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Someone should tell Republicans that violence is the last refuge of the incompetent, or possibly the first.

The desire to stay informed is directly at odds with the need to not be constantly enraged.

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Monday Evening Open Thread: Welcome to America

by Anne Laurie|  August 28, 20235:19 pm| 52 Comments

This post is in: GOP Death Cult, Gun Issues, Open Threads, All Too Normal, All we want is life beyond the thunderdome

JUST IN: Pres. Biden calls for action "against this hate-fueled violence" in the wake of shooting at a Jacksonville Dollar General that killed three Black people. "We can't let hate prevail… silence is complicity and we're not going to remain silent." https://t.co/Q3X66W1KlT pic.twitter.com/0Dve89oUhB

— ABC News (@ABC) August 28, 2023

Meanwhile… because this reality is very badly scripted… another #activeshooter incident, this time at UNC Chapel Hill. Per the Associated Press:

An apparent shooting at the University of North Carolina’s flagship campus Monday led students and faculty to barricade themselves in dorm rooms, offices and classrooms for hours until the lockdown was lifted…

The school’s first alert was sent out just after 1 p.m. At 1:50 p.m., officials posted on X that the shelter-in-place order remained in effect and that it was “an ongoing situation.” About 40 minutes later, the school added a post saying: “Remain sheltered in place. This is an ongoing situation. Suspect at large.”

About two hours after the first alert went out, officers were still arriving in droves, with about 50 police vehicles at the scene and multiple helicopters circling over the school…

Shortly before 4 p.m., students and faculty started emerging from campus buildings, with the lockdown over.

The report of the shooting and subsequent lockdown paralyzed campus and parts of the surrounding town of Chapel Hill a week after classes began at the state’s flagship public university. The university has approximately 20,000 undergraduate students and 12,000 graduate students…

Oliver Katz, an exchange student from Copenhagen Business School in Denmark, was working out at the campus gym with friends when he got the alert on his phone. Some students crowded into the locker rooms to get away from windows while others crouched in the corners and sat on the floor, he said. They stayed there for about three hours before they were evacuated by police.

“This never happens where I’m from,” Katz said, adding that before he decided to study at UNC, it crossed his mind that school shootings were much more common in the United States. “It was intense. But I was a little surprised that other people weren’t panicking that much.”…

Thankfully — is that the right word? — suspect in custody, and no reports of random victims yet.

Practically a false alarm, if you squint a little!

Every time #activeshooter trends pic.twitter.com/cEz6SVk5f3

— X  🇺🇸♋️ (@realXanderXjork) August 28, 2023

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Cults & Campaigns (Open Thread)

by Betty Cracker|  August 28, 20234:40 pm| 136 Comments

This post is in: Elections 2024, Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity

Jon Chait at New York Mag thought DeSantis would beat Trump in the 2020 primary but admits now that possibility looks remote. He says he underestimated “the elemental bond…between the Republican base and the candidate it seems determined to nominate as president for the third straight election.”

To illustrate that bond, Chait quoted a letter from a listener that wingnut pundit/podcaster Mollie Hemingway shared about why candidates who criticize Trump are failing in the GOP primary:

Keep in mind that supporting Trump came with costs never associated with supporting Bush, McCain, or Romney. Trump supporters lost friendships. Brothers and sisters stopped talking to each other. There are parents whose children disowned them, and grandparents who will never see their grandchildren again because they stood by Donald Trump.

Every Republican has these stories. Every Republican knows Republicans who have these stories.

Attacking Trump was effectively telling every Republican who made real sacrifices that they were stupid for doing so because Trump was just a poser.

Those supporters were stupid to value Trump more than friends and families, and Trump is just a poser. But as we’ve observed around here, it’s humiliating to admit you’ve been conned. That’s what they can’t bring themselves to do — maybe even precisely because the con cost them relationships they valued.

Chait again:

It would be flattering to my prognostication to blame the failures on small things like DeSantis’s messaging choices. But I think the truth is that I made the larger error of analyzing the primary as though it were a normal party nomination, when in reality DeSantis is attempting the far more difficult task of displacing the leader of a personality cult.

In 2016, Trump dumbfounded prognosticators, who assumed the conservative base was motivated by conservatism, by adopting a series of heterodox positions without suffering the customary penalty. The apparent lesson was that Republican voters cared more about confrontational affect than policy substance. DeSantis, absorbing this conclusion, served up relentless hostility against the left, which he promised to humiliate and destroy, using authoritarian methods if necessary.

But it wasn’t mere pugilism that Republican voters turned out to crave. Trump had redefined the party’s identity around loyalty to himself. That loyalty could mean posing as a champion of gay rights and posing with a Pride flag, as Trump did just three years ago, praising China’s response to COVID, flattering Democratic leaders, or any other act that would normally be evidence of betrayal. Trump has regularly described his own appointees, whom he once lavished with praise, as pathetic losers. His fans have grown accustomed to altering their beliefs about everything and anything to conform to their leader’s ever-changing line.

DeSantis built a following in Florida based on lib-owning, which I dreaded he could replicate nationwide. But Chait makes a sound point about Trump’s frequent reversals. He senses where crowds are and reflects their hate and fear back at them — Trump’s comments on trans issues are an example of this. He admitted at one rally that it wasn’t an issue that riled people up in 2016 but does now.

DeSantis tried to turn that johnny-come-hately-lately stance against Trump via the Nazi/incel-themed video, suggesting DeSantis was hating on LGBTQ people back when Trump was welcoming Caitlyn Jenner to the ladies room at Trump Tower and posing with a Gays for Trump pride flag. But it didn’t land, and not just because the Nazi/incel memes put people off. Maybe the turnoff was related to what Hemingway’s correspondent said — it made Trump supporters feel like chumps (which, of course, they are).

Chait on what he got wrong:

The Trump cult is hardly a new development, of course. How did I miss it? My error was to assume the cult could be manufactured by political elites. George W. Bush enjoyed a robust cult following in his heyday. Conservative media figures routinely described him in terms that bordered on the religious, or pornographic, or both — he was the swaggering, clear-eyed Good Man sent by God to lead America through a decisive struggle.

The most striking aspect of the Bush cult phenomenon was how quickly it disappeared. In 2006, after the Iraq War and his failed attempt to privatize Social Security had tanked his popularity, Republican elites quickly and ruthlessly cut Bush loose. Conservative media suddenly sent out the message that Bush was not the true son of Reagan after all, but a heretic who had betrayed conservatism. Some combination of right-wing elites — Rupert Murdoch, the Republican groups convened by Grover Norquist — seemed to have its finger on the button that could turn the cult on or off.

What I took away from the experience was the belief that Republican loyalty to a single leader could be transferred quickly and easily from one object of worship to another. But what may have been true before 2016 seems to no longer hold. Murdoch spent a year overtly trying to build a DeSantis cult through his media empire, only to find the button had stopped working.

I think Chait’s making an error even now by conflating whatever Repubs felt for Bush II with a cult. I remember the gross slobbering over Commander Codpiece too, but it wasn’t in the same universe as what we’ve seen with Trump, at least not on as massive a scale. I don’t know what’s behind it, but the personal investment — the “elemental bond” — is different for reasons I will never fathom.

Open thread.

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Credit Where Credit Is Due

by WaterGirl|  August 28, 202312:28 pm| 197 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Trump Indictments

For some reason, this sentence makes me ridiculously happy!

“Trump’s legal defense is going to be a dumpster fire inside a clown car on a derailing train.”

~ Aaron Rupar

So Trump’s lawyer tells FOX her client “knows all the facts” and doesn’t need time to prep for the coup trial — while his other lawyer says he needs till April 2026 because it’s so complex. https://t.co/hyONL5NE31

— Laurence Tribe 🇺🇦 ⚖️ (@tribelaw) August 28, 2023

Also, why do all of Trump’s female attorneys look like Barbie?
(Apologies to Barbie, it’s not her fault)

Oh, and everyone probably knows already, but we have a date!
April 2026

March 4, 2024

Trial set for March 4th, 2024.

— Just Jack (@7Veritas4) August 28, 2023

PSA:  Look for a guest post from Valdivia on Tuesday early evening about the women’s soccer players in Spain.  They are standing up for all of us.

Open thread.

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GO AWAY, Idalia and DeSantis

by Betty Cracker|  August 28, 202311:47 am| 85 Comments

This post is in: How about that weather?, Open Threads, Politics, Post-racial America

FL Gov. Ron DeSantis’s sad trombone of a campaign was womp-womp-womping its way through Iowa last week and had planned to be in South Carolina today. But a racist terrorist attack in Jacksonville that killed three and a storm aiming at the state forced him off the trail and back to Tallahassee, according to WUSF:

Crises at home pose a new test for Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, whose presidential campaign travels are now up in the air as his state mourns a racially motivated shooting in Jacksonville and prepares for a tropical storm.

A day after appearing in Iowa, DeSantis was back in the state capital of Tallahassee on Sunday for a news conference on Tropical Storm Idalia. He urged Floridians to heed the advice of emergency managers. He also offered condolences and condemned the killing of three Black people by a white man who authorities say left behind a suicide note, a will, and writings with racist material.

We can’t know for sure, but it was probably the storm that prompted the governor’s return, not the racist terrorist attack. He sucks at consoling people and is notoriously extra-squirmy after violence or public outrages committed by white supremacists and antisemites, i.e., The Base. He tends to get angrier at suggestions that he should address these incidents than about the incidents themselves.

DeSantis and his awful wife did attend a Jacksonville vigil for those killed by the racist gunman. This surprised me, and I’m still weighing whether he should get credit for it or if it was a campaign stunt. But while he was speaking, he got booed by attendees until a local councilwoman stepped in to save his ass: (Orlando Sentinel)

Following services earlier in the day, about 200 people showed up at a Sunday evening vigil a block from the Dollar General store in Jacksonville where officials said Ryan Palmeter opened fire Saturday using guns he bought legally despite a past involuntary commitment for a mental health exam.

Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis — who is running for the GOP nomination for president, who has loosened gun laws in Florida and who has antagonized civil rights leaders by deriding “wokeness ” — was loudly booed as he addressed the vigil.

Ju’Coby Pittman, a Jacksonville city councilwoman who represents the neighborhood where the shooting happened, stepped in to ask the crowd to listen.

“It ain’t about parties today,” she said. “A bullet don’t know a party.”

Councilwoman Pittman’s saying that was understandable. Things were getting mighty uncomfortable, and beads of sweat were rapidly forming on Tacky O’s upper lip. But we all know there’s only one party that prioritizes guns and ammo over people. There’s only one party that is whitewashing black history, including the state’s appalling record of racist violence. So, no credit. The crowd booed the right person.

Soon-to-be Hurricane Idalia must strike the flailing campaign masterminds as a potential godsend for their broke-ass effort. The earned media is already rolling in. When I left home at 7 AM to complete my storm preparations (beer! cheese! more wine!), I turned the TV on to keep the dogs company, and when I returned, DeSantis was droning monotonously on CNN about likely downed trees and power outages.

He’ll probably get a chance to bust out the shrimper boots by Thursday.

Publix, a regional grocery chain down here, used to make hurricane cakes that were decorated with icing depicting the radar image of a storm and the slogan GO AWAY written on the side or top:

Go Away, Governor DeSantis

But some people found that in bad taste and complained, so Publix stopped making them. Then people complained about that. Tampa Bay Times columnist Stephanie Hayes defended the hurricakes today:

Lastly, and this may seem like a leap, but stay with me. I often wonder if seemingly innocuous moves like this contribute to individual apathy and extremism. A lot to put on a cake, right? But it’s already nearly impossible to shop anywhere without referencing a historical flow chart of bad corporate behavior. Is my toothpaste purchase adjacent to an insurrection? Does this tasty sub sandwich harm the LGBTQ+ community? Did I just ding the planet by expelling the fuel it takes to get to another store that might be less financially nefarious? Did ordering my toilet paper online contribute to a billionaire’s evil plot to establish a colony of space cadets on Mars? Have I eaten anything today? Where are my keys?

I am just saying, it’s not outside the realm of possibility to think that a small story concerning a dessert themed around regional weather interests might be the weight that tips an already exhausted and confused person off the scale. Why try to do the right thing when everything is wrong? Disillusioned, this person will start using the word “woke” unironically and head to the dark web, where they inevitably become radicalized and forge a campaign as the next president of these United States of America. We will all watch this person gesticulating wildly on a political debate stage sponsored by Publix as we eat plain white frosted cakes and a tropical weather event bears down on our uninsured ramshackle homes.

The defense rests. Bring back the cakes.

She’s not wrong — trying to live life in an ethical way is complicated, and extremism is an easy way out for people who can’t hack it.

Anyhoo, maybe I’ll make my own damn cake decorated with a hurricane graphic and DeSantis’s face in the middle and a slogan iced on the side that applies to both: GO THE FUCK AWAY.

Open thread.

ETA: Breaking from WaPo:

U.S. District Judge Tanya S. Chutkan has scheduled Donald Trump’s D.C. trial on charges of attempting to overturn the 2020 presidential election for March 4, 2024. A separate hearing was being held in Atlanta Monday morning to determine whether Trump’s former chief of staff, Mark Meadows, can move his election-related indictment from state to federal court. Trump is a frontrunner in the Republican 2024 presidential contest, and the D.C. trial’s starting date is the day before the Super Tuesday primaries.

H/T to valued commenter Sanjeevs for the heads-up on the ruling.

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Late Night Open Thread: The RNC Will Go to Houston in 2028…

by Anne Laurie|  August 28, 20232:33 am| 45 Comments

This post is in: 2024 Primaries, GOP Death Cult, Open Threads, Republican Politics, Schadenfreude

RNC Hosting 2028 Convention In Houston—First Non-Battleground State In Decadeshttps://t.co/5uQk3pt9cp pic.twitter.com/L2zWRt7tME

— Forbes (@Forbes) August 25, 2023

… Assuming, by that point in time, that the Republican National Convention needs a venue larger than an Idaho community center. And that Houston hasn’t been abandoned due to the Republicans’ inability to keep the power grid working reliably. Or, even worse by RNC standards, flipped to the sane party — us Democrats!

Per the Texas Tribune:

… The RNC’s 168 members voted to choose Houston on Friday morning in Milwaukee, the site of next year’s convention and the first Republican primary debate earlier this week. The announcement came uncommonly early — five years before the convention and a year before the 2024 convention.

McDaniel brought up the party’s efforts to reach out to Hispanic voters in the selection of a city in Texas, where conservative Hispanic candidates have progressed in long-time Democratic strongholds in South Texas.

“We all know that Hispanic voters have been shifting toward the Republican Party. Texans like Monica De La Cruz and Tony Gonzales and Ted Cruz and Mayra Flores have been front and center leading that charge in 2022,” McDaniel said…

Oh, so now Rafael Ted’s Hispanic?

Politico explains:

… Outgoing Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner, a Democrat who is term-limited and cannot seek reelection, said the city is “proud” to be chosen as the site of the RNC’s 2028 gathering. He described Houston as “the nation’s most diverse and inclusive city,” one that “represents the future of the United States and our aspirations as a country.”

“This keeps us on the global stage, allowing us to showcase our amazing venues and the people who keep our hotels, restaurants, and local businesses operating,” Turner said in a statement.

While Texas remains a red state, shifting demographics and narrowing GOP margins in recent years have given Democrats a degree of hope in the state…

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RNC members in April 2022 approved a rule change to allow the committee to begin selecting convention cities as far as six years out, after beginning the process of planning its 2024 gathering and realizing some cities’ hotels and convention centers were already booked up nearly three years in advance. Anne Hathaway, chair of the RNC’s convention site selection committee and the national committee member from Indiana, told POLITICO at the time that since major sporting events are being reserved years in advance, as well as large conventions like the National Rifle Association’s annual conference, the GOP needed to begin its city-scouting process earlier to have more options.

Democrats have not made a similar change to their convention planning timeline.

The RNC’s 2024 convention in Milwaukee will be held July 15 to 18.

As a loyal American Democrat, I can only hope the RNC’s next five years are consumed by an ongoing embarrassment of bad news, interparty conflicts, and general shenanigans (at which leading GOP Texas pols like Gregg ‘Greet the Migrant Babies with Razor Wire’ Abbott’ and Ken ‘Who, Me — Under Investigation *Again*?‘ Paxton are so preternaturaly gifted).

The dissension has started already…

The Texas Republican Party bans Logcabin, the gay conservative group with 80 chapters across the US.

Texas is the only state that bans us from their state convention.

The national GOP Convention shouldn’t be in Texas if this ban remains.@GOPChairwoman @tedcruz @JohnCornyn https://t.co/1MJ5jLHKte

— Richard Grenell (@RichardGrenell) August 25, 2023

Those replies to that are bleak. Just a bunch of center right people asking "why did the leopards eat your face" and a bunch more leopards saying "it's good they ate your face and i will help them eat more faces"

— Sysfin (@SysFin) August 26, 2023

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Sunday Evening Open Thread: The GOP Grifter Speedrun

by Anne Laurie|  August 27, 20236:16 pm| 117 Comments

This post is in: 2024 Primaries, Foreign Affairs, Grifters Gonna Grift, Open Threads, Republican Venality

Starting to suspect that Ramaswamy is a sociopath. https://t.co/5c2u5UdSmS

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) August 27, 2023

When it comes to Republican candidates, never say never in this fallen world, but I’m beginning to think Vivek chose to jump into the 2024 primaries because he expects to be in jail or in hiding by 2026.

Like I said, when you back any conservative into a corner on a mass shooting they immediately try to pivot to "what about the south side of Chicago?" https://t.co/2YQ664BgEV

— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha) August 27, 2023

He's a con man who was good at separating investors from their money in the bullshit economy. https://t.co/5iqaxuJMY1

— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) August 24, 2023

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Just an independent thinker. And like every single one of them…that was a lie.

— Centrism Fan Acct ?? (@Wilson__Valdez) August 24, 2023

I'm too busy running for President to be deposed in this lawsuit abt shady dealings with my failed company that somehow made me an almost billionaire. https://t.co/MqN1fcMJyI

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) August 26, 2023

Ramaswamy tells @OstapYarysh "some post-Zelenskyy warlord" will take power in Ukraine & will be armed to the teeth unless the USA quickly stops sending weapons to Ukraine.

He compares it with the Mujehadeen & Al-Qaida in Afghanistan after the Soviets left pic.twitter.com/1kGiTVBmLJ

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) August 24, 2023

Or, if the Ukrainians get their hands on him, in no condition to ‘run’…

In today's #vatniksoup, I'll introduce an American businessman and politician, Vivek Ramaswamy (@VivekGRamaswamy).

He's best-known for his stock promotion schemes, for his staunch support of Donald Trump, and for his hot takes on the Russo-Ukrainian War.

1/16 pic.twitter.com/Mjwv5qmeOE

— Pekka Kallioniemi (@P_Kallioniemi) August 25, 2023

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War for Ukraine Day 550: Russia Bombards Ukraine Again

by Adam L Silverman|  August 27, 20236:12 pm| 29 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

(Image by NEIVANMADE)

A brief housekeeping note: I am watching the advisories and forecasts regarding Idalia. There’s still a lot of uncertainty in the forecast, but I expect we’ll all have a pretty good idea by early tomorrow afternoon where the storm is going to go. Given the uncertainty in the forecast, I cannot say that I won’t have to miss an update or two. More to follow on this tomorrow.

Last night, the russians carried out another massive missile attack against Ukraine. Air defense systems shot down all four cruise missiles (X-101/X-55/X-555 types). The russians also launched decoy targets. Several private homes were damaged by debris from intercepted missiles.… pic.twitter.com/JLWzjz6KeT

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) August 27, 2023

Last night, the russians carried out another massive missile attack against Ukraine. Air defense systems shot down all four cruise missiles (X-101/X-55/X-555 types). The russians also launched decoy targets. Several private homes were damaged by debris from intercepted missiles. So far, reportedly, only two people were lightly injured.

📷 @police_kyiv_obl

Here is President Zelenskyy’s address from earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

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Decisions will be made this week that will further strengthen our warriors – address by the President of Ukraine

27 August 2023 – 19:43

I wish you health, fellow Ukrainians!

At the end of this week – another week of our, Ukrainian, strength – it is time to sum up the results. The results of our gratitude. To those Ukrainians who have distinguished themselves the most in protecting lives and Ukraine over the past seven days. Our warriors, our rescuers.

Soldier Yaroslav Bevz – a warrior of the 47th separate mechanized brigade. He was one of the first in the assault group to enter and gain a foothold in Robotyne, Zaporizhzhia. He was the one who returned the Ukrainian flag to the school in Robotyne that had been destroyed by the Russians. Thank you, Yaroslav! Thank you to all your brothers-in-arms! And to all our other warriors of different ranks, from different units, who are doing everything possible to ensure that our flag is in all its rightful places, throughout the territory of our state!

Our combat medics – thank you for your heroism, for every life saved of our warriors! Today, I would like to recognize soldier Yana Khvostikova, a medical orderly of the medical company, and junior sergeant Tetiana Sviatets, a nurse of the 47th brigade. Thank you!

Soldier Danylo Marushchak, a tank commander from the 53rd separate mechanized brigade. He fights on the outskirts of Avdiivka. He fights bravely. And he fights with precision. Thank you!

Senior sailor Oleksandr Nosal. The 37th separate marine brigade. Thank you for your bravery, Oleksandr!

Junior Sergeant Volodymyr Makarevych, a drone operator, is very efficient. The 46th separate airmobile brigade. Thank you, Volodymyr, for every hit!

Senior Lieutenant Volodymyr Fomin, an artilleryman of the 36th separate marine brigade. Thank you for the systematic and powerful destruction of the occupiers!

Our Special Forces personnel – Junior Lieutenant Yaroslav Rashchupkin, Senior Sergeant Semen Denysenko and Junior Sergeant Serhiy Bolotnyi. The guys are working in the north of our country, protecting Ukraine from Russian saboteurs. Thank you for your defense of our Sumy region!

I would also like to mention the warriors who are protecting Ukrainians from Shaheds. I thank each and every one of them! I would especially like to mention senior soldiers Olena Klymova, Oleksandr Kiyashko, and soldier Vitaliy Vovloshyn. Thank you for your coordinated actions and successful destruction of targets!

Our rescuers… employees of the State Emergency Service from different regions of Ukraine. In particular, Odesa region. Those who took part in the liquidation of the consequences of terrorist attacks on critical infrastructure… Chief Master Sergeants of the Civil Defense Service Mykhailo Shyshman and Petro Stankov, Major of the Civil Defense Service Valentyn Sali… Thank you!

Dnipropetrovsk region… Chief Master Sergeants of the Civil Defense Service Maksym Veklych and Ihor Tarasenko, Senior Lieutenant of the Civil Defense Service Serhiy Makarenko… They personally evacuated the wounded from the destroyed bus station in Dnipro after the Russian attack and rescued a man from under the rubble. And this is just one of the episodes of their work. I am grateful for saving Ukrainians!

Zaporizhzhia region… A very difficult direction. Sergeants of the Civil Defense Service Oleksandr Tsyhypa and Serhiy Panchenko – thank you guys for your work in Orikhiv. Sergeant of the Civil Defense Service Yevhen Puzanov and Captain of the Civil Defense Service Oleh Novokhatko – thank you! Both of them distinguished themselves in the city of Huliaipole after the Russian shelling. They saved lives.

And today – without names, without details, but there is something to recognize our intelligence officers and special services for. The personnel of the Main Intelligence Directorate and the Security Service of Ukraine. All of them. Well done indeed!

I am proud of our warriors! I am proud of our people!

As usual, there will be meetings of the Staff this week. The agenda is already set.

In particular, there will be decisions that will allow us to further strengthen our warriors. Allow military commanders to prepare the infrastructure for new Ukrainian aircraft more actively. Allow diplomats to promote everything that our warriors need more actively in communication with partners. The requests from each of the units are very clear. This is exactly what the results of Ukrainian diplomacy should be.

Glory to all who defend Ukraine and Ukrainians!

Glory to Ukraine!

The cost:

Farewell ceremony for the pilots of the 40th Tactical Aviation Brigade who tragically lost their lives in the skies of Zhytomyr region on August 25.

Major Viacheslav Minka
Major Serhii Prokazin
Captain Andrii Pilshchykov

From the first days of russian aggression, they defended… pic.twitter.com/YJ8y6JX8Hc

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) August 27, 2023

Farewell ceremony for the pilots of the 40th Tactical Aviation Brigade who tragically lost their lives in the skies of Zhytomyr region on August 25.

Major Viacheslav Minka
Major Serhii Prokazin
Captain Andrii Pilshchykov

From the first days of russian aggression, they defended Ukraine’s skies and were never defeated in battle. Their inspiring courage
Will forever be remembered by a grateful nation.

Київ, Межигірська 5. pic.twitter.com/vWYL17AA85

— Melaniya Podolyak (@MelaniePodolyak) August 27, 2023

This is the Ghost of Kyiv mural. The tweet translates as:

Kyiv, Mezhihirska 5.

The cost 2:

Farewell to a Hero.

On Friday in Kyiv, a farewell was held for Ihor Voievodin, a Japanese Studies student at Taras Shevchenko National University in Kyiv. He had been given a deferment, but when the enemy besieged the capital, under the call sign 'Stitch,' he became a sniper.… pic.twitter.com/I1DyMqikHG

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) August 27, 2023

Farewell to a Hero.

On Friday in Kyiv, a farewell was held for Ihor Voievodin, a Japanese Studies student at Taras Shevchenko National University in Kyiv. He had been given a deferment, but when the enemy besieged the capital, under the call sign ‘Stitch,’ he became a sniper.

He didn’t give his life in vain. Ukraine will be victorious. But at a tragically steep price…

📷 libkos

Why is it news when two American officials call reporters to anonymously share opinions about the war in Ukraine, but not news when Ukraine raids Crimea, destroys an important Russian air-defense system, induces a Russian pilot to defect, and takes back territory?

— Timothy Snyder (@TimothyDSnyder) August 26, 2023

This is a very good question!

And Tatarigami has some thoughts on the reporting based on these anonymous sources and leaks. First tweet from the thread with the rest from the Thread Reader App and then a couple of follow on tweets with Q&A:

🧵I came across an article today in The Washington Post that discusses the counter-offensive. I usually refrain from criticizing leaks, recognizing the importance of journalistic work. Nevertheless, in light of the statement in the article, I want to provide some counterpoints: pic.twitter.com/3nOaqvpLb9

— Tatarigami_UA (@Tatarigami_UA) August 27, 2023

2/ It is challenging to ascertain the credibility of the official giving the commentary. It remains unclear whether the statement accurately reflects Pentagon’s stance, if it was a journalist’s interpretation of an official’s words, or it was an actual statement 
3/ Should we accept this statement at face value, it is arguably one of the worst statements I have encountered recently. The statement raises doubts regarding the authenticity of the statement itself. Drones play a pivotal role in minimizing the risk to servicememebers lives 
4/ The majority of frontlines are heavily mined and under constant surveillance by drones, maximizing the risk of reconnaissance missions. Opting to jeopardize human lives over the loss of a drone not only lacks compassion but is also imprudent and devoid of logical rationale. 
5/ Whether it’s just an inaccurate reporting or an unreliable source, I hope that this statement is a misrepresentation of someone’s remarks, rather than an actual viewpoint originating from within the Pentagon. This argument just doesn’t hold water 

The question is whether they genuinely meant this, or if it was extracted from the context of some conversation between officials and subsequently presented to the public through misinterpretation.

— Tatarigami_UA (@Tatarigami_UA) August 27, 2023

Yep, I have being trying to address this issue, but the most common response I get is: "we don't make cheap crap".

Very cheap and unreliable, or overly expensive and too slow in production and numbers – both represent extremes.

— Tatarigami_UA (@Tatarigami_UA) August 27, 2023

To be fair, I discourage personal harassment of journalists and bullying them online for articles or opinions

Let's stick to debating ideas, not individuals.

Nonetheless, I have the right to criticize weak points in this article as part of freedom of expression as well

— Tatarigami_UA (@Tatarigami_UA) August 27, 2023

Robotyne:

ROBOTYNE AXIS /1650 UTC 27 AUG/ Heavy fighting continues at Robotyne and Verbove. RU & UKR trade drone, air and artillery strikes. RU fighting from prepared positions in Novoprokopivka and Verbove. Fighting ongoing in vicinity of key terrain near Hill 166. pic.twitter.com/4gskotax5A

— Chuck Pfarrer | Indications & Warnings | (@ChuckPfarrer) August 27, 2023

This is a detailed map heavy assessment of what the Ukrainians are doing in Robotyne. First tweet from the thread followed by the rest from the Thread Reader App:

The Ukrainian offensive in the Robotyne sector has progressed, and the first Russian main defence line has been reached.

In this thread we’ll take a closer look at the main defensive line and what might happen next.

This thread includes high resolution satellite imagery. 🧵 1/ pic.twitter.com/0NJzSaKaME

— Emil Kastehelmi (@emilkastehelmi) August 27, 2023

Ukrainians have been trying to advance in the Robotyne area since June. After over two and a half months of fighting, Ukraine has liberated most of Robotyne and continued south, bypassing Novoprokokivka.

In this map, you can see the Southern front on 1.6. and now, 27.8.

2/Image

The first significant fortified obstacle is located just outside Robotyne. The Russians have prepared formidable defences, which include covered firing positions and bunkers. From here, the Russians can defend against attacks from both north and east.

Zoom in for details. 3/Image

At the moment it seems like Ukraine doesn’t want to attack straight towards these heavily fortified positions.

Instead, they’re flanking the whole village of Novoprokokivka, and have established themselves between the positions south of Robotyne and the main defence line. 4/Image

The Ukrainians have roughly two immediate directions:

1. Try to open up the main road in Novoprokokivka and continue towards the heavier main defence fortifications at Solodka Balka.

2. Try to breach the main defensive line near Verbove and continue towards Ocheretuvate. 5/Image

Let’s take a look at the defences in the village of Solodka Balka. At the beginning of August, Russians were improving the positions they built during spring. You can see a lot of construction material, especially steel elements, which are used as roof material. 6/Image
The Russians have built 100-350m long communication trenches, which helps them both reinforce or retreat from the fighting positions. The built area of the village works as a buffer zone, and immediately after the village ends, another trenchline begins. 7/Image
Heavy fortifications are built in order to block any potential advance on the main road towards Tokmak. This is an important avenue of approach, so defending it is very logical. However, while concentrating on this section, the Russians may have missed something important. 8/Image
The main defence line west of Verbove seems to be in a significantly worse state.

At the beginning of August, no preparation work for finalizing these trenches had begun. At the end of August, low-resolution images show almost no signs of any trench improvements either. 10/Image

There are sections with no covered firing positions and very few accommodation bunkers, even though great effort was put into this in other places.

However, the Russians tend to fortify the treelines, but only limited indicators of this can be seen in these images.Image

The topographic heatmap gives also some additional insight to the battlefield. Russians have constructed most of their defences on dominant heights, and there is no way to completely avoid fighting uphill.

The highlighted ridge is the next tactically central point. 12/Image

The height differences are not extremely dramatic, and the treelines reduce the Russian field of fire. In this area, the best attempt for the Ukrainians would likely be to continue forward, breach the line between Solodka Balka and Verbove, and start flanking operations. 13/Image
This situation would provide a better basis for future operations, for example attacking the actual villages of Verbove and Novoprokokivka. Widening the salient is necessary in order to create a sustainable frontline. 14/ 
Soon, AFU has to start clearing the flanks more intensively. The offensive cannot continue south indefinitely – Ukrainians must, at some point, start focusing more on Kopani or Verbove.

Ukraine may face challenges in force distribution and prioritization. 15/ 

If the attacks in the flanks do not succeed, the spearhead will also slow down, giving the Russians time to prepare defences in depth.

This is actually happening already – the Russians have started constructing additional defense lines in the Berdyansk/Mariupol direction. 16/ 

So, the main points of this thread:

– Fortifications are not as strong in all areas of the first main defensive line, as known as the Surovikin line

– Russian preparedness varies

– Positive developments for Ukraine are possible in the near future, especially local success

17/
 

Thanks for reading, this thread took forever to make. The images are from 1.-2.8.2023. They do not endanger Ukrainian OPSEC in any way.

Thanks also to @wihurinrahasto for funding us!

Our team at @Black_BirdGroup continues to follow the situation. 18(18

The War in UkraineFollowing the War in Ukrainehttps://www.scribblemaps.com/maps/view/The-War-in-Ukraine/091194

And here is a follow on question and answer:

A good question. At least it seems that the Russians have only limited manpower for preparation work. However, this is not a clear indication of actual manpower shortages. We do know they've suffered casualties, but it's unclear how this will affect the immediate situation.

— Emil Kastehelmi (@emilkastehelmi) August 27, 2023

 

Kherson:

KHERSON AXIS /1320 UTC 27 AUG/ RU sourced information reveals that during the period 25-26 AUG, UKR forces broke up a confused Russian attack across Konka River at Kozachi Laheri. Half of the RU attacking force was reported killed or wounded before being driven off. pic.twitter.com/KtzDeLWaaE

— Chuck Pfarrer | Indications & Warnings | (@ChuckPfarrer) August 27, 2023

Kursk:

UPDATE: @front_ukrainian reports last night's attack on Kursk air base was conducted by Australian designed “SYPAQ” drones. Made of pressed cardboard, various models can carry explosive warheads of 3-5 kg at ranges up to 120 Km (~74 mi). https://t.co/PNOjetLR4E pic.twitter.com/qu0VBYs0VN

— Chuck Pfarrer | Indications & Warnings | (@ChuckPfarrer) August 27, 2023

The Ukrainian Soldier who tweets using the handle that translates as Zaporizhzhia Salt has a very long, detailed, and interesting thread on what is going on from the viewpoint of Ukrainian air reconnaissance. First tweet from the thread, follow by a machine translation of it, followed by a machine translation of the rest from the Thread Reader App, followed by the last few tweets as they didn’t make it into the unroll for some reason:

Про особливості боїв на Півдні багато написано. Не сказав би, що це той випадок, коли краще один (або більше) раз побачити, ніж багато разів почути/прочитати. Особливо очима передових підрозділів. Тред про бої з точки зору аеророзвідки🧵
1/

— Сіль 🇺🇦 (@solonko1648) August 26, 2023

Much has been written about the peculiarities of the battles in the South. I would not say that this is a case where it is better to see once (or more) than to hear/read many times. Especially through the eyes of advanced units. Thread about battles from the point of view of air reconnaissance 🧵
1/

Environment. Steppe. Field, landings. Minor heights and depressions, villages, small rivers. Mine fields. Whoever you are, an assault group on armor, an evak, aero or a pedestrian reconnaissance, your movement is visible from afar. The enemy was preparing to meet for a long time. 2/ 
Equipment and personnel can be recorded from afar and fired. Both sides understand that positions and dislocations are limited. It is almost certain in this or that landing there is something to shoot. Confirmation is required of course. First of all, to determine the priority of the goal 3/ 
Limited number of access roads, logistics roads. Everything is shot and fired repeatedly every day. They almost certainly see you. It is impossible to do the job while maintaining complete screening for the enemy in most 4/ 
There was a lot of talk about fortifications and minefields. Each landing is dug up. Anti-tank fortifications are installed on one of the shades of the Mariuposlka route. It’s not just about trenches. There’s a whole system of trenches, blinds, real tunnels in some places 5/Image
In each landing a network of trenches and firing positions for different means. AGS, DSC, PTRK. The fields are anti-tank ditches and mine barriers. From conventional TMok and POMok to more “exquisite” mines waiting for infantry 6/ 
It should be emphasized once again that it is about the system of trenches, united by transitions and entrances, through which there is a movement of os, fire extinguishers and BC. The rest that is not dug up is replaced. All this must be passed to move forward
7/Image
Who is very rozminous and believes that the Armed Forces knocked out the Russians from the village of Robine for a very long time, did not see which system of abounds had to be overcome to discard the Russians from the Mariupol route and approach the village, cover it and go. Colossal work 8/Image
The Russians are setting fire points (AGS, large-caliber machine guns ), approaches to them are changing. They walk certain paths. Our positions in the reflected area are surrounded by mines, stretch marks. Trails are made for the west, sappers gradually clean the area 9/ 
Often the remaining surprises break during the shelling, a fire that began due to the shelling of ( weeds, shrubs and trees are burning and stretch marks are triggered ). Sometimes we find and invite sappers to clean a specific area 10/ 
Lots of talk about losing armored vehicles. One question of starting misses. In the future, it is still impossible to avoid the loss of armor at least because of the enemy’s advantage in the air. But it has a specific functionality that involves risks 11/ 
They are justified by saving lives. We talked to the military, who was two-tier in direct shelling in Bradley. Even the most hopelessly beaten equipment is pulled out and taken to repair. Iron, even the road, can be changed, and human life will not be repaired 12/ 
PTURists of the enemy put cameras in landings in front of their positions. So they previously fix the goals ( technique of all mothers), which are worked on. If successful, finish the art. Or first aviation and then art 13/ 
There is a hunt for evak. Both transport and points. We were lined up under our noses, the boys were followed by a evak and he had to turn on a narrow road, very slowly, without going outside the road to a field that was replaced. Risking the same. Happiness, taken out 14/ 
KABI is one of the biggest fears. The Russians use them en masse. I can’t judge accuracy, but a weapon is formidable in strength. Try to beat logistics and management. Like us. Do not neglect to just shoot on the roads. Supporting n.p. constantly under fire 15/ 
Aeronautics system. The Orlan-Zala-Superkam connection works and creates problems. Detect targets and launch Lancets launch swarms and CABs. Try to break through and hunt down equipment 16/ 
The more repulsed positions are shot. The bomb is not spared. There are also no problems with mines. The landing, in which one of the crews worked, was simply shaved. There was a pallisade left, and the good trench simply ceased to be suitable for work 17/ 
Russians use typical armor tactics. The route of exit to the firing position is determined. Usually so that the equipment is under the visual cover of the landings and eventually goes to the space open for firing. Very quickly shoots BC and runs away 18/ 
Armor cannot be completely hidden. Visible from a cloud of dust while driving, seen as the technique moves between landings. It can be seen from drones. Here is the main task, to perform a fire task so fast that they do not have time to lead the art or work out fpv or PTRK 19/ 
I understand why the Russians are so bombed by the loss of the village on 6 streets. They did a great job not to miss the Armed Forces. It is easier to defend all canons. We do a great job to break through. And when we succeed, our work goes better 20/ 
Thanks for your attention. I may supplement in the future.
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SaltContinuation of the failed day for the occupiers in the village of Robine. After the destruction of the machine-gun calculation and the composition of the BC in the north n.p. (previous video) surviving Rashists rushed to flee from there and seek refuge …https://t.me/silukr/122
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Anyone studying the tactics and strategy of this war can look 9 months ago and move east. And compare. There we defended ourselves, not stepped on.

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Хто вивчає тактику і стратегію цієї війни, може заглянути на 9 місяців назад і переміститися на схід. І порівняти. Там ми оборонялися, а не наступали. https://t.co/3kNqxvg6Xb

— Сіль 🇺🇦 (@solonko1648) August 26, 2023

Those who study the tactics and strategy of this war can look back 9 months and move to the east. And compare. There we defended, not attacked.

And here’s the machine translation of the first tweet of the 2022 thread he is quote tweeting:

He promised to describe his personal experience with Bakhmut. Several times he started writing and it came out in the style of a mentor for himself a year younger. I couldn’t do anything about it, so it will be like that. I also add some of the stories and experiences of my brothers. Here are both military and personal 1/

Деякі обіцяні доповнення. Не варто забувати, що росіяни широко використовують заборонені боєприпаси, зокрема фосфор. Такі речі також часто сипляться на голови українських військових в цій зоні. Ще один спосіб яким росіяни користувалися намагаючись зупинити наступ на Роботине 21/ pic.twitter.com/PymcGSHTNA

— Сіль 🇺🇦 (@solonko1648) August 27, 2023

Some promised additions. It should not be forgotten that the Russians widely use prohibited ammunition, in particular phosphorus. Such things also often fall on the heads of the Ukrainian military in this zone. Another method used by the Russians in an attempt to stop the attack on Robotyn 21/

І ще трохи про фортифікації. Це так звана лінія забезпечення в районі між селами Вербове та Роботине. Їх доводилося проривати для того, щоб підійти до Роботиного зі сходу. Додай сюди все описане вище і уявіть як доводилося штурмувати і зачищати ці окопи 22/ pic.twitter.com/WaEGGZpMsn

— Сіль 🇺🇦 (@solonko1648) August 27, 2023

And a little more about fortifications. This is the so-called supply line in the area between the villages of Verbove and Robotine. They had to be broken through in order to approach Robotyny from the east. Add here everything described above and imagine how it was necessary to storm and clear these trenches 22/

For you demining enthusiasts:

Rather incredible footage of a demining unit of the 36th Separate Assault Brigade working on a Russian minefield in the south.

Archive footage from the start of the counter-offensive.https://t.co/3mvmepVYyS pic.twitter.com/QlLXMmoh5z

— WarTranslated (@wartranslated) August 27, 2023

The Russian investigative committee established to verify if Prigozhin and the original Dmitry Utkin are actually dead is now reporting that they are actually dead:

Russian Investigative Committee officially confirms the death of the head of "Wagner" Yevgeniy Prigozhin.

— WarTranslated (@wartranslated) August 27, 2023

Prigozhin and Utkin confirmed dead, according to Investigative Committee. pic.twitter.com/PIUkHQ0iv3

— Maria Avdeeva (@maria_avdv) August 27, 2023

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