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Republican speaker of the house Mike Johnson is the bland and smiling face of evil.

Historically it was a little unusual for the president to be an incoherent babbling moron.

Prediction: the gop will rethink its strategy of boycotting future committees.

Humiliatingly small and eclipsed by the derision of millions.

They punch you in the face and then start crying because their fist hurts.

Live so that if you miss a day of work people aren’t hoping you’re dead.

Human rights are not a matter of opinion!

The republican caucus is covering themselves with something, and it is not glory.

Yeah, with this crowd one never knows.

If you cannot answer whether trump lost the 2020 election, you are unfit for office.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

The worst democrat is better than the best republican.

It may be funny to you motherfucker, but it’s not funny to me.

Whatever happens next week, the fight doesn’t end.

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

Hey hey, RFK, how many kids did you kill today?

Technically true, but collectively nonsense

So very ready.

Fuck these fucking interesting times.

At some point, the ability to learn is a factor of character, not IQ.

No one could have predicted…

“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.”

Let the trolls come, and then ignore them. that’s the worst thing you can do to a troll.

Shut up, hissy kitty!

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‘Something Like Hope’ (Open Thread)

by Betty Cracker|  August 9, 20238:32 am| 224 Comments

This post is in: Music, Open Threads

The Indigo Girls are having a moment because their most famous song is featured at a key scene in the Barbie movie. Here are Indigo Girls Amy Ray and Emily Saliers performing their then-new hit on the Letterman show in 1989:

NYT columnist Lydia Polgreen talks about what it means to witness the renewed relevance of a song that was a staple of one’s “angsty adolescence” — and why the Indigo Girls remain on her playlist well into middle age (gift link):

They are, as the kids would say, cringe.

Cringe: the ultimate insult of our era. It implies a kind of pathetic attachment to hope, to sincerity, to possibility. Cringe is not exclusively female; the musical “Hamilton,” written by a man, Lin-Manuel Miranda, is definitely cringe. But in these hardened times, it implies a kind of naïveté that so often gets coded as feminine, a silly belief that human beings, through sincere effort, might actually improve themselves and the world. That things might, somehow, get better. Feminism? Definitely cringe. And if feminism is cringe, then lesbians are double cringe. And the Indigo Girls? We’re talking cringe squared…

We live in dangerous, frightening times. We’ve been through a pandemic and stared down a global recession. Rights that seemed secure — to control our bodies, to marry whom we love, to vote — are under attack. We’re once again reminded of the ever-present threat of nuclear war and confrontation with China. It’s likely the hottest summer in recorded history. You can respond to these circumstances with fatalistic cynicism. Or you can meet them with a sense of possibility, grounded in reality, loosely tethered to something like hope.

To me, this is what the Indigo Girls are all about. Sincerity coupled with wisdom, which is a recipe for something durable: solidarity. A sense that we are in this together. The Indigo Girls are great. Cringe but true. That’s because the kernel of who we are is cringe. That is what it means to be open to the world. To be open to the possibility of a future different from who you are now. When we are young, we feel that way because we don’t know any better. Eventually you get to a place where you know all the ways it can go wrong and feel open anyway.

We could all use something like hope these days, and it’s there if you look for it. I saw it last night in Ohio. I’m even seeing it in Florida!

Open thread!

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Ohio Issue 1 Results: Polls Closing at 7:30 pm

by WaterGirl|  August 8, 20237:21 pm| 96 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Political Action, Politics, This Fight Is For Everything

Ohio Voters had their last chance to cast their votes today – hopefully NO on Ohio Issue 1 – with polls closing at 7:30 pm Eastern time.

GOOD REASONS TO VOTE NO ON ISSUE 1.  I can’t see a single reason to vote Yes unless you’re an authoritarian prick.

Here’s what it does:

  • Require 60% of voters to pass a new constitutional amendment, instead of a simple majority of 50% plus one.
  • Require citizens who want to place an amendment on the ballot to collect signatures from at least 5% of voters from the last gubernatorial election in all 88 counties, instead of the current 44.
  • Eliminate a 10-day cure period that allows citizens to replace any signatures deemed faulty by the secretary of state’s office.

Come on, Ohio!   Results:

Columbus Dispatch

Ohio Live Results

Ohio Secretary of State live results

Are there folks on twitter to follow who particularly know Ohio?

 

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War for Ukraine Day 531: Ukraine’s Lightning Strikes No More

by Adam L Silverman|  August 8, 20237:15 pm| 33 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

A few times over the past several months I’ve included videos and descriptions about a Ukrainian Non-Commissioned Officer with the call sign Lightning. Ukraine’s Lightning will strike no more:

She was assigned the call sign "Lightning" because she could come to the aid of soldiers as quickly as a bullet or a fragment of a projectile.
Sergeant Daria Filipyeva was killed in the line of duty. She was awarded a "Steel Cross" by our Commander-in-Chief.
Dasha, a bright and… pic.twitter.com/Wg7bcv7Fv5

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) August 8, 2023

She was assigned the call sign “Lightning” because she could come to the aid of soldiers as quickly as a bullet or a fragment of a projectile.
Sergeant Daria Filipyeva was killed in the line of duty. She was awarded a “Steel Cross” by our Commander-in-Chief.
Dasha, a bright and creative individual, could not stand by and watch others defend their native land. She saved dozens of lives on the battlefield, like an angel. Her light will continue to shine from the sky forever.

Here is President Zelenskyy’s address from earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

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Step by step, we are making de-occupation of Crimea more and more achievable and well-thought-out – address by the President of Ukraine

8 August 2023 – 22:43

Fellow Ukrainians!

This afternoon, rescue operations in Pokrovsk, Donetsk region, after yesterday’s missile attack by Russian terrorists have been completed. Nine people were killed. My condolences to the families and friends. 82 people were wounded. Everyone is being provided with the necessary assistance. Among the wounded are two children, boys, one of them is in serious condition. His name is Mykyta, he is only 11 years old, he is a 6th grade pupil. I wish a speedy recovery to everyone who suffered from this yet another Russian atrocity. There were several missile strikes. The second strike took place when the rescue operation began. This is a deliberate decision of the terrorists to cause the greatest pain and damage. And Russia will bear maximum responsibility for this – no matter how the events unfold, there must be sentences against the terrorists.

Today I would like to recognize the participants of this rescue operation in Pokrovsk. Those who proved themselves most active in helping people. These are civil protection service Senior Lieutenants Andriy Samusin and Oleksandr Shylo, and civil protection service Colonel Vyacheslav Filiushyn. National Police officers Lieutenant Oleksandr Chivenkov and Lieutenant Colonel Volodymyr Nikulin. I am especially grateful to all the medics working for people in Pokrovsk and other cities of Donetsk region, and today I would like to recognize feldsher of Myrnohrad Kateryna Zhelezniak and surgeon of Pokrovsk hospital Ihor Klimov. Thank you! I am grateful to everyone who saves lives and eliminates the consequences of Russian strikes.

Today I spoke with Prime Minister of the Netherlands Mark Rutte, and the key issue in our conversation was the protection of people, protection from Russian occupiers. We discussed in detail how to reinforce our warriors on the frontline and provide greater security to our cities and villages, to our entire land. We are preparing new defense packages, and I am grateful to Mark personally and to everyone in the Netherlands – each and every one who stands with Ukraine. We are preparing to upgrade our aviation with modern aircraft, and it is the Netherlands that can become a leader in the issue of F-16s for Ukraine. It is important that the Netherlands acceded to the G7 declaration on security guarantees for our country, and we discussed how these guarantees can be specified at the bilateral level. In addition, I invited Mark, Mr. Prime Minister, to participate in the Crimea Platform Summit at the level of leaders, which will take place on August 23.

Today, I also held a meeting on the content of our return policy, specifically regarding Crimea and its reintegration. It is obvious that after the liberation of Crimea from occupation, economic opportunities, personal security for people, and a sense of real freedom, which has not been there since 2014, will return there. But all of this should not be just abstract – every detail of the de-occupation of Crimea should have a specific meaning. How exactly normal life returns. What exactly this means for Crimea and for all our people. This should be clear to everyone. Step by step, we are making the de-occupation of Crimea more and more achievable and well-thought-out.

Today I also held a meeting on the new educational season – September 1 will come soon. Parents and teachers have questions. There are various security and preparatory nuances. The meeting was attended by Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal, Deputy Prime Minister Mykhailo Fedorov, Minister of Internal Affairs Ihor Klymenko, Minister of Education and Science Oksen Lisovyi, and their plans were presented. The content is obvious: preparation of shelters, provision of textbooks, financial and organizational resources that are needed and which the state can help with. Government officials will soon present the relevant details.

And one more thing. Today, I had the honor to congratulate our warriors-signallers on their professional day and awarded the best of them. 24 people who serve Ukraine in different units and at different levels. Serve as efficiently as it is necessary. The Signal and Cyber Security Troops of Ukraine are not often talked about. But all types and branches of the troops depend on them, on the quality of their work. Because communication is one of the key resources.

And I thank everyone who serves our country well and works for the state efficiently. There must always be a result for Ukraine. Every day at the front and in the rear… Every such day – with results – brings our victory closer. Like today – with a law enforcement result for Ukraine. For the cleaning of Ukraine. We all know that our state must change, must undergo transformation. And this means that those who work for their own benefit, not for the sake of Ukraine, will not be in public office or MPs of Ukraine. Every such dealmaker will at least stand trial.

Glory to all who fight for Ukraine!

Glory to Ukraine!

Pokrovsk:

Pokrovsk: view from the window.
Viacheslav Ratynskyi / Reuters pic.twitter.com/w3eMih09LV

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) August 8, 2023

‘These attacks are meant to silence people’#Ukrainecast speaks to the FT’s Christopher Miller about Russia's ‘double tap’ missile attacks, following its latest strike on the Ukrainian town of Pokrovsk…

— BBC Sounds (@BBCSounds) August 8, 2023

The Druzhba (meaning "friendship") was one of only a handful of hotels still operating in the Ukrainian-controlled part of Donetsk region and was considered by many as being a safe distance from the front line. @IKoshiw on the latest. Death toll: 7.https://t.co/EDI3AECKO7

— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) August 8, 2023

From The Financial Times:

Russian missiles struck residential areas and a hotel popular with journalists in the eastern Ukrainian town of Pokrovsk on Monday, killing at least seven people and injuring dozens.

The Druzhba was one of only a handful of hotels still operating in the Ukrainian-controlled part of Donetsk region and was considered by many as being a safe distance from the front line.

Ukrainian authorities on Tuesday morning said seven people had been killed, including five civilians, and 67 people had been injured. Interior minister Ihor Klymenko said some of the rescuers were hit by a second round of missiles as they arrived at the scene to help extract victims from the debris.

Klymenko said search and rescue operations were resuming on Tuesday after being suspended at night “due to the high threat of repeated shelling”.

Images from the first attack, 40 minutes before the strike on the hotel, show civilians dressed in summer clothing trying to sift through the rubble of a damaged apartment block and loading the injured into ambulances.

The town has been hit intermittently since start of the full-scale invasion but never on this scale. Considered a safe distance from the frontline by many, at 41 miles from any active fighting, the hotel was often fully booked, as was the restaurant next door, one of the few that stayed open throughout the invasion. It was the main place where journalists, soldiers and volunteers would come to rest after a day in the field.

Images from Tuesday morning show that one side of the hotel, including several floors, was taken out in the attack. All the hotel windows appear to have been blown out. A rocket also smashed through the top of a nearby residential building.

The attack is reminiscent of one on a restaurant in neighbouring Kramatorsk in late June when 11 people were killed and more than 60 injured as they sat down to dinner. Both attacks make the prospect of staying in the region more difficult for journalists, aid workers and volunteers.

The hotel in Pokrovsk is the sixth hotel destroyed in the Ukrainian-controlled part of Donetsk region since the invasion began. Now just three establishments remain.

More at the link!

7 dead, 67 injured in Pokrovsk (in Donbas) as a result of a Russian missile strike.
The hellscape of Russian liberation. pic.twitter.com/MSHw5GbLOz

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) August 8, 2023

Which makes this the theater of the absurd!

This is just ridiculous. https://t.co/pzhe3C74R5

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) August 8, 2023

Especially given this reporting from CNN:

Weeks into Ukraine’s highly anticipated counteroffensive, Western officials describe increasingly “sobering” assessments about Ukrainian forces’ ability to retake significant territory, four senior US and western officials briefed on the latest intelligence told CNN.

“They’re still going to see, for the next couple of weeks, if there is a chance of making some progress. But for them to really make progress that would change the balance of this conflict, I think, it’s extremely, highly unlikely,” a senior western diplomat told CNN.

“Our briefings are sobering. We’re reminded of the challenges they face,” said Rep. Mike Quigley, an Illinois Democrat who recently returned from meetings in Europe with US commanders training Ukrainian armored forces. “This is the most difficult time of the war.”

The primary challenge for Ukrainian forces is the continued difficulty of breaking through Russia’s multi-layered defensive lines in the eastern and southern parts of the country, which are marked by tens of thousands of mines and vast networks of trenches. Ukrainian forces have incurred staggering losses there, leading Ukrainian commanders to hold back some units to regroup and reduce casualties.

“Russians have a number of defensive lines and they [Ukrainian forces] haven’t really gone through the first line,” said a senior Western diplomat. “Even if they would keep on fighting for the next several weeks, if they haven’t been able to make more breakthroughs throughout these last seven, eight weeks, what is the likelihood that they will suddenly, with more depleted forces, make them? Because the conditions are so hard.”

A senior US official said the US recognizes the difficulties Ukrainian forces are facing, though retains hope for renewed progress.

“We all recognize this is going harder and slower than anyone would like – including the Ukrainians – but we still believe there’s time and space for them to be able make progress,” this official said.

Multiple officials said the approach of fall, when weather and fighting conditions are expected to worsen, gives Ukrainian forces a limited window to push forward.

In addition, Western officials say the slow progress has exposed the difficulty of transforming Ukrainian forces into combined mechanized fighting units, sometimes with as few as eight weeks of training on western-supplied tanks and other new weapons systems. The lack of progress on the ground is one reason Ukrainian forces have been striking more often inside Russian territory “to try and show Russian vulnerability,” said a senior US military official.

Ukraine’s armed forces chief, Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi, told US Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley that Ukrainian forces are step by step creating conditions for advancing. Zaluzhnyi added that he had told Milley that Ukraine’s defenses were steadfast.

“Our soldiers are doing their best. The enemy is conducting active assault actions in a number of directions, but is not succeeding,” Zaluzhnyi told Milley, according to a read out issued by the Ukrainian government.

Talking about the situation in the south, where Ukrainian forces have struggled to gain ground, Zaluzhnyi said, “Heavy fighting continues, Ukrainian troops step by step continue to create conditions for advancing. The initiative is on our side.”

These latest assessments represent a marked change from the optimism at the start of the counteroffensive. These officials say those expectations were “unrealistic” and are now contributing to pressure on Ukraine from some in the West to begin peace negotiations, including considering the possibility of territorial concessions.

“Putin is waiting for this. He can sacrifice bodies and buy time,” Quigley said.

Some officials fear the widening gap between expectations and results will spark a “blame game” among Ukrainian officials and their western supporters, which may create divisions within the alliance which has remained largely intact nearly two years into the war.

“The problem, of course, here is the prospect of the blame game that the Ukrainians would then blame it on us,” said a senior western diplomat.

More at the link!

I will remind everyone, again, not that you aren’t tracking, but we are expecting – and specifically our leaders and decision makers are expecting – that Ukraine make significant progress fighting under conditions that the US would never, ever fight under. No air superiority. No proper amount of ammo in reserve. Crowdsourcing everything from medical kits to technical vehicles to drones. The Ukrainians have fought the Russians to a standstill and are making hard, but incremental progress while doing a DIY interstate war. While the US and allied leadership hems and haws and trickles out the aid – in some cases for good reason because we don’t have it – and then tut tut at the Ukrainians. When the US or NATO allies are willing to fight the Russians or the PRC the way the Ukrainians are being forced to fight the Russians, then they can complain about lack of progress. I remind everyone that the US was strategically defeated in both Iraq and Afghanistan by irregular forces with largely limited material. We are really in no position to judge.

‘The UK's elections watchdog has revealed it has been the victim of a "complex cyber-attack" potentially affecting millions of voters…unspecified "hostile actors" had managed to gain access to copies of the electoral registers, from August 2021.’ https://t.co/wBVrLXWA6W

— Shashank Joshi (@shashj) August 8, 2023

Relatedly: it’s not an “attack”, unless the intruders also disrupted or damaged the data or the networks. It’s an intrusion. The distinction matters because implicit (and habitual) analogy to armed attack is fundamentally misleading. https://t.co/lKBz0yPmKV

— Shashank Joshi (@shashj) August 8, 2023

Image that, Russians attacking an electoral commission. Who would have ever imagined? Eez a puzzlement!

Here’s that polling I mentioned in comments from the Reagan Foundation:

75% of Americans say it's important to the United States that Ukraine wins the war against Russian aggression, including bipartisan supermajorities of Democrats (86%) and Republicans (71%) https://t.co/sVUa3foWFh

— Melinda Haring (@melindaharing) August 7, 2023

The excerpts regardging Ukraine:

Three-quarters of Americans say that it is important to the United States that Ukraine wins the war against Russian aggression, including bipartisan supermajorities of Democrats (86%) and Republicans (71%). Independents lag significantly behind partisans at 58%. Americans are less sure of who is currently winning the war between Russia and Ukraine, with 31% saying Ukraine, 27% saying Russia, 25% saying neither, and 17% saying that they do not know.

Overall, a strong majority (59%) of Americans support sending U.S. military aid to Ukraine, including 75% of Democrats and 50% of Republicans (with 41% opposed). Again, Independents are significantly less likely than partisans to support Ukraine aid, with 39% in favor and 39% opposed. Among Ukraine aid supporters, the most compelling reason is that standing up to Russian aggression in Ukraine will discourage Russia from invading other neighboring countries (37%). Nearly as many (30%) said the best reason for continued aid was that it is important to help protect freedom of people and sovereignty of counties wherever we can. Support for Ukraine aid has not wavered since the November 2022 Reagan National Defense Survey, which found that 57% of Americans supported aid.

Minority Opposition to Aid: Less than a third (30%) of Americans oppose sending U.S. miliary aid to Ukraine, including 41% of Republicans, 39% of Independents, and 17% of Democrats. This is consistent with our November 2022 data, which found 33% of Americans opposed to Ukraine aid. The most compelling reason to oppose aid is that we have too many unmet needs here at home to be sending billions of dollars to Ukraine, with 57% of those opposed citing this reason. The prospect of comprehensive auditing and accounting measures to ensure that the Ukrainians are using U.S. aid appropriately did not build much support among those opposed to aid. Over half (56%) said it would make no difference, while only about a quarter (27%) said it would make them more supportive of sending aid.

Worth the Cost: When asked if U.S. aid to Ukraine has been worth the cost, initially, half (50%) said yes, while 35% said no. But with a little more information, those numbers moved significantly. Respondents were told that the United States has spent roughly $24 billion on military aid to Ukraine (3% of the U.S. military’s own budget), that Ukraine remains in control of roughly 83% of its territory, and that the war has severely degraded Russia’s military power and its ability to threaten NATO allies. After learning this, the number who said U.S. aid has been worth the cost jumped to 64%, including 77% of Democrats (+12),
59% of Republicans (+18), and 46% of Independents (+5). Only 28% maintained that US aid has not been worth the cost. This demonstrates that there exists a reservoir of support among the American people across party lines for assisting the Ukrainians in their fight for freedom. Leaders can tap into that reservoir by educating their fellow Americans and providing them with the context and details of U.S. support for the Ukrainians’ defense— and its effects.

That’s enough for tonight.

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Tuesday Evening Open Thread: ‘Aspirational Asks’ and Related KKKlownery

by Anne Laurie|  August 8, 20235:54 pm| 106 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Republican Stupidity, Trump Crime Cartel, Trump Indictments

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(John Deering via GoComics.com)

 
Every little Repub legal mind wants a turn in the spotlight, for some reason…

As “aspirational ask” enters the same lexicon as “I am not a crook” John Lauro turns himself into a laughing stock. https://t.co/IQ33WkFMEK

— Jon Cryer (@MrJonCryer) August 6, 2023

technically the constitution doesn't let you be a dictator https://t.co/tfN1cxdjul

— gdp breatharian (@revhowardarson) August 6, 2023

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Holy hell the cables.

I BEG of you to consult the journalists who've seen this litigated 100s of times already on Jan6. Have @ryanjreilly explain how badly THIS VERY SAME claim went in 100s of other Jan6 trials.

Trump is no different. He's really not. https://t.co/kufr6fPRrU

— emptywheel (@emptywheel) August 6, 2023

The “diverse” population of West Virginia is 92.08% white. pic.twitter.com/xroF2AI7wj

— Andrew Wortman ?? (@AmoneyResists) August 6, 2023

John Eastman Comes Clean: Hell Yes We Were Trying to Overthrow the Government https://t.co/KaZafXY0aB via @TPM

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) August 5, 2023


Mr. Charles Pierce, at Esquire, “John Eastman Is a Clear and Present Danger”:

John Eastman would like you to know that he’s not just some guy with a law degree and a cowboy hat, and no idea what to do with either one. No, he’s a true patriot who has brought his watering can to the tree of liberty, and who is now planning to order a sweet tea from Starbucks and throw it into Boston Harbor. Josh Kovensky of TPM flagged this extended exercise in Bunker Hill cosplay from Eastman to an interviewer from the Claremont Institute (Motto: Heritage’s Bargain Bin.) And can we please now stop hearing from everyone who drank from the same kegs as Eastman when they were all in law school about what a good guy he once was. It doesn’t matter any more. He’s the guy who tried to overthrow the government, and he’s not shy about saying so. From TPM:

Klingenstein asked Eastman whether he would have acted in the same way in 1960 as he did in 2020, referencing the belief on the right that John F. Kennedy stole that year’s election from Richard Nixon. Eastman replied no, and added that the stakes of 2020 represented an “existential threat to the very survivability, not just of our nation, but of the example that our nation, properly understood, provides to the world.” The Trump 2020 lawyer went on to reference the Declaration of Independence, saying that “our founders lay this case out.” “There’s actually a provision in the Declaration of Independence that a people will suffer abuses while they remain sufferable, tolerable while they remain tolerable,” he said. “At some point abuses become so intolerable that it becomes not only their right but their duty to alter or abolish the existing government.”

Because Donald Fcking Trump lost an election? Some gears have slipped upstairs, I’m thinking…

I seem to remember something in the Declaration about “light and transient causes.” Josh Marshall reminds us that the Declaration of Independence is not a legal document. The Constitution is. And he lines up Abraham Lincoln to explain the difference between a constitutional right and a revolutionary one. In his first inaugural address, Lincoln said, “This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it.” In any case, John Eastman is a clear and present danger. Hunter’s laptop is a light and transient cause. Also a herring so red you can see it from the moon.

clearly a principled objection to prosecuting political opposition, no matter the merits of the case, from Mr Lock Her Up https://t.co/CAUmuzIYHN

— post malone ergo propter malone (@PropterMalone) August 5, 2023

If this is the legal defense that Trump's middle class supporters are paying for, in the millions, I think they should demand their money back. https://t.co/Q7LMq4xT41

— davidrlurie (@davidrlurie) August 3, 2023

Jonathan Turley is Mike Lindell with tenure. https://t.co/SfXJA0qDjV

— Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) August 5, 2023

Senator…thank you https://t.co/SBtQP1PtGW pic.twitter.com/02UOFFrEmG

— First generation home renter (@InternetHippo) August 7, 2023

If Trump is convicted his supporters will be aggrieved! Buddy, they already are. They’re mewling pissbabies who are furious that black people have some rights. There is no appeasing them.

— Jean-Michel Connard ?? (@torriangray) August 3, 2023

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Pins and Needles: Democracy On The Line Today – with Ohio Issue 1

by WaterGirl|  August 8, 20234:10 pm| 125 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Political Action, Politics, This Fight Is For Everything

This probably isn’t news to anyone who reads Balloon Juice, but everything is on the line in Ohio today.  No matter how the vote on Issue 1 comes out, this is a big Joe Biden deal, and we are going to learn a lot about how much people are paying attention.  And by people, I mean “normies”.

Polls close at 7:30 tonight.  I’ll have a post up for the Ohio results, which I imagine will start coming in pretty much right away.  Ohio peeps, is that correct?  By what time do we expect to know the results?

(Columbus Dispatch)

Ohio Voters will decide TODAY Aug. 8 special election whether they support Issue 1, a measure which would:

  • Require 60% of voters to pass a new constitutional amendment, instead of a simple majority of 50% plus one.
  • Require citizens who want to place an amendment on the ballot to collect signatures from at least 5% of voters from the last gubernatorial election in all 88 counties, instead of the current 44.
  • Eliminate a 10-day cure period that allows citizens to replace any signatures deemed faulty by the secretary of state’s office.

One look at the three changes and it seems obvious that this is not good for democracy.

I have high hopes for Ohio, but when the day for voting comes, it really hits home that you’ve done all you can and now you just have to wait to see how it turns out.  It’s a hard day.

Open thread.

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Alabama G-ddamn.

by MisterDancer|  August 8, 202311:00 am| 349 Comments

This post is in: #BLM #M4BL, Black Lives Matter, Domestic Terrorism, domestic terrorists, Justice, Kiss My Black Ass, Make The World A Better Place, Open Threads, Post-racial America, Racial Justice

(Following up on yesterday’s promise) I don’t wanna be the Black Reporter for Balloon Juice, but I think there’s unexpressed importance in the recent Alabama Asswhooping.

For those unaware: When a Black riverboat worker asked some White people to obey the laws of the place he worked, they chose violence. A very racially-charged brawl ensued.

Responses have ranged from the pride in self-defense among a number of Black folx (and White supporters), to…well, selective editing and outrage in the people you’d expect.

There’s a lot here. So I’ll focus on those eager with the “violence isn’t the answer” prompt. Those uneasy with how easy so many seem to be with the asswhuppin’. You’re right! Violence isn’t the answer to all the issues plaguing Black folx in America — much less, the issues around Reproductive Justice, or attacks on LBGTQIA+ folx, or the treatment of people with disabilities.

And yet. If we don’t all work together to resolve these issues, and the issues of so many others. If we don’t start to recognize the source of so many challenges in America…well. I mean, Dr. King said it, a few months before White violence took his life:

First, is the guilt for riots exclusively that of Negroes? And are they a natural development to a new stage of struggle? A million words will be written and spoken to dissect the ghetto outbreaks. But for a perceptive and vivid expression of culpability I would like to submit two sentences that many of you have probably heard me quote before from the pen of Victor Hugo. “If the soul is left in darkness, sins will be committed. The guilty one is not he who commits the sin but he who causes the darkness.” The policy-makers of the white society have caused the darkness. It was they who created the frustrating slums. They perpetuate unemployment and poverty and oppression. Perhaps it is incontestable and deplorable that Negroes have committed crimes, but these are essentially derivative crimes. They are born of the greater crimes of the white society.

(Emphasis mine – MD)

It’s also important to understand that “enjoying” this moment, in the Black community, isn’t carefree. It’s with the background of the weight of centuries of oppression, and the very real issues of the present moment that reflect in this brawl. In the people who almost certainly chose violence against a Black man because — in the American South, yes, but elsewhere as well — his life and liberty isn’t worth the same as them. And that some Black folx aren’t about losing any more liberty, without a literal fight.

As Joy Reid put it:

[Back in the day] There were no consequences for [White Folx] and deadly ones for us if we tried to fight back. Well that era is done and it ain’t coming back, no matter how many sundown-town fantasy songs their country singers make. Seeing Black folk come as a community to that security guard’s rescue, one guy even swimming over like Aquaman to help him, was a ‘Wakanda Assemble’ moment, in which a group of old school southern bullies effed around and found out.

Those “greater crimes” are not things that a whole group can ignore, forever. You cannot say that one side gets all the Stochastic Terrorism they want, and expect the attacked people to bend over and take it, forever.

I don’t know who needs to hear this. But I hope they do, and do so with a quickness.

I don’t wanna be the Black Reporter for Balloon Juice. I cannot be the Marginalized People Reporter for Balloon Juice. But Alabama might be a sign of things to come, if we aren’t real damn careful as a country.

 

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by Anne Laurie|  August 8, 20237:57 am| 141 Comments

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Trickle-down economics benefited big corporations and the wealthiest of Americans, but not a lot of regular folks. So, when President Biden and I took office, we decided to invest in the working people of America. pic.twitter.com/Sm15OcNO2I

— Kamala Harris (@KamalaHarris) August 7, 2023

Once again: Proud to be a Democrat!

Bidenomics is about growing the economy from the middle out — and it’s working. @JoeBiden and @KamalaHarris are delivering results for the American people.https://t.co/fMfPEiTgVo

— Madam Vice President (@Madam_President) August 5, 2023

No matter how busy my schedule gets, Sunday family dinner together is the thing I try to hold on to the most. pic.twitter.com/b443DMHEts

— Kamala Harris (@KamalaHarris) August 6, 2023

VP and SGOTUS' date night to the Beyoncé concert gets the Vogue treatment https://t.co/654FMjQBSp

— Eugene Daniels (@EugeneDaniels2) August 6, 2023

SCOOP: @VP is on track to headline more fundraisers in Q3 than anyone else in Bidenworld, including @POTUS himself.

Next stops: Martha’s Vineyard and Seattle, with more expected to be added to the schedule. https://t.co/ukehIzNHj3

— Akayla Gardner (@gardnerakayla) August 4, 2023

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… Equal and opposite reaction…

Congressional Republicans introduced a resolution to eliminate the House Office of Diversity and Inclusion. The mission of the office is to increase diversity among congressional staffers to reflect the diversity of the U.S. population. https://t.co/5oRM7tPU2M pic.twitter.com/EcySpHEHUt

— KD (@Fly_Sistah) August 4, 2023

Rep. Alex Mooney (R-W.Va.) has introduced legislation to abolish the Office of Diversity and Inclusion of the House of Representatives.

Mooney’s bill, which has no Democratic co-sponsors, comes on the heels of the passage of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), which eliminated diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) offices at the Pentagon…

The House Office of Diversity and Inclusion was created by the 116th Congress, after Democrats recaptured control of the House. It was the most diverse Congress ever elected, until the 2020 midterms.

But in a press release, Mooney called DEI efforts “the latest woke liberal method of injecting cultural Marxism into the workplace.” Mooney is a candidate for Senate, looking to take the seat held by Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.)…

The bill has several initial co-sponsors, including Reps. Troy Nehls (R-Texas), Claudia Tenney (R-N.Y.), Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.), Bob Good (R-Va.), Tom Tiffany (R-Wis.), Brian Babin (R-Texas), Andrew Ogles (R-Tenn.), Chip Roy (R-Texas), Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.), Jack Bergman (R-Mich.), Mary Miller (R-Ill.), Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.) and Ralph Norman (R-S.C.).

Even if Mooney’s bill passes in the House, it’s unlikely to pass in the Democratic-controlled Senate.

Compare and contrast pic.twitter.com/Fn9jl9B0CK

— KD (@Fly_Sistah) August 4, 2023

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