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How Republicans Messed Up on Project 2025 (Paul Krugman)

by WaterGirl|  October 31, 202512:18 pm| 150 Comments

This post is in: Breathtaking Corruption, Breathtaking Criminality and Lawlessness, Open Threads

How Republicans messed up on Project 2025 (Paul Krugman) 1

Their hate, their greed, their short-sightedness – and the law of unintended consequences – will be their undoing.

(The line above is my opinion.  The rest of this is Paul Krugman.)

Federal funding for SNAP, the nutritional aid program still often referred to as food stamps, ends tonight. This will have catastrophic impacts on 42 million Americans, the great majority of them children, elderly or disabled.

Millions more Americans are about to discover that health insurance has become vastly more expensive, in many cases unaffordable.
Why are these terrible things happening? At a basic level they’re happening because Republicans want them to happen. Drastic cuts in food stamps and health care programs were central planks in Project 2025, which is indeed the Trump administration’s policy platform, and were written into legislation in the One Big Beautiful Bill Act that passed last summer.

But the consequences of these cruel intentions weren’t supposed to be this obvious, this early. The harshest provisions of the OBBBA were backloaded, set to kick in after the midterm elections. For example, draconian work requirements for Medicaid — which would effectively throw millions off the program, largely by imposing paperwork burdens low-wage workers can’t overcome — weren’t scheduled to take effect until the end of 2026.

Why the backloading? Presumably Republicans believed that by the time Americans woke up to what was happening, the G.O.P. would have effectively consolidated one-party rule, making future elections irrelevant.

Instead, however, the mask is being ripped off right now, well ahead of schedule.

I guess it’s possible that Republicans will manage to limit the political damage by claiming — completely falsely — that the suffering about to hit millions is being caused by Democrats who want to lavish benefits on illegal immigrants and pay for sex change operations. That’s not hyperbole. Here’s the banner currently at the top of the Agriculture Department’s SNAP data page — its data page!

In the past it would have been unthinkable to display political propaganda, let alone grotesquely dishonest propaganda, on government data sites. But we’re in a new world.

We’ll just have to see how all this plays politically. But it’s clear that Republicans messed up badly on the implementation of Project 2025. Immense cruelty was always part of the plan, but policy wasn’t supposed to get this cruel, this soon.

So what went wrong? I’d attribute it to a combination of policy ignorance, visceral hatred of doing anything that helps people in need, and the Epstein files. (Seriously.)

Read the whole thing.   It’s really very good.

 

How Republicans Messed Up on Project 2025 (Paul Krugman)Post + Comments (150)

TGIFriday Morning Open Thread

by Anne Laurie|  October 31, 20255:46 am| 249 Comments

This post is in: GOP Death Cult, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Space, World's Best Healthcare (If You Can Afford It)

The International Space Station is marking 25 years of nonstop human presence in orbit. Nearly 300 people have lived aboard the scientific outpost.

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— The Associated Press (@apnews.com) October 30, 2025 at 1:00 PM

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You don't hear so much anymore that Democrats should have demanded more, or different things, because the Democratic messaging ("Americans need affordable Healthcare") is good and genuine and working, despite GOP and media efforts against it.

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— ike, son of mike (@i-bresnick.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 3:19 PM

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NEW: "If this all sounds vaguely familiar, that’s because it is. Republicans have been trying to repeal the Affordable Care Act law since the day former President Barack Obama signed it….But every single time, the conversation leads to the same place: What do Republicans propose to do instead?"

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— Adam Keiper (@adamkeiper.com) October 28, 2025 at 8:31 PM

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Everyone who claimed Dems would cave to prevent a shutdown OR that they’d cave shortly after that to keep the shutdown brief OR that they were stupid to make the ACA tax credits the flagship issue can apologize any minute now.

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— Charles Ghoul-ba ?? (@charlesgaba.com) October 28, 2025 at 11:23 PM

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For the third time this week, the Senate passed my legislation to reject Trump’s senseless tariffs that raise costs for consumers, create chaos for businesses, and weaken our economy. Now it’s the House’s turn to undo the biggest tax increase in a generation.

— Senator Tim Kaine (@kaine.senate.gov) October 30, 2025 at 4:09 PM

The problem with Politico laundering republican talking points is that it makes it easy for Dems to get their dunks in.

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— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 2:07 PM

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Here Trump takes his entire theory of governance to its logical conclusion by demanding Democrats improve the parts of government he keeps trying to destroy

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— Chatham Harrison dba TRUMP DELENDUS EST (@chathamharrison.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 9:13 PM

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Immediately, six months, next quarter, next year.
lmao

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— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 11:40 AM

Believe me, this shit while the president is building ballrooms and giving 40b to Argentina does break through.

— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 11:40 AM

TGIFriday Morning Open ThreadPost + Comments (249)

War for Ukraine Day 1,344: Another Deadly Night/Early Morning, Another Russian Butcher’s Bill

by Adam L Silverman|  October 30, 20258:45 pm| 15 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

A black and white cartoon with Popeye the Sailor Man facing forward and to the left. His word bubble says "I Yam Disgustipated"

The cost:

This is Diana. She was only 7. Russia murdered her today 🕯

Despite the doctors’ efforts, they could not save her. Diana was brought to the hospital with severe facial injuries. Her heart stopped multiple times during resuscitation, and at 11:15, doctors pronounced her dead.

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 10:14 AM

Here’s what Russia threw at Ukraine last night:

Looks like last evening’s warning of a big attack by fascist Russia on Ukraine may have been correct: as well as Shahed attack drone launches, ballistic missiles were fired, and now Kalibr cruise missiles are incoming. 7 Tu-95 bombers also in Russian airspace, could attack also.

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— Euan MacDonald (@euanmacdonald.bsky.social) October 29, 2025 at 10:37 PM

Last night, Russia struck Ukraine with over 650 drones and 50 missiles of different types – Zelenskyy

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 6:45 AM

We’ll get to all of it after the jump.

Here is President Zelenskyy’s address from earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

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There Are Initial Details on the Impact of U.S. and European Sanctions Against Russian Oil Companies, and It Is Quite Tangible – Address by the President

30 October 2025 – 19:30

Fellow Ukrainians!

Today, our energy workers have been working throughout the day – from Zaporizhzhia and the Mykolaiv region to the Ivano-Frankivsk and Vinnytsia regions – following the Russian strike. Unfortunately, there were hits, and the target was the energy infrastructure. We are doing everything possible to restore it and are adding reserves. I want to thank every repair crew, all utility services involved, energy companies, and the State Emergency Service of Ukraine – this is truly a nationwide effort. Everywhere the Russians have destroyed, Ukrainians are rebuilding. It is important that every community devote maximum attention and resources to this. The strike was complex – a combined, deliberately calculated one, designed to make it difficult to counter. There were missiles as well, including ballistic and air-launched ballistic types. In total, 52 missiles and more than six hundred strike drones were launched, around four hundred of them “shaheds.” Most of the drones were neutralized, and two-thirds of the missiles were also shot down. Ukraine’s air defense is saving a significant part of our infrastructure, and this remains the top priority – air defense systems and missiles for them. We are working on this every day. And also our long-range capabilities – our entirely justified responses to what Russia is doing against Ukraine and our people. A few hours ago there was a strike on the Slovyansk Thermal Power Plant – a strike with Russian bombs. Sadly, two people were killed. My condolences. There are also wounded. This is outright terror. Normal people don’t wage war like this, and the world must respond appropriately to such Russian warfare. It is very important that we have specific agreements with Norway precisely in the field of energy – support for our gas purchases. We also have agreements with Germany, Italy, and the Netherlands, and we are working with them on equipment for electricity generation. We are counting on the support of the European Commission as well. Today, the Minister of Energy of Ukraine is having a meeting with representatives of the Group of Seven – the G7 energy ministers – countries that certainly can and will support Ukraine. We are ensuring such cooperation with them. The Head of Ukraine’s Foreign Intelligence Service presented a report today. There are initial details on the impact of U.S. and European sanctions against Russian oil companies, and it is quite tangible. Oil exports are the foundation of Russia’s arrogance, and if sanctions are maintained and strengthened, Russia will suffer significant losses. They could amount to at least 50 billion dollars next year, which is a strong argument for Russia to develop a motive to end this war. We will continue creating more such arguments. Ukraine is already in contact with the European Union regarding the twentieth sanctions package – we are submitting our proposals. We are also engaging with the American side. We count on key states to maintain this course of action. We already see that there will be a reduction in imports of Russian oil by India and China, and it is important to ensure that there are no sanctions loopholes through third countries. A reduction in Russian oil means a reduction in Russia’s war, and there must be no exceptions to this – for anyone, including Hungary. The Russians are already considering how to sell off their enterprises, particularly in Europe, as these will no longer be able to operate. Of course, there were many military reports today – primarily concerning the Pokrovsk sector, the Donetsk region in general, and the areas bordering the Dnipro region. We are destroying the occupier with all our might. I want to thank every soldier, every sergeant, and every officer who is fighting for Ukraine and securing the results Ukraine needs despite everything. We are defending our positions; we are defending our state.

Glory to Ukraine!

Georgia:

“Until the end!”

Rustaveli Avenue is blocked for the 337th day in a row.

Dozens of activists have already been arrested for blocking the road. Repeated ‘offenses’ mean up to two years in jail. #GeorgiaProtests

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— Rusudan Djakeli (@rusudandjakeli.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 1:32 PM

“No justice, no peace!”

Day 337 of uninterrupted, nationwide protests in Georgia, where peaceful protests are now criminalized, hundreds are arrested, and opposition parties are banned. 🇬🇪

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— Rusudan Djakeli (@rusudandjakeli.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 1:39 PM

Georgian protesters are singing the EU anthem with Georgian lyrics. 🇪🇺🇬🇪

This is day 337 of uninterrupted, nationwide protests. Rustaveli Avenue is blocked at great personal risk. Dozens have been arrested for “blocking the road”; repeat “offenses” carry up to 2 years in jail.

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— Rusudan Djakeli (@rusudandjakeli.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 1:51 PM

Due to his active involvement in #GeorgiaProtests, Archimandrite Dorote Kurashvili was stripped of his leadership position at the Kvemo Betlemi Church in Tbilisi.

He stated that from now on, his preaching podium will be the Rustaveli Avenu, the location of the daily protests.

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 8:50 AM

Things change fast, but as of today, seems like 🇬🇪ns persist in closing road (the unyielding symbol of protests) & the regime seems incapable of jailing many more.

We might be on the verge of ridiculing their imprisonment law very soon. Fingers crossed.

#GeorgiaProtests Day 337

📷 Merab Metreveli

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 6:44 PM

1/ A new report by the Foreign Policy Centre (FPC) argues that Georgia has evolved from a passive transit country into a strategic hub helping Russia circumvent Western sanctions imposed after the invasion of Ukraine.

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— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 8:02 AM

2/ The report, titled “Dealing with the Sanctions Bubble in Georgia,” describes a growing ecosystem of intermediaries, offshore jurisdictions, and political enablers that turn sanctions into profit — a system the authors call a “sanctions bubble.”

— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 8:02 AM

3/ According to FPC’s findings, Russia-linked financial and trade flows — including re-exports, remittances, and tourism — accounted for 14.5% of Georgia’s GDP in 2022. The report highlights several alarming trends:

— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 8:02 AM

4/ Over 37,400 Russian companies have been registered in Georgia since 2022, many through offshore channels.

— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 8:02 AM

5/ 61% of Georgia’s oil imports now come from Russia, raising concerns of “origin laundering”, where Russian oil is re-labelled as Georgian and exported to Europe.

— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 8:02 AM

6/ Imports of dual-use technologies, including microchips and electronics, have sharply increased, and could be re-exported to Russia for military use.

— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 8:02 AM

7/ Georgia is a major re-exporter of vehicles to Central Asia, many of which eventually reach Russia through indirect routes.

— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 8:02 AM

10/ The report cautions that if the “sanctions bubble” bursts, Georgia’s economy could face severe collapse, driven by its growing dependence on Russian capital, corruption risks, and loss of Western trust.

— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 8:02 AM

(that should’ve been 9)

10/ The authors urge Western governments to tighten sanction enforcement involving Georgia, target oligarchs and enablers rather than the public, and help Georgian businesses reduce exposure to Russian influence to avoid a potential financial and political crisis.

— Publika.ge (@publikage.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 8:02 AM

Georgians will win this.
The only questions are how soon and at what cost.

— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 6:50 PM

The DPRK:

North Korea and Russia are rapidly building their first road bridge to enhance logistics and expand military and economic ties. Frontelligence Insight has analyzed satellite imagery and project documents to estimate its completion and potential impact. 🧵Thread:

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— Tatarigami (@tatarigami.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 1:48 AM

2/ Today, Russia and North Korea have no direct road connection. The only land crossing is the 1950s-era Korea – Russia Friendship Railroad Bridge. Air and maritime routes, via Pyongyang Airport and ports like Rajin, exist, but their capacity and costs are often suboptimal.

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— Tatarigami (@tatarigami.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 1:48 AM

4/ Both countries are building entry ports with border control and customs zones. The North Korean side appears ahead, with a complex of buildings likely intended for administrative, storage, and inspection functions to manage cargo and passenger flows.

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— Tatarigami (@tatarigami.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 1:48 AM

5/ On the Russian side, the “Khasan” checkpoint with five lanes is planned: 2 for cargo, 1 for oversized vehicles, one for buses, and one for cars. Initial capacity is 300 vehicles per day (~109,500 per year), expandable to 800 per day (~292,000 per year).

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— Tatarigami (@tatarigami.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 1:48 AM

6/ Cargo trucks are prioritized, expected to account for 200 of the 300 daily vehicles. Passenger traffic is capped at 2,850 people per day. For context, Zabaikalsk checkpoint on the China–Russia border handled just 440 vehicles per day in 2024

— Tatarigami (@tatarigami.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 1:48 AM

7/ At the current pace, barring severe weather-related delays, the bridge and its supporting infrastructure are expected to be completed by mid-2026, indicating that the project remains on schedule.

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— Tatarigami (@tatarigami.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 1:48 AM

8/ We assess that North Korea’s trade with Russia is unlikely to suddenly surge, whether measured against either country’s GDP or their share of overall exports, given the limited range of mutually sought goods, North Korea’s purchasing power, and its relatively small population

— Tatarigami (@tatarigami.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 1:48 AM

9/ In short, the Khasan–Tumangang bridge will boost Russia-North Korea economic and military cooperation and provide Pyongyang more leverage with Beijing, but it is unlikely to alter the regional balance or challenge China as North Korea’s dominant trade partner

— Tatarigami (@tatarigami.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 1:48 AM

10/ Russia is likely to continue its barter of resources and technology for people, receiving both workers and soldiers. While Korean cheap labor won’t solve Russia’s workforce shortage, it could provide limited relief and support both infrastructure and military projects.

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— Tatarigami (@tatarigami.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 1:48 AM

11/ Thank you for reading. This report and satellite imagery would not be possible without your support, which keeps our project independent. We are grateful to our supporters and welcome new donations as many investigations are set to release next month:

buymeacoffee.com/frontelligence

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— Tatarigami (@tatarigami.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 1:48 AM

Back to Ukraine.

Russia’s fuel exports have dropped to their lowest level since 2022, as a combination of refinery shutdowns and tightening sanctions has triggered a collapse in the country’s energy trade, Bloomberg reports.

Ukrainian sanctions must continue 💪🔥

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 4:43 PM

Here’s a good part of the reason:

He’s also very popular in Belgorod too!

They’re dropping leaflets with Mаdyаr in Belgorod

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— Mira of Kyiv 🇺🇦 (@reshetz.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 2:20 PM

Destruction of the Russian Osa air defense system by a night drone bomber

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 5:53 AM

This is just weird:

The Russian Ministry of Defense announced that it is ready to cease hostilities for 5–6 hours in the areas of Pokrovsk and Kupiansk to allow foreign journalists to pass through.

A gesture of goodwill from the Russians? Or is Putin planning to stage a fake show for Trump in Donbas?

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 11:59 AM

Sumy:

In Sumy, a residential building is on fire after a russian drone attack! More than 10 explosions have been reported in the city, and the attack is still ongoing.

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— Iryna Voichuk (@irynavoichuk.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 5:43 PM

A Russian Italmas drone attacks a filling station in Sumy, NE Ukraine in broad daylight. Fascist Russia’s air attacks on Ukraine, which used to occur mainly a night, now take place at all times of day following the ramping up of drone production under Putin’s war economy.

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— Euan MacDonald (@euanmacdonald.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 6:40 AM

Vinnytsia Oblast:

In Vinnytsia region, a 7-year-old girl was killed in a Russian overnight attack.

Four other people were wounded.

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 6:51 AM

The 7 year old is Diana from the top of tonight’s update.

Donetsk Oblast:

Russia struck Kramatorsk and Kostiantynivka, killing two people and injuring nine.

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— Iryna Voichuk (@irynavoichuk.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 2:08 PM

Zaporizhzhia:

Last night, russia attacked Zaporizhzhia with eight missiles and over 20 drones, destroying infrastructure and a dormitory.

Two people were killed and 17 others were injured, including six children.

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— Iryna Voichuk (@irynavoichuk.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 6:55 AM

Zaporizhzhia this morning. Building struck by a Russian missile partially collapsed. There are at least 2 dead and dozens of injured, including children.

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 6:41 AM

Toretsk, Russian occupied Donetsk Oblast:

This is all that remains of now occupied Toretsk. Not a living soul. Just dead ruins. Russia destroys everything.

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 10:23 AM

Kyiv:

Kyiv on heightened alert due to approaching cruise missiles. Unconfirmed reports on Telegram monitors that two Russian cruise missiles crossed into Moldova near Briceni and were headed to Lipcani, and may have crossed into Romania. Possibly heading back to 🇺🇦 towards Chernivtsi.

— Euan MacDonald (@euanmacdonald.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 12:17 AM

Lviv Oblast:

Lviv Oblast now targeted by Russian Kinzhal aeroballistic missiles fired from MiG-31K warplanes. Reports of hit at energy infrastructure in Dobrotvir.

— Euan MacDonald (@euanmacdonald.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 12:41 AM

Russian occupied Luhansk:

In Luhansk, there are emergency power outages. Reports indicate a fire, likely following a strike on the Luhansk TPP in the city of Shchastia.

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 1:12 PM

Kostiantynivka:

Kostiantynivka. A 24th Brigade communications officer shot down a Russian FPV drone while escorting a journalist from Het Nederlands Dagblad, who was documenting damage to the Holy Assumption Church caused by enemy shelling.
www.instagram.com/reel/DQW905I…

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 9:12 AM

Oryol Oblast, Russia:

Orel, Russia 🔥💥

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 8:09 PM

Russian thermal power plant in Oryol is under drone attack right now

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 7:14 PM

That’s enough for tonight.

Your daily Patron!

There are no new Patron skeets or videos today. Here is some adjacent material.

😻🌷 Someone brought a bouquet, placed it on the bonnet, thinking, ‘She’ll come out now, see it, and be delighted.’ Not so fast! The cat saw it first. And decided, ‘Nice flowers, but on my bonnet, they’re clearly for me. Thanks, of course, but you could have brought some sour cream.’
Odesa 🇺🇦

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— Vitalis Viva (@vitalisviva.bsky.social) October 29, 2025 at 9:16 AM

Open thread!

War for Ukraine Day 1,344: Another Deadly Night/Early Morning, Another Russian Butcher’s BillPost + Comments (15)

Open Thread: Republicans Have Lost the Plot

by Anne Laurie|  October 30, 20255:45 pm| 167 Comments

This post is in: GOP Death Cult, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Republicans in Disarray!, Show Us on the Doll Where the Invisible Hand Touched You

Surely the fact that JD Vance is the face of this means that they're winning and feel very confident in their position

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— Ned Resnikoff (@resnikoff.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 3:48 PM

… Maybe not *their* plot (‘Destroy America by turning it into an oligarchy’), but the storyline that gets us to the triumphant finale of their plotting. This is Underpants Gnome theory, live action version.

The GOP started this shut down with "Mwahahahaha Puppetmaster Vought will annihilate our political foes" and now they're "The democrats are causing this chaos we just want to be good stewards" and Thune is having a big boohoo on the senate floor.

— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 3:35 PM

Like there's absolutely 0 about the data or the way the republicans are now acting that should make the dems do hot shit. They're losing, they know they're losing, they don't have a message.

— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 3:39 PM

THEY EXPLICITLY SAID THAT THEY WANTED TO CAUSE PAIN AND SUFFERING, and LET VOUGHT ROLL AROUND IN IT LIKE A PIG IN SHIT ON TWITTER
And now they're like "oh boo hoo the WH has been trying to make this as easy as possible we're just smol beans."

— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 3:43 PM

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Like seriously, they're seeing the same polls we are, they know they're being blamed and they're thrasing for a message.
Notice how quiet the Vought stuff and punishing people is now.

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— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 3:34 PM

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I agree, but I also fundamentally think the GOP coalition in its current form can't win any shutdown fight. They are explicitly the party of anti-governance and government.

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— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 4:13 PM

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i love to bag on schumer as much as anyone, and still think this leadership is overdue for a change of the guard, but i think it's hard to argue he didn't learn anything from the last funding capitulation

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— GHOULLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachine.com) October 30, 2025 at 3:28 PM

it also either has to be true that johnson never believed dems had the stomach for this fight, or he did and then he threw thune down the well deliberately, anyway

— GHOULLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachine.com) October 30, 2025 at 3:31 PM

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Voters discover that hot stove, yet again, turns out to be hot

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— Tom Nichols (@radiofreetom.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 2:31 PM

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I think the fact that Americans generally have had easy access to treats and a relatively high standard of comparative living (and even a much gentler post COVID period) has blinded our GOP overlords to the fact that taking away said treats and high standard gets rid of the reasons for complacency

— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 4:23 PM

Open Thread: Republicans Have Lost the PlotPost + Comments (167)

ANOTHER Thursday Afternoon Open Thread

by Betty Cracker|  October 30, 20253:48 pm| 140 Comments

This post is in: Birdwatching, Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity, Assholes, General Stupidity

Sorry for the light posting lately, which has sometimes left y’all with near-Tbogg-sized morning comment threads. I’ve been on the road a bit, and access has been spotty on the mobile backend sometimes. Also, I am a lazy turd!

Here’s something worthy of Marie Antoinette:

“I think most people are going to say, OK, I had a great deal during COVID,” said Club For Growth President David McIntosh. “But now it’s back to business as usual, and I should be paying for health care.”

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— Mississippi Free Press (@mississippifreepress.org) October 30, 2025 at 2:20 PM

We already pay for healthcare — more than any other country, and with worse fucking outcomes! But it looks like we may get to test this oligarch testicle cozy’s theory. From what I understand, if Repubs don’t move to end the shutdown and extend ACA subsidies soon, it will be too late to extend them for 2026 because unsubsidized pricing will be locked in. Fuckers!

Here’s more gaslighting from a Trump-humping shit-stain:

Kristi Noem: "No American citizens have been arrested or detained. We focus on those who are here illegally. And anything you would hear or report that would be different than that is simply not true and false reporting."

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— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) October 30, 2025 at 12:57 PM

ProPublica documented at least 170 citizens who’ve been illegally detained by Trump’s ICE goons. Noem is a bald-faced liar, but you knew that.

There’s lots of other outrageous shit going on, but I don’t have the heart to post about it now. Instead, here’s a short clip of a cool bird that stopped by the lagoon yesterday:

"Excuse me! My eyes are up here!" #birds

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— Betty Cracker of Florida (@bettycrackerfl.bsky.social) October 29, 2025 at 10:22 AM

More migratory Sandhills are joining the resident population every day, which means lots of very large and loud birds hollering at each other. When Sandhills in the air or on the ground see other Sandhills flying by, they raise hell in their pterodactyl language. It’s pretty cool!

Open thread!

ETA: Well, I bigfooted a post by accident, but you know what? Fuck it. Imma leave it up! Sorry, WG! ;-)

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Thursday Afternoon Open Thread

by WaterGirl|  October 30, 20253:25 pm| 37 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Looks like we could use a new thread!

Another crazy day here, hoping things will settle down any day now.  I was going to say “soon” but I didn’t want to jinx anything.

 

 

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Thursday Morning Open Thread: Chaos Everywhere

by Anne Laurie|  October 30, 20256:35 am| 343 Comments

This post is in: How about that weather?, Military, Open Threads, Trump Crime Cartel, World's Best Healthcare (If You Can Afford It)

#Hurricane #Melissa leaves trail of destruction across #Cuba, #Haiti and #Jamaica. www.npr.org/2025/10/29/n…

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— ZenArchie (@zenarchie.bsky.social) October 30, 2025 at 2:47 AM

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Higher prices, less help and a government shutdown hang over health insurance markets as shoppers start looking for coverage this week.

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— The Associated Press (@apnews.com) October 29, 2025 at 1:00 PM

I am not sure what they hope t achieve by lying about this. People are already learning what their new premiums and out of pocket expenses are going to be and it is not 13 dollars.

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— Stephen Nuñez (@socio-steve.bsky.social) October 29, 2025 at 4:14 PM

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These people have civilian jobs. It's one thing to mobilize them for an emergency or a legitimate war, another thing to send them to American cities to stand around and mill about. You're messing with people's careers to further a hostile and idiotic agenda.

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— Brandon Friedman (@brandonfriedman.bsky.social) October 29, 2025 at 9:11 PM

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interesting to see that the supermarket publications have had significantly more courage to speak plainly than the prestige press this time around

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— GHOULLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachine.com) October 29, 2025 at 1:03 PM


(Rex Huppke, author of that op-ed, has been consistently good at dinging the Trump maladministration.)

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And there are still people working to make the world better!

Alabama State University President Dr. Quinton T. Ross Jr. said the donation is "the largest single donation in its 158-year history."

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— USA TODAY (@usatoday.com) October 29, 2025 at 11:11 AM

Philanthropist MacKenzie Scott has made a monumental donation to another historically Black college or university (HBCU), which the school is touting as a “defining moment.”

In a social media post on Monday, Oct. 27, Alabama State University President Dr. Quinton T. Ross Jr. confirmed that Scott, the former wife of billionaire businessman Jeff Bezos, gifted the school $38 million.

Scott’s donation is the latest in her philanthropic efforts to Black institutions and programs. This month, she donated $63 million to Morgan State University in Baltimore and $38 million to the University of Maryland Eastern Shore in Princess Anne.

Another one of Scott’s recent donations includes $40 million to the African American Cultural Heritage Action Fund, part of the Washington-based National Trust for Historic Preservation.

The Action Fund said in a press release on Oct. 15 that Scott’s $40 million donation comes after another $20 million investment made just four years ago.

The Action Fund’s efforts include the preservation of historically Black sites such as churches and hotels, as well as raising money for HBCUs…

Scott, who has an estimated net worth of $33.9 billion, also made Forbes’ 2025 list of the 400 richest people in the United States, ranking No. 28.

In 2020 alone, she donated millions to several other HBCUs, including Hampton University, Howard University, Morehouse College, Spelman College, Tuskegee University, and Xavier University of Louisiana.

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