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Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

We will not go quietly into the night; we will not vanish without a fight.

You know it’s bad when the Project 2025 people have to create training videos on “How To Be Normal”.

Let me eat cake. The rest of you could stand to lose some weight, frankly.

The poor and middle-class pay taxes, the rich pay accountants, the wealthy pay politicians.

Motto for the House: Flip 5 and lose none.

Fear or fury? The choice is ours.

“Alexa, change the president.”

They think we are photo bombing their nice little lives.

Fight them, without becoming them!

President Musk and Trump are both poorly raised, coddled 8 year old boys.

It’s pointless to bring up problems that can only be solved with a time machine.

If senate republicans had any shame, they’d die of it.

Too little, too late, ftfnyt. fuck all the way off.

I am pretty sure these ‘journalists’ were not always such a bootlicking sycophants.

You can’t attract Republican voters. You can only out organize them.

Reality always lies in wait for … Democrats.

And now I have baud making fun of me. this day can’t get worse.

They are not red states to be hated; they are voter suppression states to be fixed.

Shut up, hissy kitty!

They were going to turn on one another at some point. It was inevitable.

Of course you can have champagne before noon. That’s why orange juice was invented.

Anyone who bans teaching American history has no right to shape America’s future.

You are so fucked. Still, I wish you the best of luck.

Reality always gets a vote in the end.

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2024 Pets of Balloon Juice Calendars

by WaterGirl|  November 6, 202311:10 am| 49 Comments

This post is in: Balloon Juice, Open Threads, Pet Calendar

It’s pet calendar time again!

Cafe Press seems to have resolved their paper issues, and they once again have the option to create your own calendars.  Yay!

Final Preview of 2022 Pets of Balloon Juice: Calendar B! 1

Here’s what beth and I are thinking re: the 2024 Pets of Balloon Juice Calendars.

The designs for the two pet calendars for 2023 were completely finished, except for the import into Cafe Press, where things came to an abrupt halt because of supply chain issues.  With just and hour or so of work – changing the covers so they say 2024 instead of 2023, and importing the files into Cafe Press – we can WILL have Calendar A & Calendar B available with the photos from last year.

Reminder: the month of January in both calendars (A & B) from “last” year is a tribute to Lily and all of John’s pets.

BJ Pet Calendar 2023 – A  (soon to be 2024)

BJ Pet Calendar 2023 – B  (soon to be 2024)

IF THERE IS INTEREST, we will also open up submissions for new photos for another calendar for 2024, with just photos that arrive this year.

So here’s what we need to know from you.

  • Is there interest in purchasing 2024 calendars that were designed with last year’s pet pics?  Clearly YES, we will do this.
  • Is there also interest in purchasing a new 2024 calendar with pics you send in now?
  • Is anyone else interested in postcards of their pets?  We can make those and add them to the BJ store in Cafe Press.

Please chime in and let us know, because time is short – we want to have the calendars available for purchase by Dec 1.

Oh, and if you want to submit pics, please start getting them ready now – I’ll be setting up the photo upload site in a day or so.  Remember, all photos submitted go into the calendar, but high resolution is the key to being able to have a bigger photo that is more visible in the calendar.

Open thread.

Update: we can also make postcards from your pet pics and add them to our store on Cafe Press.  If you are interested in that, chime in below!

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Monday Morning Open Thread: Keeping Up the Good Fight(s)

by Anne Laurie|  November 6, 20238:20 am| 169 Comments

This post is in: Elections 2024, Israel, Local Races, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

A Norway spruce from West Virginia is headed to the US Capitol to be this year's Christmas tree https://t.co/KkwCOPYlEh

— The Associated Press (@AP) November 4, 2023

In her first interview on the Fulton County indictments, Stacey Abrams says, “We have the right to question systems…What we do not have the right to do is manufacture information and manufacture crises in order to achieve political ends.” pic.twitter.com/iSwiWOTlVy

— IT’S TIME FOR JUSTICE (@LiddleSavages) November 3, 2023

Great slogan, IMO:

Anyway, the ONLY poll that matters today is the polling booth.
TODAY is the LAST DAY to vote 🗳 EARLY in OHIO for this Tuesday's election.
Vote YES on Issue 1 to protect reproductive rights.
Find your polling place here:https://t.co/pYlXsadhEY pic.twitter.com/4oEKIqUmmu

— KAMALA NATION (@KamalaNation) November 5, 2023

TUESDAY, 11/7 – Virginia voters can defend reproductive freedoms and STOP Extreme Republicans from punishing women and their doctors.

Make calls to Get Out The Vote for VA Democrats!https://t.co/csjyQ5KOR5 pic.twitter.com/LNaECHbecd

— Nancy Pelosi (@TeamPelosi) November 5, 2023

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Schedule this week for @VP:
Tues: Joe Madison interview at SiriusXM radio
Wed: Diwali celebration at VP official residence
Thurs: Travel to Boston for apprentice event
Saturday: Join POTUS for Veterans Day observance at Arlington National.

— KAMALA NATION (@KamalaNation) November 6, 2023

Trump's lead in the NYT poll is less than the actuarial odds Biden will die of old age before the election and we can nominate someone else, so on balance I'd say we're winning.

— Pinboard (@Pinboard) November 5, 2023

Hey, New York Times:
Remember this? From your own program?
You can take that ridiculous poll next to your stacks of binder files of people who unsubcribe to your paper. https://t.co/aOWbm3LOqC

— KAMALA NATION (@KamalaNation) November 5, 2023

Credit where due:

#BREAKING: Bernie Sanders rejects calls for a ceasefire to benefit Hamas.

"I don't know how you can have a permanent cease fire with an organization like Hamas, which is dedicated to turmoil and chaos and destroying the state of Israel.

HAMAS HAS GOT TO GO” pic.twitter.com/IbdBMWprDO

— Israel War Room (@IsraelWarRoom) November 5, 2023

Sanders on Tlaib's criticisms of Biden: "You can disagree with Joe Biden, but on his worst day he'll be a hundred times better than Trump and right-wing Republicans." pic.twitter.com/iIbKwSjkMH

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) November 5, 2023

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Cold Grey Dawn Open Thread: Concerning ‘Activist’ Spite Voters

by Anne Laurie|  November 6, 20233:30 am| 96 Comments

This post is in: Elections 2024, Excellent Links, Foreign Affairs, Israel

This is a lose- lose political gambit and I can’t help saying something on the inherent idiocy of the strategy

Goodbye mentions but as a long time political operative can I point out the scenarios? https://t.co/OY04xCbZv6

— Democrat, Environmentalist, & the establishment (@BlueSteelDC) October 31, 2023

Scenario 1: President Biden loses as they wanted

They now aided the win of the political forces who has open contempt for even their existence in this country and they not likely to benefit. Hell there was direct threat to harm as a campaign promise pic.twitter.com/XncSwOLQTj

— Democrat, Environmentalist, & the establishment (@BlueSteelDC) October 31, 2023

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How I would have done it –

have open and regular communications with senior officials at the White House that President Biden has two communities that need an open demonstration of support

— Democrat, Environmentalist, & the establishment (@BlueSteelDC) October 31, 2023

I am not trying to undercut the serious nature of the concerns

But currently the political voice just sounds petulant and stupid and that’s over shadowing the gravitas of these conversations

— Democrat, Environmentalist, & the establishment (@BlueSteelDC) October 31, 2023

I will always be with you- as your community was with mine.

I wish this would be a moment we can all stand together but for now – not so much

To another point – its very unlikely something happens to your community and we’re not next

— Democrat, Environmentalist, & the establishment (@BlueSteelDC) October 31, 2023

Great thread. Unfortunately a lot of people we’re seeing here on Twitter saying they will never vote for Biden said that in 2020. Arab-American & Muslim “leaders” on Twitter are more Repub or much more anti-Dem party “leftist” than most of the communities they claim to represent https://t.co/DDyQ9JZOCM

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) October 31, 2023

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War for Ukraine Day 620: The Cost

by Adam L Silverman|  November 5, 20238:48 pm| 15 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

Graphic by NEIVANMADE of a Russian bomb with a "Z" symbol on it crashing through the roof of the Ukrainian Postal Service delivery hub. "Everyone Is a Target" and "Stop Russia" are written in the space between the destroyed roof and the fins of the bomb.

(Image by NEIVANMADE)

The cost:

Last year russian rocket hit apartment block killing Valeriia and her 3 months old daughter. Shortly after the tragedy, her husband Yuri joined the army. This week russians killed him as well. pic.twitter.com/bRF3I7OdEx

— Kateryna_Kruk (@Kateryna_Kruk) November 5, 2023

Yuriy Glodan killed on the front lines. His wife Valeria, three-month-old daughter Kira, and mother-in-law were killed in Russian missile strike on residential complex in Odesa last year. Confectioner before the war, he decided to join AFU after the devastating tragedy pic.twitter.com/maXaxKx0u5

— Maria Avdeeva (@maria_avdv) November 5, 2023

Ukrainska Pravda has the details: (machine translation)

Yuri Glodan died in the war, whose family was killed in April 2022 Russian missilesand, which destroyed the residential complex “Tiras” in Odessa.

After the loss of the family, Yuri decided to join the ranks of the Armed Forces.

On November 5, his colleague Alexander Yakovenko announced that Yuri died at the front.

Alexander is a co-owner of a confectionery in Odessa, where Glodan previously worked.

Recalling the tragic day when Yuri lost his family, Alexander says that Easter in 2022 was the first weekend of the confectionery. The man spent time with his family, went to the store, and when he returned – “his world was destroyed”. 

Then the Russian rocket was injected into the house where the Yuri family lived. The tragedy took a life 3-month-old daughter Kira, her mother Valeria and grandmother Ludmila.

“He committed as a worthy man of the Ukrainian nation – went to the Armed Forces.  First “Azov”, then the 3rd assault. Today (November 5 – ed.) We learned that he died defending his nation. Light memory, a man with a big heart”, – written by Alexander Yakovenko.

In April 2022, the man admitted that the service is not easy, because professionalism requires time and training.

“Time to draw, the enemy is not waiting. The fact is that here is a war, we do not paint grass under the line. Wrong — you’re already 300 or 200. It hurts a lot to lose your fellows, and it’s a shame to understand that in his place could be you, or you, in fact, can be next”, – told then the man of “Public”. 

Yuri Glodan died in battle. His body was recognized by the cross. 

Here is President Zelenskyy’s address from earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

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Regarding Russian strike on soldiers of 128th Separate Mountain Infantry Brigade: The main thing is to establish the truth about what happened and prevent such incidents from happening again – address by the President of Ukraine

5 November 2023 – 18:18

Dear Ukrainians,

First and foremost, regarding the Russian strike on the soldiers of the 128th Separate Mountain Infantry Brigade occurred in Zaporizhzhia region.

My condolences to all the families and loved ones of the fallen soldiers! It is a tragedy that could have been avoided. Defense Minister Umerov has reported to me on the measures taken to clarify all the circumstances of what happened, who was specifically involved, and what orders were given.

Criminal proceedings have been initiated in response to this tragedy. The relevant investigation is ongoing.

The main thing is to establish the complete truth about what happened and prevent such incidents from happening again. Every soldier in the combat zone – in the enemy’s line of fire and aerial reconnaissance – knows how to behave in the open, how to ensure safety.

Now, the investigation must provide honest answers to the families of the fallen soldiers and the society about how this tragedy occurred and whether any improper orders were issued.

Secondly, what I would like to say today. When we go through weeks like this, filled with pain and difficult discussions, it is important for people to understand that what weighs on their hearts is seen, and the necessary changes will be made.

This applies to many things, from negligence that can occur to the Soviet legacy and the terrible bureaucracy that prevents Ukraine and many in our defense forces from realizing their potential correctly and effectively.

We must protect Ukraine. And we will protect it – I have no doubt about that. Believing in Ukraine is knowing that Ukraine and Ukrainians can preserve their independence, will preserve it and reclaim their own.

But, just like after February 24th, this can be done together – and only together, in unity, caring for the state, for those next to you, for Ukrainians, no matter where they are. Preserving the unity of the people is the most important. And I am grateful to all those who make efforts for this.

And one more thing. Avdiyivka. Mariyinka. Lyman. Bakhmut. Kupiansk. Melitopol direction. Kherson region. The artillerymen of the 55th Zaporizhzhia Sich brigade. The 95th Separate Airborne Assault Brigade. The 68th Separate Hunting Brigade. The 79th Separate Airborne Assault Brigade. The 33rd and 31st separate mechanized brigades. Our powerful 54th Separate Mechanized Brigade. The 57th Separate Motorized Infantry Brigade. The 82nd Separate Airborne Assault Brigade. I thank all of you, soldiers, who fight for Ukraine, who believe in Ukraine! Thank you to all the commanders who truly care for the people! And thank you to all who work for Ukraine and help Ukraine in the world!

Every week should make Ukraine stronger. It is essential. And it is a shared task for everyone in the state. All of us.

Glory to Ukraine!

And it’s not just Putin pic.twitter.com/PtRFpJQJMF

— Maria Avdeeva (@maria_avdv) November 5, 2023

Well that pretty much says it all.

Avdiivka:

Авдіївка, Донеччина 05.11.2023 pic.twitter.com/K5YzpBZhCN

— Мисливець за зорями (@small10space) November 5, 2023

 

Russian occupied Sedove, Zaporizhzhia Oblast:

Meanwhile in Russian-occupied Sedove pic.twitter.com/npIScySRp5

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) November 5, 2023

A Russian ammunition dump allegedly in Russian-occupied Sjedove between Mariupol and the Russian border is very much on fire.

Source: https://t.co/x5wuRF2OVD#Ukraine #Donetsk #Mariupol pic.twitter.com/1xxGtkVCXE

— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar) November 5, 2023

Here’s some more analysis and discussion regarding the assertions that Ukraine’s counteroffensive has stalled:

The following assertions can all be true:
– Ukrainian counteroffensive failed to achieve its original goals
– The war is not a stalemate (Russia is gearing up for another offensive as we speak)
– Negotiations cannot resolve this conflict right now just as they haven’t since 2014

— Dmitri Alperovitch (@DAlperovitch) November 5, 2023

From Mykola Bielieskov of Ukraine’s National Institute for Strategic Studies. From the Skyview app (think the Thread Reader App, but for Bluesky):

Unfortunately both people inside&outside of UA mostly concentrate on specific personalities analysing war dynamics instead of giving a thought to objective conditions. By this people miss really important things and how they shape limits of possible. Thread 🧵

The major problem for UA mil strategy that in 2023 campaign (unlike in 2022 campaign) political goals, military capabilities and combat performance have not been in balance. Moreover there was a tension between political&military dimension. Let’s see this contrast in detail.

In 2022 UA campaign there was kind of perfect match between political goals, mil capabilities&combat performance. Politically strat defense with counterattacks was just fine. And for this UA had proper capabilities&combat performance. Front dynamics in 2022 reflected this match.

In 2023 campaign politically UA had to do classic offensive operation to liberate its people&territories. Staying just defensive was no more enough. Cause if it’s only defensive mode it means pressure on UA to freeze frontline with first hints on freezing out of US in Nov 2022.

But militarily offensive in this war is a challenge with “offensive-defensive balance” favouring defense. It’s much easier to detect&strike opponent concentration of forces than creating such concentration and applying it which is required for successful offensive action.

This tension between political&military dimension is one of themes in gen Zaluzhniy piece for The Economist. UA Commander in Chief admitted that politically UA needs to advance. But militarily it’s a challenge with number&sophistication of technology UA Forces currently possess.

There is another problem – trap of West expectations UA got into. As partners finally decided in Jan 2023 to establish offensive specific grouping of forces&provided weaponry RU created defense in depth+obstacles which only reinforced defense-offensive balance in defence favour.

So West basically expected things UA Defense Forces would find it hard to deliver with all the negative consequences for sustaining long term military aid for UA.

That’s why in June 2023 UA faced a kind of strat zugzwang. As it happened doing a classic offensive people expected out of UA proved to be a challenge. At the same time it’s hard to imagine that UA would dare to say “We are not going to do offensive as we deem it too risky”.

That’s things we need to accept and in 2024 campaign plan bring into balance political&military considerations while looking technological&tactical solutions which finally change offensive-defensive balance back in offensive favour as gen Zaluzhniy suggested.

Here’s RUSI associate fellow Samuel Ramani’s take. First tweet from the thread, the rest from the Thread Reader App:

Ukraine's counter-offensive has been panned as a failure

The truth is more complex

Some thoughts on the successes and failures of Ukraine's counter-offensive /1

— Samuel Ramani (@SamRamani2) November 5, 2023

SUCCESS: Preventing Russian Gains

Ukraine has carried out offensive operations in the south and east, while preventing notable Russian gains

Fortifications and mines caused Russia to lose 200 armoured vehicles and 1000s of personnel in Avdiivka alone over 3 weeks 

SUCCESS: Degrading Russia’s Black Sea Fleet

Ukrainian strikes on the Black Sea Fleet HQ, creation of an alternative grain corridor and creation of insecurity around Russian ships in Sevastopol and Crimea is a big success

It reduces sea-borne Kalibr strikes on Ukrainian cities 

SUCCESS: Upgraded Air Defences

Ukraine has secured NATO-class systems like IRIS-Ts and Patriots to blunt Russia’s Shahed drone barrages in Kyiv

There is more work to be done on Black Sea port cities but mass electrical line barrages like last winter haven’t yet happened 

SUCCESS: Upgrading Air Power and Long-Range missiles

ATACMS, Storm Shadows and SCALPS arrived, while F-16s are on their way

Ukraine is also stepping up domestic production, which can strike deeper into Russian territory proper 

FAILURE: Territorial Gains

The obvious one: Ukraine wanted Melitopol, so it could disrupt Russian supply chains, and make real progress in Zaporizhzhia, Kherson and outside Bakhmut

It downsized its goal to Tokmak, which has been partially successful, but battle lines are frozen 

FAILURE: The Drone War

In terms of production, Ukraine is suffering in the drone war. Bayraktars are not the game-changers they once were, Russia is mass producing Geran-2s as Iranian Shaheds

There is still hope for the Ukraine-made Shark drone and for a winter drone barrage 

FAILURE: Stopping Russia’s Production Lines

Sanctions have not stopped semiconductors from entering Russia and precision missiles are built

North Korea’s supply of 1 million artillery shells plus accelerated domestic production shows Russia is in this war for the long haul 

FAILURE: Securing Long-Term Shell and Ammunition Supplies

Ukraine has depleted the influx of shells and ammunition it received and it is unclear how fast it will be replaced

Sluggish EU production is to blame but recent Dutch and German deals provide hope 

MIXED: GPS Jamming

Russia’s GPS jamming restricted the efficacy of HIMARS by May 2023 and fuelled fears that longer-range missiles could be restricted

But Ukraine used a guided bomb to destroy a GPS jammer recently, which shows a technological gain 

MIXED: Capitalizing on Russia’s Divisions

While Prigozhin and Shoigu clashes might have thwarted Russian gains in Donetsk, the Wagner mutiny did not destroy cohesion

With Tantsyura/Reznikov ousted, Syrski under attack and election controversies, Ukraine has divisions of its own 

MIXED: Rallying Non-Western Support

Ukraine’s Global Peace summit idea and Jeddah talks have gained some traction, as have African criticisms of Russia’s grain deal suspension

But China’s no show in Malta and stagnant UNGA voting patterns reveal that Ukraine has a lot to do 

So Ukraine’s counter-offensive did not reach lofty expectations, as Russia’s fortifications were stronger and sophisticated technology was delayed

But it was not a complete failure by any means and Ukraine still has many cards to play heading into 2024 /END

And a response, and contrary take, to Ramani by a member of the Black Bird Group (that’s a Finnish OSINT outfit):

The opinions of some of the Western commentators regarding the counteroffensive bear a striking similarity to the Russian narratives that we've seen after every major failure.

Getting on that cope train is not a great look when we've been laughing at Vatniks for 1,5 years. https://t.co/bPAduq03nT

— John Helin (@J_JHelin) November 5, 2023

Ramani also says that the goal of capturing Tokmak, has been partially successful.

I wouldn't say that being stuck 20km from Tokmak is a partial success, especially when Tarnavskyi said that Tokmak is only the minimum objective.

— John Helin (@J_JHelin) November 5, 2023

I might also say that while getting Storm Shadows and ATACMS is good for Ukraine, it's weird to count it as a success as it was somewhat out of Ukrainian hands.

Also, there has been a clear problem of coordination in the use of these assets and Ukraine has limited stocks them.

— John Helin (@J_JHelin) November 5, 2023

We really need to have more discussion and analysis on how and why the counteroffensive failed, instead of trying to paint a failure into a partial success or an ongoing operation.

That's the only way forward in to learning and understanding what Ukraine needs in the future.

— John Helin (@J_JHelin) November 5, 2023

Zalushnyi pretty much confirmed culmination and failure in the interview with The Economist.

Almost all the forces earmarked for the offensive have been used to try and gain a breakthrough and now reserves and troops have been moved to reinforce Avdiivka.

— John Helin (@J_JHelin) November 5, 2023

But they did not concentrate force.

One of the great mistakes for Ukraine here was the lack of concentration of force. Instead, they opted to spread out their troops, and especially artillery resources, to Bakhmut, Velyka Novosilka, and Robotyne, at the very least.

— John Helin (@J_JHelin) November 5, 2023

I certainly would've criticised it, but it might've been politically expedient in terms of selling the whole "Bakhmut trap" narrative and justifying the losses.

Now Ukraine has the Bakhmut situation to unwrap in terms of critical analysis as well as the southern offensive.

— John Helin (@J_JHelin) November 5, 2023

Meanwhile, Ukraine sees an aurora tonight.
It’s a very rare thing in our parts.
Let this be a sign of good hope for us all. pic.twitter.com/eixLJeRLs7

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) November 5, 2023

Serhij Rubinkovych, a Ukrainian poet and service member, and his cat Reprimand. pic.twitter.com/pfUwAKN69s

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) November 5, 2023

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Medium Cool – Song Lyrics!

by WaterGirl|  November 5, 20237:00 pm| 176 Comments

This post is in: Medium Cool, Music, Open Threads, Popular Culture, Culture as a Hedge Against This Soul-Sucking Political Miasma We're Living In

Medium Cool is a weekly series related to popular culture, mostly film, TV, and books, with some music and games thrown in.  We hope it’s a welcome break from the anger, hate, and idiocy we see almost daily from the other side in the political sphere.

Arguments welcomed, opinions respected, fools un-suffered.  We’re here every Sunday at 7 pm.

Medium Cool – Song Lyrics!

Let’s talk song lyrics today!

Lyrics that speak to you.  Lyrics that are poetry.  Lyrics you love.  Lyrics that are offensive!  Lyrics that fit the music perfectly.  Lyrics that do the opposite.  Lyrics that capture a time in your life.

Don’t just tells us about them, paste the lyrics in the comments if you can.  (But not if that’s a pain on mobile devices.)

It’s all things lyrics today, have fun!

Update:

Pro tip: If you want your lyrics to look like this:

How do I love thee?
Let me count the ways

and not this

How do I love thee?

Let me count the ways

Just hold the shift key down when you press return OR if you are pasting it in from elsewhere click the TEXT tab before you pasted it in.

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Sunday Evening Open Thread: RFK Jr Goes Mask-Off

by Anne Laurie|  November 5, 20236:27 pm| 85 Comments

This post is in: 2024 Primaries, Grifters Gonna Grift, Healthcare, Information Warfare, Open Threads

Open Thread:  RFK Jr Goes Mask-Off

Robert F. Kennedy Jr's anti-vaccine org banned me from its conference.

In a keynote speech, he committed to the movement, vowed "a break" from infectious disease research, and threatened scientific journals.

"I feel like I’ve come home" he said. https://t.co/CA91VPWr4d

— Brandy Zadrozny (@BrandyZadrozny) November 4, 2023

Steve Bannon has been having, by his debased standards, a very good run of late… and the conspiracy-fueled right-wing embrace of RFK Jr. is another ‘win’ for right-wing chaos agents.

NBC’s Brandy Zadrozny reports as “RFK Jr. comes ‘home’ to his anti-vaccine group, commits to ‘a break’ for U.S. infectious disease research”:

At an anti-vaccine conference in Georgia on Friday, presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. confirmed his commitment to the cause and spoke to his base about how he, as president, would serve the movement he built.

“I feel like I’ve come home today,” he said to a standing ovation, crediting the assembled audience with his candidacy.

He then laid out his vision for a Kennedy presidency, which would include telling the National Institutes of Health to take “a break” from studying infectious diseases, like Covid-19 and measles, and pivoting the agency to the study of chronic diseases, like diabetes and obesity. Kennedy has suggested without evidence that researchers and pharmaceutical companies are driven by profit to neglect such chronic conditions and invest in ineffective and even harmful treatments; he includes vaccines among them.

“I’m gonna say to NIH scientists, God bless you all,” Kennedy said. “Thank you for public service. We’re going to give infectious disease a break for about eight years.”

Kennedy’s remarks came at the end of the first day of a conference for the country’s largest anti-vaccine organization, Children’s Health Defense. Kennedy signed on with Children’s Health Defense in 2015 and served as its chairman and chief litigation counsel until April, when he announced he would go on leave to run for president…

Kennedy has mostly shied away from anti-vaccine advocacy on the campaign trail and has said, despite years of public statements to the contrary, that he is not opposed to vaccines. This spring, he told NBC News vaccines were “not an issue that I’m leading with.”…

In addition to his proposed moves at NIH, Kennedy said that as president, he’d appoint a like-minded attorney general, “maybe Aaron Siri,” he said. Siri is a lawyer who has done millions of dollars of work for leading anti-vaccination groups, including a recent case that opened up religious exemptions for childhood vaccines in Mississippi. The crowd erupted in applause.

He said he would use the power of that attorney general to threaten editors of medical journals and force them to publish studies that had been retracted (he often cites the retracted studies saying ivermectin, a parasite drug, is an effective treatment for Covid). “We’re gonna say we’re fixing to file some racketeering lawsuits if you don’t start telling the truth in your journals.”…

RatF*cker Jr, friend to all the best modern plagues, including ‘religious’ grifters and lawyers.

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Ladies Auxiliary (Open Thread)

by Betty Cracker|  November 5, 20234:07 pm| 74 Comments

This post is in: 2024 Primaries, Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity

Lauren Boebert, berserk MAGA political stuntwoman, is discovering her party’s boundaries in the wake of VapeGropeGate. The rules are simple enough even for a person of her limited intelligence to understand.

It goes like this: Trump can grab coochies, shag a porn actress behind his wife’s back, spy on half-dressed underage beauty pageant contestants, etc. But elected MAGAs of the female persuasion better confine their antics to activities like making violent threats, cyberstalking mass shooting survivors or heckling bereaved parents in front of TV cameras — even consensual public groping isn’t allowed.

According to this NYT article (gift link), a chastened Boebert is making the rounds in her district, apologizing for the “Beetlejuice” incident and looking for “a lot of mercy and a lot of grace” in hopes of holding onto a job for which she is wildly unqualified and performs poorly. Recall that she almost got bounced from the best job she’ll ever have in 2022, when she hung onto the seat by fewer than 600 votes.

The Times reports that some members of the GOP establishment in Colorado are ready to cut their losses and have endorsed a primary opponent, Jeff Hurd, who holds similar views on issues like guns but is less overtly feral. Hurd’s backers include brewery bigwig Pete Coors.

But I don’t think Hurd is going anywhere, despite releasing photos of himself sitting at the head of the table at a wholesome family dinner, a not-so-subtle contrast with public strumpet Boebert. Here’s why:

Asked if he had voted for Mr. Trump in past elections, Mr. Hurd declined to answer, but then described a vision of the Republican Party where “we believe in, you know, the rule of law, the peaceful transfer of power in elections.”

Bzzzzzzzzt! Wrong answer for a 2024 Republican primary candidate. I’m going to go out on a limb and predict a Boebert primary win because worshipping the Orange Calf seems more important to the base than punishing moral turpitude in the MAGA ladies auxiliary.

“Lauren’s made it harder for herself,” said Kathy Elmont, the secretary of the Ouray County Republican Party, who has supported Ms. Boebert since her first campaign. “But I look at it as a Christian.” She recalled the passage in the Gospel of John in which Jesus admonishes a crowd against stoning an adulterous woman: “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.”

But Mrs. Elmont pointed out that wasn’t the last of the story. “He ended with, ‘And sin no more,’” she said.

Elmont means no more sexy-time scandals; threatening violence, stalking traumatized shooting survivors, heckling bereaved parents, etc., is okay. Hopefully Boebert’s Democratic opponent can pick her off.

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Remember when I filled y’all in on Trump’s plans to crush DeSantis at this weekend’s Florida Freedom Summit? If hat sales tell the tale, it’s mission accomplished for Hair Furor. From The Tampa Bay Times:

KISSIMMEE — The hats weren’t selling. They were off-white and polyester and embroidered with three words: DeSantis for President.

So LeeAnn Crotty decided she’d reduce the price to $5.

“We’re trying to offload them,” she said from behind her merchandise booth.

At the other end of the booth — set up in the air-conditioned hall of the Gaylord Palms Resort & Convention Center — other hats displayed messages including “TRUMP 2024″ and “GOD GUNS AND TRUMP.”

Those hats were selling, Crotty said. They were priced for $15. Some, the ones with rhinestones, were fetching $20.

Hilarious. DeSantis had a shitty afternoon speaking slot at the event, sandwiched between two mortal political enemies, his gubernatorial predecessor Rick Scott and the former statehouse toady Randy Fine, who recently unendorsed DeSantis and endorsed Trump.

When it was time for Bootsie to shuffle forth on tippy-toes and recite lies like “We are the freest state in all of these United States” in a droning, adenoidal voice, he was introduced by Tacky O, who lied that DeSantis is “America’s governor.” I love watching those two circle the drain and look forward to the big flush.

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