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… gradually, and then suddenly.

Speaking of republicans, is there a way for a political party to declare intellectual bankruptcy?

Hi god, it’s us. Thanks a heap, you’re having a great week and it’s only Thursday!

Stand up, dammit!

75% of people clapping liked the show!

Take hopelessness and turn it into resilience.

Trump’s cabinet: like a magic 8 ball that only gives wrong answers.

The willow is too close to the house.

With all due respect and assumptions of good faith, please fuck off into the sun.

“In the future, this lab will be a museum. do not touch it.”

We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. keep building.

I would gladly pay you tuesday for a hamburger today.

A democracy can’t function when people can’t distinguish facts from lies.

The snowflake in chief appeared visibly frustrated when questioned by a reporter about egg prices.

Impressively dumb. Congratulations.

if you can’t see it, then you are useless in the fight to stop it.

Hell hath no fury like a farmer bankrupted.

If ‘weird’ was the finish line, they ran through the tape and kept running.

Many life forms that would benefit from greater intelligence, sadly, do not have it.

The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

I don’t recall signing up for living in a dystopian sci-fi novel.

Mediocre white men think RFK Jr’s pathetic midlife crisis is inspirational. The bar is set so low for them, it’s subterranean.

Shut up, hissy kitty!

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Friday Morning Open Thread: Retribution?

by Anne Laurie|  August 25, 20238:14 am| 259 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Friday Morning Open Thread:  Retribution, At Last

(John Deering via GoComics.com)

 

The former president being arrested is a complex emotional event for any American. Luckily, we have multiple opportunities to process it.

— Olivia Nuzzi (@Olivianuzzi) August 25, 2023

TRUMP MUGSHOT JUST DROPPED #TrumpMugshot pic.twitter.com/vnbhxA8Amh

— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) August 25, 2023

Sharing is caring…

It's a pretty simple choice, folks. #BidenHarris2024 pic.twitter.com/QVzHWz92uo

— Chris D. Jackson (@ChrisDJackson) August 25, 2023

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I don't think impeachment hearings over Hunter Biden is going to change the fact that this race is now Joe Biden versus Inmate P01135089.

— Not up for trouble, please stop asking (@agraybee) August 25, 2023

the thing about the Georgia mugshots is that it is bad and unnecessary to humiliate most criminals and it is good and necessary to humiliate criminals who can't be restrained by prison but can be restrained by disgrace

— sheikh zubeyr, author of al-easifatan (@revhowardarson) August 24, 2023

bad things which happen to Donald Trump are good because he is beyond the conventional capacities of the state to discipline

— sheikh zubeyr, author of al-easifatan (@revhowardarson) August 25, 2023

we need to ruin his life using any means which are plausibly legitimate, including means we would never use against anyone else, because he is personally roughly as powerful as the American legal system taken as a wholehttps://t.co/p04ff3O4FQ

— sheikh zubeyr, author of al-easifatan (@revhowardarson) August 25, 2023

Because I needed a laugh. pic.twitter.com/rCgB4wedPB

— Rep. Gloria Johnson (@VoteGloriaJ) August 25, 2023

One indictment to rule them all.

One prosecutor to find them.

One indictment to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them. pic.twitter.com/IdROUSbssB

— I Smoked Elon's Ketamine (@BlackKnight10k) August 25, 2023

“So disgusting to see so many people on here celebrating a suicide. Self harm hurts countless thousands and should never be cheered.” – Public defender Twitter when Hitler killed himself

— Gas Stove Prayer Warrior (@canderaid) August 25, 2023

Kamala warned us. https://t.co/AHZlTeTfLY

— Kaivan Shroff (@KaivanShroff) August 25, 2023

you’ve heard him in the last few years, sure, but you haven’t seen much video. and high definition will not be kind to that vain sack of bile

— post malone ergo propter malone (@PropterMalone) August 24, 2023

It’s not persecution, it’s not revenge, it’s not retribution.
It’s holding a person accountable for their alleged crimes. The process of Justice is now in motion. pic.twitter.com/5rncDJQfI5

— Michael F Ozaki MD (@brontyman) August 24, 2023

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Maui Post-Fire Updates Open Thread

by Anne Laurie|  August 25, 20237:05 am| 30 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Show Us on the Doll Where the Invisible Hand Touched You

Maui update. South Maui resorts (Lahaina is West Maui) NEED visitors. Furloughs and layoffs starting because people think the whole island is closed. It is not. If you are planning a trip to Wailea or Kihei, don’t cancel. If you want to come to Hawaii pls consider South Maui.

— Brian Schatz (@brianschatz) August 24, 2023

When my Administration says we'll be with Maui for as long as recovery takes, we mean it. pic.twitter.com/13dyrtI8VB

— President Biden (@POTUS) August 23, 2023

FYI: Maui is open to visitors & workers & small businesses need you to come. West Maui is closed to visitors through Oct. 17 but as @GovJoshGreenMD notes, the rest of Maui is safe.https://t.co/pmanqw8Km0

— HawaiiDelilah™ ?? #MauiStrong (@HawaiiDelilah) August 25, 2023

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Hawaii Gov. Josh Green has basically declared YIMBY martial law. His emergency order suspends local zoning, environmental review, and more, and sets up a special working group to give expedited approval to individual housing projects https://t.co/3MJ4bKQCy5

— Christian Britschgi (@christianbrits) August 23, 2023

BREAKING: Maui County sued Hawaiian Electric Company over the fires that devastated Lahaina and killed at least 115 people, saying the utility negligently failed to shut off power despite exceptionally high winds and dry conditions. https://t.co/pz6qHcwoBG

— The Associated Press (@AP) August 24, 2023

Maui has disclosed a verified list, assembled by the FBI, of 388 individuals that have not located following the Lahaina fire. Maui Police is seeking assistance from the public to identify people on the list who are known to be safe.https://t.co/65mPubLsEB

— HawaiiDelilah™ ?? #MauiStrong (@HawaiiDelilah) August 25, 2023

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Looks Like We Need Another Open Thread

by TaMara|  August 24, 202310:33 pm| 157 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Trump Crime Cartel, Lock Him Up...Lock Them All Up

https://twitter.com/ProtectGlendale/status/1694872974359507256?s=20

Joy Reid had an excellent monologue on Trump and the Central Park 5 tonight and if I can find it, I’ll add it to this post.

In other news, I made a quick and easy frozen limeade pie: thawed limeade concentrate, sweetened condensed milk, whipped cream and 2 graham cracker crusts. Beat the limeade and condensed milk together, fold in whipped cream and pour into pie crusts. Freeze overnight.  You’re welcome.

I’m going to get the critters ready for bed and do a bit of work, since I wasted a ridiculous amount of time on the orange one’s arrest.

Open thread which I expect will be full of mocking this asshole and bemoaning of the GOP and its sycophants.

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Thursday Evening Open Thread: TFG Went Down to Georgia

by Anne Laurie|  August 24, 20238:01 pm| 292 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Republican Venality, Trump Indictments

Thursday Evening Open Thread:  TFG Went Down to Georgia

(John Deering via GoComics.com)

 

Why on earth do we have such a large motorcade for a twice impeached, four time indicted criminal private citizen? Wtf is this? #TrumpArraignment #TrumpMugShot pic.twitter.com/BdIhJ0niRL

— WTFUSA😒 (@dudeonthebay) August 24, 2023

Hundreds of crows just flew overhead in the direction of Fulton County.

That's not weirdly Stephen King is it? pic.twitter.com/oplJbItAgu

— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) August 24, 2023

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Trump probably thinks about this way pic.twitter.com/FjLDPu2Uqh

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) August 24, 2023

Thursday Evening Open Thread:  TFG Went Down to Georgia 2

(Jack Ohman via GoComics.com)

 

This is Joel from Woodstock, a former Republican who came to the Fulton County Jail this morning to deliver a message:

“I want to see the sociopath who tried to steal my vote in 2020 go to prison.” pic.twitter.com/B3auIp72Ug

— Greg Bluestein (@bluestein) August 24, 2023

Point: Even if he could afford it, Trump never wants to invest his own money in his crimes or his legal defense. He always expects someone else to foot the bill.

— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha) August 24, 2023

…And now he has to pay for his crime! #TrumpArraignment #LockHimUp pic.twitter.com/0By3h3DSah

— “Veteran Cosmic Rocker”➖✌🏼💫🎸 ☮️🌎✨🇲🇽🇺🇸 (@betosando) August 24, 2023

Thursday Evening Open Thread:  TFG Went Down to Georgia 1

(Nick Anderson via GoComics.com)

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War for Ukraine Day 547: Ukrainian Independence Day

by Adam L Silverman|  August 24, 20236:36 pm| 48 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

Today was another very long day, so I’m going to try to keep this brief.

Today is Ukrainian Independence Day.

Here is President Zelenskyi’s Ukrainian Independence Day. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

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Congratulations by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Independence Day of Ukraine

24 August 2023 – 09:01

The great people of the great Ukraine, celebrating today a great day – Independence Day! A holiday of free people. A holiday of strong people. A holiday of people with dignity. A holiday of equals. Ukrainian men and women. All of them. In our entire country.

Today we celebrate the 32nd anniversary of our independence – the independence of Ukraine. This is a value for each of us. And this is what we are fighting for. And everyone is important in this fight. Because this is a fight for something that is important to everyone. An independent Ukraine.

In a big war, there are no small deeds. No unnecessary ones. No unimportant ones. This is true of people, deeds, and words.

When we celebrate Ukraine’s independence, everyone can feel a part of it. Everyone can ask themselves: where are you in Ukrainian independence? What did you add to independence? And what did you do to help independence? And today I want to dedicate these congratulations to you. To you, who is giving Ukraine its independence.

To you, warrior! You stood up to defend Ukraine. I thank every soldier and sailor, every sergeant and petty officer, every officer, every general.

To you, the father of a Ukrainian warrior, and to you, the mother of a Ukrainian defender. To all Ukrainian families who have raised their children to love Ukraine and have the courage to defend it with all their might.

I am grateful to everyone who is waiting for their loved ones from the frontline, to everyone who prays for them every day, who calls or texts such an important “How are you?” to hear the much desired “Everything is fine!”. Such a precious “I love you”… “Our son took his first step yesterday”… “Daughter today said: “Dad”… Every word is important. And everyone who makes sure that this word can be said and heard is important. Who provides communication in the country. Connection between people. And this is more than just communication. It is a connection with life. Words of support. Words of gratitude. And, unfortunately, the words that are the most painful in war: “He is gone…”
Many Ukrainians lost loved ones because of the war. Heroes who prevented us from losing Ukraine. I thank and bow to each and every one of them.

Last week I visited our combat brigades. Command posts, brigade positions. And there is something that unites them all.

One additional unique armor helps our warriors. The armor of humanity. The armor of sincerity. These are children’s drawings. You can see them in every brigade. On the walls, in the rooms. Drawings for a father or brother. Or for soldiers whom the children may not know, but whom they support. Because they are Ukrainian soldiers. And for them, this is the main goal of the offensive, where every step forward is so important, but every step back is so impossible. Because it is you, our children, who are behind them. Ukrainian children, exactly you, those who are creating these drawings. And I want to say to you – to every boy and girl: you have no idea how important it is when you support our warriors. I thank you!

I am grateful to every Ukrainian mother for whom our country is and will remain home. Despite the fact that they had to leave because of the war. And when a mother in any country gives her child a book in Ukrainian so that the child does not lose himself or herself, when a mother teaches Ukrainian, when she worries about Ukraine and waits for news from Ukraine, waits to be able to return, this is the most important thing. Because you are important. All Ukrainians! No matter where you happen to be now.

I want to thank all Ukrainian teachers who are working, who managed to work even online. Who are building an educated future even where the enemy has destroyed schools. And everyone who performs miracles in real life. Thousands of Ukrainian medics who save thousands of lives. Ukrainian doctors. Nurses. Combat medics. Those who do not let go of life 24/7 and fight for it. Regardless of whether there is an air raid alert. Regardless of whether there is a “hit”. Regardless of whether you are at the front or in civilian life… Thank you!

Dear Ukrainian people!

Last winter, we experienced massive missile attacks and the threat of blackout. There were different moments. When cities remained in darkness. When it was cold. There was also indomitability. And when our people worked and turned the power back on, there were loud “Glory to Ukraine!”, “Glory to Ukrainian electricians!”, and glasses were raised to air defense and our power engineers. And this is absolutely true. Our power engineers worked around the clock. During air raids. Sometimes under fire. Always in danger. Always knowing how much people are waiting for electricity in hospitals and defense enterprises. And how much every family is waiting for light and warmth.

But, unfortunately, there are families who have lost their father, son, brother… An ordinary electrician, repairman, rescuer, police officer, firefighter… All those who died in the line of duty. Those who helped to do the most important thing – to prevent the Russian darkness from breaking us, our state, our freedom, our independence.

In light and in darkness, our news was with us. Our Ukrainian journalists. The truth was with us. And the world heard Ukraine. I thank everyone who spreads the truth about Ukraine and this war in different languages. But today I want to speak separately about those who cannot yet be mentioned in the news, whose names are known to few, but whose work is visible to all. Our missiles. Ukrainian munitions. Our artillery. Ukrainian drones: Leleka, Fury. Naval drones, Neptune, Corsar, Stugna. We produce all of this. Ukrainians produce all of this. And when we are proud to have sunk the flagship of the enemy fleet, Moskva cruiser, when we rejoice at hitting the Kerch Bridge, we also thank those who cannot be mentioned now, whose names cannot be told, but about whom books will be written and movies will definitely be made in the future. Those whom I award with classified decrees and who carry out the most difficult operations. Thank you! You are all important!

So is everyone who has no right to make a mistake. Who demines our territories – our cities and villages, our fields. Who sows fields despite the shelling. Who harvests the crops despite the shelling. Who delivers it across the country so that we have bread. Who, despite the danger, transports Ukrainian grain by rail, road, and sea to many other countries so that there is no hunger in the world.

Everyone who works and employs others is important. Everyone who pays taxes, which provide for the army, defense, advancement and future victory. Everyone who organizes fundraising campaigns and keeps the fire of volunteering, this sincere Ukrainian unity alive. Everyone who finds and brings everything that is needed in the trenches. Everyone who trains our warriors. Who glorifies Ukraine with sporting victories. Who opened the doors of their homes and sheltered those who lost their homes. Thank you!

Those who give birth to motivating lyrics for Ukrainians, arrange them to beautiful music, and perform these songs for the warriors at the front, for the wounded in hospitals, and at charity concerts around the world. In the world that is fighting side by side with us. With Ukraine.

Everyone who survived the occupation is important. Who was holding the Ukrainian flag in the squares. Those who are still under occupation, but keep our flag so that the occupier cannot find it. Those who have waited and will witness the return of Ukraine. Who was wounded, who lost limbs, but did not lose themselves. And most importantly, we all did not lose you. Those who survived captivity. Those who were deprived of their freedom, but not their will. Who did not lose Ukraine in themselves. Those who came back and continue to fight. And those who will return. They will.

All those who have proved that everyone is needed, everyone is important – people, deeds, and words. Because we all made it so that when one person says: “Glory to Ukraine!”, the whole world responds: “Glory to the Heroes!”

Happy Independence Day, Ukraine!

Glory to Ukraine!

Quick question for our Ukrainian speakers: given that the standard transliteration should be Zelenskyi with an i at the end, do any of you have any idea why the English language version of the President of Ukraine’s website transliterates it with two ys at the end? Also, which way should I be transliterating it. Thanks!

Today, Ukraine is celebrating Independence Day, the most important day of the year for all Ukrainians. Now more than ever we recognize that Ukraine's independence is the inevitable outcome of the struggle of many generations who fought for our freedom. And in our time, the duty… pic.twitter.com/d5oxWEPvJP

— Oleksii Reznikov (@oleksiireznikov) August 24, 2023

Today, Ukraine is celebrating Independence Day, the most important day of the year for all Ukrainians. Now more than ever we recognize that Ukraine’s independence is the inevitable outcome of the struggle of many generations who fought for our freedom. And in our time, the duty has fallen on us to protect that freedom. However difficult our struggle may be, we are unequivocal in our conviction that our freedom can never be taken from us, for it is deeply rooted in our history, tradition, and in the sacrifices of those who came before us.
Today, the whole civilized world is helping to safeguard our independence. Let us proclaim together –
Glory to Ukraine!
Glory to the Heroes!

The Ukrainian MOD has posted a thank you video on its Twitter feed for each country that has provided it support in its defense against Russia’s genocidal re-invasion. There are over 20 of them and I’m not going to pick and chose favorites to post as they’re all great. Click across and scroll down to see them all.

pic.twitter.com/OTp0BGlJGi

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) August 23, 2023

"Happy Ukrainian Independence Day!"
Lieutenant General Mykola Oleshchuk. pic.twitter.com/CCUmClvJsy

— Ukrainian Air Force (@KpsZSU) August 24, 2023

Країна нескорених, непохитних, незламних!
Країна гордих, героїчних та хоробрих.
Де свобода і гідність завжди були ключовими цінностями.
Вільна країна.
Це факти, об які розіб'ються ворожі задуми.
З Днем Незалежності, Україно!🇺🇦

Головнокомандувач ЗС України / @CinC_AFU pic.twitter.com/0XdNBJTsS9

— Генеральний штаб ЗСУ (@GeneralStaffUA) August 24, 2023

Here is the machine translation of General Zaluzhnyi’s tweet:

The country of the unconquered, adamant, indomitable!
The country of the proud, heroic and brave.
Where freedom and dignity have always been key values.
A free country.
These are the facts about which the enemy’s ideas will be shattered.
Happy Independence Day, Ukraine! 🇺🇦

Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine /@CinC_AFU

Well, people… HAPPY UKRAINIAN INDEPENDENCE DAY! 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
The second great day for freedom they said would never happen… yet, here we are, a nation as strong and united as never before, mourning our dead, being proud of our victories, and full of hope.
We carry on.
P.S. Putin is… pic.twitter.com/ex6NSdLmD3

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) August 24, 2023

Well, people… HAPPY UKRAINIAN INDEPENDENCE DAY! 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
The second great day for freedom they said would never happen… yet, here we are, a nation as strong and united as never before, mourning our dead, being proud of our victories, and full of hope.
We carry on.
P.S. Putin is a dickhead.

Today is Ukraine's Independence Day, a freedom affirmed through sacrifice and hardship. I appreciate everyone's support for Ukraine.

I'd also like to thank those who donate for imagery. Your assistance enables forthcoming analysis of another vehicle storage facility in russia. pic.twitter.com/yUExb659py

— Tatarigami_UA (@Tatarigami_UA) August 24, 2023

The Tarkhankut Peninsula of the Crimean coast:

Ukrainian GUR says it carried out a special operation – an amphibious landing, in the Tarkhankut peninsula of Crimea, where it destroyed several occupiers, as well as the S-400 air defence system. Russian officials tried to say the boats were destroyed, but independent sources… pic.twitter.com/YzuD1iiSE1

— WarTranslated (@wartranslated) August 24, 2023

Ukrainian GUR says it carried out a special operation – an amphibious landing, in the Tarkhankut peninsula of Crimea, where it destroyed several occupiers, as well as the S-400 air defence system. Russian officials tried to say the boats were destroyed, but independent sources are saying they all managed to get away.

Military intel confirms successful mission in Crimea: special units landed near Olenivka and Mayak without casualties. Enemy suffered losses in manpower and military vehicles. pic.twitter.com/AmZS3dXv9M

— Maria Avdeeva (@maria_avdv) August 24, 2023

Ukrainian special operations forces just near the Crimean coastline.
Russian defenses in the occupied peninsula are as weak as never before. pic.twitter.com/IYgHF4xzwc

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) August 24, 2023

Dnipro:

The russian ministry of defense has reported another successful missile strike on the Ukrainian "decision-making point."

If the russian ministry of defense truly believes that strategic decisions in Ukraine are made at the cash registers of the city of Dnipro's bus station or… pic.twitter.com/wtNSEBymzE

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) August 24, 2023

The russian ministry of defense has reported another successful missile strike on the Ukrainian “decision-making point.”

If the russian ministry of defense truly believes that strategic decisions in Ukraine are made at the cash registers of the city of Dnipro’s bus station or while waiting in line at local fast-food restaurants, it is quite understandable why the “special military operation” has not concluded in either 3 days or one and a half years.

That’s enough for tonight.

Your daily Patron:

Happy Independence Day in Ukraine🇺🇦❤️
Thank you for the gifts, our foreign partners 🙌🏻 pic.twitter.com/IQqge9neUS

— Patron (@PatronDsns) August 24, 2023

And a new video for Ukrainian Independence Day from Patron’s official TikTok:

@patron__dsns

З Днем Незалежності, рідна❤️

♬ оригінальний звук – Вікторія Деркач

The machine translation of the caption is:

Happy Independence Day, my dear ❤️

Open thread!

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It Appears That the 10/23 Date Fani Proposed Was Only Accepted for Cheese-Bro

by WaterGirl|  August 24, 20235:05 pm| 213 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1694804986780164410?s=20

Can someone explain who Judge McAfee is and what reason a judge would have for not accepting a trial date from a prosecutor?

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Trump Arrest Watch (Open Thread)

by Betty Cracker|  August 24, 20231:19 pm| 318 Comments

This post is in: Criminal Justice, Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity, Trump Crime Cartel

I’ve been following updates on the coup plotters’ surrenders at the Atlanta Journal-Constitution while awaiting the arrest of the kingpin himself this afternoon. There are pro-Trump protests, but they sound pretty low energy. Here’s a screen grab from AJC reporter Zachary Hansen’s Twitter feed:

Trump Arrest Watch (Open Thread)

This was taken a couple of hours after the planned start of the protest. Tens showed up! Also according to the AJC, co-conspirators Mark Meadows and Trevian Kutti surrendered and were granted bonds of $100K and $75K respectively.

I don’t often say this, but I say it sincerely now: It’s a great day for America!

Open thread!

ETA: Here’s AJC’s YouTube livestream of the event:

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