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We can’t confuse what’s necessary to win elections with the policies that we want to implement when we do.

When they say they are pro-life, they do not mean yours.

Giving in to doom is how we fail to fight for ourselves & one another.

Is it negotiation when the other party actually wants to shoot the hostage?

Dear Washington Post, you are the darkness now.

I like political parties that aren’t owned by foreign adversaries.

Only Democrats have agency, apparently.

Fundamental belief of white supremacy: white people are presumed innocent, minorities are presumed guilty.

Giving up is unforgivable.

One way or another, he’s a liar.

Disappointing to see gov. newsom with his finger to the wind.

They don’t have outfits that big. nor codpieces that small.

Nothing worth doing is easy.

Hey hey, RFK, how many kids did you kill today?

Republicans don’t want a speaker to lead them; they want a hostage.

At some point, the ability to learn is a factor of character, not IQ.

They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!

Good lord, these people are nuts.

Oppose, oppose, oppose. do not congratulate. this is not business as usual.

There are a lot more evil idiots than evil geniuses.

Let’s delete this post and never speak of this again.

This country desperately needs a functioning fourth estate.

Be a wild strawberry.

Giving in to doom is how authoritarians win.

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Late Night Open Thread: Zuck Taunts ‘the Walrus’

by Anne Laurie|  August 8, 20231:51 am| 78 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Open Threads, Tech News & Issues, Schadenfreude, social media

The Meta PR team is doing a great job with Zuck’s posts. pic.twitter.com/WVy0OIai5N

— Paris Marx (@parismarx) August 6, 2023

Zuckerberg 'not holding breath' over Musk cage fight https://t.co/74JgZH6kV7

— BBC News Technology (@BBCTech) August 6, 2023

The mid-life crisis hits some harder than others. One man may choose to ‘get fighting fit’; another may use what he perceives as his personal strengths to start throwing big talk about his huge stacks. From NYMag, “What We Know About Musk and Zuck’s Stupid (and Probably Pretend) Fight”:

Zuckerberg says he is ready, but Musk is wavering
After a good bit of trash talk and social media stunts in June, the fight prospect cooled off in July. But the matter was revived the first weekend in August when Musk tweeted that he was “preparing for the fight” and that all proceeds from the event, which would be live-streamed on Twitter, would go to charity for veterans…

Why is Elon Musk doing this?
For years now, Mark Zuckerberg has wanted to buy Twitter, even offering a bid for the nascent social media platform back in 2008. In recent days, he has been saying Twitter isn’t living up to its potential, telling MIT researcher and podcaster Lex Fridman on June 10 that “I always thought Twitter should have a billion people using it.” The day before, The Verge reported on the Meta app Project 92. Meta’s chief product officer, Chris Cox, called it “our response to Twitter,” which would allow their many users to sign up for a “sanely run” alternative to the app Musk seems fixed on tanking…

Why is Mark Zuckerberg doing this?
If you haven’t paid attention to the Facebook founder’s wellness journey, Mark Zuckerberg has spent the past few years getting extremely jacked and learning kickboxing. It’s a classic move for billionaires. What better way is there to invest than in yourself? (It also might help him avoid a Batman’s dad type situation.) Newly minted as a jock, the 39-year-old CEO appears to be ready to do jock things like beating up a really annoying guy in his orbit…

So if it actually happens, who would win?
Musk is purportedly six-foot-one, while Zuckerberg is five-seven, giving Musk the clear height advantage. Musk also has more than a few pounds on Zuck, though that might only be an advantage for what he calls his signature move:

Late Night Open Thread: Zuck Taunts 'the Walrus'

The betting odds would be on the CEO who is younger and can do 100 pull-ups. But the real answer: the haters. The haters would win if these two chose to embarrass themselves like this.

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I would love for this to actually happen (huge huge doubt), because while Elon is "lifting weights throughout the day", Zuck built a literal Octagon in his backyard. https://t.co/Y18sBIh3Ak

— The Biden Accomplishments Guy (on Threads) (@What46HasDone) August 6, 2023

Guys as fun as the memes were it's sadly gonna be one of the fake-ass charity fights like when Holyfield 'fought' Mitt Romney.

Think Thunderlips, not Clubber Lang. https://t.co/h4xEhYEXG1

— zeddy (@Zeddary) August 7, 2023

Trump’s bone spurs revisited conveniently timed after stunt fight with Zuck. https://t.co/mhzJroszGV

— KAMALA NATION (@KamalaNation) August 7, 2023

Just daydreaming. pic.twitter.com/jzg0at2ZOR

— Jean-Michel Connard ?? (@torriangray) August 7, 2023

ETA: Oh, Lord Murphy the Trickster God…

everything I know about Elon Musk suggests that he's going to use pharma help to prep for the Zuck fight

i don't think this will make much difference to the Zuck fight but get ready for some fun hormonal Musk decision-making

— post malone ergo propter malone (@PropterMalone) August 7, 2023


(… but how will we even know the difference?)

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Judge Chutkan Not Wasting Any Time (Open Thread)

by WaterGirl|  August 7, 202311:00 pm| 107 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Trump Indictments

By 3 pm on Tuesday (that’s either today or tomorrow, depending on when you are reading this) the 2 parties have to file a joint notice of TWO dates and tines when both sides are able to attend a hearing on this.  Hearing dates/times must be on or before this Friday, August 11.

“The court will waive the requirement of Defendant’s presence.”

Translation: no, you cannot delay by saying Trump isn’t available.

Here’s Jack Smith’s nearly instant devastating response to Trump’s 5 pm filing. As Smith explains, there is no First Amendment right to publicize the discovery materials provided to defendant to help him prepare his defense. Period. https://t.co/5AjCQcP78x

— Laurence Tribe 🇺🇦 ⚖️ (@tribelaw) August 8, 2023

Here is the direct link to the PDF file of the response from Jack Smith & company.  It’s brutal, which is well-deserved.

I hope Trump ends up with a much more restrictive protective order since his attorneys and Trump have made it clear that their goal is to try this case in the media, not in a court of law, as Jack Smith likes to say.

Oh, and may I just say…

What a difference a judge makes!
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Excellent Read: The Pelosi Factor

by Anne Laurie|  August 7, 20239:30 pm| 60 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, NANCY SMASH!, Proud to Be A Democrat, Trump Indictments

The Pelosi Factor Trump’s longtime antagonist played an essential role in his historic indictment.https://t.co/pXc2zCIkDi

— FlashDancer (@MemyselfnFlash) August 7, 2023

Ankush Khardori, for NYMag — “Trump’s longtime antagonist played an essential role in his historic indictment”:

… [Y]ou cannot tell the story of Trump’s historic indictment without Nancy Pelosi. It was the then-Speaker of the House who insisted that there be a congressional inquiry following January 6. And it was the work of the select committee she fashioned that finally appears to have spurred a reluctant Justice Department to action, setting in motion a more intense phase of criminal scrutiny focused on Trump’s effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election. The resulting indictment closely tracks the select committee’s work and findings, presenting a factual narrative that traces — almost identically — the evidence presented by the committee of a sophisticated, multipronged effort by Trump to remain in power that culminated in the mayhem at the U.S. Capitol.

“I knew on January 6 that he had committed a crime,” Pelosi told me late Friday afternoon, squeezing me in for a roughly 30-minute interview at the tail end of a remarkable week in Washington…

During the Trump administration, Pelosi emerged as one of Trump’s most persistent and effective political antagonists, and the personal rancor between the two was often on public display. She went toe to toe with him in the Oval Office. She authorized the third-ever impeachment of an American president after Trump’s effort to shake down Ukraine’s president to get dirt on Joe Biden. She famously tore up Trump’s 2020 State of the Union speech while standing behind him. As Trump’s supporters began to approach the Capitol on January 6, Pelosi said that if Trump joined them, “I’m going to punch him out. I’ve been waiting for this. For trespassing on the Capitol grounds, I’m going to punch him out. And I’m going to go to jail, and I’m going to be happy.”

The rioters proceeded to ransack her office, and instead of punching Trump, who was prevented from going to the Capitol by the Secret Service, Pelosi impeached him again. To this day, Pelosi seems to get under Trump’s skin like no one else. Early Sunday morning, Trump called her “a sick & demented psycho who will someday live in HELL!”

Long before January 6 itself, Pelosi had been preparing for Trump to try to disrupt the transfer of power. “During the election, I thought, ‘He’s going to try to pull a stunt and we have to try to have as many states in the Democratic column as possible,’” she told me, contemplating the possibility that Biden’s victory might not be certified and that the House would have to move to an obscure procedure in which each state’s congressional delegation would cast a single vote to determine the next president…

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Now that Trump has been indicted over his effort to steal the election, we are in the midst of a singular moment in American history — one that will have dramatic long-term implications for our country and one that will likely be covered in history books for generations to come. The difference, of course, is that as we live through this period, we have no idea how it will end — with Trump in prison or with Trump in the White House again.

I asked Pelosi how she thought this would all end, and she struck a tentative but cautiously optimistic tone. “As we always say, it all depends on what happens at the end of the day, but you have to determine what the end of the day is. Yesterday was the end of a day. The former president of the United States was arraigned, and that was a triumph for the truth.”

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“The indictments against the president are exquisite,” Pelosi added, referring to both the latest set of charges and the earlier federal indictment over Trump’s hoarding of classified documents at Mar-a-Lago and his subsequent efforts to obstruct investigators. “They’re beautiful and intricate, and they probably have a better chance of conviction than anything that I would come up with.”

As for the prospect of a second Trump term, Pelosi immediately recoiled when I brought it up. “Don’t even think of that,” she told me. “Don’t think of the world being on fire. It cannot happen, or we will not be the United States of America.”

“If he were to be president,” she continued, “it would be a criminal enterprise in the White House.”

There was a time in American life, not that long ago, when that would have been clear hyperbole. These are categorically different times.

Much more at the link!

If you’re on social media, remember: Sharing is caring!

“I wasn’t in the courtroom of course, but when I saw him coming out of his car, I saw a scared puppy."
~ Nancy Pelosi

Legend. pic.twitter.com/5BuOH60Q7y

— Jane of the North (@JaneotN) August 7, 2023

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Open Thread & Announcing the Sunday Afternoon Legal Zoom

by WaterGirl|  August 7, 20237:55 pm| 33 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Not that there’s much happening right now related to Trump’s Attempted Coup and Unswerving Criminality, but I asked Immanentize if he would be up for doing another zoom about legal stuff.  Gracious, as always, the answer was yes!

Other legal BJ peeps – and non-legal peeps – are most welcome to participate!  This obviously includes lurkers, too!

With people on two coasts and around the world, it’s a challenge to find a good time.  We have high hopes that maybe this will be a good time for a lot of folks.

I’m really looking forward to this one.  Who’s interested?

If you’re up for joining the zoom this Sunday – either with video or just audio – please chime in below and send me an email so I can reply with the zoom link.

Sunday, August 13
3-4:30 pm Eastern time

Be there or be square.  (Did I really say that?)

Open thread!

Update: I will be sending the link closer to Sunday so that half of us don’t lose track of it by then. :-)

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War for Ukraine Day 530: Russia’s Genocidal Aerial Barrage Continues

by Adam L Silverman|  August 7, 20237:14 pm| 57 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

(Image by NEIVANMADE)

The Russians continue their genocidal bombardment of Ukraine. Today they opened up on civilian targets in Pokrovsk:

No, these aren't WWII images. It’s Russian missiles in Pokrovsk, another frontline city that Russia aims to erase. pic.twitter.com/MYQRPj9LJy

— Maria Avdeeva (@maria_avdv) August 7, 2023

Pizza place Corleone in Pokrovsk, a frequent spot for volunteers and foreign journalists, appears to be a target, much like Rio pizza in Kramatorsk. Only Corleone is located on the ground floor of the residential building. Russia was fully aware and attacked. pic.twitter.com/Kt0M1cW0Xe

— Maria Avdeeva (@maria_avdv) August 7, 2023

And Kruglyakivka:

Today, russians dropped four guided aerial bombs on the village of Kruglyakivka, Kupyansk district, destroying several homes.Two local residents, a woman and an elderly man, were killed. Five people were injured. With the methodicalness of serial killers, as today in Pokrovsk,… pic.twitter.com/jHRtp61bjO

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) August 7, 2023

Today, russians dropped four guided aerial bombs on the village of Kruglyakivka, Kupyansk district, destroying several homes.Two local residents, a woman and an elderly man, were killed. Five people were injured. With the methodicalness of serial killers, as today in Pokrovsk, russians launched a second strike just as rescuers arrived. Two of them were injured.

Perhaps, one day, never again will actually mean something.

Here is President Zelenskyy’s address from earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

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Everyone who captures the occupiers at the front speeds up freedom for Ukrainians – address by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy

7 August 2023 – 22:31

Dear Ukrainians!

A rescue operation is underway in Pokrovsk, Donetsk region. After Russian missile strikes. Iskander missiles against ordinary residential buildings. All our services are working on the scene.

Unfortunately, there are victims. There are wounded, there are casualties. My condolences to the families and friends… Unfortunately, the second missile strike resulted in the death of an employee of the State Emergency Service. Colonel Andriy Omelchenko, Deputy Head of the State Emergency Service Main Department in Donetsk region. May he always be remembered…

I would like to recognize the rescuers today. Our employees of the State Emergency Service. Those who work in different cities of Ukraine for the sake of life. To make the Russian terror lose, because lives are saved.

Employees of the State Emergency Service of Kherson region: civil protection service Sergeant Vitaliy Murzenko and civil protection service Lieutenant Volodymyr Yavtushenko. Employees of the State Emergency Service of Ukraine of Kharkiv region: civil protection service Master Sergeant Serhiy Hladkyi and civil protection service Colonel Andriy Solianikov. Employees of the State Emergency Service of Ukraine of Dnipropetrovsk region: civil protection service Sergeant Kostiantyn Poturaiko and civil protection service Captain Vitaliy Denysenko.

All of them have repeatedly participated – directly participated – in eliminating the consequences of terrorist attacks, in saving the lives of our people. And, of course, all the employees of the State Emergency Service of Ukraine in Donetsk and Luhansk regions, Zaporizhzhia and Odesa regions. I thank the entire staff of the State Emergency Service of Ukraine!

Today we have an important result for our team that deals with exchanges. 22 more men are back home in Ukraine. 20 of them are soldiers and sergeants, two are officers. They are servicemen of the Armed Forces. There are wounded among them. They were captured in different areas of the front. But now they are home. And we will do everything to bring back to Ukraine all our people who are now in Russian captivity. We remember everyone and are looking for everyone on the list of missing persons.

Fortunately, we manage to bring our people back. And it is important that this is a common task. It is a task for those who organize the exchanges: Yermak, Budanov, Malyuk, Klymenko. Thank you, guys! And the task of those who replenish the exchange fund for our country. Everyone who captures the occupiers at the front, who is active on the frontline. Each such warrior of ours speeds up freedom for Ukrainians. It is important to remember this.

The day began with a conference call. First of all, the military. A report on the situation at the front – our offensive actions, the capabilities of our movement and the dynamics of the movement. The Commander-in-Chief delivered the report.

Of course, there were reports on the supply of munitions and equipment, on our weapons production. The Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Strategic Industries. We are constantly increasing volumes! Both in supply and production. And we are constantly removing bureaucracy and making regulations more flexible. Our defense industry will reach the level that the state needs. Ukraine has this power. And I thank everyone who is working on Ukrainian production for this power!

Frontline. I would like to mention the Bakhmut direction. The 3rd and 5th separate assault brigades, “Fury” assault brigade of the National Police, the 92nd separate mechanized brigade. There are successes in destroying the occupiers, important successes. I thank you, warriors!

One more thing.

August 7. Every year on this day, the world remembers Russia’s aggression against Georgia. 15 years have passed. The Russian occupation remains – this wound on the body of the Georgian state remains. Many words have already been said that if the world had been decisive back in 2008, many things would have been different. Back then already Russia should have realized that the aggressor pays the highest price for aggression. It must definitely realize this now.

When Ukraine wins this war, it will not only stop the expansion of Russia’s aggressive appetites, it will not only save other nations from what we are going through – Ukraine, Georgia, and Moldova. Our victory will return normalcy to everyone – it will end the Russian occupation.

Ukrainians stand in solidarity with the people of Georgia, and I thank all Georgian citizens who are defending freedom with us! And especially those who are fighting as part of the defense and security forces of Ukraine!

Freedom will win, Georgia will win, Ukraine will win!

Glory to Ukraine!

More on Pokrovsk:

Pokrovsk, Donetsk region.
Another war crime committed by the russians. Two missiles struck the city center. Several apartment buildings were damaged. Rescue efforts are currently underway. At least five people were killed, and thirty one were injured.
We will do everything… pic.twitter.com/9as308GiVs

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) August 7, 2023

Pokrovsk, Donetsk region.
Another war crime committed by the russians. Two missiles struck the city center. Several apartment buildings were damaged. Rescue efforts are currently underway. At least five people were killed, and thirty one were injured.
We will do everything possible to hold the murderers accountable for their crimes.

The city of Pokrovsk, Donetsk region. Donbas, from which Russia is trying to leave only broken and scorched stones. Two missile strikes. An ordinary residential building was hit. Unfortunately, there are victims. Rescuers and all necessary services are on the scene. The rescue of… pic.twitter.com/zsIA7dR6HR

— Volodymyr Zelenskyy / Володимир Зеленський (@ZelenskyyUa) August 7, 2023

Here’s the full text of President Zelenskyy’s tweet:

The city of Pokrovsk, Donetsk region. Donbas, from which Russia is trying to leave only broken and scorched stones. Two missile strikes. An ordinary residential building was hit. Unfortunately, there are victims. Rescuers and all necessary services are on the scene. The rescue of people continues.

We have to stop the Russian terror. Everyone who fights for the freedom of Ukraine saves lives. Everyone in the world who helps Ukraine will defeat the terrorists together with us. Russia will be held accountable for everything it has done in this terrible war.

I and so many others stayed at Druzhba, conducted interviews at Corleone & filed stories from both countless times over the years. They’re among the few places operating near the frontline. No doubt they were targeted by Russia because journalists & military have frequented them. pic.twitter.com/gQwPmxUUqr

— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) August 7, 2023

Kherson:

russian terrorists continue to destroy Kherson. They hit a nine-story residential building at midnight during another artillery barrage. Also, several private houses were destroyed. At the moment, one person is reported dead. At least seven people are injured. pic.twitter.com/QPWeHoZelb

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) August 7, 2023

Robotyne:

Fighters of the 47th Brigade shot down a russian Ka-52 helicopter near the village of Robotyne, Zaporizhia region. pic.twitter.com/KVw2wfmAY4

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) August 7, 2023

Twenty-two more Ukrainian POWs have been returned home:

22 Ukrainian servicemen, including two officers, are coming back home after being released from russian captivity.
Welcome back, brave warriors! pic.twitter.com/ro2Am0gAZ2

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) August 7, 2023

A hero that has returned from hell. pic.twitter.com/mX6ddrChGe

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) August 7, 2023

The Financial Times is reporting that German Chancellor Olaf Scholz is doing his Hamlet impression again.

Germany’s chancellor Olaf Scholz is under mounting pressure to provide cruise missiles to Ukraine to bolster its struggling counteroffensive against Russian forces.

Two politicians in Scholz’s Social Democrat party (SPD), which has often been more cautious than its coalition partners, have recently joined a chorus of voices calling for Swedish-German made Taurus missiles to be sent to Kyiv.

“The counteroffensive is faltering, the Ukraine does not have a significant air force to support it,” Andreas Schwarz, an SPD member of parliament, told the German news outlet Der Spiegel on Sunday. “That leaves only guided missiles such as Taurus cruise missiles, with which the Ukrainian army could overcome the minefields laid by the Russians and recapture territory.”

His comments were cautiously echoed by Nils Schmid, foreign policy spokesman for the SPD in parliament, who told German newspaper Tagesspiegel that he did not “rule out” supplying systems such as Taurus in conjunction with the US.

Schmid warned, however, that it was vital to ensure that Ukrainian soldiers — rather than their German counterparts — could do target programming, otherwise it would bring Berlin “dangerously close to direct participation in the war”.

Further supplies of cruise missiles would offer a boost to the Ukrainian counteroffensive, launched in June, that has made only moderate progress towards its aim of liberating Russian-occupied far eastern and southern regions.

Equipped with German Leopard tanks and other Nato-grade weaponry provided by western allies, Ukraine’s infantry has struggled to break through heavily mined and fortified Russian positions.

In a bid to soften the ground, Ukraine’s air force bombers have used British Storm Shadow long-range cruise missiles, provided earlier this year, to repeatedly strike Russian weapons arsenals, fuel depots, command posts and logistical infrastructure including bridges.

Moscow has responded in recent weeks by heavily targeting air bases with air strikes in an attempt to counter the threat posed to its faltering full-scale invasion by the long-range missiles.

Last month, France announced that it would follow the lead of the UK by supplying Ukraine with Scalp missiles, the French version of the Storm Shadow, which have a range of about 250km.

But Germany, along with the US, has been more hesitant, with policymakers in Berlin fearing the risk of escalation that would come with supplying a weapon with a range of more than 500km that could be used to strike Russian territory.

Germany’s defence minister Boris Pistorius said last week that supplying Taurus missiles, which are produced by a joint venture between Germany’s MBDA and a subsidiary of Sweden’s Saab, “is not our top priority right now”.

He said that Germany, which is the second-largest supplier of weapons to Ukraine in absolute terms after the US, was not the only country to be hesitant about such a move, pointing to reticence from Washington. He added that German missiles had a “special reach”.

The debate has drawn comparison in Germany with the long and painful discussion about dispatching German-made Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine, which reached a peak in January this year after months of deliberations that drew frustration from Berlin’s international allies.

Schwarz said that he now had a sense of “déjà vu”, adding: “As with the tank issue, we are now refusing to hand over important equipment that will probably be delivered in the end.”

He argued that Ukraine could already target Russian territory with Mars and Himars artillery systems that have been delivered by Germany — but had not yet done so.

What could go wrong? This:

Depending on how many Storm Shadow/SCALP-EG ALCMs 🇺🇦 has received, and assuming Ukraine maintains its current rate of consumption of about 75 missiles per month, it will run out of long-range strike capabilities somewhere between October 2023 and January 2024. 1/ pic.twitter.com/BoZxt9eHwO

— Fabian Hoffmann (@FRHoffmann1) August 7, 2023

Yet, the United States is still deliberating about ATACMS and the German Minister of Defense openly says Taurus is not a priority. This is assessment is simply wrong. You cannot effectively fight a war of attrition in the 21st century without access to long-range strike weapons.

— Fabian Hoffmann (@FRHoffmann1) August 7, 2023

The cost:

Eight years ago today, a Russian mortar killed my friend, Daniel Kasyanenko, a 19-year-old Ukrainian solider who volunteered to fight for his country after Russia first invaded in 2014.

He was only 19, but Daniel had an uncanny ability to put the war in perspective. He… pic.twitter.com/SJhzK6uknb

— Nolan Peterson (@nolanwpeterson) August 6, 2023

Eight years ago today, a Russian mortar killed my friend, Daniel Kasyanenko, a 19-year-old Ukrainian solider who volunteered to fight for his country after Russia first invaded in 2014.

He was only 19, but Daniel had an uncanny ability to put the war in perspective. He understood the toll that combat was taking on his young soul. It would have been better to go to war as an old man, he explained to me one afternoon while the sounds of Russian machine guns snarled in the distance, and bullets zapped overhead.

“At 19, now, I understand that I broke my head, I broke my understanding of life,” Daniel said. “I broke it in my 19 years. And this is really bad.”

For good luck, Daniel wore a crucifix necklace coiled around his wrist. He also kept a letter from his mother, Marina, tucked in the front pocket of his body armor vest. After seeing plenty of good soldiers die, he believed these talismans were the secrets to his survival. No other explanations made sense.

Daniel was committed to the war and believed he was fighting for his country’s independence from Russia. He also understood that he was spending the formative years of his manhood in a place where everything that life typically promised a young man — love, family, career — could be snuffed out in an instant.

“I want to get out of these battles,” he told me. “I want to forget it. But I can’t.”

I embedded with Daniel’s unit, and before leaving the front lines we pledged to stay in touch. Over a steady correspondence of text messages in the weeks that followed, we talked about the possibility of him visiting America one day, which was his dream.

Then one day, about a month after I’d returned to Kyiv, I received a somewhat disjointed note from Daniel. He’d been injured by a mortar, he told me, and had what the Ukrainian medics called a “brain contusion,” which probably meant he had a concussion, or more likely, a traumatic brain injury.

In any case, Daniel’s commanders gave him a few weeks’ leave in his hometown of Zaporizhia, located only a three-hour car ride from the front lines.

During his convalescence, Daniel’s parents, Marina and Konstantin, advised their son against returning to the war. And the truth is, he didn’t have to go back.

After Russia invaded Ukraine in the summer of 2014, Daniel, like so many Ukrainians at the time, had joined one of a number of irregular “volunteer battalions.”

Formed by the will of the Ukrainian people rather than government diktat, this coalition of civilian militias generally comprised young men and women with little or no military experience, including both native Russian and Ukrainian speakers from all regions of Ukraine. These volunteers learned how to be soldiers while in combat; a baptism by fire they jokingly referred to as “natural selection” boot camp.

Daniel, who was only 19 when he volunteered for war, went straight from living under his parents’ roof to living under Russian artillery and sniper fire. There was no basic training, no military academy, no time at a firing range, even, to serve as an interlude. It was like a jump cut in a film — straight from boyhood to war. To stay alive, he shadowed the older, more experienced soldiers, learning lessons they had themselves learned the hard way. And when he saw others die, Daniel would learn from their mistakes, too.

“It was crazy,” his mother, Marina, later told me. “None of the soldiers said no. They all went straight to the war no matter how young they were.”

While Daniel was home on convalescent leave, Marina would often watch her son sleeping. He’d changed so much in those few months he’d been away, she remarked. His hands, in particular, seemed to have aged decades.

“He went to war as a boy and came back as a wise old man,” she said.

On the day he was to return to war, Marina begged her son not to leave.

“Mom, I have to go back,” Daniel answered. “I have to go back to my friends. It’s my duty.”

Two weeks later, a soldier arrived at the door to the Kasyanenkos’ apartment. At the very first knock, both Konstantin and Marina feared something was wrong.

“Are you Daniel’s parents?” the soldier asked.

They said yes.

“There is no Daniel anymore,” the soldier said.

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Monday Evening Open Thread: When Stubborn Stupidity Is Its Own Defense

by Anne Laurie|  August 7, 20236:19 pm| 113 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Republicans in Disarray!, Trump Indictments, Schadenfreude

Leopards, faces, things of that nature. https://t.co/RfSV9NNFX6

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) August 5, 2023

It is a fact universally acknowledged — possibly even by Mrs. Pence — that TFG’s handlers picked ‘Mike Dense’ as their VP candidate because he was too dumb to question any shifty behavior, or to get ideas about trying his own little grifts. This character trait inadvertently served Pence well during the Jan6 insurrection; when surrounded by his Secret Service agents hustling him away from a mob literally calling for his murder, Pence retreated to repeating the rules he’d so painstakingly memorized. He became, for a brief shining moment, the hero we needed, if not the hero we wanted.

Nothing that has happened since that memorable day has been able to shift Pence’s stance, because stupid is also usually stubborn. He knows that he was rewarded for keeping his oath on January 6th; he retains a bedrock certainty that only a Republican should be allowed to be President. Ergo, the previous Repub President having failed a test so simple even Mike Pence could pass it, surely the Official Presidential Backup — Mike Pence — should be rewarded with the 2024 nomination. How can these misguided voters fail to understand what is so clear to Mike Pence?

Ed Kilgore, at NYMag — “Pence Is Finally Embracing His Role As January 6 Spoiler”:

… [Pence] has sought to take partial credit for the alleged accomplishments of the Trump-Pence administration without much discussing its bizarre culmination on January 6. The video with which he launched his candidacy in June did not so much as mention the Capitol riot or even Trump, for that matter. It’s rather like a Hall of Fame player writing an autobiography that doesn’t mention baseball. But since well before his formal announcement, Pence has trudged along the campaign trail earnestly trying to recapture his pre-Trump persona as an extremely orthodox conservative pol with a particularly close relationship to the Christian right.

Unfortunately for the would-be president from Indiana, the MAGA faithful did not for a moment forget his “betrayal” of Trump on January 6, and in the early stages of the 2024 contest, Pence has been in the unenviable position of being both universally known and heartily disliked among Republican voters. A recent New York Times–Siena national survey of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents showed Pence with a favorability ratio of 40 percent favorable to 45 percent unfavorable (by contrast, Trump’s ratio is 75 percent to 21 percent). The same poll showed Pence as the preferred candidate of just 3 percent of GOP voters. And a just-released Times-Siena poll of Iowa, where you’d think Pence would find succor in the state’s large conservative Evangelical population, gave him just 3 percent there as well…

So now this strikingly unsuccessful presidential candidate — who is struggling to join the seven rivals who have already qualified for the first GOP debate later this month — has become one of the stars of the MAGA-despised law-enforcement effort to put Donald Trump behind bars…

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Mike Pence thinks it’s strong and appealing to remain open to voting for someone who tried to overthrow the Constitution (which Mike Pence says he values) and take the life of Mike Pence (which Mike Pence presumably values as well.)

— Nicholas Grossman (@NGrossman81) August 6, 2023

Pretty clear that the kicker in this case will come down to a Vice President willing to testify and a President who absolutely won't testify. https://t.co/0v2CZHztoc

— zeddy (@Zeddary) August 6, 2023

he’s obviously going to testify and I don’t really understand why people are dunking on him for saying what boils down to “I am obviously going to testify but they haven’t called me yet” https://t.co/yvMoknV6JI

— post malone ergo propter malone (@PropterMalone) August 7, 2023

There are probably more Republican primary voters who sincerely want to hang Mike Pence (if they could get away with it) than there are ones who want to vote for him. https://t.co/ZgFpPLehms

— Eric Kleefeld (becoming a parody of myself) (@EricKleefeld) August 5, 2023

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So Much Legal News Open Thread

by WaterGirl|  August 7, 20232:23 pm| 161 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Trump Indictments

Trump counter claim in E. Jean Carroll case dismissed.

Another loss, if anyone is keeping score. https://t.co/9CX2s9otu8

— Just Jack (@7Veritas4) August 7, 2023

The J6 case in D.C.

NEW: Donald Trump has previewed several arguments for relocating his latest — and gravest —criminal case away from Washington, D.C.

Judge Chutkan has, in recent Jan. 6-related rulings, rejected all of them. https://t.co/LWjHNfKvqU

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) August 7, 2023

People in the know seem to think this is a big deal.  Here’s Andrew Weissmann:

Why Cannon latest order is so off base: 1512 (i) permits an obstruction case to be brought where the crime, OR the intended effect on the investigation, occurred. And a grand jury may investigate if there is simply a good faith basis for either in the grand jury's district. https://t.co/pbRVn5hFWw

— Andrew Weissmann (weissmann11 on Threads/Insta)🌻 (@AWeissmann_) August 7, 2023

Judge Cannon clearly shows her ignorance (bias? both?); the obstruction crimes that were investigated are charges that could have been brought in FLA or in DC and thus could be investigated in either district. And there was conduct that is alleged to have occurred outside FLA. https://t.co/KIGkUka59J

— Andrew Weissmann (weissmann11 on Threads/Insta)🌻 (@AWeissmann_) August 7, 2023

And here’s the (fake) Jack Smith in response to the news above:

Oh Aileen, you’ve stepped in it now.

— Just Jack (@7Veritas4) August 7, 2023

Can someone explain why that is a big Joe Biden deal?

Ooh, I like the sound of this.

Why I think Trump will be sentenced to jail in the DC case: https://t.co/KLXWFZMIGB

— Andrew Weissmann (weissmann11 on Threads/Insta)🌻 (@AWeissmann_) August 4, 2023

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