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Whoever he was, that guy was nuts.

Stop using mental illness to avoid talking about armed white supremacy.

You don’t get to peddle hatred on saturday and offer condolences on sunday.

Radicalized white males who support Trump are pitching a tent in the abyss.

But frankly mr. cole, I’ll be happier when you get back to telling us to go fuck ourselves.

Everything is totally normal and fine!!!

the 10% who apparently lack object permanence

When we show up, we win.

The most dangerous place for a black man in America is in a white man’s imagination.

She burned that motherfucker down, and I am so here for it. Thank you, Caroline Kennedy.

People identifying as christian while ignoring christ and his teachings is a strange thing indeed.

Democracy cannot function without a free press.

People are weird.

After dobbs, women are no longer free.

The unpunished coup was a training exercise.

Republicans don’t want a speaker to lead them; they want a hostage.

He wakes up lying, and he lies all day.

It’s all just conspiracy shit beamed down from the mothership.

And now I have baud making fun of me. this day can’t get worse.

How any woman could possibly vote for this smug smarmy piece of misogynistic crap is beyond understanding.

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Wee Hours Open Thread

by WaterGirl|  November 10, 202312:34 am| 50 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Rather than counting sheep so everyone who wants to can fall asleep, I’ll start you off with a question, which you can absolutely ignore and instead talk about whatever you please.

Do any of you have an incorrigible pet?

And a bonus late-night Henry.  My little Henry has taken to being very mischievous when I leave the house.  And by mischievous, I mead bad.  He started out chewing on a cardboard box, then moved on to pulling food out of the kitchen cabinets and making a total mess on the floor – which I solved by buying a very tiny cat collar and making it as small as possible, and looping it through the cabinet handles.

Then Henry escalated to breaking into the dog and cat food tins , the ones that no pet had tried to break into for probably 20 years.  I tried putting the really heavy book (gift from my sister) on top.  That wasn’t enough, I came home to find the Henry – allergy boy! – had eaten probably a fourth of a bag of cat food.  I had to up his meds for a week.  Not to mention cutting back on his food for a week so he could return to his regular girlish figure.

Next, I added painters tape on the cans, which you can see below.
I didn’t worry about pretty – it was just proof of concept.

When I returned, the cans and the book were in place, and no food on the floor!
“Good boy, Henry, you’re such a good boy!”

And then I looked down, saw this, and laughed!

Maybe not quite such a good boy, after all!

Open thread.

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War for Ukraine Day 624: War on the 85th Anniversary of Kristallnacht

by Adam L Silverman|  November 9, 20238:50 pm| 60 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

 

Art by NEIVANMADE of a Ukrainian painted black and outlined in blood red kneeling in grief with hands covering the face surrounded by the bodies of Ukrainians killed by Russians on a grey background. "Russia Is Committing Genocide Right Now" is across the top center of the image.

(Image by NEIVANMADE)

A brief housekeeping note: to everyone that thanks me for doing these updates in comments, I see them even if it is the next morning. Thank you all for the kind words. You are all most welcome. Though I very much look forward to the day when I no longer have to do these updates.

Tonight is the 85th anniversary of Kristallnacht.

9-10 November 1938 | November Pogrom organized against the Jews throughout Nazi Germany. Hundreds killed & died by suicide, 30,000 men arrested, over 1,000 synagogues burnt, over 7,000 Jewish businesses destroyed or damaged: https://t.co/hrrnJUqR3e pic.twitter.com/TfhVQ7ZzD5

— Auschwitz Memorial (@AuschwitzMuseum) November 9, 2023

As I write this post, eighty-five years after the Night of Shattered Glass Russia’s genocidal re-invasion of Ukraine has entered its 625th day because of the time difference between where I’m sitting in the US and Ukraine. In the past 624 days Russia has stolen thousands of Ukrainian children in an attempt to reeducate them into Russians. Russia has destroyed Ukrainian heritage sites in order to erase Ukrainian history, culture, art, music, and literature. In the parts of Ukraine that it is occupying Russia has remade school curricula to indoctrinate the Ukrainian children it has not stolen into becoming Russian. And every single day Russia targets, attacks, and destroys Ukrainian civilian infrastructure, housing, and civilians themselves. All of this because Putin believes that Ukraine’s actual history is really Russia’s history, that Ukraine has no history or existence separate from Russian, and that if he cannot have and control Ukraine then no one, especially the Ukrainians, can have it either. Putin’s strategic objectives are genocidal because he stated clearly the goal was the elimination of an independent Ukraine; an obliteration of Ukrainian history, society, and culture; and the absorption of Ukraine into Russia by force.

At the same time, Israel is conducting a major combat counterterrorism operation against Hamas in Gaza. As has been the case since Bibi first became prime minister in 1996 and has been the case for thirteen of the past fifteen years during his second stint as prime minister, Israel’s response is to use overwhelming force to achieve its objectives. As a result, Israel’s incursion into Gaza is both strategic malpractice and one series of war crimes and crimes against humanity after another despite it not actually being a genocide.

It is strategic malpractice because Israel should be doing four things: Step 1: precise hostage rescue operations. Step 2: review and revision of security strategy, operations, and tactics, techniques, and procedures (TTPs) to diminish the likelihood of future Hamas attacks. Steps 1 & 2 have to run at the same time. Step 3: precise counter-Hamas response. Specifically a tightly targeted dismantling of Hamas leadership. Step 4: development of a policy and strategy to end the occupation & get to a negotiated solution to the dispute. Failure to undertake step 4 means that at some point steps 1 to 3 will only have to be repeated. The response now, which seems to be the sledgehammer approach that may or may not dismantle Hamas & may or may not safely recover the hostages is not working and not going to work. It further endangers the hostages and it sets the conditions to create more radicalized Palestinians who are then recruitable into Hamas, PIJ, and other violent extremist movements. The current response is ultimately self defeating.

The current response is not just strategic malpractice and self defeating because it decreases the likelihood of getting the hostages out, seriously undertaking a strategic security review and making appropriate revisions, and dismantling Hamas in a way that minimized the damage to the Gazan Palestinians so as to set the conditions to secure the post war peace. It is strategic malpractice and self defeating because the response is such an overwhelming application of force, doing so much harm to the Gazan Palestinian civilian population, that despite the strategic objective not being the ethnic cleansing of the Gazan Palestinians, the effect right now seems to be the same.

On the 85th anniversary of Kristallnacht we have one ongoing genocidal war in Europe and one ongoing major combat counterterrorism operation by the descendants of many of the victims who survived Kristallnacht undertaken in such as way and with such damage to the civilian population that despite ethnic cleansing and genocide not being a strategic objective, the effects of the operation are producing those results.

85 years and we have learned nothing.

Here is President Zelenskyy’s address from earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

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We are working with all partners to bolster air defense for Ukraine – address by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy

9 November 2023 – 18:45

I wish you health, fellow Ukrainians!

We continue to build our relations with all countries of the Global South – Ukraine needs understanding in all parts of the world.

Today I spoke with the President of Indonesia. By the way, it is the country where our Peace Formula was first presented a year ago at the G20 Summit. I have now informed Mr. President about the results we have achieved in attracting the world majority to the Peace Formula. I hope Indonesia will become part of this global effort.

We also discussed the issue of global food security – our maritime export corridors. This is one of Ukraine’s greatest successes – clearing our sea of Russian warships. This gives more security both for us and for the whole world. I am grateful to all our warriors, all port workers, and everyone who helps, for keeping the Black Sea a living sea for global relations, not a zone of Russian terror.

Of course, the suffering of people in the Middle East was one of the main topics of our conversation with the President of Indonesia. It is very important that as many civilians as possible are protected and that the war that is going on in the Middle East does not lead to a full-scale collapse of international stability. Everyone needs security and peace.

I also spoke with Mr. President of Paraguay – Ukraine’s attention to Latin America and Latin America’s attention to our country should only increase. It is right for Latin American countries to be involved in global affairs, in the protection of human rights and the sovereignty of nations.

Among all the things we discussed today with the President of Paraguay, I would like to emphasize our diplomatic efforts on the Peace Formula and our joint work on international platforms. I am grateful for supporting Ukraine.

I would also like to thank Azerbaijan today. As we agreed with Mr. President Aliyev, on the eve of the winter, we have received appropriate assistance for our energy sector. We realize that this winter’s difficulties may be no less than last year’s. We are getting ready. And the support for Ukraine, our people, and our energy sector is critically important.

We are also working with all our partners to get air defense systems for Ukraine – we are trying to add strength to our sky shield virtually every week. The more protected the Ukrainian sky, Ukrainian cities and villages are, the more opportunities our people will have for economic activity. For production, in particular, for defense production. No matter what happens in the world, Ukraine will have its own strength to defend its sovereignty.

Today, I had meetings with the Prime Minister on current issues and needs of the state, and with the Minister of Foreign Affairs on his meetings and conversations with partners, new agreements that can be reached. I also held a meeting with the Main Intelligence Directorate – there are important intelligence results. I thank you guys. We continue to evacuate our citizens from the Gaza Strip – 89 of our people have been rescued so far. We continue this work. It is a very painstaking and delicate process. Today I also heard a report from the Security Service of Ukraine on countering collaborators. Well done, guys.

Of course, the frontline. I am in touch with the military throughout the day. The hottest areas over the past day are Avdiivka, Maryinka, Kupyansk, and Bakhmut. I am grateful to all our brigades, to each unit for their resilience, for their strength, for the destruction of the occupiers. Southern directions – guys, I thank you for your strength. Our artillery, our missile forces and everyone who helps in the special services – I thank you for your accuracy. There are encouraging results. There will be more.

Glory to Ukraine!

The price being paid:

Two signalmen, father and son, serve together the Donetsk @TDF_UA Brigade's Mariupol Battalion.
The father stood up for the defense of Ukraine back in 2014.
His son joined him following the full-scale Russian invasion.
Today, Ukrainians of all generations are united by one goal:… pic.twitter.com/3slPuHE0cf

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) November 9, 2023

Two signalmen, father and son, serve together the Donetsk @TDF_UA
Brigade’s Mariupol Battalion.
The father stood up for the defense of Ukraine back in 2014.
His son joined him following the full-scale Russian invasion.
Today, Ukrainians of all generations are united by one goal: to clear our land of the occupiers and secure our freedom.

#UkraineWillWin

📷: Viktor Golikov

Kherson:

russian targets in Ukraine.
Kherson November 9th, 2023.

📷: @MVS_UA pic.twitter.com/rV11KfjObJ

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) November 9, 2023

Avdiivka:

Авдіївка,Донеччина 08.11.2023
Проїзд містом та евакуація цивільних
Відео від волонтера Деніса Крістофа pic.twitter.com/VJFoC4wJiH

— Мисливець за зорями (@small10space) November 9, 2023

Machine translation of the tweet:

Avdiivka, Donetsk region, November 8, 2023
Driving through the city and evacuating civilians
Video by volunteer Denis Kristof

Krynky, Bakhmut, Velyka Novoselivka, and Robotyne:

South of Bakhmut, 🇺🇦 has made advances around the rail line.

West of Bakhmut, 🇷🇺 has attacked along the edge of the Bohdanivka reservoir. pic.twitter.com/UGVIBZyK3i

— War Mapper (@War_Mapper) November 9, 2023

Around Robotyne, 🇺🇦 have captured 🇷🇺 positions on the Eastern flank of the salient. pic.twitter.com/dlcUUg74vF

— War Mapper (@War_Mapper) November 9, 2023

Skadovsk, Russian occupied Zaporizhzhia Oblast:

There was shelling in the temporarily occupied port city of Skadovsk in the Zaporizhzhia region this morning which resulted in a collapse of a building. Commentary from Russians hinting that some important people were in the house: "not military, but others", perhaps officials.… pic.twitter.com/I8PqwDuWzC

— WarTranslated (@wartranslated) November 9, 2023

There was shelling in the temporarily occupied port city of Skadovsk in the Zaporizhzhia region this morning which resulted in a collapse of a building. Commentary from Russians hinting that some important people were in the house: “not military, but others”, perhaps officials. But the situation appears worse than what the authorities are trying to paint it. We will soon hear more about it.

Kyiv:

Дзвіниця Софійського собору #Київ pic.twitter.com/UhUWhhUNAq

— Красень Київ (@adrozd83) November 8, 2023

Machine translation of the tweet:

Sophia Cathedral bell tower #Київ

Tatarigami has some thoughts on the frozen conflict narrative:

It is clear that some politicians and media outlets have been promoting a "conflict-freezing" narrative, that bears a striking resemblance to the approach outlined in Russian doctrinal thought. To delve into it, let's look at an actual professional analysis – the report… pic.twitter.com/YC8QZeRHEV

— Tatarigami_UA (@Tatarigami_UA) November 9, 2023

It is clear that some politicians and media outlets have been promoting a “conflict-freezing” narrative, that bears a striking resemblance to the approach outlined in Russian doctrinal thought. To delve into it, let’s look at an actual professional analysis – the report formulated by The Center for Naval Analyses under the US government contract, which outlines Russian military strategy.

In 2021, a team of analysts led by @KofmanMichael released a document called “Russian Military Strategy: Core Tenets and Operational Concepts”. This paper explores the core tenets of Russian military strategy. The paper states that Russian military strategy reflects that Russia expects to be the militarily inferior party in a regional or large-scale war against a technologically superior adversary.

Of particular relevance to our discussion is this excerpt: “The overall task for Russian military strategy is to prevent an opponent from achieving a decisive outcome during the initial period of war, force them into a conflict of attrition, and inflict costs on their military and economic infrastructure such that they will seek war termination on acceptable terms.”

While originally designed for scenarios against a larger adversary like NATO, the core tenet of this strategy applies to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. The objective is to hinder Ukraine from achieving decisive outcomes, push Ukraine into attrition, and impose costs on their military and economic infrastructure, compelling them to seek war termination on terms favorable to Russia.

Now, let’s step back and examine the strategic objectives of both countries:

– Russia aimed to replace the Ukrainian government, install a puppet regime, and gain control over Ukrainian territory. Failing to achieve these goals, Russia has had to adjust its objectives. Currently, the likelihood of achieving initial goals appears unrealistic.

– Ukraine’s strategic goals focus on liberating all its territories and reverting to internationally recognized borders. While Russia struggles to achieve its strategic goals, it retains the ability to thwart Ukraine’s strategic goals, evident in events during the counter-offensive in the summer and fall of 2023.

This understanding is crucial. Returning to the document, let’s reiterate: “The goal is to prevent the adversary from achieving a decisive outcome, force them into a conflict of attrition, and inflict costs on their military and economic infrastructure such that they will seek war termination on acceptable terms.”

In March 2019 at the Russian Academy of Military Sciences, General Gerasimov acknowledged the “emergence of new spheres of confrontation in modern conflicts and methods of warfare increasingly shift towards the integrated application of political, economic, informational, and other nonmilitary measures, realized with reliance on military force.”

Russian theorists perceive information warfare as a potent tool capable of disrupting an opponent’s command and control, deceiving adversaries, fostering instability within enemy borders, and demoralizing both civilian populations and military forces to the extent that they lose the will to resist.

Let’s shift our focus from this research paper once more

This approach is not novel. The strategy of using “frozen conflicts” as a military and political tool has been employed by Russia since the dissolution of the Soviet Union.

The invasion of Moldova by Russian forces and the establishment of the so-called “Transnistria,” which persists to this day in Moldova, serves as an example. Russia utilizes this entity to exert influence on Moldova and obstruct Eurointegration processes. This same strategy unfolded in Georgia and later in Ukraine.

When Ukraine opted not to engage with Russia in 2014 during the occupation of Crimea, the so-called “de-escalation” only led to a further invasion of Donetsk oblast by a group of russian operatives led by Girkin (Strelkov).

The Minsk agreements in 2014 and 2015 did not yield results; instead, they were followed by a russian invasion of Ukraine. Adhering to this pattern, now more explicitly outlined in Russian military doctrine, there are no signs that Russia is inclined to abandon or alter this course.
Therefore, any calls for a “frozen conflict” merely play into the achievement of military and political goals outlined in Russian military thought and assist Russia in preparing for the next phase.

In conclusion, it’s apt to quote renowned military theorist Carl von Clausewitz: “The aggressor is always peace-loving, he would prefer to take over our country unopposed.”

If you found this content valuable, your support through likes, comments, and shares is greatly appreciated. It plays a crucial role in countering Russian misinformation. You can also contribute through donations on BuyMeACoffee, linked in my profile bio.

I am also glad to announce that the X has given the green light for a subscription service. Soon, I’ll be sharing additional exclusive content there. If you’re not following Frontelligence Insight on my site, you can opt for an X (former Twitter) subscription to receive special updates.

Here’s the link to the Center for Naval Analysis (CNA) assessment.

It's not just playing into Putin's hands – it's from their playbook, a strategy with a track record of success. The issue lies in the short-sightedness of certain politicians and journalists who often fail to see beyond one election cycle and neglect post-Soviet history lessons.

— Tatarigami_UA (@Tatarigami_UA) November 9, 2023

Germany:

Rheinmetall received a 3-digit million order from the German government to provide Ukraine with 100,000 pieces of 120mm mortar rounds.

Source: https://t.co/MkRpgNpswL#Germany #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/kAjaG8V5IA

— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar) November 9, 2023

That’s enough for tonight.

Your daily Patron!

There are no new tweets from Patron today, so here’s some adjacent material from the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense:

Tom & Jerry: frontline edition.

"Syrskyi" cat now has a reliable counterpart. pic.twitter.com/fR72LWhpxy

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) November 9, 2023

There is also a new slideshow at Patron’s official TikTok. Those don’t embed here, so click through if you want to see it.

Open thread!

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I, For One, Welcome Our New Orca Overlords…

by Tom Levenson|  November 9, 20234:42 pm| 123 Comments

This post is in: Nature, Open Threads

It all began, researchers are coming to believe, when White Gladis encountered a fishing boat.

[She] suffered a “critical moment of agony” — a collision with a boat or entrapment during illegal fishing — that flipped a behavioral switch. “That traumatized orca is the one that started this behavior of physical contact with the boat,” López Fernandez said.

That “physical contact” suggests that the gospel according to Moby Dick may still resonate in cetacean circles:

Orcas have attacked and sunk a third boat off the Iberian coast of Europe, and experts now believe the behavior is being copied by the rest of the population.

Three orcas (Orcinus orca), also known as killer whales, struck the yacht on the night of May 4 in the Strait of Gibraltar, off the coast of Spain, and pierced the rudder. “There were two smaller and one larger orca,” skipper Werner Schaufelberger told the German publication Yacht. “The little ones shook the rudder at the back while the big one repeatedly backed up and rammed the ship with full force from the side.”

I, For One, Welcome Our New Orca Overlords... 1

It appears that once White Gladis decided enough was enough, her rage and her response began to diffuse into the local orca society–if not necessarily by formal instruction:

“We do not interpret that the orcas are teaching the young, although the behavior has spread to the young vertically, simply by imitation, and later horizontally among them, because they consider it something important in their lives,” López Fernandez said.

 

I, For One, Welcome Our New Orca Overlords...

This behavior may pass if and when the whales get bored with the sport.  In any event, it’s no joke.  The Iberian orca population has dwindled to just 39 known individuals, as of the last census to be taken, more than a decade ago. If and as encounters–whether incited by humans in their boats or by enraged animals–lead to more orca deaths, that will be one more wound in a world burden by so much loss.

But in the meantime, here’s a remote cheer for a bunch of creatures getting mad as hell and not taking it anymore.

While I pat myself on the back for omitting every Melville-inspired joke, this thread is open.

Images: Pieter Lastman, Jonah and the Whale, 1621.

“Extended Warranty” courtesy of Adam Silverman, local memelord.

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Jezebel Shuttered (Open Thread)

by Betty Cracker|  November 9, 20232:13 pm| 165 Comments

This post is in: Media, Open Threads

Jezebel, which has provided reporting and cultural commentary from a feminist point of view for 16 years, is shutting down. After Silicon Valley weirdo Peter Thiel killed its parent site Gawker in 2016, Jezebel was sold to Univision, which then sold it to a private equity outfit. From New York Mag:

Jezebel’s folding comes amid high and well-publicized tensions between G/O Media and its editorial properties — most recently, over G/O’s increasingly abundant reliance on AI, a strategy the company has continued to pursue despite strong objections from its writers and editors. On top of that, Spanfeller reportedly started evaluating writers based on algorithmically driven “scorecards” that meted out points based on traffic and engagement, seemingly prioritizing quantity over quality. Staffers have also complained that he blocked internal opportunities for growth, while hiring and promoting his daughter within a year. In August, Jezebel’s most recent editor-in-chief Laura Bassett resigned, writing on X (formerly Twitter) that “the company that owned us refused to treat my staff with basic human decency.” She is one of seven editor-in-chiefs to quit G/O this year alone.

For fuck’s sake.

Jezebel alum Lyz Lenz said it best on another platform that is currently being degraded by a dude-bro douche-canoe: “Jezebel was the site that helped launch my career. It was a place where women could unabashedly write about culture, politics, and everything with voice, humor, and the whole range of human emotions. The fact that it was killed by inept men is truly a metaphor.”

Yep. Open thread.

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Virginia Post-Election Round-Up

by WaterGirl|  November 9, 202311:29 am| 107 Comments

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VIRGINIA  POST ELECTION ROUND UP

It was a great night for Democrats almost everywhere, and especially in Virginia.  Democrats narrowly retained the 40-seat State Senate (21 Dem – 19 Rep).  We also flipped the 100 member House of Delegates (51 Dem – 48 Rep).  Wait?!?  51-48 doesn’t add up to 100.   More on that below.

To recap, we supported two young promising African American candidates in the Hampton Roads metro area.  Our candidates – Michael Feggans and Kim Pope Adams – challenged two first-term white Republican incumbents, Karen Greenhalgh and Kim Taylor.  These races were consistently rated as among the most competitive, but were not drawing the same level of funding as those in the wealthier Northern Virginia DC suburbs.

We turned out to be a substantial percentage of small donations (under $100) to both candidates.  Each received just over $50,000 in cash contributions of $100 or less in October.  Conservatively estimated (and angel contributions would not be included in the small donor figures), BJ raised at least 20% of that total.

RESULTS ARE IN!   Sort of…..

Michael Feggans pulled it off by over 2,000 votes – flipping the seat by 54-46 percent.  And Michael’s victory was the win that flipped the House of Delegates!

VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (WAVY) — All eyes were once again on Virginia’s largest city this Election Day as a pair of Virginia Beach Democrats were the pivotal wins to gaining control of both houses of the General Assembly.

Just past 11 p.m. Election Night, cheers erupted inside the Virginia Beach Democrats watch party as the campaign of Michael Feggans felt they had seen enough to declare victory.

Not just over their race, but over the fight for control of the House of Delegates.

With Feggans win, Democrats officially flipped it.

Video link.

Republican Kim Taylor has declared victory, but our Kim refuses to concede. 

A race that many political watchers had deemed the biggest toss-up in the entire commonwealth certainly is living up to its expectations. Republican incumbent Kim Taylor, who trailed Democratic challenger Kimberly Pope Adams for most of Election Night, surged ahead by 173 votes just before midnight, leaving the outcome of the election possibly contingent on the results of provisional ballots that have until Monday to be counted.

As of late Tuesday night, Taylor had 14,141 votes to Adams’ 13,968. Percentage-wise, that translates to 50.2% to 49.7% — a difference of 0.5%. That difference is right at the threshold for a state-financed recount.

Link

It looks like we picked the race that needed us most!   The non-partisan Virginia Public Access Project rated this race as the most competitive of all Virginia House raises.

Big thanks to all the Balloon Juice angels and to all who donated!  And to all the postcard writers!!!

Anyway, stand by.  This one isn’t over yet.

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Thursday Morning Open Thread: President Joe, the Workers’ Friend

by Anne Laurie|  November 9, 20238:17 am| 126 Comments

This post is in: Biden Administration in Action, Economics, Excellent Links, Open Threads, President Biden, Proud to Be A Democrat, Show Us on the Doll Where the Invisible Hand Touched You

Make sure to check up on those you love, both family and friends

This time of year can be difficult for many people, especially those dealing with depression or anxiety.

You never know just how much a call or a text might mean to them.

Remember, you matter. ?? pic.twitter.com/TWozz5wH5c

— Muppet History ?? (@HistoryMuppet) November 5, 2023


 

News: President Joe Biden will meet w/ United Auto Workers President Shawn Fain during a visit to Illinois on Thursday to celebrate the restart of an idled Stellantis NV manufacturing plant and tout a historic agreement between the labor union and Detroit’s Big Three automakers

— Jordan Fabian (@Jordanfabian) November 7, 2023

"Seventy-one percent of Americans now approve of labor unions.
… the highest Gallup has recorded on this measure since 1965."https://t.co/p63VrcjkUH

— Maddow Blog (@MaddowBlog) November 7, 2023

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Exactly. Media widely reported that Trump's visit to autoworkers would spell trouble for Biden's reelect (w/some outlets falsely claiming Trump was appealing to strikers!). Now that UAW won after Biden aligned himself with the strike, there's been little followup analysis. Odd. https://t.co/xFxIxveo2z

— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) November 5, 2023

How Biden navigated the perilous auto strike and lived, politically, to tell about ithttps://t.co/g4RqVynhgY

— Sam Stein (@samstein) November 6, 2023


Framed in the most ‘savvy’ Politico way possible, but still an interesting deep dive on the process — “What the UAW and Big 3 really thought of Biden’s picket line visit”:

Less than an hour before Joe Biden announced he’d join striking auto-workers on the picket line, one of his top aides broke the news to the car company executives being targeted.

Gene Sperling, the White House adviser who Biden had tapped to monitor the talks between United Auto Workers and the “Big Three” auto businesses, tried to be diplomatic. This was core to who Biden was, he explained. It didn’t mean the president was standing against the companies, he added, according to a person familiar with the discussions who was granted anonymity to reveal private talks. The CEOs weren’t happy.

A few days later, Biden became the first president in history to walk the picket line. A month after that, the UAW finalized tentative agreements with the Big Three that included historic raises for workers alongside extended benefits and other concessions.

Union officials say it was the striking workers, not the president, who were ultimately responsible for those record contracts. But several also credit Biden’s embrace — capped by his decision to stand with the strikers — for providing political cover that helped secure a deal.

That embrace was not without risk…

After UAW cut deals with Ford and Stellantis last month, White House aides were jubilant.

Within the West Wing, there was a sense that Biden’s approach had paid off and that the agreements would cement his legacy as a staunchly pro-labor president who is simultaneously committed to a green future with electric vehicles.

There was, however, one surprise left. The UAW announced that it was expanding its strike against GM — which momentarily caught the White House off guard. But then, Fain finalized a tentative agreement with the last of the Big Three companies on Monday.

Afterward, Biden spoke with him over the phone and congratulated him. The president also wished Fain a happy birthday.

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Dank Grey Dawn: Reports From Last Night’s GOP Circular Firing Squad

by Anne Laurie|  November 9, 20236:02 am| 122 Comments

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Crown chants “Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump” at the RNC debates????????then the producer talks to them like a kindergarten teacher. pic.twitter.com/l6p9H605BP

— suzy (@Suzy_1776) November 9, 2023

TL, DR: To the surprise of absolutely nobody, all five candidates campaigned urgently for the TFG VP slot. Vivek definitely put on the most ‘unhinged’ (his own word) performance, hoping to be the next GOP Goatse… but I personally doubt TFG would even let Ramaswamy in the same room with him, for fear he’d poison the Big Macs. (And for once, I gotta agree, I’d feel the same way.) Ron DeSaster is running because he’s too embarrassed to quit, at this point (and besides, Casey won’t let him). Nikki is burnishing her credentials for a Did I Not WARN Y’All? run in 2028, and if she weren’t a Republican I might even feel sorry for her. Chris Christie is running because it gives him a bigger platform to chew on TFG’s puffy ankles — I still think he could be Haley’s VP candidate in the next cycle, assuming he doesn’t succumb to an anger-related medical event. And Tim Scott is running because… well, what else has he got to do with his time, these days?

Deeper analysis is valuable, but here’s all the analysis that’s essential: about 30% of Americans are assholes, & most of them are Republican primary voters. And assholes love Trump.

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) November 9, 2023

The Biden-Harris campaign is putting up 1,000 “Dark Brandon” signs surrounding the venue for tonight’s GOP debate in Miami. https://t.co/NuX7Or7Ca3 pic.twitter.com/kmKTmfUnNn

— Sarah Dean (@sarahmdean95) November 8, 2023

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Ahead of tonight's debate in Miami, @maryaliceparks says GOP presidential hopeful Vivek Ramaswamy told her that his strategy is to "be unhinged." pic.twitter.com/OHtf6Eop9F

— ABC News Live (@ABCNewsLive) November 8, 2023

You know that old Chappelle joke about being afraid of the white dude who hangs out with brothers because you don’t know what he had to do to earn their respect? That’s basically this.

He’ll do anything, up to and including threatening to kill brown people, to prove he belongs https://t.co/o0ycWVcEmH

— Joel D. Anderson ?? (@byjoelanderson) November 9, 2023

Ramaswamy calls parts of occupied Ukraine culturally Russian, says Zelensky is "a comedian in cargo shorts."

Haley replies, "Putin and Xi are salivating at the thought that someone like that could become president."

— Philip Melanchthon Wegmann (@PhilipWegmann) November 9, 2023

I’m increasingly convinced that Ramaswami is a Ukrainian secret agent performing a parody of how stupid and cruel pro-Putin MAGA propagandists sound.

— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) November 9, 2023

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Too little discussion of Ramaswamy’s contempt for Haley bc her family is Sikh & his family is Brahmin

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) November 9, 2023

Listen to her say that Trump was the right president at the right time. This is why, despite her obvious talents, I could never vote for Nikki Haley.

They are simply incapable of stating the plain truth about Trump. I give Christie credit. He’s the only one. https://t.co/pZIOqv7yDP

— Atticus Finch (of Georgia) 🇺🇸🇺🇦🇮🇱 (@Atticus59914029) November 9, 2023

Nikki Haley should be elected to a special federal office whose sole duty involves regularly putting Vivek in his place.

— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec) November 9, 2023

McCaskill: I listened really carefully to what Nikki Haley actually said about abortion. She succeeded in talking for about 3 or 4 minutes and said absolutely nothing pic.twitter.com/LuxMRW7WTz

— Biden-Harris HQ (@BidenHQ) November 9, 2023

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On *what forking planet* did DeSantis "sharpen his case against Trump"? He, and everyone else, acted as if Trump had died on the way to his home planet. https://t.co/KBlhWQDOhx

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) November 9, 2023

Ron: I was the great white savior of the non-aborted immigrant (whom I didn’t execute at the border).

— Karen Leavitt ?? ???? ???? (@kleavitt) November 9, 2023

Yeah, that was weird. He was doing well enough with that closing and then a chip in his head said SMILE and the gears jammed up https://t.co/VKdfKtjUXg

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) November 9, 2023

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'I'll say this about Donald Trump: Anybody who's going to be spending the next year and half of their life focusing on keeping themselves out of jail and courtrooms cannot lead this party or this country," Chris Christie says. pic.twitter.com/WwHWO0euFR

— NBC News (@NBCNews) November 9, 2023

He also gave a small-government answer on abortion that was consistently conservative but that is totally out of step with the Trumpist GOP, which thinks capturing the government and using it force people to do stuff is "conservative" https://t.co/vTae6Uu1Ol

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) November 9, 2023

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Sen. Tim Scott: "The Laffer curve still works!"

— Philip Melanchthon Wegmann (@PhilipWegmann) November 9, 2023

Sen. Tim Scott says he'd advice President Biden, "if you want to stop thee 40+ attacks on our military personnel in the Middle East, you have to strike in Iran."

— Philip Melanchthon Wegmann (@PhilipWegmann) November 9, 2023

Tim Scott is running to be the next president of a bible college somewhere

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) November 9, 2023

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Well, that is probably the only true statement coming off that stage tonight….#GOPDebate pic.twitter.com/smGSesaaIA

— Crabby Patty (@crabbybeyond) November 9, 2023


 
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Meanwhile: Increasingly addled loser plays his greatest hits for the hardcore 27%…

Trump flexes dominance with counter-programming to Republican debate. The campaign is aiming to burnish the perception of Trump’s inevitability and pressure GOP officials to stop propping up other candidates, by @jdawsey1 @iarnsdorf @marianne_levine https://t.co/H3ooNPTRRc

— Dan Eggen (@DanEggenWPost) November 9, 2023

New hot piece of merchandise at a Trump rally seems to be a t-shirt with his mugshot on it. Hundreds and hundreds wearing them today before his event outside Miami. Vendors selling them for blocks down the highway.

— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) November 8, 2023

"Barack Hussein Obama. Has anyone heard of him? Barack Hussein," Trump says, then credits "the great" Rush Limbaugh for enunciating Hussein…

— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) November 9, 2023

"Hannibal Lecter, he was a nice fellow, but that's what is coming into our country right now," Trump says to a seemingly confused crowd outside Miami.

— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) November 9, 2023

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