Democratic votes.   Trump’s nominee for Secretary of Agriculture, Brooke Rollins, was confirmed with a bunch of Democratic votes. (Click the link to see the roll call.)  The National Forest Service is under the Department of Agriculture (National Parks are under Interior), so members of our “team” were voting for Trump’s nominee while King Elon was firing 10% of his department.  Kelly Loeffler’s nomination to become SBA administration also made it through cloture with zero Democratic votes.  Then they unanimously consented to leave town, since one thing all Senators can reach bipartisan agreement on is that they don’t like to work on Fridays.  And, as we all know, the best kind of agreements are bipartisan.

Open thread.

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Let’s Check In With the Fourth Estate

by @heymistermix.com|  February 14, 20252:50 pm| 54 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

The AP has been behaving admirably in the face of Trump’s insistence that they refer to the Gulf of Mexico by his made-up name:

The White House blocked an Associated Press journalist from covering a news conference with two major world leaders Thursday, upping the stakes in a disagreement between the news agency and the Trump administration over AP’s style decision to stick with the name “Gulf of Mexico” for the body of water that the president rechristened the “Gulf of America.”

An AP reporter was prevented from entering a news conference where President Donald Trump and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi answered questions, effectively shutting out thousands of global news outlets that rely on the news organization.

Julie Pace, the AP’s senior vice president and executive editor, called it a “deeply troubling escalation” and “a plain violation of the First Amendment” to the U.S. Constitution.

I’m gonna say that Pace is wrong — the White House can allow whomever they want to go to a press conference, for whatever reason, otherwise “Cheeto Dust Joe’s Political TikTok, Live From Mom’s Basement” could sue the White House for not letting them in on First Amendment grounds. The point, instead, is that they’re punishing one press operation for not doing what they want, and that’s gross and bad. AP’s rationale is that they’re an international news organization, and changing the name would cause confusion. I hope they stick to that.

Anyway, the White House Correspondents Association is out with a statement that also mentions the First Amendment. Maybe someone can check my memory, but I think they made more of a fuss when Fox was given some shit by Obama and Biden.

My point about the First Amendment is that they should keep that one in their pockets until some coder bootcamp incel Muskrat starts hacking their websites and shutting them down, because that’s what’s coming.

Frankly, my take has been and probably will always be that the presence of the White House Correspondents at the press conferences for any administration, but particularly this one, is a waste of money. Send an intern, if they’ll let one in, otherwise just watch the feed from the press room on whatever TV is handy. Any clever “gotcha” questions aren’t clever and don’t “get” anyone. The purpose of the Press Secretary is to push out the administration’s line, and while it’s entertaining to watch Trump’s idiot du jour spit lies and bullshit, it’s ultimately a pointless exercise. Now that Trump is apparently going to have daily signing ceremonies for mostly-illegal Executive Orders, who cares who asks the obvious questions to President Musk and his kid Ready Player One? The press think that their presence makes a difference. The better approach would be to do research cultivate sources so they can rebut the lies Musk tells, and put that rebuttal into the stories they write about the “press conferences”. But they still don’t like to do this because they’d rather just report “s/he said” | “s/he said” stories and not call a lie, a lie. (Sorry, “falsehood”, got carried away for a minute.)

In other Gulf of Mexico news, Claudia Sheinbaum has stated that Mexico might sue Google over their use of the other name since Mexico has sovereignty over a good part of the Gulf. AP reported that. Good.

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Smells a Little Sweaty

by Rose Judson|  February 14, 20251:41 pm| 85 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Clown Shoes

Rob Bresnahan is a freshman Republican who represents Pennsylvania’s 8th district, which covers the Poconos. It’s where I vote and where my parents live. I like to think our persistent emails and calls had something to do with this:

Smells a Little Sweaty

Dunno which part of NEPA he came from where “people keep their word.” A great many residents of the Poconos came from NYC or New Jersey at some point; simple “grown-from-the-land” types are outnumbered. And even natives aren’t above a little deception: at least one Gen-X white dude I know who has been calling Bresnahan has been pretending to be a MAGAt concerned about how much influence Musk has over the president’s agenda.

Regardless, I like that Bresnahan’s saying this. Have you sent your GOP congressperson a valentine yet? It’s not too late.

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Eric Adams on a Short Leash, But Still Walking

by @heymistermix.com|  February 14, 202510:44 am| 202 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Jeffries knows the problem but won’t discuss solutions:

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) said Thursday that the Trump administration is moving to drop the criminal charges against New York City Mayor Eric Adams in order to exercise control over the embattled politician.

“What is clear is that the White House made a decision to dismiss the criminal charges pending against Mayor Adams without prejudice,” Jeffries told reporters in the Capitol.

“Translation: It is the intention of the Trump administration to keep the current mayor on a short leash.”

[…]

Jeffries on Thursday said Adams’s standing among Democrats will hinge not on the Justice Department’s overtures on his behalf, but on what the mayor does in response.

“How the mayor responds to the White House’s intentions is going to determine a lot about the political future of the current mayor of the city of New York,” Jeffries said.

Well, part of that response came today.  Adams and Border Czar Tom Homan appeared on Fox and Friends talking about their agreement to let federal immigration officials into Rikers Island.  Homan said if Adams didn’t come through, he’d be back in NYC.  Homan also called out Gov. Kathy Hochul as an “embarrassment”.

Eric Adams on a Leash - But What Can We Smol Beans Doooo?

Yesterday the news came out that young Voldemort here (Emil Bove, ~42 years old, but evil ages you) instructed a SDNY staff member to stop taking notes and destroy those notes after the meeting where the quid pro quo between Adams and the Trump DoJ was negotiated.  We know this because former Scalia clerk and acting US Attorney Danielle Sassoon told us in her resignation letter.  Currently, the charges against Adams still stand, because the Trump DoJ can’t find anyone to fire him — they’re all resigning instead.  This includes “conservatives” because, unlike Florida (sorry Betty), New York and DC’s bar will disbar people who blatantly subvert the rule of law.

Now, the downstate political machine is meeting to decide Adams’ fate:

Between now and the weekend, Sharpton and the leaders, including Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, Rep. Gregory Meeks, State Sen. Majority Leader Andrea Stewart-Cousins, Assembly Speaker Carl Heastie and Attorney General Letitia James, along with clergy leaders from the city, will weigh their options concerning the mayor, including possibly calling on him to resign.

In case it’s not clear, that’s pretty much every powerful Democrat in the city, minus AOC and Schumer.  These people will then instruct Kathy Hochul on whether to dismiss Adams or not.  Sharpton is a long-time supporter of Adams, by the way.

Hochul, who has done some admirable things, such as rejecting extradition to Louisiana for doctors who do mail-order abortion drug prescriptions, is beholden to the downstate machine because she’s unpopular (for a Democrat), and from the wrong part of the state (Buffalo, not NYC).

The machine has two concerns:  removing Adams before March 26 will spark a special election that Cuomo might win, and Jumaane Williams will become mayor for roughly 80 days because he’s next in succession.  Otherwise, there will be a primary in June and a general election in November.  All these elections are ranked choice voting.

Williams is not part of the downstate machine (nor is AOC, who’s already called for Hochul to remove Adams). Williams is the Public Advocate and he beat Hochul in the city when she ran in the primary for Lt. Governor in 2018 (she won overall, but it was tight).  He’s far to the left of Hochul.

Obviously, having Williams as Mayor is far, far better than Adams.  And, whether the race is in May or in November, Cuomo is going to be a well-financed, hard-to-beat candidate (sadly).  But the sclerotic, machine-driven,  election-losing Democratic Party establishment in New York is still grinding towards a decision.  They are afraid of Cuomo and they can’t abide Williams, and, frankly, I don’t know how much they care about Adams still being around.

The right thing to do here is to fire Adams.  But there’s a group of people in charge that often let political considerations stop them from doing the right thing, when local politics are involved.

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Friday Morning Open Thread: Working for the Weekend

by Anne Laurie|  February 14, 20257:01 am| 188 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Sports, Elon Musk

I believe there are some jackals have been looking forward to this?

The beautiful game is here again

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— ?????? – Suffering: Average ???????? (@danmynrd.bsky.social) February 13, 2025 at 9:13 PM

More good news!

??NEW: Governor Tim Walz is considering a run for the U.S. Senate in Minnesota after Tina Smith announced she is retiring in 2026.

RETWEET if you would support @GovTimWalz for U.S. Senate! pic.twitter.com/ORN641sYw0

— Protect Kamala Harris ? (@DisavowTrump20) February 13, 2025

Still proud of my (fierce!) senior Senator…

this is the suspect firing the cops (an increasingly common theme)

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— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm.bsky.social) February 13, 2025 at 8:12 PM

I have a better idea: Email [email protected] or DM @cfpb_tipline on X and tell President Trump and co-president Elon Musk to stop letting Wall Street scam you.

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— Elizabeth Warren (@warren.senate.gov) February 13, 2025 at 5:53 PM

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1. Warren is married and her husband earns ~$400,000/year

2. Warren has written several books and was a successful author before running for senate

3. They bought real estate in Greater Boston a while ago because they are professors of a certain age pic.twitter.com/WuVDXJyAJE

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) February 14, 2025

What does having the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau on hold mean for consumers? https://t.co/ywA1ygYZ2n

— The Associated Press (@AP) February 12, 2025

Okay, the Oval Office Occupant’s whole concept is awful, but some of the responses have been pretty funny…

Hi Americans.

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— Sophia ???? (@aegeanlyfe.bsky.social) February 12, 2025 at 11:07 PM

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Late Night Schadenfreude Open Thread: Too Little, Too Late, Sen. McConnell

by Anne Laurie|  February 14, 20255:00 am| 70 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Republicans in Disarray!, Trumpery, Schadenfreude

SHOT: Mitch McConnell votes against RFK Jr. to be HHS Secretary.
CHASER: Trump expresses doubt that McConnell ever had polio and then questions McConnell's mental faculties.
"He's not equipped mentally. He wasn't equipped. 10 years ago, mentally, in my opinion."

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1.bsky.social) February 13, 2025 at 3:40 PM

Ed Kilgore, at NYMag — “McConnell Finally Defies Trump, Now That He’s Irrelevant”:

… [D]espite McConnell’s disdainful attitude toward Donald Trump, he delivered the president’s beloved tax cuts and a steady flow of easy confirmation votes on executive-branch and judicial appointments. The Kentuckian gave Trump the priceless gift of a third Supreme Court appointment in his first term after his audacious and unprecedented refusal to give so much as a hearing to Obama’s nominee, Merrick Garland. McConnell also defended Trump from conviction on two rounds of impeachment articles passed by the House. Though McConnell clearly disliked Trump (who more than reciprocated his contempt), the president was the party boss and McConnell was above all a party foot soldier.

I say “was,” because in the sad dénouement of his career after he gave up the Senate leadership, McConnell is finally showing a few signs of real independence from Trump. As the Senate’s Republican majority has rubber-stamped even the least qualified and most questionable of the 47th president’s nominees, McConnell has voted against three of them: Defense secretary Pete Hegseth, director of national intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, and HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Viewed without context, the first two votes reflect McConnell’s old-school Cold War views on defense and foreign policy, which made the empty MAGA suit Hegseth and the anti-interventionist former Democrat Gabbard repellent. And anyone who cannot find a reason for fears about Kennedy isn’t looking very hard. But plenty of other Republican senators undoubtedly suppressed similar misgivings and voted to give Trump what he wanted. Not the man who spent so many years whipping his troops into partisan uniformity.

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These gestures are, however, far too little and way too late. Without question, Trump decisively won his long-standing feud with McConnell. Had ill health not forced him to step down as party leader, he would have almost certainly have been deposed as a satisfying punctuation mark on the MAGA movement’s total conquest of the Republican Party. Now he’s finally liberated from Trump’s yoke as he serves out his last two years in the Senate (it’s hard to imagine him trying to stick around beyond 2026). But McConnell has become totally irrelevant, which is the worst fate imaginable for a man who so clearly valued power over any set of real principles. His idol, the great 19th-century Kentuckian Henry Clay, was able to end his long and turbulent career in Washington on a very high note: the passage of his ultimate deal-making handiwork, the Compromise of 1850, which at the time appeared to be a historic measure saving the Union from dissolution over slavery. McConnell will spend his final years in office watching his colleagues surrender ancient prerogatives to whippersnappers like Elon Musk and to the president whose sobriquet for McConnell — the “Broken Old Crow” — seems quite apt right now.

McConnell isn’t getting much sympathy…

… The reality is that McConnell, like a lot of observers, thought Trump had written his political obituary with his conduct on January 6. Like so many other people, Mitch McConnell’s big mistake was underestimating Donald Trump, who now defines the party the Kentuckian lived to serve.

imagine your reaction if you were told a decade ago that in 2025 Mitch McConnell would be the only Senate Republican willing to stand up to a Putinist takeover of the US intelligence agencies

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) February 12, 2025 at 12:13 PM

Your reminder that Mitch McConnell kneecapped Barrack Obama, stole two Supreme Court seats & voted not to impeach Trump, twice – so no, he doesn’t get a cookie for voting against Pete Hegseth, Tulsi Gabbard & Bobby Kennedy Jr. pic.twitter.com/SDv9aZM9JM

— anyone_want_chips (@anyonewantchips) February 13, 2025

N(ice) P(olite) R(epublican radio), however, is sympathetic:

A survivor of childhood polio, Sen. Mitch McConnell was the only Republican in the Senate to vote No. Here's how he explained his vote.

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— NPR (@npr.org) February 13, 2025 at 2:55 PM

Introducing “Opinion Contributor” Mitch McConnell:
#Tariffs 🇺🇸
www.courier-journal.com/story/opinio…

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— Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla.bsky.social) February 12, 2025 at 9:29 AM

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War for Ukraine Day 1,085: A Few Thoughts

by Adam L Silverman|  February 13, 202510:46 pm| 51 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

A housekeeping note: Last night things got quite heated in the comments. The result was I asked Bupalos to not comment in my posts anymore. They asked if I’d reconsider and provide an explanation, which I said I would. After sleeping on it and thinking about it with twelve to fifteen hours of distance, I am reversing that request. The reason I’m doing so is because everyone, including myself, is right now on a very short fuse given what is going on in and with the Trump-Musk administration. Things that six weeks ago wouldn’t cause more than rolled eye brows now have all of us working not to let someone have it with both barrels. After reviewing their comments and the responses to them, I think this is what happened last night. Bupalos came in with a contrary take and when called on it, things escalated and got heated in the responses and the responses to the responses. I reached out to Bupalos directly a few hours ago to let them know and that I would address this at the top of tonight’s post.

Bupalos: you are welcome to comment. I apologize for responding in haste and not deliberately.

Everyone: let’s all dial it back a few notches. Also, please don’t ask me how features on this site work. I have no idea.

Hegseth held a press conference today after the NATO ministers of defense meeting. It was an incoherent mess. I’ll get to it after the jump because I want to excerpt the first three or four questions and answers and then address the mess that Trump and Hegseth have made of this because neither of them know what they’re talking about. His performance, especially how he was speaking, have already raised speculation that he was intoxicated and that his alcoholism is not under control. He also brought the urinalysis watcher with him on the trip.

Here is President Zelenskyy’s address from earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

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The Military Delivered Important Reports Today; There is a Good Result on the Frontline – Address by the President

13 February 2025 – 19:40

I wish you health, fellow Ukrainians!

Today we’re on a regional trip.

First stop: the Khmelnytskyi region, our Khmelnytskyi Nuclear Power Plant, a meeting on security and a crucial project – the completion of additional power units at the plant. We are preparing to launch four new power units in Ukraine. The first phase includes two units, adding 2.2 GW, followed by a second phase – two more units, American-made by the way, from Westinghouse, also contributing 2.2 GW. We are working with our American partners to complete this plant, which will become our most powerful one. This major project will not only allow Ukraine to eliminate the need for electricity imports during difficult winter periods but also provide cheaper electricity for our people and industries. I’m grateful to everyone who supports this effort. Thank you very much!

Today, I also visited the Rivne region, Ostroh, our Ostroh Academy. I had a great conversation with awesome students, followed by a meeting with local businesses.

Now, we are already preparing for meetings and negotiations at the Munich Security Conference. On the road, I have just held talks with Polish Prime Minister Tusk and Lithuanian President Nausėda.

We are coordinating our positions on Europe’s collective defense. It is critical for all of Europe to work together to achieve common goals.

Today, I also received reports from our military – very important reports. There’s a good result on the frontline. It’s not appropriate to mention specific locations. I won’t turn this into politics, but I want to thank the guys from the 425th Separate Assault Regiment – your strength truly matters. Well done! I also just spoke with Commander-in-Chief Syrskyi – we must strengthen our Air Force, particularly its aviation component – our military aviation. I instructed the Commander-in-Chief to discuss this with Brigadier General Serhii Holubtsov and report back on a possible personnel change in the Air Force, including the consideration of appointing General Holubtsov as Deputy Commander of the Air Force.

Glory to Ukraine, Ukrainians!

And here’s the video of President Zelenskyy’s press availability at the Khmelnytskyi Nuclear Power Plant.

Georgia:

“We will not stop. Call elections!”

“Listen to the voice of the people. The people demand their voice be heard!”

“Georgia, rise up! Rebel!”

“We do not tolerate oligarchy, we crave democracy”

#GeorgiaProtests
Day 78

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— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) February 13, 2025 at 1:09 PM

Georgian operatic bass and freedom activist Paata Burchuladze was barred from marking his 70th jubilee at the Tbilisi Opera, so yesterday, people marched in his honour and played “Va, pensiero” as they passed the Opera towards the Parliament. #GeorgiaProtests
📷 Sophie Zviadadze

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) February 13, 2025 at 4:56 AM

Day 78. People chanting “Revolt!” “Until the end!” “Strength is in unity!” while “Fire to the oligarchy!” is depicted on the Parliament, implying the oligarch’s state capture that led to his dictatorship.
People are also happy about the EU Parliament resolution. #GeorgiaProtests

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) February 13, 2025 at 2:10 PM

Black Mirror via Chinese surveillance in Georgia. Near Tbilisi Concert Hall. #terrorinGeorgia #GeorgiaProtests
📷 Dato Koridze

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) February 13, 2025 at 4:05 PM

Mzia Amaglobeli has been on hunger strike for 33 days as a form of protest, while Temur Katamadze has been on hunger strike for 28 days. Mzia is in a clinic, but Temur Katamadze refuses to be taken there.

#TerrorinGeorgia

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— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) February 13, 2025 at 2:52 AM

✊ Peaceful protest is a human right!

🇬🇪 Journalist Mzia Amaglobeli was arrested at a peaceful protest in Batumi & is on hunger strike.
We demand her release!

🤬 Georgia’s far-right government is cracking down on protests & media.
📣 The EU must stand with Georgians!

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— European Greens (@europeangreens.eu) February 13, 2025 at 10:44 AM

When a society faces a fundamental threat like the establishment of a dictatorship, you must be emotionally prepared for the unbothered detachment of those who you firmly believed would be standing next to you.
To win, you need to survive, and that’s all about endurance.

— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) February 13, 2025 at 3:07 PM

Salome Zurabishvili and Giorgi Gakharia are participating in the Munich Security Conference, which kicks off tomorrow.

Georgian Dream is not participating—they have not been invited to the event.

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— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) February 13, 2025 at 12:51 PM

The US:

As I indicated above, Hegseth held a press conference at the NATO ministers of defense meeting.

REPORTER: Can you give a guarantee that no deal will be forced on Ukraine that they do not want to accept?

HEGSETH: That’s not ultimately my decision. President Trump — I’ve got the Truths right here that he posted — called both, in case we missed it, Vladimir Putin and President Zelenskyy

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— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) February 13, 2025 at 11:11 AM

I want to highlight these portions from the official transcript:

UNKNOWN:  Thanks very much. Let’s start with the US traveling TV pool with Liz Frieden.

Q:  Thank you, Secretary Hegseth. You have focused on what Ukraine is giving up. What concessions will Putin be asked to make?

DEFENSE SECRETARY PETE HEGSETH:  Well, that’s — I would start by saying the arguments that have been made that somehow coming to the table right now is making concessions to Vladimir Putin outright, that we otherwise — or that the President of the United States shouldn’t otherwise make, I just reject that at its face.

There’s a reason why negotiations are happening right now, just a few weeks after President Trump was sworn in as President United States. Vladimir Putin responds to strength. In 2014 he invaded Crimea, not during the presidency of Donald Trump. Over four years, there was no Russian aggression from 2016 to 2020. In 2022, Vladimir Putin took aggression on Ukraine. Once again, not while President Trump was President of the United States.

So any suggestion that President Trump is doing anything other than negotiating from a position of strength is on its face a historical and false. So when you look at what he may have to give or take, what’s in or what’s out in those negotiations, we have the perfect dealmaker at the table from a position of strength to deal with both Vladimir Putin and Zelenskyy.

No one’s going to get everything that they want, understanding who committed the aggression in the first place. But I challenge anyone else to think of a world leader at this moment who, with credibility and strength, could bring those two leaders to the table and forge a durable peace that ultimately serves the interests of Ukraine, stops the killing and the death, which president has been — Trump has been clear he wants to do and hopefully ultimately is guaranteed — or guaranteed by strength of Europeans who are there prepared to back it up.

Q:  To follow up on that — follow up. Thank you, sir. Why not invoke article five then for the NATO peacekeeping forces that could potentially be deployed? Like, how does that deter President Putin?

DEFENSE SECRETARY PETE HEGSETH:  Well, I would say I want to be clear about something as it pertains to NATO membership not being realistic outcome for negotiations. That’s something that was stated as part of my remarks here as part of a coordination with how we’re executing these ongoing negotiations, which are led by President Trump.

All of that said, these negotiations are led by President Trump. Everything is on the table in his conversations with Vladimir Putin and Zelenskyy. What he decides to allow or not allow is at the purview of the leader of the free world of President Trump. So I’m not going to stand at this podium and declare what President Trump will do or won’t do, what will be in or what will be out, what concessions will be made or what concessions are not made.

I can look as our team has of what’s realistic, likely on an outcome. I think realism is an important part of the conversation that hasn’t existed enough inside conversations amongst friends. But simply pointing out realism, like the borders won’t be rolled back to what everybody would like them to be in 2014, is not a concession to Vladimir Putin. It’s a recognition of hard power realities on the ground after a lot of investment and sacrifice first by the Ukrainians and then by allies and then a realization that a negotiated peace is going to be some sort of demarcation that neither side wants. But it’s not my job as the Secretary of Defense to define the parameters of the President of the United States as he leads some of the most complex and consequential negotiations in the world.

UNKNOWN:  Sticking with the US press, let us go with Axios’ Zach Basu right in the far right.

Q:  Thank you, Mr. Secretary. Given the position you’ve now staked out, what leverage exactly is Ukraine being left with, especially if the US also plans to wind down its military aid? And then quickly, if a NATO ally is attacked by Russia or any country, will the US unequivocally uphold its obligations under article five regardless of that country’s —

DEFENSE SECRETARY PETE HEGSETH:  — We’ve said we’re committed to the alliance and that’s part of the alliance, right? You pointed out article five. You point out article three — it’s just a cheap — I’m not saying it’s cheap coming from you — but it’s just a cheap political point to say, oh, we’ve left all the negotiating cards off the table by recognizing some realities that exist on the ground. President Zelenskyy understands the realities on the ground. President Putin understands the realities on the ground. And President Trump, as a dealmaker, as a negotiator, understands those dynamics as well.

By no means is anything that I state here, even though we lead the most powerful military in the world, hemming in the commander in chief, in his negotiations, to ultimately decide where it goes or does not go. Well, he’s got all the cards he would like.

And the interesting part is oftentimes while the conventional status quo mindset or the legacy media wants to play checkers, the same checkers game we’ve been playing for decades, President Trump time and time again finds a way to play chess — as a dealmaker, as a businessman who understands how to create realities and opportunities where they otherwise may not exist.

Take for example, the conversations that our treasury secretary had in Kyiv recently with President Zelenskyy, which will continue in Munich with our vice president and secretary of state, around investments and resources inside Ukraine. I don’t want to get ahead of any decision or announcement that could be made there, it could be any number of parameters.

But President Trump as a dealmaker and a businessman recognizes that an investment relationship with Ukraine, ultimately in the long term for the United States, is a lot more tangible than any promises or shared values we might have, even though we have them. There is something to relationships and deals in real ways, whether militarily or economically or diplomatically, that he sees that are possibilities that could forge together a lot of opportunities to show that solidarity that Vladimir Putin will clearly recognize.

That’s one of any number of other opportunities that this president will leverage in these high-stake negotiations. So, I just reject on its face the premise that somehow President Trump isn’t dealing with a full set of cards when he’s the one that can determine ultimately what cards he holds.

UNKNOWN:  Great. Now shifting to the international press, we’ll take the French wire service Agence France Presse with Max Delaney.

Q:  Thank you very much, Secretary of Defense. Can you — you’ve spoken about trying to force both Putin and Zelenskyy to the table. Can you give a guarantee that no deal will be forced on Ukraine that they do not want to accept? And also, that you will include Europe in the negotiations about their own — about an issue that concerns European security? And can you tell us whether the US will continue to supply arms to Ukraine during any negotiations?

DEFENSE SECRETARY PETE HEGSETH:  Well, to the first part of your question, that’s not ultimately my decision. The president will lead these negotiations alongside our secretary of state, our national security advisor, and numerous other officials that will be involved. And ultimately, we’ve played our role in talking to our NATO allies about what that would look like.

President Trump, I want to point out, I’ve got the truth’s right here that he posted, called both, in case we missed it, Vladimir Putin and President Zelenskyy, called them both. Any negotiation that’s had will be had with both.

I also am very encouraged by what the secretary general has said here. Clearly attuned to the realities of the moment, the need for peace, and that the NATO alliance and European members will play a role in that.

Ultimately, President Trump speaking to those two countries is central to the deal being made. But it affects a lot of people, of course. So, I’m not going to be involved in those intimate diplomatic negotiations. That’s for the pros atop the Trump administration who do diplomacy and negotiations. Ultimately as security assistance, we have continued to provide what has been allocated.

I think it would be fair to say that things like future funding, either less or more, could be on the table in negotiations as well. Whatever the president determines is the most robust carrot or stick on either side to induce a durable peace, understanding, obviously, the motivations that Vladimir Putin has had on Ukraine for quite some time. Thank you.

We’ll start with the easy one: President Zelenskyy did not agree to and sign the deal that Bessent brought to him in Ukraine yesterday. If he wouldn’t sign it in Kyiv, I’m not sure why Hegseth thinks President Zelenskyy will sign it in Munich.

I want to really focus on the rancid meat here: the idea that somehow Trump is on control over when this war ends. He’s not. To a large extent Putin is. He illegally re-invaded Ukraine, it is his military committing genocidal war crimes and crimes against humanity every day. It is his country illegally occupying a good chunk of Ukraine. This could all end tomorrow if Russia stops its genocidal re-invasion and pulls its troops back to the international recognized borders.

The other main player is the Ukrainians, who are currently led by President Zelenskyy.

You can’t negotiate an end to a war between one non-participant/belligerent and one of the two actual parties to the war, who is also the aggressor. You can, but like the not an actual ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon, the latter of which was not actually at war with Israel, you don’t actually get an end to hostilities. Which is why the Israelis stuck Beirut this morning.

The Russians, of course, are thrilled:

⚡️US is Russia’s ‘main counterpart’ in talks to end war, Kremlin says.

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said that Kyiv “will definitely take part in the negotiations in one way or another,” but there will also be a “bilateral Russian-American track.”

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— The Kyiv Independent (@kyivindependent.com) February 13, 2025 at 11:31 AM

I get that Trump’s understanding of how any of this works is minuscule, that Hegseth is in way over his head, and that Rubio is out of the loop and being managed by a zampolit, but whether they or Putin like it or not, the Ukrainians get a vote. I also expect the Poles, the Estonians, the Latvians, the Lithuanias, the Romanians, the Finns, the Swedes, and the Norwegians will also have something to say.

In fact, I think what we’ve been observing over the past almost three years is the emergence of a new security alliance that will include Ukraine, Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, and Moldova. I would also expect that Finland would be involved and, most likely, Sweden and Norway. If Russia thinks it has had trouble actually winning its three day special military operation against Ukraine, it should really think about what a war with an alliance of some or all those states. As I’ve written many times, Poland’s President Duda is spoiling for a fight with Russia. And since the Polish general who was in charge of their modernization program for several years is my former student, I know that Poland can put their money where their mouth is.

Kaja Kallas declared that Europe will back Ukraine if it rejects a U.S.-Russia deal.
“Any agreement without Ukraine and Europe will fail… Ukraine will resist, and Europe will support it.” – Head of the European External Action Service.

— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) February 13, 2025 at 9:46 AM

Trump and Hegseth and whomever else can posture and shit talk all they want, the reality is that they have either already made things worse in several crises or are going to get hit by expansions of them in the next several months. In the past week Trump has blown up the Israel-Hamas ceasefire that he took credit for when all he did was get Bibi to stop holding out because the latter thinks he can play the former like a fiddle. In doing so he has put the future of both the Israeli-Egyptian and the Israeli-Jordanian peace agreements in jeopardy, let alone the lives of any remaining hostages. The Israel-Lebanon ceasefire was never worth the paper it was printed on because the actual other party to the conflict – Hezbullah – is not a party to the ceasefire agreement. That one’s on the Biden team, but Israel has never actually abided by the ceasefire agreement and is not going to start now that Trump is president. And this is on deck:

This is the real news, buried in the warning of an Israeli strike. “The US assessment found that an Israeli attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities would at best set back its activities by months, and potentially only by weeks, said current & former officials” www.washingtonpost.com/national-sec…

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— Shashank Joshi (@shashj.bsky.social) February 13, 2025 at 8:29 AM

Just as Biden’s presidency wound up consumed by events in eastern Europe and the Middle East they had not foreseen, were not ready for, and had the wrong makes, models, and types of senior personnel in place to deal with, so to will Trump’s. For all that I was and am unhappy with how Biden and his team handled these crises, they are going to look like the A-Team compared to the mess that Trump and his team are going to be as events over take what they want to do.

One other item: I’ve advised three Canadian generals and was one of the professors for the now former Chief of the Canadian Defense Forces. If Trump thinks the Canadians cannot defend themselves, he’s got another think coming.

Moldova:

Moldova to close Russian Cultural Center after Russian Shahed drones crash on Moldova territory

“After the termination procedures are completed, the Russian Cultural Center must cease its activities in our country,” the Moldovan Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) February 13, 2025 at 8:38 AM

Drone debris labeled “Geran-2” was presented to Russia’s special envoy in Chișinău, Oleg Ozerov, as evidence of Russia’s involvement in the recent attacks on Moldova’s territory. However, the Russian diplomat claims that this evidence is insufficient and demands “additional investigations.”

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) February 13, 2025 at 3:09 PM

Back to Ukraine.

You can go as far as to add Article 15 to the 1949 North Atlantic Treaty, which would say, “Ukraine will absolutely never, ever, ever, ever join NATO under any circumstances because Putin wants that,” and Russia will still not leave Ukraine alone and will not stop the war.

Guess why.

— Illia Ponomarenko (@ioponomarenko.bsky.social) February 13, 2025 at 4:10 PM

Chamberlain 1938
Trump 2025

— Tatarigami (@tatarigami.bsky.social) February 13, 2025 at 6:00 AM

Ukrainian military helicopter Mi-24 which intercepted a 25 Shahed kamikaze drones launched by Russians. (Or 22 Shahed and 3 drones of another model)

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) February 13, 2025 at 7:49 PM

Kramatorsk:

Today, russia struck the residential area of Kramatorsk, killing 1 persons and injuring 5 others, including a child.
“putin wants deaths to stop…”🤦‍♀️

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) February 13, 2025 at 2:57 PM

Russian occupied Crimea:

Partisans of the “ATESH” movement continue to document how Russians are trying to strengthen the Balaklava Bay in occupied Crimea. They are installing new boom barriers against unmanned boats and underwater drones. Additionally, Russians are mining entrance areas.

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) February 13, 2025 at 6:34 AM

Tver, Russia:

Anonymous sources in the SBU reported that drones struck the “Andreapol” oil refinery station in Tver, Russia.
It’s the second attack on this facility.
The recent strike caused a fire in the area of the closed distribution device and temporarily halted oil pumping.

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) February 13, 2025 at 10:17 AM

From The Kyiv Independent:

Ukrainian drones hit the Andreapol oil pumping station in Russia’s Tver Oblast for the second time in two weeks overnight on Feb. 13, a source in the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) told the Kyiv Independent.

According to the source, the oil pumping station that came under the SBU‘s attack is part of the Baltic Pipeline System-2 operated by Russian state-owned oil pipeline company Transneft.

The attack caused a fire near a closed switchgear and boiler equipment warehouse, the source said, forcing the facility to suspend oil pumping.

The station is located around 750 kilometers (466 miles) north of Ukrainian border.

“Every day this oil pumping station’s idle time costs Russia tens of millions of dollars , since it is part of the pipeline that supplies oil to the Ust-Luga terminal on the Baltic Sea,” the source said.

The Kyiv Independent could not verify these reports.

If confirmed, this is the second drone attack on the facility. The first one was carried on Jan. 29, damaging the filtration pumping area and additive tanks at the station, a source in the SBU told the Kyiv Independent.

Kyiv considers oil refineries to be valid military targets, as profits from the fossil fuel industry fund Russia’s war machine.

Russia’s petroleum facilities and infrastructure are dual use facilities, which places them within what US doctrine calls collateral damage estimate (CDE) level 5. Dual use facilities are permitted targets if they are determined to be militarily necessary targets, but they require a potential casualty estimate

Moscow:

GUR reported that two advanced radar systems were destroyed near Moscow. This is a cutting-edge development of the Russian military-industrial complex – the first of its kind to be adopted into service by the Russian army.

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) February 13, 2025 at 7:40 AM

That’s enough for tonight.

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Just thinking about my dear friends in Ukraine.

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— The Spirit of Lorenzo the Cat (@lorenzothecat.bsky.social) February 12, 2025 at 4:53 PM

Here’s Patron (@patronthedog.bsky.social), the explosives sniffing dog, teaching Ukrainian children about the dangers of unexploded Russian landmines. The program was funded by USAID.

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— The Spirit of Lorenzo the Cat (@lorenzothecat.bsky.social) February 3, 2025 at 9:04 AM

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