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I’m more christian than these people and i’m an atheist.

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A tremendous foreign policy asset… to all of our adversaries.

Sadly, there is no cure for stupid.

Every reporter and pundit should have to declare if they ever vacationed with a billionaire.

No Kings: Americans standing in the way of bad history saying “Oh, Fuck No!”

Human rights are not a matter of opinion!

Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.

“The defense has a certain level of trust in defendant that the government does not.”

Well, whatever it is, it’s better than being a Republican.

In my day, never was longer.

“In this country American means white. everybody else has to hyphenate.”

Donald Trump found guilty as fuck – May 30, 2024!

Our job is not to persuade republicans but to defeat them.

Innocent people do not delay justice.

Their freedom requires your slavery.

The low info voters probably won’t even notice or remember by their next lap around the goldfish bowl.

If you thought you’d already seen people saying the stupidest things possible on the internet, prepare yourselves.

Accused of treason; bitches about the ratings. I am in awe.

This year has been the longest three days of putin’s life.

Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.

the 10% who apparently lack object permanence

Whoever he was, that guy was nuts.

Reality always gets a vote in the end.

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Excellent Read (Open Thread)

by Betty Cracker|  June 30, 20232:59 pm| 65 Comments

This post is in: LGBTQ Rights Are Human Rights, Open Threads

In the morning thread, valued commenter Scout211 recommended a lengthy HuffPo piece authored by Christopher Mathlas:

He’s The Trans Son Of An Anti-Trans Influencer. It’s His Turn To Speak.

Renton Sinclair’s mother is a former Miss Illinois who wants to force trans people out of public life. That’s exactly what makes her a rising star in MAGA World.

It’s long but very much worth your time, and there’s no paywall. A few brief excerpts:

Renton doesn’t talk to Tania [the shitty mom] anymore. But Tania is always talking about Renton these days, on podcasts and livestreams and stages across the country, from California to South Dakota to Pennsylvania. She often tells the story of how God appeared to her in a dream before her first child was born, telling her what to name her child, a name with Biblical origins…

Tania  joined this scrum of fledgling moral panic capitalists sometime during the pandemic. By January 2022, she’d lost her day job — a firing Tania has said stemmed not from her opposition to trans people but from statements she’d made against vaccine mandates and about the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol…

The mom is a religious fanatic, but Mathlas is right to call her a “moral panic capitalist” because she has avidly monetized her estrangement from her own child. Thank dog he escaped that cruel, money-grubbing weirdo, who sounds like a cross between Kari Lake and the mother from “Carrie.”

What makes [Renton] angry is that the pain in these pages [his childhood journal] — their chronicles of depression and confusion, an overdose, and wanting deeply every day to die — is what so many politicians across the country want to inflict on trans people. To codify that cruelty he experienced, that sheer unkindness, into law. Like his mom, these legislators are uninterested in listening to trans people like Renton. To listen to them would mean seeing them as something besides a convenient wedge issue — the latest scapegoat to be sacrificed in a cynical ploy for votes and clout. To listen to them would mean to know the people they’re trying to disappear.

It’s all so vulgar and cynical, the Repub cultivation of this “wedge issue.” Mathlas goes into that a bit, recounting an idiotic public appearance by Trump in which he marveled delightedly at the crowd’s enthusiasm for his remarks denouncing “transgender insanity:”

“It’s amazing how strongly people feel about that. You see, if I’m talking about cutting taxes, people go like that,” Trump said, imitating a polite golf clap. “I talk about transgender, everyone goes crazy. Who would have thought? Five years ago, you didn’t know what the hell it was.”

It is amazing that the Repub base are programmable meat-sacks that people like Ron DeSantis, Christopher Rufo, Chaya Raichik, etc., can wind up and aim at a small and vulnerable community. And of course that repulsive bag of liposuction clinic medical waste Trump is happy to jump on the hate bandwagon — any hate bandwagon — if there are votes and dollars in it.

Anyhoo, Renton sounds heroically well-adjusted considering the upbringing he had from his deranged nightmare of a mother. Check the story out if you get a chance.

Open thread.

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Friday Open Thread

by WaterGirl|  June 30, 20231:45 pm| 122 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, #notintendedtobeafactualstatement

Yesterday’s storm took down our internet just after 5 pm or so, and just came back up at noon.  No internet for 18 hours, yikes!

What did I miss?

Jackie sent me this fun video, so I will share it with al of you.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hcGiRV1XARw

I want to see the expression on this kid’s face when he is 16 and his mom is showing it to his first girlfriend / boyfriend!

I saw this yesterday when I still had internet – do we know what these are about yet?

Between yesterday and today, there have been three new sealed entries on the docket for the Trump/Nauta case. I have no idea what they are, but you best bet I am watching. pic.twitter.com/NCF1yCzrQD

— Lisa Rubin (@lawofruby) June 29, 2023

Well, shit, 5 minutes on the internet (because I saw that Tom had just put up a post) gave me lots of bad news.

BREAKING: SCOTUS just tanked Biden’s student debt forgiveness program.

So it doesn’t matter if it was $10K, $20K, $50K, or all debt. I told you your real enemy wasn’t Biden. But I guess you just didn’t like Hillary enough.

— Mueller, She Wrote (@MuellerSheWrote) June 30, 2023

So, let me get this straight: yesterday the Supreme Court ruled colleges CAN’T discriminate on the basis of race but today they ruled that a web designer CAN discriminate against the LGBTQ+ community? Sorry, but this Court is so freaking messed up.

— Victor Shi (@Victorshi2020) June 30, 2023

Anything else good or bad that I missed?

At least this made me laugh.

Good morning.

More indictments are coming.

Big, beautiful indictments.

The likes of which no one has seen before.

Make America Lawful Again.

— Just Jack (@7Veritas4) June 30, 2023

Open thread.

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I’m Fucking Done

by Tom Levenson|  June 30, 202311:27 am| 255 Comments

This post is in: Activist Judges!, C.R.E.A.M., Gay Rights Are human Rights, LGBTQ Rights, Open Threads, Racial Justice, The War On Women, Women's Rights

It’s time to break this rogue court.

I'm Fucking Done

With apologies to the lawyers in the Jackaltariat, there’s nothing left to save in the current court. Its majority, in place barring radical legislative change I don’t see coming anytime soon, is a corrupt, wholly owned, claque of elite religious fanatics.  Or perhaps, more accurately, a coalition of lease-to-own hacks and true believers.

Its decisions are a parody of judicial reasoning.  They constitute a radical power grab–a judicial coup–which has been running in a slow rolling way since at least 2000 with Bush v. Gore.

Whether by enlargement or an express legislative limitation of the court’s review powers, it’s time to end this antidemocratic attack on our society.

I’m just fucking done. Past done.

And yeah–I know nothing can happen until/unless we retake the House and extend control of the Senate beyond the Manchinema roadblock.

One more thing: this could have been avoided if not that many people had chosen not to piss away votes on “principle” in 2000 and 2016.  Spilt milk and all that. But if anyone needed a reminder (no one here) 2024 is the next most important election of our lives.

Open goddamn thread.

PS: Don’t get me started on the willed scientific illiteracy of the majority, contaminating their rulings on anything involving technical issues and regulation. Intercourse them orthogonally with oxidized farm implements.

Image: after William Hogarth, The Bench, engraving by William Dent, roughly 1790s.

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(More Than Ever) TGIFriday Open Thread: Another Month Almost Over

by Anne Laurie|  June 30, 20237:34 am| 286 Comments

This post is in: Activist Judges!, Biden Administration in Action, LGBTQ Rights Are Human Rights, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

?????? Cities in Chile, Canada and India mark Pride Month with events and parades pic.twitter.com/YYxBqv8FM7

— Reuters (@Reuters) June 26, 2023

Disregard anyone who tries to tell you both parties are the same. https://t.co/Egrl5xkZhk

— Jean-Michel Connard ?? (@torriangray) June 27, 2023

republicans: trans people should be sentenced to death
democrats: what? no.
nate: hmm such a polarized debate.

— Jean-Michel Connard ?? (@torriangray) June 27, 2023


 
It’s gonna be a bumpy ride…

Biden on MSNBC: "I think if we start the process of trying to expand the court, we're gonna politicize it maybe forever in a way that's not healthy." pic.twitter.com/Gwu72kWK0l

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 29, 2023

Biden: "The last administration tried to direct the court, tried to push the court — whether it was the fed or the court or institutions that we're supposed to stay hands off. So I've never engaged in that. It's not my role to do that." pic.twitter.com/AyrzyDttys

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 29, 2023

For decades, the Supreme Court recognized a college’s freedom to decide how to build a diverse student body and provide opportunity.

Today, the Court walked away from precedent, effectively ending affirmative action in higher education.

I strongly disagree with this decision.

— President Biden (@POTUS) June 29, 2023

Today, I want to offer some guidance to our nation’s colleges as they review their admissions systems after today’s Supreme Court decision:

They should not abandon their commitment to ensure student bodies of diverse backgrounds and experience that reflect all of America. pic.twitter.com/zrsCl8s1Jd

— President Biden (@POTUS) June 29, 2023

538 has upgraded polling averages!

All of our models, including for the 2024 GOP primary, Biden & Harris job approval, and many candidates’ favorability ratings, update automatically on the polls page: https://t.co/4mBIRY19dR

And here’s our methodology: https://t.co/KUgLq00Dq0

— G Elliott Morris (@gelliottmorris) June 28, 2023

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Late Night ‘Grifters Gonna Grift’ Open Thread: Cornel West Pokes His Head Up

by Anne Laurie|  June 30, 20232:52 am| 97 Comments

This post is in: 2024 Primaries, Grifters Gonna Grift, Open Threads

What’s this grifter garbage? pic.twitter.com/dD2JQtoaNZ

— Matt Gabriele (@prof_gabriele) June 29, 2023

It’s been almost a month since West first announced his ‘campaign’, and I guess he figured all the haterz are busy right now going after RFK Jr, so… why not grab some more sucker money?

(I guess the ‘good’ news is that any money spent on Cornell West would otherwise go to Rob Schneider’s new best bud… )

Previously, on:

“Bernie is my dear brother. I’ll love him forever. And I was hoping that he’d break away from the Democratic Party. I just think this is the moment where we have to begin to break the back of the corporate duopoly.” https://t.co/IOUoealykW

— David Weigel (@daveweigel) June 9, 2023

the green party ran a Putinist grifter *twice* for the presidency, something even the GOP has only managed once.

— James Palmer (@BeijingPalmer) June 5, 2023

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The People’s Party didn’t have a primary, they just coronated Cornel West. I’m voting Democrat to send a message.

— Slope Slipperer (@agraybee) June 5, 2023

lmao it’s so funny that obama’s failure to give cornel west a plus-one to the inauguration led, inevitably, to this moment https://t.co/NDpOiPFaAp

— nephilim war gold star family (@revhowardarson) May 13, 2023

It may seem confusing that Cornel West would endorse Ron DeSantis until you realize that West is on the board of Classic Learning Initiatives, which created the Classic Learning Test that DeSantis just approved funding for all school districts in Florida to use. https://t.co/oJv6kOWfuN

— Neoliberal John Snow (@NeoliberalSnow) June 5, 2023

Cornell West announcing a third party run for President makes me more confident that Trump’s VP pick is going to be Tim Scott

— post malone ergo propter malone (@PropterMalone) June 5, 2023

there’s good money to be made in persuading people that you’re the Rosetta Stone for a group that they have had recurring problems with

— post malone ergo propter malone (@PropterMalone) June 5, 2023

Michael Eric Dyson wrote a teary-eyed (and frankly long-winded) takedown of that babbling grifter years agohttps://t.co/sHlu9qvMN0

— Peter Wolf (@peterawolf) June 9, 2023


(Dyson’s teardown is actually quite good, but — yes — too long.)

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Proud to Be A Democrat Open Thread: Affirmatively Active

by Anne Laurie|  June 29, 20238:51 pm| 94 Comments

This post is in: Activist Judges!, Education, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

“We cannot let this decision be the last word,” Biden tells us at White House, in remarks on SCOTUS decision on race in college admissions.
“Discrimination still exists in America.” pic.twitter.com/2qQjVaGKtS

— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) June 29, 2023

Asked if this a rogue court, Biden says of US Supreme Court, “This is not a normal court.” pic.twitter.com/IMJQhQS9hM

— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) June 29, 2023

22 Democrats voted to confirm Roberts

22 Democrats voted no

Joe Biden voted no. https://t.co/vubbkFbNfp

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) June 29, 2023

Wow. Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson dissent. pic.twitter.com/ica3ED6LZq

— Neal Katyal (@neal_katyal) June 29, 2023

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This is really interesting. For so long, Thomas, as the only Black person on the Court, has gotten to frame race issues for his colleagues with very little pushback.

With KBJ on the Court, there's a competing voice and perspective on race. And he has to respond to her views. pic.twitter.com/wQn5b9JWkz

— Melissa Murray (@ProfMMurray on Spoutible ?? ) (@ProfMMurray) June 29, 2023

?? Ketanji Brown Jackson has a two-part footnote on Clarence Thomas.

She says he "responds to a dissent I did not write… demonstrates an obsession with race consciousness that far outstrips my or UNC’s… ignites too many more straw men to list, or fully extinguish, here." pic.twitter.com/s4XQ39kyyI

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) June 29, 2023

Progressive group Take Back the Court notes Jackson recused from Harvard case to avoid "even the appearance of conflict" since she was on its board til last spring.

But Clarence Thomas failed to recuse despite wife being on Natl Assn of Scholars board, which filed amicus briefs.

— Jennifer Bendery (@jbendery) June 29, 2023

‘Just Us’ Roberts: Of course, if you’re one of the good ones, like our Clarence…

This is just emotional vampirism. 'Entertain me with your trauma. In a manner that absolves me.' https://t.co/rQK2mqujhj

— zeddy (@Zeddary) June 29, 2023

Earlier this month, I asked Anita Hill about the possibility of the Supreme Court ending affirmative action. Here's what she told me. pic.twitter.com/GKcFUKKAb0

— Christiane Amanpour (@amanpour) June 29, 2023

I wanted to share some of my thoughts on today's Supreme Court decision on affirmative action: pic.twitter.com/Wa6TGafzHV

— Michelle Obama (@MichelleObama) June 29, 2023


“So often, we just accept that money, power and privilege are perfectly justifiable forms of affirmative action, while kids growing up like I did are expected to compete when the ground is anything but level.”

Lotta conservatives explaining to me that white guys at Harvard deserve to be there and POC don’t forget I worked for c student and Harvard grad Jared Kushner.

— Elizabeth Spiers (@espiers) June 29, 2023

Tucker Carlson is still allowed to ask Hunter Biden for helping getting his kids into Georgetown.

— Daily Trix (@DailyTrix) June 29, 2023

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War for Ukraine Day 491: Just a Brief Thursday Night Update

by Adam L Silverman|  June 29, 20237:01 pm| 50 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

(Image by NEIVANMADE)

I’m fried. It’s been a long week. So just a very brief update tonight.

Here is President Zelenskyy’s address from earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

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Combating ecocide is one of the points of the Ukrainian Peace Formula, and we must implement each of its points – address by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy

29 June 2023 – 22:25

I wish you health, dear Ukrainians!

I am finishing the day in the Verkhovna Rada with a meeting with our Speaker Ruslan Stefanchuk. We are working.

And now the report on this day, a busy day. A very long one.

The European Council meeting – it is already a tradition for Ukraine to be among the members of the European Union. The agenda is obvious: our defense in this war, our path to victory, support from our partners, our security support for them, for our entire Europe. Ukraine influences the strength of Europe. This is a fact. And this year, it is time to use this and other similar facts to strengthen unity in Europe, including by starting negotiations on Ukraine’s membership in the European Union.

The meeting with Mike Pence, the 48th Vice President of the United States, Senator… American support for Ukraine is vital – from all Americans, every American family, all U.S. civil society, all political leaders, Congress – both parties, of course, from President Biden. Thank you for this support!

I discussed with Mr. Pence our defense, our cooperation – from the very beginning, from the very first days between the Ukrainian and American nations. We talked about weapons, about the capabilities of our soldiers, about our common values.

The meeting with the members of the International Working Group on the Environmental Consequences of War – Greta Thunberg, Margot Wallström and others. We talked primarily about the Russian terrorist attack and ecocide at the Kakhovka hydroelectric power plant and the work of our group, which will deal with issues directly related to the destructive impact of Russian aggression on nature. Combating ecocide is one of the points of the Ukrainian Peace Formula, and we must implement each of its points, all aspects of peace.

The conversation with the President of Guatemala. The Peace Formula, our cooperation with Latin America, assistance in demining, and most importantly, in establishing a Tribunal for Russian aggression.

The meeting with our business representatives – very important, very meaningful. I am grateful to them. We discussed how to stimulate economic activity now, in times of war. We talked about how to provide more protection for business, more interaction between the state and business. The first priority now is defense, and this is obvious. But the economy is also important.

I am grateful to everyone who works for Ukraine, for Ukrainians, who preserves and creates new jobs, who pays taxes and who is already preparing for our recovery, for the large-scale transformation program of Ukraine that we will definitely implement after our victory.

And, of course, our warriors, our defense. Today, in my address to the Chatham House community – one of the world’s leading British intellectual centers – I told that three more very important decrees have been prepared to award our warriors – 419 warriors. In total, over 49,000 Ukrainians have already been awarded state awards during the full-scale war!

I am grateful to each and every one who defends our country! I thank all those who are in combat now, who also gave us the best news today – the advancement of Ukrainian positions. Glory to you, our heroes! I thank everyone in the world who really helps us!

Glory to Ukraine!

Velyka Novslika-Vuhledar:

VELYKA NOVOSLIKA-VUHLEDAR /1645 UTC 29 JUN/ UKR air defense downed a Russian Su-25 strike aircraft west of Vuhledar. RU airstrikes and artillery fire missions target T-05-18 HWY axis. UKR forces in contact at Starornnaiorske and Urozhaine. pic.twitter.com/kK4akd57wx

— Chuck Pfarrer | Indications & Warnings | (@ChuckPfarrer) June 29, 2023

Kreminna:

KREMINNA AXIS /1745 UTC 29 JUN/ During the reporting period 28-29 JUN, RU forces reduced offensive operations on the Kreminna axis. In lieu of offensive activity, RU conducted air strikes against Bila Hora, and fire missions against Zarichne, Nevske and Bilohorivka. pic.twitter.com/VaUpahwVqE

— Chuck Pfarrer | Indications & Warnings | (@ChuckPfarrer) June 29, 2023

Bakhmut:

BAKHMUT AXIS /1720 UTC 29 JUN/ In the last 48 hours, a series of RU offensive operations in the vicinity of the M-03 HWY were broken up. UKR pressed forward as RI units retreated, and then remained in contact at Blahodante, Dubovo-Vasylivka, Berkhivka, Yahidne and Khromove. pic.twitter.com/TD3Noy1XBq

— Chuck Pfarrer | Indications & Warnings | (@ChuckPfarrer) June 29, 2023

Ukrainska Pravda is reporting details from the paywalled Wall Street Journal article that the US is moving closer to sending ATACMS to Ukraine.

The United States came close to making a decision to provide Ukraine with ATACMS long-range tactical missile systems.

Source: The Wall Street Journal, referring to US and European officials, as European Pravda reported

Details: According to European and US officials, providing ATACMS to Ukraine still needs to be approved “at the highest level”.

But they have seen signs that the previously reluctant White House changed its position and came to understand “the urgent need to support Ukraine in its struggle in the coming weeks”.

As a senior Ukrainian defence official told The Wall Street Journal, in recent weeks “Kyiv has received positive signs that the US has changed its position on the ATACMS system”.

The army’s ATACMS tactical missile systems are surface-to-surface missiles with a range of about 300 kilometres, roughly four times the range of the missiles used by the mobile HIMARS systems that the US began sending to Ukraine last year.

I’m in complete agreement with The Kyiv Indepent‘s Illia Ponomarenko in regard to this news:

Well, yeah… the United States is drawing closer to providing Ukraine with ATACMS.
Just like with so many weapons in this war, the transfer of which was always necessary, justified, and reasonable.
But it always had to take way too much time bought with the blood of soldiers…

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) June 29, 2023

Here’s some more analysis regarding the fallout from the Prigozhin revolt from Tatiana Stanovaya, Senior Fellow at the Carnegie Russia Eurasia Center.

There's a lot of speculation around the situation with Prigozhin and Wagner, so let's clarify what we know so far:

1️⃣ Prigozhin has been exiled to Belarus. The specifics of his future are currently under Putin’s consideration. Lukashenko has hinted at the temporary nature of…

— Tatiana Stanovaya (@Stanovaya) June 29, 2023

Here’s the full text of her tweet:

There’s a lot of speculation around the situation with Prigozhin and Wagner, so let’s clarify what we know so far:

1️⃣ Prigozhin has been exiled to Belarus. The specifics of his future are currently under Putin’s consideration. Lukashenko has hinted at the temporary nature of Prigozhin’s stay, indicating a lack of interest to permanently host such individuals, but it’s likely that there will be no choice and he will have to. Without diving into speculation about the exact arrangements, the apparent aim is to neutralise Prigozhin, ‘lock him up’ outside of Russia, and the next steps will unfold with time.

2️⃣ Wagner is being separated from Prigozhin, signaling an end to Wagner as it was previously known. There will be a dissection of the organisation: some parts will be removed, some taken, and others dismantled. This concerns Africa and Syria too. The Foreign Ministry is already actively participating in this. Wagner’s involvement varied widely, so the Kremlin (read MFA, SVR and GRU) will vet Wagner’s operatives, their resources, and audit their presence, seeking whether a presence is necessary at all. We won’t see a Wagner 2.0, at least the way it was.

3️⃣ I don’t expect a purge in the style of Stalin; that’s not Putin’s approach. His perspective splits individuals into heroes, traitors (who face severe consequences), or lost souls who may be pardoned if they repent in time. Arrests are possible within this framework, but figures like Surovikin are less likely to be targeted. The challenge here is that Putin isn’t the same as before, and there are influential figures with their own agendas, like Sergei Shoigu, who may be interested in eliminating internal opposition. So final fate of Surovikin is unclear.

4️⃣ Prigozhin’s mutiny has underscored a potentially newer quality of the regime, which is not entirely new but is now more apparent. If Putin used to control the players, the power dynamics are now shifting. Given Putin’s detachment and distorted view of reality, the players are starting to manipulate Putin. While I was always very reluctant to perceive Putin as being manipulated, the effects of his 23-year reign, his ageing, and the pressures of war could be leading to this shift. Prigozhin’s struggle to reach the president and Shoigu’s attempt to tackle the Wagner issue are the outcomes of Putin’s inaction. This mutiny was so shocking that the regime appeared to many as near to collapse, which significantly undermines Putin’s ability to secure control in the eyes of the political class.

5️⃣ Lastly, we’re now witnessing the initial signs of an anti-elite trend in society. This shouldn’t be confused with anti-Putin or anti-war sentiments. People are becoming increasingly frustrated with an inefficient and bloated elite, either scoffing at them or expressing silent indignation. Although this trend may not have immediate political implications, it may pose potentially a significant challenge later.

Let’s that these one at a time.

  1. I do not disagree that the intention is to get Prigozhin out of Russia and keep him out, but that isn’t going to resolve the Prigozhin problem. As long as he and his supporters have access to their Telegram channels and are able to post new material and then others can boost it, amplify it, and push it onto other social media platforms, Prigozhin will be able to remain both in the public eye and relevant.
  2. It is still not really clear which parts of Wagner are being separated. What is clear is this was a fight between the GRU, which we know from Bellingcat reporting in 2020 combined with Putin’s admission by video earlier this week established Wagner PMC with Prigozhin as its head as a deniable front group – and the MOD and, most likely, the FSB. Stanovaya suggests that this includes Wagner’s activities in Africa and Syria as well as Ukraine and Russia. The problem is that there is no indication from the past 16 months that the MOD and the FSB is able to actually run any forms of operation at scale. If Stanovaya’s suggestion is correct, business may go on as usual with just a new chain of command. But it may also cause huge chunks of Russia’s geostrategic regional campaigns to collapse. If you – Shoigu, Gerasimov, the FSB – cannot actually effective manage an invasion in a neighboring country, that may not be an indicator of potential success in countries on continents thousands of miles away.
  3. My expectation is that if a move is made to actually eliminate Prigozhin and, perhaps, other senior Wagner PMC and Concord Management Services officials and personnel, that it will be through the freelancing of competing elements with the SVR and FSB. Buzzfeed News did a great job delineating and explaining all of this in its seven part series on Russia’s wetwork program.
  4. As we’ve covered a number of times since the genocidal re-invasion began, it is clear that Putin is not being provided with timely, accurate information he needs to know. Rather he is being provided what various officials think he wants to hear or what they think will advance their own agendas. So in that respect I agree with Stanovaya’s conclusion that this is now going on. Where we differ is that I’ve thought it has been going on for a very long time.
  5. I can’t speak to her fifth point other than to say its interesting and something to pay attention to.

Speaking of Bellingcat, they working with Scripps News Service have published a visual investigation into the battle damage from Prigozhin’s revolt:

Samual Bendett of the Center for Naval Analysis and the Center for a New American Security has posted an interesting thread on logistics problems in Russia’s drone production sector. First tweet from the thread, then a copied and pasted machine translation of the actual Russian language Telegram post, and then the rest from the Thread Reader App.

1/ THREAD on the bureaucratic and logistical issues encountered by Russian drone developers, especially those who wish to build their UAVs for the military – from a Russian-language Telegram channel. Main points below. https://t.co/H7Wq2irBAG pic.twitter.com/fS1q20kz2A

— Samuel Bendett (@sambendett) June 28, 2023

UAV Explorer
Forwarded from UAV developer
Approximately the same situation in the drone industry. If an official comes running to a team of developers or assemblers with a promise of support and a green light at all levels, the team is baptized and asks not to. Because the team knows that the official does not understand what to do next at all. He basically does not know how to organize production and what the “green light” should mean in practice. And also, why all of a sudden, before his appearance, the world was different …

As soon as work begins with him, he begins to strictly demand deadlines, but he cannot arrange payment for the work, and in general decide who will pay and how. Why does an autopilot developer need to pay 200 if the average for the region is 45?! Why can’t you hire an IT specialist “sites to order” to make a drone? After all, he set up Windows for us and is generally a very spherical fellow!

If the official is truly brilliant and was able to solve the previous issue, everything will run into an aunt in the accounting department, who will ask for an agreement with the Chinese and payment to the Savings Bank. And if they are not there, she does not know what to do and in general this is your problem, she is a busy person.

And even if you find an intermediary who, according to the overprice, will issue Chinese purchases in accordance with all the rules, you will run into the premises and workers, because from the available there will be a dilapidated fund in the outskirts, with rats in the basement.

This is a true story, by the way .

And that’s why those who really do something, refuse to help. They organize themselves, make their own products, find convenient areas and raw materials. At least two teams have gathered through our channel!
Volunteers collect money and take products to the front. The system is organized and operates in parallel with the state and beyond it. Yes, not without flaw and theft, but we don’t know how much that free old fund cost the budget, right? ;)

It’s no joke, but at least half of the intelligence of the entire front (mavics) is provided by private traders! Not thanks to, but in spite of the state with its customs and prohibitions at all levels!

There were personalized tanks and planes in the Second World War, but I don’t remember the type of equipment that civilian rear services would have provided entirely and on their own initiative to the front.

And those who are tied to this parallel system avoid contact with the gosukha.

And the state sees and understands this. He sees this as a threat (demonstration of someone else’s effectiveness) and a competitor. Therefore, the last few months have been diligently and methodically crushing the developers for themselves, where the developments are dying in the web of bureaucracy, and the developers are slaughtering this rotten business.

I talked a lot with those who “left”, and so there were very few who fled from the regime there. The bulk stupidly outgrew the surrounding management.

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Explaining everything with apathy is easier than digging a little deeper. There is just “us” and “they”. They have squabbles there. What’s the matter with us? We take seats in the auditorium, buy popcorn. Complete alienation of the people from power. Rallies on orders and for money. Nothing real…
2/ “If a Russian official comes running to a team of drone developers or assemblers with a promise of support and a “green light” at all levels, the team get very concerned and asks that official not to interfere with its work. Because…” 
3/ …”the team knows that this official does not understand what to do next. He basically does not know how to organize drone production and what the “green light” should mean in practice.” 
4/ “As soon as this team starts working with the official, he begins to demand strict deadlines, but he cannot arrange payment for the work and to decide who will pay for work and how. If the official is truly brilliant and was able to solve the previous (payment) issue…” 
5/ “…everything will still hinge on some (older woman) in accounting, who will ask for an agreement with the Chinese (for parts) and payment to Sber (Savings Bank). And if these payment arrangements don’t exist yet, she doesn’t know what to do and its not her problem.” 
6/ “And even if you find an intermediary who will issue Chinese purchases in accordance with all the rules, you will run into the issue with the building for work, which will be a dilapidated wreck on the (city/town) outskirts, with rats in the basement.” 
7/ “This is a true story, by the way. And that’s why those who really do something, refuse the help. They organize themselves, make their own products, find testing areas and raw materials. Volunteers collect money and take products to the front on their own.” 
8/ “The system is organized and operates in parallel with the state and beyond it. Sure, there are some flaws and theft, but still… More than half of ISR across the entire front is provided by private volunteers via DJI Mavics.” 
9/ “Not thanks to, but in spite of the state with its customs and prohibitions at all levels! And those who work in this parallel system avoid contact with the state, which sees and understands this. It sees this as a threat (demonstration of someone else’s effectiveness) and a… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…
10/ “Therefore, for the past few months, the state (and MOD) has been diligently and methodically crushing such (small-scale) private enterprises, where drone/UAV developments are dying in the web of bureaucracy, and the developers are leaving this rotten business in the end.” 
12/ Sometimes its not the “heavy hand of the state” that interferes with these volunteers – sometimes its the private sector that does that, such as this story by “Project Archangel” talking about their drone center outside of Moscow. Key points below : https://t.co/JXGwURXqy7t.me/projectArchang…

Проект «Архангел». Создание БПЛА.Короткий рассказ о 5 колонне в тылу В мае волонтерский проект «Архангел», который занимается сборкой fpv дронов и обучением пилотов, обратился к руководству аэродрома «Мячково», с предложением об ар…https://t.me/projectArchangel/1060
13/ “In May, the Archangel volunteer project, which assembles FPV drones and trains pilots, approached the management of the Myachkovo airfield with a proposal to rent a two-story house on the territory of the airfield to train volunteer UAV pilots for Ukraine combat.”
14/ “Project “Archangel” is a non-commercial project, it exists with sponsor support and with the help of caring people, the volunteers are trained free of charge. Volunteers agreed in advance with airport manager to rent the building for 250,000 rubles a month.” 
15/ “Unexpectedly, a couple of days before the volunteers arrived, they volunteers were told the rent was cancelled without explanation. Through lengthy negotiations (thanks to the efforts of the Lyubertsy administration, and even representatives of the Ministry of Defense), the… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…
16/ “Because of this, the volunteers had to urgently rent a mini-hotel for 60 beds and pay daily for the services of a transport company to and from the airport. It would seem thats the end of the story: the UAV school operators got into the building, volunteers bought equipment,… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…
17/ “But a few days after their arrival, the airfield authorities forbade the trainees to wear military camouflage and practice drone operation on the field that is on the airport territory. Volunteers also complied with this requirement.” 
18/ “But the sabotage by the Myachkovo airport administration did not end there: despite the official permission from the Federal Air Transport Agency for UAV flights the director’s order actually blocked the work of the FPV pilot school.” 
19/ Each of the trainees knows where he will serve (in Ukraine) after training. And in Ukraine combat, FPV drone operators are very welcome. It is extremely difficult to explain the behavior of the airfield management – perhaps Russian counterintelligence can look into this.

That’s enough for tonight!

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There’s no new Patron tweets or videos, nor are there any new Ukrainian Army Cats & Dogs tweets. So here is some adjacent material from UAnimals:

Evacuating farm animals is such a challenge 🐴🐑🐐🐄 We've already showed you how we transported horses, but we also evacuated other animals from the same farm. The owner asked us to evacuate animals because the town is under constant fire😢 Wishing the animals peace in Poltava🙏 pic.twitter.com/zDJ7RWHMsq

— UAnimals.ENG 🇺🇦 (@UAnimalsENG) June 29, 2023

A sanctuary for many horses evacuated from Kharkiv region 🐴
Now the horses enjoy the quiet rural area of Poltava region.
Yesterday, we supported the horse farm by fulfilling their request for a brushcutter so that they can save money on hay in summer 💚 pic.twitter.com/Mr8etLYaxu

— UAnimals.ENG 🇺🇦 (@UAnimalsENG) June 28, 2023

The baby squirrel was rescued by concerned people. The little one barely moved, and vets put a lot of effort to reanimate it. Then, they passed it to our Wild Animals Rescue Centre, where Natalia Popova is to take care of it. Now we have 1 grown and 3 baby squirrels🐿🐿🐿️🐿️ pic.twitter.com/t7SJ8Ru7Uq

— UAnimals.ENG 🇺🇦 (@UAnimalsENG) June 27, 2023

This is how Natalia Popova feeds baby squirrels at the Wild Animals Rescue Centre 🐿🐿🐿
All 3 of them are recovering and growing stronger with each day💚 pic.twitter.com/aapjZHaEEZ

— UAnimals.ENG 🇺🇦 (@UAnimalsENG) June 28, 2023

Have you ever adopted a pet? Share your stories!
Sasha and Sonik adopted "the wildest" dog from Hostomel's shelter, and it turned out to be the best decision. At first, Lima the dog would only leave the room to eat and didn't allow anyone to pet her. The new owners were patient,… pic.twitter.com/rfU712AsQw

— UAnimals.ENG 🇺🇦 (@UAnimalsENG) June 27, 2023

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Have you ever adopted a pet? Share your stories!
Sasha and Sonik adopted “the wildest” dog from Hostomel’s shelter, and it turned out to be the best decision. At first, Lima the dog would only leave the room to eat and didn’t allow anyone to pet her. The new owners were patient, and now, after a couple of months, Lima is the happiest and smartest little dog they could wish for❤️

Reunion with the dog which lost after the explosion of Kakhovka’s HPP ❤️‍🩹
Our volunteer has recently evacuated animals from a village in Kherson to our Rescue Centre. Then Olha, desperate to find her dog, called us, and her description matched the dog we evacuated! ♥️ pic.twitter.com/9AGIa87zVf

— UAnimals.ENG 🇺🇦 (@UAnimalsENG) June 26, 2023

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