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Friday Night Clown Show Open Thread: The Repubs Are Broken (Also: Busted)

by Anne Laurie|  October 20, 20238:58 pm| 85 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Republican Politics, Republicans in Disarray!, Schadenfreude

REPORTER: Is the Republican conference broken?

McCARTHY: We're in a very bad place right now, yes pic.twitter.com/xkNhuLMQWZ

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 20, 2023

Note that McQarthy can barely keep the broad grin off his face…

Journamalistic botfly Tara Palmeri, at Puck, on “The Kevin McCarthy Revival Plot” (yesterday):

For a guy who was unceremoniously defenestrated just 17 days ago, Kevin McCarthy seems surprisingly sanguine. His smile is a little too wide, his voice a little too chipper. Amid the preposterously deepening post-motion-to-vacate House turmoil, McCarthy appears to be enjoying life—herding the press, holding on to the official @SpeakerMcCarthy Twitter handle, and sitting in on meetings with his wannabe successors, Jim Jordan and Patrick McHenry, as some reflect on his achievements as a generationally talented fundraiser who commanded unruly conference grievance sessions with aplomb.

McCarthy’s mirth, of course, hails from the fact that he is indeed an active participant in his own succession. Unlike John Boehner (who quit in a huff and quickly landed a board seat at Reynolds Tobacco and a cushy job as a weed lobbyist for Squire Patton & Boggs) or Paul Ryan (who rejected the Trump clown show for the higher calling of the Fox boardroom) or even former House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (who scampered off to Moelis), McCarthy is sticking around, for now. And he has leverage, particularly in the form of his fundraising juggernaut, through which he raised $80 million last cycle.

So what does McCarthy actually want? According to some McCarthy allies, his reluctance to wash his hands of the succession drama stems from the fact that he’s spent a long time building an unrivaled fundraising infrastructure inside the conference. Since becoming minority leader, in 2019, McCarthy helped raise a billion dollars. In 2020, despite Trump’s loss, McCarthy helped flip 14 seats for women, minority members, or veterans. In this altruistic rendition of events, McCarthy simply wants to leave the conference in a good place.

And yet McCarthy seems invested in finding a speaker who would need him the most. He helped tank the nomination of Steve Scalise, his former deputy, and the guy who would have had the most seamless transition with his own political infrastructure and army of fundraisers downtown…

Instead, McCarthy publicly whipped for Jim Jordan, a firebrand outsider who raised $14 million last cycle and detests the grip-and-grin part of donor maintenance. Jordan’s patrons on K-Street (which includes Big Tech) have described his fundraisers as “Star Wars bar parties,” referring to their lack of polish and deep pocketed mega donors—an insinuation that Jordan would need help from McCarthy and his people like Dan Conston at the leadership PAC or his top fundraiser Lauren Bryan. “Jim Jordan would be very deferential to Kevin on the fundraising apparatus; Jordan hates that shit, why wouldn’t he deputize Kevin to be in charge of that?” said another former leadership aide…

… But no matter who becomes speaker, it’s noticeable that McCarthy has been supporting members who would benefit from his largesse, perhaps setting up the sort of two-headed structure that many feared when Hakeem Jeffries ascended to minority leader and Nancy Pelosi stuck around as speaker emerita.“[Kevin’s] choosing weaker people who would need his support and depend on him,” said a former leadership aide.

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Regardless, these guys are now toast, which leads way to another theory working its way around town—the notion that McCarthy is saying and doing the right things in case his old allies fall flat, everyone gets pissed at Matt Gaetz and the motion-to-vacate crowd, and asks for a mulligan, thereby welcoming him back as the only master zookeeper capable of the job. And, indeed, I’m hearing from all corners of the conference—except, of course, from the rebellious eight—that Republicans all want McCarthy back. Rep. Michael McCaul sort of put it out there on CNN on Tuesday, too: “maybe we ought to look at Kevin McCarthy again,” he said.

And McCarthy isn’t exactly rejecting it out of hand. Officially, he has said that he plans to run again for reelection in 2024. “If [McCarthy] is going to run again then a position helping the team is going to help him, but I don’t know why he would want to be Nancy Pelosi,” said former congressman Rodney Davis, a McCarthy supporter who is now on K Street. “McCarthy wants it back,” said another source close to the McCarthy apparatus. “The smile on his face. He’s keeping the dream alive, meeting with billionaire fundraisers or potential clients this week.” As this source put it, “McCarthy is orchestrating his revival.”…

If there’s one thing that is clear about McCarthy, it’s that he’s shameless—or, perhaps, shame-proof. And now he appears to be sitting back and watching as his successors struggle to even reach the votes that he managed to secure to become speaker. After surviving through much of the year without any wiggle room, he’s never had so much juice. No wonder the guy seems so happy.

McCarthy is such a hollow man. https://t.co/tUUavlx39H

— Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom) October 20, 2023

McCarthy’s nominating speech for Jordan reminds me of what Adlai Stevenson said : “ it’s like an opera; when someone is stabbed, they sing.”

— Jeff Greenfield (@greenfield64) October 20, 2023

This guy sat in the Speaker Chair longer than Jim Jordan did. pic.twitter.com/OJXOsidloQ

— Rick Lenzie (@RickLenzie) October 20, 2023

Stupid voting and stuff https://t.co/86Kq0oPOF1

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) October 20, 2023

Gaetz ousted McCarthy because McCarthy wasn't advancing the Freedom Caucus agenda fast enough.

NOW, there's no Speaker. There's not going to BE a Speaker for the foreseeable future. And the MAGA agenda is dead in the water.

That's how he delivers for his district too. https://t.co/XTPpdfjgMO

— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) October 19, 2023

I stand by my reporting https://t.co/aWqyDg3NPB

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 20, 2023

Republicans are telling CNN that the problem was caused by Democrats voting against McCarthy — while describing him as the greatest fundraiser the Republicans have and extolling his conservative bonafides. You cannot make this stuff up.

— digby (@digby56) October 20, 2023

Monica Hesse, at the Washington Post, “Check out these Republican uncles, fighting over a gavel”:

… Here was Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), whose trademark has always been pugnacious shirt sleeves, suddenly muscling his shoulders into a suit jacket and campaigning for the role on Tuesday afternoon. This move seemed the equivalent of Donald Trump vowing to act presidential as soon as he won the election — a successful, delusional strategy — but would it work for Jordan? It would not. Twenty Republicans refused to vote for him, in a contest in which he could only afford to lose four.

Jordan’s bid came after the futile, short-lived quest of Majority Leader Steve Scalise (R-La.), who told reporters “our support continues to grow” last week, and who then dropped out of the race less than a day later when it turned out he didn’t have the votes.

Scalise’s crusade came after the punch-drunk collapse of Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) — who, upon hearing that a small faction of his colleagues wanted to oust him, tweeted “Bring it on,” only to stand flat-footed as it was summarily brought…

Who are these guys? These guys who think they can slither out of a snake pit and then lead the snakes. These card sharks forced into a game of Go Fish with their incorrigible nephews. These guys who keep trying to pull a gavel from a stone, except ain’t none of them Arthur.

McCarthy’s original pursuit to become House speaker, less than a year ago, was already a cringe-fest of Brobdingnagian proportions. In vote after vote, he was rejected — 15 votes over a span of four days. Members got more and more cantankerous, and McCarthy, who must have figured that his best shot at victory was to appear self-assured, ended up sweatily smiling through the whole thing. Have you ever seen 10-year-old boys play some variation of a game where they repeatedly twist the skin on each other’s arms and the goal is to laugh bravely and pretend it absolutely does not hurt? It was like that.

You want to tell them to cry “uncle,” but that is how we got into this mess to begin with. A parade of uncles decided they, alone, could fix this. Put them on the ballot, propel them to the dais…

“There has to be a better choice,” another caller harrumphed.

But no — ha-ha — that’s the whole point. There apparently is no better choice. And that is why we are where we are, scrolling through a roster of representatives to determine whether there’s anyone left who possesses the necessary qualities for speakership. At this point, the necessary qualities are not leadership and diplomacy as much as masochism and self-abasement. And even that might not do it…

Props to Rep. Frost!

.@RepMaxwellFrost with the perfect response to House Republican chaos: "We've been fighting to save food stamps, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, this entire year as Republicans have been working to take it away…I'm just letting them pull themselves up by their bootstraps." pic.twitter.com/w4AZQDjVCI

— CAP Action (@CAPAction) October 20, 2023

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War for Ukraine Day 604: What Does a Ceasefire Mean?

by Adam L Silverman|  October 20, 20237:24 pm| 83 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

Art by NEIVANMADE of a Ukrainian painted black and outlined in blood red kneeling in grief with hands covering the face surrounded by the bodies of Ukrainians killed by Russians on a grey background. "Russia Is Committing Genocide Right Now" is across the top center of the image.

(Image by NEIVANMADE)

I want to return to a topic that pops up every so often in regard to Ukraine’s defense against Russia’s genocidal re-invasion, but that is in the news again because of the Israel-Hamas war: ceasfire. Specifically, what does a ceasefire actually mean in reality and practice.

A couple of days ago several hundred congressional staffers, including both Jewish and Muslim staffers, called for the US to impose a ceasefire on on Israel and Hamas. Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez was pressed on this issue on CNN’s Newsnight two days ago as well. That video is below and it should be queued up to play at the beginning of that segment.

I’m not including it to make fun of Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez or use her as a strawwoman, but as you can see in the interview she spends about three minutes trying to externally process an answer. It is not surprising that she was unable to do so. This is not her area of expertise as a legislator. However, I would have expected her staff to have had better prepped her.

A ceasefire is defined as:

A cease-fire is an agreement that regulates the cessation of all military activity for a given length of time in a given area. It may be declared unilaterally, or it may be negotiated between parties to a conflict.

I think the first thing we need to identify is that a lot of people are using ceasefire and armistice interchangeably. From the same source:

The term armistice is sometimes used, although it has a slightly different meaning: an armistice is a military convention, the primary purpose of which is to suspend hostilities over the whole theater of war, usually for an indefinite period of time. An armistice or a cease-fire does not represent an end to hostilities, only a truce (a temporary suspension of hostilities). Furthermore, they do not reflect a juridical end to the state of war.

Regardless of which one is meant, the question, whether for Ukraine or Israel or the Gazans, is what does a ceasefire actually mean in practice. We have discussed several times that a ceasefire or armistice in the Ukraine-Russia war only rewards Putin. It freezes the conflict allowing Russia to maintain control over the parts of Ukraine that it is already illegally occupying while providing it with strategic time to refresh, refit, and rearm. In the case of the Israel-Hamas war it does not really do anything in regard to the fact that Israel is the internationally recognized occupation authority/occupier of the Palestinian territories of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, despite having pulled out of Gaza in 2005.

It would, however, freeze the conflict. And in this case that means that Hamas will sill be holding an officially indeterminate number of Israelis and non-Israelis hostage. I’ve seen reporting from reliable sources that the total number could be between 200 and 400 and that’s not including the corpses of those they killed that they also brought back to Gaza. It also rewards Hamas for the attack. Specifically, it teaches Hamas, and similar violent extremist organizations – what we used to call terrorist groups – both foreign and domestic, that if they undertake a large enough and successful enough operation that they can get away with it because everyone is afraid the response will be so out of proportion that it is better to just stop any response.

This is not a call for Israel to flatten Gaza and bounce the rubble. Rather it is the realization that in war, whether interstate or low intensity, prematurely imposing a ceasefire or armistice may actually be adding further harm and injury to the aggrieved party. This is certainly the case in regard to trying to force a ceasefire onto Ukraine and get them to the negotiating table ASAP. It is also the case in regard to the Israel-Hamas war. Yair Rosenberg asks the right questions in regard to this issue:

https://twitter.com/Yair_Rosenberg/status/1714778631627505990

Ceasefires and armistices sound great in practice. No one of good conscience on either side of any war want civilian populations not party to the conflict to be harmed. But prematurely imposing a ceasefire or armistice simply rewards the initiator of the specific conflict. And yes, the Palestinians have lots of reasons to revolt, but that’s not what the 7 OCT 2023 attack was. This is not the third intifadeh. Rather, it was an attack by Hamas on both military and civilian targets. Just watch this interview of Khaled Mashal, Hamas’s external leader, by an excellent al Arabiya anchor and it will tell you everything you need to know about the attack from Hamas’s perspective:

NEW TV interview with Khaled Mashal, Hamas’s external leader.

Mashal is based in Qatar.

Summary of interview:

Says Hamas’s terrorism is “legitimate resistance”

Says sacrifices have to be made by nations when trying to liberate themselves. Points to 30 million Russians… pic.twitter.com/sOI0XU2O94

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) October 20, 2023

And keep this bit of context in mind: Hamas pumped their fighters up with captagon, an amphetamine type of stimulant, allowed the extremists to carry out their attacks on civilians calmly and indifferently.

The civilians targeted by Hamas are as unjustifiable targets as when the Israelis bulldoze a Palestinians home. And that is why if you’re going to call for a ceasefire or an armistice you have to be able to clearly articulate what it means in practice and application and why it isn’t rewarding one party to the conflict disproportionately to the other in a way that rewards the aggression and teaches others that they too can undertake something like this and get away with it.

President Zelenskyy’s daily address and the English transcript will both be after the jump.

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These days, Russian losses are really impressive, and it is exactly the kind of losses of the occupier that Ukraine needs – address by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy

20 October 2023 – 16:50

I wish you health, fellow Ukrainians!

Today my team and I are in Kherson region, in Mykolaiv. There are a lot of tasks.

A meeting with the military – Commander-in-Chief Zaluzhny, Chief of the General Staff Shaptala, Commander of the Odesa operational-strategic grouping of troops Hnatov and Commander of the Marines Sodol, Head of the State Border Guard Service, General Deyneko. A special format, a narrow circle. Regarding the situation in Kherson and the region, in the south in general, as well as in Donetsk region – first of all, Avdiivka. I am grateful to all our guys who are holding their ground and destroying the occupier day after day. These days, Russian losses are really impressive, and it is exactly the kind of losses of the occupier that Ukraine needs. We also discussed the Kupyansk direction in Kharkiv region.

I held a meeting in Mykolaiv with the leadership of the region and the city, the military, the law enforcers to discuss the protection of the region, our infrastructure, our ports, corridors in the Black Sea. We also analyzed social issues that are important for Mykolaiv and the cities and villages of the region: energy, heat supply, water supply to Mykolaiv and the region, the quality of water supplied to the city, social services, economic activity. All the things that really need attention at all levels of government.

I am especially grateful to Denmark for their effective support of Mykolaiv, for their sincere assistance to the city, just as we agreed with Prime Minister Frederiksen.

I visited our warriors in Mykolaiv hospital who are undergoing treatment after being wounded in battles. I thanked them for their strength and thanked the doctors for their dedication to their work.

An important report by the regional head of the Security Service of Ukraine on the protection of Mykolaiv and the region from subversive activities of Russia and collaborators. Thank you for your work, guys!

Special attention is paid to protecting the sky from Russian bombs and missiles. We are working to bolster air defense. I thank everyone in the world who helps us with this.

In particular, I spoke with Olaf Scholz – regarding air defense as well. We are working together to ensure that Patriots in the hands of Ukrainian warriors can do more – already this winter. I invited Germany to take part in a meeting of advisors on the Peace Formula, which we are preparing for late October. We also discussed the situation in the Middle East with the Chancellor. I thank Olaf that our agreements are being strictly implemented.

President Biden delivered a very important, indeed historic speech. Yesterday we spoke with him – it was a good conversation, and now there is his address – powerful, timely, one that really adds to our confidence. Thank you for your unwavering support for Ukraine. The democratic world understands how important Ukraine’s resilience is for the freedom of all free nations – and not only in Europe. We can overcome all threats.

The speech by President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen the day before is also inspiring. I am grateful to Madam President for her clear call to speed up Ukraine’s path to victory. A call to everyone in Europe and the free world to be as united as possible, as long as it takes to defeat the terrorists who seek to destroy our states and our lives. Europe must prevail, not those who are trying to turn our lives into ruins.

And one more thing.

Today is the 20th anniversary of the intelligence of the Border Guard Service of Ukraine. They are heroic warriors. I had the honor to congratulate them today, to recognize them with state awards. I held a separate meeting with the border guards on the tasks they perform – they perform them effectively. And I am proud that the Border Guard Service of Ukraine and its units are only getting stronger. Glory to all of you, warriors! Glory to our strong nation! And thank you – Kherson, Mykolaiv – for today.

Glory to Ukraine!

I thank @POTUS Joe Biden for his powerful address. Together, we will not allow hatred destroy freedom, and we will not let terrorists destroy democracy.

Ukraine is grateful for all the U.S. support and its unfaltering belief that humanism, freedom, independence, and rules-based…

— Volodymyr Zelenskyy / Володимир Зеленський (@ZelenskyyUa) October 20, 2023

I put this in a comment last night, but it needs to be in the actual post. As I feared and predicted:

Ukrainian forces not receiving these 'tens of thousands' of 155mm shells earmarked for use in Ukraine is not significant in its own right. It does, however, amplify an existing downward trend for 2024 when it comes to stockpiling artillery ammunition for future 🇺🇦operations.

— Franz-Stefan Gady (@HoansSolo) October 20, 2023

Axios‘s Barak Ravid has the details:

The Pentagon plans to send Israel tens of thousands of 155mm artillery shells that had been destined for Ukraine from U.S. emergency stocks several months ago, three Israeli officials with knowledge of the situation tell Axios.

Why it matters: The Israel Defense Forces and the Israeli Ministry of Defense told their U.S. counterparts they urgently need artillery shells to prepare for a ground invasion in Gaza — and a potential escalation of the war by Hezbollah along the Israel-Lebanon border, Israeli officials say.

  • U.S. officials have suggested that diverting the shells from Ukraine to Israel would have no immediate impact on Ukraine’s ability to fight against Russian troops.
  • Less clear is whether U.S. military supplies to Ukraine could be stretched if the Israel-Hamas war becomes a broader regional conflict, but the Pentagon played down such concerns Thursday.
  • “We are confident we can support both Ukraine and Israel in terms of their defensive needs,” Brig. Gen. Patrick Ryder, a Pentagon spokesperson, told reporters.

Flashback: Starting in early 2023, the U.S. began drawing down 155mm artillery shells from its considerable ammunition stockpiles in Israel to send to Ukraine.

  • At the time, the Israeli military told then-Prime Minister Yair Lapid and then-Minister of Defense Benny Gantz that there was no immediate scenario in which Israel would need an emergency supply of shells.
  • That all changed on Oct. 7, Israeli officials said.

Between the lines: The ammunition that had been destined for Ukraine was part of a U.S. weapons stockpile that is kept in Israel as part of an agreement between the countries.

  • Only U.S. military personnel have access to the weapons storage sites. But according to the agreement between the countries, Israel can use the ammunition in a war scenario in short order, with U.S. approval.
  • Israel was granted access to the ammunition during its war with Lebanon in 2006 and also during the 2014 Gaza conflict.

Driving the news: After the Hamas attack on Oct. 7, the IDF conducted an initial assessment of its urgent weapons needs and gave it to the Pentagon.

  • One of the requests was to get tens of thousands of 155mm artillery shells back to fill the depleted U.S. emergency stocks in Israel, in case the Israeli military needed to use the shells on short notice, the Israeli officials said.
  • The Israeli officials said the U.S. agreed and will be sending the artillery shells to Israel in the coming weeks.

Avdiivka:

Avdiivka front. Russian TOS-1 220mm MRLS split into atoms by the FPV drone of the 59th Brigade of Ukraine. 🌞https://t.co/4S7jizLlqB pic.twitter.com/Bh2cAM7m58

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) October 20, 2023

Avdiivka, some more Russian tank losses during ongoing Russian attack attempts.
Previously undocumented Russian losses:
-1xT-80BVM obr.2022
-1xT-72B3M obr.2022
-1xT-72B3M
-1xT-72Bhttps://t.co/AtBy5ENMLUhttps://t.co/ig43QrbIdF pic.twitter.com/Hjjgou7ckV

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) October 20, 2023

It’s like the drone gave the tank the finger at the 5 second mark.

Avdiivka. Repelling another Russian attack attempt. https://t.co/z20ADmEjhB pic.twitter.com/yVoK0ds1t1

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) October 20, 2023

Cluster munition vs Russian infantry https://t.co/ir5jgGpZrc pic.twitter.com/WhclwngiQb

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) October 20, 2023

Top 10 anime betrayals https://t.co/uVlPMrqvIb pic.twitter.com/KFi9gsRrQS

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) October 20, 2023

A quick update from Avdiivka:
"Last night, the [Russians] got so f*cked that they had to pause the offensive.

Since morning and until now we already f*cked 4 of their tanks, and stopped counting BMPs and infantry.

“It’s not yet evening,” said the fighters"

TG: @stas_osman pic.twitter.com/rKRTG4PklX

— WarTranslated (@wartranslated) October 20, 2023

Source: https://t.co/d4LgRPkg6F

— WarTranslated (@wartranslated) October 20, 2023

I don’t know why the tweet above says show more as there isn’t anything else to actually show.

Russian channels continue commenting on Avdiivka with some fascinating levels of doom:

"Judging by the enemy’s video recordings, we have ALREADY lost no less equipment than they did during the entire summer campaign near Rabotino. And if they initially did not intend to hit… pic.twitter.com/YCvJpcGCNL

— WarTranslated (@wartranslated) October 20, 2023

Russian channels continue commenting on Avdiivka with some fascinating levels of doom:

“Judging by the enemy’s video recordings, we have ALREADY lost no less equipment than they did during the entire summer campaign near Rabotino. And if they initially did not intend to hit with all their might, but only imposed local activity all summer, then the plan is quite workable.”

https://t.me/Dead_heads/519

More from Tatarigami on the ATACMS strikes in Berdiansk and Luhansk:

Recently, there has been some debate surrounding the extent of damage to Russian helicopters on Berdians'k and Luhansk airfields, sparked by @GeoConfirmed statement that at least 21 Russian helicopters were either destroyed or damaged.

While their number slightly exceeds our… pic.twitter.com/V8CF22p5Ha

— Tatarigami_UA (@Tatarigami_UA) October 20, 2023

Recently, there has been some debate surrounding the extent of damage to Russian helicopters on Berdians’k and Luhansk airfields, sparked by @GeoConfirmed statement that at least 21 Russian helicopters were either destroyed or damaged.

While their number slightly exceeds our team’s public estimate, it’s important to note that their estimate is based on solid grounds. The challenge arises from the limitations of commercially available imagery, which do not provide the resolution needed to detect hundreds of small scorch marks around helicopters in Berdiansk.

In the case of Luhansk airport, it’s much easier since you can clearly see it from our higher-resolution imagery purchased from Planet Labs.

However, we can independently verify that multiple scorch marks from explosions are clearly visible around Mi-8 helicopters on imagery for non-commercial distribution. Unlike most Ka-52 helicopters, which were burned and destroyed, the Mi-8s likely didn’t carry ammunition that would cause explosions. Consequently, the damage might not be easily visible from the satellite or visible at all.

We opted not to incorporate these helicopters into our report because, while we recognize the possibility of their damage, there are no publicly available means to definitively substantiate it. Nevertheless, it’s worth noting that even based on images from the Russian Telegram channel (link included in the image description), one can observe multiple holes on the affected helicopter, suggesting that many helicopters sustained damage, even if they did not catch fire.

It’s also worth noting that these helicopters are not in flyable condition. To transport them, the Russians had to remove their rotor blades, a process typically done to prepare helicopters for ground transportation. This observation makes the claim of damage highly plausible, which is why GeoConfirmed likely included them and reached a total number of 21

Link to their investigation, which was also based on our materials:

Kherson Oblast:

President Zelenskyi, Commander Zaluzhnyi in Kherson Oblast discussing key questions of the main frontline directions. pic.twitter.com/IO55GSTgjh

— WarTranslated (@wartranslated) October 20, 2023

Lyman direction.

Touch not the cat bot a glove!

Ukrainians showcasing the Swedish version of the Leopard 2 tank in their service (Lyman direction).⁰⁰Source: Radio Liberty https://t.co/Wn9FKP2aLX pic.twitter.com/1755YUVktl

— WarTranslated (@wartranslated) October 20, 2023

Little Odesa:

Spider-Man 2 swings into Little Odessa, flying Ukrainian flags high. Nice 😊 pic.twitter.com/7Vg0XAvUrQ

— Maria Avdeeva (@maria_avdv) October 20, 2023

For those web head aficionados, that’s the Advanced Suit from the 2018 Marvel Spider-Man video game. Excelsior!

Rostov on Don:

Putin visited the Russian army headquarters in Rostov last night and met chief of General Staff Gerasimov. “Other conversations took place with representatives of the senior leadership of the Ministry of Defense,” Kremlin press poll says. https://t.co/vfri7oVlRQ

— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) October 20, 2023

Ukraine is making advances on its judicial reforms despite the war. Reuters has the details:

KYIV, Oct 19 (Reuters) – Vira Levko, a judge in the Ukrainian capital Kyiv, typically handles dozens of administrative cases and several criminal hearings every day. And she says there are others who are far busier than her.

When Levko tells colleagues abroad about her workload, they find it hard to believe.

“They don’t understand how a judge can hold so much information in their head,” she told Reuters at the Dniprovskyi district court.

Ukraine is desperately short of judges, and is kick-starting a long-delayed nationwide hiring spree to fill more than 2,000 vacancies and vet around as many sitting judges for potential malfeasance.

The ambitious effort, undertaken during the country’s war with Russia, is key to clearing a backlog of cases that has delayed justice for many Ukrainians.

It is also central to cementing the rule of law, a condition for Ukraine to one day join the European Union.

Even before Russia’s full-scale invasion in February 2022, President Volodymyr Zelenskiy had signalled his desire for Ukraine to join the EU, meaning that the fight against corruption and embracing good governance became priorities.

A poll released this month by the Razumkov Centre think-tank in Kyiv suggested only 18% of Ukrainians trust the courts, the legacy of a judicial system long eroded by corruption.

The European Commission, in a 2022 memo, said “the judiciary continues to be regarded as one of the least trusted and credible institutions”.

‘CATASTROPHE’

Attempts to reform the courts after the 2014 Maidan Revolution, which toppled a pro-Russian president and set Kyiv on a pro-Western course, were only partly successful and ran into systemic resistance, watchdogs say.

Two judicial governance bodies responsible for hiring and disciplining judges were effectively frozen for years, resulting in some 2,600 vacancies, or roughly one third of the judiciary, as judges retired or were dismissed.

Court cases have piled up across Ukraine as a result. Some courtrooms have been turned into storage spaces stacked high with case files.

The regional appeals court in northeastern Ukraine’s Sumy has only four judges left out of a full staff of 35. It faces total deadlock if just two judges retire, as they currently have the right to do.

“There is not a single court in Ukraine whose workload is normal,” said Ruslan Sydorovych, deputy head of the High Qualification Commission of Judges (HQCJ), which oversees the selection of judges.

“It’s just that in some places it’s big, and in others it’s simply a catastrophe,” he said.

The war adds an additional burden, as around 100,000 alleged Russian crimes are already being investigated.

The two governance bodies were recently relaunched under EU pressure, and around 1,100 appeals and local court vacancies will be filled in the coming months.

Sydorovych described it as the first step in a “super marathon” of hiring that could take several years and likely involve up to 7,000 interviews.

Selecting judges is only part of the challenge. Some 2,000 sitting judges also require integrity checks, part of the judicial house-cleaning launched, but never finished, after Maidan.

Halyna Chyzhyk, who served on a civic advisory council that monitors judges, said the entire process was manageable but that authorities shouldn’t try to rush it.

“If the priority is on (ensuring) quality, then you’ll need to sacrifice a bit of speed, and I think Ukrainian society understands that,” she said.

POLITICAL INDEPENDENCE

Ensuring that Ukraine’s top courts, long plagued by scandal, do not become instruments for wielding political influence could prove an even tougher task.

“We have judges who helped raid billions in property, who massively violated human rights, who hold Russian citizenship and actively helped Russia in the first days of the war,” said Mykhailo Zhernakov, of the DEJURE Foundation, an NGO in Kyiv.

The Constitutional Court, in particular, drew the ire of the EU and democracy campaigners by attempting to dismantle anti-corruption reforms before the war, and its former head is wanted in connection with several criminal cases, including bribing a witness.

Oleksandr Tupytskyi, now living in Vienna according to Ukrainian media reports, has denied wrongdoing and said the cases against him are political.

The EU recommended that Kyiv pass legislation giving international experts greater say over the make-up of the Constitutional Court, which currently has five vacancies.

But that is not an instant fix, said Zhernakov.

According to DEJURE, which tracks judicial reforms, at least two recent Ukrainian appointees to the court’s selection committee were “politically affiliated individuals with questionable reputations”.

“The biggest political difficulty is to build institutions that would be independent enough,” Zhernakov said.

The overhaul of the judiciary coincides with a broader bid to crack down on corruption, as tolerance among Ukrainians for official abuse wears thin at a time when tens of thousands have died defending Ukraine’s fragile democracy.

More at the link.

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Balloon Juice for Virginia: We Did It! Just $1,373 Needed, and Then We’re Done!

by WaterGirl|  October 20, 20234:45 pm| 67 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Political Fundraising, Targeted Political Fundraising 2023-24

We have $100 left on Balloon Juice Angel Match #5, and we have one more Angel Match in waiting.

IF we can match all $600, that means $1k in donations (Angel #5 & #6 together), so we only need $1,373 in donations to reach our final goal of $25,000!

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Martyrdom of St. Matt

by Betty Cracker|  October 20, 20232:35 pm| 169 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity

Matt Gaetz, de facto leader of what the not-quite-as-extreme House Repubs are derisively calling the “Crazy Eight,” i.e., the reps who deposed McCarthy, must really be feeling the heat from colleagues judging from a whiny, self-important offer reported by Nicole Lafond at TPM earlier today:

Just as the vote was gaveled into the record, Gaetz told reporters on the Capitol steps that he and the other seven Republicans who forced this chaos in ousting McCarthy as speaker earlier this month are willing to negotiate with the moderates who can’t stomach Jordan.

The holdouts “have no goals, have no asks, have no objectives, other than to see the eight of us suffer some consequence for having removed McCarthy. So we’ve made them an offer,” he said. “The eight of us have said that we are willing to accept censure, sanction, suspension, removal from the Republican conference, we of course would remain Republicans, we will continue to vote with Republicans on Republican principles, but if what these holdouts need is a pound of our flesh, we’re willing to give it to them in order to see them elect Jim Jordan for speaker.”

Oh, climb down off the cross, drama llama.

As Lafond notes, the reps weren’t voting against Jordan just to spite Gaetz and pals, though no doubt many of them do hate Gaetz’s smarmy guts, joining right-thinking people on this one point if no other. Jordan’s strong-arm tactics and reputation as a Trump-humping, insurrection-facilitating, sexual assault-ignoring turd who would embarrass the party as its turd-face probably had something to do with it too.

The latest: as of the results of a secret ballot this afternoon, Jordan is no longer the speaker-nominee because he lost an up-or-down vote by 112 to 86. So, the humiliation of Jordan is complete.

The House will recess for the weekend, reconvene Monday, and on Tuesday, they’ll hold another vote. It’s unclear for whom. Maybe the bow-tied twerp? The restoration of McCarthy? The revenge of Scalia? Who knows, but it won’t be Matt Gaetz.

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GroundHog Day: Another Day, Another Speaker Vote

by WaterGirl|  October 20, 202310:55 am| 243 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Republican Politics

The MAGA caucus urging Republicans to unite behind them is like a burglar telling you to acknowledge him as the head of your household.

— Jack E. Smith ⚖️ (@7Veritas4) October 20, 2023

The process to get ready to vote for Speaker began at 10 am.  As I write this, it’s 10:40 and there are still 10 House members who haven’t pressed the magic electronic button to say that they are in the House.  Six are Dems, four are Rs.

You can also watch on C-SPAN.

I have it on, but muted, because I can’t bear the faux suspense the C-SPAN lady is trying too drum up about which name will be submitted by each caucus.  The suspense is killing me!

I will put the post up as soon as the actual vote for Speaker starts.

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While we’re waiting, I assume you have all heard that Sydney Powell pled out.  So the Cheeze stands alone!

Personally, I am hoping for a lot more dominoes to fall.  Fingers crossed!

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Okay, it’s “go” time.  All House members (except the one in Israel) have reported as present.  I don’t recall which 20 or so Rs have voted for other, so if someone ditches Gym Jordan for the first time, or votes for Gym Jordan and hand’t last time, I hope those of you with memories for such details chime in!

LIVE speaker vote count on CNN   h/t Scout211

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“Don’t Say Gay” Bill Sponsor Joe Harding (R-FL) Going to Jail

by Betty Cracker|  October 20, 202310:32 am| 38 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Republican Venality

From The Gainesville Sun:

Former Republican state lawmaker Joe Harding of Ocala, the architect of Florida’s controversial law limiting discussions of gender and sexuality in public schools, was sentenced to four months in prison on charges of defrauding the government of $150,000 in pandemic aid.

Judge Allen Winsor sentenced Harding in U.S. District Court in Gainesville on Thursday. Harding’s family and friends wept throughout the proceedings. One spectator wept audibly after his sentence was read.

The post-sentencing weeper should have been crying with joy because Harding got off so light. The original charges carried a penalty of up to 70 years in jail, and when Harding reached a plea deal, he only managed to cut that risk in half, according to The Sun.

Harding’s brother, Pastor Daniel Harding, told the judge that his brother was a committed family man and pious Christian who taught kids softball instead of advancing his business interests.

“I ask for mercy,” he said.

And mercy Joe Harding received from Trump-appointed Judge Winsor! Got to get that man back to teaching Sunday School, I guess.

One Tallahassee consultant testified (as a LOW character witness, apparently) that Harding quit the statehouse and paid back the funds he stole instead of fighting the charges and framing it as a political prosecution as he was advised. THAT is what counts as virtue these days in the FL GOP.

Harding was allegedly inspired to defraud taxpayers of $150K by a corrupt brother-in-law who was later busted for stealing nearly $8 million. The BIL got 5 years in the slammer.

Winsor sympathetically referenced the BIL’s malign influence on Harding during the sentencing, noting that Harding probably wouldn’t have stole taxpayer money that was meant to help struggling businesses if Harding “had a different brother-in-law.” Well, even if Harding was too dumb to think of the crime independently, that’s hardly a factor in his favor.

I think our criminal justice system is far too punitive most of the time, so maybe I shouldn’t be annoyed by the four month sentence. But knowing how hard the law comes down on ordinary people, it pisses me off when these douchebag Repubs get off so lightly.

Maybe sentencing guidelines should be developed based on the punishment god-bothering white male Repubs get from Trump-appointed judges? That could be one positive thing to come out of Trump flooding the judiciary with far-right hacks.

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TGIFriday Morning Open Thread: Thank Goddess for Democrats

by Anne Laurie|  October 20, 20238:13 am| 136 Comments

This post is in: Biden Administration in Action, C.R.E.A.M., NANCY SMASH!, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

Nothing less is at stake in this election than our Democracy — and all that we care about and all that we believe in.

We don’t agonize, we organize. And when necessary, we unionize to get the job done! -NP pic.twitter.com/e7SVcTGtpp

— Nancy Pelosi (@TeamPelosi) October 19, 2023

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We cannot and will not let terrorists like Hamas and tyrants like Putin win.

I refuse to let that happen. pic.twitter.com/Ywjviuw3gF

— President Biden (@POTUS) October 20, 2023

Bidenomics!

Curious how “Biden” ends up in the first headline but is conspicuously absent from the second! https://t.co/a7qh7ptCXU

— TJ Ducklo (@TDucklo) October 18, 2023

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one more in long list of data points demonstrating that Americans’ poll responses about the economy are mostly not about the economy

they’re about other sources of anxiety/concern/worry in our national life https://t.co/e5IwwHUZIr

— John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) October 18, 2023

Things are far better in America than is understood, part a million.

Inflation adjusted median net worth jumps 37% over past several years, more than doubles for young people. https://t.co/YDleFplXAh

— Simon Rosenberg (@SimonWDC) October 19, 2023

*snickers*

After just two days, the Biden campaign already has more followers than the Trump campaign on Truth Social pic.twitter.com/I6oafmDcwb

— Parker Butler (@parkerpbutler) October 18, 2023

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