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War for Ukraine Day 694: Speaker Johnson is Doing Trump’s Bidding

by Adam L Silverman|  January 18, 20248:18 pm| 36 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

Part of the reason that Speaker Johnson has stated he will hold up the border security in exchange for supplemental aid to Ukraine is because Trump has told him to.

Isolationism and complete misunderstanding of American national interest. They are standing on the wrong side of history and will be judged harshly. https://t.co/6GKzHIF3iW

— Maria Popova 🇨🇦 (@PopovaProf) January 17, 2024

👀 Laura Ingraham says Trump just told her he opposes the Senate immigration deal and wants Mike Johnson to oppose it too, doesn’t think it’s needed to secure the border.

“President Trump is not wrong,” Johnson responds. “He and I have been talking about this pretty frequently.”

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) January 18, 2024

This is because 1) Trump wants to be able to continue to use immigration and the border as political weapons during the 2024 campaign and 2) he also wants Ukraine to lose. Johnson, of course, doesn’t want to be politically defenestrated by his own coalition because he believes he’s on a mission from the Deity.

Here is President Zelenskyy’s address from earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

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Blocking Russia’s ways to circumvent sanctions means blocking terror – address by the President of Ukraine

18 January 2024 – 20:01

I wish you health, fellow Ukrainians!

Briefly about this day.

A very positive, truly inspiring conversation with President of France Macron.

I thanked him for the creation of an artillery coalition within our Ramstein defense format and for France’s willingness to supply Ukraine with dozens of very effective CAESAR artillery systems and ammunition for them this year.

We will further bolster our air defense as well, and I thank France for its powerful decisions.

Of course, today we discussed the situation on the battlefield in Ukraine – the details at the moment, and the prospects. Accordingly, we discussed what is important to include in the new defense package that France is currently preparing.

And, on top of all that, we discussed the work with France on security commitments for Ukraine. We are preparing a bilateral agreement.

Emmanuel, Mr. President, thank you once again.

We continue our communication with partners on sanctions against Russia – their full effect. All of our diplomatic representatives must step up their efforts to ensure that our partners respond more actively to every instance of Russia’s circumvention of sanctions.

This is not just an abstract question – it’s about how a terrorist state produces weapons, including missiles. All Russian missiles have dozens of critical components manufactured abroad, many of them by companies from the free world. Today, the Head of the Foreign Intelligence Service of Ukraine, Oleksandr Lytvynenko, made a report on this. These are clear facts. So blocking the ways Russia circumvents sanctions is literally blocking terror. I am grateful to all partners who understand this and to everyone in the world who helps us in this work.

Today I also held a meeting with the head of our government, Denys Shmyhal. First of all, we discussed the energy sector, the protection and capabilities of our energy system. Consumption is high now, and the threats from the enemy are extremely high, but the professional work of our power engineers and all those responsible for the protection of energy facilities makes it possible to provide the country with light and heat. And this is important. There was also a separate report on the protection of strategic energy facilities. The report was made by Deputy Prime Minister Oleksandr Kubrakov.

The Prime Minister also reported today on the situation in our financial system. The situation is stable, and social payments are being disbursed in full. Moreover, this is being done without issuance. And by the way, I would like to thank all our taxpayers in the country – everyone who keeps jobs in Ukraine, ensures production, and works legally and cleanly. Last year, despite the war, we had economic growth of 5% and an increase in tax payments that corresponds to the growth in the economy. This is a clear sign of Ukraine’s strength. And the state really appreciates everyone who works, pays taxes, and thus contributes to our common ability to defend the state and independence despite all the difficulties.

A separate report by the Prime Minister was made on the construction of fortifications. The work is ongoing, and I am grateful to everyone involved. The results are exactly what we need.

Glory to everyone who defends our country, who fights and works for Ukraine and who is as active as possible to ensure that Ukraine, Ukrainian companies, and Ukrainians get the results they need.

Glory to Ukraine!

France:

We are grateful to our French partners at @Armees_Gouv for their leadership in establishing the Artillery coalition.

Today, the Minister of the Armed Forces, Sébastien Lecornu @SebLecornu, announced that France would deliver 6 Caesars in the coming weeks and was capable of… https://t.co/eGNshutTuz

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) January 18, 2024

We are grateful to our French partners at @Armees_Gouv for their leadership in establishing the Artillery coalition.

Today, the Minister of the Armed Forces, Sébastien Lecornu @SebLecornu, announced that France would deliver 6 Caesars in the coming weeks and was capable of producing 72 additional ones in 2024 for Ukraine.
Thank you, France!
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France will start supplying Ukraine with Armement Air-Sol Modulaire (AASM) aerial bombs. According to French Defense Minister Sébastien Lecornu the monthly output throughout 2024 will 50 missiles, starting in January.

Source: https://t.co/43WJQLoxCa#France #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/V2zopBrdF1

— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar) January 18, 2024

Bakhmut:

https://twitter.com/Teoyaomiquu/status/1748005411943235997

As promised I’m posting the video about the russian failed assault around Invanivske (Bakhmut)

The assault was repelled and many Ukrainian lives and lives of my friends were saved, and I can say that it happened thanks to you.

Ukrainian troops have to conserve the ammo and even VOG17 (automatic grenade launcher ammo used as droplets from drones) is scarce. However, because of our support, the troops have drones and make one round as effective as 20 before.

The succesful defense is also was also made possible by skilled drone operators and coordination between them, at timestamp 2:05 on this video, you can see an effective use of drone pairs. Two pilots wait for the infantry to dismount the IFV and coordinate drops to ensure devastating effect on russian troops.

In the end I want to ask you to help our efforts to support our troops by donating here: https://paypal.com/pools/c/919PcoYG0W

The aid goes directly to our troops, they need our help more than ever before.

Drones Save Lives.

Slava Ukraini.

Russian occupied Luhansk Oblast:

A very curious situation developed in the so-called "Luhansk People's Republic": former employees of Wagner PMC, now attached to the 331st Regiment, 98th Division, decided on their own initiative to fight drug crime in the occupied territory.

According to the report, the… pic.twitter.com/oweA388ei5

— WarTranslated (@wartranslated) January 19, 2024

A very curious situation developed in the so-called “Luhansk People’s Republic”: former employees of Wagner PMC, now attached to the 331st Regiment, 98th Division, decided on their own initiative to fight drug crime in the occupied territory.

According to the report, the fighters identified the narcotics traffic channel that supplied cannabis to the Russian servicemen, and rounded up people they believed to be involved in it, including a road traffic officer, without reporting to the local “police”. They recorded all footage of their righteous actions.

According to the fighters, the commander of the traffic “police” officer accused of selling drugs said that he would get his subordinate out and do his best to imprison the fighters.

The ex-Wagner fighters then received information this morning stating that their base in Stakhanov was about to be “assaulted”, and recorded a video appeal to stop it.

What is known so far is that the men were detained by local “police” for interrogation. Perhaps we will have access to more information later. I translated as much as I could in the time I had available. A lot more footage in Russain can be accessed here: https://t.me/romanov_92/43906

To be frank, this is probably the most batshit insane stuff I’ve seen this week.

Avdiivka:

Fighters of the 25th Assault Battalion of the 47th Mechanised Brigade talk about their experience defending Avdiivka. pic.twitter.com/IfCoIK85iS

— WarTranslated (@wartranslated) January 18, 2024

Destruction of the Russian T-72B3 on the Avdiivka front. Interestingly, the author points out that Russians used this previously abandoned tank as an ammunition storage.https://t.co/0N5oweX2s3 pic.twitter.com/nbJXWMioSy

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) January 18, 2024

Nova Khakovka, Kherson Oblast:

Newly published archival footage of HIMARS strike on Russian column (as said with EW systems) in Nova Kakhovka, Kherson Region.
(46.7436857, 33.3750734)https://t.co/6GDE4PpVKP pic.twitter.com/i54KXrBAGU

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) January 18, 2024

It’s HIMARS O’Clock:

Left bank of the Dnipro, Russian occupied Kherson Oblast:

Russian Msta-S self propelled howitzer destroyed by FPV drone in the left bank Kherson region. https://t.co/CrXDvTw03y pic.twitter.com/SDGSXfZN1Q

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) January 18, 2024

Sevastopol, Russian occupied Crimea:

Electricity in some parts of Russian-occupied Sevastopol is gone.

Source: https://t.co/RnvJTeyoEK#Ukraine #Crimea #Sevastopol pic.twitter.com/9bKIDGj7la

— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar) January 18, 2024

Stary Oskol, Belgorod Oblast, Russia:

In Stary Oskol, Belgorod Region, somebody turned an electrical substation into an open air disco.

Source: https://t.co/hLFCkYopRt#Russia #Belgorod #Bilhorod pic.twitter.com/Jq0k7nIzbJ

— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar) January 18, 2024

Foreign Affairs has published a new essay by Graham Allison on the Trump effect as a result of the 2024 election. Here are some excerpts:

Leaders are now beginning to wake up to the fact that a year from now, former U.S. President Donald Trump could actually be returning to the White House. Accordingly, some foreign governments are increasingly factoring into their relationship with the United States what may come to be known as the “Trump put”—delaying choices in the expectation that they will be able to negotiate better deals with Washington a year from now because Trump will effectively establish a floor on how bad things can get for them. Others, by contrast, are beginning to search for what might be called a “Trump hedge”—analyzing the ways in which his return will likely leave them with worse options and preparing accordingly.

Russian President Vladimir Putin’s calculations in his war against Ukraine provide a vivid example of the Trump put. In recent months, as a stalemate has emerged on the ground, speculation has grown about Putin’s readiness to end the war. But as a result of the Trump put, it is far more likely that the war will still be raging this time next year. Despite some Ukrainians’ interest in an extended cease-fire or even an armistice to end the killing before another grim winter takes its toll, Putin knows that Trump has promised to end the war “in one day.” In Trump’s words: “I would tell [Ukrainian President Volodymyr] Zelensky, no more [aid]. You got to make a deal.” Facing a good chance that a year from now, Trump will offer terms much more advantageous for Russia than anything U.S. President Joe Biden would offer or Zelensky would agree to today, Putin will wait.

Ukraine’s allies in Europe, by contrast, must consider a Trump hedge. As the war approaches the end of its second year, daily pictures of destruction and deaths caused by Russian airstrikes and artillery shells have upended European illusions of living in a world in which war has become obsolete. Predictably, this has led to a revival of enthusiasm for the NATO alliance and its backbone: the U.S. commitment to come to the defense of any ally that is attacked. But as reports of polls showing Trump besting Biden are beginning to sink in, there is a growing fear. Germans, in particular, remember former Chancellor Angela Merkel’s conclusion from her painful encounters with Trump. As she described it, “We must fight for our future on our own.”

Trump is not the only U.S. leader to ask why a European community that has three times the population of Russia and a GDP more than nine times its size has to continue to depend on Washington to defend it. In an oft-cited interview with The Atlantic’s chief editor, Jeffrey Goldberg, in 2016, U.S. President Barack Obama lacerated Europeans (and others) for being “free riders.” But Trump has gone further. According to John Bolton, who was then Trump’s national security adviser, Trump said, “I don’t give a shit about NATO” during a 2019 meeting in which he talked seriously about withdrawing from the alliance altogether. In part, Trump’s threats were a bargaining ploy to force European states to meet their commitment to spend two percent of GDP on their own defense—but only in part. After two years of attempting to persuade Trump about the importance of the United States’s alliances, Secretary of Defense James Mattis concluded that his differences with the president were so profound that he could no longer serve, a position he explained candidly in his 2018 letter of resignation. Today, Trump’s campaign website calls for “fundamentally reevaluating NATO’s purpose and NATO’s mission.” When considering how many tanks or artillery shells to send to Ukraine, some Europeans are now pausing to ask whether they might need those arms for their own defense were Trump to be elected in November.

Historically, there have been eras when differences between Democrats and Republicans on major foreign policy issues were so modest that it could be said that “politics stops at the water’s edge.” This decade, however, is not one of them. Unhelpful as it may be to foreign-policy makers and their counterparts abroad, the U.S. Constitution schedules quadrennial equivalents of what in the business world would be an attempted hostile takeover.

As a result, on every issue—from negotiations on climate or trade or NATO’s support for Ukraine to attempts to persuade Putin, Chinese President Xi Jinping, or Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman to act—Biden and his foreign policy team are finding themselves increasingly handicapped as their counterparts weigh Washington’s promises or threats against the likelihood that they will be dealing with a very different government a year from now. This year promises to be a year of danger as countries around the world watch U.S. politics with a combination of disbelief, fascination, horror, and hope. They know that this political theater will choose not only the next president of the United States but also the world’s most consequential leader.

Much more at the link.

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Running Out of Patience

by WaterGirl|  January 18, 20245:30 pm| 146 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Israel, Open Threads, Politics

Biden “running out” of patience with Bibi as Gaza war hits 100 days  (Axios)

Biden is running out of patience with Bibi and the destruction of Gaza?  So say we all.

Snippets from the article:

President Biden and other senior U.S. officials are becoming increasingly frustrated with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his rejection of most of the administration’s recent requests related to the war in Gaza, four U.S. officials with direct knowledge of the issue told Axios.

Behind the scenes: Biden hasn’t spoken to Netanyahu in the 20 days since a tense Dec. 23 call, which a frustrated Biden ended with the words: “This conversation is over.” They had spoken almost every other day in the first two months of the war.

Before Biden hung up, Netanyahu had rejected his request that Israel release the Palestinian tax revenues it’s withholding.

State of play: The main driver of Biden’s frustration is Netanyahu’s resistance to moving on requests that are U.S. priorities.

In addition to the tax revenue issue, Biden and his advisers believe Israel isn’t doing enough to allow humanitarian aid into Gaza.
They’re also frustrated by Netanyahu’s unwillingness to seriously discuss plans for the day after the war and his rejection of the U.S. plan for a reformed Palestinian Authority to have a role in post-Hamas Gaza.

U.S. officials are now growing increasingly concerned that Israel won’t meet its timetable to transition to low-intensity operations in Gaza by the end of January, based on where things stand in Gaza, particularly in the southern city of Khan Younis.

If Israel doesn’t significantly scale down its operations in Gaza — which U.S. officials have been pressing for in hopes of reducing Palestinian casualties — it will likely become increasingly difficult for Biden to maintain the same level of support for Israel’s military campaign.

The big picture: Secretary of State Tony Blinken’s visit to Israel last week only exacerbated the frustrations within the White House and the State Department, the U.S. officials who spoke to Axios said.

Netanyahu did agree to allow a UN mission to enter northern Gaza to assess the needs for the future return of Palestinian civilians to the area, but that was about all he was willing to give Blinken.
Blinken was very blunt with Netanyahu and his War Cabinet, stressing that the Israeli government’s plan for the day after the war is “pie in the sky,” a U.S. official said.

Blinken, who pointedly visited Jordan, Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Qatar before heading to Israel, also told Israeli leaders that “no Arab country is going to bail them out” on the rebuilding and governance of Gaza if Israel doesn’t allow the PA to have a role and doesn’t allow for a political horizon for the Palestinians, the official said.

Going Forward / Long Term:

The Biden administration is trying to change Netanyahu’s calculus by reviving efforts to reach a mega-deal with Saudi Arabia that would include a historic peace deal with Israel.

Blinken told Netanyahu that Saudi Arabia still wants normalization after the war ends, but only if Israel commits to the principle of a two-state solution, U.S. and Israeli officials previously told Axios.

During last week’s visit, Blinken held a separate meeting with war cabinet minister Benny Gantz, who domestic polls show would likely handily win an Israeli election if it were held today.

Blinken also met with opposition leader Yair Lapid and Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, Netanyahu’s key rival inside the prime minister’s Likud party.

Not exactly sure who linked to the Axios article earlier.  Maybe Baud?

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Nearly a month ago, it was reported by the UN that more than half a million people in the Gaza strip are starving.  And the ones who aren’t starving are surely not getting enough to eat.  Not getting enough medical care.  Homes are being destroyed.  Is there even clean water?  Medicine?  Surely not enough.

Is Israel trying to bomb Palestinians out of existence under the guise of going after Hamas?  We already know that Russia is trying to do that with Ukraine.

Just as with Covid, there are some who view people as expendable.  Martyrs to a cause that is not their own.  We have always know who Putin was; no surprises there.  Men like Bibi and Trump, who thumb their nose at the courts and say fuck you to the United Nations and NATO and other institutions – and thumb their noses to long-time allies – also have to be stopped.  Along with the Republicans in the House – basically all of them – who have abdicated their responsibilities to the country, to the American people.  Their only loyalty is to their own power.

I know we have to vote them out, but what about the people who are dying every day in Gaza and Ukraine?  They cannot wait 10 months for elections.

Propaganda abounds.  People who are trying to help Palestinians are being accused of being anti-semitic.

Hopefully – surely – this must be the last gasp of those trying to hang on to power at all costs.  But what can we do in the meantime?   People are dying.  There has to be something we can do, right?  Right?

Running out of patience.  Indeed.

 

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This Is Trump’s Idea of Winning

by WaterGirl|  January 18, 20244:37 pm| 159 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Trump Indictments

Posted without comment.  Okay, posted without much comment.

We already know that Trump has terrible judgment, but how can his attorneys think that all the crap he is pulling in court is a good idea?  Seriously, isn’t learning to control your client Lawyering 101?

This Is Trump's Idea of Winning

This Is Trump's Idea of Winning 1

Okay, one more thing.  I was in the WordPress Media Library and I saw this image out of the corner of my eye, it looked like someone was mooning me.  Is it just me, or do you guys see that, too, when the image is out of context?

And Done

Totally open thread.

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Something Weird in Florida (Open Thread)

by Betty Cracker|  January 18, 20243:32 pm| 76 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity, Republican Venality

This is sort of a follow-up to my post yesterday about a Democrat in Central Florida flipping a statehouse seat. Scott Maxwell is an Orlando Sentinel columnist — a centrist who plays it exactly down the middle, or at least did until Florida Republicans went full crypto-fascist.

Here are excerpts from Maxwell’s column on the special election:

Something weird is happening in Florida. Democrats are winning. For the first time in years.

When Navy veteran Tom Keen surprised the political establishment Tuesday, flipping a legislative district from red to blue, it was huge.

How huge? Well, the last time voters cast ballots in this district, Republicans won by 11 points. On Tuesday, they lost by 3. That’s a big swing — especially in a race where Republicans massively outspent their opponents.

More significantly, from a big-picture standpoint, this Democratic flip in Central Florida comes on the heels of other big, surprising Democratic swings…

As one who has covered politics in this state for more than a quarter of a century, I can tell you this is not normal. For years, Florida Democrats have racked up one loss after another. Sometimes by wee margins. Often by landslides. But almost always consistent losses.

Yet now — after a few years of a GOP supermajority in Tallahassee fuming about Disney, drag queens and rainbow flags while insurance rates skyrocketed and SAT scores dropped — voters seem ready for a course correction…

Again, I still think it’s way too early to predict a blue wave in Florida in 2024. It’s hard to overstate the money-advantage Republicans will have. Democrats haven’t unseated a Republican from statewide office in more than three decades. If Trump is on the ballot in November, he’ll energize the Republican base in a way few other candidates can. And it’s worth re-emphasizing that Democrats still aren’t turning out at the polls the way Republicans do. A slightly higher percentage of Republicans still cast ballots Tuesday.

But for now, we’re seeing a trend that says moderate voters have had enough of the culture chaos and are looking to balance the scales a bit — which is something Florida hasn’t seen in a long, long time.

I share Maxwell’s wait-and-see attitude about Florida’s fate, but I think he’s right to notice a growing backlash. As usual, Florida is the lag-wagon. The “red wave” we were told was coming for Democrats nationally in 2022 actually materialized here, which was the whole premise of the DeSantis 2024 candidacy.

Well, we can all see how that’s going. After DeSantis joins Tim Pawlenty, Scott Walker and Jeb Bush in the dustbin of media-created Republican presidential candidates who flopped spectacularly, voters will take a look at the actual GOP juggernaut — the defendant who’s currently acting out in court like a juvenile delinquent while jurors consider damage awards for his sexual assault victim’s successful defamation suit.

Maybe its naive of me, but outside the cult, I don’t think Trump is making a great case for his candidacy in court, and I suspect that will become clear once the pretenders are shooed offstage. As in Florida, we’ll see.

Open thread.

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Dimon Dogs (Open Thread)

by Betty Cracker|  January 18, 202411:39 am| 243 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Open Threads, Politics

U.S.-based oligarch Jamie Dimon is glib and clueless in the way all plutocrats are, coasting along the upper strata with maximum arrogance and entitlement. But perhaps in a nod to egalitarianism, he’s glib and clueless in the common way too: (CNBC)

JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon on Wednesday praised former President Donald Trump’s record and admonished Democrats to be “more respectful” of Trump’s supporters, or else risk hurting President Joe Biden’s reelection bid.

“I wish the Democrats would think a little more carefully when they talk about MAGA,” Dimon said on CNBC’s “Squawk Box,” referencing Trump’s supporters by the acronym of his “Make America Great Again” campaign slogan.

Dimon argued that using the phrase “MAGA” incorrectly links Trump’s supporters to the former president’s personality and character.

Democrats “are basically scapegoating them, [saying] that you are like him,” Dimon said. “I don’t think they’re voting for Trump because of his family values,” he said.

That’s exactly why they’re voting for him, Jamie Dimon — because they aspire to be like him. The MAGA cult worships Trump’s transgressive style because they simultaneously lack character and are poor judges of it. That’s why the “fuck your feelings” ethos from the world’s whiniest snowflake delights even prim church ladies of a certain hue. The widespread adoption of that ethos is why public officials can no longer conduct the people’s business without death threats and swatting hoaxes.

We can be sure it’s Trump’s style that appeals rather than substance because MAGA dopes sure as hell aren’t lining up for more of Trump’s sole policy accomplishment, which was a tax cut that was actually unpopular because it benefited people like Dimon and his corporation. I didn’t even know it was possible for a tax cut to be unpopular in this country until that happened.

Upon reflection, there’s nothing egalitarian about Dimon’s scolding. As a true elitist who would be a target of a genuine populist rather than a fake one like Trump, Dimon misunderstands the people he’s infantilizing. His disapproval is a signal that the president is exactly right to call out the MAGA extremists. They are a threat to democracy and must be confronted, though folks like Dimon don’t perceive the threat since they figure they’ll be fine no matter what.

It’s an open question as to whether there are enough non-MAGA small-c conservatives left to form a bulwark with Democrats against the authoritarian tide that swept most Republicans away. Biden is betting that there are.

I don’t know if it’s the “smart” bet, but it’s the only bet. Dimon, who’s dogging Biden for telling the truth, doesn’t understand that because he’s a clueless elitist who thinks he’s immune. It’s another reason to thank merciful dog “smart” people like Dimon aren’t in charge. We’d already be lost if they were.

Open thread.

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NYT Pitchbot Interviewed on Aaron Rupar’s Public Notice Substack

by WaterGirl|  January 18, 202410:20 am| 110 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

A few excerpts from the DougJ interview.  You might have to sign up for the substack to read the whole thing.

We knew him when…

h/t Babette, a longtime lurker

“Here’s why that’s bad news for Biden”: A chat with NYT Pitchbot

The legend himself speaks to Public Notice.

by Aaron Rupar / Thor

Tweeting is just a hobby for the man behind Pitchbot, a 50-something math professor living in Rochester, New York. (We agreed to not disclose his identity.  But he has a big following because his tweets, as absurdist as they can be, speak to the real shortcomings of news media in the age of Trumpism.

“My tweets critique how the media frames things,” he told us. “They help get to the bottom of all the both sidesing and ridiculous framing that goes on at places like the New York Times.”

Public Notice contributor Thor Benson connected with “Doug” for a chat about the inspiration for the New York Times Pitchbot and its evolution over time. A transcript of their conversation, lightly edited for length and clarity, follows.

Thor Benson

Tell me about how the New York Times Pitchbot got started.

New York Times Pitchbot

I had been blogging on this site called Balloon Juice for a while, and when I had kids, blogging or writing anything long form became kind of impossible. So I got interested in Twitter, and I really liked these accounts called the Federalist Pitchbot and Reason Pitchbot. I thought they were really funny.

I decided I’d like to do something like that, so I did New York Times Pitchbot. I did it for a couple weeks — kind of intermittently — and then a conservative journalist friend of mine told me, “This is a great bit. You should really stick with it.” A few weeks later, another journalist who’s a friend of mine told me that he really liked the bit, too, so that’s how I got into it.

Thor Benson

When did it start taking off?

New York Times Pitchbot

It changed a lot. I started off trying to sound like the New York Times with the stilted headline style and old time, inside baseball jokes. Then I did one making fun of Jared and Ivanka — “Sources close to Jared and Ivanka say that privately the couple opposes the pandemic.”

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That one got retweeted all over the place, and suddenly I had a non-trivial number of followers.

I was like, “Hey, this really seems to work,” so I gradually got more and more into it, and it kept growing and growing. But I think like everybody else it kind of stopped growing when Elon took over and the traffic went down.

Thor Benson

Is it fair to say your jokes became more political over time?

New York Times Pitchbot

Initially, I thought it would be fun to make fun of all of the sheet pan articles and other ridiculous things the Times does, like when they visit a neighborhood and write about how hip it is. But I noticed people like the political tweets the best.

My tweets critique how the media frames things. They help get to the bottom of all the both sidesing and ridiculous framing that goes on at places like the New York Times. I originally didn’t really mean for it to be that but to be just a little fun and jokey, but then gradually the ironic critique thing seemed to be what people really liked.

At first I thought it’d be fun to just make up completely new, crazy headlines, but I realized people like a template. They do eventually get old to people, but it takes a long time. In a lot of ways, with these templates, people like the joke the tenth time in more than they liked it the first time.

The template ones do sound more like the New York Times, because they clearly use a template for their headlines.

Eventually I drifted into making fun of The Atlantic and these Substack and New York Magazine people who take themselves very seriously. Certain parts of what I do now are New York Times-specific, but a lot of it is more making fun of that whole adjacent group of self-important jackasses.

Thor Benson

Yeah, I’ve noticed you like to target people like Glenn Greenwald.

New York Times Pitchbot

The Glenn stuff — I just can’t help myself. People like it too. His feed is so ridiculous. With the New York Times, sometimes I’d go on the opinion page looking for something to make fun of, and I’d go through it and say, “Meh.” Unless it was a Pamela Paul day or a Bret Stephens day, I’d be like, “There’s really nothing here that gets my creative juices going.” Maybe it’s a little milquetoasty, but it’s not that bad.
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Making fun of Glenn just became its own kind of fun thing. The “who I do not support” really took off, which I didn’t make up myself. It was created by a guy who runs an account called “Glem Greenwald.”

Thor Benson

Have you ever had someone from the New York Times tell you they like your work?

New York Times Pitchbot

Yeah, a couple times, actually, but not often. What I’ve noticed is a lot of people from the Washington Post and other journalists follow me, but only like one or two people from the New York Times. I kind of wonder if they’re not supposed to.

I used a lede from a sports article to do a “bad news for Joe Biden” one, and the writer said he was honored that I used it, so I’ve had a couple interactions with New York Times people. Not very many, though.

Thor Benson

People love to tag you when they see something they think you’ll like. Do you get overwhelmed by that?

New York Times Pitchbot

I miss most of them, probably. At first, I would see them all. I still like to go into my mentions, because that’s where I find a lot of my best stuff. Most of the really crazy things I find and riff on, they’re usually something somebody found for me. They either DM’d me or they tagged me on it. I miss a lot of them. I get a lot of tags.

Thor Benson

Do you intentionally try to remain anonymous?

New York Times Pitchbot

Yeah. I don’t know how strong my rationale is for remaining anonymous anymore. Initially, I did it because I thought if conservatives read it, they might get mad. I have conservative students and colleagues. What I’ve found is that conservative people who are high information enough to be reading this account usually like it for whatever reason.

These days I’m a little more worried about the horseshoe left people. I find they really, really hate the account. Maybe it’s because I make fun of Glenn so much. I teach at a university, and if I have any really big Glenn fans in my classes, I don’t want them to know about it.

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Thursday Morning Open Thread: Some Things Change, Some Things Don’t

by Anne Laurie|  January 18, 20247:55 am| 170 Comments

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I am telling my kids these were the Planeteers ?? pic.twitter.com/IhmvTaTGrV

— Qondi (@QondiNtini) January 13, 2024

One thing thats true about Biden is that he really has a love for using local media to campaign rather than national television or new tech. We saw this in 2020 When he did morning news interviews on Ohio and PA stations and again this year with this+SC radio stations. https://t.co/o98iUJYlMe

— Adam Bass (@AdamBassOfMass) January 16, 2024

In the 117th Congress, the House Democratic Majority worked with @POTUS Biden to deliver on the kitchen table issues that matter to working families.

In the 118th Congress, the House Republican Majority has wasted time fighting among themselves and pushing political stunts. pic.twitter.com/5pR4QZrDDA

— Nancy Pelosi (@SpeakerPelosi) January 12, 2024

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WOW. President Biden just announced that his campaign raised more than $1.6 MILLION from grassroots donors in just 24 hours after the Iowa Caucus. Joe Biden is the real winner & no matter what the media & polls say, people are fired up to re-elect him in 2024. This is huge.

— Victor Shi (@Victorshi2020) January 17, 2024

Not saying it will be easy, but the choice is clear. The Biden campaign and administration are engaging us, centering our voices, and doing everything to earn our vote. The Republicans Party is actively working to make our lives worse. That matters & we will make them find out.

— Victor Shi (@Victorshi2020) January 16, 2024

It’s always helpful in understanding the racist backlash to Obama’s re-election when you remember that literally a fourth of the country’s white population (and even more of its white voters) disapproved of interracial marriage at the time of his first election. https://t.co/77nai12unJ

— Lakshya Jain (@lxeagle17) January 16, 2024

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